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Note To Scarborough: Cheney’s Alter Ego Went To Jail At The End Of ‘A Few Good Men’

Joe Scarborough’s defense of torture and its apologists has grown so desperate that he’s now resorting to quotes from fictional characters in Hollywood movies to support his position.

Indeed, this morning he said on MSNBC that in his view, the juxtaposition of President Obama’s speech on national security with former Vice President Cheney’s speech defending his torture program reminded him of the 1992 film A Few Good Men, in which a Marine is killed by two of his colleagues as they attempt to run him out of the service. (At the end of the movie, an unrepentant senior officer admits that he ordered the assault.):

SCARBOROUGH: This scene yesterday…I’m serious here, this comes straight out of “A Few Good Men.” The reason why the closing scene with Jack Nicholson on the stand worked so well, is, of course, we were all rooting for the young attractive Tom Cruise, just like more Americans are probably rooting for President Obama. But at the same time, what was said on that stand by Nicholson…I was struck by that contrast.

Scarborough insisted that he wasn’t comparing Obama to the character played by Tom Cruise or Cheney to the character played by Jack Nicholson, but it’s clear that Scarborough was doing exactly that. Watch it:

In the movie, Cruise’s character gets commander Col. Jessup, played by Nicholson, to admit that he ordered two young Marines to assault and kill their colleague. The Cheney-esque Jessup defends his decision by saying, “[his] death, while tragic, probably saved lives” and “[y]ou have no idea how to defend a nation. All you did was weaken a country today.” So in that sense, yes — Cheney’s speech yesterday was “straight out of ‘A Few Good Men.’”

But to refresh Scarborough’s memory, at the end of the movie, Jessup ends up going to prison for his actions. “[Y]ou’re under arrest, you son of a bitch,” Cruise tells Nicholson’s Cheney-esque character in a dramatic scene at the end of the movie.

So to keep playing out Scarborough’s fantasy world — Will real-life end the same way “A Few Good Men”did? Based on his continued insistence that torture works(!), we’ll put Scarborough down as hoping “no.”



86 Responses to “Note To Scarborough: Cheney’s Alter Ego Went To Jail At The End Of ‘A Few Good Men’”

  1. jerseyboyblue says:

    clueless Joe strikes again.


  2. StratRat says:

    The entire GOP thinks this is all just a TeeVee show. They never did handle ‘reality’ very well.


  3. P.D. says:

    I can’t stomach Joe anymore. The fact that he had Liz Cheney on, yet again, makes me sick. And Mika, what a waste. I admired her once, but the last couple of weeks she has become a apoligist for good ole Dick. These people are surrounded by a bubble. Most of the people I know think the same thing, Cheney is a criminal.


  4. dhampton100 says:

    HERE IS MY PREDICTION: The Republicans, having already lost their damn minds will begin to imagine the world coming to an end and the only person who can save it is some old white southern-backwards thinking man who can’t control his biles which have now began to run out of his mouth.
    “Coming to a congress near you, any day now!”


  5. Xisithrus says:

    Seriously Joe?

    Movies?

    Comics next?


  6. jaimymoore says:

    Wow. A movie proves Joe right?

    Or does Joe think he lives in a movie?


  7. Badmoodman says:

    Note To Scarborough: Cheney’s Alter Ego Went To Jail At The End Of ‘A Few Good Men’

    – - Not to mention that the writer of A Few Good Men, Aaron Sorkin, is an avowed Democrat.


  8. Buckie Boy says:

    Hey, POS Joe, why don’t you volunteer to be Waterboarded like Mancow did?

    He lasted 6-7 seconds, you would last….mmmm….maybe 3-4…

    …why don’t you move over to Fox Non-News? The propaganda and lies are believed by the audience there.


  9. Xisithrus says:

    “The average person can take this for 14 seconds,” Marine Sergeant Clay South answered, adding, “He’s going to wiggle, he’s going to scream, he’s going to wish he never did this.”

    With a Chicago Fire Department paramedic on hand, Mancow was placed on a 7-foot long table, his legs were elevated, and his feet were tied up.

    Turns out the stunt wasn’t so funny. Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop. He only lasted 6 or 7 seconds.

    “It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that’s no joke,”Mancow said, likening it to a time when he nearly drowned as a child. “It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back…It was instantaneous…and I don’t want to say this: absolutely torture.”

