Liz Cheney considering run for public office?
Liz Cheney considering run for public office?
The Washington Monthly’s Steve Benen has been keeping a close watch on Liz Cheney, noting that the ubiquitous daughter of the former vice president “practically lives on cable news” these days. “She also lies routinely, accuses the president of helping terrorists, and is so mindless in her attacks on the nation’s elected leadership, she’s something of a national embarrassment,” Benen writes. And according to close friends of hers, she may be the next Cheney to run for office:
“She’s awesome. Everyone wants her to run,” said a close friend. [...]
“She’s a chip off the block!” said a longtime friend. [...]
“It’s a two-fer. She comes off a bit better than he does sometimes,” a conservative consultant said.
Asked about the possibility that Liz Cheney might make a run for office, Republican operative Karl Rove responded, “She might!” Watch it:
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Well, sure. The name “Cheney” is political gold right now. Might as well leverage that incredible popularity while it’s still polling so high.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:42 pm.
Is this the answer to America’s problems…
… More Cheney?
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May 25th, 2009 at 1:42 pmI didn’t realize Texas had an opening for a new Propaganda Minister\Dog Catcher.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:43 pmI hope she does run. In this political climate, she’ll get the microscope treatment, and her father’s blatant nepotism will come back to bite her on the ass. What exactly were her qualifications for the post she was appointed to? Her opponent will have an easy time painting her as an extremist torture apologist. Whatever she thinks on other issues will be judged by her ability to defend herself, from charges of being too partisan for elective office, with her defense of torture, and her father’s regime.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:44 pmYea me too.
:|
And just keeps on running.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:47 pmThis from a guy who criticized our current president for be “unqualified”. After all, the only thing he ever accomplished was being a “community organizer”, right, C4P?
May 25th, 2009 at 1:48 pmOh please, please, please RUN!!!
I will thoroughly enjoy ripping into Liz Cheney — with her own words.
Maybe she’ll trot her 17 kids onto stages all over the country, and then piss and moan about media coverage of them…fun times.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:51 pmYeah that’s what America needs, more Cheney.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:55 pmRemember when these same people wailed about another Clinton and how dynasties should be outlawed…
Hypocrites
May 25th, 2009 at 1:55 pmralph: She has a lot more experience in foreign affairs than Obama did before he started his run for President.
And her experience before daddy appointed her?
Bupkis.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:57 pmShe has a lot more experience in foreign affairs than Obama did before he started his run for President. -CFP
As I recall the Bush foreign policy was they didnt talk to anyone…some experience
May 25th, 2009 at 1:57 pmLiz Cheney… running for public office? I thought the republicans were trying to keep their ship afloat, not start drilling holes in the bottom of it.
May 25th, 2009 at 1:59 pmShe won’t run though. Her opponent would put the whole debate on torture, and she’d spend so much time on defense, her own political take on other issues would be forgotten.
Mini-Cheney would be a trainwreck for her party.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:01 pmForeign country: “Hello, State Dept?”
Liz: “Liz Cheney, State Dept”
Foreign Country: “We would like to talk….”
Liz: “Shut up” [Click]
May 25th, 2009 at 2:01 pmShe has a great resume and history of public service. I hope she runs.
Yeah advocating tortue is a real resume booster!
What a great way to honor the troops by having the draft dodger’s daughter all over the TV.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:01 pmSanto Gnende Says:
Seek help, before they come and get you.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:02 pmlord I can’t spell today! Meant torture*
May 25th, 2009 at 2:10 pmYeah!!!! Let Liz run for office.
She’s just what the country needs…another heavy, fire breathing Cheney from the ‘Dark side’.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:11 pmLiz Cheney is a rising light in the GOP, and I hope they all rally behind her as a leading voice.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:12 pmThis seems unlikely for 2012. The Cheney name would only be popular with the 20% of so dead-enders who still support Bush and I doubt even that would be enough to get her out of the primary. There’s also the question of whether she even wants to run now. I read elsewhere that much of her recent appearances were to raise her father’s profile in a effort to secure a better book deal for him, rather than raise her own profile for elected office.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:13 pm“She’s a chip off the block!” said a longtime friend. [...]
Why do Liz Cheney’s friends hate her so much? ;)
May 25th, 2009 at 2:17 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
ralph: She has a lot more experience in foreign affairs than Obama did before he started his run for President.
goes to show experience does not matter in this respect. President Obama is very much liked and respected over seas.
I could just imagine how a person like Liz Cheney would outrage and upset other countries we strive to make peace with…. the priests would once again have a need to purify the sites where this person appeared.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:21 pmWe dont need no more Vulcans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vulcans
May 25th, 2009 at 2:21 pmLiz should run … to prison to see her dad.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pmThe spawn of cheenee — poor temperament, defends the worst of the worst, and CFP has the hots for her.
I wonder if the interview for her posts at State was conducted live feed to an undisclosed location (likely a spaceship)?
May 25th, 2009 at 2:25 pmYeah, you folks said the same thing about Sarah Palin.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:27 pm:\
Liz….is that you Liz..?
May 25th, 2009 at 2:29 pmSanto Gnende Says:
at lEAST SHe has Friends,Huh KapO….
This one is covered in spittle — who volunteers cleanup?
May 25th, 2009 at 2:29 pmIt amazes me how much influence good looks play to the goppers. But what I do not understand is the fact they are that stupid to think the rest of us will fall for it too.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:34 pmAmerica needs another Cheney in public office like it needs three more wars in the Middle East.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:36 pmWell, she does know where all the bodies are buried.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:36 pm“She’s a chip off the blockhead!” said a longtime friend. [...]
May 25th, 2009 at 2:38 pm“She (Liz Cheney) also lies routinely, accuses the president of helping terrorists, and is so mindless in her attacks on the nation’s elected leadership, she’s something of a national embarrassment,”
– - The apple didn’t fall far from the diseased Cheney tree.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:39 pma close friend of bin laden maybe.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:40 pm> She has a great resume
> and history
> of public service.
Yeah, she has a great history of spouting daddys taking points the day after he does, to try and but the same b@llsh@t in a better looking bag. Either the lady is just plagarizing things her daddy told her or shes seen documents which she almost certainly didnt have the clearance to see. I’m not aware of any rank she held in the Cheney adminsitration that would allow her legitimate access to the classified documents regarding the torture programs she’s making all these assertions about..
May 25th, 2009 at 2:41 pmLiz Cheney considering run for public office?
– - Great Wikipedia page. For photo, it has none, and says “No Free Image. Do you own one?” Learned from Daddy, no doubt.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:43 pmWell this is the best news ever! This is too fun-nee! the club of no keeps gulping on the stupid. They love it. Can’t these idiots find anything close to viable?
Sorry I can’t listen to the turd no more, his closeted fake voice makes me ill. I’ll take your word that the turd said that stupid remark, because he/they lie and is/are full of trickery.
What kind of reporting is that? Of course their “friends” are going to be encouraging, it’s called coattails. They like to be on them.
run stupid run, er, I mean, run cheney run.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:44 pmGreat another cheney in public office….watch more taxpayers dollars drained into the cheney family fortune. like father like daughter. both lowlife opportunists
May 25th, 2009 at 2:47 pmThe stink her dad has left in Washington will make it improbable she will run for anything except maybe a seat on Fox and Friends. History will find the Cheney’s on the wrong side of the torture debate–if it even is a debate.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:49 pmAren’t they forgetting the fact she is gay? I mean, I could give a crap what her sexual orientation is, but won’t that upset the Religious Right? I mean the Repug Party is constantly demeaning gays. Doesn’t that make them hypocrits?
May 25th, 2009 at 2:49 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
She has a great resume and history of public service. I hope she runs.
Excellent post!
she would fit right in with the rest of the teabaggers.
Remember teabagging is a wonderful thing.
Embrace the teabag.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:50 pmP.D. Says:
Aren’t they forgetting the fact she (Liz) is gay?
– - Her younger sister Mary is a lesbian, not Liz.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:55 pmP.D. Says:
Aren’t they forgetting the fact she is gay? I mean, I could give a crap what her sexual orientation is, but won’t that upset the Religious Right? I mean the Repug Party is constantly demeaning gays. Doesn’t that make them hypocrits?
May 25th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Wrong daughter, P.D. Mary Cheney is Liz’s gay sibling. They only trot out Mary at election time.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:57 pmMore like a buffalo chip . . .
May 25th, 2009 at 2:57 pmZooey@47, Thanks. I didn’t realize there were two of them. Either way, The name Cheney is toxic. Whenever I see either one of them, I think of torture and the Iraq War. I’m sure the majority of Americans feel the same way.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:59 pmLiz Cheney considering run for public office?
Great idea! She uniquely combines the Darth Vader qualities of her father with the shrew-like character of her mother.
I can’t think of a better representative of the right-wing of the republican party.
May 25th, 2009 at 2:59 pmMore B.S. from the family of lying propagandists who have a history of having false stories “leaked” out to the press.
My money is on this story being another fabrication to silence/distract the speculation that the Cheney’s are on tv 24/7 because they are trying to deter a future investigation/prosecution and prison sentence for Big Dick, the straight shooter.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:02 pmThe turd doesn’t fall far from the ass.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:02 pmYep, what a winner. Palin, Plumber, Jindal, Limbaugh, Steele, Gingrich, etc..Liz Cheney would fit right in with the other losers in the GOP.
And for anyone – ANYONE – to infer Liz Cheney’s credentials are even in the same league as President Obama’s has got to be the all time high water mark for foolishness and outlandish remarks.
