Judith Miller cites her time in prison to argue that U.S. facilities can hold terrorists.
Judith Miller cites her time in prison to argue that U.S. facilities can hold terrorists.
This morning, the hosts of Fox and Friends brought up FBI Director Robert Mueller’s recent comments warning that if Guantanamo detainees are allowed into U.S. prisons, they may turn to “radicalizing” other inmates. Fox News contributor Joel Mowbray said that it would be dangerous putting detainees into U.S. prisons because guards “know how to handle rapists and murderers and drug dealers,” but “they do not know how to handle terrorists.” Former New York Times reporter Judith Miller took issue with Mowbray’s conclusions, saying, “We know how to do this.” To back up her point, she pulled out her street cred and cited her time serving in prison:
Joel, I’m sorry, but I was actually in a jail with — one floor away — from Zacarias Moussaoui. … We know how to do this. Believe me, we can do it. The issue is, is it politically acceptable to the American people? That we’re not sure about.
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Miller, of course, was central to the Valerie Plame leak scandal and a key player in pushing false intelligence that led the public into the Iraq war. In 2005, Miller went to jail for refusing to testify in the Valerie Plame scandal and reveal her conversations with Scooter Libby. (HT: Raw Story)
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The issue is, is it politically acceptable to the American people?
I guess fear mongering by the pussies in the Republic Fascist Party has turned most of America into pussies also.
Right, you pussie trolls?
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 pmJudith Miller is a hack and a traitor — and should still be in prison.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:12 pmJohn Walker Lindh?
http://www.counterpunch.org/teitelman05222009.html
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:14 pmShe was in jail with a terrorist, so she must have been radicalized. Those hosts must’ve been shitting their pants.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:20 pmIf right wingers weren’t such pussies, they’d become liberals
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:22 pmI would be more comfortable if the pundits and Republicans would explain what the superpowers of “terrorists” happen to be. Perhaps they’re afraid that Islamic fundamentalists will convert the Aryan Nations members. Or perhaps Islamic fundamentalists can walk through concrete walls (but not walk on water).
I’m confused. I could have sworn the Gitmo prisoners were, well, human beings. Obviously, I’ve missed something.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:22 pmjudy. judy. judy.
you would know about terrorist activity now, wouldn’t you…
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:27 pmJudith Miller is the reason I canceled my subscription to Time Magazine. She helped pushed this forsaken war. It figures she is on Faux News.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:32 pmHahahahahahah, Judy Miller has more street cred than Brian Kilmeade.
Um, instead of basking in the afterglow of American Idol, how about the MSM investigate who these detainees are AND are they really terrorists. The word of some thug, war lord in the Northern Alliance isn’t enough for me.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:32 pmIf we can hold someone like Charlie Manson for this long, why can’t we hold these ‘terrorists’?
When are Americans going to get past this crybaby fear crap? There are scarier, more dangerous people loose in America than the worst terrorist we have in custody.
Just watch Fox.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:33 pmHmm, is there room in our American prisons for the three Republican liars, terrorists, traitors, tyrants and torturers: Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush?
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:33 pmWhy is it that everything that’s ebarrassing to this country ends up having some connection to Dick Cheney?
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:34 pmi wish there was an “L O L” button here…
and, as someone noted before, that show “Lock Up” on msnbc is enough to comprehend there are some pretty nasty radical being contained…
the biggest problem will probably be keeping the gitmo guys alive and well away from the american uglies…
gad, if i hear “uh wanna git ma knife weut” on more time, i will scream…
note to msnbc: retire that one. gratuitous and unnecessary.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:36 pmyep, hooda, it’s the one’s what’s loose that bothers me too!
back outside…
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:39 pmgotta get the damn helicopters out of the gutters before it rains.
g’day all…
So much BS. KSM had nothing at all to do with 9-11.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:44 pmHe was tortured while fed his Mastermind act. Miller was not considered as a serious threat to national security and therefore was not placed under tight seclusion while she was in the prison where she was properly placed. She has no first hand knowledge of prison secutity where there is no contack allowed between prisoners.
Katy, we have people who are more dangerous to the US and the world on the air than al Queda ever dreamed of recruiting. They blew up one building on one day. We have spent the following 8 years making sure it worked.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:46 pmJudy, apparently, wasnt able to chew thru hardened steel bars…
*thud*
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:53 pmHow are detainees going to provide financing or undertake attacks from jail? Radicalizing, well one would think that they would limit their exposure to other inmates, no? I smell BS.
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:58 pmThis isn’t about max security–Camp Delta was slapped together as a detention facility in 2002. It’s about being out of the reach of US Law.
May 22nd, 2009 at 3:00 pmMost of these detainees have been in a hole for six years, getting the crap beaten out of them, going on hunger strikes and attempting suicide. I doubt any of them have the strength or resolve to be dangerous.
May 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 pmAnd this Joel Mowbray troll just insulted every police officer and CO out there by saying they are not capable of handling Gitmo detainee’s in US prison? And yet our Officers and CO’s handle some of the most brutal criminals known to man in our prison system.
JUDITH MILLER GET’S THUMBS UP!!!!