    Hannity? Limbaugh? Joe? Want to try this next?


  10. paleolib says:

    Just another example of Republican fascination with felons who commit their crimes allegedly in the name of protecting America. Unlike Ollie North and Gordon Liddy who at least got their own hands dirty, Cheney dodged the draft repeatedly and sent others out to die. This is scraping the bottom even for Joe.


  11. spring heeled jack says:

    Not to mention Cheney’s alter ego has the guts to serve in the armed forces.


  12. drago says:

    Joe Scarborough is a F * * K T A R D!


  13. JMOHR says:

    I love A FEW GOOD MENbecause I was a JAG. Of course Joe would love it. He has no concept that Jessup was set up to be a fool bordering on insanity. Of course, the part Cruise played was actually based upon a certain southwestern US Attorney who was fired for failing to undertake politically motivated voter fraud prosecutions. Interesting.


  14. obama-biden2009 says:

    Is it me or is NBC turning into another Fox? For years I have been watching the Today show but with some recent comments from “where’s your brain” Matt Liar telling Miss H8 California he was so happy to give her a venue to speak her (limited) mind on freedom of “hate” speech, then Morning Joke becoming just that with his side kick “Meeka”, Liz Chainy on as a regular what “Contributor” like Fox does?

    If they screw with Keith or Rachel, that’s it. Murdoch must be buying up NBC shares?


  15. obama-biden2009 says:

    Xisithrus Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    “The average person can take this for 14 seconds,” Marine Sergeant Clay South answered, adding, “He’s going to wiggle, he’s going to scream, he’s going to wish he never did this.”

    With a Chicago Fire Department paramedic on hand, Mancow was placed on a 7-foot long table, his legs were elevated, and his feet were tied up.

    Turns out the stunt wasn’t so funny. Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop. He only lasted 6 or 7 seconds.

    “It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that’s no joke,”Mancow said, likening it to a time when he nearly drowned as a child. “It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back…It was instantaneous…and I don’t want to say this: absolutely torture.”

    Hannity? Limbaugh? Joe? Want to try this next?

    You forgot “Chainy”!!!


  16. Xisithrus says:

    I think NBC is doing it for ratings..and it seems to be a slow newsweek what with the Pelosi vs CIA thing becoming a flop.


  17. spring heeled jack says:

    Joe, you remind of that guy in the movie, a thriller, about a Florida Congressman who has a woman mysteriously die in his office and there’s a cover-up and the Congressman gets away with it and ends up having his own talk show.

    What’s the name of that movie, again?

    –Oh, right. Morning Joe.


  18. wiley says:

    In that movie was that the marines were stationed at Guantanamo where Nicholson was an uber-machismo commander defending the U.S. from Cubans. Nicholson ordered his men to beat up a soldier who was falling behind in exercises. He didn’t know the guy had a heart condition. The soldier died from the beating, and Nicholson’s character ordered a cover-up. I think the real comparison is an attitude of rabid militarism in the face of exaggerated threats.


  19. wiley says:

    eek. haven’t had my coffee yet


  20. Xisithrus says:

    You forgot “Chainy”!!!

    Proud didnt want me obsessing over his hero Dick


  21. P.D. says:

    What are Joe’s ratings anyway/ Lord knows, I can’t watch him anymore.


  22. MCMetal says:

    Note To Scarborough: Cheney’s Alter Ego Went To Jail At The End Of ‘A Few Good Men’

    Hopefully , real life will mimic celluloid ……..Tools like Stupidborough need to be shown their hero worship of moronic criminals is simply not acceptable …………


  23. drago says:

    Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!
    –President George W. Bush

    Bush and Cheney should have been impeached, convicted, removed from office and criminally prosecuted.


  24. mymoon says:

    Xisithrus Says: @ 9
    I watched the video, it wasnt even close to the real thing, they counted it down for him and he wasnt even strapped down.
    Just waiting for hannity!


  25. Comn1106 says:

    Too bad in this instance real life doesn’t play out the way it does in the movies…


  26. Marie says:

    Coincidentally I saw that movie again a couple of weeks ago and had the same thought — Cheney is like Jessup — who thought he knew better than anyone else, and rules did not apply to him.
    All he did was weaken the nation.