BTW: Anyone else find it strange that the GOP cannot find an elected member of the GOP to go on these shows much anymore?
May 25th, 2009 at 3:02 pmP.D. Says:
Aren’t they forgetting the fact she is gay?
That’s Mary. But I’ve made the same mistake too. Imagine how many voters would get them confused as well. And she’d turn any campaign she was in anywhere into nothing more than another referendum on her father’s policies – or if she didn’t the media would. Yeah, this is a terrific idea.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:03 pmI forgot to add this suggestion for her campaign bumper-sticker:
She’s two . . . two . . . two wingnuts in one.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:04 pmJeb Bush/Liz Cheney 2012!
May 25th, 2009 at 3:05 pmDoodlebug@56, OMG! Don’t even kid around like that! I just got a chill up my spine!
May 25th, 2009 at 3:07 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
Jeb Bush/Liz Cheney 2012!
LOL. The name Bush is unelectable for at least ten cycles. Cheney is probably even less electable. If the GOP wants to be in the wilderness for a generation, please run Bush/Cheney again. Ha Ha…I needed my morning laugh. Thanks…
May 25th, 2009 at 3:08 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
Jeb Bush/Liz Cheney 2012!
May 25th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
**gag**
May 25th, 2009 at 3:13 pmspeculation that the Cheney’s are on tv 24/7 because they are trying to deter a future investigation/prosecution and prison sentence for Big Dick
The other theory I have heard is that the Cheneys are angling for their own reality TV show. It would undoubtedly be filmed in “an undisclosed location”. The plot lines are endless for such a show — “Quail-hunting with Dick”, “Cocktail Hour with Dick and Lynn”, etc.
I am sure that all you creative TP posters can come up with some more great ideas.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:17 pmMore than the perpetuation of an evil regime, I am so frakking tired of all this dynasty building that Washington insiders are so fond of. I don’t want to see Liz Cheney OR Caroline Kennedy OR Chelsea Clinton OR Mitt Romney OR Lawrence Rockefeller OR ‘Steve’ Forbes OR ‘Pete’ duPont OR john Sidney McCain IIIushered into the corridors of power. And I don’t want them gushed over by Chris Wallace, Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, or Michael Reagan, either.
No more dynasties.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:19 pmCould you imagine what the world would think if we had Jeb Bush and Liz Cheney in 2012? They already think we are dumb-asses for electing Georgie twice. God! I would flee the U.S. if that happens.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:19 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
She has a great resume and history of public service.
A great “resume” of being a torture apologist and “history” of lying for his war criminal dad. “Great” credentials huh C4P?
ConservativeForProgress Says:
I hope she runs.
Good for you. *cookie*
I hope she runs alright…..into a runaway freight train.
C4P, do America a favor and go play Russian Roulette with a fully loaded pistol.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:21 pmCheney/Palin, or Palin/Cheney?
now there’s a terrifying thought…
May 25th, 2009 at 3:24 pmI am sure that all you creative TP posters can come up with some more great ideas.
How about ‘Liz’s Dick’?
May 25th, 2009 at 3:26 pmSeems like the GOP is counting on Americans developing short term memory loss! LOL – They think Americans will tolerate the election of another Cheney – after all this country has gone through with the first Cheney?!! I’d love to see Liz try. Please do it and we’ll have the opportunity to watch the GOP go down in flames!
May 25th, 2009 at 3:32 pmStratRat Says:
C4P says: I am sure that all you creative TP posters can come up with some more great ideas.
StratRat Says: How about ‘Liz’s Dick’
SOOOOOO that’s Dickwad’s new book??
May 25th, 2009 at 3:35 pmShe’s a block off the old ship…
May 25th, 2009 at 3:39 pmHer ship sank before she boarded it.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:42 pmThere is a word the begins with a C and ends with a T and has two letters in between that women despise that Liz Cheney and women like her are responsible for. She is one of the reasons the word is in existence.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:45 pmIt will be fun to see how Liz Cheney, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, and Mitt Romney grovel their way to the top of the GOP scrap heap in 2012. Of course, don’t forget about Minnesota’s own Tim Pawlenty who likely saw his national political ambitions fall into the Mississippi River August 1, 2007 along with the 35W Bridge.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:47 pmkasinca Says:
There is a word the begins with a C and ends with a T and has two letters in between that women despise that Liz Cheney and women like her are responsible for. She is one of the reasons the word is in existence.
C
U
Next
Tuesday?
May 25th, 2009 at 3:48 pmAmazing that this daughter of the most disgusting Vice President, aka the real president of that era, is even being considered as a candidate for anything. However, who can explain the electorate when they elected the Cheney Bush cabal to run things and we all know what a mess they made. However, few in my old party are willing to face up to just how miserable of a job they did so I expect Republicans to be out of vogue for years to come. I know that I will not vote Republican till they get a candidate such as Powell or Ridge. Then, alas, Republicans MIGHT have a chance of winning.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:49 pmThe Republicans will never see the inside of the Oval Office again after the mess they left behind. They will go the way of the Whigs and the Federalists. Obscurity.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:52 pmLiz could probably win from Wyoming.
Seriously.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:53 pm……..and Texastan and Alaskastan…….and Wyomingstan.
good luck winning with a 20% voter base.
May 25th, 2009 at 3:55 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
she has a great resume and history of public service as in she is a brainwashed moron who spews the Limborg rightwing talking points without regard to truth or reality like YOU so you like her. Got it
May 25th, 2009 at 3:56 pmBadmoodman Says:
– Great Wikipedia page. For photo, it has none, and says “No Free Image. Do you own one?” Learned from Daddy, no doubt.
Couldn’t they just as easily used a picture of Tonya Harding?
I read her wiki page. She wasn’t doing such a good job in the ME now was she? I find it curious that female married children don’t use their married names. Her name is Perry. Why isn’t she Liz Perry? Why isn’t Mika Brzezinski, Mika Hoffer?
May 25th, 2009 at 4:00 pmralph it doesn’t matter how high the polls show, it doesn’t make a difference if these teabaggers polls are high because these idiots don’t have power. They are gone, thank God.
The trick is having high ratings when their stupidasses were in office. After losing power their words mean shit.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:07 pmAPEC not OPEC Says:
I find it curious that female married children don’t use their married names. Her name is Perry. Why isn’t she Liz Perry? Why isn’t Mika Brzezinski, Mika Hoffer?
May 25th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Women don’t have to take their husband’s name if we don’t want to. :)
I think Liz will keep the name until the shit gets too deep to be a Cheney — then she will be Liz Perry.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pmSanto, watch out for the Kohe Lele….
Heh
May 25th, 2009 at 4:14 pmLizs’ husband was also a lobbyist for Lockheed Martin…
But says:
“The term ‘revolving door’ implies people going in and out of government in order to obtain monetary gain. The reason people go into government is to serve their country. It’s not appropriate to describe that as a ‘revolving door.”
Lockheed Martin is government..whoknu?
May 25th, 2009 at 4:20 pmThe fact is, this all just specious third-person fantasizing to fill time a 24-hour “news” channel that currently has no “news” to report (Dems doing well = FAUX has nothing to put on the air). Liz Cheney isn’t going to run for anything for the same reason that none of the rest of the unelected “leading voices of the Republican party” aren’t going to run for anything. She’d lose any actual election for anything, just about anywhere. And she can’t afford to risk actually losing anything, at least not when compared to being able to run her “daddy was really great” campaign from any news/talk show willing to have her on. She gets just as much of a platform for her “opinions” without ever actually having to have them tested by referendum.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:29 pmIt’d be high comedy if, after so vociferously defending her dad and his policies, and while running for elective office, her dad was indicted for war crimes, by Garzon, the Spanish judge. Then we’d be treated to the sight of her lamely trying to distance herself from her father’s past decisions and acts. She’s never been under that kind of pressure, being the nepotistic appointment to a mid-level government job. Would she yet again suit up for battle, or weasel out on ol’ dad?
May 25th, 2009 at 4:31 pmLet me get this straight…
She’s spending all of this time appearing on the MSM to defend her corrupt, war profiteering, war criminal, murduring, torturing piece of sh|t father?
Or…
She’s spending all of this time appearing on the MSM to run for office which will require her to defend her corrupt, war profiteering, war criminal, murduring, torturing piece of sh|t father?
May 25th, 2009 at 4:47 pm“She’s awesome. Everyone wants her to run,” said a close friend.
Have any of these close friends given even a second of thought to which office she should seek? Or is she supposed to get her father’s powers no matter which office she holds?
Have they given any thought to this at all?
May 25th, 2009 at 4:53 pmGood Grief!
May 25th, 2009 at 4:54 pmWe may be inflicted by the spawn of the evil one.
I hope it is just wishful thinking by the followers of the dark side.
Fried Your Tomtaos
May 25th, 2009 at 4:57 pmHmmm, Liz Cheney can head up the New American Torture Party!!
YAY!!
Where’s my teabag???
May 25th, 2009 at 4:59 pmYer too funny, OS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
I guess that means your torturing heroes *are* Americans?
Yeah, right.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:00 pmConservatives aren’t Americans because the word conservative was coined buy a french guy who wanted to keep the old order of king, clergy and powerless masses. Something Americans dont want…royalty.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:02 pmLet’s hope the right wing continues to adhere itself to the very people that broke America and who today want America to fail! That ought to win them some elections. Oh yes.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:05 pmOS Says:
progressives aren’t Americans.
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Florda GOP’s all-white ticket for 2010 may be liability
At a time when the Florida electorate is growing increasingly diverse, the Republican party is gearing up to field an all-male, all-white slate in 2010.
