Barnes: Sotomayor ‘benefited’ from affirmative action ‘tremendously.’
Barnes: Sotomayor ‘benefited’ from affirmative action ‘tremendously.’
On MSNBC yesterday, Pat Buchanan repeatedly attacked Supreme Court nominee Judge Sonia Sotomayor as an “affirmative action candidate,” echoing right-wing claims that she has “been the recipient of preferential treatment for most of her life.” On Bill Bennett’s radio show this morning, Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes argued “that she’s one of those who has benefited from affirmative action over the years tremendously.” When Bennett noted that she graduated Summa Cum Laude from Princeton, which he called “a pretty big deal,” Barnes dismissed it, saying “I guess it is”:
BARNES: I think you can make the case that she’s one of those who has benefited from affirmative action over the years tremendously.
BENNETT: Yeah, well, maybe so. Did she get into Princeton on affirmative action, one wonders.
BARNES: One wonders.
BENNETT: Summa Cum Laude, I don’t think you get on affirmative action. I don’t know what her major was, but Summa Cum Laude’s a pretty big deal.
BARNES: I guess it is, but you know, there’s some schools and maybe Princeton’s not one of them, where if you don’t get Summa Cum Laude then or some kind of Cum Laude, you then, you’re a D+ student.
Listen here:
On Tuesday night, former Bush adviser Karl Rove said that despite her stellar academic credentials, Sotomayor was “not necessarily” smart. “I know lots of stupid people who went to Ivy League schools,” said Rove.
Transcript:
BENNETT: She does have an interesting life story.BARNES: She does have an interesting life story, but then so did Clarence Thomas. That didn’t seem to have much bearing on…
BENNETT: That’s exactly right.
BARNES: On the Supreme, on the Judiciary Committee. You know, 48 voted against him. So, that’s fine. But look, that’s, I mean, the life story shouldn’t make any difference. Remember the figure of justice is blind.
BENNETT: Yeah, exactly, that’s right.
BARNES: They’re not supposed to be ruling on the basis of their life experience, even when it sounds pretty great. I think you can make the case that she’s one of those who has benefited from affirmative action over the years tremendously.
BENNETT: Yeah, well, maybe so. Did she get into Princeton on affirmative action, one wonders.
BARNES: One wonders.
BENNETT: Summa Cum Laude, I don’t think you get on affirmative action. I don’t know what her major was, but Summa Cum Laude’s a pretty big deal.
BARNES: I guess it is, but you know, there’s some schools and maybe Princeton’s not one of them, where if you don’t get Summa Cum Laude then or some kind of Cum Laude, you then, you’re a D+ student.
BENNETT: That ain’t one of them, I know, because I’ve got two boys there and that’s the grade deflation thanks to your buddy and my buddy Robbie George. He started, he said they’re grading too high. Now this may have been before the grade deflation thing, but they’ve had a movement there at Princeton to cut those grades way down.
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Apparently graduating summa cum laude from Princeton is obtainable by the lowest educated folk. I swear every day the right makes me dislike them more and more.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:06 pmThese batsh*t crazy lunatics are just killing their party. If they want to accuse her of this let us talk about the favors the good old boys like W getting put into positions even after they fail because they are angry white bigots. Someone should take Fred Barnes and Bennett out behind the wood shed and give them an affirmative education.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:07 pmConservative argument: any minority who has achieved more success in life than them, it must be affirmative action.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pmBENNETT: Did she get into Princeton on affirmative action, one wonders.
BARNES: One wonders.
Might want to check what happened to the last guy to “wonder” about that:
Jeez people, check the intertubes before you mouth off next time.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pmRove said he knows lots of stupid peope who went to Ive League schools. Well, you cant argue with him on that one.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pmOh, the irony. Talking about stupid people and my post is filled with typos.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:09 pmMy goodness – these evil old coots refuse to give Judge Sotomayor credit for anything. I don’t care what these low lifes say about Sotomayor – her reputation and academic achievements speak for themselves. Affirmative Action will only take a person so far. It may help you get your foot in the door but it takes intelligence and determination to achieve success. Trolls don’t mess with me because I know what I’m talking about.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:11 pmMore old white guys wantin’ to get back to the ol’ days of white guys being in total control.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pmKKKarl Rove has that little undergraduate degree he never completed out here giving critiques on Supreme Court Judge education? This says a great deal about the wingnuts left in the GOP.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pmThis is all speculation. Maybe, one wonders, perhaps–phantom guesses towards the truth. Unfortunately, and both sides tend to be guilty of this, sometimes “may be” turns into “definitely is” along the way.