  27. P.D. says:

    Did Joe ever work with Cheney or not? To defend someone who is so indefensible is not only odd, but frightning. In our world, you do something bad, you go to friggin jail. Is it OK for cops to torture to get information about a serial rapist? How about arsonists or pediphiles? This logic doesn’t work. It sickens me to see MSM defending Cheney. They have totally changed the debate from ‘We don’t torture’ too ‘We torture because it gave us information’ And what pisses me off is that it DIDN’T. But yet good ole Dick SAID it did and MSM let’s him get away with it.


  28. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Joe makes a very sound comparison here, as TP’s headline points out.

    Like Col. Jessup, Cheney authorized illegal, abusive measures be taken in a mistaken belief that this guarantees “security”. They both talk a good game, using words that captivate right-wing authoritarian audiences and seasoning those words with an unhealthy dash of derision for the rule of law.

    Let’s hope the comparison is more complete, and Cheney winds up with the same fate as Col. Jessup.

    But of course, as spring heeled jack points out, Col. Jessup actually served in uniform.


  29. spring heeled jack says:

    Way to go, Mancow!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/22/mancow-waterboarded-video_n_206906.html

    Any trolls want to still insist it’s just pouring water over someone and not torture?


  30. Marie says:

    MSNBC in the morning is really a shameful show. Scarborough is pathetic, Mika is useless, and the side kick, whatshisname is Tucker Carlson’s former TV pal.
    I don’t understand wny MSNBC doesn’t balance its morning show instead of pretending to be Fox lite.


  31. har5125 says:

    So Joe “card carrying Repub” even though I knew how the movie would end I was pulling for Col. Jessup not LTJG Kaffee. But here in reality I pull for President Obama not the former (Vice) President Cheney.


  32. sacopenapa says:

    Alternet
    TheRawStory
    and DemocracyNow

    had much better cover on the issue of US’s War Crimes than TP this past weeks!


  33. Trittydi says:

    This is funny as hell . . . .
    *


  34. flight says:

    Scarborough is pathetic. I honestly believe these pundits from the right will concoct anything to fill up airtime.
    The obvious problem with the right wing is the moral bankruptcy of the Republican Party. Say anything, imply anything and push the envelope.

    Some one should tell them that they have been rejected by a majority of the voters, and by a large margin.


  35. belaccifer lacca says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says:

    Can you help me out C4P?

    I’m looking for a professional interrogator who agrees with Cheney that waterboarding is not only not counter-productive and stupid but also a valuable tool for interrogators… just one.

    We haven’t found one yet.


  36. P.D. says:

    Consevative@34, I was wondering when you would show up. As for the statement that this is a good thing for the GOP, you are wrong, already Tom Ridge and Gates stated that Cheney was wrong, not including McClatchy newspapers who have a point by point article about all of Cheneys lies and distortions. So much for being a plus!


  37. nanlichi says:

    Call it what you will, torture, enhanced interrogations, whatever, but the good citizens of Salem did’nt care. They were glad to have someone of Cheney’s mindset to deal with the witches and ignore the whiny bastards who claimed it didn’t produce results.

    You want results do you? I dare you to find one proven case, ONE CASE, of witchcraft in Salem after they burned the witches.

    Thank God for creatures like Cheney to keep CFP from pissing all over himself.


  38. spring heeled jack says:

    CFP, your reading comprehension is dreadful. Joe Scarborough is the one making this comparison.


  39. misscoleopteramolly says:

    I am getting so sick of Republicans citing movies and television as some kind of accurate comparison to real life.

    In any kind of action movie or television show, there’s always an element of defying authority — in fact, the fiction always presents an extraordinary situation where laws HAVE to be broken or people will die (think “Red Dawn”, “Independence Day”, “War of the Worlds”, etc.). This is standard formula for any kind of action movie — the villains are the ones who are enforcing rules and the heroes are the ones breaking them.

    I daresay that if we ever have an invasion of aliens, we might have to rethink some of our policies. But until then, let’s quit turning our situation into a Hollywood screenplay.


  40. Art says:

    I saw them run that clip this morning and said to my wife, “Yeah, that guy went to jail at the end of the movie.”

    Glad I wasn’t the only one who caught that.


  41. belaccifer lacca says:

    42. Try again. Scarborough started the comparison, and TP continued on with it. My reading comprehension is just fine, thank you.

    Okay- other than 42 (which we all know is the answer to life the universe and everything…) this post makes no sense.

    Am I wrong?


