Recently, conservatives who oppose torture investigations have been desperately trying to stifle discussion of Bush administration officials who authorized torture. Last week, for example, Karl Rove said that a public debate about torture serves as a “recruiting tool” for terrorists. Today, Fox News contributor Dana Perino joined in on the fearmongering, saying that recent congressional debates about torture are producing a “field day” for terrorists:
PERINO: Everyday there’s another step in this story. … Everyday the House of Representatives is having to deal with this issue. But it’s not just the House. They’ve drug everybody into this. But my concern is we’re not giving due interests as to what the terrorists are taking from this. We need to think about the international audience here. I’m sure the terrorists are having a field day.
“Now, very interesting point,” chimed host Gretchen Carlson. “Absolutely!” added Steve Doocy. Watch it:
“I’m a communications person … They’ve drug everybody into this.”
What a moron.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:55 amWhat the???
Why is Dana Perino saying ANYTHING?
And why is anyone even bothering to listen?
Teh Stoopid keeps on flowing like wine, huh?
May 18th, 2009 at 9:55 amYes, the terrorists are having a field day because now they are able to point at the United States torturing people and can claim victory.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:56 amHere’s an idea Dana, maybe if we hadn’t tortured detainees the terrorist wouldn’t be having what you call a “field day” over it. Then again perhaps they’re as horrified as we are by the heinous nature of our behavior especially because they realize not every detainee is a terrorist.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:57 amThe Fixed Noise Mutual Admiration Society on parade.
Carlson & Doocy have opinions on everything & expertise in nothing.
Perino may have been the most dimwitted press/sec in history. My God, she didn’t even know what the Bay of Pigs meant.
Fixed News: Home of broken beauty queens & unemployed press secretaries.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:00 amWe need to think about the international audience here.
Oh good. The Bush administration finally cares about what the international audience thinks.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:00 amSo Perino thinks the terrorists are hearing this debate and running out to play games like red-rover and having water-balloon relays?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:00 amIt’s a field day for nitwits like Perino. They’re just whoring themselves for the bucks from MSM. Never mind they hurt our country in the process.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:02 am@1… yeah my Grammar Nazi nerdrage went off reading that too. Shouldn’t the White House Press Secretary know proper English?
What are the qualifications for F’s sake.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:03 amThe ‘terrists’? Having a field day? Because we’re discussing the crimes of George W. Bush & CO?
What a wanker. Maybe they’d have a field day if we put George on trial, too.
I would have my own personal field day if and when that day comes.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:03 amIs she saying we should worry about what the “Terrorists”think about us? We’ve already branded them “Terrorists”, that pretty much sums up what we believe of them. I would like our govt. to show the American people that we are better than them.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:04 amShe’s quite the expert.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:05 amI wonder if she can fix my lawn mower.
How can she be sure? Does she have secret Al Qaeda connections? Is she a closet terrorist collaborator? Can we waterboard her to find out?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:06 amI’m pretty sure it isn’t the “debate” so much as the actual gdamn “TORTURE” that’s serving as a recruiting tool. Thanks…tool.
Funny. Thinking of the international audience is one of the many reasons you don’t TORTURE in the first place.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:06 amIt’s a field day for the Grand Obstructionist Party, period, who are also blaming Nancy Pelosi for not standing up to the party’s own administration which tortured enemy combatants! Never mind that Bush-Cheney authorized torturing people to cook up the rationale for invading Iraq! Republicans are now saying it was Pelosi’s responsibility to say no. The chutzpah and hypocrisy of the party of NO is just unbelievable, but yet the true believers will believe this.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:08 amuhm i think they’re probably having more of a viscereal, effective field day with, oh, say random footage of civilian casualities in the iraq war…
May 18th, 2009 at 10:10 am“We need to think about the international audience here”
Bwhahahahaha. Oh boy, you know their reaching the bottom of thier argument bag when their trying to tell us we need to be concerned about what the rest of the world thinks of us…
May 18th, 2009 at 10:11 amApparently perino thinks we are a weak nation and cannot defend ourselves. This 9/11 mindset is a defeatist attitude and has cost this country a bit of freedom. Besides if she is so worried about torture talk why doesn’t she tell dick to stfu. perino is as lame now as she was in the white house and really should stfu herself and go away.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:13 amBarbie is doing her best to protect Dick Cheney. Yes Barbie thinks we have keep secret all the crimes we do and us tell everyone to follow the US human rights. We shouldnot’ let anyone know we torture innocent men/woman/children. Oops the World knew it before the US Media/Press reported it. China has reported the US kidnapping/torture/murder of some innonect people years ago.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:13 amLike Ranting Tommy, this also left me speculating on what a terrorist field day looks like. Relay races wearing bomb vests? The rocket launcher toss? How would anyone from an administration that took its eyes off the real terrorists in order to pursue their own agenda have any idea what the terrorists are doing?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:14 amIsn’t this that “blame America first” attitude that right wingers claim to despise? Who cares what so-called terrorists think? Should we stifle our first amendment rights so that we aren’t attacked again?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:17 amOnly a right wing pansy would be so frightened that they would think America could not protect herself from terrorist criminals without resorting to torture and war.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:17 amNothing more need be said.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:19 amAnd she should know, right?
