Last night, “an elaborate sting operation” resulted in the arrest of four men accused of plotting to bomb a synagogue and shoot down airplanes. The New York City Police Commissioner said the four men “stated that they wanted to commit jihad,” and said the men were part of a “homegrown terrorism” movement. Given conservatives’ recent hysterical declarations that U.S. prisons are unfit to handle terrorist suspects, Hilzoy challenges the right wing’s talking points in regards to the imprisonment of these “homegrown” terrorists:
This raises the difficult question: what should we do with these would-be terrorists while they await trial? And if they are convicted, what then? I assume that if it’s too dangerous to move people at Guantanamo to the United States, it must be much too dangerous to allow these jihadists to run loose in our prisons. After all, they might provide financing for other jihadists from their supermax cells, or radicalize other prisoners, or use special Terrorist Mind Control Techniques to create a whole army of brainwashed convicts under their complete control.
I read an article somewhere this morning with the attitude “these idiot amateurs posed no serious threat”.
…has a nice Rovian ring to it.
I’ll try to find and post link.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:00 amRun for the hills!!! We’re all gonna DIE!!!!!
May 21st, 2009 at 11:01 amUnder the wingnut dichotomy, these guys are “just criminals”. I am sure Sean Insanity and the rest of the nutbag brigade can offer a cogent explanation.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:05 amI pasted a link in the Thinkfast, but it belongs better here:
NYC police: Terror suspects wanted to commit jihad
May 21st, 2009 at 11:06 amWe had better get to the bottom of these known unknowns pronto. Somebody rush them off to Gitmo and strap them to a board. Maybe they know where Iraqs wmds are. Maybe they can finally substantiate Dick Cheney’s assertions of Iraq’s complicity with al Qaida. It’s not too late Dick, we’ll clear your good name yet!
May 21st, 2009 at 11:07 amI find the timing of this suspicious. Are these guys credible? Are they in the same league as the Sears Tower guys? And if they caught them, doen’t that mean that Obama gets credit because he is Prez. now? How did they get the information. Until somebody tells all the facts, I will remain skeptical.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:07 amonly cowardly pansies think AMERICA is too weak to imprison terrorists
May 21st, 2009 at 11:08 amThey were amateur idiots carrying nothing but duds. I think we can handle them.
– - They said their first target choice – the World Trade Center – had already been hit. Yeah, these guys may get off with an insanity plea.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:10 amCon4Prog sed:
“…But, the official added, “It’s not exactly Al Qaeda.” ”
What’s your point? They’re not al Qaeda.
So…are ONLY al Qaeda operatives terrorists? Nobody else? Is that your point?
And…if you think we’re not counting the dead soldiers under Obama, as you insisted on a previous thread…then I guess you’re with me in insisting the following:
Bring them home now. Today. Pull out of Iraq AND Afghanistan. That way, Obama can release those photos–without putting them in danger.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:11 amHow soon until CFP pees his pants in fear
o, too late
May 21st, 2009 at 11:13 amWould it be correct to suggest that the NYPD gets the credit for finding and arresting this group? Does that not fall into the “normal law enforcement channels” category? Did they get an assist from the NSA and the DHS?
Remind me again why we need BushCo’s lovely, bloated new government agency called th Dept. of Homeland Security?
PEACE
May 21st, 2009 at 11:16 amKudos to the FBI and New York Police for foiling this attack. And I can find nothing in the linked article that suggests this was accomplished through waterboarding.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:16 amSuper max prisons are design so prisoners cannot interact with each other. The right wingnuts are will say anything if they can turn it into slam on Obama. They only tool they have left is fear. They hope for Obama’s failure in the economy, and in national security. If there is another terror attack they will be giving each other “high-fives” celebrating avoiding the death of their party. It is possible that the longest legacy of the Bush administration is that he killed his own party. The weapons that Bush used were hyprcrisy and incompetence. We know what happens when a smirking cheerleader frat boy, who couldn’t get a job managing a car wash without his Daddy, becomes President. In 20 years or so a new 2nd party will emerge.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:17 amConservativeForProgress Says
May 21st, 2009 at 11:06 am
They were amateur idiots carrying nothing but duds. I think we can handle them.
