Limbaugh responds to Price: ‘How the hell’ can Price say Powell is better for GOP than Cheney?
Limbaugh responds to Price: ‘How the hell’ can Price say Powell is better for GOP than Cheney?
This morning on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough asked Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) if he believed that Rush Limbaugh and former Vice President Cheney were “somehow better Republicans than Colin Powell.” “Goodness, no,” Price responded. On his radio show today, Limbaugh respond to Price, asking, “How in the hell can you say that Dick Cheney was worse for the Republican Party than Colin Powell!?” Limbaugh reiterated his claim that Powell endorsed Obama entirely because of his race and proclaimed that Cheney was a model Republican because he “gets results”:
LIMBAUGH: How in the hell can you say that Dick Cheney is worse for the Republican Party than Colin Powell? It was Colin Powell who endorsed Barack Obama after the Republican party gave Colin Powell the exact kind of nominee he claims to want. [...]
The Vice President gets results! Do you not see what Dick Cheney was able to pull off last week? You basically have the Bush policy on Gitmo and interrogations intact. … And [Price] says that Dick Cheney is not as good a Republican as Colin Powell is?
Watch it:
The question now is if Price will, like other Republicans before him, deliver a mea culpa for publicly disagreeing with El Rushbo. But disagreements within the conservative movement aside, the “Bush policy on Gitmo and interrogations” is by no means “intact.”
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Which says a lot about the Obama administration.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:51 pmHhmmmmmmmm…Let’s see:
Cheney-5 deferments, War Criminal
Powell–35 years in the military, War Hero
‘Nuff said.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:51 pmLamebaugh is delusional. What did Cheney pull off? The only thing Cheney succeeded at was proving his guilt. He helped that GOP tent get just a little bit smaller. Cheney’s request for certain memos was denied. Cheney has no power or influence over what decisions are made in Washington.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pmTime to pucker-up Congressman…Boss Limpbaugh has spoken!
May 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pmLimbaugh himself is the worst thing of all for Republicans. Most of them are just too ignorant to realize it.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:54 pmThere seem to be two different questions. Which is a better Republican and which is better *for* the Republicans. Powell is arguably a better model for what some people would like the Republican party to represent. Cheney is one of the de facto leaders of the party, but his politics of division and fear are not a roadmap for the future. Of course Limbaugh would choose division and fear over Powell’s practicality. Powell will forever be tarnished by his endorsement of Cheney’s policies, but history will judge him far more kindly than Cheney, the grand inquisitor who ordered torture to further his political ambitions.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pmI think ideological purity is definitely the way out of the wilderness for Republicans.
And don’t throw me in that briar patch, whatever you do!
May 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pmAnd the Bush policies on Gitmo and detainees are FAR form intact. Gitmo is being closed. And the detainees are going to be tried in military tribunals. This is very different from the kangaroo courts which the Bush administration originally proposed and spent years defending in the courts.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pmI know this is going to sound petty, but here goes:
I was raised by conservative, evangelical “Christians” — i.e., the Limbaugh “Base.” If I were ever to say something such as “what the hell” or “how the hell,” I would have been severely punished. Evangelical “Christians” don’t talk like that.
I just find it very interesting that for people who are so unwilling to compromise on almost EVERYTHING, they excuse Boss Limbaugh for what they themselves consider to be sinful vulgarity.
The hypocrisy just blows the mind.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pmThe de facto leader is just throwing out more discourse to keep everyone distracted form the real problems facing this country,unemployment,health care, jobs,education and why the banks/big business are really running Washington.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pmOn his radio show today, Limbaugh respond to Price, asking, “How in the hell can you say that Dick Cheney was worse for the Republican Party than Colin Powell!?”
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Oh, I dunno — maybe Price’s vision of the Republican Party is different from Limbaugh’s?