In contrast, the Democratic front-runners for the top of the ticket are U.S. Rep. Kendrick Meek, a 42-year-old African American running for the U.S. Senate, and Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink for governor, who would be the state’s first female chief executive. A handful of Hispanic and Jewish Democrats are potentially in the mix for attorney general and chief financial officer.
“It’s something I see as an advantage for Florida voters, that the Democratic ticket could end up looking like it represents Florida’s population,” said Ana Cruz, a top Meek advisor.
Heh.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:06 pmAmazingly they ignored the ‘flashing red lights’ and ignored the terrorists, before 911 in flight school…never questioned a one.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:07 pmXisithrus@26
Condi’s pic is weird looking. She looks likes she’s a ghost. I think she is lighter than chimpy.
HAHAHAHAHA
May 25th, 2009 at 5:10 pmO(pen)S(ewer):
LOL!
How white IS your party?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:11 pmOS Says: I crank up the hate for America.
There. Fixed it for ya. ;)
May 25th, 2009 at 5:12 pmWe don’t need to crank it up. We’ve been storing it up since you thieves stole the presidency from Al Gore in 2000. All the other things Bush and Cheney did to the country just stoked the fire that was smoldering. You traitors want to act like that didn’t happen. That you’re just hating on Obama the way we did on Bush. Big difference in that Obama won a decisive VICTORY. But that doesn’t mean anything to you unpatriotic teabaggers who put party before country every time.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:13 pmOh God I hope she runs. With the face of such extremism on TV week in and week out, it’ll do more for the demise of the GOP as we know it now. Any remaining sane, moderate Republicans, who are staying because they think can save it, will finally put their hands up in frustration and leave. With more folks like Liz Cheney, the GOP WILL become a permanent, regional, extreme and _ in the end _ irrelevant political party.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:15 pmPeople don’t DIE from being “interrogated” dumba$$. Keep watching Fox News moron.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:15 pm““She’s a chip off the block!” said a longtime friend.”
May 25th, 2009 at 5:15 pmi think she should run with that slogan, featured on a poster with her and her old man with that quote photoshopped over the pic.
Americans don’t believe in torture. That’s a FACT. Traitor.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:17 pmHonestly, I don’t think I could crank up the hate I have for the American Taliban (today’s republic party), because as of right now, my hate level for them has gone past Jupiter. It can’t get any higher at this point. Anyone know how to lower it, because it’s getting heavy? I was thinking if President Obama’s attorneys could make it law on paper that rounding up the neocons of America and then offing them would be legal, just, and the best thing to happen to America since illegal waterboarding, I’m thinking this might help….A LOT. Thank you President Obama!
May 25th, 2009 at 5:18 pmIdiot Proud got confused and thinks he’s at one of his hatefilled reichwingnut sites. What a moron.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:18 pmOS – Outwardly Simpleminded?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:19 pmNo, Shayne, Overtly Simpleminded.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:20 pmOS why are you accusing progressives of not being American? Liz Cheney is anti-American, as well as her father Dick Cheney. If they truly cared about America, then they wouldn’t attempt to continue lying and covering up the truth about their torture campaign. You’re blind to the facts. We could attach links and draw pictures and you will remain willfully ignorant.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:20 pmOS Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 5:20 pm“progressives aren’t Americans.”
still peddling the same divisive bullsyte that cost you the house, the senate and the presidency? i say, carry on, continue the good work!
Be warned Teabaggers, Bush, Cheney, Gingrich or any other of you traitors steal one more election and you’ll start the revolution.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:21 pmproud mary@114,
May 25th, 2009 at 5:22 pmso, that’s what you repukes call lying whores for their daddies who aren’t man enough to step up to the plate and testify under oath? a “strong woman”, that’s rich.
We’re not talking about her stink.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:22 pmProud, Liz is a LIAR just like her father Darth.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:22 pmwaterboarding = ENHANCED INTERROGATION TECHNIQUE
steroids = PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENT DRUGS
See? Neither waterboarding nor steroids are bad when we rename them to make them sound better or to make it seem without either we would die or wouldn’t be able to function without these enhancements! *looking under my chair for wmd too*
May 25th, 2009 at 5:23 pmProud Says:
Another strong woman for you so called “progresives” to smear.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I don’t remember ’smearing’ any ’strong women’, do you guys?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:23 pmTypical teabagger Proud. All Republican women are “strong” to you idiots. That’s because all intelligent women are not Republicans.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:23 pmprogressives aren’t Americans.
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May 25th, 2009 at 5:23 pmI highly recommend Skolnik’s “I am the American”
OS Says:
progressives aren’t Americans.
Only America hating traitorous cowards like yourself condone torture. REAL AMERICANS DON’T! FACT!
As the son of a WW2 vet who was with the 87th Airborne Division and the brother of a Vietnam vet who was a Green Beret, I exercise my duty as an AMERICAN to tell you to go kill yourself.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:24 pmA strong woman to you is one who supports the torturing of people, who hates peace, who lies at the drop of a hat, who deceits at the drop of her skirt, and who supports the American Taliban in their quest of Christian jihad on America/Americans to prove that she loves our country and wants it to fail under Obama?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:24 pmOS Says:
Or is she supposed to get her father’s powers no matter which office she holds?
You mean like the kennedy’s?
Yeah, but the opposite of the Kennedy family hugh LEGACY, buckshot and his family are more on the darkside, killing machines, ruin the USA, screw the poor, love being idiots side.
People still love the Kennedys. Still now! Not the laughable, silly, phoney remark that chimpy made; in 50 yrs they will love me, junk. FUN-NEE.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
buckshot’s klan won’t get a clipped Kennedys’ toenail worth of that UNITED STATES love.
But I get your point os.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:25 pmHey, laugh all you want. These dipshits will want Palin?Cheney(Liz) the next round.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:25 pmThink about it. They’ll want to have to first all female ticket. They’ll get all of the old guard.Plus a whole lotta the women to vote for them. At least that will be there strategy.
And to some extent it will work.
These clowns are far from being dead.
Damn. That was supposed to be Palin/Cheney.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:25 pmI’ll donate all the money I can to who ever runs against these traitors who support torture.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:26 pmJane E. Schneider! You suck man!!!!!! You’re the worst….no different than Nancy Pelosi, you know, the woman who makes the right wing of America drop to their arses and drage their butts across the floor like a dog with worms!!!! You’re insatiable.
[just a little smear to you darn strong progressive women!]
May 25th, 2009 at 5:26 pmmudsharks buddy
May 25th, 2009 at 5:28 pmfailin palin was a liability last election. she frightened women who weren’t bible banging born agains.
Proud Says:
Another strong woman for you so called “progresives” to smear.
No, another wrong woman for us progressives to refute.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:29 pmohhh look, proud mary can’t logically deny what anyone is saying so he’s parading around with a strawman in front of him. SWEET!
May 25th, 2009 at 5:29 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
I’ll donate all the money I can to who ever runs against these traitors who support torture
Count me in there as well.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:29 pmProud Says:
“You have nothing but love for terrorists, why not Liz.”
liz cheney is a terrorist. why should i love her?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:30 pmOS Says:
24,639 days since a democrat president allowed the japanese to bomb pearl harbor….
Proof?
No?
Shocker!!
Truly OS, you put the path in pathetic.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:31 pmProud:
May 25th, 2009 at 5:32 pmThis love thing isn’t really workin’. Would you like a do over? I would support that…
Hey, I’m not kiddin.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:33 pmThere setting the stage for her right now.
They’ll build on the Palin thing by backing Liz Cheeeeney.
Then they’ll combine the two. And It’ll be a Palin/ Cheeeney ticket. Provided Cheeeney goes along with being VP.
Now, that’s the caveat. Will she be willing to take the back seat. I think she will. Then she’ll make a move on the front seat.
Who knows? Maybe they’ll be able to set the whole world on fire. You know. Finish her dads work.
So Liz Cheney’s motivation for appearing on all these talk shows was not to defend her father but to advance her own career? Looks like hypocrisy runs in the family, she has proved herself worthy to be real Republican candidate. While the love of a daughter for her father is thing of beauty, hypocrisy is worth millions in campaign contributions.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:33 pmChocolate Jesus Says:
> She has a great resume
> and history
> of public service.
Yeah, she has a great history of spouting daddys taking points the day after he does, to try and but the same b@llsh@t in a better looking bag. Either the lady is just plagarizing things her daddy told her or shes seen documents which she almost certainly didnt have the clearance to see. I’m not aware of any rank she held in the Cheney adminsitration that would allow her legitimate access to the classified documents regarding the torture programs she’s making all these assertions about..
That is an excellent point, and one I wish the Justice Dept would investigate. It;s not enough to have a security clearance high enough to see classified information. You also have to have a need to know. Simple curiosity or being the child of the vice president does not qualify as “a need to know.” I want this one investigated. If she access to classified material, it was quite likely illegal. And if she didn’t have that access, then she is making shit up.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:35 pmAnother thing OS & Proud, we don’t have to hate. The GOP is about to tear itself to pieces on their own. Have you seen CNN today? Cheney and Limbaugh are trying to kick Powell out of the GOP and people favor Powell over Cheney and Limbaugh put together. Darth’s ratings aren’t getting any better.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:35 pmOS Says:
24,639 days since a democrat president allowed the japanese to bomb pearl harbor….
Surely your not that stupid?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:35 pmIf this is all you have, I suggest you stop taking drugs and give up drinking too..