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The fact they were carrying duds is a moot point — they BELIEVED they were carrying and planting real bombs.
But even if they had been carrying real bombs, I still think we can handle their trial and incarceration.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:19 amConservativeForProgress Says:
How soon until the ACLU and CAIR step up to defend these men?
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Payen occasionally attended a Newburgh mosque. His statements on Islam often had to be corrected, according to Assistant Imam Hamin Rashada, who met Payen through a program that helps prisoners re-enter society
The
May 21st, 2009 at 11:19 amDang, hit submit too early.
CFP, an Imam was already trying to disuade these mofos of their stupid misunderstanding of the Islam.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:20 amBloomberg warned against stereotypes, emphasizing that the temple is open to people of all faiths, including a Muslim girl who sometimes prays there.
Kelly said the temple may have been chosen because of “convenience” — it is near a highway. He said the suspects had scouted the location twice before.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:21 amConservativeForProgress Says:
“They were amateur idiots carrying nothing but duds.”
Sounds like our trolls allright, a pack of amateurs firing duds. Unfortunately CNP, these people thought that they actually had plastic explosives and a missile grenade launcher. Undercover officers luckily fooled them otherwise it could have been a true tragedy. Funny that this foiled plot was more carefully and seriously undertaken than the idiot who thought he could blow up an airport by igniting a fuel line miles away or the pach of idiots who thought they could take over a military intsallation all by themselves. Those two plots that occured on US soil under King George’s rule and have been touted ever since as true evidence of them keeping our Homeland safe. THOSE were rank amatuers CNP. THIS plan however, appears to have been quite viable if not for their mistake of purchasing arms from undercover agents.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:21 amOK — whatever happened to the “we’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here”? It always seemed somewhat absurd to me that attacking terrorists in other parts of the world was some sort of a fail-safe against nutcases here in the United States getting it into their heads to carry out a violent attack domestically.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:22 amI wouldn’t be too confident in your ability to handle “amateur idiots”, C4P. Seems to me, it’d be a pretty even match-up.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:23 amConservativeForProgress Says
May 21st, 2009 at 11:11 am
How soon until the ACLU and CAIR step up to defend these men?
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If either organization steps up in defense of these men (and that’s a BIG “if”), it will be only to ensure they get a fair trial.
I doubt either the ACLU or CAIR will defend bombing houses of worship (or anything else) or shooting down airplanes.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:25 amC4P gave us HIS APPROVAL to let us know that these people are NOT ‘really terrorists’ like al Qaeda terrorists, but rather ‘idiot terrorists’ who apparently can do ‘no harm’ [unlike Timothy McVeigh who was also home-grown].
May 21st, 2009 at 11:26 amConservativeForProgress Says:
They were amateur idiots carrying nothing but duds.
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We all know the Republican party is struggling these days, but isn’t this a bit harsh?
Michael Steele has feelings too, you know.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:26 ammisscoleopteramolly Says:
OK — whatever happened to the “we’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here”? It always seemed somewhat absurd to me that attacking terrorists in other parts of the world was some sort of a fail-safe against nutcases here in the United States getting it into their heads to carry out a violent attack domestically.
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Ideas travel oceans faster than fire. The idea of “over there” was a PR operation all the way from the begin.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:26 amCFP is just another bed-wetting coward, which is why he is so susceptible to the terrorist tactics from the right wing fear mongers
May 21st, 2009 at 11:27 amGood Lord we are the most experienced imprisoner in the history of the world. We currently have 2 million people in prison and are adding more everyday. What a bunch of weak-kneed pantywaists
May 21st, 2009 at 11:27 amPS I know imprisoner isn’t a word
Duds or no dud, an ATTEMPT at terrorism…is STILL terrorism.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:28 amComparing apples to oranges, what a moronic blog.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:29 amMadasHelinVA Says:
C4P gave us HIS APPROVAL to let us know that these people are NOT ‘really terrorists’ like al Qaeda terrorists, but rather ‘idiot terrorists’ who apparently can do ‘no harm’ [unlike Timothy McVeigh who was also home-grown].
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His weapon of choice was a truck full of fertilizer. So much for the CFP classification method.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:29 amonly when you and your fellow right wing cowards post
May 21st, 2009 at 11:30 amConservativeForProgress Says:
Ralph: do you have anything other than insults to contribute, or are you too, carrying nothing but duds?
