Mancow: Hannity Called Me After I Was Waterboarded And Said, ‘It’s Still Not Torture’
Mancow: Hannity Called Me After I Was Waterboarded And Said, ‘It’s Still Not Torture’
Last month, Fox News’s Sean Hannity claimed he would agree to be waterboarded “for charity…for the troops’s families.” Since then, multiple pundits have challenged Hannity to undergo the torture tactic, yet he has been unusually silent on the subject of waterboarding since.
Last week, right-wing radio host Erich “Mancow” Muller stepped up to the plate and had himself waterboarded to prove that it isn’t torture. Immediately afterwards, Mancow admitted that it was “absolutely torture” and was “way worse” than he expected.
Yesterday, MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann interviewed Mancow about his experience under the bucket. “I would have said anything to make it stop,” Mancow said, further confirming that torture does not produce reliable intelligence. “I don’t think drowning is harsh enough. … This is worse. This isn’t gulping for air. This is your brain is shut off.” Mancow said that despite the “horrific” event, Hannity called him afterwards to insist that waterboarding still isn’t torture:
MANCOW: First of all, Sean Hannity called me and said, “It’s still not torture.” I said, “Sean” — he is a friend of mine — “it is torture.” All right. But, look, you are giving 10,000 dollars to the Veterans of Valor.org. So I think you are stand-up guy for doing that.
“I felt the effects for two days. I had chest pains. I told my wife — I have two little kids. We prayed. I said, dear God, help me. I had chest pains. I was so stressed out by this,” Mancow said. Watch it:
Time and again, those who have dared to undergo waterboarding have said it is torture. Mancow, who initially scoffed at the tactic, explained to Olbermann: “Look, I see the video…the sprinkling of the water, big deal. … I was laughing at it. I was willing to prove and ready to prove that this was a joke. And I was wrong.”
Mancow laughed at waterboarding until he tried it himself. Hannity’s fact-free claim that waterboarding is “not torture” might carry more weight if he displayed the courage of Mancow.
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‘It’s Still Not Torture’, said Sean as he dabbbed some fresh pancake on his already perfect makeup.
Meanwhile, a voice from another room shouted out, “Olbermann on line 5, for you, Mr. Hannity, AGAIN…”. Sean just giggled as he admired himself in the mirror and replied, “Tell him I’m not in, AGAIN…”.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:04 amMancow is why Liz and dick have been absent from the airwaves lately.
Now that their claim that it isn’t torture has been proven false, he has admitted to authorizing and cheerleading for war crimes.
Cheney has no defense now.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:08 amHannity? Courage? BWWAAAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
May 27th, 2009 at 11:11 amAs time goes by, it becomes increasingly obvious that facts have very little to do in the right wing’s justifications for using torture. It’s all about FEAR FEAR FEAR and trying to maintain a hold on the psyche of America.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:13 amMancow: Hannity Called Me After I Was Waterboarded And Said, ‘It’s Still Not Torture”
– - Mancow cried “uncle” after 6 seconds of a controlled-waterboarding that was as safe as possible. So the obvious question is, if the US waterboarded the same detainee many dozens of times, and for longer than 6 seconds each time, within a one month period, just how tough are these detainees?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:17 amSo when is Hanniteabag going to play a little game of “water polo”?
PEACE
May 27th, 2009 at 11:18 am…
cue the troll who says they didn’t do it
right with the link to the classified document.
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yeah, that guy.
:)
May 27th, 2009 at 11:20 amThere are very few people that I know of that I despise more than that lying bastard Hannity.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:20 amLittle Seanie Vanity will never allow himself to be waterboarded. He doesn’t care for the idea . . . he would rather go on radio for three hours a day, repeat the same scurilous lies, whine, attack anyone who disagrees with him and parade around wrapped in the flag spouting his phoney patriotism and fake humility. In other words, he prefers to torture his listeners.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:20 amI used to listen to Mancow on Rock 103.5 and later Q101. His political beliefs started to become more and more prevalent later in the show and I think that’s part of why he was dropped by Q101. They cited something like “different audience” or something. There aren’t tons of young people listening to alternative music that also want to listen to Republican weirdness.
That said, I’m glad he had some balls and did this. Not only did he do it, he admitted he was totally wrong about it and is willing to appear on national TV to say so. I might disagree with a lot of his viewpoints, but at least he is reachable and willing to stand up for those viewpoints and challenge them.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:24 amHannitea is a wuss to the Nth degree.
He’s a pretty boy who has about the same class & resume as the Bloated One. College dropout, sub-intelligent and scared of his own shadow. His message, like Rove & Rush, is to initiate FEAR.