OS Says:
“24,639 days since a democrat president allowed the japanese to bomb pearl harbor….”
and that same democratic president managed to close the deal and end a WORLD WAR in four years. how long has the repukes jaunt through iraq been going on?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:35 pmmudsharks buddy Says:
OS Says:
24,639 days since a democrat president allowed the japanese to bomb pearl harbor….
Surely your not that stupid?
If this is all you have, I suggest you stop taking drugs and give up drinking too..
And I think he should combine the two in copious amounts.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:35 pmJust a couple of more topics you know nothing about. Obviously we don’t love terrorists. And people who support torturing people to get false intel that supports their war crimes are terrorist doing more damage to this country than any middle eastern group could ever do.
We are working our way back to find out all the ways you people have manipulated the destruction of this country. We’re going back to the JFK assassination to find out why GHW Bush was there and then we’re going to work our way through Watergate, Iran Contra, 9/11, Nixon, Ford, Reagan deregulation, etc. etc. etc. and when it’s all over we’re going to need a new second party.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:37 pmThanks, Kay! :D How’s the weather in Maine today?
We have stronger women here at TP than freakin’ Liz Cheney or Sarah Palin combined!
May 25th, 2009 at 5:37 pman honest question for proud mary:
May 25th, 2009 at 5:38 pmdo you do sexy times with yourself while looking at a picture of liz cheney or do you prefer using a pic of her old man?
Well, she can B.S. with the best of them. I always feel the need to put on my hip-waders whenever she is being interviewed.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:38 pmOS,
May 25th, 2009 at 5:39 pmwhat’s the matter lil girl, can’t answer a simple question?
Ask yourself how many more vets will die under obamas watch, ok?
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May 25th, 2009 at 5:41 pmWill I need to find the square root of that or maybe the cosine or some usch shit? Or is this an imaginary number?
When America tortures, the terrorists win. Food for thought OS, C4P and Proud imbecile. So does it make you feel good that you support terrorists?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:41 pmDoes anyone think that this was LCheney’s idea?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:42 pmDoes anyone think that she is doing this solely for the love of her father?
Not a chance.
And yes, Palin proved to be a liability to the GOPers. To us.
They can’t/don’t see it that way.
OS Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 5:44 pm“obama made 43 invade iraq and now it’s his fault”
what a tool
OS Says:
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how long has the repukes jaunt through iraq been going on?
Ask yourself how many more vets will die under obamas watch?
You’re just blowing smoke out of your a$$. Too many have died under The Bush Crime Family’s watch already.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:44 pmLiz and her father are a couple of wmd. Nothing good comes from them no matter how much you pretty them up.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:45 pmJust remember this OS.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:45 pmAll this came about because Boosh failed to read a PDB dated Aug 6th.
Had he read that, and paid attention to the warnings from the previous admin. He might have been able to thwart all of it.
More than likely could have. But no. He did it his way. The GOP way. And look where it got us?
You don’t have a leg to stand on. All you’re doing is throwing
bullshit out there. To see if it sticks. Goebbels would be proud..
George Bush ignored North Korea and Dick Cheney for 8 years. Look where it got us…
May 25th, 2009 at 5:46 pmproud mary,
May 25th, 2009 at 5:47 pmrecylcing your strawmen i see.
I did not call Condi a Vulcan, thats the name she called her group after the Vulcan statue in Birmingham from where she hails.
But thanks for playing
May 25th, 2009 at 5:47 pmOS Says:
“obama made 43 invade iraq and now it’s his fault”
Obama wasn’t even a US Senator when “43″ invaded Iraq you assblossom so how is it his fault? This post further exposes you as an imbecile with the IQ of a shit kernal. Further evidence you cannot see beyond Liz Cheney’s boobs. You are a rube.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:48 pmProud.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:48 pmThis is a classic case of cognitive dissonance.
Do you think this kind of screw up can be fixed in a month? 2 Months?
6 Months. 6 Years? A decade? MORE?
Yeah sfb’s it’s gonna take more than a little while to fix this massive fook up.
honestly, we’ve got tag-tag stupid going on here with proud mary and os
May 25th, 2009 at 5:49 pmProud Says:
Another strong woman for you so called “progresives” to smear.
I know what you mean. Progressives smeared mooseyak when she said she read all of them, all of them meant all the reading material that crosses her desk. Is that hard to understand?
then she just made a slight error when racist were a little out of hand she whenever she said the code words, “palling around with terrorists” once in a while.
I understand where you are coming from, proud.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:49 pm*tag-team that is
May 25th, 2009 at 5:50 pmLiz Cheney is a chick with a dick.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:51 pmI hear Proud has a vagina.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:53 pmBush said he wanted to close Gitmo..remember?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:53 pmI hear Proud is a vagina.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:53 pmOh, and Proud.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:53 pmYou should consider changing your moniker.
Because you have nothing to be proud of.
Proud, can you tell us what you’re really proud of? I would be interested in hearing your answer(s) to this question…
May 25th, 2009 at 5:54 pmkay,
May 25th, 2009 at 5:54 pmare you sure you want to open that pandora’s box?
Sorry Mudsharks! I should have hit ‘refresh’ before typing my question to Proud. LOL Oh well, we made a good point. ;-)
May 25th, 2009 at 5:55 pmYes. I want to see how close it sounds to Mein Kampf. LOL
May 25th, 2009 at 5:56 pmBozo The Neoclown Says:
I hear Proud is a vagina.
I’m suing. You stole my words. Grrrrrrrrrr……
May 25th, 2009 at 5:58 pmKay.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:58 pmYou really have to laugh it all off. It’s so absurd.
All they can do is try to stir shit up with no real facts.
They have their facts. But those aren’t real or honest. Much like Glennis Beckass. Just opinion based facts. There not real facts.
Proud Troll get’s an F- for spelling “response” as “responce”. *hitting buzzer to go to next round*
May 25th, 2009 at 5:58 pmproud mary,
can you provide a link to an article stating the policy of illegal wiretapping with a FISA warrant is still taking place?
tribunals work? really, what is the conviction rate of the men held at gitmo as oppossed to those repatriated without a trial of any sort?
May 25th, 2009 at 5:59 pmWow please, how bout a Cheney/Palin ticket? The way the “THUGS” are rolling now a days they would probably get aroused at the thought. I would seriously consider checking out Canada’s health care plan first hand!
May 25th, 2009 at 5:59 pm*without
May 25th, 2009 at 6:00 pmExactly. You couldn’t possibly know this….but….I’m sitting here with laugh tears draining down the front of my face from laughing at us liberals, the pathetic troll, and how the Cheney’s think they have a serious shot at running for office ever again! LOL *shaking head*
May 25th, 2009 at 6:01 pmWiretapping works…wiretapping has been around since (R)Hoover and in the wrong hands its used criminally (R) Nixon and it was working until the LIHOP folks closed down the operation that knew of the attackers.
And rendition, which is illegal, started under the Clinton admin.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:02 pmIf boosh had done his job instead of going on vacation, none of this would have happened. And we wouldn’t be in this situation. So by saying this works or that works or even it doesn’t work. Is besides the point. The point is that Boosh failed the country and left us more unsafe.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:03 pmSo Proud, what are you proud of? Being a complete imbecile?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:03 pmIntrepid,
May 25th, 2009 at 6:05 pmhe’s “proud” that he’s earned his way out of restraints and internet time on the library’s computer at the loony bin.
Kay.
They look pretty stupid and petty now, don’t they.
Here. This is for you.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:05 pmHey, laugh all you want. These dipshits will want Palin?Cheney(Liz) the next round.
Think about it. They’ll want to have to first all female ticket. They’ll get all of the old guard.Plus a whole lotta the women to vote for them. At least that will be there strategy.
And to some extent it will work.
These clowns are far from being dead.
It will work like the last election.
We progressives/liberals/dems are the majority and people don’t want willy-nilly repugs’ wars, buddy bumping, lying, stealing dipshits.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:06 pmOMG…
May 25th, 2009 at 6:07 pmBozo The Neoclown Says:
Intrepid,
he’s “proud” that he’s earned his way out of restraints and internet time on the library’s computer at the loony bin.
Too bad they had to confiscate his beanie cap so they can give him a frontal lobotomy. No wonder he’s a sponge.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:08 pmThanks for the song, Mudsharks! Love it. I saw the Kinks back in the 1980’s. ;-)
For some reason I always think of this song when cracking troll skulls together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wO_6wMRS7A&feature=related
Not sure why. I don’t even like this kind of music, but I think it might be because I just like to add more fuel to the fire, like my trolls beans burnt to the bottom of the pot, and just feel so silly inside! LOL
May 25th, 2009 at 6:09 pmWow Proud and OS are on a roll today. I guess the hospital must have let them out for a vacation day and forgot to medicate them.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:10 pmThen again, Proud is great comedy. He’s the gift that keeps on giving.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:10 pmWe’re not answering another one of your pathetic little questions until you tell us what makes you proud. Thanks pal.
(If President Obama was truly continuing everything Bush/Cheney did, you would be on your knees worshiping the man at the moment with your tongue out!)
May 25th, 2009 at 6:11 pmTalk out your ass, much?
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May 25th, 2009 at 6:13 pmF uck yeah.
Proud says:
May 25th, 2009 at 6:13 pmYeah being a superb community organizer won Obama the White House!
Obama’s skills will help him have a successful presidency too – in spite of the mess left behind by BushCo.