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ConservativeForProgress Says:
How long are you going to pucker up and continue to kiss Pelosi’s wrinkled behind?
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Oh… the irony…
(Pssst… the answer is: prolly about as long as you intend to keep YOUR head up Cheney’s wrinkled, flabbly …)
May 21st, 2009 at 11:30 amConservativeForProgress Says:
How soon until the ACLU and CAIR step up to defend these men?
May 21st, 2009 at 11:11 am
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Why shouldn’t they? Do they not deserve all the civil rights afforded to criminal suspects by the Constitution?
I doubt that either organization would defend their motives, but both should look carefully into how the case came about and whether entrapment played any role.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:31 amConservativeForProgress Says:
Yet, Obama is ratcheting up the fight “over there” in Afghanistan and Pakistan. How to you feel about that MissMolly?
(just out of curiosity, what is the intended meaning of the middle part of your name? — thanks)
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May 21st, 2009 at 11:31 amJohnM Says:
Comparing apples to oranges, what a moronic blog.
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hehe… kinda ’splains why you keep coming back, huh?
May 21st, 2009 at 11:31 amThey will say that those people were just criminals and we can take care of criminals just fine. I think their argument is that having “terrorists” in a prison in the US is dangerous because the terrorists will try to stage a jail break or something like that. Funny thing, in 6 years they haven’t tried to break them out of Gitmo.
I find it very ironic that the only city in a State that has asked to have the detainees sent there is Montana, Cheney’s home state.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:32 amKettle, ConservativeForProgress Says: Ralph: do you have anything other than insults to contribute, or are you too, carrying nothing but duds?
meet Pot, ConservativeForProgress Says: How soon until the ACLU and CAIR step up to defend these men?
May 21st, 2009 at 11:32 amConservativeForProgress Says:
Yet, Obama is ratcheting up the fight “over there” in Afghanistan and Pakistan. How to you feel about that MissMolly?
(just out of curiosity, what is the intended meaning of the middle part of your name? — thanks)
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Well, President Obama has no intention of abandoning the soldiers already there, CFP. Soldiers sent by Bush and his cabal.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:34 amConservativeForProgress Says:
43. That’s not an insult. It is a legitimate question.
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And here you are, insulting our intelligence…
May 21st, 2009 at 11:35 amJohnM Says:
Comparing apples to oranges, what a moronic blog.
There’s terrorists and then there’s terrorists? Is that your point?
May 21st, 2009 at 11:35 amJohnM Says:
Comparing apples to oranges, what a moronic blog.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:29 am
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Mm-hmm. Strong words, coming from a guy who admitted that waterboarding is torture and then lied about saying it.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:35 amConservativeForProgress Says:
How soon until the ACLU and CAIR step up to defend these men?
And why shouldn’t they have representation.
Answer this CFP. Let’s say your son was in the military and was captured in Iran. They were holding him without charges and without any rights whatsoever. They were also torturing him. Wouldn’t you want someone to represent your son and fight for his rights?
I’m not expecting you to answer this question, much less answer it honestly, since you are a coward when it comes to asking questions put to you.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:37 amCFP, that certainly is an insult. You are contributing to the branding of these organizations as “terrorist-loving”. Why else would you assume that they would get involved? Why else would you care?
May 21st, 2009 at 11:39 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Answer this CFP. Let’s say your son was in the military and was captured in Iran. They were holding him without charges and without any rights whatsoever. They were also torturing him. Wouldn’t you want someone to represent your son and fight for his rights?
He would accept help from the Feds, the UN, Doctors Without Frontiers, Europe… anyone.
Only to talk bad about them once his son were released.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:39 amOS Says:
Read much? Forgot about the lawyer that was arrested and convicted for passing notes to a terrorist on trial she was defending here in the US? The aclu and cair love the terrorists.
Ahem. “Bad apples”. Ring a bell?
May 21st, 2009 at 11:43 amConservativeForProgress Says:
Ralph: do you have anything other than insults to contribute, or are you too, carrying nothing but duds?
When have you EVER contributed anything here but negativity? You’ve never posted a single idea or thought that wasn’t cribbed from someone else, or that wasn’t posted purely because you thought it was a shot at Democrats, liberals or President Obama.