Ironic, eh?
I missed Jesse Ventura offering to waterboard Hannitea. That must have been priceless.
In fairness to Mancow, the Marine pouring water told him he’d go on the count of 5, but began at 2 or 3. That didn’t allow Mancow to take a deep breath and, perhaps, last for 30 seconds.
The media should join the fray on Hannitea. Show America that waterboarding isn’t torture, Sean.
Are we not men?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:25 amFINALLY a conservative with morals and guts!!!! Now if all the other warmongering ones would just go over to Iraq and go on patrol with some GIs, we’d have some more truth tellers!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:27 amAnd, Zimzone, since when would an interrogator tell his subject he could take a deep breath?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:29 amSo with Mancow thing the question of waterboard as torture is basicly over, and the right wing lost the arguement. The question of closing Gitmo is over, because General Patreus spokeup in favor of closing it. Two big losses for the right this week. They right has also lost the battle over the Supreme Court pick.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:30 amKudos to Mr. Muller for doing what multitudes of GOPers and conservatives will never do! …..and that is investigating the facts for himself and then coming to a conclusion based on his own investigation and thinking; rather than regurgitating what he is told or what he blindly believes sans fact.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:31 amWell, what did ManCow expect? Guys like Hannity still think the Earth is 6,000 years old and flat. They don’t believe in Global Warming and they swear Obama is a Fascist Socialist.(???)
May 27th, 2009 at 11:32 amFirst off, let me say I am not a fan of ManCow, ever since his morning show fabricated “guests” in the mid 90’s, like the satanic worshiper who ate babies.
Then he went Libertarian, which basically meant anti-Democrat.
He still spouts on his show of a Muslim agenda by PRESIDENT Obama.
That being said, he does get my respect for putting up and not shutting up (Yeah, I’m talking to you InSannity!).
May 27th, 2009 at 11:32 amHe went in to disprove water boarding as torture, and was prepared to debunk it. It was a controlled environment (although I give kudos to the Marine who said “Get ready on the count of 5. 1, 2…I LIED”) and ManCow couldn’t last even 10 seconds.
Let’s not forget, during that TORTUROUS 6 seconds, at least 2 of those seconds the water was not even being poured directly into his mouth.
His description of the pain was spot on.
Now, imagine this being done 168 times to ONE individual.
And what pertinent information of an immediate threat did we receive?
WMD in Iraq?
Hannity is a wimp. He will not be able to do chicken dance also. hats off to keith for honouring his promise to donate to charity. In fact this was the best opportunity for Hannity to bankrupt Keith aka a liberal, but he missed on that. No words to describe Mancow’s heroism in debunking the myth of waterboarding is not torture. He is the real hero and as someone commented here earlier, looks like he has pushed darth and liz from the airwaves.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:35 am“I felt the effects for two days. I had chest pains. I told my wife — I have two little kids. We prayed. I said, dear God, help me. I had chest pains. I was so stressed out by this,” Mancow said.
Hurt, didn’t it Mancow?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:37 amAnd that was only from 6 seconds of it, because they didn’t hold you down to keep you from coming off the board.
Anyone that went through SERE could have told you its no leisure bath.
Mancow ended the Liz n Dick show by destroying their “it’s not torture” defense.
That in itself is a heroic act.
Mancow proves waterboarding IS torture
May 27th, 2009 at 11:40 amCheney bragged about waterboarding
Cheney bragged about torture
Torture is a war crime
Cheney bragged about war crimes
Hannity is a Republican and we all know that Republicans DO NOT EVER admit to being wrong. Sean knows that if he were to agree to be waterboarded he wouldn’t even last six seconds before crying for his mommy and he doesn’t want FOX viewers to see him wet his pants on live tv. Poor scared little boy, his boastful mouth got ahead of him as usual but we aren’t going to let him off the hook so easy on this one.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:41 amI love how right-wing regressives get caught up in debates about things science has decided long ago, like human evolution, or global climate change, or approximately how old the Earth is, or whether water-boarding is a form of torture.
