Limbaugh on Sotomayor: ‘Do I want her to fail? Yeah.’
By on May 26th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Limbaugh on Sotomayor: ‘Do I want her to fail? Yeah.’
Reacting to Obama’s nomination of Judge Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court today, conservative talker Rush Limbaugh called Sotomayor a “horrible pick,” said that Republicans should “go to the mat” in their efforts to oppose her confirmation in the Senate, and — echoing his hopes for Obama’s failure — declared that he wanted Sotomayor to “fail”:
LIMBAUGH: Do I want her to fail? Yeah. Do I want her to fail to get on the court? Yes! She’d be a disaster on the court. Do I still want Obama to fail as President? Yeah. AP you getting this? He’s going to fail anyway, but the sooner the better.
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Ladies and gentlemen… the leader of the Republican Party.
I’m soooo glad the Right Wing got exactly what it deserved…
May 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pmYou know, we don’t have to wish Limbaugh fails, he’s done that on his own. He is a failure as a human being.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pmKeep marginalizing yourself, Limpy. You’re doing it right.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pmWow.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:02 pmWhat a shock.
So sez Limpy the Coward from his bunker. Notice how this guy NEVER goes on any program where he would have to interact and debate someone with an oppossing view? Rachel Maddow would have him crying like a little girl…without the waterboarding…with facts.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pmDoes Rush Limbaugh hope for everything that doesn’t have intelligunt desine to thank for its existence to fail? Yeah.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pmLIMBAUGH: Do I need new writers? Yeah. Am I successfully marginalizing myself and the Republican party? Yes! We’re a disaster… I mean, we’d have been marginalized anyway, but the sooner the better!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pmPlease, don’t anyone tell Rush what a moron he is. The best thing to happen to Dems/Progressives is Rush.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pmAnd the marginalizing of the GNOP continues.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pmSomeone page b-cup, STAT! He’s got to explain to us exactly what Rush meant when he said, “Do I still want Obama to fail as President? Yeah.”
Apparently, Rush speaks in a complex code that we non-wingnuts can’t decipher.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pmI think this is called self-inflicted stupidty. Seem to be rampant in the GNOP these days. Michael Steel’s reaction to Judge Sotomayor’s nomination is classic.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:06 pmWhat are the requirements for the Rethugs to approve of a SCOTUS appointee? From what I’ve been reading, even Jesus Christ would not qualify…he’s too liberal, he was dark-skinned, believed in forgiveness, did not believe in torture, believed all men should be treated equally….. Hey, Rush, would you want JC to fail?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pmLimbaugh- a failure as a human being.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pmWhere has backup been? I’ve haven’t seen him around in awhile. Unless he has a new screen name?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pmrush disapproves?
ah, the golden seal of approval.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:08 pmAnd I want Rush’s kidneys to fail…
on a beach, in the Dominican, with his pool boys too frightened to call for help…
May 26th, 2009 at 1:08 pmJesus, can’t this guy ever shut up? He is totally repulsive. He’s attacking her because she is female and Hispanic, at least that is what I think. These guys try to hide their hatred for women and minorities by claiming these picks aren’t Conservative enough. As the speaker for the Repug Party, he is making a big mistake. Does Rush think attacking a Hispanic woman is going to win votes? Morons.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:09 pmSo sayeth, Rusty Limpballs, the intellectual heavyweight who flunked out of Southeast Missouri State University after two semesters.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:09 pmNow that Cheney has publically professed his love for Rush, he’ll only get louder…..just as Cheney won’t go away, neither will Rush
May 26th, 2009 at 1:09 pmBOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!
That was the sound of any hopes at the GOP getting any significant Hispanic support. Good job, the whitening continues.
RIP
May 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Wonder if Ben Nelson and Evan Bayh will go on Rush’s show to denounce Sotomayor in the name of “bipartisanship”.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pmI love how hypocritical the left is. Did they want Bush to fail…yes of course. Did they want Justice Roberts to fail…yes of course. Should we open up all the threads about Allito, Roberts and Meirs to show this?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pmIf anyone wonders why the Republicans are losing popularity, you don’t have to look much further than this quote. The leader of the Republican party is an anti-American bigot.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pmJohnM says:
May 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pmGo find those threads. Lets see you prove your accusation.
NOT
Of course Rush wants others to fail. Misery loves company.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pmHow many marriages has Rush had? Did he graduate from college? Has he been fired from a job? Rush has failed in many ways and his only real “success” has been his “Insulting In Broadcasting” career.
Honi soit qui mal y pense, big guy.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pmJohnM Says:
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I love how hypocritical the left is. Did they want Bush to fail…yes of course. Did they want Justice Roberts to fail…yes of course. Should we open up all the threads about Allito, Roberts and Meirs to show this?
Did Bush fail: Yes
Did Roberts and Alito make it thru: Yes
Was Miers a bad pick: Yes
Your point is………..
RIP
May 26th, 2009 at 1:13 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Wow. that didn’t take long.
This is treasonous talk. where r the righties that accused lefties of treason for merely questioning W’s ways?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pmLet me paraphrase Roy Scheider from Jaws with regard to the Limbaugh video:
I think we’re going to need a wider screen.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pmYet another gem of wisdom from the de-facto leader of the Republican Party!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pm@JohnM,
Go for it John Boy, show us all the posts from progressives who post here regularaly saying that they were hoping the President would fail. Especially right after 9/11. Those would be really good to support your point, don’t you think?
I’ll wait…
May 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pm.
R E M E M B E R:
(R)ush hopes America fails.
.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pmJohnM, you are simply wrong. I never wanted Bush to fail and neither did the “left”. I hoped that Bush’s war plans were inspired and Iraq would become the shining democracy he promised. I hoped that Bush would seize the opportunity to show leadership and to react to Hurricane Katrina efficiently and humanely. I hoped that Bush would live up to his campaign rhetoric and protect the environment and practice humble foreign policy. I hoped that Bush was a true fiscal conservative who would use the budget surplus he inherited to pay down the debt. I hoped that those who voted in Bush because they believed he would protect this country were right. But, all these hopes were dashed. Iraq became a quagmire, New Orleans is a disaster, environmental regulations were systematically dismantled, national debts skyrocketed, and America suffered its most serious attack on U.S. soil since the 1800s. We all hoped that Bush would succeed. Don’t blame the left because he was such a huge failure.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pmmodification
it’s not treasonous, it is un-patriotic to wish a president fails.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:17 pmPresident Obama brilliantly presented Sotomayor in such a way that when the obstructionist party of NO begins their rhetoric they will only expose their ugly hateful childish side and turn off a hugh voting block – the Hispanics.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm.
Dear JohnM,
I never wanted Bush to fail.
I wished he’d STOP FAILING America.
.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pmJohnM Says:
I love how hypocritical the left is. Did they want Bush to fail…yes of course. Did they want Justice Roberts to fail…yes of course. Should we open up all the threads about Allito, Roberts and Meirs to show this?
We’re still waiting you to provide evidence of your slander, you right-wing, scum-sucking,tea-bagging fruit-fly.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pmYou guys can wait for JohnM to provide proof of some sort. Not me. I’m mortal.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pmJohnM:
“Did they want Bush to fail…yes of course.”
Actually we didn’t. We were tired of continually providing evidence that he WAS a failure…to the detriment to America.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:19 pmhugh = huge
May 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pmJohnM has it wrong (as usual)
we didn’t want Bush to fail
we all wanted very badly that he would STOP failing
May 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pmDon’t let John M off the hook this time folks. Chase him off every thread he posts on until he either provides links to back up his assertions about us wanting bush, roberts, alito and meirs to fail. He’s a liar and there is no reason to take anything he says seriously.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pmSorry, Johnny, we don’t read from your script. I don’t want any president to fail. Actions have consequences, I suggest you and your ilk recognize and live out the public’s outrage of the last eight years. You had a congress that showed the previous administration deference on issues ranging to tax cuts, approving major military operations & confirming judges. You squandered that good will. Learn to govern or get out.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pmLimpballs can only imagine a Hispanic woman being his maid and personal drug-runner.
Would you still want her to fail, Rush, if she were picking up your Oxy?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pmJohnM
I love how STUPID you are. Did I want Bush to FAIL? No. He was president it would be bad for the US. I did want him to NOT push us too far to the right but thats not the same thing. Did I want Roberts and Alito to fail? NO, they are SC judges it would be bad for America. Did I wish they were more moderate judges? Sure. You really are a moron John. Are you trying to make stupid an artform?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pmaww, watchpuppy, don’t fear the strong woman
May 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pmwatchdog Says:
This is a person that openly admitted that policy is created directly from the bench. Liberals should hope she fails also.
Says the dog who thinks that bushvgore was good legal reasoning, so good that they specifically stated it was not precident worthy for any other case. Talk about judical activism…
May 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pmWell, at least the trolls know what to think now that the radio has told them.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pmLimbaugh isn’t the only one.
Joe Scraborough has already started the propaganda by spewing partisan rhetoric in this clip. I’m sure there will be many more.
http://progressnotcongress.org/blog/?p=1352
May 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pmOS is still stuck in binary mode
he didn’t have the brainpower to resist the “with us or against us” BS
May 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pmwatchdog, OS is laughing at you.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pmOS, YOU cheered for invading Iraq, therefore YOU cheered for failure
May 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pmwatchdog is afraid of gay marriage because it would make gay sex clean, and where’s the fun in that?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pmOS Says: All the while you and your cohorts were cheering for failure in Iraq…..