Cheney listened to Feiths alternative intelligence ergo his policies are flawed.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:14 pmProud: Your guys created this mess. It’s going to take time to sort it all out. What do you suggest? Let them all go.Oh, that’s right Boosh already tried that didn’t he? The ones he did let go are pretty pissed off. So, i they weren’t terrrist’s then, They are now.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:15 pmOS:
Hey, Your party loves these two. LOL!
ooppss That would be if they weren’t terrrists.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:17 pmWhich raises another question. How do you know they were terrrists if they never got a trial?
Yes, he’s doing a bangup job as of right now
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May 25th, 2009 at 6:17 pmHave you investments stabilized yet? Mine have….
Bang up job!!
May 25th, 2009 at 6:18 pmI’m outta here.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:24 pmI’m gonna go over to the cemetery. And thank those who’ve fallen.
I have better things to do than sit here and argue with people who don’t know the difference between right and wrong.
Have a peaceful day folks. Many fought and died for this. Don’t let the trolls get to you.
George Bush & Dick Cheney had zero skills, well that is, if you ignore their skill at wrecking America and lying to the American people to get their illegal occupations of countries that did not attack us.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:25 pmThe housing bubble imploded well before Obama took office, but hey, dont let a big fib change your story.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:26 pmWe have soldiers in our military right now that know how to make bombs, so what’s your point? Where’s your proof that we have bomb-makers at GITMO?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:26 pmOS.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:27 pmThat comment excludes you from jury duty.
hasta.
Obama was president in 2004 if you live in Orwellia
May 25th, 2009 at 6:27 pmIt’s kind of amazing.
Where’s Osama Bin Laden?
Why is Al Qaeda stronger than ever?
To paraphrase Arthur Dent, this must be a definition of the word ‘works” with which I was not previously acquainted.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:27 pmRemember when George Bush said he INHERITED A RECESSION from Clinton? Gee Proud, can you list out all the things George Bush did to make sure America got out of his inherited recession. Thanks pal.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:28 pmProud Says:
Just answer the question. Are the Bush/Cheney policies that President Obama is continuing the right policies or is President Obama just too inept to come up with his own solutions?
Fixed it for you.
And the answer is “don’t be such a moron, Proud.”
Cheney torture: gone
Cheney Gitmo: closing
Cheney indefinite imprisonment: reduced to minuscule, if not to zero numbers
Cheney alienation from rest of planet: gone
Cheney anti-Constitutional “vice president”: gone
Try to pay more attention.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:30 pmProud who the hell is Bambi? Your mama?!
May 25th, 2009 at 6:31 pmhttp://ml-implode.com/
Since 2006 some 345 major us lending operations have imploded
Bang Up Job!!
May 25th, 2009 at 6:34 pmBack on topic, I wonder what Liz’s chances are once Dead Eye Dick is indicted and prosecuted and jailed?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:39 pmROTFLMAOFFFFFFF!
May 25th, 2009 at 6:40 pmheh!
these clowns are funny.:)
Ok folks, I’m outta here for real this time. My wife is in the truck and I gotta go.
I’ll see you good folks later.
OS Says:
How do you know they were terrrists if they never got a trial?
Maybe the bombs they were making?
And how would you know that they were making bombs if the evidence is never submitted at a trial?
So, even the people picked up off the battlefield were all making bombs?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:42 pmMost were picked up on the battlefield.
You think they were “making bombs” on the battlefield?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:43 pmOkay, I’m fairly new here, but I have a question about the likes of Proud and OS. Do these ‘people’ (I use the term loosely) come here before they are bitter and angry and want to try to rain on our parade, or are they just attention seekers who want any kind of attention even if it’s negative, or are they people who are bullied and miserable in their own lives and come here to take out their frustration on others. It’s clear that they don’t really want intelligent debate and they can’t really think they’re going to convert anyone. I would never think of going on a conservative site and start slinging insults or throwing out liberal talking points. I don’t understand what their motivation is.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:46 pmIntrepid Says:
Bozo The Neoclown Says:
I hear Proud is a vagina.
May 25th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Ummmm, is there something wrong with having a vagina? Do you guys really want to throw the entire female sex under the bus in order to insult a stupid troll?
**arms crossed, foot tapping**
May 25th, 2009 at 6:46 pmObviously Special thinks that all dark-skinned men in custody are guilty of something.
Evidence is for hippies, right OS?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:46 pmNo Zooey, just Liz Cheney…
Doesn’t that name just have a tire flattened, juice oozing ring to it?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:48 pmOS Says:
Have you investments stabilized yet?
Yea, I just picked up a million dollar property for 500 thou. Thanks, obama!
Is it on Park Place?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:54 pmSanto Gnende Says:
at lEAST SHe has Friends,Huh KapO….
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At least zooey has a brain, huh MORON? My God you are stupid. Why dont you go sit in the corner and STFU troll?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:55 pmProudMORON
You worthless piece of dogshite. What an ignorant punk you are. So stupid you cant even think up your own dumb attempts at humor you have to repeat the ones you have been programmed with. You are the stupidest, most pathetic piece of human debris I have ever seen. Dont you just get despondent? Dont you just cry thinking that for the rest of your life you will be YOU? Stupid, brainwashed, pathetic YOU?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:57 pmI dunno hyacinthgirl. I think thats best left to a team of psychologists who could write a whole series of books on them.
May 25th, 2009 at 6:58 pmNO!…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapo_(mythology)
May 25th, 2009 at 7:00 pmOS Says:
Crank up the hate, progressives!
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Crank up the STUPID troll.
May 25th, 2009 at 7:00 pmProud and OS especially like the type of attention they get from commenters like EugeneDebs. Then they go into the bathroom and lock the door.
May 25th, 2009 at 7:01 pmOstentatiously Stupid
Drops some trollturds, tells some lies. Shows just how astonishingly stupid and worthless he is and basically defines pathetic and ignorant for us.
May 25th, 2009 at 7:01 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
You think they were “making bombs” on the battlefield?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Of course not. The key word there being think. Obviously stupid doesnt think. He isnt capable of higher brain function he regurgitates what the Limborg programs him with. He is a morons MORON
May 25th, 2009 at 7:04 pmYou’re not making yourself clear, EugeneDebs. Can you elaborate some more? Please? I beg you!
May 25th, 2009 at 7:05 pmWhen you can’t refute, make a personal attack. Olbyloon rule #1.
Actually if you bothered to read the last thread, I refuted you several times. It’s hard using logic when your idea of wit consists of the same tired phrases. You bore me hun.
And yes I do like Olbermann. What is it about people with brains that intimidate you so much?
May 25th, 2009 at 7:08 pmIf you repeat the name Liz Cheney very rapidly it starts to come out as “loose change”…
May 25th, 2009 at 7:08 pmZooey, we have pretty vaginas. Proud? Not so much. Look what comes out of his…
http://www.treehugger.com/elephant-poop-paper-printed.jpg
*plugging nose* gawd it’s hideous & vile!
May 25th, 2009 at 7:08 pmOkay, I’m fairly new here, but I have a question about the likes of Proud and OS. Do these ‘people’ (I use the term loosely) come here before they are bitter and angry and want to try to rain on our parade, or are they just attention seekers who want any kind of attention even if it’s negative, or are they people who are bullied and miserable in their own lives and come here to take out their frustration on others. It’s clear that they don’t really want intelligent debate and they can’t really think they’re going to convert anyone. I would never think of going on a conservative site and start slinging insults or throwing out liberal talking points. I don’t understand what their motivation is.
I tried asking the same things when I came here. It’s always a question the trolls avoid. Some of them are capable of having intellegent conversations but the rest are just stupid to be quiet honest. Then when you point out their obvious stupidity, they whine about you having nothing better to say. It goes on :)
As a psychologist, my guess on motivation is the need for attention in their otherwise dull lives. I’m also pretty sure some of them either are children or think like children.
May 25th, 2009 at 7:11 pmI don’t get it either, hyacinthgirl. I could be drunker than John Barrymore and I still would never even think of going on a conservative site. And the strangest thing is, is that some trolls actually get their noses out of joint when we hit back. It’s sadism–and that is why they are pro-torture.;)
May 25th, 2009 at 7:12 pmAlright, Proud and OS, you guys have been in there long enough.
May 25th, 2009 at 7:15 pmOS seems to prefer a one-party country. Maybe he/she/it should try North Korea.
OS Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 7:23 pmprogressives aren’t Americans.
I still can never figure out why any “conservative” would spend so much time and emotional energy at a liberal, progressive site trying to convince members that Gingrich, Cheney, and Limbaugh are rational, competent people deserving of our respect and attention. Clearly, by both their words and actions–today’s “GOP Leadership” in the face of Gingrich, Cheney, and Limbaugh are disgraced, discredited, and laughable losers.
May 25th, 2009 at 7:25 pmMaybe the repubs can get that Bush/Cheney theme going again.
May 25th, 2009 at 7:43 pmJeb Bush and Liz Cheney. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Just what the country needs, two more crime lords to ruin the country further.
Jeb can rent the ranch from George, and Lizzy can redecorate a couple of daddy’s old bunkers.
May 25th, 2009 at 7:46 pmDoesn’t she have 3 or 4 kids? Who’s gonna stay home and take care of the little nippers? Between her and Sarah, they’ve got a passel of rug rats to attend to, and don’t those stanch Republican Family Values perfer stay-at-home Moms? Ah, I love the smell of hypocrisy in the campaign!
May 25th, 2009 at 7:57 pmFlag that moron OS = olby sucks = royal king = habib = etc.
Oh, Bovine. Are you going to do your Sean KKKlannity impersonation and wuss away from waterboarding?
