Sen. Webb Sides With Right-Wing Claims On Truth Commission And Gitmo
Sen. Webb Sides With Right-Wing Claims On Truth Commission And Gitmo
When President Obama announced on his second day in office that he would close the Guantanamo Bay prison within a year, Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) said on MSNBC that Obama had “given a reasonable timeline here.” He praised Obama for “helping us reassert ourselves around the world as a moral beacon, in terms of how people are being handled.”
However, on ABC’s “This Week” today, Webb reversed course and appeared to condemn the Obama administration for “creating artificial timelines” to close Guantanamo, where he said detainees should stay. He also objected to a truth commission on torture. On the most important national security issues, Webb sided with the right wing:
ON TRUTH COMMISSION
STEPHANOPOULOS: That’s the irony here , Senator Webb, as Speaker Gingrich says, investigate. He wants a separate House investigation. Speaker Pelosi says, fine, let’s have a truth commission, the one that Senator Kyl doesn’t want. Where do you stand on this?
WEBB: I just don’t think it’s that big a deal. [...]
STEPHANOPOULOS: So, no truth commission?
WEBB: I think this will resolve itself without something like that.
ON RELEASING NON-DANGEROUS UIGHURS
STEPHANOPOULOS: I know there are about 17, I believe, Chinese Uighurs, they are called, who have been ordered released by a federal court, they’ve determined not to be a threat to the United States. And the administration has been working on plans to bring them to Virginia. Can you accept them in your state?
WEBB: Well, let me back up for a minute. The answer is no. No.
ON CLOSING GUANTANAMO
WEBB: We spend hundreds of millions of dollars building an appropriate facility with all security precautions in Guantanamo to try these cases. … I do not believe they should be tried in the United States. … We should, at the right time, close Guantanamo. But I don’t think that it should be closed, and in terms of transferring people here.
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Webb said repeatedly that the Guantanamo detainees “deserve due process.” But at the same time, he refused to accept a court’s ruling that the Chinese Uighurs are not terrorists, pose no threat, and should be released.
And Webb’s opposition to allowing detainees their due process rights in Virginia courts is not shared by everyone: Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) recently wrote about the “courage and patriotism” of Virginians who supported courts in their state in trying and convicting Zacarias Moussaoui, John Walker Lindh, and Beltway sniper John Allen Muhammad:
[S]hould President Obama determine that Alexandria needs to play a reasonably limited role in a nationwide effort to bring justice to the Guantanamo detainees and close this unfortunate chapter of American history, I am confident that Alexandrians will stand strong as they always have: gritting their teeth, stiffening their spines and carrying the load required so that the American values of justice and the rule of law are not overridden but, rather, respected and honored, as is our heritage as a great nation.
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I think he was saying that the Pelosi issue is not a big deal.
He’s right.
They are making it a big deal.
When all it does is expose the Bush Admin.
You know those Republicans are suicidal when they want to investigate someone for what they knew about Bush’s crimes.
It’s unbelievable.
May 17th, 2009 at 11:46 amI have never been a Jim Webb fan the way a lot of people are. Other than his stand on veterans issues, he has proved to be pretty close to a Blue Dog in his beliefs and his votes.
May 17th, 2009 at 11:53 ami was watching this baffling performance… who got to him?
May 17th, 2009 at 12:01 pmwhat ever happened to HIS spine?
… he had no real position on ANYthing, it seemed…
He is a former Republican. Put him on ignore. Plus his “21st. Century GI Bill is all smoke and mirrors. It does absolutely nothing for our current soldiers. It doesn’t even go into effect until next year and there is nothing in it that is retroactive. He is a fraud.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:02 pmWebb is way off base on this, but before we get too far along lets get our own house in order: apparently Center for American Progress’ Erica Williams doesn’t think this is a big deal either.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/?source=rss
May 17th, 2009 at 12:07 pmANOTHER CONSERVADEM intentionally making the wrong decisions.
when are you going to wake up and realize that Obama and most of the idiots that surround him and Bush lites
May 17th, 2009 at 12:15 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
When president Bush said that they water boarded ONLY three high level detainees, did Pelosi protest then and claim that the CIA had lied to her concerning the use of waterboarding?