Where does she come from with her remarks — she was the talking mouth for Bush&Co — she has only her own speculation, based on what she has been told. She has no credibility, no reason to be on the air, except that now she has a job with Fox.
Her mission now, following repugnisum direction, is to undermine the Obama administration.
It’s not different from Liz cheney — they have no knowledge, they have only what they were told.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:19 amBTW, when did we see Chelsea Clinton on the talk shows defending her father? Also, even the Bush daughters have been silent (like their father, they are relieved to be out of the spotlight, I’m sure).
Willingness to lie through your teeth in public.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:20 amI feel tortured every time Dana Peroxide has a field day talking to the press.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:21 amTerrorists would NOT be having “a field day” with this in the 1st place if the United States did not torture.
Ooops, I forgot.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:21 am:The United States does not torture”
No doubt the terrorists may exhibit some jubilation over confirmation of something they knew was going on all along.
Will they get any new converts from it? Probably not all that many, since they’ve already been recruiting using the “America tortures” selling point, and pretty much the entire Middle East believed we did. So even if Al Qaeda has a “field day”, it won’t mean much.
What IS different is that the world (which includes terrorists and potential terrorist recruits) is seeing that we are having a dialog about torture, and most of America condemns it. This is how a free and democratic society works. Now we need to ramp this up to the next level — to show the world that what we condemn carries consequences for its advocates and practitioners. If we don’t hold torturers and torture enablers accountable for their actions, any transparency doesn’t really mean much.
Oh, and Perino is still a bubblehead. Some things never change.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:22 amCan someone please ask Dana Perino, “How do you know about their activities for this ‘field day’? Have you been palling around with them?”
May 18th, 2009 at 10:22 amDana is confirming what the President ssys when he tells us that by torturing we made us less safe. To blame it on the discussin is stupid. It was the act that played into the terrorists hands.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:23 amHer boss and his cabal did more to inflame terrorists than any capitalist American policy, or American freedom: “they hate us for our freedom.” What a ridiculously ignorant remark oft repeated by her, the cabal and the repugs.
Their refusal to enter into a dialogue with anyone in the region – their “my way or no way” attitude, not to mention their corrupt, contemptible mismanagement of the war/invasion, their disregard for all Muslims, and the torture they now admit to have ordered — these have all fomented fury in hearts and minds.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:25 amDoodlebug Shayne Says:
“I’m a communications person … They’ve drug everybody into this.”
- – Dana is speaking the language of Bush. Or maybe she thought she was talking about the Mexican drug cartel violence. But yeah, she’s a complete an utter moron.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:26 amShe makes it sound like the terrorists just found out we might have done bad things. Sorry, but I don’t think that cat ever got put in the bag. They knew about it before the American public did.
So just who are you afraid is going to find out? The folks in Iraq and Afghanistan don’t need pictures to get po’ed at the US. More projectionism so we should just substitute the American people and then we know why so many people in DC have diaper rash these days.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:26 amIf torture is so effective then its use and our acknowledgment of its use would not help or embolden the terrorists. Right?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:28 amTorture and rendition make excellent recruiting tools for the enemy of any state that uses those tools. Weren’t those among the reasons invading Iraq got support?
Since the discussion is about the effectiveness of torture instead of prosecution of the crime of torture, then yes it helps the enemy.
