Since President Obama announced his goal to shut down the Guantanamo prison, conservatives have fearmongered that it would mean terrorists would be coming to Americans’ “backyards.” On the Senate floor this morning, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) said that her state’s prisons were “eminently capable” of housing detainees, and slammed conservatives for “fear-baiting”:
FEINSTEIN: Yes, we have maximum security prisons in California eminently capable of holding these people as well, and from which people — trust me — do not escape. So I believe that this has really been an exercise in fear-baiting. I hope it’s not going to be successful.
Watch it:
By contrast, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) declared that the naval brig in Charleston, SC — where officers are trained specifically to deal with terror detainees — is an unsuitable place for detainees “because it’s near a population center.” Recently, a small town in Montana voted unanimously to request that 100 detainees be sent to its empty prison, as a way to stimulute economic development.
These coward are so quick to torture people, but scared shitless to imprison them in their states. It’s time to practice secret rendition on torture apologist and supporters to help show them how it feels.
RIP
May 20th, 2009 at 12:25 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
flip flop Feinstein?
don’t worry…..she’ll reverse her advocacy once she gets her thinking points from AIPAC
May 20th, 2009 at 12:25 pmThe world thnks we are cowards. We start wars we can’t finish. We capture ‘enemies’ we can’t prosecute. We jail people without an ‘end game’. The world is laughing at us. We used to be so strong and brave. Sigh…..
May 20th, 2009 at 12:29 pmYou mean we don’t have the most secure prisons in the world here in the United States???
May 20th, 2009 at 12:31 pmWhere are the GOPers that are constantly calling for state’s rights? If a patriotic governor agrees to take a number of the detainees and hold them in their prison he/she should be thanked and obliged. What are these Congress pussies so afraid of? They should be stating that “of course we are capable of housing these detainees, that’s what maximum security is for for chrissakes!” Instead we get a bunch of cowards and their appeasers whining “not in my backyard!” What a pack of pansies we have running our government. They are pathetic in that they can’t see that the terrorists win when you give in to fear. Christ doesn’t Dickman Cheney own a few prisons himself? He created this boondoggle so why isn’t he stepping up and doing the patriotic thi….oh, that’s right this is Dick Show-me-the-money Cheney I’m talking about. Nevermind.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:31 pmCould it be the Repugs made another mistake? By bashing Nancy, they have opened up a new can of worms. Now everyone is calling for an investigation which will be more damaging to the Repugs, Now, they are acting like scared children. Jesus, these Gitmo guys aren’t Magneto! LOL! What cowards.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:32 pmAh — another rational voice heard from. Even though the trolls will be here any minute to remind us of Feinstein’s husband’s business interests.
Meanwhile, add Senator Graham to the side of the loonies. He’s saying that the naval bring in Charleston is unsuitable because “it’s near a population center”. Well, so is Alcatraz. Perhaps Feinstein can give Graham some stats about escapes and the safety of San Franciscans during the years Alcatraz was in operation.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:33 pmI had relatives that lived in Moorhead Minnesota during WWII and she remembered walking by make shift prison camps holding NAZI Officers on her way to school. Never did a NAZI Officer escape despite the local headlines that saying that they held “the worst of the worst”.
Americans know how to build prisons. And we know how to keep hold of them. The Republican talking points are pure punk and demeaning to the people who know the truth.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:35 pmThink about what they are saying: We jail more citizens per capita than any other country – including China and Russia, but we cannot keep our citizens safe from the hundreds of thousands of convicts? Why put them in jail if you are going to scared anyway? I thought the idea of jail was to remove some fear that the convicts couldn’t commit anymore crimes.
But still we are afraid…..It is a sad day for America.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:35 pmi’m fine with “waiting for a plan”…
just glad those few have spoken up for prison workers…
i do wonder how harry felt about his fellow senators speaking out –
May 20th, 2009 at 12:36 pmbasically the opposite of what HE said yesterday…
You know, Alcatraz ain’t a bad idea….If it’s in any kind of shape to accept prisoners….