Webb thinks this to be a non-issue. However, consistency does count when someone makes a stand. I want to know what made Pelosi change her mind this last few months, because before now, she had no objections with the story lines brought forth from the White House and CIA.
I have a difficult time listening to members of Congress arguing that the American Justice system doesn’t work and how U.S. high security prisons aren’t that secure. WTF?!?!
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May 17th, 2009 at 12:17 pmI have to wonder, when I hear stuff like this, whether someone has some dirty on these people. Remember that there are illegal wiretaps out there. Just makes me go hhmmmmmm.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:18 pmand will said something i appreciated, about how there are dangerous criminals already in our prisons… he seemed to think the ‘not in my back yard’ to be ridiculous…
me too.
and there’s a brand new empty prison in montana who wants them.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:18 pmBoner is on CNN now crawling back from his criticism of the CIA last year while he condemns Pelosi for doing the same.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:23 pmHe claims she needs proof of such claims, well, Boner, how about a truth commission?
She cannot produce documented proof of a meeting she attended where no notes are allowed and attendees are not allowed to speak of what was discussed — he knows that — therefore we need a commission with authority to help dig down to the bottom of this.
Republicans – to paraphrase Shakespeare – are protesting too much.
#2 Bilbo, I often find myself in complete agreement with your comments which usually appear before I begin to type a similar comment. :)
May 17th, 2009 at 12:25 pmNewt Gingrich, who was having an extra-marital affair while pushing for impeachement of Bill Clinton over an extra-marital affair, is acting all noble over what Nancy Pelosi KNEW, all while fully ignoring what Bush and Cheney DID.
If that’s the “new image” of the Republican Party, then they really are just putting lipstick on the GOPig…
May 17th, 2009 at 12:26 pmThe NIMBY argument regarding high level prisoners is false, misleading and fearmongering. We have always had high level, dangerous criminals incarcerated around the nation with no issue of their being any further danger to the public.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:27 pmI wonder how much it costs to house a detainee. I bet more than $30,000 a year. My son and I will take one for $15,000. I have no fear of any of those prisoners. I will even keep him or her in my basement, let them eat Krispy Kremes, drink diet (I am not a savage) Mountain Dew and watch Cable. Dead in two years tops and no enhanced interrogations needed.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:36 pmThe right wing is out in full force asking “What did Nancy Pelosi know and when did she know it?” What we don’t hear anyone in the MSM asking is “What did the Republican Members of Congress know and when did they know it?”
Pelosi says that she, herself, wasn’t there when the CIA said they waterboarded Zubaydah. I’m sure the staff member who attended that meeting in her place would have told her if they said that. But since she was just one Representative from the minority party, I find it highly doubtful that she was the only one briefed (especially if she couldn’t attend the meeting.) I find it highly likely that there was at least one Republican at that meeting. Why have we not heard from that/those Republican(s)? Why hasn’t any Republican come forward and said, “I was there when the CIA told us they waterboarded Zubaydah”?
Is it because it never really happened? Or is it because they would then be implicating themselves in the same charge of complicity that they are now leveling against Pelosi?
May 17th, 2009 at 12:54 pmSo who put the screws to Webb? (And others as well?)
I think they’re all guilty, except maybe not Russ Feingold.
May 17th, 2009 at 12:58 pmBut I don’t think that it should be closed, and in terms of transferring people here.
And therein lies the truth. Webb is a NIMBY.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:03 pmWayne Ant Schneider Says:
Is it because it never really happened? Or is it because they would then be implicating themselves in the same charge of complicity that they are now leveling against Pelosi?
What I find very hard to believe is that they are saying there were no transcripts of the briefing. If there were no transcripts, then how can they say positively that they told Pelosi that a prisoner was being waterboarded?
May 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pmWebb used his Military knowledge and defense of our soldiers to get elected. Now he sounds like he got a call for Dick Cheney. Webb is now willing to deny detainees their right and continue torture? We heard a soldier kill his fellow soldiers is Webb so joined at the hip of Dick Cheney that he now will do what ever he’s told. Yes Webb started out fighting for the soldiers and the American people, but like Judas Webb got his 30 pieces of silver. Who can you trust?