Limbaugh’s vision of the GOP appears to be the version that sells best to the ravenous sharks who make up his audience but won’t win elections. Price seems to have gotten a clue. Maybe he meant what he said, and he won’t bend over and grab his ankles for Rush.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:01 pmJ. Fred Smug, These guys in the Reich wouldn`t know the truth when it hits them square in the face,these guys revise the revisions they made so that removes them from all things true,hence the hypocrisy.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:02 pmLimpdick is absolutely right. Cheney is getting results, just look at how support for the repugs keeps declining. Keep up the good work DICK.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pmWell, is he a hero?
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/colin3.html
http://www.the-spark.net/np698802.html
Just keep googling and you’ll get more info on this.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pmmisscoleopteramolly, Any bets on when he apologizes to Flush?
May 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pmLimbaugh + Cheney =
ass-kissin’ !!
May 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pmErrr limpydic, you have lost your one brain cell. YOU didn’t vote for Obama because he’s an African-American. Also you are one junked up junkie to believe a war hero means nothing next to a torturing madman.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:12 pmThey’re fighting with one another, and they all know they’re screwed. That’s the silver lining in this mess.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pmNo one in the media (let alone the GOP) is either willing or astute enough to give Rush a history. The 2000′ John McCain was the “candidate he (i.e. Powell) would want”. The 2008 version was a far cry from the moderate which ran (and lost) in 2000. Rush continues to peddle this ignorance posing as political science with nary a word from anyone. Rush, keep believin’ McCain was “Mr. Moderate” in 08′. Such thinking will only drive your party into irrelevance.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:18 pmTorture is not the way to facilitate cooperation with other countries. The U.S. should focus more on soft power and increase the strategic foreign aid.
The Borgen Project has good info on the estimated cost of ending global poverty:
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pmdavidwaters:
May 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pmIt is my opinion that Borgen is full of shit. Might you explain the nonsense about Dutch Harbor so I can stand corrected up what appears to me to be a yuppie pussy boy…
How is the General better than the Puppet Master? Well for one thing Powell is a former General who fought hard for this country. The Puppet Master just tried to make his buddies richer well doing sexually explicit things to this country.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pmThe GNOPers who want to hold on to their seats in anything other than fully gerrymandered districts are going to need to start waking up and seeing that moderation is what many of the remaining Republicans, and right-leaning independents, are looking for. The idealogues are painting themselves into a smaller and smaller corner and being ridiculed in the process.
The first ones to stand up to Limbaugh and not back down are going to get attention.
Not that I’m trying to help them…
PEACE
May 18th, 2009 at 5:29 pmOH NO! THE HAMMER COMES DOWN ON REP. PRICE! OH THE HORROR!
Apology will be issued as soon as Rep. Price can be revived.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pmYep blame Colin Powell not John McCain. You’d thin it was Powell who decided to have dim bulb Palin run along side over the hill McCain. Dumb and Dumber. Yeah hard to figure why Powell couldn’t vote Republican.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pmI was wondering when Rush was going to call Scarborough on his instigating. This could be fun.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pmWow, Limbaugh is leading the Republicans over the cliff. I honestly think Limbaugh is blinded by his own ego and arrogance. Do the Repugs think they will win any elections kowtowing to Limbaugh? Every single Republican who has stood up to him, later apologizes. That tells me Repugs have no balls.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pmchristopher wiwi Says
May 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
misscoleopteramolly, Any bets on when he apologizes to Flush?
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The safe answer here is in five days. That seems to be the average. But if he can last a week, he may not be apologizing at all.
I suspect the general incubation period goes like this: Republican elected or appointed official publicly says something about Rush Limbaugh that isn’t fawning enough. Limbaugh blasts said Republican official on his show. Dittoheads (particularly in the R’s district, if he/she is a Representative or Senator) then flood the R’s office with phone calls and e-mails — all hostile. Fear of alienating base affects R, who then publicly sucks up to Rush and meekly blends back into the fold. This cycle generally takes but a few days.
It’s going to come down to how many of Price’s constituents are Rush fans. Price could fold like all the others. Or if he’s not worried about his re-election, he may stand up to Rush — inspiring other Republicans tired of the blackmail to do the same.
BTW — Price has a reputation for being extremely conservative and partisan. Even though he’s only on his second term, he could have enough confidence in his conservative credentials to refuse to kowtow to a radio host.