May 20th, 2009 at 12:37 pmI agree with Feinstein. If it were another country holding our “combatents” without due process and without an end in sight, we would bomb the hell out of them. Moreover, we have some of the most violent criminals on earth housed safely in our prisons. So the only reason we do not want them on our soil is because we would have to afford them due process, access to family and potential access to the press. In other words, we do not want anyone to know the full extent of their treatment and/or possible innocence. Shame on us!
May 20th, 2009 at 12:38 pmForget the detainees for a minute, what I wan’t to know is where are we going to house the Bushco criminals when Gitmo gets shut down. Republicon traitors in US prisons? Not in MY backyard! I’ll take a few dozen detainees over repiglican traitors anyday!
May 20th, 2009 at 12:38 pmCalifornia’s financial problems will seemingly require the reduction of the indigenous prison population, despite the threats of the Prison Guards union.
So the detainee-prisoners would be a financial windfall, since their stay in California would necessaril;y be underwritten by the Feds…
So there will be plenty of space there, as all the immorally imprisoned pot-users get released.
But yes, the Congress is GUTLESS!
May 20th, 2009 at 12:38 pmThe naval brig in Charleston is unsuitable because it’s near a population center?
Who the fu(k located it there in the first place, if it was going to prove an unsuitable location for housing prisoners?
And why wasn’t it unsuitable for housing enemy combatants like Yasser Hamdi, José Padilla and Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri?
May 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pmPrisoners R US(ofA)
May 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pmStratRat Says:
The world thnks we are cowards. We start wars we can’t finish. We capture ‘enemies’ we can’t prosecute. We jail people without an ‘end game’. The world is laughing at us. We used to be so strong and brave. Sigh…..
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Strat – ‘used to’ or ‘usdta’ DIED years ago in the 1950s. It’s truly a shame that we no longer excel in any endeavor; no good autos with gas mileage that exceeds more than 35 mph – so China is beating us there. No energy innovations that could put us on top again – I suspect China will again win on this. And no inventions of ANYTHING that could put us out front. It appears fruitless and yet I know we are NOT stupid.
So I believe that this has really been an exercise in fear-baiting. said Feinstein
She was right about this, but then screws up by voting AGAINST her own words and us. Is it something in the water at the Senate that causes all these people to become stupid?
May 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pmI believe Alcatraz would have to be more or less completely rebuilt in order to be certified to house prisoners of any kind.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:40 pmLet’s see, $ 80,000,000 (slated for moving the detainees) divided by 200 (detainees) = $ 400,000 per prisoner. It’s Feinstein (Republican of California) who thought it might just be the thing to do? Dems are so smart at times.
G od Damn It We Don’t Torture
O kay, we do but it works
P elosi knew so it’s okay
I am still trying to figure, if it’s the GOP’s game plan to go after Pelosi for knowing something about torture that is supposed to be a good thing (for those who wrap themselves in the American flag and use 9/11 as their war cry) to protect us, what would be wrong if Nancy didn’t say anything if she knew something about it?
What does “Rush” think?
May 20th, 2009 at 12:41 pmUpdate: The amendment barring the use of funds to transfer detainees to the U.S. was approved 90 to 6. Both Sens. Feinstein and Durbin — despite their arguments that the U.S. is “eminently capable” of housing detainees — voted in favor of the amendment.
Seriously, I am so sick of politicians and their games.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:41 pmLet’s see……..I believe the following “worst of the worst” have been successfully incarcerated in California prisons (and some still are): Charles Manson, Sirhan Sirhan, Squeaky Fromme, Juan Corona, Erik Menendez–to name a few. I do believe they were are are incarcerated without incident and did not get loose and go on any killing sprees. Chill, America……most of these “worst of the worst” just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. They’re not gonna hurt anybody………they’ve been tortured too much–they’re pretty much emasculated.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:41 pmWhat a group a fearful men. They remind me of Dick Cheney(I think good ole Dick lost his marbles after the 911 attacks). I have never seen a group so paranoid in my life. These are men, not alien super breeds, they don’t have cosmic powers. They are a group of fanatics. And we don’t even know who did what, where and how. Hell, we don’t even know if these guys are guilty or not. Incarcerate them in the U.s. and hold hearings. That’s the American way.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:44 pmRalph the wonder locust says:I believe Alcatraz would have to be more or less completely rebuilt in order to be certified to house prisoners of any kind
Nah……if past performance is indicative of future behavior, we can just transfer them there and put an electric fence around the island and voila! They’re secure. It’s not like we treated them to feather beds and silk sheets in Gitmo. And, after all, Americans want them to continue to be punished and punished and punished (although many if not most are guilty of nothing) so we can assuage our conscience and feel like patriots. THAT will sure make us safe!!