  42. blistex11 says:

    A Few Good Men? You can’t legitimately put Dick Cheney and the term “good men” in the same sentence.


  43. spring heeled jack says:

    Yes, CFP!—and we are ragging on him for making this ridiculous comparison.


  44. belaccifer lacca says:

    49. see 48. learn to read.


  45. spring heeled jack says:

    The phrase, “enhanced interrogation”, comes from the German term, Verschärfte Vernehmung, and was originally coined by the Gestapo, the official secret police of Nazi Germany.

    from wikipedia

    It’s a marketing term created by the torturers to fool people like you, CFP. And it has worked tremendously.


  46. blistex11 says:

    This allusion by Scarface was clearly indicative of the unrealistic lives these frauds lead. Their world is one of fictional characters and strawmen. These republican media-whores are beginning to look ultra pathetic as they try to spin torture as anything but totally sadistic not to mention totally illegal.

    The ONLY discussion here is how to bring Cheney and his gang of thugs to the justice they deserve for violating domestic and international law. The Pelosi “who knew what and when” is clearly a smokescreen and has absolutely NOTHING to do with the real issue.

    Besides, don’t these morons realize that there were Republican Congressmen who were also briefed by the CIA? What are these guys saying?

    As they paint Pelosi as a criminal for not speaking out on something classified, then they are simultaneously making the case for Bush/Cheney criminal activity.

    I’d like the media to go after those Republican congressmen who sit on this committee and ask them what they were told. These Reptards are in a total “catch 22″ on this one.


  47. rmwarnick says:

    I thought the exact same thing this morning. Has Scarborough ever seen this movie? If Cheney ever ends up like Jack Nicholson’s character, progressives will be very, very happy.


  48. blistex11 says:

    Enhanced Interrogation is Rovian/Orwellian speak for defrauding the public. It’s so in keeping with everything Bush Cabal did – they labeled things to provide one appearance while they were actually doing the opposite. People caught onto their diabolical tricks pretty quickly and are no longer fooled.

    ENHANCED INTERROGATION IS SIMPLY ‘CODE’ FOR TORTURE.


  49. blistex11 says:

    rmwarnick: Scarborough, like all of the double talking lying republicans is “losing it”. Either he never saw the flick and someone on the set “pimped him” or he’s now speaking Freudian.


  50. flight says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    flight Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Scarborough is pathetic. I honestly believe these pundits from the right will concoct anything to fill up airtime.
    The obvious problem with the right wing is the moral bankruptcy of the Republican Party. Say anything, imply anything and push the envelope.

    Some one should tell them that they have been rejected by a majority of the voters, and by a large margin.

    May 22nd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
    _______________________________________

    Democrats were rejected by a majority of the voters, and by a large margin, in the 1994 Republican Revolution. Did the Democratic party give up? Of course not. Neither will the Republicans. Another Republican Revolution will come.

    {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{

    The very big difference is the level the Republicans have stooped to. The Republicans are writing a new chapter in the losers play book and loosing political base because of it.

    The Republicans have to become the loyal opposition, not the village idiots!


  51. blistex11 says:

    Why isn’t anyone in the media mentioning the Republicans who were briefed by the CIA? This is a question which needs to be asked right now as the reichwingnutbags try to cricify Pelosi.

    Pelosi’s numbers are low because she sold out the people following the mid terms when she was blackmailed by Bush/Cheney to take impeachment off the table. I love the way the Retards try to paint her unpopularity as anything other than the fact that it was because she didn’t bring Bush to justice following the midterms.


  52. blistex11 says:

    Sorry but the Republicans have now been labeled as the “Republic Village Party of Idiots” (RVPOI)


  53. rastaman says:

    i guess that makes Colin Powell, Lt. Col. Matthew Andrew Markinson

    is he going to do the right thing and stick a gun in his mouth?


  54. kasinca says:

    Joe Scarface is dumb as dirt, stuck in the past, with Pat Buchanan. Do they really think we are as stupid as them? Waterboarding is torture, torture is a crime, Cheney had ambulance chasing lawyers write bogus permission slips to cover the crimes that had already been committed. We now know that the reason they used torture was to get bogus testimomy to justify the illegal and unnecessary war in Iraq. Scarface, Mika, and Pat Buchanan should be off the air.