When they finally come into reality with the rest of us, we praise them like little children who finally made their bed like the big kids.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:42 amThat’s what happens when you are too intellectually lazy to examine what you’re told.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:45 amAn easy way to make pro-torture people look foolish on this issue is to ask them if our pilots captured by Saddam in the first Gulf War hated America. Also ask if the Vietnam vets being tortured in the Hanoi Hilton hated America. After all, these were men who were subjected to torture who then confessed to hating the United States. They called themselves and their fellow soldiers war criminals and “air pirates” after torture. Do you REALLY think they believed ANY of that? Of course not. They were just saying anything to make the torture stop, even if they had to make anti-American propaganda. That alone shows how meaningless torture “confessions” are.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:47 amAnyone think Mancow will use this lesson and learn to examine other issues deeply enough to realize that the right wingers he idolizes are perpetual liars?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:47 amBetween ManCow and Jesse Ventura, the GOPers pretty much lost the argument. Don’t you find it odd after all Dick Chaney and his daughter tried to present their side of the story, ManCow and Ventura, the only ones who really know what they are talking about, slam the process and Dick and Liz are no longer in the spotlight?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:48 amThe Dick and Liz show is over now that they can no longer claim he didn’t order torture.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:50 amRantingTommy Says:
Anyone think Mancow will use this lesson and learn to examine other issues deeply enough to realize that the right wingers he idolizes are perpetual liars?
Not me.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 amWaltB Says:
And, Zimzone, since when would an interrogator tell his subject he could take a deep breath?
That was my point, Walt. Maybe I didn’t say that well. Mancow was SURE he could last 30 seconds, because he thought he could ‘cheat’.
The Marine made sure he didn’t get the chance.
And, as Wayne noted above, Mancow wasn’t restrained on the board.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:53 amTo those who say it’s not torture, we can just do it to them until they say it is torture. Therefore, no one can disagree. So if it’s “effective,” then it must also be torture. Anything you can do to someone that will make them say or do anything you want, is torture. It would only not be torture if it didn’t work, and if it didn’t work, then why were we doing it to detainees?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:54 amLet’s sweeten the deal for Hannity…
SHannitty,
Here’s the deal. The readers of ThinkProgress will match
Keith O’s donations dollar-for-dollar. So you can
double your donations to your favorite charity!
And that’s not all! Every 5th waterboarding for you
means that we match it 2 dollars for every dollar that
Keith O donates.
Step up to the plate, you chickenshit!
May 27th, 2009 at 11:55 amRantingTommy Says:
Anyone think Mancow will use this lesson and learn to examine other issues deeply enough to realize that the right wingers he idolizes are perpetual liars?
heh, not a f_cking chance.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:57 amFunny though, when the govt and parents lie to their kids to scare them away from smoking pot and the kids figure out they were lied to about pot, most of them tend to think “hmm, maybe they lied to me about heroin and meth, too” – which makes lying to them about pot extremely dangerous.
But a right winger will accept being lied to over and over about a multitude of issues and never learn to question the source.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:01 pmHere’s the deal. The readers of ThinkProgress will match
Keith O’s donations dollar-for-dollar. So you can
double your donations to your favorite charity!
And that’s not all! Every 5th waterboarding for you
means that we match it 2 dollars for every dollar that
Keith O donates.
One caveat though, SHannITTY. If you soil your pants before
May 27th, 2009 at 12:02 pmyou are waterboarded, the deal is off! Fair enough?!
It is revelaatory, though, that Hannity would call up a fellow conservative and tell him that his (Hannity’s) jusgment is superior to the person who had just gone through the actual experience.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:04 pmTo his face. Someone on the same side of the fence.
That’s one seriously disturbed toon.
This story made my day. Nobody got hurt. Nobody got killed. And the Truth was revealed.
And, most important of all, it is pure comedy GOLD, baby!
ha ha
May 27th, 2009 at 12:04 pmI think Hannity turned down Olbermann’s offer because Keith offered to pay the charity, and not give the money directly to Sean.
I know Sean has lots of cash, but he is one greedy little bastard.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:05 pmThe thing I immensely enjoyed on Countdown last night was the fact that Mancow did not detract from the subject. This was torture. This was worse than drowning. Had this been a pundit, they would have probably tried to spin the waterboarding they received and used the time to attack other principles, but Mancow was a stand-up guy and put the facts of his experience on the table.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:06 pmwhirlaway Says:
Let’s sweeten the deal for Hannity…
SHannitty,
Here’s the deal. The readers of ThinkProgress will match
Keith O’s donations dollar-for-dollar. So you can
double your donations to your favorite charity!
And that’s not all! Every 5th waterboarding for you
means that we match it 2 dollars for every dollar that
Keith O donates.
Step up to the plate, you chickenshit!
Only he doesn’t get a safety cow. He gets restrained, so he doesn’t come off the board either.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pmHe can try to say his chosen safety word, after the water stops pouring from the first round, heh.
And that’s different than any other day for Mancow how, exactly … ?
I’m glad the guy did it, and glad he’s trying to convince Hannity that it is, in fact, torture. I don’t think it’ll work, but kudos to the guy for trying.