May 20th, 2009 at 12:46 pmStrat – ‘used to’ or ‘usdta’ DIED years ago in the 1950s.
She was right about this, but then screws up by voting AGAINST her own words and us. Is it something in the water at the Senate that causes all these people to become stupid?
I guess I do pine for the days when America’s words and deeds were respected and emulated. I guess that is another ‘quaint notion’ which has gone by the wayside.
To your question, fear – and the fear of being painted as a weak and ‘un-serious’ person – has created a problem for the congresscritters. We should look to replacing these folks if they cannot separate themselves from the GOP fraidy cats.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:46 pmThe GOP talks like these so-called terrorists are some kind of supermen that our prisons are no match for and we should all run and hide in terror quaking under the covers.
I think these cowards are projecting.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:47 pmShe is right, this rhetoric about housing detainees is fear bating, plain and simple. CA does house some of the worse murderers, as do several max security prisons in the midwest and the east coast. Pelican Bay in Northern CA comes to mind. And San Quentin isn’t holding leftovers from a drunken bar brawl either. That prison is in San Rafeal CA which is a beautiful coastal city.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:49 pmThe amendment barring the use of funds to transfer detainees to the U.S. was approved 90 to 6.
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Pff, no problem. When the time comes to transfer detainees to the U.S. we’ll probably be on the barter system anyway.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:49 pmalcatraz is a tourist attraction these days…
i couldn’t go there, but my daughter went, and was impressed with all it represented, formerly and presently…
May 20th, 2009 at 12:50 pmRight wingers are PUSSIES and they are PUSSYFYING our country!
What a bunch of cowards!
May 20th, 2009 at 12:50 pmBut the terrursts will swim from Cuba cause its in our backyard!!!
And and and Osama Bin Laden is still on the LOOSE!!
May 20th, 2009 at 12:50 pmHow come NOW Congress wants a plan before they fund something. Where were they when Bush started his little war without a plan??
Oh yeah, they got voted out…..
May 20th, 2009 at 12:51 pm.
Sissy Grahm said what…?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3vH4umQIE4
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May 20th, 2009 at 12:52 pmGlogrrl, why Erik and not Lyle Menendez?–Lyle was a tad more sinister, IMHO.
These cowards don’t want their future opponents to have the golden campaign ammo of: Sen X brought terrorists to our state!
May 20th, 2009 at 12:54 pmWhen is Robert Mueller, STILL the Director of the FBI, going to be replaced? He’s been in that position since one week prior to Sept. 11, 2001. He also happens to agree that prisoners from GITMO shouldn’t be transferred to the U.S. I just believe that all these people are deeply afraid to have these individuals exposed to the American justice system where their true innocence or guilt can be determined. Trying to avoid the truth in order to avoid embarassment. If these people had been in charge back in 1945, there would have been no Nuremberg trials because it would have held an entire government accountable for their wrongdoing and set the precedent for doing so.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:55 pmOh oh might the dems collectively grow enough of a spine to vote ona meeaningless resolution commendating american correctional officers and expressing confidence in thier ability to keep thier prisons safe from any sort of criminals they may contain?
could we be so lucky
May 20th, 2009 at 12:59 pmRalph the wonder locust says:I believe Alcatraz would have to be more or less completely rebuilt in order to be certified to house prisoners of any kind.
Well then, we could provide them with training to refurbish their new digs. They would probably do a better job than KBR.
May 20th, 2009 at 12:59 pmAmerica is the world’s biggest prison. We have more AMericans under lock and key than even the Chinese communist government. And China has four times as many people as we do.
I think that we should let all the detainees that have been imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay prison go home. Credit them with time served. Seven years of torture is more than enough. Seven years served without having an contact with the outside world, or defense attorneys is punishment enough. Is it a crime for Afghanis to fight against invading imperial occupiers? News to me.