No ideas, no new concepts, nothing but childish sniping. You have absolutely no room at all to criticize Ralph. None.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:44 amOh, face it, if this had happened on Bush’s watch, the wingers would all be singing his praises for keeping us safe and talking about how dangerous these guys were. Then they’d call anyone who questioned this were un-American.
I am so sick of the trolls. In my mind, they are no better than the criminals they insist on defending.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:45 amOS Says:
In a startlingly sweeping verdict, Ms. Stewart was convicted on all five counts of providing material aid to terrorism and of lying to the government when she pledged to obey federal rules that barred her client, Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, from communicating with his followers. Her co-defendants, Ahmed Abdel Sattar and Mohamed Yousry, were also convicted of all the charges against them.
In other words, the idea of treating terrorists as criminals and trying them in criminal courts. . . works. Thank you for that concession.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:47 amOS Says:
Read much? Forgot about the lawyer that was arrested and convicted for passing notes to a terrorist on trial she was defending here in the US? The aclu and cair love the terrorists.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:41 am
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What does Lynne Stewart have to do with either organization?
May 21st, 2009 at 11:49 amchiroptera toasterhead Says: What does Lynne Stewart have to do with either organization?
Does it matter? This is a “reality optional” troll you were addressing, remember.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:52 amOS Says:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/ACLU%20Defends%20Guantanamo%20Terrorists.htm
May 21st, 2009 at 11:51 am
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Good for the ACLU. Even people suspected of the crime of terrorism deserve legal representation and should be aware of their rights as a criminal suspect. Supporting justice and the rule of law is NOT the same as supporting terrorist motives.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:54 amOS Says:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/ACLU%20Defends%20Guantanamo%20Terrorists.htm
This links to a site that links to a site that can’t be accessed without paying. Have you got another, easier to read, news site?
May 21st, 2009 at 11:57 amchiroptera toasterhead Says:
OS Says:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/ACLU%20Defends%20Guantanamo%20Terrorists.htm
May 21st, 2009 at 11:51 am
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Good for the ACLU. Even people suspected of the crime of terrorism deserve legal representation and should be aware of their rights as a criminal suspect. Supporting justice and the rule of law is NOT the same as supporting terrorist motives.
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Probably OS thinks that the Red Cross is also a terrorist associate.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:57 amConservativeForProgress Says:
Yet, Obama is ratcheting up the fight “over there” in Afghanistan and Pakistan. How to you feel about that MissMolly?
An article in the NY Times might enlighten you about the work the Obama administration is doing to ‘ratchet up the fight’ -in Afghanistan – WHERE AFGHANISTAN TRYING TO REACH SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT TO STOP THE FIGHT!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/world/asia/21kabul.html?hp
May 21st, 2009 at 11:58 amThe ACLU also defends conservatives:
http://www.aclusandiego.org/news_item.php?article_id=000376&print=yes
How often do the progressives get infuriated at the ACLU for their help to conservatives? Even Rush Limbaugh, for crying out loud (which is what the conservatives do a lot of).
May 21st, 2009 at 11:59 amOS Says:
Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin reports that according to “astonished” U.S. military sources, the Pentagon recently permitted ACLU lawyers to sit in on interrogations of the al Qaeda and Taliban enemy combatants being held in Guantanamo; in the majority of cases, these attorneys advised the prisoners that they were under no obligation to answer military interrogators’ questions. Says one exasperated military source, “It’s as if they [the detainees] were [merely] shoplifters in the U.S. The lawyers may have left by now, but the damage is done. We’re sending guys [attorneys] down to interrogate on [the] taxpayer’s dime for absolutely no reason now.”
May 21st, 2009 at 12:00 pm
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What is wrong with this, exactly? Do you not believe in human rights for suspected criminals?
May 21st, 2009 at 12:03 pmOS is competing with special jay for the “most entertaining right wing coward” award
he’s gonna have to work harder. he’s matched jay’s cowardice, but isn’t quite as entertaining yet
May 21st, 2009 at 12:03 pmOS Says:
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Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin
As I said… I’d like to read the original report from which this story came.
G2 Bulletin site: The information on this site is accessed by subscription only.