According to you turds, that includes Liz Cheney, it is not torture. I remember you dumbass put it as a “nice long drink of water”
In fact, your comment is still at O.W.
May 25th, 2009 at 7:57 pmCindy Sheehan continues to speak truth to power on Memorial Day (and every day!):
http://www.truthout.org/052509A?n
May 25th, 2009 at 7:58 pmI didn’t know trashy white warmongers took care of their children. Huh. News to me.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:00 pmProud Says:
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Another strong woman for you so called “progresives” to smear
Oh, you mean like Nancy Pelosi and Hilary Clinton? And, uh, “progresive” is spelled progressive….guess you can’t spell it because you aren’t.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:04 pmGlogrrl, Proud already got an F- from me for his spelling skills earlier. Like most American Taliban members, spelling isn’t important….but spreading hate, lies, and going after one sect of society is. See?
May 25th, 2009 at 8:06 pm“She also lies routinely, accuses the president of helping terrorists, and is so mindless in her attacks on the nation’s elected leadership, she’s something of a national embarrassment,”
That should be all that she needs to make it through the Republican vetting process. All she needs now is a designer wardrobe and she’s a shoe in for whatever office she wants.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:09 pmKayInMaine: My apologies……I misspelled “prefer” and “staunch” in my first post….I was just so wigged out by the whole Cheney Bunch Magical Mystery Tour, I lost sight of my priorities!!
May 25th, 2009 at 8:09 pmSomewhat OT but, relevant because of the Cheney’s connections to the Bush’s. This is from Oct. 9, 2001.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:13 pmhttp://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/carlyle.html
That’s simple.
There’s two types of people in this world.
Those who want to live their lives and let others live theirs, and those who want to f#$k with everyone else.
Conservatives invariably fall into the latter category.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:25 pmThose who want to live their lives and let others live theirs, and those who want to f#$k with everyone else.
Conservatives invariably fall into the latter category.
And then they claim the opposite. That is but one part of the fear mongering program.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:30 pmImagine, my short sighted progresive friends, that you are a lawyer working in the Obama White House. Nice gig! Now imagine that your boss asks you for a legal opinion on something, maybe it’s the closing of Gitmo, or can we drop a few bombs on nuke sites in Iran, or can we cross the border into Pakistan.
Knowing that you might be in legal hot water when the next guy from the other side comes in, and you are a smart lawyer so you know the other side will at some point be the “in” party again, do you give your boss your best opinion or the one you know will keep you out of trouble? If you want to open that can of worms, go right ahead just remember that politics has a long memory. Check out http://www.jeffreyjena.wordpress.com and get another opinion.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pm>Can you show it’s not working?
Can you show me where in the US constition “its working” is allowed to be used as an excuse to disregard the constitution?
If the government could listen to anyone at any time without a warrant, that would work in preventing crime, dont you agree? ERgo since it woudl work, acording to your logic, we should ignore the 4th amendment, right?
May 25th, 2009 at 8:37 pmTo Above the Clouds,
Rightwingers think torture works. In the same vein, they probably think their tortured “logic” will work on some of us.
Above the Clouds Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 8:38 pmI still can never figure out why any “conservative” would spend so much time and emotional energy at a liberal, progressive site trying to convince members that Gingrich, Cheney, and Limbaugh are rational, competent people deserving of our respect and attention. Clearly, by both their words and actions–today’s “GOP Leadership” in the face of Gingrich, Cheney, and Limbaugh are disgraced, discredited, and laughable losers.
jeffreytj, the answer is simple: give the best opinion.
Are you suggesting otherwise?
May 25th, 2009 at 8:46 pmOkay, who let the trolls get into the chocolate?
May 25th, 2009 at 8:47 pmYou get an A+ for being honest, Glogrrl! LOL ;-)
May 25th, 2009 at 8:59 pm“It’s a two-fer. She comes off a bit better than he does sometimes,” a conservative consultant said.
One of the most ludicrous things I have ever read in my life ; it’s akin to claiming someone is just a bit less revolting than a mound of shit …………..
May 25th, 2009 at 9:22 pmJeffreytJ Says: blah,blah,blah… “do you give your boss your best opinion or the one you know will keep you out of trouble?”
If you are an ethical lawyer (yeah – I know it is an oxymoron) then the best opinion IS the one that keeps you out of trouble down the road. However – if you work for Dick Cheney – you give him the opinion he seeks.
May 25th, 2009 at 9:25 pmJeffreytJ Says:
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Imagine, my short sighted progresive friends, that you are a lawyer working in the Obama White House. Nice gig! Now imagine that your boss asks you for a legal opinion on something, maybe it’s the closing of Gitmo, or can we drop a few bombs on nuke sites in Iran, or can we cross the border into Pakistan.
Knowing that you might be in legal hot water when the next guy from the other side comes in, and you are a smart lawyer so you know the other side will at some point be the “in” party again, do you give your boss your best opinion or the one you know will keep you out of trouble? If you want to open that can of worms, go right ahead just remember that politics has a long memory. Check out http://www.jeffreyjena.wordpress.com and get another opinion.
May 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
A legal opinion is offered to interpret existing laws and precedent , which IS NOT what Yoo and Bybee did.
They offered re-writes to try to get around the intended letter of the law , to fit administration goals and policy , and nothing else ………..
May 25th, 2009 at 9:28 pmJeffreytJ Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
You give a legal opinion that is not political and within the law. If your boss doesn’t like it, that’s his problem, isn’t it?
It’s really not that difficult.
May 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pmAddington viewed Cheney as his client, even though the taxpayer was the one paying the lawyer advisers salary. Addington also knew that what Cheney wanted could cause him problems down the road, but he still did what his ‘client’ wanted, he was a yes man.
The question is should ‘yes’ men be advisers?
May 25th, 2009 at 9:38 pmAn furthermore Addington took some legislation that congress had passed and agreed upon and Addington altered it. It was McCains legislation. Addington then gave it to Harriet Myers who passed it to Dubya who signed it into law. A complete abrogation of the checks and balances of our democratic process of creating law.
Its why McCain flipped on his own legislation. I dont blame him in this case.
May 25th, 2009 at 9:42 pmI can see the bumper sticker now
“Vote For Liz (the Daughter Who Isn’t Gay)”
Like I said before this is very likely more Cheney style misdirection.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:00 pmThe only campaign she’s working on is the one to keep the coward, Daddy Deferment out of prison.
Maybe Dick wants to run for president in 2012…but people wont forget about his meteoric crashing unless he goes away for a few years..
May 25th, 2009 at 10:04 pmThe way Cheney sounds these days I don’t think he’ll last a few more years. Then again, he may outlive us all. Only the good die young!
May 25th, 2009 at 10:12 pmI’m watching “W” and I had to pause it because I started feeling a sense of doom when I thought about Liz Cheney or Jeb Bush running for the Presidency. No more Bushes and No more Cheneys!
Sounds like more of the federalists king with adviser stuff…
May 25th, 2009 at 10:16 pmI was just over at freeperville, they are talking of a Liz/Sarah ticket in 2012.
Those people really, really want to be powerless sheople with a tyrant ruling over them.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:20 pmI figured as much
May 25th, 2009 at 10:27 pmAnd there OS goes with the same lack of wit and humor we’ve become so accustomed to.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:36 pmI have to admit with PROUD the show livens up. Throw a turd in the pond and watch all the indignation. Can’t figure him out but I don’t think he is a village idiot from dittoland. Maybe he is just desperate and needs some attention. The Republican Party is in great hands with people like PROUD. Keep up the great work PROUD, I am proud of you.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:36 pmActually OS the federalists:
The [federalist] society has argued for the abolition of the Securities and Exchange Commission, severely limiting the Environmental Protection Agency, and rolling back gender equity laws (Title IX)
May 25th, 2009 at 10:38 pmWell, I didnt spend any time over there OS, just read a few posts, but didnt post anything. It came up on a google search for ‘federalists Phillip Perry’
I just wanted to see if he was, and he is, a federalist.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:40 pmhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2257348/posts?page=1
And no, OS, I am not lying.
Thanks for playing, again…
May 25th, 2009 at 10:42 pmSo Liz is for rolling back gender equality laws?
May 25th, 2009 at 10:45 pmWhat office could this woman possible run for? The Cheney name and her lack of experience won’t get her even a state office. She could possibly get a town council sort of job. but may well wind up disillusioned when she realizes she cannot order the torture of zoning ordinance violators.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:45 pmAt least we agree they are a funny, not ha ha funny, lot over there
May 25th, 2009 at 10:46 pmLets not forget they picked Sarah Palin to run for VP =)
May 25th, 2009 at 10:48 pmGot a link OS?
Something doesnt sound right.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:51 pm#
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OS Says:
Obama’s liberal philosophy dictates that when the news is bad, shoot the messenger. The newest data from Arbitron, the company charged with measuring the size of radio audiences, suggests that listenership to hip hop, inner city, and minority radio has been overstated in the past and that the popularity of conservative talk radio has been under-reported.
This conclusion – ideologically inconvenient for Obama – comes from the company’s decision to dispense with the Stone Age way it has been measuring radio audiences – by hand written diaries based on listener memory – with modern machines which automatically record what the person is listening to and for how long.
The opening barrage in Obama’s efforts to reign in talk radio was fired by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) this week when its acting Chairman Michael J. Copps announced an investigation of Arbitron’s radio measuring technology called the Portable People Meter. (Not to be confused with the Purple People Eater celebrated in song in the 1950s).