May 20th, 2009 at 1:01 pmHas anyone seen or does anyone know the physical status of these detainees? They’ve been down there in a hole for 6 years or so fasting and getting the crap beaten out of them.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/140022/little_known_military_thug_squad_still_brutalizing_prisoners_at_gitmo_under_obama/
Maybe the govt doesn’t want us to see these brutalized purgatorians[sic]?
May 20th, 2009 at 1:02 pmjust heard on APradio news – they’re saying that vote against funding the transfer is a “huge setback for obama”…
imagine that…
May 20th, 2009 at 1:03 pmCue preparation for another Hollywood blockbuster: Jihad: Terrorists Break Out of Lompoc to Attack LA!
May 20th, 2009 at 1:11 pmA terrorist, a pariah, separated from compatriots, with no bombmaking materials in maximum security prison isolation is dangerous?
Not to mention he would be one of the smaller inmates in there. Are these people afraid of back hair, a la KSM?
May 20th, 2009 at 1:12 pmI think she did the math wrong – it still doesn’t terminate the State deficit
May 20th, 2009 at 1:23 pmI live about 35minutes from Fort Leavenworth, former home of Michael Vick, and the hoopla over the idea of them coming here is downright out of hand. I dont really give two craps if they put the “terrorists” next door, because they aren’t exactly trained escape artists or the criminal masterminds that people seem to think they are.
Can you rememeber any of the times a US citizen has been held in a prison without charge in a foreign country and how crazy everyone went? We have nearly 400 foreign citizens locked up and most without charge give me a damn break.
Pat Roberts and Sam Brownback have both made similar statements to that of Lindsey Graham (shocking I know) which Jon Stewart pointed out in fine fashion last night… Give me a break people…
May 20th, 2009 at 1:23 pmMaybe you should just change the name of “Think Progress” to “Hypocrisy Watch” because you-all are fabulous at ferreting out the hypocrites — Lindsey Graham is an excellent example, but it’s hard to beat the expose’ of Pete Hoekstra you ran yesterday. Keep up the good work!
Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com
May 20th, 2009 at 1:35 pmWe have worse people, much worse people currently incarcerated in our prisons. What kind of weak crap is this? Plus, when did we become the country of the frightened and the terrified of everything? I for one don’t care where you send them, you can send them here to Dayton Ohio and it would not bother me in the least. Maybe it’s because I don’t spend my days and nights quivering in a corner worrying if “The terrorist are coming to get me”. We need to be very careful about all of this fear. That is exactly what lead to our allowing these cowards (Bush/Cheney) to get away with so much criminal behavior and it is also what motivated them to commit these crimes. If you watch the cable news chatter all one sees is Republicans in trying to defend Bush/Cheney with quotes like “Well you have to remember 911 had just happened” or You have to understand they were trying to protect the country” or “They were under a lot of pressure at that time” or “They were making decisions under extreme pressure”. All of those quotes translate into one damn sentence “WE WAS SCARED”! Where are the real men when you need them. Brave conquerors that made this country what it used to be. Where in the hell did all of these sissies come from? I firmly believe that if a person got five deferments to avoid service or his father made a way for him to get an emergency appointment to the National Guard to avoid service, that’s fine. I also firmly believe that people who do such things should be barred from elective office for life. There is nothing inherently wrong with being a coward but you should be consistent—stay a coward. That person should not be allowed to give an opinion on war-go work at the library and shut the hell up on this subject. Personally, I don’t like being around dead bodies so I have no opinion about how a funeral home should be run. I leave that subject to the experts in that field.
I am a honorably Discharged Viet Nam era Veteran and I volunteered, I did not wait to be drafted. I do not appreciate a bunch of damn cowards like Bush/Cheney/Rush expressing their “shot over their should while running away theories on how to protect a nation. They are out of their league and I would much more appreciate it if they just shut the hell up and go to a movie. Get back on the porch and let the big dogs handle this thing.