  55. kasinca says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says: So what are Democrats trying to hide?
    ========================================================
    \

    The question is what are the rethugs trying to hide? Why are they not focusing on the crimes of the Bush Crime Family. There is complete evidence the republican administration broke the law and hired lawyers to write bogus permissio slips to cover their crimes. There are investigations underway. The minority doesn’t call the shots. Sit down and wait your turn, loser.


  56. belaccifer lacca says:

    C4P- do you have one name of a professional interrogator who agrees with you and Cheney on the utility and necessity of waterboarding?

    Just one?


  57. spring heeled jack says:

    CFP, not only are you off-topic on this thread, but you are off-topic in reality.

    Since this is a movie thread let’s put it this way:

    Cheney is a lead actor.

    Pelosi is a supporting actress.

    Did you come away from Gone w/ the Wind talking about Olivia De Havilland and Leslie Howard?


  58. belaccifer lacca says:

    Cute question, but that information would be in the classified documents that Obama has refused to declassify.

    Funny- ’cause I can find plenty who say the exact opposite… are you admitting that the only professional interrogators who will claim that waterboarding is useful and productive are those same interrogators who are actually guilty of waterboarding these detainees?

    Interesting.


  59. belaccifer lacca says:

    Not cute… but very interesting.


  60. spring heeled jack says:

    Actually for my analogy to be more accurate: Pelosi has a walk-on, one-line role.


  61. spring heeled jack says:

    People aren’t classified, CFP. Interrogators can come forward and discuss the issue of waterboarding in general.


  62. spring heeled jack says:

    SERE instructors aren’t classified, CFP. Why don’t SERE instructors come forward and support Cheney?


  63. belaccifer lacca says:

    Not even Mankow will support Cheney any more C4P… when you’ve lost the Mankow…


  64. spring heeled jack says:

    As Mancow goes, so goes the nation…


  65. kasinca says:

    Wingnuts like C4P need to understand that if Pelosi was complicit, so were the repugs who were complicit with all the crimes of the crime family. You are off base. Porter Goss has refused to say if they covered the waterboarding. EIT wasn’t used by the CIA until 2004. You are idiots and your crime family will go down.


  66. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Yes, Cheney is grotesque. Yes, Cheney is trying to weaken our nation by his divisive statements.


  67. spring heeled jack says:

    Has Cheney ever witnessed waterboarding first-hand?

    Does Mancow have more authority on this issue than Cheney?


  68. belaccifer lacca says:

    Why do they always run away?

    Just asking for one lousy name, jeez.


  69. spring heeled jack says:

    He gave you a name, bela, Nancy Pelosi.;)

    The truth is scary.

    CFP can’t handle the truth.


  70. belaccifer lacca says:

    CFP can’t handle the truth.

    Wait- does that make you Jack Nicholson spring heeled (oh my god)JACK!!?!?!

    Awesome!

    How are the lakers? And would you ask Lara Flynn who really killed Laura Palmer? That’s been buggin’ me.


  71. spring heeled jack says:

    Yeah, it’s me—Jaaaaaaack!:)[really devilish grin]

    I’m researching a role as a self-righteous liberal commentor.

    The Lakers are hanging in there. Great series.

    Leland Palmer, Laura’s father, killed her. Poor kid.


  72. barfly says:

    CFP can’t handle the truth.

    He “handles” it all the time. It’s just that he can’t mold an assertion that survives the kiln of reality.


  73. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says:
    Democrats were rejected by a majority of the voters, and by a large margin, in the 1994 Republican Revolution. Did the Democratic party give up? Of course not. Neither will the Republicans. Another Republican Revolution will come.

    Democrats in 1994 didn’t have an 18% approval rating.


  74. GeekPrime says:

    In addition to Jack Nicolas’ character going to jail at the end of the movie, there is another significant difference that must be resolved.

    Cheney is being compared to someone “on that wall,” as in “you need me on that wall.” This gives the man way too much credit. Cheney deferred himself out of Vietnam, and only gets all brave and tough-guy when he is ordering others to get dirty for him, has complete control of the microphone, there are others for him to blame, and there is no chance of an indictment.

    Get it straight, Cheney has never served on any wall.


  75. RantingTommy says:

    CFP is a hypocritical coward

    In other words, a typical Republican


  76. curious says:

    This one of many factors that make conservatives so frightening. The lack of comprehension and the level of maturity involved in the way they think. Or more to the point the way they don’t think. The fact that many ideas they CIA had were taken from a television program and given over to those in the White house, should make us all afraid. Very afraid.