But Mancow is still a complete and utter tool who wants to be the conservative Howard Stern (but has failed) and just did this to get noticed.
Simply put, the credit he is getting for this stunt doesn’t erase his years of weapons-grade stupid. Kudos, but keep trying, pal.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pmRantingTommy sed:
“But a right winger will accept being lied to over and over about a multitude of issues and never learn to question the source.”
This is a serious question. Obviously, Mancow HAS learned, and learned that he was wrong. He is the exception, or otherwise this wouldn’t even be a story.
I think it’s something different: These people have a genetic disposition or an over-learned response to never, ever, ever admit they were ever, ever wrong.
That sounds more like it.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pmPurple State sed:
“…Mancow was a stand-up guy and put the facts of his experience on the table.”
Absolutely. As a reality-based moderate liberal, I will give credit wherever credit is due.
Purple State, it’s very likely that you have never been waterboarded; I know I have never been waterboarded.
But Mancow has–and I accept his version of what happened. And I will never accept anyone’s version who HASN’T been waterboarded–such as Dick Cheney, Bush, Abu Gonzales, Rush, etc.
Every day I take a saline solution up the nose, four times a day. It’s great; it’s the cure for me, for my sinus problems I’ve dealt with all my life. Once in a while, though, I’ve forgotten to add the saline to the water, or the water wasn’t heated to 98 degrees, or something else was incorrect.
And when it goes up your nose, that sh*t is awful. I know that much.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:12 pmIt is torture, Hannity is a scumbag, reichwing, propaganda spreading, chickenshit.
And I have to give props to Mancow for manning up and giving it a go and then admitting that it is torture.
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
May 27th, 2009 at 12:12 pmOnce again, Seanie Vanity’s mouth has written a check that his wimpy little self can’t cash. No surprise there. He does that 50 times every day on his rant-fest.
This one is different, though, because it has exposed him as the chicken-sh!t he is. As others have said here, he must not be let off the hook on this. I say everyone here should email him at hannity@foxnews.com and demand that he make good on his promise. Tell him he should agree to be waterboarded at every one of his “Freedom Concerts” this year. Ollie North will be there and he’s an expert at the technique. What a great opportunity!
Maybe he could even convince Limpballs, Wiener-Savage and that little p!issant, Levin, to join him.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pmDaddy-O Says:
Absolutely. As a reality-based moderate liberal, I will give credit wherever credit is due.
Purple State, it’s very likely that you have never been waterboarded; I know I have never been waterboarded.
But Mancow has–and I accept his version of what happened. And I will never accept anyone’s version who HASN’T been waterboarded–such as Dick Cheney, Bush, Abu Gonzales, Rush, etc.
And this is where people need to understand that pundits are not the say-all be-all when it comes to racism, gay rights, etc. Unless you have experience or direct contact with these matters, you should have no say on what is right. Only having one view of things is narrow-minded and a horrible way to prove one’s point.
I do stress the above statement, as sometimes we here can be very narrow-minded as well. We need as many sides to an argument as possible with factual evidence and experience, not just hearsay or proof through the last episode of “24″.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pmobamawipe$ Says:
LOL! I just watched the video, what a freakin pansy mancow is! All this was is a sad and pathetic publicity stunt from a failed at every thing he’s ever tried shock jock and you loons drank it up like good little koolaid drinkers.
You think you can do what Mancow did? Belly up to the bar and give it a shot.
May 27th, 2009 at 12:38 pmobamawipe$ Says:
LOL! I just watched the video, what a freakin pansy mancow is! All this was is a sad and pathetic publicity stunt from a failed at every thing he’s ever tried shock jock and you loons drank it up like good little koolaid drinkers.
So how long will you last on your try at the board troll?
We can make it last as long as is needed to make you confess to being Osama bin Forgotten’s bath boy.
You have the guts mancow did to put your money where your mouth is?
May 27th, 2009 at 12:39 pmGuess the troll had to run off to go pee.
lol
May 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pmoilforillegals Says:
‘man’cow=pu$$y…at least he proved waterboarding works…..6 seconds..ROFL;)
Why no hit piece on jonathan turdly smearing the judge nominee?
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all the qualities of a dog
except loyalty.
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May 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pmShorter Hannity: I aint askeered!
May 27th, 2009 at 1:07 pmI thought it was fascinating how “Mancow” kept trying to take control of the segment from Keith.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:08 pmwayne@52-
“Guess the troll had to run and pee…” Sitting down, with his skirt up around his waste.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:09 pmHANNITY:
” Even if this thing shuts your brain, still does not make it ‘torture’.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pmThat’s what we have been doing for so many years here at Fox to our loyal viewers.” !!!