Liar.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pmfreep away:
http://www.newsvine.com/_question/2009/05/26/2864569-is-sotomayor-a-wise-choice-for-the-supreme-court
May 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pmObviously STUPID
You are a liar and a fool and an ignorant piece of garbage. Just STFU you punkass troll
May 26th, 2009 at 1:28 pmlink to the declaration of war, please
May 26th, 2009 at 1:28 pmOS Says: “The war can’t be won!” obama
Distortion is still lying, liar.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pmwatchdog Says:
What a moron you are. When some decisions are made on the constitutionality of a law for instance policy is made. She stated the obvious. Get over it. In the fullness of time moronic troglydites like you will lose the gay marriage debate. There were some losses when the left fought Jim Crow too. In the end the sane position prevailed. Your reactionary stupidity will eventually lose out. Stick with your stupid though it is your strong suit
May 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pmfletc3her, good post. I honestly held out hope for Bush to recover as president until even after Katrina, when he claimed to take full responsibility for the administration’s failures. This was out of respect for the office of the presidency. But when Katrina was left abandoned and pillaged by the ideologues, I officially lost all hope. I was furious about the carnage being done in Iraq, but I still expected this American president to do the right thing. Was that too much for us to expect out of a president? To the right, yes — they consider competence ‘messianic’. Bush is a failure and sucked this country dry like the worst archtypical CEO. There is no getting around that.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:31 pmWhat a moron! Let’s see—Private Catholic School, Summa Cum laude, Law Review…Oh Wait, that was Chief Justice Roberts (who can’t even swear in POTUS correctly)–SHE went to Private Catholic School, graduated Summa Cum Laude from PRINCETON and was editor of the YALE Law Review. This is why we minorities tell our children–YOU HAVE TO BE BETTER than everyone else to get an equal shot! Right wingers are saying she doesn’t have intellectual chops???? UGGHH WHEN IS IT ENOUGH! WHAT SHOULD SHE HAVE DONE BETTER?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:31 pmOS Says:
Im a moron: Obviously Stupid
May 26th, 2009 at 1:32 pmAnd I want this fat pos to fail, and ALL republicans.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pmOS Says:
“The war can’t be won!” obama
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you forgot the link.
:)
good luck.
:)
May 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pmJohnM Says:
Should we open up all the threads about Allito, Roberts and Meirs to show this?
uh…. Meirs was attacked by Bush’s own supporters as not being qualified enough:
Harriet Miers withdrew her nomination to be a U.S. Supreme Court justice Thursday in the face of strong criticism from President Bush’s most conservative supporters, who say she doesn’t have the qualifications or experience necessary to serve on the nation’s highest court.
Miers Withdraws Nomination
I know you reichwingers have a very short attention span, but this one is really silly…
May 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pmObviously Stupid isnt going to support anything he says. He KNOWS he is a liar, he KNOWS he is a moron and all he wasts to do is annoy us because he KNOWS he is too stupid to contribute in any way. His every post should be flagged. He is a pathetic and ignorant troll
May 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pmOS Says:
“The war can’t be won!” obama
Define winning idiot.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pmRush Limbaugh: The Fail Fingerpointer.
(needless to point out … each time he casts a fail, he has 3 more fingers pointing back at him)
May 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pmOxycontin advice — pointless.
Hey Limbaugh, remember your BFF George Bush Sr nominated her to replace his namesake. Walker.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pmOS Says:
All the while you and your cohorts were cheering for failure in Iraq…..
I second Dr. Matt. Please link to post(s) where any progressive hoped for any military operation to fail. Your party doesn’t know the first thing about running a military operation, and no, “stay the course” doesn’t count.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pmHow pathetic will the GOP become before they disappear?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pmOS Says: Obomba voted against a resolution that would have pulled the troops out of Iraq by July 2007
So? Citing irrelevant facts is still lying, liar.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pmEugeneDebs Says:
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JohnM
I love how STUPID you are. Did I want Bush to FAIL? No. He was president it would be bad for the US. I did want him to NOT push us too far to the right but thats not the same thing. Did I want Roberts and Alito to fail? NO, they are SC judges it would be bad for America. Did I wish they were more moderate judges? Sure. You really are a moron John. Are you trying to make stupid an artform?
But I am sure you wanted his policies to fail, torture? Tax breaks for the rich? Social security reform? That is all Limbaugh has said, he wants the policies that Obama is presenting to fail because he believe they will have a long term negative effect on the country. Just like I am sure you thought the Bush policies would.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pmObstinate & Spurious bloviated: All the while you and your cohorts were cheering for failure in Iraq…..
No, it was said Iraq would be a quagmire proof of that: We are still there.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:40 pmOS just has no clue at all what he is talking about
He’s just another bedwetting ignorant coward, which is why he’s a right winger.
Cheney has terrorized this little one into buying the right wing BS
May 26th, 2009 at 1:40 pmAugustus Gloop running his crap dispenser again.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:41 pmJohnM, the Limbaugh apologist, shows up to tell us what Rush REALLY meant, hoping we’ll all ignore what he REALLY said.
He thinks we’re as stupid as right wingers
May 26th, 2009 at 1:41 pmOS Says:
Obomba voted against a resolution that would have pulled the troops out of Iraq by July 2007
OS Says:
ROFL! ;)
OS Says:
Megaloptera McWars Says
All the while you and your cohorts were cheering for failure in Iraq…..
OS Says:
“The war can’t be won!” obama
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get a grip.
:)
May 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pmBuckarooBanzai Says:
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JohnM:
“Did they want Bush to fail…yes of course.”
Actually we didn’t. We were tired of continually providing evidence that he WAS a failure…to the detriment to America.
I think all the evidence needed on this is to show how unwilling you all were to admit that the surge worked. This site, Obama and other left wingers desperately wanted the surge to fail and when it did not fail it could not be admitted. Just because Limbaugh is honest and states it outright does not mean that everybody here did not feel the same about Bush policies. You all wanted his policies to fail because they were not in line with what you thought was best for the country. If those policies fail, then your policies will be tried.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:43 pmOS can’t even last one thread without contradicting himself.
What an ignorant little coward he is
May 26th, 2009 at 1:43 pmJohnM Says:
But I am sure you wanted his policies to fail, torture? Tax breaks for the rich? Social security reform? … Just like I am sure you thought the Bush policies would.
“Wanted” and predicted they “would” fail are not equivalent.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pmObama should take Rush off armed services radio for trying to undermine the commander in chief
May 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pmLook at JohnM trying to claim the “surge” and not the “bribes” lessened some of the violence in Iraq.
He completely ignores the FACT that the failure occured when we invaded Iraq in the first place.
Just another partisan coward.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pmRantingTommy Says:
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JohnM, the Limbaugh apologist, shows up to tell us what Rush REALLY meant, hoping we’ll all ignore what he REALLY said.
He thinks we’re as stupid as right wingers
He has explained it many times. Maybe if you listened to what he said in it’s entirety instead of reading quotes are hearing part of a segment here you would know that.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pmJohnM
But I am sure you wanted his policies to fail, torture? Tax breaks for the rich? Social security reform? That is all Limbaugh has said, he wants the policies that Obama is presenting to fail because he believe they will have a long term negative effect on the country. Just like I am sure you thought the Bush policies would.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are SURE?? How does that work exactly? You cannot read minds stop trying. The idiocy of the rightwing mind reading trick needs to be retired. Once they were in place I hoped the tax cuts would bring prosperity. I didnt THINK they would but hoped so. As for Limbaugh stop lying. That is NOT all he meant. Why does he need YOU to come in and tell us what he SAID isnt what he actually meant? He said he wanted Obama to fail, when rightwing psychophants like YOU tried to backpeddle for him he said again that he wanted him to FAIL. You are brainwashed. Try a little bit of reality. As for the policy of torture it is evil. There isnt any pass fail grade on evil. I dont want it done PERIOD.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pmJohn, give it up, his EXACT WORDS WERE “I Hope Obama Fails”
not “I hope his policies fail”
not “I hope he fails to implement his policies”
Nice try, you chickenhawk little pansy
May 26th, 2009 at 1:45 pmMegaloptera McWars Says:
Your party (R-stupid) doesn’t know the first thing about running a military operation, and no, “stay the course” doesn’t count.
I hope that Rush Limbaugh “stays the course”.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:45 pmJohnM says: That is all Limbaugh has said, he wants the policies that Obama is presenting to fail…
If you’d get your head out of the Rushpublican talking points and pay attention to the TP post on which you’re now commenting, you’ll see that your Dear Leader Limpstick hasn’t said he wants Obama’s policies to fail — he has, indeed, said that he wants the President (and thus, by extension, the country) to fail:
“Do I still want Obama to fail as President? Yeah.”
Try to keep up, dipshit.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:46 pmYeah, HYPOCRITE, how’s that stash holding up?
“When you strip it all away, Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he’s being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks.”
May 26th, 2009 at 1:46 pm~~~Rush Limbaugh (8/20/95)
What a surprise: Rush is against a woman, a Latina, a slightly progressive jurist, with an amazing personal story (she pulled herself up by her bootstraps: you know how Republicans hate that; they prefer their favorite Yale Law School grad, you know, the one born with a silver spoon up his nose, the one who’s grandfather supported the German Nazis and Hitler, but I digress…). Watch the Republicans do their death spiral into the dust bin of history…
May 26th, 2009 at 1:47 pmLimbaugh uses idiots like JohnM and OS because they are valuable to advertisers.
Advertisers LOVE people who are intellectually weak and are gullible enough to believe what the radio tells them.