Can we stop assuming things? Let’s get the facts, ALL the facts, on things before jumping to conclusions. STOP GUESSING.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pmDid she get into Princeton due to some type of affirmative action / diversity program. Maybe she did. What difference does it make if she still had the grades in high school to qualify, which she obviously did.
What did she do after she got into Princeton? She made a lot of “A’s” in her classes.
From my experience in college, I found that the rich kids got better grades so their parents would donate money. The kids that didn’t come from money had a much harder time making good grades since daddy couldn’t buy them. GWB anyone?
May 28th, 2009 at 8:14 pmAny bets when the GNOP will buy the farm?
Each and every day, and with their media, they dig that grave deeper with their nonsense rhetoric.
If single payer gets more support the labored breathing will begin and plans for the funeral will be necessary.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:17 pmHow did W get into Harvard after University of Texas turned him down?
May 28th, 2009 at 8:17 pmkansinca – Pappy pulled some strings! ROTFL!
May 28th, 2009 at 8:21 pmYa know what, let’s just get rid of the Ivy League schools because if even graduating #2 in your class at the university that James Madison attended isn’t good enough to even be considered intelligent, then clearly no form of formal higher education is suitable.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:22 pmA QUESTION: Think Progress, did you happen to catch Joe Scarborough’s remarks this morning within the first half hour of his show? He said Senator Dick Durbin would have been the bus driver who sent Rosa ParkS to the back of the bus, because Durbin is refusing to campaign for Roland Burris if he runs in 2010. Nice huh?
May 28th, 2009 at 8:24 pmRove was a University of Utah and the University of Maryland, College Park , before dropping out ; Barnes graduated from the University of Virginia and was a Nieman Fellow at Harvard University.
Jealous much , GOP stooges ?
May 28th, 2009 at 8:24 pmYa almost have to give them style points on this one. They managed to smear her race/sex/intelligence/academic accomplishments all at the same time. And all the while reinforcing the Reichwing contempt for intellectualism in general.
Too bad they can’t hide the frantic fear in their words and actions. It, almost, makes me feel sorry for some of them. Almost.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:26 pmWingnuts are more pathetic each day. The party of William F. Buckley is now being run by Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Newt Gingrich, and Dick Cheeney. There is not enough intellect in that group to teach middle school history.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:30 pm“I know lots of stupid people who went to Ivy League schools,” said Rove.
His former boss, for one, I suppose, who got a gentlemans’/legacy degree from Yale (an Ivy, iirc)…
You reckon he named anmes?
May 28th, 2009 at 8:32 pmSonia was diagnosed with Type I diabetes at age eight.Sonia’s father died at age 42, in part from heart complications, when she was nine years old.Sotomayor commuted to the parochial Cardinal Spellman High School in the Bronx, where she was on the forensics team and was elected to the student government.
SHE GRADUATED AS VALEDICTORIAN in 1972.
That’s KICKING ASS , you GOP chumps , not “affirmative action”……….
May 28th, 2009 at 8:35 pmME: Are these guys a couple of d-bags or what, Mr. Jinks?
MY CAT: You could make that case.
ME: One wonders.
MY CAT: Yes,… one wonders.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:39 pmSorry OT but Jesse Venture is on Keith Olbermann! I totally like Jesse because he gave Hannity a verbal whipping!
Back OT ( :
Women like Sotomayor make me feel so much pride! I was born in the Bronx and I can identify with Sotomayor’s struggle. I admire her fierce determination to thrive in a “man’s world.”
May 28th, 2009 at 8:42 pmShe had to be fearless!