Years ago, a senator from Washington state — Henry “Scoop” Jackson — stood up to Joe McCarthy. Jackson had faith that his constituents knew he was no fan of Communism. Perhaps Tom Price is the same. Or he’ll fold within a week.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pmThe infighting in the Republican Party reminds me of the general theme of “Lawrence of Arabia”. Although the Arabs had a common enemy, Lawrence was unable to unite them against that enemy even though it would have benefited all of them. Perhaps the Republicans are all really Arabs.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:34 pmLimbaugh will always say whatever gets him the most controversy and airtime. How else can he keep his base of listeners? He’s just like a car crash, the worse it is, the harder it is to look away.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:34 pmLimbaugh sez:
Nothing relevant.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:41 pmIn other words, Limburger wants Price to kiss his ring.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pmAlejandro Says:
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Powell–35 years in the military, War Hero
Well, is he a hero?
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/colin3.html
http://www.the-spark.net/np698802.html
Just keep googling and you’ll get more info on this.
According to snopes:
http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/37/t/001051.html
May 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pmI feel an apology coming soon?
First Price, then Morning JoeK.
Yes, Rush when you take sides with a War Criminal over a decorated War Hero who was brave enough to serve his country (unlike a drug addict COWARD like yourself) we all can understand your choice.
Rush-Palin2012
(Beauty & The Beast)
G od damn it, we didn’t water board!
May 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pmO kay, we did water board but it worked!
P elosi said we could do it!
Your first clue, Rush? Powell endorsed Barack Obama! That means he’s smart. Dick Cheney? A warmongering lying sack of crap who committed war crimes to catapult his illegal agenda in the ME.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:53 pmPlace bets on when Price is grumble and make an apolozie to the great one.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:54 pmI have to wonder what Limbaughs definition of republican is….it seems to be the cigar smoking country club version.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:04 pmG od damn it, we didn’t water board!
O kay, we did water board but it worked!
P elosi said we could do it!
That is very funny.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:07 pmSo why did the GOP make little if any mention of Cheney or Bush during the run-up to the 2008 election?
Powell knew that the intelligence for going into Iraq was coming from alternative avenues, Chalabi and the INC, and told Bush he shouldnt go into Iraq. Powell was right, I think, cause if they had listened to Powell they wouldnt have gone into Iraq. The GOP should not have listened to the neo-cons, but they did and it didnt turn out well for Limbaughs chicken hawks
May 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pmHey Price, Roberta McCain didnt apologize!
May 18th, 2009 at 6:11 pmI might expect an apology, but I expect a clarification from Price that Cheney and Powell are equally important to the GOP.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:11 pmOT
I came across this little gem via Raw Story.
The Velvet Revolution is keeping up the fight.
This is a free book worth over 25 bucks.
For some reason I can’t download the complete book, but I can download chapters.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:21 pmI heard on one of those talking head shows that all great parties go through this slump. he claimed the dems went through a slump after raygun was elected.
Funny I can’t recall a slump like the repugs.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
May 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pmUS journo claims Bhutto was killed on Cheney’s orders
A special death squad assassinated Pakistan’s former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto on the orders of former US Vice-President Dick Cheney, an Arab TV channel has reported. “Cheney was the chief of the Joint Special Operation Command and he cleared the way for the US by exterminating opponents through the unit and the CIA. General Stanley was the in-charge of the unit,” The Nation quoted US columnist Seymour Hersh, as saying.
You mean this Dick Cheney is good for the Republic Fascist Party?
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
May 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pmChessmaster @33
… In other words, Limburger wants Price to kiss his ring.
And his golden Mic….
May 18th, 2009 at 6:35 pmRush is of course a national embarrassment.
The real problem is that normal people, of a conservative bent, are now joining the Democratic Party. The Republican Party has become a small, Confederate-style, party, so most of the more intelligent types are moving to the Democratic Party.
This makes the Democrats less the progressive party, and more of just a big-tent party. We actually need a principled, conservative Party that can hold an honest debate. That would give the voters a real choice.