May 17th, 2009 at 1:12 pmalso, on that show -
katrina deserves kudos for bringing up the new information that cheeeney was using torture to make a link between alqaeda and iraq – the excuse for attacking iraq…
and liz cheeney had to sit and listen…
ha!
oh, she tried to object – “consider the source” – but katrina got the info out there!
thank you!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:13 pmkaty,
May 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pmDid you see Liz Cheney stare Katrina down with her father’s scowl. Her look just screamed, “How dare you implicate my dad is a war criminal”.
wayne s. – i wonder than also…
i heard nancy was one of four in that briefing… who are the others?
May 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pmMarie Says:
She cannot produce documented proof of a meeting she attended where no notes are allowed and attendees are not allowed to speak of what was discussed — he knows that — therefore we need a commission with authority to help dig down to the bottom of this.
She has asked that the transcripts be published, but the CIA is saying there are no transcripts of the briefing. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
If I have the choice of believing Nancy Pelosi, who has nothing to lose by telling the truth or the CIA who has a lot to lose by telling the truth, I am going to believe Pelosi.
Unless the CIA is able to release transcripts of the briefing that would prove Pelosi was informed about the waterboarding, I will continue to believe her.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:18 pmyep max… she was also practicing her filibuster skills…
and that voice! oh, so delightful… not.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:18 pmkaty,
I watched the completely rude Liz Cheney this a.m. and all I could think of was why she is allowed on ABC to defend her war criminal, mudering bastard father. ABC constantly stacks this show with neocons. She talked over the host. She interrupted people repeatly. A really rude and arrogant asshat!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:19 pmDon’t forget, Webb was originally a Republican. And not too many years ago he was acting like a Republican:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
like this:
Rachel Maddow Show: Jane Mayer on Cheney’s Involvement With the CIA’s Intelligence Gathering
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-show-jane-mayer-cheneys-involvement
May 17th, 2009 at 1:23 pmMax Anax junius -1 Says:
Q U E S T I O N:
When president Bush said that they water boarded ONLY three high level detainees, did Pelosi protest then and claim that the CIA had lied to her concerning the use of waterboarding?
Because for Pelosi to object and say what she was told by the CIA she would have had to violate the law that precludes her from releasing classified information.
The reason why she is speaking up now is because the classified information has already been brought to light and is no longer relevant.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:24 pmBring the GITMO prisoners to America, try them, and when they’re found guilty send them to the same Colorado Supermax prison Bill Clinton sent the 1993 WTC terrorists to!
Sounds good to me. Last I knew the 1993 WTC terrorists have not been able to escape out.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:26 pmagreed dixie… she is an exemplary repug representative!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pmI’ve come to the conclusion that the Cheneys and ABC are Nazi sympathizers, because why else would they be defending the indefensible and allowing the war criminals and their family and friends speak out!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pmNancy Pelosi, her staffer Michael Sheehy, Porter Goss, his staffer Tim Sample, briefers from the CounterTerrorism Center (CTC), and the Office of Congressional Affairs (OCA; elsewhere, we’ve been told four people, total, from CIA attended).
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/16/the-two-torture-tape-suspects-the-pelosi-briefing-and-the-panetta-statement/
May 17th, 2009 at 1:31 pmThanks, KayinMaine. I wish that a Republican besides Porter Goss was there. I do not believe that he would tell the truth if it meant proving that the CIA “misled the Congress”.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pmWhat the Repukes never bother to mention is that, along with Nancy Pelosi, there were 2 Republicans who were also briefed.
IOKIYAR, eh?
But of course!
And this whole thing is ridiculous anyway. If Nancy Pelosi is guilty of conspiracy or aiding and abetting the war crime of torture – SHE CAN SHARE A CELL WITH CONDI RICE. I’m all for it.