Once again it’s been proven, The Truth has a Liberal Bias!
Oh, how the right must hate to look in a mirror about this Torture issue.
I seriously thought there was going to be some high level spontaneous combustion going on this weekend. First the Mancow incident then the program on cable called “Link” proving Darwin’s theory.
Fascinating!
May 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pmPurple State: And this is where people need to understand that pundits are not the say-all be-all when it comes to racism, gay rights, etc. Unless you have experience or direct contact with these matters, you should have no say on what is right. Only having one view of things is narrow-minded and a horrible way to prove one’s point.
Sheepdog says: Thankyou Lavender boy. Since 99.9% don’t have any experience on the matter, PLEASE SHUT THE F#$K UP ALREADY! You have absolutely no respect for your enemy as a practiced killer, full of piss and vinegar that carries him thru. He is a warrior who looks forward to being challenged by his enemy and you want to compare MANCOW’s experience. You sheep will fall for any stunt!
May 27th, 2009 at 1:42 pmUh… I’m not falling for your stunt, Sheepdog.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:50 pmBovine, you stupid trolling shit.
I will take up the Keith Olbermann challenge and offer the same $1,000 to the charity of your choice for every second you last under waterboarding.
I will personally deliver the check to your milking horses ranch operation.
The check is ready, Mr. Jeffy M. Bovine torture apologist.
May 27th, 2009 at 1:58 pmSomeone get the mop
Sheepdog peed on the floor again out of fear
May 27th, 2009 at 1:59 pmWayne Says:
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“I felt the effects for two days. I had chest pains. I told my wife — I have two little kids. We prayed. I said, dear God, help me. I had chest pains. I was so stressed out by this,” Mancow said.
Hurt, didn’t it Mancow?
And that was only from 6 seconds of it, because they didn’t hold you down to keep you from coming off the board.
Anyone that went through SERE could have told you its no leisure bath.
That shit does hurt, I told my daughter before she went that its no joke, and she will tell you that she still gets nervous when water hits her face in the shower.
RIP
May 27th, 2009 at 2:01 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
obamarule$ Says:
LOL! I just watched the video, what a freakin pansy mancow is! All this was is a sad and pathetic publicity stunt from a failed at every thing he’s ever tried shock jock and you loons drank it up like good little koolaid drinkers.
English language, people!
May 27th, 2009 at 2:05 pmEnglish language!
Peeshgod says: Thankyou Lavender boy. Since 99.9% don’t have any experience on the matter, PLEASE SHUT THE F#$K UP ALREADY! You have absolutely no respect for your enemy as a practiced killer, full of piss and vinegar that carries him thru. He is a warrior who looks forward to being challenged by his enemy and you want to compare MANCOW’s experience. You sheep will fall for any stunt!
DRxJapanese Beetle Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 2:07 pmWTF is Peeshgod posting?
Shepdog, you’re trying to make this about toughness. Next you’ll be stealing somebody’s military record to establish your cred.
this is about whether waterboarding is torture or not.
For months–years now, Republican apologists have been sneering at the technique, saying it’s just splashing water on the face. Now, one of your own has actually tried it, and says it’s absolutely torture.
So you throw him under the bus, call him (anonymously, on the Internets!) a wuss, and come up with the dazzling argument that we have to torture them because they’re dedicated steely-eyed Sardaukar!
Yeah, they wouldn’t react like that! they, the practiced killers, wouldn’t…
…wouldn’t…
…did you realize you’ve ended up arguing against waterboarding’s effectiveness? That these Dorsai ninjas would just laugh, I say, laugh at such techniques?
All that military master baiting is bad for your thought processes, Sheep.
May 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pmSheepdog says: Thankyou Lavender boy. Since 99.9% don’t have any experience on the matter, PLEASE SHUT THE F#$K UP ALREADY! You have absolutely no respect for your enemy as a practiced killer, full of piss and vinegar that carries him thru. He is a warrior who looks forward to being challenged by his enemy and you want to compare MANCOW’s experience. You sheep will fall for any stunt!
Well I as well as my Soldiers, and my Daughter (Air Force Pilot) do, and WE will tell you that its torture, so now you can go sit down and be quiet Sir/Ma’am.
RIP
May 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Tired of Fighting, what does your daughter fly or fly in? And who was SGT Sherman? My sympathys for him.
May 27th, 2009 at 2:28 pmSheepdog Says:
You have absolutely no respect for your enemy as a practiced killer, full of piss and vinegar that carries him thru. He is a warrior who looks forward to being challenged by his enemy…
I also hear they’re ten feet tall and have laser eyes. Seriously, come out from under your bed and quit soiling yourself, ya whiny little coward.