May 25th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Just out of curiosity, could you please post the link from which you found this information? I would like to read it for myself, thank you.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:52 pmYeah Xisithrus, you’re right. Whatever was I thinking? It matters not if the GOP candidate has any qualifications. They just pick ‘em to pander to a demographic.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:53 pmWayne Ant Schneider Says:
So, even the people picked up off the battlefield were all making bombs?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
WAYNEBRO Says:
Most were picked up on the battlefield.
You think they were “making bombs” on the battlefield?
May 25th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Great Waynes think alike? In a way, it’s kinda creepy. ;)
May 25th, 2009 at 10:54 pmOkay, so what if I am wearing this device and walk into a store, or bar, or restaurant thats playing a station that I am not really listening, or chose to listen, too?
May 25th, 2009 at 10:55 pm“What office could this woman possible run for?”
Well, maybe Torturer General in a Republican Adm.
She’ got her Dad’s charm, huh? Like a “spitting cobra” but more intimidating.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:55 pmFor those of you wondering where this “OS” clown got this sorry piece of crap ’story’ , it’s from the “credible” Dick “Toe-sucker” Morris ………..
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2009/05/25/obamas-war-on-talk-radio/
May 25th, 2009 at 10:57 pmOr maybe someone pulls up in a car next to mine listening to some other station? Imagine if I was on a bus and picked up on all those other signals I didnt choose?
This PPM sounds flawed to me and I dont care if people listen to talk radio.
May 25th, 2009 at 10:58 pmFLAWED IDEA, they should make it where it plugs into the radio they are using not taking signals in the vicinity of the user.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:00 pmIndeed.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:02 pmOf course cause why would OS provide anything that has facts? They do tend to make him stupid :(
May 25th, 2009 at 11:02 pmThe PPM has flaws, much as the diary system did. OS is just reciting Rush’s talk from last week.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:03 pmMorris, what a hack. Its not about the war on talk radio, as they are spinning it, its about PMM being a flawed method as it picks up radio signals people are in the vicinity of.
Nice try OS, but I aint buying what Morris is selling.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:05 pmIts like they read something but cant catch those few little words that would tell them ‘Hey, this is BS taking radio signals I didnt choose’ Instead they resort to some pundit who will ignore those same little words and they will go peddle it as truth, cause you know someone that makes 17 million a year didnt there by lying.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:08 pmLabotames for republican should be the law, prison terms instead off office terms for all the cheney,rove,bush,rice lans and any in the previous administration should be mandatory….P. B. & J
May 25th, 2009 at 11:08 pm*didnt get there by lying
May 25th, 2009 at 11:08 pmNow think about this OS, lets say you got one of these PPM devices, and suddenly, you were driving thru a poor area of town and, damn, your conservative pollings just got hosed.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:08 pmSorry, should of been clans not lans..Blessings
May 25th, 2009 at 11:12 pmI’m glad you stopped by tonight kdgamergirl. I wish to thank a female vet on this Memorial Day. Not to discount the guys, but for years women were relegated to non-combat positions. In this war, the front lines are fluid and combat is everywhere. Thank-you!
Remembering Carrie Lee French, killed 06/05/05 in Kirkuk
May 25th, 2009 at 11:12 pmlol, I noticed that. Not the first time its happened either I think.
Wayne must be slightly alarmed.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:13 pmHey, Witch1, blessings back atcha.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:13 pmThanks Jane, lot’s of Blessings to you and Wayne…
May 25th, 2009 at 11:18 pmNot the first time its happened either I think.
Probably not, but ya gotta admit it’s weird with one right after the other. As to Wayne being alarmed, well, odd coincidences seem to follow him around, so he’s more used to it.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:19 pmI’m glad you stopped by tonight kdgamergirl. I wish to thank a female vet on this Memorial Day. Not to discount the guys, but for years women were relegated to non-combat positions. In this war, the front lines are fluid and combat is everywhere. Thank-you!
Oh tyvm :)
May 25th, 2009 at 11:20 pmMe thinks the hedder is wrong, it should of read “Cheney is running from office”. ..Her resume or job application should be gun bearer or caged pigeon releaser ..P. B. & J
May 25th, 2009 at 11:29 pmOS Says:
Obama’s liberal philosophy dictates that when the news is bad, shoot the messenger. The newest data from Arbitron…
Citation, please? I have no idea what you’re babbling about. You mean to say that the FCC is stating a preference regarding one method of measuring radio listenership over another? Why, I’m shocked. Shocked and appalled, and highly interested in seeing the articel to which you refer. I’m especially interested in the part that describes in what manner Obama has taken a personal interest in the issue.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:30 pmWell, that certainly helps explain the 28%ers
May 25th, 2009 at 11:32 pmI think that 28% figure is way off, more like 18% since there are atleast 10% still hanging out in closet’s with no radios..LOL…Blessings
May 25th, 2009 at 11:41 pmHeh
May 25th, 2009 at 11:44 pmPROUD he almost got his GED?
May 25th, 2009 at 11:49 pmYou know, this reminds me people who pay for AAA credit ratings that helped lead to the financial mess.
May 25th, 2009 at 11:55 pmLord, the pundits make such cackling hens of their listeners.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:29 amIt’s worth pointing out that of all succeeding Vice Presidents in modern memory, only 2 have declined to run for the Presidential primary following their President’s term:
1) Dan Quayle, and
2) Dick Cheney
And Quayle doesn’t count, since he declined to run in the next campaign after his Prez lost, which is not at all the same thing as declining to run directly after the second term that your Prez won. You’d have to go back to the 1800’s to find somone who would do something that crazy (slash-disloyal-to-their-own-party).
That’s how unelectable the bastard is.
Unless you count his second-banana status on the Bush ticket, the fact is that Cheney has never been elected to anything ever in his life. Ferchrissake, he picked himself to be Bush’s Veep, meaning he didn’t even have to face a headhunting committee.
To the degree that anybody is related to him his unelectability taints them as well.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:36 amThere is so much wrong with this post.
First of all, you are painting with a broad stroke. Progressives come in many shades. Some feel no hatred, only disgust, anger, sadness, and much more, sometimes all at once. Moreover, those emotions are not the same. To conflate those expressions of emotion is quite laughable when coming from those who have a vested interest in painting their opposition as something to be feared and, ironically enough, hated. Project much?
Wishing everyone, including terrorists, to have equal rights under the law is in no way an expression of love for said terrorists, any more than wishing a murderer, a rapist, a corporate thief destroying thousands to millions of lives to varying degrees, or any other offender who has committed a heinous crime to likewise have equal protections and rights under the law to receive due process. Rather, that is a core principle of the founders of this country that all Men are created equal, and all have certain inalienable rights. Again, quite laughable coming from a group who purports to follow Yeshua, also known as Jesus Christ, who asks you to judge not, lest ye be judge, wishes only those without sin to cast the first stone, and wants you to love thy neighbor. How little you’ve learned from the teachings attributed to that name, and how much you use such teachings as convenient cover to express hatred, fear and loathing.
Progressives are in control? Really? Then why is it STILL so difficult to overcome the dug in interests who purposefully and maliciously stifle progressive policy, to the detriment of all in society save a tiny portion. What, exactly, is wrong with wishing to progress beyond the status quo? Not regress, not tangentially shift the paradigm to something different, but progress. In other words, to advance knowledge, understanding, policy and technology beyond that which oppresses.
No, your statement is categorically wrong. It serves, quite literally, no purpose other than to attempt to deflect the conversation away from the merits and towards large-scale argumentum ad homimen, to insert memes with no basis in reality as being truthful, and to stir hatred and divisiveness on all sides for pathetic political gain and personal power.
So, nice try. Okay, not really, it’s a pathetic effort. Argue ideas you oppose on their merits, present ideas of your own by highlighting their merits, and attempt to convince through logic and rational thought your ideals.
Your goals AND your means are transparent. They are also entirely unconvincing. In any debate, formal or no, you would long ago have conceded. It is in your best interests to try again. Only, try harder this time.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:59 amYou just never get tired of being wrong do you?
He didn’t rescind the charity offer genius.
He’s still donating the money, even more than he planned. 10,000 dollars to a charity for families of the fallen in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
He’s just donating it now on behalf of Eric Mancow INSTEAD of Sean Hannity, because Hannity’s too chicken to honor HIS word, and follow through with being waterboarded.
So you’re wrong again.
What a shocker.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:00 amProud Says:
Just answer the question. Are the Bush/Cheney policies that Bambi is continuing the right policies or is Bambi just too inept to come up with his own solutions?
This is a very interesting question, and one which we will be grappling with for a while. It seems to me the problem is this: On the one hand, since they’ve been detained without charges and tortured, it’s nearly impossible to prepare an actual legal case against any of the detainees – almost all evidence is either nonexistent or inadmissible. On the other hand, it’s inconceivable to just cut these people loose in the U.S, since God only knows how many of them are, were, or will become actual terrorists. Thus, due to the actions of the Bush administration, Obama is stuck in a hell of an impossible legal position regarding detainees.
I only hope that he manages to navigate his way through it in some way that ultimately upholds the rule of law in the United States, while also preventing any future terrorist attacks.
Obviously, you and your ilk hope otherwise. That is because you are all filthy traitors to the Constitution and to the American way.
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OS Says:
How do you know they were terrrists if they never got a trial?
Maybe the bombs they were making?
Citation please? All I know is that the people who are holding them for being terrorists say they are terrorists while refusing to supply any evidence. Could be your mom for all they’ve cited regarding any specific case evidence.