Once someone shows they are silly enough to believe in a magic man in the sky and trickle down economics, selling them wave radios is pretty easy.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:48 pmJohnM Says:
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But I am sure you wanted his policies to fail, torture? Tax breaks for the rich? Social security reform? That is all Limbaugh has said, he wants the policies that Obama is presenting to fail because he believe they will have a long term negative effect on the country. Just like I am sure you thought the Bush policies would.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
There’s a tiny difference ; Reaganomics has proven itself to be one of the worst policies in US history.
Conservative judges made an unconscionable and illogical decision in their 2000 presidential election decision , and expressly stated that it should set no precedent ; that is unheard of and has NEVER been invoked before.
In 8 years , Bush proved all those who opposed him from the very beginning , to be spot-on : that he had absolutely no business holding any office , let alone the highest elected office in the land , with zero success in any area.
Furthermore , progressive policies that have been enacted , like Social Security , have provided benefits to millions of Americans ; and to allow an abstract failure like Bush to mess with it makes as much sense as that 2000 SCOTUS ruling………..
May 26th, 2009 at 1:48 pmLoser Limbaugh is a poster child for Social Dominator / Right-Wing Authoritarian / Double Highs. He’s immoral, ruthless, ignorant, racist, vengeful, hypocritical and a pathological liar on his best day.
And, the leader of the Republican Party. How sweet!
GOP = Goofs on Parade
May 26th, 2009 at 1:48 pmhttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/09/flashback-poll-showed-democrats-wanted-bush-fail/
An August 2006 poll conducted by FOX News/Opinion Dynamics showed 51 percent of Democrats did not want Bush to succeed. Thirty-four percent of independents also did not want Bush to succeed.
Wow! 51% wanted him to fail, and guess nobody here could have been part of that majority. They all must have been democrats that did not frequent sites like this.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:49 pmJohnM says:
But I am sure you wanted his policies to fail, torture?
So you admit that it was Bush’s policy to torture? Wow.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:49 pmJohnM Says: He has explained it many times. Maybe if you listened to what he said in it’s entirety instead of reading quotes are hearing part of a segment here you would know that.
When Rush stops distorting Obama and the rest of us (i.e. unpatriotic, feminazis, terrorist-sympathizers) and when you and your ilk stop distorting what we say and write, then perhaps we can have a reasonable debate on policy. Until then, WE are the majority and WE should put forth policies WE want without regard to wishes that you, Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly, Bohner, Bachman, et al have.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:49 pmRush wants Obama to create less jobs than Bush [3 million in eight years]
What an un-American Rush is.
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MCMetal Says:
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JohnM Says:
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But I am sure you wanted his policies to fail, torture? Tax breaks for the rich? Social security reform? That is all Limbaugh has said, he wants the policies that Obama is presenting to fail because he believe they will have a long term negative effect on the country. Just like I am sure you thought the Bush policies would.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
There’s a tiny difference ; Reaganomics has proven itself to be one of the worst policies in US history.
Conservative judges made an unconscionable and illogical decision in their 2000 presidential election decision , and expressly stated that it should set no precedent ; that is unheard of and has NEVER been invoked before.
In 8 years , Bush proved all those who opposed him from the very beginning , to be spot-on : that he had absolutely no business holding any office , let alone the highest elected office in the land , with zero success in any area.
Keep rationalizing all you want. You wanted him to fail and you have admitted it. Let’s move on.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:50 pmThe surge worked in WHAT WAY? There were 18 benchmarks that were supposed to be accomplished and less than half of them happened. The fact we got out of the way in some provinces and started PAYING the militias not to kill each other DID lower violence but is there political stability in Iraq? Arent there still carbombs going off? When we leave isnt there still a pretty good liklihood of renewed violent civil war? The ONLY thing the surge, and payments, accomplished was a lessening of the violence and even THAT can largely be attributed to the fact that the ethnic cleansing of neighborhoods was completed. All it did was give simpleminded brainwashed sheeple like YOU a talking point. Iraq is STILL a ticking timebomb of instability and weak government
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PatrioticLiberalChristianMantisReligiosa Says:
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JohnM Says: He has explained it many times. Maybe if you listened to what he said in it’s entirety instead of reading quotes are hearing part of a segment here you would know that.
When Rush stops distorting Obama and the rest of us (i.e. unpatriotic, feminazis, terrorist-sympathizers) and when you and your ilk stop distorting what we say and write, then perhaps we can have a reasonable debate on policy. Until then, WE are the majority and WE should put forth policies WE want without regard to wishes that you, Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly, Bohner, Bachman, et al have.
Of course you are the majority and you should put forth your policies, and we can hope they fail. And when they fail, we can simply say we told you so.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:50 pmPoll questions are misleading.
Do you want Bush policies to fail? No.
Do you think Bush policies will fail? Yes.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pmJohnM has allowed himself to be terrorized by Cheney and Limbaugh into supporting un-American policies.
Of course, he’s a pussy, so he didn’t have enough spine to resist.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pmJohnM is just a liar
We wanted Bush to STOP FAILING
But John is too much of a sissy to admit it
May 26th, 2009 at 1:52 pmJohnM is a failure supporter
May 26th, 2009 at 1:52 pmEugeneDebs Says:
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The surge worked in WHAT WAY? There were 18 benchmarks that were supposed to be accomplished and less than half of them happened. The fact we got out of the way in some provinces and started PAYING the militias not to kill each other DID lower violence but is there political stability in Iraq? Arent there still carbombs going off? When we leave isnt there still a pretty good liklihood of renewed violent civil war? The ONLY thing the surge, and payments, accomplished was a lessening of the violence and even THAT can largely be attributed to the fact that the ethnic cleansing of neighborhoods was completed. All it did was give simpleminded brainwashed sheeple like YOU a talking point. Iraq is STILL a ticking timebomb of instability and weak government
Exactly what I thought you would say, keep cheering for failure.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:53 pmJohnM keeps on cheering for failure, even after the fail
May 26th, 2009 at 1:53 pmAre you all suprise that Loudmouth Republican leader Rush
May 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pmLimbaugh wants Sotomayor to fail?. Republicans in Congress kiss his toes everyday. He is jealous of educated people because he is a college dropout. Republican party is sinking with Captain Loudmouth Dropout Limbaugh in control.
JohnM thinks America is too weak to defeat terrorist criminals without resorting to war and torture
I sure am glad that most Americans are not such cowards.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pmJohnM
A FOXPOLL. Stop wasting our time with rightwing bilge. They didnt even say what the question was. See it isnt that we dont think there are rightwing bloviators out there telling you what to think. Its that we dont CARE what they say and prefer reality. Either cough up decent sources or go fly a kite.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pmspring heeled jack Says:
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JohnM says:
But I am sure you wanted his policies to fail, torture?
So you admit that it was Bush’s policy to torture? Wow.
I admit that you believe it was torture and you wanted it to fail.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pmFor all the trolls and apologists for the Bush Crime Family:
We defeated you in 2006 and 2008. We won and you lost. You should sit down and shut the hell up until the next election. What you think and what you want do not matter in the larger picture. You wingnuts need to learn to be on the bench because you are failures. You failed at leading and we are not going to take advise from failures. Learn to be second string because someday soon there will be another party that is more important as the GOP declines to WHIP status.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pmJohnM Says:
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Keep rationalizing all you want. You wanted him to fail and you have admitted it. Let’s move on.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I’m judging him for the (lack of?) work he did , not what I wanted.
You believe I wished he didn’t illegally and stupidly invade Iraq ?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:55 pmOr give tax cuts for the wealthy , which not only makes absolutely no sense , but which appears to reward those with so much to begin with ?
You believe I wanted him to FAIL in helping New Orleans residents ?
Your projection and ignorance are applling ………..
even with the media on their side, Americans saw through the fear mongering and elected an intelligent, brave, pragmatic president.
and the fact that his skin is brown really scares right wing cowards like JohnM and OS
May 26th, 2009 at 1:55 pmWow! 51% wanted him to fail, and guess nobody here could have been part of that majority. They all must have been democrats that did not frequent sites like this.
If you’re going to cite polls, please also include the demographics, margin of error and confidence interval please. I’ll be waiting.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:55 pmJohn Rush is a liar, a bloviating screechmonkey and an admitted propagandist. I dont go to such sources for information so I am NOT going to listen to him. I gave the man a chance he is a liar and has no decency. If you are a ditttobot your mind is worthless. Save yourself. Stop being a brainwashed fool.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pmJohnM, a fox poll? Really, a fox poll? You have got to be kidding?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pmOh lord. It’s always the same stupid crap with you teabagging wingnuts, isn’t it?
How many times did you idiots figuratively wag your fingers in our faces and tell us that if we didn’t “support our President” during wartime we were “terrorist sympathizers”…?
Well, newflash for you, you moronic mouthbreathers – it’s still wartime.
So… SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT, you unAmerican terrorist-loving fruitfly larvae – or drink a big cup of STFU.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pmJohnM uses a faux news poll to prove his point that Democrats wanted bush to fail, Bhahahahahaha. How many Democrats would even answer a faux poll, let alone watch that trash TV?
May 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pmJohnM Says: Exactly what I thought you would say, keep cheering for failure.
This is PRECISELY what I complained about, JohnM. There was no “cheering” in the post you responded to you. You are distorting/lying about what a progressive says.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pmJohnM Says:
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JohnM says:
But I am sure you wanted his policies to fail, torture?
So you admit that it was Bush’s policy to torture? Wow.