Bring it on.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:00 pmThe CIA was supposed to tell the whole truth to the WHOLE ENTIRE HOUSE/SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES, but they didn’t. This move was unlawful, so even though Porter Goss was there (was he the one who supplied the limos when the right wingers went to the Watergate Hotel and had prostitute male & female there? I think he may have been! He’s not innocent by any stretch of the imagination), it doesn’t matter. The CIA was in the middle of duping the Congress to help the Bush Regime.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:22 pm#35 – KayInMaine,
This was not illegal. There is a gang of 8(?) that is briefed by the CIA and other intelligence sources that is not revealed to entire committees. She was a member of this group.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:37 pmBilbo,
I never said that Pelosi would have to release classified documents. What I’m questioning is when BUSH revealed that indeed, waterboarding did happen, why didn’t she object, then, and argue that she was NOT briefed.
She could have gone before the public, THEN, and said, “To the contrary, Mr. President, we were NOT briefed on waterboarding.” She wouldn’t have to reveal any documents and in fact, having confronted the Bush, she would have made him produce evidence to counter HER!
Bilbo, when Bush admitted that indeed, they waterboarded THREE high level detainees, he then opened that can of worms. People began asking questions, about it’s legitimacy, it’s legality, and it’s authorization. That should have been Pelosi’s invitation to say, “Oh really? That’s not the story the CIA gave me. Maybe the president should provide the American people of his facts.”
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May 17th, 2009 at 2:38 pmdixie,
May 17th, 2009 at 2:42 pmI didn’t know that giving false evidence to the Senate so as to persuade the Senate’s opinion on matters of National Security is legal.
Oh. I thought the whole committees had to be briefed at one time each time and not just those the CIA or others chose….
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/15/crazy-pete-hoekstra-flip-flops-on-congressional-notification/
May 17th, 2009 at 2:46 pmFrom Emptywheel of FireDogLake (link to article provided at #39):
May 17th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
KayInMaine,
From the evil wiki on the Gang of 8:
I rest my case your honor…
May 17th, 2009 at 2:59 pmMost, if not all, of the Gitmo detainees have been brutalized and beaten down to the point where they barely remember who they were when they were captured. Any US prison can house them. Seriously.
Here is a frightening article by the great Jeremy Scahill about a black-shirted goon squad that terrorizes the detainees at Gitmo:
http://www.alternet.org/rights/140022/little_known_military_thug_squad_still_brutalizing_prisoners_at_gitmo_under_obama/
May 17th, 2009 at 3:03 pmBarack is not into ideology. He is into Barack.
As he showed in 2008, when he threw his white grandmother under the bus and spared his beloved black pastor, the Rev. Wright, then threw Wright under the bus when his toxicity level rose too high, Barack has all the sentimentality of Michael Corleone when it comes to the family business. And what Obama is saying with his refusal to release the photos is what he has been signaling for weeks now: I am not going to fight the liberals’ war — on Dick Cheney’s turf.
The rewards are nonexistent, and the risks too great. Barack Obama is not taking on CENTCOM or West Point for a bunch of congressional progressives.
May 17th, 2009 at 3:07 pm#43 – Reparations4TheBlackHolocaustNOW,
And not one link to back up your bullsh|t.
Wanna provide a link or just let me call you names later…you know…like moron…as$hole…etc?
May 17th, 2009 at 3:10 pmspring heeled jack,
We learned decades ago how the Nazi’s were capable of running camps and keeping their captives in line. Albeit, their tactics were far more disgusting and brutal, the idea and concept is the same… SHOCK the others into compliance. If others can see what you are capable of doing to their friends, and you have the gun, how is it not possible that they fear it happening to them, too?
I the Nazi prison camps, before the ovens were ramped up, a bullet to the head of an inmate that was “out of line” in front of the entire camp, sent a clear implied message, “Do like he did, and this too, will be your fate”.
The goon squad at Gitmo was no different.
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May 17th, 2009 at 3:30 pmI’m sorry, but what is your point about Nancy and the ‘Gang of 8′? Torture was approved by Nancy and Nancy only and the other 3 or 7 are free to go? Not sure of your intention at the moment.