If the discussion was about punishing the crime, we would demonstrate a moral standard that would hinder their recruitment.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:29 amOh please. This is not new. We’ve known about this for years. So, Dana says NOW they are having a field day? Faux News has gone over the deep end. From a network that used to have a pro-Repbublican bent, they are now the Neo-con Republican network. Fair and Balanced my ass.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:30 amMarie says:
You forgot to mention the Bush/Cheney’s utter contempt for the opinions of the American people.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:31 amUncle Ho Says:
Marie says:
You forgot to mention the Bush/Cheney’s utter contempt for the opinions of the American people.
So..?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:32 amTypical rightwing mindset. The problem is NEVER why were crimes comitted or what crimes were comitted by a conservative but always why is anyone talking ABOUT the crimes comitted by a conservative. It is supposed to be our dirty little secret and who DARES break the Omerta. If Bush robbed a bank the right would be screaming for prosecutions… of anyone talking about the bank robberies in the media.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:47 amOnly Republicans believe the Bush administration’s war crimes did not happen, if you just don’t talk about them. Apparently, Dana thinks the terrorists are Republicans.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:47 amNo, sorry, terrorist field and recruitment days were best held during the ‘high point’ of the Bush administration – torture being one of the best calling cards.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:47 amTweedster:
Are you going Cheney on us?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:48 amIs Perino a native English speaker? Why do so many of these Bushtards sound like they learned English from watching soap operas or reality TV?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:51 amThe United States has lost all Moral ground to make assessments about right and wrong. The UN and all other international treaty organizations should sanction the USA by dropping them to the level of such other torture countries as the Sudan, Chile and Uganda.
What Americans think is immaterial – This should be dealt with on an international stage and the American government should cooperate in all possible ways. It doesn’t matter who is found guilty and who is found innocent, it only matters that the proper steps are taken to bring all information to light and those who committed crimes are punished for them. It shouldn’t matter what country, what party or what job they are/were in, they should be punished! Even President Obama if he is keeping information form those who need it to proper pursue these charges.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:51 amUncle Ho Says:
Tweedster:
Are you going Cheney on us?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:51 amWho wants to go quail hunting? Any takers??
I’m in a huff since the Celtics laid an egg last night. Everyone can go Leahy themselves.
CParis Says:
Is Perino a native English speaker? Why do so many of these Bushtards sound like they learned English from watching soap operas or reality TV?
They do all sound like the words are DRUG out of them.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:52 am. . . and not a single voice rising at ThinkProgress to defend the lovely Ms. Perino and her insightful analysis.
Abandoning our values has caused the “field day,” not the efforts to re-right the misdirected ship that is America’s justice and intelligence systems.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:53 amTweedster:
Chill, man.
It’s only a game.
You really want a bummer?
The Mighty Michigan Wolverines(3-9), had their 1st losing season in football in 41 years. Try topping that.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:04 amWho can believe anything the Bush administration told us. It’s all smoke and mirrors as far as we know. They have duped the American people because they were allowed to. That’s what happens when corrupt people steal the presidency. They believe they can do anything and get away with it. So far it looks like they are going to mostly because so many American people, other than us, can’t be bothered paying attention to their leaders.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:10 amCome to Chicago, we’re used to losing. We just never let it interfere with the party. :=)
May 18th, 2009 at 11:11 amDoodlebug Shayne;
Best offer I had today, thanx.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:13 amLife does go on.
The Bush administration did as much or more to terrorize Americans than al-Qaeda. Remember the frequent, politically-timed terror alerts?
May 18th, 2009 at 11:14 amI’m sorry. I must have missed the memo stating that Dana was relevant.
Dayum these weekends where I spend the majority of the days outside!
May 18th, 2009 at 11:17 amEvery time we talk about torture, a terrorist rubs his hands together and goes “he he he”, while baby Jesus cries.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:23 amIsn’t it amazing how Perino, as well as her fellow conservatives always seem to know exactly what is on the minds of “the terrorists?” She should work for the CIA instead of spewing for Fox. With her precognitive insight she could be Director of Minority Reports.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:25 am“Perino: ‘The terrorists are having a field day’ when we talk about torture.”
By all accounts, this was the intended result of torture ya stupid c*nt.
Thanks Shrub!
May 18th, 2009 at 11:27 amI just read a shocking report on Obama’s War escalation and his choice of the Terrosist and murderer Stanley McChrystal to comand their military empire escalation in Afehganistan. Obama has totaly lost me! He is continuing the US’s murderous foreigner policies, Bush’s criminal military tribunals.
