Rove likens Sotomayor to ‘sort of a schoolmarm.’
Rove likens Sotomayor to ‘sort of a schoolmarm.’
Karl Rove has made clear that he doesn’t think Sonia Sotomayor is smart enough to be a justice on the Supreme Court. Last night on Fox News, Rove offered another demeaning and subtly-sexist putdown of Sotomayor. Rove complained to Greta Van Sustern that Sotomayor pays too much attention to grammar and claimed that she’s “sort of a schoolmarm”:
ROVE: When I was talking to people about the 2nd court of appeals — for example, look, as you know, justices circulate opinions and — to their colleagues to get their feedback and to act as, you know, sort of a prompt for discussions when they meet in chambers. Well — in conference, excuse me.
What she would do is she would mark them up like she was your English school teacher and — with your typos and misspellings and other words that she wanted to have changed and send it back to her colleagues. Not exactly the best way to ingratiate yourself with your colleagues. Rather than say, “Oh, I thought you had an interesting legal argument here and I’d like to talk to you more about this here,” she was acting like sort of a schoolmarm.
Watch it:
“You make me nervous about the times I correct people for grammatical errors. I’m not going to do it anymore,” host Greta Van Susteren later told Rove. But Rove clarified, saying his criticism only applies for “equals.” “You should. But if they’re colleagues, if they’re equals, I mean, be very careful about getting out your red pen and marking it up like you’re their English teacher,” he said.
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Who are these “people” who Rove was “talking to?” You know, people doing “news” used to have to confirm their sources once upon a time.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:24 pmIs that all you got?
May 27th, 2009 at 5:24 pmThen again I often liken Rove to a certain Ned Beatty character…
May 27th, 2009 at 5:26 pmRove would have us believe that attention to detail and knowledge of grammar are signs of a weak mind? Oh, that’s right, Bush is the great intellectual. If you can pronounce “nuclear” properly you are not to be trusted.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:26 pmThis coming from the political equivalent to Clayface from the Batman comics? Stones and glass Karl.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:30 pmUse only one “and” when you are listing things, Mr. Rove. Please see the English tutor after school.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:31 pmBig talk from a mope that has only a high school diploma. Rove is a liar, and an idiot. Giving these people airtime is a critical mistake. They can be driven from site by giving them no place to spread their expectorate
tedbohne
May 27th, 2009 at 5:32 pmIs it just me, or does anyone else get the giggles when someone from the Bush Administration questions someone’s intelligence?
May 27th, 2009 at 5:33 pmI hope when Sotomayor gets on the bench one of her first rulings would be to discriminate against bald headed, glasses wearing, big mouthed, right wingers!
May 27th, 2009 at 5:36 pmGood old Turdblossom – making schoolmarms everywhere look elitist.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:39 pm“Rather than say, “Oh, I thought you had an interesting legal argument here and I’d like to talk to you more about this here,” she was acting like sort of a schoolmarm.”
So Rove is saying, rather explicitly here, that Judge Sotomayor did NOT make comments about legal arguments and ONLY made comments on grammar.
I find that extremely unlikely.
But then, it IS Turdblossom.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:42 pmIt’s all about bashing the BROWN WOMEN.
The old, pasty, doughy, White male arm of the Re=THUG Party is peeing their panties in terror.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:43 pm*
“You make me nervous about the times I correct people for grammatical errors. I’m not going to do it anymore,” host Greta Van Susteren later told Rove.
Van Susteren bowing and scraping before Rove in abject fear? That visual induces projectile emesis if viewed by rational people….
Cheers,
May 27th, 2009 at 5:43 pmThe War Criminal and US traitor speaking and Dog Sh*#ing in Washington has the same meaning and weight…
May 27th, 2009 at 5:43 pmWell if “some people” were equals, and they were offended by the corrections, then they could have asked her to stop, couldn’t they?
May 27th, 2009 at 5:45 pmWasn’t he calling her dumb this morning? Now he’s defending all her colleagues being dumber than her…
May 27th, 2009 at 5:46 pmBut if they’re colleagues, if they’re equals, I mean, be very careful about getting out your red pen and marking it up like you’re their English teacher,” Rove said.