May 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pmWhat in the world do you people use for cognitive thought? Malt-o-meal? A special prison would have to be built and ran by the military some where in the US just like the one in Gitmo. Ever wonder why Maximum security prisons are usually built on islands? Do some research. But I digress……..Ok class….pay attention….I am going to use some of my valuable time to explain why accused terrorist detainees should never be held anywhere near a US prison…
Reasons: They could never be put in the “yard” with the Northern Mexicans, the Southern Mexicans, the Wood’s, Cripts, Bloods, Neo-whatevers….How would Obama explain why it was that Khaled Sheikh Mohammad got “shanked” by a Southern Mexican?????????
Drugs can’t even be kept out of US prisons!!!!!!!
The guards are corrupt!!!!!!!
A few reasons for an “International Incident”
Guards mess with Koran and any of 1000 ways.
Guards taunt detainees in any of 1000 ways such as having a cross around their necks showing while feeding the detainees.
Guard mentions he just fed his pigs before touching detainees food. Guard arranges peas in the form of a cross. Guard slips cialis in food. Use your imagination ……
Law suits-a-minute would be filed….
Research “discovery” and its ramifications for both sides as it pertains to law. (which would take days)
The endless protests outside the prison.
The endless protests by other prisoners inside the prison.
US prisoners, with life, would try to find ways to be the first one to kill a detainee 24/7…the Guards and their Union would be battling the management endlessly because of the over work and unusual circumstances.
Obama is a lawyer, he knows the absolute nightmare, 24/7 that he would have to deal with if these people were on US soil.
May 20th, 2009 at 2:05 pmThis makes my brain melt. If the brig is unsuitable place for prisoners, pray tell, why are American taxpayer paying to have it there?
May 20th, 2009 at 2:23 pmOh the bureaucratic nightmare, Slappy!—nevermind there might be innocent detainees in a hell-hole, being beaten in your name. Forget wrongful imprisonment and torture and abuse–difficult logistics have a special circle in Slappy’s Inferno.
May 20th, 2009 at 2:24 pmWRONG jack! None of this is about ME DA. These little “logistics” as you mention would be Obama’s problem. He does not need and more problems.
May 20th, 2009 at 2:28 pmWe house some of the most dangerous, violent people here in California. Really some suspected terrorists aren’t going to be a problem.
I’m fine with them waiting on a plan as that isn’t a bad idea but I don’t know if I actually believe that’s really what the intent was.
May 20th, 2009 at 2:32 pmAnd China has four times as many people as we do.
well, to be fair, they execute a lot more of theirs than we do…
just sayin…
May 20th, 2009 at 2:33 pmkdgamergirl Says:
We house some of the most dangerous, violent people here in California.
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It not about the danger the detainees would pose to a US citizen, guard or prisoner.
Its what would the ramifications be to the U.S. from the rest of the world if a US prison could not protect the detainees and a couple of them were killed, or injured by California prison guards or other US prisoners.
May 20th, 2009 at 2:42 pmSlappyMoron if I used cigarette ash for a brain it would still function a lot better than yours. No maximum security prisons are NOT usually built on islands you ignorant piece of human debris. One of the most famous ones Levenworth IS IN KANSAS. They hold the unibomber the man is a genius, a warped insane genius. But they cant hold halfwits whose families are still herding GOATS? MY GOD you are stupid.
Reason one. STUPID. We have the guys who did the first terrorist bombing of the WTC in prison none of them have been killed that I know of. We have the same problem with child molesters and we handle that.
Yes drugs get in to prisons but so WHAT? When is the last time you heard of anyone ESCAPING from a supermas prison? If these guys take drugs while they are in there who in the world cares.
Your idiocy about guards with crosses shows that you arent serious just a very disturbed punkass troll with no functioning brainpan who has deluded himself into thinking he is clever instead of realizing you are stupid and pathetic.
Protests? We cant do something because of protests? I notice that didnt keep us out of the war. You have GOT to be kidding
Prisoners would try to kill them like prisoners try to kill other prisoners all the time. Yeah thats a GREAT reason we cant do it.
Your post was one of the stupidest I have ever seen. You are a joke just not a funny one. A sad and pathetic one
May 20th, 2009 at 2:42 pmDebbi….calm down and google “island prisons”. I never made one mention of “escape”. Your not thinking…… is it OK to house the detainees in a 5 x 9 cells 24/7 not having been convicted of anything? Isn’t the cruel and unusual punishment.