May 17th, 2009 at 4:18 pmThe ‘Gang of 4′…
May 17th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
The Bush Regime and the CIA were playing games with the Congress and the American people. They were lying to us to, but yet, it’s all Nancy’s fault whose party was IN THE MINORITY BACK THEN?
The republicans are in the MINORITY TODAY AND NOW WE’RE HEARING THAT THE PRISONERS AT GITMO ARE STILL BEING TORTURED FOR THE SHEER FUN OF IT AND NOT FOR VALUABLE INTELLIGENCE.
May 17th, 2009 at 4:22 pmWhat are the republicans going to do about this? Stand firm for torture or go on record standing against it but blaming the Democrats?
My post said nothing about “Nancy” PLESE PAY ATTENTION, READ CAREFULLY AND DON’T START WITH ME….
I tried to inform you. Don’t attack me. There’s no “Nancy” in my post….
Apologize! Now!
May 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pmExcuse me, but asking you for your intention is not SAYING YOU ARE BLAMING NANCY. No apology needed. Psychiatric therapy might be something you should look into, though.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:05 pmThis was secret evidence and I don’t go along this this.
This was not sworn evidence before the Senate or one of its committees. The Gang of 8 has special rights and priviledges most Amiercans don’t understand.
Please try to understand the shades of gray before you. And read the rules of the Congress and Senate before you comment further!!!!
May 17th, 2009 at 5:05 pmTHERE WAS NO INTENTION EXCEPT TO EDUCATE YOU….
KayInMaine,
Here is my first post to you:
This was my next post:
Then you attacked me….There is no “Nancy” here. Get over it!!!
May 17th, 2009 at 5:19 pmLook, no one at any of these CIA briefings are ‘guilty’ of anything.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:36 pmI think it’s a real possibility that the CIA were obfuscating illegal activities.
I
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I support Nancy, and am not willing to give the Rethugs her scalp, which they would crow about for years.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:40 pmI had put you on trial, for gawd’s sake? YOU GET OVER IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
I asked what your intentions were and YOU ATTACKED ME FOR DOING SO. She was in the Gang of 8 but was with the Gang of 4 when she was briefed if I’m not mistaken. I was trying to point out that the gang she was with didn’t have any authority and as AIO Grasshopper is also now pointing out….it doesn’t matter if it was Gang of 8, Gang of 4, or Gang of 1500 Plus Finland…..all of them were duped by the CIA!
Jees.
May 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pmOS
What you ignorant brainwashed punkass trolls consider common knowledge is known in the reality based universe as a delusional fantasy
May 17th, 2009 at 7:30 pmNo you did not put me on trial. I simply closed my argument with a common phrase from the courts.
But you are too stupid to understand the phrase I used or to read my ORIGINAL post where the is NO mention of “Nancy”. Period. No phucking “Nancy” mentioned you troll!!!
Grow a brain. Learn to read. Read my post and you will see there is NO “NANCY” mentioned you phucking idiot!!
May 17th, 2009 at 7:59 pmOS
What proof that you are an ignorant brainwashed punkass trolls. That is in every post you make. You pathetic piece of stupid.
May 17th, 2009 at 9:04 pmit is a huge mistake for democrats to embrace DINOs in lieu of embracing principle and being for truth and justice.
May 17th, 2009 at 11:19 pmGang of 4
I loved their song “I love a man in a uniform”.
Ah, the 80’s…
May 18th, 2009 at 12:20 amAww dang! They got to Webb somehow. Was it straight out of republicani fear tactics? how many captives again?
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Jim Webb has always been “my country right or wrong” guy. Just because he pulled a “Specter” to run for office, doesn’t mean he left behind his right-wing sensibilities or proclivities. Anyone surprised by Webb’s statements simply hasn’t done their background homework on the man. He opposed the Vietnam Memorial because it wasn’t patriotic enough and had enough allies on the Hill to require the installment of the soldiers’ statue – and he didn’t like the commissioned piece either because it didn’t show the glorious American warrior. Now of course he’s changed his tune on that too. . . .
May 18th, 2009 at 8:18 amWow. Only a troll who’s a phucking idiot would say something like this complete with lots of exclamation points as if to puff herself out to be something she’s not.