May 27th, 2009 at 2:30 pmTired of Fighting, cross commo. Yes, I KNOW the women have it way harder in SERE-C. I also know that there is a particular reason to keep this drumbeat going on waterboarding. This sort of interogation has not been an ongoing practice and all you see in the “THINK PROGRESS” bubble is this issue being replayed. This is more the “Think Constipated” website!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pmLavender Boy. Huh.
Welp, time for me to change my name then. I’m officially “Lavender Boy”. I guess this is what the Republicans had in mind when they wanted to make the Dems the “Democrat Socialist Party”.
Sheepdog, since you seem to be the voice of reason, can you tell us about your experience?
May 27th, 2009 at 2:39 pmpbeeg says: one of your own has actually tried it, and says it’s absolutely torture.
Yeah you’re right, when I had my sheepdog radio program he and I use to compete for sponsors and advertisements all the time. It was amazing but this last stunt went to far and I told him to stop trying this in the bathtub by himself. Oh well!
May 27th, 2009 at 2:45 pmPurple state, see post 73. I was a DJ for Sheepdog radio. We talked about Wolves, Sheepdogs, and Sheep all the time.
May 27th, 2009 at 2:49 pmOkay, seriously. WTF is Peeshgod even posting???
May 27th, 2009 at 2:50 pmTired of fighting, I would respectfully like you to not mention your daughters status anymore. Don’t put her name anywhere or on anything until she’s hung up the bag, out of theatre, discharged or retired. You would be amazed at what the enemy can get on you via the internet etc.
May 27th, 2009 at 2:54 pmScarab/Dung Beetle says: Okay, seriously. WTF is Peeshgod even posting???
Don’t worry about it. I’ve basically laid out alot of PSA’s to your dumb asses but you all seem to know better about what’s really going on in the world!!!!!!!
May 27th, 2009 at 2:57 pmSheepdog Says:
Tired of fighting, I would respectfully like you to not mention your daughters status anymore. Don’t put her name anywhere or on anything until she’s hung up the bag, out of theatre, discharged or retired. You would be amazed at what the enemy can get on you via the internet etc.
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roger that.
but your px-90’s
are your best bet for
a mass/swarm attack.
and for god’s sake remember to
remove the safety, ok?
lucky bravo out.
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May 27th, 2009 at 2:59 pmSheepdog Says:
Scarab/Dung Beetle says: Okay, seriously. WTF is Peeshgod even posting???
Don’t worry about it. I’ve basically laid out alot of PSA’s to your dumb asses but you all seem to know better about what’s really going on in the world!!!!!!!
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roger that.
garbled transmission.
please repeat.
lucky bravo out.
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May 27th, 2009 at 3:01 pmI was talking more about waterboarding not shock radio, but whatever.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:02 pmRHF says:
P*ssy Sh*the*d A$$h*le comments are the ONLY PSA’s you know anything about, little COWARD.
I smell fear your bigness!!
May 27th, 2009 at 3:04 pmOh. I see. We’re playing pretend commandos, and peeshgod is our leader.
Got it.
SGT Peeshgod, what’s our ETA for Operation WaterFacial?
May 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pmSheepdog Says:
RHF says:
P*ssy Sh*the*d A$$h*le comments are the ONLY PSA’s you know anything about, little COWARD.
I smell fear your bigness!!
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army tactical ranger manual:
“Smell is an important sense.”
lucky bravo out.
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May 27th, 2009 at 3:10 pmDung Beetle Says:
Oh. I see. We’re playing pretend commandos, and peeshgod is our leader.
Got it.
SGT Peeshgod, what’s our ETA for Operation WaterFacial?
SHEEPDOG SAYS: The WARNO was given a while ago to stop them, because people like yourself see it as torture. HeeHee! Go back to your Dung now!
May 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pmSheepdog Says:
Dung Beetle Says:
Oh. I see. We’re playing pretend commandos, and peeshgod is our leader.
Got it.
SGT Peeshgod, what’s our ETA for Operation WaterFacial?
SHEEPDOG SAYS: The WARNO was given a while ago to stop them, because people like yourself see it as torture. HeeHee! Go back to your Dung now!
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do you have a vis-ref on dung?
over.
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May 27th, 2009 at 3:16 pm….
s-dog come back,
over.
;;;
May 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pmJoe, that would be a big 10-4. Whenever the Camel train passes, new homes for Dung Beetle and his friends are dropping all over the place. HeeHee!