I admit that you believe it was torture and you wanted it to fail.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
No one needs believe it was anything , let alone shj ; the Red Cross decides what constitutes torture , not you nor anyone else here , and they have indeed stated that THE US DID INDEED TORTURE DETAINEES………..End of story.
May 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pmannie, the republicans worked WITH the terrorists, to amplify their “scariness”, to help push the agenda that al-queada and the republican party share: curbing freedom and expanding religious tyranny
May 26th, 2009 at 1:57 pmJohnM Says:
Exactly what I thought you would say, keep cheering for failure.
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GEE I posted some reality and you anticipated it what WERE the chances. Keep being a brainwashed moron
May 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pmrepublicans and AQ are working towards the same goals, but terrorism only works on the terrified
May 26th, 2009 at 2:00 pmJohnM Says:
I admit that you believe it was torture and you wanted it to fail.
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You admit you are a brainwashed moron who thinks what he is TOLD to think and believes what he is TOLD to believe. Yeah, we knew that
May 26th, 2009 at 2:00 pm…
JohnM,
feeling lonely?
:)
May 26th, 2009 at 2:00 pmTranslation: “I knew you would bring in “facts” and “logic” to argue, so I will make up an accusation to fling your way to distract from my failure to bring anything by lies and delusions to the discussion.”
May 26th, 2009 at 2:00 pmEugeneDebs Says:
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JohnM
A FOXPOLL. Stop wasting our time with rightwing bilge. They didnt even say what the question was. See it isnt that we dont think there are rightwing bloviators out there telling you what to think. Its that we dont CARE what they say and prefer reality. Either cough up decent sources or go fly a kite.
Here is the question from the foxnews poll. Why would Fox News make this up in 2006 to prove that the left is no better than Limbaugh in 2009? Keep deluding yourself, that the left has takent he moral high ground on this matter because they clearly have not.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/03/democrats_wanted_bush_to_fail.html
“Would you say you want President Bush to succeed or not?” asked an August 2006 Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll. The result? Ninety percent of Republicans wanted Bush to succeed, versus 7 percent who did not. Among independents, 63 percent wanted the President to succeed, compared with 34 percent who did not. What about Democrats? Forty percent wanted him to succeed, but 51 percent did not.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:01 pmLimbaugh said:
“Do I still want to Obama to fail as President? Yeah, — AP, you getting this?”
I’m posting this here for the next time a troll says, “He said he hopes Obama’s POLICIES fail, not that he fails.” Limbaugh wants the President and, therefore, this country to fail, trolls. He doesn’t give a rat’s bum about you or anyone else. Why would you defend this bloated cockroach?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:01 pmJohnM uses a faux news poll to prove his point that Democrats wanted bush to fail, Bhahahahahaha. How many Democrats would even answer a faux poll, let alone watch that trash TV?
which is why I asked for the backup information. I’m betting money he can’t find it.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm*yawn*
This is news?
Sooner or later, Limbaugh’s latest obscene utterances will just be too boring and predictable to list on TP’s front pages. He will be, as a certain corrupt and criminal Attorney General once put it, quaint and irrelevant.
Totally.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pmJohn, you really should just stop flailing about
you have been proven wrong, yet again
take your lumps and learn something for a change
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JohnM Says:
EugeneDebs Says:
The surge worked in WHAT WAY? There were 18 benchmarks that were supposed to be accomplished and less than half of them happened.
Exactly what I thought you would say, keep cheering for failure.
Translation: “I knew you would bring in “facts” and “logic” to argue, so I will make up an accusation to fling your way to distract from my failure to bring anything by lies and delusions to the discussion.”
Actually I knew you would fail to admit the obvious success and how Iraq is not longer on the front page everyday because of it.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pmJohnM thinks the failure in Iraq helps his case
what an ignorant little coward he is
May 26th, 2009 at 2:04 pmJohnM pretends the reason the Cheney Admin claimed we had to invade Iraq was anything other than a false claim of WMDs
torture was implemented to try to obtain false confessions, but even that failed
poor little right wing cowards, being shown to be wrong AND a bunch of sissies
May 26th, 2009 at 2:05 pmjoe cantwell Says:
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JohnM,
feeling lonely?
:)
Not quite as lonely as you would think.
http://pollingreport.com/2010.htm
“I know it is a long way off, but thinking about the elections in 2010, if the election for U.S. Congress were held today, would you be voting for?
Dems-46%
May 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pmRepubs-44%
Iraq is no longer on the front page because the media is a joke.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pmJohn M, nice to meet you. You wrote:
” Keep deluding yourself, that the left has takent he moral high ground on this matter because they clearly have not.”
Uh…the left has the higher moral ground because we are MODERATES. Moderates are leftists to neocons because: We abhor torture and believe it should remain illegal; we believe the Iraq Invasion was illegal, immoral, and a near-complete failure, which it was; we could see George W. Bush for what he actually was–a liar, a thief of unparalleled magnitude, and a mass murderer and torturer-in-Chief, a near-completely perfect failure in nearly every aspect of his eight years.
Also: I just can’t think of any other major poll that asks the question “Do you want so-and-so to fail?” It’s a leading question that makes whoever answers it look incredibly stupid, no matter what their answer.
Look who’s asking it now–Rush Limbaugh. He’s the head of the Republican Party now, and that tells the rest of Americans exactly what we need to know about you.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pmStill a FOX poll. Cough up REAL pollsters doing REAL polls. When I want to make a point I dont cite OPINION pieces by leftwingers like Larry Elder is a rightwinger. I dont post polls done by biased sources. IF YOU want to be taken seriously forget about citing the things that brainwash YOU.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm…
JohnM,
tired, frightened
and alone.
if only someone would
help you.
:)
May 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pmJohnM Says:
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Actually I knew you would fail to admit the obvious success and how Iraq is not longer on the front page everyday because of it.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
The fickle nature of the American public , coupled with their weariness over an illegal and idiotic invasion that should never have occurred in the 1st place , is hardly an indication of “success” , dummy.
BTW
You view us still being in a dump like Iraq , which we are still involved with after 6 years , when World War 2 was won in under 4 , and is still unstable and potentially volatile , as a “success” ?
Delusional much ?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pmI looked at JohnM link and did not find the poll question that was asked.
But I think this was it: http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/FOX_230_release_web.pdf
The question is worded in such a way to make it unusable
May 26th, 2009 at 2:10 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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What about Democrats? Forty percent wanted him to succeed, but 51 percent did not.
That’s *WELL* within the margin of error, and with an incredibly small 900 people nationwide. That *SCIENTIFIC* poll doesn’t say what you think it does – DUM BASS TEABAGGING RUBE!! ROTFL!
We all know what you would have answered, you can keep lying here all you want.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:10 pmForget it, John M. Take comfort from that poll.
But Obama is incredibly popular, and so are the Democrats–in comparison with the Republicans. If I were you, I’d be very careful about hinting that the Republicans are only TWO POINTS BEHIND the Democrats in an extremely generalized poll.
As you probably know, the first mid-term of a President’s first term historically means the President’s party loses a few seats, or maybe a lot. If this is what you’re predicting…then I’m predicting I’ll be laughing my ass off at you in about 15 months for making this prediction.
Why wait?
ha ha
May 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pmJohnM Says:
Actually I knew you would fail to admit the obvious success and how Iraq is not longer on the front page everyday because of it.
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John you are STUPID. I not only admit violence DID go down I am GLAD. Which is NOT the same as achieving the objectives that BUSH HIMSELF said were necessary. It really isnt my fault you are such a moron. Pointing out the REASONS it wasnt much of a success in the long term is relevant and YOU are a moron
May 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pmNews of Lintball’s latest should make all the newscasts — it’s great recruitment for the Democratic party.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pmR-rush
N-newt
C-Cheney
The leaders of the repugs — what a lineup of propagandists, warmongers, fearmongers and traitors to everything America stands for.
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JohnM, you forgot this one.
Democrat 42 Republican 35
and this one
Democrat 41 Republican 34
and this one
Democrat 39 Republican 31
When EVERY OTHER POLL shows you SOMETHING DIFFERENT, you can only cite the ONE POLL that’s the EXCEPTION?
That’s called *DELUSIONAL THINKING* junior!! ROTFL!
I gave the most recent poll question on pollingreport.com. Look at the dates you idiot.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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JohnM Says:
We all know what you would have answered, you can keep lying here all you want.
ROTFL! You don’t know sh*t, you MORON. That’s your PROBLEM!
You don’t even know how to read POLLS! EVERY POLL except ONE says SOMETHING DIFFERENT, and you cite the ONE INCONSISTENT POLL? ROTFL! That’s typical TEABAG MORON TROLLING.
Did you want the Bush policies to succeed?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pmLets reverse the question and change the president.
And we would see that 97% of republicans would not want Obama to succeed.
Clearly the democrats are less partisan, but the question is should have been, I think, do you think Bush will/will not succeed?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:14 pm“The surge worked” ~ JohnM
Not to discredit the fine job our troops did during the “surge”
but the ONLY reasons why the “surge” worked is because:
1-Al Sadr and his army declared a cease fire through out most of the surge.
2-Our government paid tribal leaders big sums of money to keep the violence down.
Of course we didn’t hear these two facts at all in the MSM. We were made to believe that it was all of General Petraus’s doing…
What happens when we cut off the bribe money to the tribal leaders? How do we know they are not using the money to arm other insurgents? What happens when Al Sadr and his army go on the offensive again?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:14 pmWe all know what you would have answered, you can keep lying here all you want.