– - But Rove can’t make the analogy of Sotomayor being a cleaning woman. That label already fits Harriet Miers.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:49 pmMaybe you should shut your mouth while you’re behind, Karly.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:50 pmShe may be hearing your appeal someday.
And she’ll bring out the big, longass yardstick for your knuckles…
Rove has no business critiqing someone else’s language or linguistic style. He has a loose mouth and crude patterns.And his brain is frequently not connected to his mouth. As far as telling other people what to say and how to say it? If anyone should kow the ins and outs of that, it’s Turdblossom.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:52 pmNot exactly the best way to ingratiate yourself with your colleagues
– - Neither is leaving pubic hair on an open Coke can, right Justice Thomas?
May 27th, 2009 at 5:52 pmAs we know, Rove’s fear of schoolmarms is what caused him to barely finish high school before he launched his career as a political dirty tricks operative.
Fear the yardstick, pudgy! She may be sneaking up behind you while you’re picking your nose right NOW!
May 27th, 2009 at 5:56 pmWait; is Sotomayor criticized for being not too smart, or just too smart and knowledgeable?
And would the fact that she can accurately spell check anyone’s paper an indication of successful Hispanic assimilation, the very same thing reichwingers have told us doesn’t happen?
I am confused.
May 27th, 2009 at 5:57 pmWhat can the neocons possibly believe they’re accomplishing with all this nonsense, other than playing to the 20%ers? Could they imagine that they’ll re-energize the Republican Party by stupid remarks about whether she marked up someone’s arguments, or whether she’s “smart enough”, or whether she’s white enough?
May 27th, 2009 at 5:57 pmKKKarl wouldn’t know the actual, day-to-day proceedings of the common law firm if they crawled up his fat, pasty leg and bit him on the sack.
(look into “redlining”, you traitorous, feckless pile-of-shit)
May 27th, 2009 at 5:59 pmAwful nice of her to mark up potentially embarassing grammatical errors when reviewing her peers’ papers before publication, as they requested of her. Almost as if she was being helpful or something.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:00 pmIn other words, there’s no good reason to oppose her nomination. Pretty much repub opposition m.o.: factless accusations and petty insults.
I thought they’d be twisting some obscure case or article into proof that she kills babies for fun by now. All they have is people not smart enough to know saying she’s not smart enough and racists accusing her of racism based on her not being white.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pmJeez, that’s pretty weak. Is that all you got, Rove?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pmKarl’s fear of schoolmarm’s may also stem from his humiliating loss in his grade school hog calling contest at the yearly school fair.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pmTypical far dufus, when you got no grammar, jump on the typos. LUMB!
May 27th, 2009 at 6:05 pmWhy this unethical thug gets space on this and other boards I will never understand. It is a mystery like why he is not in prison. KKKarl is a college dropout and wouldn’t understand someone who graduated the top of her class at Princeton. This is the dirty crap he always has pulled. Attack the strength of someone and the mental midget morons of the republican party will follow him. Sad for them that they make up 28% of the populace.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:07 pmI don’t know about mouth-breathers, but I prefer my lawyers to be sticklers for accuracy and detail.
Without, you’re ripe for getting screwed.
GOPigs like getting fcuked, haven’t ya’ll noticed?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:07 pmobamawipe$
May 27th, 2009 at 6:08 pm—
So about that shit you made up about those dealerships? Silly shit. Are you a junkie?
Karl will never get over being beat up when he was just a little piggy by a female classmate.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:09 pmobamawipe$ Says:
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Typical far leftist, when you got no argument, jump on the typos. LOL!
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This is an example of the morons that KKKarl is talking to. The kind that doesn’t realize spelling and correctness matter in legal briefs and professional publications. Wingnuts will repeat the thug who never completed college and should be in prison like he is some sort of expert at something. Hell, even the Bush Crime Family got rid of KKKarl before the end of the term. KKKarl is a mental midget and a thug who will spend time in prison before his life is over.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:11 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Neither is leaving pubic hair on an open Coke can, right Justice Thomas?