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hyacinthgirl Says:
Okay, I’m fairly new here, but I have a question about the likes of Proud and OS. Do these ‘people’ (I use the term loosely) come here before they are bitter and angry and want to try to rain on our parade, or are they just attention seekers who want any kind of attention even if it’s negative, or are they people who are bullied and miserable in their own lives and come here to take out their frustration on others.
I’m kind of on two minds regarding this. On the one hand, I think that people like them really would do better at redstate or freeper. On the other hand, I appreciate that they bring the right-wing perspective here for us to kick around, giving us the opportunity to clarify our positions against their concerns and “arguments.” Thus, they are both complete wastes of skin, while still remaining useful to the likes of us. It’s damn near a koan in its self-contradiction. Thus, I don’t really worry about it.
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OS Says:
olbermann rescinds chrity offer…
Shocker!
Here’s a good link for it. Conservative radio jock Erich “Mancow” Muller decided to undergo waterboarding to prove that it wasn’t torture. After the procedure, he had to admit that it definitely was torture – that he would have said anything they wanted. Olbermann is giving $10K to the charity of the guy who did the waterboarding, and is rescinding his offer to Hannity, since Mancow has made Hannity’s blather irrelevant. Mind you, Hannity had plenty of time to take up the offer himself, and cowardly refused day after day.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:06 amUhh, rather than tap dancing to another topic tinker bell, how about you address the lie you just posted about Olbermann?
How about being a man for once in your wormlike existence, and admitting to being wrong there?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:06 amI dont hate OS, or Proud, they be funny.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:07 amThat is extraordinarily easy. Myself. I do not hate the Cheneys, or the Bushes, or conservatives in general. Disagreement, anger, a desire to see wrongdoings punished under the law, and so on, are not expressions of hatred. If I hated them, I would wish them harm, or worse, death. Yet, I do not. Instead, I wish them nothing more than a fair sentence spent in prison equitable to any crimes committed in all of our names, and against humanity as a whole. If the Rule of Law deems that to be a life sentence, so be it. That is not hatred, no matter how much you wish it to be.
Note also that you, too, attempt nothing more than a deflection from the meat of a post in favor of highlighting and attempting to raise up a single quote-mined point. You ignore the merits of the bulk of the argument in favor of a quaint sound byte to exploit for gain for “your side”, personal gain or no. It’s really quite transparent, and simply does not work on those who know what to look for, and do not allow emotion to cloud judgment. You can certainly do better than that if you put even a modicum of effort forth.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:11 amSeriously is this what you do for a living? Or is it just some sort of psychosis, some sort of “Tourettes” like disorder?
You accuse Olbermann of rescinding his “Charity offer” which he did not, merely changed the persons name he was giving on behalf of, and then you flutter onto the next one liner, never bothering to clean up the sh$tstain you left with the last one.
Do you really believe in God? Do you really think that “bearing false witness” is going to get you into his good graces?
How about you act lie a man for a change instead of a worm, and just apologize for your lie about Olbermann?
I’ll be waiting.
And just like Olbermann, the wait for a conservative to show a modicum of honor…will no doubt be a long one.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:12 amModeration Says:
There is so much wrong with this post.
Unfortunately, this crap is par for the course. It’s a confluence of two standard wingnut tactics:
1) “All liberals are pro-terrorist.” This is so blatantly obviously wrong that I need marshal no facts to support the contrary. It is sufficient to point out that there are no facts whatsoever supporting it.
2) “You progressives are angry at the right wing, that means you are full of hatred instead of love.” First of all, we’re not hippies; “love” is besides the point. Secondly, we are justifiably angry at the people who have systematically tried to destroy everything that our country stands for, and continue to. Frankly, it is the right wing that stands for hatred – of Arabs, of Muslims, of all people of color, of homosexuals, of women, and of anyone who cares about their fellow human. Their policies are across the board pro-murder, pro-war, pro-rape, pro-torture, pro-evil in all of its myriad forms. To the (frankly retarded demand) “don’t hate the hater” I can only reply, “who else could I conceivably hate?”
May 26th, 2009 at 1:13 amInterminable even.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:14 amOS Says:
olbermann and honor don’t belong in the same sentence. He has not a shred of honor.
Sure he does. He paid your mom two hundred bucks, which is like three times the going rate.
But I’ll bite – do you have any facts or citations whatsoever to support your claim? Anything
May 26th, 2009 at 1:24 amThats your opinion, but its not a truism.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:27 amThat would be lobbyists and floaters [think tanks]
May 26th, 2009 at 1:28 amOS Says:
olbermann is so desperate to find people to parrot his views he has to pay them. LOL!
Olbermann didn’t even know about Mancow’s waterboarding until after the fact, when Mancow’s producer contacted him regarding his offer to give the money to anybody who would do it, not just Hannity. Then he paid up according to his word. LOL!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:29 amOS funny you should bring up honor when you clearly know nothing of it. You can’t even completely explain something truthfully.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:39 amOS Says:
No honor, whatsoever.
I read your link. What’s “dishonorable” about characterizing the situation in Iraq in 2006 as a civil war? Presumtive, certainly. And he’s often over-the-top. But “honor” is not the same thing as “agrees with OS.”
May 26th, 2009 at 1:39 amOS Says:
1 in 7 released Gitmo prisoners join up with jihad again. Another Olbermann embarrassment.
Here’s the original NYT story. Here’s where the reporter of the original story walked it back and admitted that maybe the “unreleased report” didn’t say what she said it said.
Olbermann has nothing to do with that story, BTW.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:49 amDon’t they mean “chip off the old blockhead”?
More cowbell!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:49 amOS Says:
Want more?
You’re zero for three so far, so I’ll leave it up to you.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:50 amthe danger in america is not liz cheney.
the danger lies in the hoards of americans that will line up to vote for her.
liked they lined up to vote for reagan.
dutch reagan whom i knew hated the middle class and was a dear friend of the have mores.
now we pay the price for reagan economics and whine and play the blame game.
change the system change the outcome.
simple as that but oh the paradigm effect if powerful.
a paradigm shift is a rare occurance.
very rare.
the end result of reagan economics: bye bye middle class.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:06 amSo waddya recommend, researcher? That we use the force?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:26 amThe Cheneys must be all sent to the Gitmo. Their lives have been a curse to mankind.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:27 amYou’re the one who just bore false witness against him which violates the 9th Commandment.
Therefore you have no business saying anything about honor, to anyone.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:31 am
WAYNEBRO Says:
You’re the one who just bore false witness against him which violates the 9th Commandment.
I don’t know how relevant any commandments are, but I do know that wingnuts follow the commandment fromt he book of Rove, “attack them at their strength.” So if they’re claiming that Olbermann “has no honor,” they must actually see him as a pretty honorable guy.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:55 amWell they’re quite relevant to both Jewish and Christian persons, as well as providing basis for core principles in our legal system.
Breaking the 9th commandment is illegal in US courts of law.
If you bear false witness against someone in court, you can find yourself in serious civil and or criminal trouble.
And since most conservatives “claim” to be Christian, I find it quite relevant, irregardless of the legal, moral and ethical connotations.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:20 amThat is about what I thought the response would be, sad to say. Completely ignoring the posters rebutting you without resorting in kind, you instead choose to throw out more quaint substance-less soundbites to try and hook a response. Transparent in the extreme.
May 26th, 2009 at 7:10 amAsk yourself how many more vets will die under obamas watch, ok?
huh? Since when are active duty soldiers called vets? Hopefully NO “Vets” will die under President Obama.
May 26th, 2009 at 7:35 amLiz Cheney running for public office? She should run for cover. In support of the tradition of her old man, she is already torturing the American public with the very idea of becoming a poltico. Ye gods!
May 26th, 2009 at 8:22 amFather to Daughter… “Liz you are not pure evil as the people say. You are only 50% pure evil and 50% your mother..”
May 26th, 2009 at 8:51 amIf you noticed, OS and Proud are derailing/hijacking this thread.
They don’t want this topic discussed. They want to give this idea a chance to get some traction. A Palin/Cheney ticket in 12 is their best shot. Think about it. Who else do they have?
Canford? Boner? Newtie?
The Governor of Floriduh is their best option. And their turning on him for being too much of a centrist.
Nope, this is all they have. That’s why these two keep taking this thread off topic. They have too. Their scared to see what will happen if this actually comes to fruition. They need time to build this up. If we see this coming from miles away. We have time to prepare for this. And prepare we will.
So go right ahead you two. Keep up the stupidity. You’re not fooling anyone.
But I’d like to suggest that everyone just ignore these two asshats. They don’t deserve a response.
OS Says:
olbermann is so desperate to find people to parrot his views he has to pay them. LOL!
This what I’m talking about. This asshat actually thinks that those who go on FUX NOOZ actually do it for free.
May 26th, 2009 at 8:52 amNow, I ask you. Is this clown worth responding too?
Father to Daughter… this time tapping the glass… “Why don’t these prison phones work?!”
May 26th, 2009 at 8:54 amI guess the GOP litmus test is out of litmus
May 26th, 2009 at 10:03 amOS Says:
Are you ever going to post something that is both relevant and factual at the same time? Or is that like walking and chewing gum to you?
May 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pmI hereby vow, whenever I see the words “Liz Cheney”, that I’ll pass along my mother/daughter Cheney YouTube, where they are asked what the proper pronunciation of “Cheney”, and have different, detailed stories about why it’s pronounced that way. That’s still “Weirdest Thing Of The Year” for me…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TkKUHjvLsA
May 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pmWho cares?
May 27th, 2009 at 5:17 pm