May 20th, 2009 at 2:49 pmTHINK Debbi! Your posts will make more sence.
SlappyMoron my posts DO make sense you are just too stupid to understand simple logic. I didnt SAY there were NO Island prisosn but MOST of them are NOT on Islands like you claimed. MORON this is pretty simple. Whatever logistical problems there are with holding international terrorists as prisoners we are ALREADY FACING THEM. The WTC terrorists are IN USE PRISONS. I dont believe for one second the world would shed a tear if a CONVICTED terrorist got killed in prison by another prisoner. YOU have no way of knowing what would happen your entire argument was WORLD CLASS STUPID.
May 20th, 2009 at 2:58 pmRalph the wonder locust says:I believe Alcatraz would have to be more or less completely rebuilt in order to be certified to house prisoners of any kind.
Well, Guantánamo was (re)built to house these prisoners, and rebuilding an Alcatraz building probably would cost less than the “embassy” in Iraq…
And, about realeasing prisoners in the USA, I ask to the idiots that think that: how many prisoners have been freed in the streets of Cuba?
May 20th, 2009 at 3:10 pmOh, and bureaucratic nightmare, Slappy? Maybe because letting these prisoners in a prison that isn’t even in USA land isn’t a bureaucratic and diplomatic problem already?
May 20th, 2009 at 3:13 pmMaybe she needs to tell whineybutt reid that.
May 20th, 2009 at 3:23 pmAh, TP according to the Senate website, Durbin voted NO on the amendment not Yes.
May 20th, 2009 at 3:40 pmThis from the ThinkFast thread:
If those who are only being held because of these associations with Al Qaeda or the Taliban are released, how many will be left?
May 20th, 2009 at 5:17 pmHarry said NO, NO and NO to the closing of Gitmo so all debate has ended and the Bush doctrine lives on………
May 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pmOBAMA and liberals will be the downfall of the U.S.A.
May 21st, 2009 at 6:18 am“GODBLESS THE U.S.A”
W T F???
YOU’VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!
California state prisons,& county jails, are OVERFLOWING!
We have a deficit of such a size,that our Governor is cutting back the main essentials-our school’s program,teachers,-hell education period! Major programs-the poison control system,county jobs,state park upkeep,etc.
And who,says,we can do what,with these prisoners???
Why not open up your basements, & houses to them,if you want to look like the goody,two-shoed,concerned good samaratins?
We already have our streets over run by gang violence,Oakland must be the murder capitol,for sure.
Get a grip people in our state capital!
Worry about what’s going on already in our(California’s) own backyards & streets,before burdening the state & the people who live here, with more reason for contraversy!
You guys in Sacramento need to take it easier on whatever’s the office water cooler, & open your eyes & take a real look at the REAL WORLD!!
May 21st, 2009 at 8:57 amI am not too worried about the Gitmo guys breaking out of our prisons (but it is possible). I am bit more worried about “friends” on the outside helping them to break out. I am worried a lot about our legal system releasing them inside our borders. Or are we going to hold them in our prisons without charges or trial until they die of natural causes?
May 21st, 2009 at 9:05 amHey-wait a minute! I just thought of a solution! Send them all to Mexico! If the drug cartel lets them 10 feet beyond the border,then they will only make it about another 5, before the rival cartel gangs put them out!
May 21st, 2009 at 9:07 amwiley Says: This from the ThinkFast thread:
U.S. District Court Judge John Bates ruled that while members of al Qaeda or the Taliban could be detained, “mere support for Al Qaeda activities is not a sufficient basis for the government to hold prisoners at Guantanamo Bay or elsewhere.”
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EXXX-CUUUUSE ME???
Mere U.S. citizens,are detained for days for no other reason then a cop saying,’UH…looks like probable cause.Put your hands behind your back.”
I got stopped for only riding my bicycle home last night from the bingo hall!
May 21st, 2009 at 9:14 amI’m going on 54 & looked suspicious riding down the road after 11PM.
ROTFLMAO!!!