Blue dress ring any bells, hack?
:)
May 27th, 2009 at 6:12 pmTypical far right dufus, when you got no comeback, go Clinton LOLROTFLMAOQWFRCLOLLOOLL
May 27th, 2009 at 6:13 pmRove– the ultimate white male sexist pig. Looks like a pig, too.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:14 pmKarl Rove, yes. He would know all about who is the smartest. Let’s see. Where did he graduate from college? Oh, yeah. He didn’t. The only knowledge this man has is how to wreak havok and how to get the most unqualified person in the history of our country into the presidency by cheating. His idea of smarts and mine are different, and yes — I did graduate from college — not that it guarantees intelligence. I will say that someone who graduated #1 from Princeton is probably a whole lot smarter than I am, and 100% smarter than Karl.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:14 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Blue dress ring any bells, hack?
I don’t know, put it back on and I’ll see if you look familiar.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:15 pmEEEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!!
I hope the troll at least kept his panties on, ElBruce.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:17 pmobamawipe$ Says:
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Hmm, disbarred, impeached…….
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Elections mattter. Your team lost the last two and you like all republicans are irrelevant. Learn to accept your role of insificant whiner and shut up until we call on you.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:17 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Jeez, that’s pretty weak. Is that all you got, Rove?
A better question would be, “Is that all you got, tp?”
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enough to keep you around,
isn’t it?
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ouch!
:)
May 27th, 2009 at 6:18 pm***
dude, c’mon
keep ‘em coming.
this is fun!
:)
May 27th, 2009 at 6:20 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Badmoodman Says:
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Not exactly the best way to ingratiate yourself with your colleagues
- – Neither is leaving pubic hair on an open Coke can, right Justice Thomas?
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Typical far right dufus, when you got no comeback, go Clinton LOLROTFLMAOQWFRCLOLLOOLL
ROFL!;)
:)
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May 27th, 2009 at 6:23 pmobamawipe$ Says:
With Olson and Boies teaming up to argue due process/14th amendment, the legal argument for gay marriage is a slam dunk. Huge development.about 7 hours ago from web
Shuster1600
David Shuster
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gently floating off topic.
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May 27th, 2009 at 6:24 pmThis bloviated sack of crap has exactly zero redeeming qualities. The world would be so much better off without this pig.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:27 pmThe Karl calling those who did better than him losers.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:31 pmThe same people who claim that grammar and spelling aren’t a big deal seem to be the same people who want English made the U.S.’s only legal language. Ridiculous hypocrites.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:31 pmHe didn’t wish death upon anyone, simply that Rove not be on this planet. Sounds like someone has serious reading comprehension problems.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:32 pmHey boywipe, you know that old saying. ” The good die young and pricks live forever”. Just saying…
May 27th, 2009 at 6:33 pmand the obamawipe declaring he is half right. Please, do wipe yourself well.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:33 pmI think we all liked you much better when you were OS.
Not so much typing involved in ridiculing you then.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:35 pmobamawipe$ Says:
joe canthink Says
Thanks for proving you’re not intelligent enough to see the liberal hypocrisy. LOL!
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would you like me to
help you tie your shoes too?
:)
May 27th, 2009 at 6:35 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Parse, much?
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oh twajie,
you really need to get some
new material.
:)
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May 27th, 2009 at 6:36 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
obamawipe$ Says:
Parse, much?
I think we all liked you much better when you were OS.
Not so much typing involved in ridiculing you then.
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ralph,
the party is shrinking,
and so is he.
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May 27th, 2009 at 6:39 pmA$$wipe you are an ignorant punkass troll and a walking colostomy bag. You are a pustulent seeping herpes sore on the butt of mankind. You are wrothelss and stupid and a waste of precious oxygen. Just go kill yourself. Nothing else someone as stupid as you can possibly do to make the world a better place
May 27th, 2009 at 6:40 pmWhoops, Karl, don’t go telling folks your old English teacher called you on being less than adequate. Your old school marm might have told you you were a nasty little pee pants?