White folks “wonder” soooo much.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:43 pmCan you believe the nerve of these two snots pretending not to know the significance of summa cum laude from Princeton?
If any of the Bennett or Barnes children achieved this…
May 28th, 2009 at 8:45 pmBARNES: I guess it is, but you know, there’s some schools and maybe Princeton’s not one of them, where if you don’t get Summa Cum Laude then or some kind of Cum Laude, you then, you’re a D+ student.
What makes me think that Barnes “knows” this “fact” intimately? He’s a blithering eedjit….
Cheers,
May 28th, 2009 at 8:46 pmIf that’s the case, then affirmative action has worked well in this case. But, what they’re really saying is that she isn’t qualified, and she has a long career that clearly contradicts that.
Prattle on you mad dogs.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:50 pmWow, so the only way a Hispanic woman could be the top of her class is though affirmative action.
I.
Hate.
Them.
So.
Much.
(If she got in Princeton due some form of affirmative action it does not matter. She still had to prove herself, she still had to make the grades. Could NOT have graduated Summa Cum Laude without a brilliant mind. (and it annoys me that these questions only come up for minorities and women and never guys like Bush who got by on their family name and connections.) There is NOTHING wrong with the use of affirmative action to help get a foot in the door from women and minorities. )
Jesus, these white dudes are just freaking out at their loss of power.
I love it.
Keep talking azz holes, show the world what you really are.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:52 pm“Bizarre” is the only word, RHF. The remaining GOoPers all seem to have crossed the line from hypocrisy to schizophrenia.
May 28th, 2009 at 8:54 pmbut mention “legacy admissionas” like 43 at yale and see the cancervatives rally around it as “tradition”
May 28th, 2009 at 8:55 pmListening to Karl Rove, the man behind the dumbest administration in modern history, lecturing on how intelligent a person is, is like listening to Jack Abramoff giving a lecture on ethics.
He just has nothing to say here and no business saying it.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:06 pmits funny that “43″ actually had better grades than gore. Oh my, did i bring up a truth that is hard to deal with. too bad there is so much anger in these posts. its hard to have intelligent conversations when persons are attacked if their view is not the prevalent one on this site.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:06 pmYALE LAW SCHOOL.
In every narrative these stoats jump on, it’s always instructive to see what they leave out.
with Obama, it was TEN YEARS AS A PROFESSOR OF CONSTiTUTIONAL LAW at one of the nation’s most prestigious law schools.
They skipped right from community organizer to state representative.
With Sotomayor it’s Yale .
May 28th, 2009 at 9:07 pmStart badmouthing Yale and William F. Buckley will shuffle out of his grave.
Between the insults here and Tancredo’s rant, I have to say:
They [the Rethuglicans] just can’t help it. It’s automatic for these people to respond in this way. This behaviour on their part makes a patellar reflex look to have an Einstein IQ. It’s just the way they are….
Cheers,
May 28th, 2009 at 9:10 pmsamuel cutler Says:
its funny that “43″ actually had better grades than gore. Oh my, did i bring up a truth that is hard to deal with. too bad there is so much anger in these posts. its hard to have intelligent conversations when persons are attacked if their view is not the prevalent one on this site.
You forgot “hatred.” Otherwise, you touched upon all the imaginary points.
Better luck next time.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:11 pmcutler, you idiot:
May 28th, 2009 at 9:12 pmThe story was that 43 had better grades than Kerry.
Which is blazing testimony to the way legacies at Yale are treated.
Gore went to Harvard.
You’re having a hard time having an intelligent conversation, samuel?
May 28th, 2009 at 9:13 pmI think you meant “Kerry” but don’t let a little inaccuracy stop a perfectly lame talking point.
Well, if it had been a “truth”, then maybe… nah, still would have had nothing to do with the right wing trying to smear a Summa Cum Laude Princeton graduate as “maybe a D student”.
That’s okay’ we’re used to anger from folks like you. We understand that it must get frustrating watching your party implode.
I imagine it’s hard for you to have intelligent conversations, period. Impossible, even.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:14 pm#35 samuel cutler Says:
its funny that “43″ actually had better grades than gore….