I asked what your intention was and only mentioned Nancy because it appeared you were trying to change the subject in making this a “blame Nancy please” moment. Twice in the same paragraph I asked:
“I’m sorry, but what is your point about Nancy and the ‘Gang of 8′?” Torture was approved by Nancy and Nancy only and the other 3 or 7 are free to go? “Not sure of your intention at the moment.”
When you mentioned the Gang of 8 and said Nancy was in it, the only conclusion I could make is that you were talking about Nancy because she was in the Gang of 8! She was also in the Gang of 4 too. Scary.
As I stated later, it doesn’t matter how many people were in the gang, because they were all lied to and deceived by the CIA and the Bush Regime.
I can tell the only thing to calm you down is to give you some credit. GREAT COPY & PASTES! VERY VALUABLE INFORMATION! AND YOU WEREN’T EVEN TORTURED TO DO IT! LOL
May 18th, 2009 at 8:36 am______
Wayne Ant Schneider Says:
The right wing is out in full force asking “What did Nancy Pelosi know and when did she know it?” What we don’t hear anyone in the MSM asking is “What did the Republican Members of Congress know and when did they know it?”
May 17th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
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That’s a good question if those Repbulicans are now calling for investigations and/or punishment of those involved, after having taken no action earlier like Pelosi.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:29 amOnce again UL shows how easy it is to lead the sheeple to think what they are told to think. Yeah the big question isnt why was the Bush administration lying and torturing the real question is what Democrat can we blame this on. Not a dozen functioning braincells between all of them.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:43 am______
EugeneDebs Says:
Once again UL shows how easy it is to lead the sheeple to think what they are told to think. Yeah the big question isnt why was the Bush administration lying and torturing the real question is what Democrat can we blame this on. Not a dozen functioning braincells between all of them.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:43 am
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Hey, deb, how’s going? The idea of punishing those who failed to try to stop illegal activity, as well as punishing the perpetrators, is beyond you isn’t it bud? ;)
May 18th, 2009 at 12:59 pmI really feel for Dr. Gov. Dean. Webb must of had his spine (and brain) removed like Reid and so many other Dems.Invasion of the Pod people? We report…you decide.
May 18th, 2009 at 2:56 pmOOps! I forgot to mention Gov. Tim Kaine. Another spineless non-spokesperson for the Dems.
May 18th, 2009 at 3:04 pmupright left Says:
Hey, deb, how’s going? The idea of punishing those who failed to try to stop illegal activity, as well as punishing the perpetrators, is beyond you isn’t it bud? ;)
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No critical thinking IS beyond you though isnt it bud? First she was in the minority and those briefings were CLASSIFIED. What exactly COULD she do? Try to make a law that would never get out of comittee? Complain to WHOM? As of yet exactly what she DID know is in dispute. He said she said is not proof of anything also. Can you be indicted because you didnt try to save a drowning man? In fact you CANNOT. So while the CONCEPT isnt beyond me as of YET it also isnt LAW. Am I going to fast for you here? I know you arent that bright. It is so precious to see your constant condescension coupled with your abject stupidity.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:01 pm______
EugeneDebs Says:
upright left Says:
Hey, deb, how’s going? The idea of punishing those who failed to try to stop illegal activity, as well as punishing the perpetrators, is beyond you isn’t it bud? ;)
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As of yet exactly what she DID know is in dispute. He said she said is not proof of anything also.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
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That would be why she needs to be included in those being investigated, bud. See how that works? That’s kind of the purpose of investigating; to see if punishment is warranted. In addition to what did she know and when did she know it, now her accusation that the CIA lied to Congress needs to be investigated. Either the CIA or Pelosi needs to be held accountable depending upon the veracity of the statement.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pmAs for what she could have done, I would expect any U.S. Representative with such knowledge to at least have written letters of protest to every person in the Adminisration with involvement in the policies. Additionally, that “impeachment is off the table” thing takes on a whole new meaning if she was aware of the illegal actions all along. At least it does if one is more concerned with justice than partisanship. ;)
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