Stanley McChrystal was Chenney’s secret squadrom of assassination which is responsible for the killings of the resistence to US criminal policies.
“Cheney’s Chief Assassin Is Now Obama’s Commander in Afghanistan”
as per what that air head bimbo has to say… it is sad to see TP waisting space on no News. Perino talking and dog sh**#ting is the same thing.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:31 amIf Bush Co. hadn’t resorted to torture then none of this would be taking place so the fact that we used torture in the first place is giving terrorists ammunition in their drive to recruit more terrorists. Ironic ain’t it? Too bad Perino isn’t smart enough to see the irony.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:33 amUncle Ho Says:
Tweedster:
Chill, man.
It’s only a game.
You really want a bummer?
The Mighty Michigan Wolverines(3-9), had their 1st losing season in football in 41 years. Try topping that.
You got me beat there, but after suffering the death of Reggie Lewis and the decade of crap basketball the C’s have put together it was awesome to see them field a great team last year. The fact that they were seriously depleted by injuries just kind of stinks. Ah well, there’s always next year.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:43 amThe terrorists could not have dreamed of better allies than George W. Bush and Richard Cheney. Osama bin Laden’s stated goal was to bring America to it’s knees through financial ruin. Mission accomplished neocon scum! Turning his back on bin Laden (old family friend)and the fight in Afghanistan to chase after a war of choice based on lies and driven by the prospect of oil money helped al Queda in ways that bin Laden could never have imagined. Starting up an official WH backed torture program at Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and various satellite prisons with the sole intent of coercing false confessions in order to justify their intrusion into Iraq, one that detained mostly innocent Muslims who no doubt underwent torture at the hands of outsourced interrogators was THE greatest recruiting tool for al Queda. Bush/Cheney squandered trillions of borrowed dollars in their pursuit of war profits for corporate friends, ignored a collapsing domestic economy, killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, gleefully tortured more innocents to back-up their Iraqi war effort AND suspended Constitutional guarentees of both Habias Corpus and individual privacy while lying to the American populace and Congress the whole time. Dana, I would say that your former bosses did more to aid terrorism and fuel al Queda than anyone or anything else in this Godforsaken world fool!
May 18th, 2009 at 11:44 amDoodlebug Shayne Says:
Come to Chicago, we’re used to losing. We just never let it interfere with the party. :=)
Rex Grossman should have replaced Blago as governor. People in Illinois would have gotten super serious about reforming their state government if that had happened.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:45 amWe have heard more from this ‘witch’ since her boss was replaced then in ALL the time he was in the WH, what is up with that?
May 18th, 2009 at 11:46 amNuremburg wasn’t that great for the Nazi brand either but necessary nonetheless. After all the damage they have done to the world the bushapologists shouldn’t have access to the media megaphones to defend their atrocities. Seig heil, Dana!
May 18th, 2009 at 11:47 amWe had al Queda on the run and Osama bin Laden boxed in in 2002. There was NO al Queda in Iraq in 2002. Bush/Cheney pulled the lion’s share of resources from Afghanistan in order to begin their illegal war for profit in Iraq. This allowed bin Laden his unfettered (and continued)freedom, Afghanistan based al Queda flourished all but undettered for six years while a sympathetic faction formed in Iraq to counter an illegal occupancy by an invading US Army. Solely due to Bush/Cheny’s ineptitude al Queda is now a bigger threat than they were in 2001. What were you saying Dana?
May 18th, 2009 at 11:48 amOsama bin Laden has been playing chess while George W. Bush choked on a pretzel while working on his coloring books. Thankfully America now has a President who seems to play a mean game of chess himself.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:51 amPeople that blow themselves up probably don’t have field days, or watch C-Span, or are on any common wavelength with Miss Dana Perino.
I don’t speak for anyone, but I can imagine there are a few folks in other countries relieved to find that America has a conscience.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:56 amHow wierd that Perino would call her fellow republicans terrorists??
May 18th, 2009 at 12:01 pmOS Says:
Like a child who walks into a movie after it’s already started…
May 18th, 2009 at 12:09 pmPerino thinks the terrorists are having a field day with our talk of torture memos?
Sounds like the sort of thing only someone who’s in communication with terrorists would know…
Anything you wanna admit, there, Barbie?