Instead, we have Rush Limpbowel and Cheney the Impaler to lead the Republicans, and since most Americans are not Fascists, the party is shrinking badly.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pmThat’s right. He didn’t investigate My Lai. At one point, it was his job to go around and get a sense of the relationship between American soldiers and Vietnamese civilians. When massacres like My Lai were brought to Powell’s attention, he whitewashed them. “No sir, everything is fine.”
Then in Desert Storm, he was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs where he oversaw indiscriminate slaughter of civilians and retreating Iraqi troops.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pmYes, but what does snopes say?
/snark
May 18th, 2009 at 6:52 pmOh nooo olepi, repugs can’t take over our party. This is just like those teabaggers, interlopers.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:53 pmbuckie boy, if this is true, this will sew up the repug club.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pmanyone wanna bet Price will apologize by tomorrow?
May 18th, 2009 at 6:55 pmsomeone ought to clue the repukies into the fact that tub-o-lard is listened to only by the loony fringers while sending moderates and independents running screaming from their party. then again, let’s keep that a secret amongst friends and let the repukies have their 15 percent of the vote.
May 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pmTalking about the repugs’ torture isn’t making us unsafe, it’s chimpys’ lawless admin.
We can’t even be sure if buckshot was involved or not because we lost face.
Until the wrongs are righted there will be no moving forward.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:02 pm55 Go away blogwhore
May 18th, 2009 at 8:18 pmWell for one thing Rush Darth Cheney is PURE unadulterated EVIL. Secondly anyone who thinks a lying piece of garbage like YOU is good for ANYTHING but propaganda and stirring up the morons is obviously a nitwit.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:19 pmTo paraphrase Full Metal Jacket,
Me: “HOW TALL ARE YOU LIMBAUGH?”
May 18th, 2009 at 8:44 pmRush: “Five-foot nine, sir”
Me: “Five-foot nine? Holy Jesus, I didn’t know they
stacked shit that high”
Why are we still talking about the Republican party as if it is something to be saved? The GOP is a G-roup O-f P-igs and now all America knows it. So, let’s just move on.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:47 pmPlease, please, dont throw us into the briar patch, Brer Rush!
Historical and cultural ignorance will do in the Right. Their reticence to think normally will do them in.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:51 pmCue apology in 5…
4…
3…
2…
May 18th, 2009 at 9:13 pmWith an approval rating of 18%, Cheney represents his party pretty well.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pmQuick thoughts
1.) Rush injects race into the discussion at every
opportunity. I am whitey and Obama was the best candidate
period. If this is Republican dogma, the Republicans are
guaranteed minority status for a long time. They won’t be
able to talk around this legacy down the road.
2.) The senior Republican politicians are growing weary of
taking marching orders from the old windbag. The pressure
is building to get Rush out of the way.
3.) Cheney is a big Republican liability. His public standing
is in the mud and his baggage is pretty ugly. The public
perception is the old boy is trying to cover his a##. The
party would surely like him to leave town.
4.) The Republicans have a lot of damage control to do, and
the country is getting impatience with the “spoiled brat”
syndrome. They better grow up fast, there is work to do.
This is not the time to bail out on the country.
This would leave them with another legacy to deal with
down the road.
5.) Powell is one of the few Republicans that have any
credibility left. Alienating him from the party is a
“shooting yourself in the foot”.
“It looks like minority party by design.” Thanks Rush!!
May 18th, 2009 at 9:55 pmflight Says:
Rush injects race into the discussion at every opportunity.
Remember when our Navy Seals rescued Capt Phillips? Rush actually said, “If this had been a Republican president, and he had those three black teenagers shot…” (emphasis his)
He was making the automatic, tacit assumption, without fear of contradiction, that any Republican president would automatically be white. Didn’t say it outright, didn’t have to. He was differentiating between a black president having three black teenagers shot, and a white president doing the same thing. There was no mistaking it. Whether he wants to admit it or not, Rush Limbaugh is a racist. Not because he notices the racial differences, but because they matter to him.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:32 pmThat didn’t format quite right. Sorry for the duplicate comment.
flight Says:
Rush injects race into the discussion at every opportunity.