Again please cite the demographics of that poll and no I don’t just mean party affiliation. Also provide the confidence interval and margin of error. I’m still waiting. Any respectable poll/study would provide that information.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:15 pmI see JohnM is jacking off on a Limpy thread — AGAIN.
Y’all have fun!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:15 pmRush Bimbo speaks and nothing of substance comes out. How does he do that?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:16 pmJohnM
Show us all a poll where it states that Americans want more morons like Alito , Scalia , Roberts or Thomas placed on the SCOTUS ; it doesn’t exist because most Americans , save you 18%’ers clinging to Bush’s awful legacy , want a more wordly , intellectual and intuitive individual.
BTW
Why do losers like yourself and Limbaugh believe your definition of “strict constructionists” makes any sense , when the Constitution and the birth of this nation was concocted and became a reality as a result of liberals , while you conservatives were still loyal to England’s king ?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:17 pmJohnM Says:
Actually I knew you would fail to admit the obvious success and how Iraq is not longer on the front page everyday because of it.
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How much more money are you willing to shell out to keep soldiers in Iraq, John M?
And: Why are we there? What’s the mission? Have you not heard that the last NIE claimed it made us less safe? That al Qaeda had no ties to Iraq, except in claims heard under torture? Do you ever read hard news? Is that how you keep it together?
I’m done in Iraq. Bring the soldiers home, now. Soldiers in Iraq are not keeping us safe. If you really believe that…I’m done with you, too.
Trillions for the nation of Iraq…not one cent for universal health care, which every other industrialized nation offers its citizens, but we, the richest country on Earth (as of today, anyway) somehow can’t afford.
Bull$hit. And you know it.
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So JohnM, if it’s “WRONG” for me to want Bush/Iraq to fail as you WHINE that it is, what about *YOU* and *RUSH* wanting Obama to fail? Isn’t that just HYPOCRISY on your part?
Either it’s NOT A PROBLEM or it IS. So far you’re straddling the fence like a TEABAGGER! ;)
I don’t think it is wrong at all. I would expect that people would want policies to fail that they do not agree with. Which is why I am pointing out the faux outrage of Limbaugh’s comments. You never answered by the way, did you want his policies to fail?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:18 pmSo, JohnM, that FOX poll shows that republicans are making their decision of succeed or succeed by party affiliation alone where as democrats are much less likely to do so.
Rush wants Obama to fail for the simple fact that Obama is not a member of the republican party.
Rush isnt looking at policies, he isnt weighing evidence, he is partisan hack and will always be a partisan hack. His party right or wrong.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:19 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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I gave the most recent poll question on pollingreport.com. Look at the dates you idiot.
I did look at the dates, and the other polls are within days. If you believe the country shifted THAT MUCH in ONE WEEK based on a SINGLE POLL you’re a f*KKKing MORON!
The trend is obvious, the lead is as large as you thought it was.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:20 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
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JohnM Says:
I don’t think it is wrong at all. I would expect that people would want policies to fail that they do not agree with. Which is why I am pointing out the faux outrage of Limbaugh’s comments. You never answered by the way, did you want his policies to fail?
So you’re saying that the GOP WAS WRONG FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS and that you are NOW HYPOCRITES for CHANGING YOUR VALUES?
What are you talking about? I noticed you still have not answered a very simple question.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:21 pmCome on Nazi John, provide evidence that we wanted bush to fail, or else admit you are a liar.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:21 pmSee JohnM is like most delusional republicans, they only know the distorted truth or recreated history they get from the Fox entertainment channel, from Rush Limpdick, etc, etc,.
Nobody wanted Bush to fail. Nobody wanted failure in Iraq or Afghanistan. What we wanted was a successful war strategy, an exit strategy, policies that helped the middle and lower classes, we wanted accountability for 9/11, responsibility for the piss poor management of the Iraq war.
We want America to succeed no matter who is President but when a President is an inept, failure, we will question him and call him out. This goes for a republican or a democratic President because unlike conservatives we progressives put our country first over our own party.
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Come on Nazi John, provide evidence that we wanted bush to fail, or else admit you are a liar.
I just provided a poll from 2006 that 51% of dems wanted him to fail and only 40% wanted him to succeed.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:22 pmJohn M:
The only thing that matters is this:
George W. Bush was a criminal, a liar, who put us into historical debt, collapsed our economy, murdered hundreds of thousands, tortured thousands, spied on you and me illegally and lied to our faces about it, etc, etc, etc.
President Obama has so far upheld the rule of law–except in cases of warrantless wiretapping and habeus corpus for terror ’suspects’.
I sincerely hoped that Bush did not succeed (but since I occupy reality, I knew he was getting his way no matter what) in his policies. They were criminal.
I hope Obama succeeds in the policies I agree with.
Bush, criminal; Obama, lawful, but willing to be overruled by a legitimate court of law as according to our Constitution. There really is no comparison, and your parsing arguments are juvenile as well as comical.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:22 pmThank God the American Taliban is now the minority party and only has 21% support of Americans…very ignorant Americans!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pmUncle Fester Lurks Says:
Nobody wanted Bush to fail.
Daddy-O Says:
I sincerely hoped that Bush did not succeed
May 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pmI don’t think it is wrong at all. I would expect that people would want policies to fail that they do not agree with.
Huh? I dont think thats a very intelligent way of looking at policies…I disagreed with Bush policies because I didnt think they would work, which means lets talk about this.
Wishing policies to fail, refusing to work out the differences, so you can claim a victory is not good policy
May 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pmYou tell him Daddy-O!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pmI visited my horses in Kentucky over the weekend and my horse trainer, unsolicited, just went off on Limbaugh and the Republcans. He said, “I have been a Republican all my life, but the party has left me.” He said he voted for Obama and that the whole Rush thing was ludicrous and that the party basically was a disaster with no ideas but to take the 180 degree view against anything Obama did, whether they had analyzed a better alternative or whether it even made sense or not.
Hello — Republicans — you are LOSING lifelong Republicans in KENTUCKY!!!!!!!!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pmXisithrus Says:
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I don’t think it is wrong at all. I would expect that people would want policies to fail that they do not agree with.
Huh? I dont think thats a very intelligent way of looking at policies…I disagreed with Bush policies because I didnt think they would work, which means lets talk about this.
Wishing policies to fail, refusing to work out the differences, so you can claim a victory is not good policy
It is more about hoping the policies fail so better ones can be used is the reason why both sides hope the other’s fail.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:26 pmYou provided a Foxpoll first of all with NO description of how it was taken what the demographics were or really anything that would allow us to know its efficacy. A BIASED organizations poll. Not good enough second you said you were sure WE, not Democrats overall, wanted Bush to fail. Ya got nothin except an endless stream of brainwashed talking points and telling us WHO brainwashed you. No substance, no logic, NOTHING.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:27 pmI just provided a poll from 2006 that 51% of dems wanted him to fail and only 40% wanted him to succeed. JohnM
Your forgetting to look at the 97% who would want Obama to fail if the president was changed.
THATS the difference, 97% of republicans would want Obama to fail. And your just as partisan as they are JohnM. Whereas many democrats arent. Your polls have had just the opposite effect you desired.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:27 pmJohnM can prevaricate and obfuscate all he wants and it still won’t change these titles:
PRESIDENT Obama
SENATOR Franken
JUSTICE Sotomayor
Poor little impotent JohnM, still looking to the failed party for justification of his bigotry and cowardice
May 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pmJohnM Says:
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Uncle Fester Lurks Says:
Nobody wanted Bush to fail.
Daddy-O Says:
I sincerely hoped that Bush did not succeed
May 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I notice you conveniently left out that Daddy-O stated it was because Bush’s policies/actions were ILLEGAL , you dishonest tool………….
May 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pmSince Mr. Repulicans hate the facts has not answered my question we can all assume he was too much of a pussy to do so. I would love to sit and see if he ever does, but I have to run. Have fun everybody!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:29 pmIt is more about hoping the policies fail so better ones can be used is the reason why both sides hope the other’s fail.
The poll you posted doesnt bare that out.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:29 pmJohnM, why would I want Bush to succeed in spying on me?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in torturing innocent people to death?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in invading Iraq based on evidence drawn from torturing ’suspects’?
Why would I want Bush to spend $3 trillion and counting on a failed Iraq Invasion?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in lying to every American about warrantless wiretapping he was conducting before 9-11 in order to barely get ‘re-elected’ in 2004?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in ignoring New Orleans after Katrina?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in firing US Attorneys because they weren’t loyal enough?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in muzzling Joe Wilson by illegally and treasonably outing his wife Valerie Plame?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in scaring most of the country into invading Iraq, with such lies as ’smoking mushroom cloud’, et al?
It’s a grand kabuki play, and you’re the headliner. You think you’ve got some coup by your immoral and deceptive cut-and-paste of my post. You’re a g*dd*mn*d f**king liar, dude, just like your hero, who’s now picking up dogsh*t in Dallas, and soon to be picking up paper in the prison exercise yard.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:29 pmRight wingers are saying she doesn’t have intellectual chops?
What was the IQ of GWB????? Enough Said…..F**KEN IDIOTS!!!!
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I just provided a poll from 2006 that 51% of dems wanted him to fail and only 40% wanted him to succeed. JohnM
Your forgetting to look at the 97% who would want Obama to fail if the president was changed.
THATS the difference, 97% of republicans would want Obama to fail. And your just as partisan as they are JohnM. Whereas many democrats arent. Your polls have had just the opposite effect you desired.