May 27th, 2009 at 6:42 pmme? i’d want to know who those judges are who are writing opinions filled with “typos and misspellings and other words that she wanted to have changed” and pray i stayed out of THEIR courts…
May 27th, 2009 at 6:46 pmRove likens Sotomayor to ‘sort of a schoolmarm.’
Oh, come on, it’s obvious, isn’t it?
Rove’s hot for teacher…
He’d swoon, if only she’d correct him in the right place…
May 27th, 2009 at 6:53 pmI think we may be getting some insight into Karl’s school/women issues.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:57 pmWhat she would do is she would mark them up like she was your English school teacher and — with your typos and misspellings and other words that she wanted to have changed and send it back to her colleagues.
Not like those pastel crayon presidential daily briefings you had to prepare for Incurious George…
May 27th, 2009 at 6:59 pmI suppose the GOP probably isn’t strong with teachers anyway.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:59 pmWell I likens turd to a closeted, fat court jester without a ounce of integrity.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:12 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Typical far leftist. When you have no argument, you jump on the typos. LOL!
I’ll leave the “LOL” for now, since it’s proving a point. I give it a C-.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:12 pmchimpywipe$ Says:
Ahhh, the fun loving progressives wishing death, classy!
yeah you know classy. Actually siding with tortures and tens of thousands of deaths that chimpy admin has caused.
You are the last thing that should talk about being classy.
HAHAHAHAH
Keep it coming idiots…Judge Sotomayor will be on the bench before you teabaggers can suck a teabag.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:25 pmand i like to “liken rove to a piece of crap”. who heere agrees with me?
May 27th, 2009 at 7:26 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Parse, much?
That should be “Parse much?” The comma is inappropriate.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:29 pm…
i’m sorry mr. wipey,
please come back.
:(
May 27th, 2009 at 7:43 pmYou mean, kinda like this?
Oops. No wonder you guys work so hard at being irrelevant. it can be a real drag when people pay attention to your words and compare them with other stuff you’ve posted. Real embarrassing.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:52 pmRove, the University of Utah dropout, is only revealing his inferiority complex about those with a better education and those who actually absorbed most of their education.
May 27th, 2009 at 7:55 pmKarl Turd Blossom Rove dropped out of college in his sophomore year and never went back to complete his degree. I would liken him to a DROPOUT and LOSER.
May 27th, 2009 at 8:09 pmJ. Fred Smug – I agree. Rove=LOSER! Rove is the last lowlife thug on earth who should have anything to say about Sotomayor. He’s such a pathetic loser who just throws out whatever criticism that comes to his mind. Rove has nothing!
May 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pmUm. Doesn’t Karl realize that legal opinions have been thrown out because of typos and errors?
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May 27th, 2009 at 9:13 pmLet’s compare.
Rove is: Overweight. Balding. Rude. Mean. Near-sighted. Didn’t graduate from college.
A real catch.
I’ll take the marm, thank you.
(Notice how fast the Republicans resort to name calling. Their strategy is name calling! Pathetic.)
May 27th, 2009 at 9:28 pmpete Says:
Um. Doesn’t Karl realize that legal opinions have been thrown out because of typos and errors?
He might have been told that, but figured that deleting that portion would give him some leverage to criticize Sotomayor. In other words, he’s lying. That’s what he does. It’s great that he has to go to such lengths to come up with anything to criticize her with. This nomination is clearly a shoo-in.
But yeah, I would imagine that publishing a typo-ridden legal opinion would be pretty damaging, which is why they have their peers go over them first to begin with. If others weren’t noting typos as well as lines of reasoning, then they were merely being less thorough and helpful than she was.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:29 pmI must admit, ElBruce, I still find it difficult to tell where the stupid leaves off and the evil takes over.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:02 pmI also have a little experience with lawyers. When my Dad died he left a very clear, but several year-old, will. A couple of lawyers got to arguing about some “archaic” language and my brother ended up having to hire a third lawyer to force the first two to finally submit the will to the probate judge. He ruled that the will should be enforced, as written, in about five minutes.
That was in 2001 and I can guarantee that, had there been typos in the will, it would have been thrown out and the whole thing would still be in the courts.