May 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm“the terrorists”
Whoever the f uck they are.
I can’t believe these idiots are not only on television, but that there are dipshts actually watching at home.
May 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pmThat’s just you, Dana.
You and your Boss gave them everything they could dream of,
in a perky, bobbed-blonde package.
Where should they address their thank-you notes??
May 18th, 2009 at 12:29 pmNo hussy, things like this.
Please hussy go away with your bimbo self.
May 18th, 2009 at 12:44 pmHe’s like Donny in The Big Lebowski.
May 18th, 2009 at 12:47 pmwait wait I thought it wasn’t torture Dana? Can’t have it both ways. What helped the terrorists was the Bush administration doing it in the first place. It basically justified how awful they thought America was in this first place. I’m so happy Obama stopped this crap. Now if only they’d all go to prison :)
OT sorta: but does anyone else even think Dick Cheney has the balls to survive prison? Not to be crude but I have a feeling he’d off himself like the coward he is before he even served a day.
May 18th, 2009 at 1:02 pmHow would Dana Perino know what the terrorists are doing? She must be one of them. How’s that old saying go… “It takes one to know one?” Perino must be in collusion with the terrorist in order to state that the “terrorist are having a field day.”
May 18th, 2009 at 1:17 pmIt occurs to me that Faux collectively has the intellect of a teenage girl having a conversation with her best friend. “You think I am pretty buffy? Oh your so pretty Candy. You think so? Yea, your so pretty.”
May 18th, 2009 at 1:23 pmCheck out Perino’d in teh Urban Dictionary! Hilarious…
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=perino%27d&defid=3549959
May 18th, 2009 at 1:28 pmSomething just occurred to me…does Fox News play overseas? I can imagine it would be real popular in dem terrorist countries. Nothing like having a bunch of Americans blabbing hate speak to get people to love us. But, of course, the rest of the world doesn’t pay any attention to that sort of stuff.
Just ask Weiner.
May 18th, 2009 at 1:51 pmGreat point Hoodathunktick, the terrorist would get mad about Americans trying to rectify the problems but they won’t get angy when Fox talks about how they had it coming.
May 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pmPerino is now a specialist on torture because she was once White House parrot.
And I am a brain surgeon because I know how to turn a screwdriver.
May 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pmI apologize if someone wrote this already (haven’t had time to read all posts yet), but let me get what the conservatives are saying here:
1) If we torture prisoners (proven by admission or pictures), then we aid in recruiting terrorists, because they have something more to hate us for.
2) If we don’t torture prisoners then we aid in recruiting terrorists, because they won’t fear us for the torture that they can’t know about else issue #1 kicks in.
3) If we discuss what constitutes torture then we aid in recruiting terrorists, because they have something more to hate us for.
Hmmm….
May 18th, 2009 at 2:43 pmI didn’t realize that Dana has her finger on the pulse of the “Terrorists” and knows exactly what they are thinking at any moment! Surely she would have better served our country with the CIA or State department, instead of just being the simple minded spokesliar for “W”. Who knew?
May 18th, 2009 at 2:48 pmBut but but they terrorists hate us for our freedoms, such as speech.
Why is Perino against free speech?
May 18th, 2009 at 3:01 pmThe terrorists hate us because we allow women to run around without burkas and talk on the teevee!!
/snark
May 18th, 2009 at 3:02 pmYeah, she’s a expert. Actually, Dana, what really pisses off the terrorists (i.e., to you…Muslims) is the fact that we actually PERFORM torture, not just talk about it.
Get a life.
May 18th, 2009 at 3:20 pmI’m really sick of these Republican dumb blonds.
IF the terrorists are having a “field day”, it’s not because we’re talking about torture, it’s because they manipulated us into abandoning our principles by engaging in torture.
May 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pmOS Says:
Parse much?
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Moron ALWAYS?
May 18th, 2009 at 3:57 pmShe’s just a shrill, immature, little girl who wants daddy…
May 18th, 2009 at 4:23 pmHer whole message is, Daddy Dick is gonna’ save us and make us all safe again. That’s her real self; the public persona she projects is all training no different than an actor learning their lines to convince the audience. She could be a moron, but I think she’s a mere actor who needs her role retired…it is stale, over-used, and just not cute anymore.
@9 What are the qualifications for F’s sake.
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May 19th, 2009 at 5:59 am