    This fantasy world spills over to the talk show hosts and manages to make it’s way into main stream media. The newspapers which are now going under at an alarming rate are the trickle down effect. This and the fact that they have spent nearly all of the last eight years carrying water for a criminal enterprise. And even now, they not only don’t ask the right questions, but rarely push for a follow up question. And of course this kind of laziness is what has allowed the Scarborough’s and the others to prosper and grow.

    The dozen or so of real and accurate reporting are none by not the NY Times or Washington Post etc. But by the smaller and information driven reporters. Reporters that go back and check facts and push for answers. The rest are failures.


  77. kasinca says:

    I have not heard one rethuglican accept responsibility for their failed policies and philosophy. Every once in a while you will hear one say yea Clinton and Bush let their guard down…or something like that. They refuse to man up and accept responsiblity for their actions and wrongdoings. That is a sign of very immature, dysfunctionl and dishonest people. They have not come up with one postive, grown up idea since the election. All they do is obstruct, lie, and hope that something bad will happen to the president that will drop the leadership role into their lap without any work on their part or any mental aptitude. The rethugs are dangerously ignorant people.


  78. Xisithrus says:

    At every stage since his capture, as he changed taxis at the Afghan-Pakistan border, Hicks had crossed a legal landscape that Cheney did more than anyone to reshape. He was Detainee 002 at Guantanamo Bay, arriving on opening day at an asserted no man’s land beyond the reach of sovereign law. Interrogators questioned him under guidelines that gave legal cover to the infliction of pain and fear — and, according to an affidavit filed by British lawyer Steven Grosz, Hicks was subjected to beatings, sodomy with a foreign object, sensory deprivation, disorienting drugs and prolonged shackling in painful positions.

    If this were done to you would you call it torture CFP?


  79. maxamillion says:

    “dhampton100″ Your prediction……Am ROTFLMFAO!!!!


  80. ralph the wonder locust says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says:
    Pelosi Knew about Waterboarding from the Start

    According to the memo the very first briefing listed is 9/4/02 with then Rep. Porter Goss & Pelosi.

    The summary of the briefing says:

    “Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of the particular EITs that had been employed.”

    This directly contradicts Pelosi’s story, that “we were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used.”

    I wonder if that’s the same briefing in which the summary lists among those attending a particular aide who was in fact asked to step out of the room before the briefing started?

    Yeah, let’s accept as infallible the summaries of CIA briefings.


  81. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    Yeah, let’s accept as infallible the summaries of CIA briefings.

    Especially when the CIA Director says, ‘Don’t take our word for it, because we can’t vouch for these.’ And yet the right-wing insists that these documents “prove” Pelosi is lying.

    Are the trolls taught by someone to deliberately argue in this obtuse, bone-headed, illogical, common-sense-defying way? Or are they just naturally this stupid?


  82. republicanSScareme says:

    Screw Jack Nicholson’s character. You want to hear what a non-psychotic, two time winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor, USMC Major General Smedley Butler, had to say about “the truth?” Check out his 1933 speech.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4377.htm


  83. EugeneDebs says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says:

    and I’m ragging on TP for continuing the ridiculous comparison.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    No you are doing it because you are too stupid to make a point and too stupid to do anything else. In case you didnt notice the comparison WAS stupid Joe made it and THAT IS THE POINT you feckless moron


  84. PrahaPartizan says:

    Dick Cheney and George W. Bush and the rest of their court of jesters repeatedly claimed that they would “do anything” to protect the citizens of the United States. Time has arrived for them to “man up” and stand trial for torture – for breaking the law – to prove the worth of their prior claims. If they’re innocent, they’ll go free. If they’re guilty, they’ll prove that they were willing to do anything to protect the country, even if they could have done something else.


  85. Dirty Hippie says:

    Joe thinks people support Obama over Cheney because he’s more like Tom Cruise? Photogenic, um “magic”….

    More people support the appointment of a special prosecutor, and don’t give a shit what the party affiliation of the torturers or torture enablers might be. Put them all in jail for war crimes. ALL OF THEM.


  86. lapdogs says:

    Num-Nuts Joe, Strikes Again!

    Hey Joey Boy, what did the Judge do with Jack Nicholson’s character after his speech?

    He had him arrested! But you forgot about that part just ten seconds after Nicholson’s speech, don’t you?



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