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Run for the hills!!! We’re all gonna DIE!!!!!
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That’s the same liberal war cry heard on any unseasonably warm January day in the NorthEast.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:04 pmOS Says:
Toasterdick, do you know the difference between a terrorist and a criminal?
Considering terrorism is a crime… it must be the same difference between a rapist and a criminal.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:05 pmOS thinks terrorists are super-villians, not just criminals
no wonder he’s so scared all the time
May 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pmSay, OS. Care to enlighten me on what discoverthernetworks.org is all about? Seems to me that it’s chock full o’ crazy…
What’s the low down, playa?
May 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pmOS Says:
ACLU Defends Guantanamo Terrorists
By John Perazzo
Discover The Networks – Moonbat Central
August 22, 2005
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Curiously enough, John Perazzo doesn’t appears in Wikipedia and the only matches making a search in internet, are far right blogs…
May 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pmOS Says:
Toasterdick, do you know the difference between a terrorist and a criminal?
May 21st, 2009 at 12:04 pm
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No. There is none. They’re both criminals.
The fact that one has political motives and the other is motivated by other factors such as money or personal grievance is irrelevant to their right to due process.
Now, in terms of indictments and sentencing, I would favor prosecuting terrorists as we do hate-crimes, since their targets are not merely an individual victim but all members of the victim’s group. But that is not the same as denying them due-process rights and a fair trial.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pmOS Says:
Toasterdick, do you know the difference between a terrorist and a criminal?
You’ve already explained that our court system deals nicely with terrorists. Why are you backtracking suddenly?
May 21st, 2009 at 12:10 pmAhhhh… nevermind, OS. I found it myself. Now the infestation of low grade trolls is starting to make sense.
David Horowitz.
Chock full o’ crazy.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:12 pmOS Says: do you know the difference between a terrorist and a criminal?
I don’t. The Republicans aren’t helping either, since they are acting like both.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:14 pmtranslation: black people scare me too!
May 21st, 2009 at 12:15 pmConservativeForProgress Says
May 21st, 2009 at 11:28 am
Yet, Obama is ratcheting up the fight “over there” in Afghanistan and Pakistan. How to you feel about that MissMolly?
(just out of curiosity, what is the intended meaning of the middle part of your name? — thanks)
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How quickly we forget about Osama bin Laden. He hasn’t been captured and brought to justice yet, and our last president pretty much lost interest in him.
During the time we’ve gotten bogged down in Iraq — a country not connected to Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, or 9/11 — OBL has remained untouched and his Al Qaeda group has flourished (not to be confused with Al Qaeda Iraq, which is a different group). This is the hornet’s nest President Obama wants to eradicate.
I don’t like the idea of putting our military in harm’s way unless it genuinely is for the defense of our security. Iraq never met that criterion. The Al Qaeda in the hills between Afghanistan and Pakistan does meet it, as they really do mean to do us harm (and have actually attacked us). And hopefully we can take care of this fight without occupying entire countries, changing regimes, starting civil wars, manufacturing conflicts merely to give no-bid contracts to cronies, or spending $10 billion a month.
If we had focused on the Afghanistan situation all along instead of getting involved in a war for oil, we no doubt would have accomplished our objective and Obama wouldn’t be “ratcheting up” anything.
About my middle name — I assume you can google “coleoptera” as well as anyone else. It refers to the order of insects that include beetles and other sheathed wing insects. You’ll notice I’m not the only one here with an insect-themed name. This came from http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/25/oreilly-attacks-tp-2/.
I wear the moniker with pride.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:27 pmputz, I don’t speak ebonics…sorry.
great, some aryan pride troll in his basement with a confederate flag over his bed. way to completely shoot any shred of credibility you might’ve had. Cue Jay up for the relief team… sigh. it’s very trollish this week.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pmI suggest for Fridays, we make up some game to really mess with the trolls. Trollsports. Troll olympiad. i’m going to put my mind to it.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:32 pmRealness Says:
I suggest for Fridays, we make up some game to really mess with the trolls. Trollsports. Troll olympiad. i’m going to put my mind to it.
The 2009 International Trollympics.