It’s funny that Gore was smart enough to know that Iraq was a disaster, and Dubya hadn’t a clue (well, maybe not so funny for the 4000 servicemen that died because of Dubya’s stoopidity). Let’s see: When will Dubya win the Nobel, a Pulitzer, and an Oscar…. Ohhhh, say, about the time the War On A Noun is won….
… Oh my, did i bring up a truth that is hard to deal with. too bad there is so much anger in these posts. its hard to have intelligent conversations when persons are attacked if their view is not the prevalent one on this site.
It’s hard having “intelligent conversation” when you’re talking to a LimBot™ Just take my word for it … because you wouldn’t be able to figger that out by yourself even with a tutor and a head-start.
You might start, though, by trying to learn punctuation and capitalization.
Cheers,
May 28th, 2009 at 9:16 pmIt’s as if Republican talking heads are trying to come up with more nuanced groups to alienate. Today—people who graduated college with honors.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:16 pmOf course the real tragedy and in a way the real benefit here, is that minority college students and even high school and grade school students all over the country are hearing this right now from not just Rove, but Republicans Congressmen and Senators.
I cannot imagine the impact and effect this kind of racist, hateful insulting demeaning talk can have on the millions of minority students throughout the country. It must be devastating to hear such things, and what’s more, it must be highly motivating to not only prove them wrong, but to work like the dickens to vote out these men in their home states, and replace them with decent human beings.
Clearly these racist, denigrating slurs we’re hearing now coming from the right wing isn’t some sort of rebound rally.
It’s the death rattle.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:17 pmSo, does this mean Michael Steele got where he is….?
May 28th, 2009 at 9:17 pmKnow how to make a conservative cappuchino? Mention the word “latino” while he’s drinking his regular decaf.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:20 pmHere’s Bennett & Barnes’ thinking: it was wrong of Princeton to admit women & wrong of Princeton to allow “those people” in. White men are inherently smarter, more competent & just plain better than everybody else. It’s unseemly for the rest of you to interfere with your betters.
I wish I were kidding.
The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com
May 28th, 2009 at 9:20 pmRemember how GWB used to brag about being a “C” level student and college and how he then became President of the United States and Karl Rove was W’s biggest cheer leader? Rove is just jealous.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:21 pmsamuel cutler Says:
its funny that “43″ actually had better grades than gore. Oh my, did i bring up a truth that is hard to deal with. too bad there is so much anger in these posts. its hard to have intelligent conversations when persons are attacked if their view is not the prevalent one on this site.
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and yet here you are.
cognitive dissonance,
conservative hypocrisy.
:)
:<)
May 28th, 2009 at 9:23 pmThe Republicans are appearing nasty, hate filled degenerates who speak of high morals and standards, and then stoop to these “below the belt” suggestions. They are slowly tearing their party apart. Where are the Republicans taking their party and the country?
May 28th, 2009 at 9:23 pmIt’s making me sick!!!!!!!!
How dare you liberals make fun of our great thinkers on the right! They are criticizing Sotomayor because she lacks intellectual creds. Why shouldn’t they? She graduated at the top of her high school class and then at the top of an ivy league school. So what?
You know what a hard time they gave John McCain, who graduated in the bottom five percent of his class. They are nothing if not consistent! Oh, what? They didn’t make a fuss that their presidential candidate was a walking moron?
Never mind.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:23 pm…
zuch,
we’re just going to have to agree
to disagree on caps. e e cummings
doesn’t use them and neither do i.
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unless i’m forced to.
:)
May 28th, 2009 at 9:26 pmYeah (to Karl), Let’s see who that might be, how about George W. Bush, you snake.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:27 pmI guess that means I have no idea but lets accuse falsely
May 28th, 2009 at 9:32 pmYou havent yet proved she did
May 28th, 2009 at 9:33 pmoilforillegals Says:
Why is it you people can’t accept the fact that somebody benefited from affirmative action? Wasn’t it designed to help minorities? That pisses you off, why?
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who?
:)
May 28th, 2009 at 9:37 pmGOP logic: If 102% of the campus body isn’t white, then affirmative action is to blame.