May 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pmSheepdog Says:
Joe, that would be a big 10-4. Whenever the Camel train passes, new homes for Dung Beetle and his friends are dropping all over the place. HeeHee!
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s-dog can the girly laugh.
act like a soldier.
luck bravo out.
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May 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pmHey, DeepShog, is this you?
Because, ew.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pmHAHAHAHA! JOE. Go git you another bellywasher and keep your grape covered. Sheepdog over and out!
May 27th, 2009 at 3:25 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
There are various ways to waterboard that are as different as apples and oranges. Those methods that result in water being poured directly into the breathing channel (i.e. down the nose or into the mouth) are generally viewed as torture. That is what was done to Mancow as you can clearly see in the video as water was poured up his nose and into his mouth which were left uncovered.
Those methods that follow Judge Bybee’s guidelines do not include pouring water directly into the breathing channel. Rather, a wet cloth covers both the nose and mouth in order to prevent water from pouring directly into the breathing channel. “The individual does not breathe any water into his lungs.” The Bybee approved method is thus very different than what was done to Mancow. Apples and oranges.
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(comment #7)
you’re late.
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May 27th, 2009 at 3:30 pm***
cfp,
can’t seem to find anyone
in the blogosphere who would
second your opinion can you?
maybe if you e-mailed judge bybee.
:)
if you really care, you’ll give it a try.
:)
:)
May 27th, 2009 at 3:34 pmWhy are the trolls who come to this site so staggeringly STUPID. Oilyidiot, Sheepledog, ConservativePUNK. They are morons. Too stupid to be beleived. I am shocked they havent died from forgetting to breathe. ConPunk. I have several times posted the DESCRIPTION of what they Japanese officers who were sent to prison did and it is EXACTLY the same as the waterboarding WE are doing. Just stop embarassing yourself by repeating long ago debunked idiocy over and over in the vain hope your repitition will magically make it true. We TORTURED people. We tortured them WITH waterboarding and by other means. We also sent INNOCENT people to BE tortured. You dont care. It means nothing to you. Do you morons check your souls at the door or just rid yourselves of them as an impediment. None of you have any honor whatsoever. You do what is RIGHT. You cowardly PUNKS have replaced THAT with whats in it for ME? The real tradgedy is you are so stupid you have no idea how much you have diminshed yourselves by doing so.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:37 pm>>>
sean hannity says:
“Those methods that follow Judge Bybee’s guidelines do not include pouring water directly into the breathing channel. Rather, a wet cloth covers both the nose and mouth in order to prevent water from pouring directly into the breathing channel. “The individual does not breathe any water into his lungs.” The Bybee approved method is thus very different than what was done to Mancow. Apples and oranges.”
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oh wait. that’s not sean hannity.
that’s was cfp. why isn’t sean
hannity saying the same thing?
what gives?
cfp?
:)
May 27th, 2009 at 3:38 pm25. BrianFL.
I agree. Just for info purposes–
14th Amendment Section 3
“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state Legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each house, remove such disability.”
May 27th, 2009 at 3:48 pmSen. John McCain was a prisoner inside the “Hanoi Hilton” during his time in Vietnam. He also admitted that he was “tortured” into saying terrible things about his Country, which would be considered giving “aid and comfort to the enemy.”
I don’t know if he had to get 2/3’s vote to be exonerated or not, because HE WAS TORTURED.
He didn’t mean to say those things, he was tortured.
If you “torture” an inmate or prisoner, the testimony given by said inmate or prisoner is inadmissible in a court of Law.
That is one of the biggest problems that the previous administration handed the Obama Administration. What to do with the 100’s of alleged terrorists who have been tortured in the last 7 years, but can’t be charged due to over-zealous interrogation techniques, but also are now too pissed-off at the U.S. of A. to allow them to go free!
Everybody that warned Bush/Cheney that this would happen was labeled anti-American back in the day, but as Rev. Wright put it “the chickens have come home to roost.”
ConservativeForProgress:
May 27th, 2009 at 3:50 pmWhere do you draw your expertise on this topic? Most qualified interogators I have read disagree with the value of this sort of thing. I would be interested in seeing you cite some qualified sources. Perhaps you have seen the Georgetown teams work….
only cowards support torture
enough said
May 27th, 2009 at 3:56 pmSheepdog Says:
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Tired of Fighting, what does your daughter fly or fly in? And who was SGT Sherman? My sympathys for him.
She flys C-17’s, barely in her twenties, and I am so proud. SGT Sherman was my Soldier, my Brother, and My Friend, and I miss him dearly, thank you for your condolences.