I suggest the 100-yard Copy-Paste-and-Dash
May 21st, 2009 at 12:38 pmRanting Tommy,
May 21st, 2009 at 12:38 pmPlease stop being so funny.I can’t read the postings when I’m
laughing so hard that my eyes are watering.
Thank you, I really needed the laughs.
Caught on US soil, will be held and tried on US soil, debate over!
May 21st, 2009 at 12:45 pmNice Headline JerkPROGRESS!!
When will the leftist terrorist defenders like the ACLU, The NYT, MSLSD, and the rest of the alphabet soup rejects run to defend these pieces of human debris? Immediately, of course!
May 21st, 2009 at 12:46 pmBut the trolls, with their overwhelming cowardice and ignorance, make for such great comic material!
I mean, look at the posts from slappy and johnson, dripping with fear and panic.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:47 pmjohnson is being terrorized by cheney and the rest of the fear-monger cowards
imagine what would happen if right wingers weren’t such pansies!
they’d become liberals
May 21st, 2009 at 12:49 pmAn Aryan who speaks Yiddish?
May 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pmSlappy and his johnson… you guys call this your second wave?
Sheesh, Horowitz what kind of loons are you recruiting these days?
May 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pmI just smile at the mention of ACLU as a terrorist defender. ACLU defends people. I’m sorry you’ve disconnected some wires, but terrorists are people. People we all are opposed to, yes, but to dehumanize anyone is always what gets us into these messes. The ACLU has defended conservative groups in free speech and freedom of religion cases for decades. There’s just no love for the ACLU, I guess :)
May 21st, 2009 at 12:53 pmSkdeAnt:
I didn’t even pick up on that! Paradox, indeed! Maybe it’s a comedy act by OS, then?
May 21st, 2009 at 12:55 pmThe 2009 International Trollympics.
I suggest the 100-yard Copy-Paste-and-Dash
C4Progress totally wins that event, hands down.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:56 pmJohn Wilkes Booth was an amateur assassin…and yet still managed to change history.
May 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm“When will the right wing insist the NYC synagogue bombers are ‘too dangerous’ for U.S. prisons?”
Never, it does not fit into their Republic Fascist Party talking points.
May 21st, 2009 at 1:09 pmRantingTommy Says
May 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
OS thinks terrorists are super-villians, not just criminals
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So why have I never seen any terrorists in tights, a cape, and a fancy logo on their chest?
May 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
“They were amateur idiots carrying nothing but duds.”
That pretty much describes most male neocon repugnicans. You, for example.
May 21st, 2009 at 1:28 pmmisscoleopteramolly Says:
RantingTommy Says
May 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
OS thinks terrorists are super-villians, not just criminals
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So why have I never seen any terrorists in tights, a cape, and a fancy logo on their chest?
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OS unplugged his webcam?
May 21st, 2009 at 1:31 pmIs it a U.S. prison if it’s in New York City? That’s not the “real America,” you know.
The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com
May 21st, 2009 at 3:23 pmThey do not have super powers. They are not like Magneto or The Hulk. Our supermaxs can hold them. Our medium maxs can hold them. I’m about an hour’s drive from Charles Manson and I never fear. That empty prison in Montana that holds about 400 and wants them is probably more isolated than Guantanomo.
Toaster is right. They deserve due process and a fair trial. It’s the American way. To put them in prison with no defense is unAmerican. They’ve been monitoring them for a year now—they must have enough to convict them fairly.
May 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pmGuantanamo
May 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pmSchool’s out! OS, a.k.a. “God”, a.k.a. brotha__________ is cutting and pasting away.
May 21st, 2009 at 7:39 pmsesli chat,
May 21st, 2009 at 8:20 pmWhat gives? You are using my words to cover up your sale of sherbert!? Flagged!
“Terrorist Mind Control Techniques?” “…to create a whole army of brainwashed convicts under their complete control.”
Are the terrorists practicing Voodoo? Maybe they’ve read the Mossad brainwashing guide? Maybe their prayers scare other inmates? Such spooky people, these Muslims.
Then again, maybe when the other prisoners hear their stories, they’ll start thinking. We can’t let that happen? After all, it wouldn’t take a lot to convince people that America’s leaders are dubious. Or that they’re controlled by Israel.
Sounds to me like we’re scared shit of what they might tell the other guys.
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:26 am