At any rate, affirmative action is and will remain a noble concept where the benefits outweigh the few hiccups. It’s the rising tuition shutting out minority & poor- and middle-class families & legacy admissions that still pervades campuses. People of all walks of life need access to good academic programs so we can all participate and contribute to a healthy economy and intellectual base.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:38 pmThere’s no amount of good work that can be used to satisfy the GOP network if you’re an overachieving minority. The only shot you have as a minority in the GOP is to know your place and don’t achieve too much; keep yourself subordinate.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:43 pmoilforillegals Says:
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Why is it you people can’t accept the fact that somebody benefited from affirmative action? Wasn’t it designed to help minorities? That pisses you off,
Doesn’t piss me off – but I do believe it pisses ignorant people like you off. You’re a disgusting pig. The GOP is going down and I know it’s killing you. ROTFL! Keeping spewing all that hate.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:45 pmoilforillegals Says:
You got proof she didn’t suck somebody off to get where she is? Thought not.
Ah, yes, the troll tactic of “Prove a negative, Lib!”
It’s a statement of arrogance where a troll expects you to believe he did his homework w/o actually turning it in.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:47 pmSumma Cum Laude means to graduate “with highest honor.”
Chew on this:
George W. Bush’s Transcript:
Freshman Year:
Political Science 13B: 71 (C-)
Sociology 55A: 70 (C-)
Economics 10A: 71 (C-)
Economics 10B: 72 (C-)
Class rank freshman year: bottom 21%
Other grades:
Introduction to the American Political System: 73 (C-)
Introduction to International Relations: 71 (C- this might be the same as PoliSci 13 B above)
Astronomy: 69 (D+)
Anthropology 25: 88 (B+) his best grade ever at Yale
Overall GPA: 77 (C/C+)
I think this explains a lot about how Bush screwed up the country so badly.
Barnes is a jerk.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:47 pmOh PLEASE! First it was the evil black man stealing all the poor white dudes jobs, now it is Hispanic women that the GOPers have to fear! They are not winning ANYBODY with this argument, except the 20 odd percent who think Bush and Co. did a good job.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:49 pmoilspill – Judge Sotomayor earned her stripes – nothing you can say will EVER take that away. Rush, Rove, Barnes and the rest can’t touch Sotomayor – words mean nothing.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:50 pmOh, yes. Hiring somebody based on race is always a good idea….not!
May 28th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I don’t allow the drain-circling GOP to frame the debate or write the definitions. Affirmative action is a push back against Affirmative Exclusivity, and affords minorities the same opportunities and second chances the majority receives.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:52 pmTo the Republican mind, anyone who is (1) not a WASP/Caucasian and (2) not heterosexual is somehow deficient and less of a human being.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:53 pmDoesn’t anyone ever say that there was no such thing as ‘Affirmative Action” in 1972 when Judge Sotomayor graduated from high school and was applying to university. If you were poor, you had to have very high marks and a top-notch resume of activities to be admitted to a school such as Princeton. And tell Barnes and his crony that grade inflation was not even heard of in the 70’s. It is a phenomenon of the 90’s and last 10 years.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:54 pmoilforillegals Says:
You havent yet proved she did
Did somebody mention “proving a negative?” LOL
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no.
*
lol.
:)
May 28th, 2009 at 9:55 pmoilforillegals Says:
You havent yet proved she did
Did somebody mention “proving a negative?” LOL
You don’t understand. Your request that the poster prove that she did not benefit from undue influence in the admissions process arrogantly assumes that there’s a body of evidence for us to comb through to disprove you. But you don’t have any evidence. We have the end result that she graduated the top of her class.
So the homework assignment is yours, pal. Try to get some sleep after you’re finished.
May 28th, 2009 at 9:56 pmP.S. It’s truly breathtaking how they are confident in claming not only that Sotomayor “benefited from affirmative action over the years,” but that she did so
TREMENDOUSLY.
In GOP-land, facts don’t matter – it’s all about the confidence with which you lie.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:00 pmWhat I find most amusing is the Reichwhiner’s insistence on trying to smear her with her good qualities.