Remember when our Navy Seals rescued Capt Phillips? Rush actually said, “If this had been a Republican president, and he had those three black teenagers shot…” (emphasis his)
He was making the automatic, tacit assumption, without fear of contradiction, that any Republican president would automatically be white. Didn’t say it outright, didn’t have to. He was differentiating between a black president having three black teenagers shot, and a white president doing the same thing. There was no mistaking it. Whether he wants to admit it or not, Rush Limbaugh is a racist. Not because he notices the racial differences, but because they matter to him.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:33 pmOn his radio show today, Limbaugh respond to Price, asking, “How in the hell can you say that Dick Cheney was worse for the Republican Party than Colin Powell!?”…The question now is if Price will, like other Republicans before him, deliver a mea culpa for publicly disagreeing with El Rushbo. But disagreements within the conservative movement aside, the “Bush policy on Gitmo and interrogations” is by no means “intact.”
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Okay, let’s get one thing straight here…is Limbaugh at this point accepted by most Republicans as the de facto leader of/spokesman for the GOP or not? If not, then it seems to me that Price has every bit a much right to his own beliefs and opinions as Limbaugh does to his regarding which Republican constitutes a better example of what the party should look like.
If there were a strong consensus among Republicans (both high-level and rank-and-file) that Limbaugh represents some sort of unofficial majordomo for the party, that might be a different story — but even if only at the level of the ordinary citizen, there seems to be more than enough dissension in the ranks (John McCain’s mother being just one example) to suggest that this is not the case.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:37 pmThe recent poll of GOP insiders by the National Journal also suggests that popular opinion is not on Limbaugh’s side — only 33% of responders agreed with the sentiment that Cheney’s comments since leaving office have had a salutary impact for the Republican Party. 10% either had no opinion or stated that his comments had no effect either way — while a whopping 57% were of the opinion that his comments were having a negative impact on the party.
I agree with Rush that Cheney was someone who “gets results”. The big problem was that those results were not to the liking of most Americans as his 19% approval rating testifies. And nowhere was it worse than over Cheney’s bullying on torture attempting to establish a non-existing link between Saddam and 9/11. Atta in Prague, after all, came from one of those torture sessions and it was just what Cheney wanted to hear, fabrication though it was.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:22 pmAlejandro Says:
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That’s right. He didn’t investigate My Lai. At one point, it was his job to go around and get a sense of the relationship between American soldiers and Vietnamese civilians. When massacres like My Lai were brought to Powell’s attention, he whitewashed them. “No sir, everything is fine.”
Then in Desert Storm, he was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs where he oversaw indiscriminate slaughter of civilians and retreating Iraqi troops.
Spare me. All the links I found – both what you put up *and* googling – are in no way reputable sources. In other words, this so-called Colin Powell “fact” appears to have as much accuracy as the “fact” Obama isn’t a natural born citizen, and is therefore ineligible for the presidency.
May 19th, 2009 at 12:42 am.
PRICELESS…
… Oh the irony of the G(no)P!
Here we have their presumptive leader, Limpballs, tea bagging Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) over who is the worst member.
People, their arguing over who scum and who’s dirt…
… As if one or the other is the real “PRIZE”.
I suppose Limpballs will demand Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) be that loyal (R)ushpublickin’ and taste that Oxy sweat filled teabaggin’ he’s about to receive from Limpballs.
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May 19th, 2009 at 1:16 amDid Powell ever endorse Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, or even a man in his own party…Alan Keyes?
So dont tell me his (Powell’s) endorsement of Obama was EVER about race.
Yes, he sold me, and the rest of the nation, on that cluster that is the Iraq war, which shows he’s no more perfect than the current president. But he has a lifetime of the most patriotic thing you can do in this nation…
May 19th, 2009 at 9:10 amSERVICE IN THE MILITARY! Last I checked, both Cheaney and Limbaugh have a combined Zero (0) between them.