Where is this 97% poll that shows even though more than 20% of dems wanted Bush to fail than to succeed proves that republicans are more partisan?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:30 pmJohnM is still being dishonest
even IF we wanted Bush’s POLICIES to fail, that is not the same as he and rush wanting Obama to fail
he is just being dishonest again because all he cares about is his “team”, not America
JohnM is just another right wing partisan coward
May 26th, 2009 at 2:30 pmJohnM Says:
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It is more about hoping the policies fail so better ones can be used is the reason why both sides hope the other’s fail.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Can you even name ONE policy from your side during the last 30 or 40 years that is “better” ?
I’m betting you cannot………..
May 26th, 2009 at 2:30 pmContext is important here. Limbaugh made his comment at the outset of the first African American Presidency during a major financial crisis. The Fox poll cited was six years into a disasterous Bush presidency where Dems were dying for change in the White House.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:31 pmJohnM pussed out and ran once all his talking points were shot down
typical right wing pansy
May 26th, 2009 at 2:31 pmIt is more about hoping the policies fail so better ones can be used is the reason why both sides hope the other’s fail.
Except republicans offer no alternatives, just…no!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:31 pmDaddy-O Says:
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JohnM, why would I want Bush to succeed in spying on me?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in torturing innocent people to death?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in invading Iraq based on evidence drawn from torturing ’suspects’?
Why would I want Bush to spend $3 trillion and counting on a failed Iraq Invasion?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in lying to every American about warrantless wiretapping he was conducting before 9-11 in order to barely get ‘re-elected’ in 2004?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in ignoring New Orleans after Katrina?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in firing US Attorneys because they weren’t loyal enough?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in muzzling Joe Wilson by illegally and treasonably outing his wife Valerie Plame?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in scaring most of the country into invading Iraq, with such lies as ’smoking mushroom cloud’, et al?
It’s a grand kabuki play, and you’re the headliner. You think you’ve got some coup by your immoral and deceptive cut-and-paste of my post. You’re a g*dd*mn*d f**king liar, dude, just like your hero, who’s now picking up dogsh*t in Dallas, and soon to be picking up paper in the prison exercise yard.
Never said you should want him to succeed. Just showing the hypocrisy around here. OK, I really have to go now.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:32 pmJohnM IS showing the hypocrisy around here….
…his
May 26th, 2009 at 2:32 pmRantingTommy, I agree with your assertion that this guy is…laughable.
Hit-and-run, too. He scoops up a partial quote from me, since I ‘answered’ his loaded question, and runs like Bush on 9-11.
Two of a kind.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:32 pmLets face it, many republicans really don’t give a damn about our country, they only care about their own pocketbook and their ideology for which they expect everyone else in the country to agree with or they are quickly labeled as unpatriotic or as a traitor.
If you are a republican these days you support:
May 26th, 2009 at 2:33 pm1-Torture
2-War
3-Corruption
4-Hate
5-Illegal surveillance
6-Racism
7-Corporations
8-The shredding of the constitution
9-Globalism
10-Bigotry
11-Hypocrisy
12-Blatant lies by the media
13-Allow others to think for you.
Hypocrisy? I never said I didn’t want Bush to fail OR succeed. Your loaded questions are laughable, and convince nobody but yourself and your ditto-heads.
I really have to go now, too. I just wasted more time in this thread than I have in weeks. Here’s the nut, John M:
You got nothin’. Absolutely nothin’. Not a d*mned thing. And that MUST suck.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:33 pmgreenbean says: Right wingers are saying she doesn’t have intellectual chops???? UGGHH WHEN IS IT ENOUGH! WHAT SHOULD SHE HAVE DONE BETTER?
Settle down, cowboy….you just can’t expect too much from Rethugs who thought GWB was a brilliant man. I’m not sure there is anyone in these “vocal” winger comments who has an IQ in the 3 digits! In their party, it’s usually the blind leading the bland, so can’t get too riled up about them. Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:33 pmI would be more concerned if the ritewing nuts weren’t throwing their usual hissy fit over the pick. If the fat fck is having another tantrum, it must be good for the country.
Up or down vote! The prepared editor would already have the republican hypocricy clips lined up. They won’t be too keen on the nuclear option this time, will they?
The Supreme Court needs to get outside of the white-male-landowner theme.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:34 pmI just provided a poll from 2006 that 51% of dems wanted him to fail and only 40% wanted him to succeed.
and I asked for some simple information that any respectable poll would also provide and you still haven’t answered.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:35 pmI don’t think it is wrong at all. I would expect that people would want policies to fail that they do not agree with. Which is why I am pointing out the faux outrage of Limbaugh’s comments. You never answered by the way, did you want his policies to fail?
Yes, because he was ignoring the weapons’ inspectors’ results, in favor of unilateral invasion based upon specious, cherry-picked intelligence. He was taking a clearly dishonest position, and ignoring alternatives.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:36 pmRush Limbaugh would be against any pick Obama made, even if Obama picked Rush Limbaugh
Their fear-based hatred is permanently ingrained and no amount of information or reality can defeat it
May 26th, 2009 at 2:37 pmThe GOP and their silly backers trying to question Sotomayor’s intelligence/intellect , makes about as much sense as players on the Detroit Lions claiming that the Pittsburgh Steelers SUCK …………
May 26th, 2009 at 2:37 pmExit JohnM, troll number one. The table is now open for troll number two.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:39 pmGosh, what a surprise. Brainless one is saying no again.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:41 pmJohnM Says:
Since Mr. Repulicans hate the facts has not answered my question we can all assume he was too much of a pussy to do so. I would love to sit and see if he ever does, but I have to run. Have fun everybody!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
JohnM Says:
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Xisithrus Says:
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I just provided a poll from 2006 that 51% of dems wanted him to fail and only 40% wanted him to succeed. JohnM
Your forgetting to look at the 97% who would want Obama to fail if the president was changed.
THATS the difference, 97% of republicans would want Obama to fail. And your just as partisan as they are JohnM. Whereas many democrats arent. Your polls have had just the opposite effect you desired.
Where is this 97% poll that shows even though more than 20% of dems wanted Bush to fail than to succeed proves that republicans are more partisan?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
JohnM Says:
Daddy-O Says:
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JohnM, why would I want Bush to succeed in spying on me?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in torturing innocent people to death?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in invading Iraq based on evidence drawn from torturing ’suspects’?
Why would I want Bush to spend $3 trillion and counting on a failed Iraq Invasion?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in lying to every American about warrantless wiretapping he was conducting before 9-11 in order to barely get ‘re-elected’ in 2004?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in ignoring New Orleans after Katrina?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in firing US Attorneys because they weren’t loyal enough?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in muzzling Joe Wilson by illegally and treasonably outing his wife Valerie Plame?
Why would I want Bush to succeed in scaring most of the country into invading Iraq, with such lies as ’smoking mushroom cloud’, et al?
It’s a grand kabuki play, and you’re the headliner. You think you’ve got some coup by your immoral and deceptive cut-and-paste of my post. You’re a g*dd*mn*d f**king liar, dude, just like your hero, who’s now picking up dogsh*t in Dallas, and soon to be picking up paper in the prison exercise yard.
Never said you should want him to succeed. Just showing the hypocrisy around here. OK, I really have to go now.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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you were leaving.
but you lied.
again.
:)
May 26th, 2009 at 2:41 pmI just provided a poll from 2006 that 51% of dems wanted him to fail and only 40% wanted him to succeed.
Citing a poll 5 or 6 years already into the worst presidency in US history is the equivalent of wanting someone to fail before they even begin ?
How is that any type of an equivalent ?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:41 pmI tell ya, Rush Limbaugh is the best thing to ever happen to us democrats.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:42 pmJohn M, Facialist!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:43 pmYou keep “hoping for failure,” Rush, and we’ll keep delivering success.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pmWhere is this 97% poll that shows even though more than 20% of dems wanted Bush to fail than to succeed proves that republicans are more partisan?
I reversed the numbers on the one you linked to..its quite a fair assessment.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pmMcMetal says: “that he had absolutely no business holding any office , let alone the highest elected office in the land , with zero success in any area.”
Au contraire, mon ami…………Junior had lots of success in draining the US Treasury directly into the pockets of himself and his cronies…in fact, he excelled at that. There’s not a penny left and we’re trillions in debt and hence he has sabotaged any success that Obama might have had if he had not done that. And, as a bonus, his arrogance and that of his buddies Cheney, Rove & Rummy, has absolutely achieved all that Osama Bin Laden set out to do: Bankrupt America, make it the most hated nation in the world, and turn its citizens against each other. Mission Accomplished!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:47 pmRanting Tommy is right. Limbaugh had today (or tomorrow’s) show planned out before this pick was even announced. All he has to do is overdub her name in the right places, then splice in a few shots of him tugging on Princess Leia’s chains and the show is done! Perfecto!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:48 pmWhy does anyone pay attention to anything this man says??? He’s not a loyal opposition. He’s saying whatever will provoke, feed his simple minded base — and (most important) generate ratings. The words, “I want them to fail.” are meaningless. What he’s really saying is, “I want them to be stopped.” And he’s doing what he can to make that happen. The media are to blame for the attention he’s getting. It’s completely drowning out rational discourse — but then it’s much more fun to pay attention to Rush than actually discuss the issues on their merits. Aren’t we fed up with this yet?
May 26th, 2009 at 2:50 pmI HEART SOTOMAYER!
