Sorry, but you are wrong yet again. Critics of the Gitmo detention facility are NOT claiming it is run with the highest standards and best meals — that is what the conservative supporters are claiming, over, and over, and over again.

Critics are certainly not saying that: or, more to the point, can you offer a list of names of those who are clearly Gitmo CRITICS who clearly and specifically make claims as you say?

I thought not.

You truly show your ignorance with this statement:

Gitmo is the biggest disgrace to this country since slavery.

Club Gitmo is a $200mil state of the art detention facility that EVEN IT’S CRITICS admit is being run with the highest standards and regard to the detainees’ well-being, i.e. halal meals, Korans delivered with GLOVES on, excellent medical care, etc.

Get a clue, seriously.

In order to bring these men here from Gitmo, we would be forced to do what should have been done before. Release non violent pot users.

Another thing, some of these men may be innocent. Just think of how many of them were taken and jailed. Bounty’s were paid to anyone turning in a so called terrorist. Some towns and villages got rid of those they did not like, by turning in these men. Gitmo had to release hundreds over the years. So all of these men will have to be tried at long last.

Now think of all these men that turn out to be terrorists. Banding together and with other violent men in jail. What a load of dynamite for these guards to control. And the things they will learn from one another. Military guards, civilian guards or a mix of the two? Think of the extra ordinary facilities that will need to be specially built to house these men. Bush has left another mess for this President to clean up. He and Cheney made this debacle and now they both walk away.

It is difficult to use logic in these circumstances. But we have to. We must try them one at a time. It will take years to sort out the mess.

May 21st, 2009 at 12:39 pm
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That’s some artful dodging indeed – well done!

So, if I’m parsing your response correctly, a bad socialist system run by bad people is is bad, but a good socialist run by good people might be good.

In other words, it’s no different than a pure capitalist system. It depends who is in charge of it – is it Deng Xiaoping or Augusto Pinochet? Or is it the reanimated corpses of Milton Friedman and Dick Cheney?

If zombies ran the government then capitalism wouldn’t be so bad. Actually if everyone were zombies you wouldn’t n-BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNSSSSSSSSSS

In the midst of all these challenges, however, my single most important responsibility as President is to keep the American people safe. That is the first thing that I think about when I wake up in the morning. It is the last thing that I think about when I go to sleep at night.

This responsibility is only magnified in an era when an extremist ideology threatens our people, and technology gives a handful of terrorists the potential to do us great harm. We are less than eight years removed from the deadliest attack on American soil in our history. We know that al Qaeda is actively planning to attack us again. We know that this threat will be with us for a long time, and that we must use all elements of our power to defeat it.

Already, we have taken several steps to achieve that goal. For the first time since 2002, we are providing the necessary resources and strategic direction to take the fight to the extremists who attacked us on 9/11 in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We are investing in the 21st century military and intelligence capabilities that will allow us to stay one step ahead of a nimble enemy. We have re-energized a global non-proliferation regime to deny the world’s most dangerous people access to the world’s deadliest weapons, and launched an effort to secure all loose nuclear materials within four years. We are better protecting our border, and increasing our preparedness for any future attack or natural disaster.

I voted for Barack Obama because I think that he is sincere about bringing change to America. I also realize that the CHANGE would not come easy and would not come without a fight. I’m a realist – the President doesn’t have an EASY button or a MAGIC button that he can press and make change happen in the blink of an eye. I refuse to listen to people who want to imply or just say Obama is continuing Bush’s policies or back pedaling. That’s just ridiculous. He’s got to go thru the House & the Senate – both of which have obstructionists who are determined to stop progress. It’s unrealistic to expect all of America’s problems with torture & gitmo to be solved in less than 6 months. You’d have to be either crazy or just stupid to think that.

You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You trolls make me sick with your toxic spew.

Obama’s civil liberties speech

Obama’s speech this morning, like most Obama speeches, made pretty points in rhetorically effective ways about the Constitution, our values, transparency, oversight, the state secrets privilege, and the rule of law. But his actions, in many critical cases, have repeatedly run afoul of those words. And while his well-crafted speech can have a positive impact on our debate and contained some welcome and rare arguments from a high-level political leader — changes in the terms of the debate are prerequisites to changes in policy and the value of rhetoric shouldn’t be understated — they’re still just words until his actions become consistent with them.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/21/obama/index.html

I suspect that your IQ is in the room temperature range because you really don’t have any idea what you are talking about.

The only “debate that is over” is Congress immediately giving funding to close Gitmo. There has been zero decision regarding keeping it open.

I have a suggestion for you. Call your local JC and see if they have a class in Critical Thinking. If they do, take the class because you sure need it.

As usual, in your incessant quest to slime President Obama, you missed the part in his speech where he said that he expects the Justice Department to punish people who violated the law. I believe that would include those who authorized torture. Since you missed it, here’s the direct quote.

The Department of Justice and our courts can work through and punish any violations of our laws.

Cheney speech reportedly refers to 9/11 25 times

I stepped outside for a minute and my neighbor was blasting someone from radio saying, “9/11, 9/11″ over and over again and when I began to listen a little more closely I realized it was Cheney’s speech at the AEI.

I think it may have been Rush playing it because I think I heard his voice at one point. Cheney’s droning, doom and gloom voice, interspersed with pats on his own back, sent me running back inside in no time.

So why, Mr. President, aren’t you doing your Constitutional duty to uphold the laws of The United States of America?

Your Justice Department has the obligation to prosecute the War Criminals that terrorised America out of the White House for 8 years.

“Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! ”

/Snark points to those who get the reference.