And, of course, Herr Karl and his ilk hate anyone who actually shows an appreciation for the gravity of their office, like Ms. Sotomayor.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:15 pmpete Says:
I must admit, ElBruce, I still find it difficult to tell where the stupid leaves off and the evil takes over.
Doesn’t matter. Don’t even waste a moment thinking about it. That’s how they get you to hesitate long enough so they can escape. Once we’ve put all the White Devils to work in the slave mines of the new regime, that won’t be a problem anyways.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:25 pmDon’t worry, ElBruce. It’s just a trivial matter of curiosity, hardly worth any worry.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:34 pmWell I’m confused. I thought the good old by the books school “marm” was a figure to be respected. You know, back when men were men and the women and children knew their place. They got their lessons by rote and non-conformity and free thought were bad. It was hard enough for me to figure out how to be a facist-socialist, this disrespect for good old english grammer is more than I can process.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:39 pmpete:
May 27th, 2009 at 10:45 pmSeems I can’t go 24 hours without running into an oriole but indigo bunting still is a no show and I have only seen one tanager… Orchard oriole really pisses me off…
It’s all code for “uppity”.
May 27th, 2009 at 11:07 pmOutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts Says:
Well I’m confused. I thought the good old by the books school “marm” was a figure to be respected.
Actually, I would think that someone who could be characterized as a “schoolmarm” would be a perfect candidate for the SCOTUS. Isn’t that the sort of thing we want – someone bookish and detail-oriented?
May 27th, 2009 at 11:20 pmPoor Karl, reduced to arguing that bad grammar is good, but only among equals
May 27th, 2009 at 11:31 pmBut but but schoolmarms have that sexy Palin hairdo and glasses
May 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pmRE; #3.- dbadass:
Yes, He looks like Ned Beatty in Deliverance, but I suspect that Karl paid Jeff Gannon to make him ’squeal like a pig more than once. Life imitates art-
May 28th, 2009 at 12:29 amRE; #3.- dbadass:
Yes, He looks like Ned Beatty in Deliverance, but I suspect that Karl paid Jeff Gannon to make him ’squeal like a pig more than once. Life imitates art-
May 28th, 2009 at 12:29 amOne lib justice replacing another doesn’t change the make up of the court……it’s just Obama pandering to the hispanics to squelch their concerns about immigration……smart move since he knows he can’t really help them now because he’s got bigger fish to fry! Running banks, car companies, health care, radio, is a tough job! Even for a messiah!
May 28th, 2009 at 1:20 amI saved the following from the Dallas Morning News. It was excerpts from various college commencement speakers. This is what Harrie Miers, former White House counsel and Bush Supreme Court nominee, (vetted by Karl Rove) had to say at the Dallas Christian College commencement a few years ago:
“…When I first got to the White House I was told “Avoid at all costs typographical errors in the work you give the president.” When I asked “Why does the President care so much about a simple typographical error? the response was ‘[the President] worries that if you are careless in the little things, you’ll be careless in the big ones.”
May 28th, 2009 at 1:31 ammediaintl Says:
Even for a messiah!
Why do you wingnuts keep calling him that? Itching for an old-time crucifixion?
May 28th, 2009 at 2:03 amObermann nailed it. Harriet Miers?
May 28th, 2009 at 8:17 amLooks who’s talking to who. Rove the dork talking to school marm Greta. Karl needs to take a good look in the mirror before calling someone else names.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:19 amExcellent point. As if Rove suddenly had some sort of conversion to grammatical correctness.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:22 amIsn’t it funny how practicing what one is taught makes them a target. My daughter is half black half white and when she is around other AA’s they tease her about how she speaks telling her she does not sound ‘black’. When she was young I always corrected her when she mispronounce a word because I did not want her to be teased about not saying a word right.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:33 amSeems no matter what one does there is always someone who will attempt to challenge it.
The GOP at its prejudiced, misogynistic best.
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May 29th, 2009 at 6:31 amIs it too much to consider the possibility that President Obama nominated a Latina for Supreme Court justice because he sincerely wants the court to be representative of the U.S. population?
May 31st, 2009 at 7:24 pm