May 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm“what is the difference?”
May 22nd, 2009 at 5:46 pm… uh, it’s illegal?
we are told that bringing these persons to the mainland shall present a grave danger to our security. how delightfully shallow – you must however admire their hypocrisy if not sheer stupidity. the countries federal prisons presently house hundreds of terrorists – that is correct, hundreds of these supposed dangerous persons. i speak not of even mobster or gangsters, serial killers but rather terrorists, forgive my insistence that such terms are separate yet i employ the latter to specifically refer to those engaged in some religious struggle against the country.
fact: none has ever escaped these supermax prisons and in fact none shall ever do so – that you can count on. these persons do not receive guests and in most cases do not associate with other prisoners. in fact some even do not even see their own guards but rather spend their entire being in absolute solitude till they shall die. now tell me, how have we continued such a program of imprisonment around the country yet have suffered no attacks as a result.
some have claimed that bringing them here would make the country even more likely to be attacked. really. invading iraq and torturing them is not enough of an incentive to attack us but putting them into prisons would prove the worst of them all.
the humanity.
May 22nd, 2009 at 8:13 pmShe should know. She was the sole source for her newspaper for nearly all of their information regarding the war. She checked no sources and asked no questions and neither did her paper. And after nearly two years, surprise. They and she found out she was had. It turned out Bush admins. gave her all they wanted in the news. None of the truth. She pushed the run up to and after the war. She ended up in jail for being an idiot.
And the kind of jail and facility she was in, would not be comparable to what a terrorist would face. It figures that only Fox would consider her words and time in jail as a picture of life behind bars for a terrorist. That’s Fox for you.
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pmFox news is populated by a bunch of cowardly wimps who act like they’re ready to crap in their own pants at the thought of the scary terrorist supermen coming after them.
May 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 pmYep. I knew it. Judith Miller *IS* a terrorist!!
May 23rd, 2009 at 1:07 amWhat kind of a country have we become when a woman has more bravery concerning being housed with the terrorist than all of the brave men currently serving in congress? Is there any wonder they dropped the ball on 911? “WE WAS SCARED…..WE WAS SCARED…..WE WAS SCARED!
May 23rd, 2009 at 11:44 amHell, the state prisons can handle them. What makes foreign criminals worse than our own? It appears the Republicans are calling our criminals “punks”. If they continue to denigrate our mass murderers and rapist and armed robbers and drug dealers they may find a much bigger threat to America waiting for them. Why are our prisoners considered weak and so cooperative. I dare say the guards currently watching over them would strongly disagree with the current crop of Republican politicians. Well, lets just see: We have homosexual rapist raping each other quite regularly, we have extortion going on, we have crooked guards bringing in drugs and blaming it on the inmates family members, we have guards having sex with the inmates, sometimes even with the FEMALE inmates and getting them pregnant, we have silly female guards sneaking all sorts of things to the male inmate she just can’t resist, we have corrupt Wardens contracting with his cousins to bring in supplies, we have corrupt politicians passing contracts to build prisons to their buddies, we even have some of our politicians currently having long “visits” at the prisons themselves (their doing research), we have blatant drug abuse inside our prisons, we have a very high percentage of HIV in our prisons. With all that degradation I will hold our prisons up against any in the world for depravity and toughness with the worst places in the world to hold a terrorist, for that matter, any other human being. In fact I would not be surprised if after 6 months inside of one of our prisons the terrorist would call the authorities and will confess to everything they ever did since childbirth—I know I did! I will hold our prisons up to any in the world for loneliness and the absolute worst medical care on the planet. I‘m confident our prisons are number one in having to put up with individuals you would normally never interact with in everyday life and I’m just talking about the guards, for now. Most guards are the most intellectually insecure lot in the entire country and they build their collective self esteem by putting other people down—Guess who they choose to victimize? Now the inmates adapt to this environment and become ten times more of the animal they were before they were sentenced.
Actually, my experience with prison-some twenty-years ago, was so horrible and traumatic I NEVER went back. NOOOOO I didn’t get sexually assaulted (for the nasty minded), I’m actually a moderately tough kinda guy. Nobody threatened me. Nobody scared me at all-It was simply the worst experience of my life and to this day I cannot understand how anyone could repeat it. I told the parole board as much when I left. The only reason they released me is because they said I sounded more sincere than anyone who’d ever appeared before them and they were absolutely sure I would never come back. I HATED THE PLACE!!!!!!!
With all of the above stated I enthusiastically support sending them to any of our wonderful palaces of incarceration. The terrorist will tell you a lot more information than you could have gotten from waterboarding them. I assure you, while they may have been trained to resist waterboarding I guarantee you they have never seen anything like what they will experience in one of our prisons. This is the one and only time I have ever agreed with George W. Bush, but BRING EM ON!
I assure you that any terrorist in the world, after spending just ten years in one of our prisons, upon release would slap the hell out of Osama bin Laden’s momma for convincing him to be a terrorist!
May 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 amI knew John Dillinger. I was in jail with John Dillinger. He got out and I didn’t.
Such is life.
May 24th, 2009 at 1:59 am