Faux Newz keeps talkin about this quote of hers like its a bad thing:
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”
Of course they would. WHat kinda experience do wealthy white men get while playing golf in private clubs and investing in hedge fundz? Not the kind you need to be a fair judge who understands the plight of minoities! THats for sure! We need judges who can sympathize with those who were NOT born with a silva spoon. Laws are too rigid and need judges to understand peoples feelings and society-created issues/problems (especaily minoties). She is so right!
May 26th, 2009 at 2:51 pmJohnM Says:
You arent showing anything except how stupid you are. Your being too stupid to understand a simple point is not evidence that those schooling you are hypocrites. My GOD you are an idiot
May 26th, 2009 at 2:54 pmoilforillegals: All right folks, troll number two has stepped up to the table.
May 26th, 2009 at 2:57 pmoilforillegals
Could someone translate?
Is he offering oil for illegals?
May 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pmoilforillegals Says:
Then why do you far lefties keep wishing death upon him? HUH?
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I am a far lefty. I dont wish death on him or anyone else. Why are YOU so stupid?
May 26th, 2009 at 3:04 pmThe Republic Party Purification rituals have transcended into the American Taliban Inquisitions.
Joe McCarthy, move over, we gots us some Hillbilly Heroin Heroes!
May 26th, 2009 at 3:05 pmFOX poll, from JohnMs earlier poll.
Imagine for a moment that you were running for elected office as a Republican this year. Would you want President Bush to campaign for you or not?
SCALE: 1. Yes, would want him to campaign 2. No, would not want him to campaign
3. (Don’t know)
___________Yes__ No
8-9 Aug 06 37% 60%
Heh.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:05 pmNo one here needs to wish death on limpballs, he’s doing a pretty good job all by his self, being overweight and a drug addict.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:06 pmI havent and dont. However, isnt a drug addiction a way of shortening your life span? Harming your kidneys or liver? And smoking all those cigars cant be good. Nor being overweight.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:08 pmWe can thank Rotten Reagan for the Rash Limpballs, his Oxycoten gallery and his Puerto Rican 12 year olds. If one recalls, he’s the President who had white out the “Right for equal time for opposing views.” Thanks Ronnie for giving us the Aligator mouth with the HIPPO ass.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:27 pmoilforillegals Says:
Following last year’s successful “Black in America” documentary series, CNN will turn its cameras on America’s Latino population with the two-part documentary series “Latino in America” premiering in October.
Racist? Indeed.
How?
May 26th, 2009 at 3:32 pmahhhh yes, patriotism. tub-o-lard style. someone ought to tell ole tub-o-lard he sounds like a tin-pot dictator who lost his rule and is fuming in exile.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:35 pmWhat if Fox News (#1) did a doc on “Whites In America?”
What if they did? I don’t understand how that would be racist either…
May 26th, 2009 at 3:35 pmApparently, our latest conservative screen name believes that any recognition that that are different races among the human family is racist.
Serves their purpose, though. The more they can dilute the actual meaning of the term, the less the sting when they’re branded by it.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pmralph,
May 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pmand in lockstep with the 20%er “base” he’s pushing for a documentary produced by stormfront and aired on fixed news. maybe they could use “dixie” for their theme song, a nice montage of confederate flags…
ALL THEIR REGULAR PROGRAMMING IS “Whites in America”.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:46 pmThese two teabagging trolls think that if one poster says they wanted Bush to fail it’s the same as having a major party leader on the air saying the same thing. Complete morons.
May 26th, 2009 at 3:48 pmYou know i think its time someone tells this stupid guy to shut up , As Americans we really do not care what he say but in all sense as Wanda said , i hope his oxycotic drugged kidneys fail and his fat heart to fail .how about that ?
May 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pmI hate Rush too but I don’t understand your point. He is just a regular citizen, as is the poster who said they want Barry to fail. Neither of them hold elected office, so said poster is as much of a “Major Party Leader” as Rush. Rush just has a bigger megaphone. What makes Rush a “Major Party Leader?” Just because Rahm said he is does not make it so.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pmHehehe… “just a regular citizen”…
Concern trolls used to try harder to cover their tracks.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:09 pmoilforillegals Says:
What if Fox News (#1) did a doc on “Whites In America?”
“White” isn’t an ethnic group. “Germans In America” or “The Irish In America” would be just fine though.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:23 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I believe that if Obama succeeds in passing his socialist policies, weakening our national defense and burrying us in debt that even our children and grandchildren will not be able to pay, our Country will fail. I want our country to succeed. Thus, I want Obama to fail.
Except it was your party’s policies that caused the financial meltdown, necessitating a huge fix. If you’re voting for failure after being silent during the Bush years of constant failure, it fair to assume you’re too partisan to present a cogent argument, devoid of histrionics, and overblown hyperbole. You’re hoping America fails, and no amount of weasel wording can obscure that fact. I hear Panama is nice this time of year, why don’t you go check it out?
May 26th, 2009 at 4:37 pmElBruce.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:39 pmMeh. I find it hard to find “Whites in America” a racist project… I think you can group people just about any way you want for a documentary project… for instance, “French Speakers in America” would also not truly be about an ethnic group and also not racist, in my opinion. I don’t know what oily is on about, frankly…
I want our country to succeed. Thus, I want Obama to fail.
But it was Bush the conservative who ushered in this new age of socialism. You must have wanted his policies to fail, as well, since Obama’s are mostly an extension of conservative Bush’s.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:39 pmoilforillegals Says:
Racist? Indeed.
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STUPID? There can be no doubt. You DEFINE stupid. Fox by the way MORON is NOT #1. The network news still DWARFS their ratings my GOD you are stupid.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:43 pmConservative PUNK
I see you are still so STUPID you dont know what the word socialist means. Why are you so proud to be so stupid?
May 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pmC4P~ Don’t worry… I have a feeling that both our country and Obama will succeed, in spite of you and your ilk.
It won’t matter much to you, however… you can always claim later that we would have succeeded much SOONER if you guys had been allowed to continue running things into the ground…
After all, if you can re-write the Great Depression why not this one too?
May 26th, 2009 at 4:45 pmbelaccifer lacca Says:
OilyMORON isnt trying to make sense. HE is a punkass troll. HE is doing what really stupid punkass trolls do
May 26th, 2009 at 4:45 pmagreed Eugene.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:46 pmRu$h: I hope your sobriety fails … then your kidneys ya jerk
May 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pmAnd I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
Obama will pass most of his agenda, since he has a Democratic Congress and the support of most of the American public.
If your hope for his failure ends at the passage of his priorities into law, and once they are the direction this nation takes forward out of this recession and out of our foreign entanglements, fine.
But if you still hope for the failure of the President’s policies once they’re enacted, then you’re hoping for the failure of the nation, for selfish partisan reasons.
Personally I hope the nation succeeds. When Bush was in charge, I hoped that his economic policies would deliver prosperity that we would all share. I didn’t think it likely, and it turns out I was correct, but I didn’t hope for the failure of the economy.
I hoped that his foreign policy succeeded, even though it seemed wrong-headed to me at every turn. But I hoped our military could accomplish what was needed in Iraq and Afghanistan and return home quickly. I hoped that Bush’s belligerent sabre-rattling would have the intended effect on the “Axis of Evil” but instead it had the opposite effect.
One can see potential problems ahead and still hope for a positive outcome, however unlikely it seems.
You guys don’t seem to be able to do that.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:56 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I believe that if Obama succeeds in passing his socialist policies, weakening our national defense and burrying us in debt that even our children and grandchildren will not be able to pay, our Country will fail. I want our country to succeed. Thus, I want Obama to fail.
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So let me get this straight. ANY government policy that helps the poor, the sick, the elderly, the middle class is seen by the republicans as socialism?
Our national defense has been weakened by Bush’s phony, perpetual war on terrorism. Not only has it stretched our military dangerously thin it has taken it’s toll on our soldiers and equipment.
“Obama is burying us in debt”….how quickly these idiotic republican trolls forget about Bush and the republicans out of control spending, spending which added up to more than all previous administrations combined. Our grandchildren will be paying for Bush’s war in Iraq, the war that is costing us billions upon billions of dollars.
It was the “Do nothing/rubber stamping” republican majority and the Bush administration that has led our countries economy straight to the edge of the abyss. Republicans can point fingers all they want but they were in control for 8+ years and did nothing to fix the mortgage crisis, end the oil speculation and the banking/Wall Street crisis.
And in closing it was the Bush administration who began the orginal bailout of the banks and Wall street and AIG. So you idiotic republican trolls can use selective memory all you want but it won’t change the FACT as to which President and which party has gotten us in the mess we are in today.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:57 pmbelaccifer lacca Says:
ElBruce.
Meh. I find it hard to find “Whites in America” a racist project… I think you can group people just about any way you want for a documentary project…
When people “group themselves” as “white,” they’re actually grouping themselves as not “colored.” That’s why it’s racist to do so. The various “white” ethnic groups have no more in common with each other than they do with any ethnicity from a different skin tone. The only practical consequences of such a grouping have been slavery, apartheid and Jim Crow laws of various kinds around the world. That is in fact the only purpose for such a grouping.
You don’t have to be a Aryan Nations neo-Nazi to be racist. Willful ignorance of what ethnicity and race means, and how it plays out in real peoples’ lives is quieter but far more virulent in America even today, as you have amply demonstrated here.
May 26th, 2009 at 4:59 pmYou don’t have to be a Aryan Nations neo-Nazi to be racist. Willful ignorance of what ethnicity and race means, and how it plays out in real peoples’ lives is quieter but far more virulent in America even today, as you have amply demonstrated here.
