The idea behind the Constitution, Geneva Convention, and other treaties barring torture, arbitrary invasion, etc, is that we aren’t supposed to be the kind of people to parse out fairness and justice conditional on the aspect of their worthiness. Even Talibanis and Neo-Nazis are supposed to be treated with equal fairness under what America claims to stand for.

15 out of 19 of the 9-11 hijackers were Saudis. Why did we attack the Taliban and not Saudi Arabia?

You’re such a great voice against the big bad American infidels. You should walk outside and kiss the ground of the country that allows you and I to have this conversation.

Which is why, I suspect, stewarjt is so outspoken when he sees this country adopt policies so counter to everything we are raised to believe about America. Those who object the loudest to the misbegotten direction America has taken are, to me, the biggest patriots.

Kissing the ground is one choice, but I’d rather fight, object, and call-out the policies and continued destructive attitudes that our government is perpetuating under the bogus guise of “National Security.” How does drowning a brain-impaired detainee keep us safe? How does beating people to death keep my country safe? How did wiping over 1 million men, women and children off the face of the earth, for no good goddamn reason keep me safe?

How does irradiating thousands of future generations with depleted uranium, guaranteeing years of children with mutations and cancer, keep me safe?

It hasn’t, and I call my country out on this insanity because of it. That is most certainly not America, nor would any thinking American accept it as such.

Pick a side? Okay, how about transparency and Constitutional justice? Not the bongwater that first bush and now Obama is pushing, but real authentic good governance according to the guiding Constitutional principles and rule of law?

That’s my side.

We need to gather men like this up to testify in congress against the bush administration. Especially this guy. He was not some low level Taliban fighter, he was a high ranking official, which obviously speaks to his credibility.

I feel so sorry for this poor lost soul and others like him. All they want is to be able to live their life in the way their religion dictates.

You’re such a great voice against the big bad American infidels. You should walk outside and kiss the ground of the country that allows you and I to have this conversation. How can you stand to live in this gutter that is America? You should move to the next bastion of reason that would be the next Taliban stronghold, as yet another country is trying to kick them out.

Next.

I weep for you and your ilk, for it’s puppy dog eyes like yours that stare barefoot from behind bobbed-wire looking for help from someone who told you all along that it would happen.

Don’t worry, when the time comes, no one will judge you on your current words. We will still save you.

Ask Great Britain what ignoring threats does? Go read a history book. As you are clearly doomed to repeat it.

Baa baa

Apparently innocents being killed doesn’t bother you as long as your government is doing the killing.

So are you saying we should have stopped when 3000 civilians had died? I’m just curious as to what you think should have been done.

Hey Stew, go ask Pakistan what they think about the Taliban? Clearly they are a peaceful folk, like yourself. Open your eyes blind sheep.

I love how you weak cattle fall to your knees in front of this poor soul when makes comments on what a bad stain this is for America. What kind of stain does the blood of 3000 folks look like? I guess you cleaned that all up and moved on.

Sad.

Senator Bob Graham (D), Representative Porter Goss (R), and Senator Jon Kyl (R) travel to Pakistan and meet with President Pervez Musharraf. They reportedly discuss various security issues, including the possible extradition of bin Laden. They also meet with Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan. Zaeef apparently tells them that the Taliban wants to solve the issue of bin Laden through negotiations with the US. Pakistan says it wants to stay out of the bin Laden issue. [Agence France-Presse, 8/28/2001; Salon, 9/14/2001]

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Sandoz76 Says:

But I hope this fellow thinks about how much he enjoyed his beating before administering it to a girl for doing math.

The SA and the SS Einsatztruppen used the same logic to justify their crimes, as they sang triumphant marching songs decrying the murder of their comrades by the “reds and reactionaries”.

Because something bad happened to them, it justified all that followed.

In their own, sick minds.

Lets be careful about who we are saying “our allies” are. I don’t mean to speak for Leftside Annie, but the Saudi’s are not my allies. This is a patriarchal world, I’m certainly sorry my country gives them a pass, but it doesn’t mean I give them a pass.

Again, my bottom line is that we don’t need to do the Taliban’s recruiting. But I hope this fellow thinks about how much he enjoyed his beating before administering it to a girl for doing math.

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We do give a sh$t however, about who WE are, and what WE stand for.

Fools and despots never learn this lesson until they’re alone in the bunker with a Walther and a Cyanide capsule.

builder54 Says:

Let me know why we should believe the Taliban about anything.
I’m curious. I’m not saying it didn’t happen. Why are we so quick to take the other side

Once again lets cut the bullsh$t.

Liars try to sell this as “us taking their side” when in fact it has NOTHING to do with “the other side”.

This is about us. It’s about who we are and what we stand for.

If you’re so damned ignorant you can’t see that then nothing anyone’s going to say will help you.

We always ask how the fools of 1930’s Germany allowed themselves to be seduced by men like Hitler, Himmler, Goebells and Goering.

Well, now you know.

I have no sympathy for Wars of Aggression, War Crimes, Torture and Occupiers!