RIP
May 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
C4P:
The Bybee approved method is thus very different than what was done to Mancow. Apples and oranges.
And the tapes prove it. Oops, they destroyed those, didn’t they?
The detainees were restrained, Mancow was not. Yet he claims it is torture… You’re a torture apologist. Why not just admit it?
May 27th, 2009 at 4:38 pmbarfly Says:
C4P:
The Bybee approved method is thus very different than what was done to Mancow. Apples and oranges.
And the tapes prove it. Oops, they destroyed those, didn’t they?
The detainees were restrained, Mancow was not. Yet he claims it is torture… You’re a torture apologist. Why not just admit it?
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do the math.
c4p ? truth.
c4p = tom tancredo.
:)
May 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pm…
of course the bybee’s opinion
came before the actual events.
;|
want to repeat yourself
c4p or is it time for your nap?
:)
May 27th, 2009 at 5:07 pmSheepdog Says:
HAHAHAHA! JOE. Go git you another bellywasher and keep your grape covered. Sheepdog over and out!
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s-dog there’s piss in the boots
and men at the trigger,
which one are you?
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come back.
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May 27th, 2009 at 5:10 pmTired of fighting, again my condolences about your brother. Please consider my suggestion on keeping your daughter safe.
JOE, sheepdog is my handle for a reason.
May 27th, 2009 at 8:29 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
This guy is now your star witness?
Yes.
He’s extra-credible because he’s a wingnut. He has no ideological reason whatsoever to lie on our behalf. Quite the opposite, in fact.
May 27th, 2009 at 8:32 pmSheepdog Says:
Tired of fighting, again my condolences about your brother. Please consider my suggestion on keeping your daughter safe.
JOE, sheepdog is my handle for a reason.
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good.
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May 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pmGo to hell, sesli. Nobody wants your porn spam.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:06 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
The video of the waterboarding of Muller, however, shows that water was poured directly “down [his] nose”[22] and down his throat, which is not a method approved by the Judge Bybee memo on waterboarding, [...]“
Right, because -as we all know- torturers everywhere are rather meticulous at following the instructions as written by a judge thousands of miles away.
Not to mention that Muller didn’t breathe the water either -something that was lost on you and on whoever wrote that entry in the Wikipedia.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:24 pmHow about TP gets a fund raiser together for our troops family`s. I live in PA, I would think that they could get permits to have a waterboarding fundraiser. I honestly believe that WB is torture. Theres alot of wingnuts that disagree. So lets put it to the test. I will volunteer to be the first, i think i can last for 2 seconds. So will you wingnuts go after i go? I already said its torture but im willing to go through it to watch the non belivers do it and then tell us its not torture. Think of the money that could be raised for our troops family`s. These men and women sacrafice their lives for us. Surely you wingnuts can have some water poured on your face for charity. Either that or stop listening to that fat fck limpdick and that coward Hannity and admit its torture.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:38 pmI agree that waterboarding was torture. I am also totally ok with it.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pmtiminfl Says:
I agree that waterboarding was torture. I am also totally ok with it.
1. That argument won’t hold up in an international court of law.
2. That argument would be completely reversed if you were the one waterboarded.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:42 amtiminfl Says:
I agree that waterboarding was torture. I am also totally ok with it.
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switch to viagra.
it will do the same thing for you
and nobody gets hurt.
:)
May 28th, 2009 at 10:32 amtiminfl
Well, at least you’ve established without reservation that you’re a bastard. That’s way more than can be said about these other cowards.
May 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pmThree pansy assed terrorists got waterboarded. Three. BFD I’m pissed they didn’t waterboard them all. They said they’d talk after they saw a lawyer, what 3 months later? BS Waterboard them and they’ll talk now. They’re terrorists, not POW girlscouts and not US Citizens. Handwringing whackos worried about what the French think of our interrogation techniques? Unfukkingbelievable
May 29th, 2009 at 2:03 amtom Says:
Once again, Seanie Vanity’s mouth has written a check that his wimpy little self can’t cash. No surprise there. He does that 50 times every day on his rant-fest.
This one is different, though, because it has exposed him as the chicken-sh!t he is. As others have said here, he must not be let off the hook on this. I say everyone here should email him at hannity@foxnews.com and demand that he make good on his promise. Tell him he should agree to be waterboarded at every one of his “Freedom Concerts” this year. Ollie North will be there and he’s an expert at the technique. What a great opportunity!
Well I thought I would sweeten the offer in my own little way . . . by pledging to change my political party affiliation to Republican. I figure they need all the members they can get! Here’s what I sent Sean . .
May 30th, 2009 at 2:13 am