Whoa- that was uncalled for… I merely pointed out that you can shoot a documentary on “Whites in America” and not be a racist, nor is it necessarily a ‘racist’ project, any more than “Latino’s in America” is… certainly both COULD be racist depending on execution but the projects themselves are not inherently racist.
Ya dig?
Oppression is not the “only” reason for grouping people in any certain way… certainly, it can be a reason… but just because you decide to do a documentary on the “(Insert Any Grouping) Experience in America” does not necessarily mean you are intent on oppressing others.
May 26th, 2009 at 5:20 pmConsidering she is a Bush nominee and a Bush promotee, what is the big problem here?
May 26th, 2009 at 5:25 pmIf I were a policeman
May 26th, 2009 at 5:26 pm—–
Would you speed?
In fact, you could do a project on being ‘White in America’ that examined the role that ethnicity and race play out in real people’s lives and what exactly they mean… and why disparate ethnic groups have been put together under the banner of “WHITE” in America… that would be an interesting project.
Racist project?
I don’t think so…
May 26th, 2009 at 5:27 pmC4P- the problem is C4P is that we are not talking about “speeding’ just for the heck of it… there’s where your metaphor falls apart.
We have a sick economy and if we only do 4 mph over the speed limit on the way to the hospital it will die in the back of the car… but if we do 20 over it has a chance to survive.
See the difference?
May 26th, 2009 at 5:29 pmI’m betting not.
May 26th, 2009 at 5:33 pmAnd you do realize ElBruce that groupings like ‘German’ and ‘Irish’ are pretty arbitrary and fluid as well, right?
Certainly we can explore what shared experiences those groupings have but when do you become “German?”
2nd generation? 4th generation? 1 parent from Germany? One great-grandparent from the Austro-Hungarian Empire? When?
May 26th, 2009 at 5:36 pmhateful SOB…I hope that his sponsors pull their ads from his show.
May 26th, 2009 at 5:37 pmMy position has been and remains very consistent. I was very unhappy with the bailouts that began under the Bush Administration, resulting in the deficit balooning to nearly $400 billion.
Poor deluded sap. We don’t know how big Bush’s budgets actually were because of the off-budget spending. It could be as high as 1.5 trillion, when the off-budget spending is factored in. That makes your example yet another bit of poorly-conceived conservative nonsense.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:05 pmbelaccifer lacca Says:
In fact, you could do a project on being ‘White in America’ that examined the role that ethnicity and race play out in real people’s lives and what exactly they mean… and why disparate ethnic groups have been put together under the banner of “WHITE” in America… that would be an interesting project.
Racist project?
Not provided that it didn’t ignore the racism inherent in that definition. All of those “white” ethnicities were grouped together to define the privileged class. That is, they were grouped not on what they had in common (nothing more than with any other ethnic group), but rather in terms of what they weren’t, aka. “colored.” Any project which purports to claim that skin color constitutes a viable cultural commonality rather than a convenient identifier by which to stratify society – that is, which overlooked the role of racism in creating the cultural construct of “whiteness” – would itself be racist. Whereas one which focused on the racist philosophy behind the concept of “whiteness” would be instructive.
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belaccifer lacca Says:
And you do realize ElBruce that groupings like ‘German’ and ‘Irish’ are pretty arbitrary and fluid as well, right?
Certainly we can explore what shared experiences those groupings have but when do you become “German?”
Hell if I know. It’s totally fluid when it comes to how an individual identifies with an ethnicity. I mean, everybody’s Irish on St. Patrick’s day and Mexican on Cinco De Mayo, right? And most of us American mutts are a genetic salad of all kinds of stuff.
But I was talking about breaking down ethnicities as appropriate subjects for a historical documentary, not individual identification. So that’s irrelevant anyways.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:21 pmAny project which purports to claim that skin color constitutes a viable cultural commonality rather than a convenient identifier by which to stratify society – that is, which overlooked the role of racism in creating the cultural construct of “whiteness” – would itself be racist.
Weeelll. Still don’t know that I agree… if you have no interest in exploring the role racism played in creating ‘whiteness’ and instead do a documentary on the experiences of self-identified ‘whites’ in Modern America, I don’t think that’s racist.
Merely presenting the lives and experiences of ‘white people’ however you or they define themselves is not inherently racist and does not require and an in-depth examination of the history of racist overtones contained in the grouping is not a requirement to avoid a racist label.
In my opinion, that is.
And ethnicities, as you have so ably pointed out, are always about individual identification. It’s not irrelevant… we should explore how and why who we choose to identify with informs and shapes our experiences… saying that ‘German’ is an ‘acceptable’ ethnicity to describe oneself as while ‘white’ or ‘black’ is not seems to me a little overbearing…
People group themselves in all sorts of weird ways and not all of them are racists…
In general, I agree with you… ‘White’ as a concept is silly, over-used and under-understood. But then I feel the same way about most groupings that people use for shorthand… “Goth” or “American” for example… but I would consider both of those fine subjects for a documentary.
May 26th, 2009 at 6:44 pmI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I believe that if Obama succeeds in passing his socialist policies, weakening our national defense and burrying us in debt that even our children and grandchildren will not be able to pay, our Country will fail. I want our country to succeed. Thus, I want Obama to fail.
Explain how Obama has weakened our national defense? Proof please. In case you haven’t noticed, no one here cares what your think.
May 26th, 2009 at 7:11 pmI continue to be amused at how the dittoheads flock to Lush’s defense every time he opens his foul hole. One would think that the “biggest name in radio” could defend his own bile.
But, I suppose, his fans are like religious fanatics who kill in the name of their gods. They just can’t help themselves. They elevate their own status by elevating what they worship, even when they worship what is low and vile.
May 26th, 2009 at 7:12 pmWanda Sykes was right.
May 26th, 2009 at 7:18 pmThe rantings of a perverted drug addict.
May 26th, 2009 at 7:20 pmWho cares what this freak says.
Rush IS failure…that’s all he knows…. in his personal echo chamber that’s all he hears…all he’ll ever be…all he’ll ever know….bouncy-bouncy-bouncy……
May 26th, 2009 at 7:22 pmbelaccifer lacca Says:
if you have no interest in exploring the role racism played in creating ‘whiteness’ and instead do a documentary on the experiences of self-identified ‘whites’ in Modern America, I don’t think that’s racist.
…unless you trace back why it is they identify themselves that way, when people started to do so and what was going on that moved them to do so… then all of a sudden you’re doing a documentary on the history of racism in America. It’s a racist social construct. If you examine the construct, you uncover the racism. If you want to avoid having your documentary be about racism, then all you can do is skim the surface while intentionally ignoring the causes and context of it – which I maintain would be a racist endeavor.
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WAYNEBRO Says:
Wanda Sykes was right.
I’m not sure to what you’re referring, but I completely agree.
May 26th, 2009 at 8:26 pmI can’t imagine a more disgusting, hateful, sick POS than Rush Limbaugh. The only purpose he serves is to flush out the sick fcks that listen to him so we can identify them.
As much as they should be quarantined as soon as we identify them, in America even these blackhearted bastards get a chance to live in their “pursuit of unhappiness”.
May 26th, 2009 at 9:13 pmBesides controlling the master flush-valve for the giant sucking sound that is today’s Christian Values Republican party, Rush serves another purpose as well.
He stands as a colossal monument to right-wing hypocrisy – over and over again.
What I don’t understand is, why we on the left are still so surprised by the hypocrisy from the right?
How many times do we have to see a play written and performed by the same cast before we realize that we know how it will end?
And why haven’t Democrats figured out how to deal with Rush’s Wurlitzer when he always plays the same tune?
May 26th, 2009 at 10:45 pmRHF- when do you become ‘German?’
May 26th, 2009 at 10:47 pmMaybe the kidney failure joke wasn’t in such bad taste after all…
May 27th, 2009 at 12:29 amrepublicans hate facts Says:
The GERMAN and IRISH would DISAGREE WITH YOU.
Wingnuts don’t ask the people actually involved what they think, they just tell them. This sort of attitude is par for the course.
May 27th, 2009 at 2:14 amHas anyone at this post thought of taking Olberman’s lead and tacking on the Rush logo ?
Where Rush is bouncing around on stage at the GOP’s function?
I think all sites should run the Rush bouncing blubber logo!
May 27th, 2009 at 2:32 amWingnuts don’t ask the people actually involved what they think, they just tell them. This sort of attitude is par for the course.
In what world am I a wingnut, ElBruce?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:08 amIsn’t asking the people involved how they identify themselves what I’ve been saying? Read through what I’ve been saying again…
Your misunderstanding me is sort of becoming par for the course…
This idiot obviously is part of a progressive plot. Everything he says moves people further to the left. He is the worse thing to happen to conservetives and the best thing to happen to liberals, and the republicans are too stupid to figure that out. So please Rush, keep up the “good” work. And as for you liberal….shhh, keep it down, my plan is working.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:08 amPresident Obama’s nominee can’t take an oath to be impartial when deciding cases, and at the same time empathize with one side over the other. Justice is supposed to be blind and decided only on the facts of the case.
She has been overruled 60% of the time and has another case of hers on appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court.
Liberals naturally want to make this about race and gender, knock yourselves out. I’m not accepting your label and apparently neither is Rush Limbaugh!
May 27th, 2009 at 12:51 pmI will have to disagree with Rush. He wants Sotomayor to fail, whereas, I hope she never is bestowed the chance to fail.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:15 pmWhat a shock.
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