Her academic, intellectual, and professional credentials are impeccable. So? The Reichwhiners claim they “don’t matter”.
She acknowledges that she has experiences a white man couldn’t bring to the table? She’s a racist.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:00 pmYou said she got her position thru affirmative action — therefore, you, as the accuser bear the weight of proof.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:02 pmThe repug party should just bend over and try to enjoy it. No matter how they look at it their fcked. Its so nice standing on the sidelines and watching the rightwingnuts self destruct.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:03 pmIs it possible our little pets lose a fraction of their IQ with each new sockpuppet? Cause this one is just sad.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:03 pmBTW, “One wonders…” is not proof.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:04 pmThese right wing morons are always dismissive of higher education. Bush showed enough disdain for book learning and willful ignorance that they could overlook his ivy league education.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:07 pmXisithrus Says:
Did somebody mention “proving a negative?” LOL
You said she got her position thru affirmative action — therefore, you, as the accuser bear the weight of proof.
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he doesn’t understand this.
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May 28th, 2009 at 10:07 pmI agree with that opinion
May 28th, 2009 at 10:10 pmDoes anyone have any link giving evidence that she benefited from affirmative action regarding any of her school experience?
May 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pmoilforillegals Says:
Why is it you people can’t accept the fact that somebody benefited from affirmative action?
Doesn’t bother me at all, if it were the case. Is there any evidence that it was? If so, present it. If not, shut up.
It’s like if someone said that “one has to wonder if oilforillegals has sex with sheep,” then someone else chimed in that “evidence is mounting that oilforillegals has sex with sheep,” then I said oilforillegals has sex with sheep, but none of us ever produced any evidence for that at all. You would be correct to point out that there’s no evidence, even though nobody should take the word of a filthy sheepfcuker like yourself.
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hidie Says:
Doesn’t anyone ever say that there was no such thing as ‘Affirmative Action” in 1972 when Judge Sotomayor graduated from high school and was applying to university.
I’m not precisely sure. It started in the 1960’s, but implementation was gradual in a variety of areas throughout the next decade.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:17 pmjoe cantwell Says:
he doesn’t understand this.
He doesn’t understand much of anything as far as I can tell.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:18 pmShe has a history of graduating with honors, including valedictorian of her high school.
It’s amazing the racism and sexism that is surfacing with this nomination. Astounding.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pmEven if she got into Princeton via affirmative action, she most assuredly got out of Princeton, summa cum laude, on her own merits. D+?, probably a minimum of GPA=3.90, which was the standard where I went to school in the 70’s. As a 70’s female electrical engineering student, I know she probably had to fight all manner of professorial prejudice. Gracious folk, can ya please attack someone on substance?
May 28th, 2009 at 10:23 pmIf it were not for angry old white bigots, affirmative action would never have been necessary in the first place. End of story.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:23 pmhormiga brava chavez Says:
“…Trolls don’t mess with me because I know what I’m talking about.”
hbc, I’d suggest that the trolls not mess with you for any reason. ;)
May 28th, 2009 at 10:25 pmWhether Sotomayor benefited from Affirmative Action or not is irrelevant. Sotomayor’s graduating with honors is evidence enough that her intelligence is anything but average.
Hey oilspillforbrains – did you graduate with honors? Or are you a jealous hater with entitlement syndrome?
May 28th, 2009 at 10:26 pmI did a little research and, as far as I can tell, Princeton has never had any “affirmative action” policies and, as a private university, they have never been legally compelled to give anyone anything based on civil rights law.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:26 pmHey Jane E. Schneider – LOL – I save my ire for the trolls.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:27 pmSo let me get this right, from the statements of the Righties. Sotomayor is an activist, unintelligent racist. Hmm… They make her sound like a Republican.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:30 pmhbc, I’ve seen you in action when you’re on troll alert, I’m glad I’m not a troll.
Back on topic: I cannot believe that all of these idiots are trotting out these kinds of racist talking points after all of the crap with Clarence Thomas. And now we’re stuck with Justice Thomas who just happens to be close friends with Rush Limbaugh. Jebus!
May 28th, 2009 at 10:41 pmNot “astounding”. Stupefying. I’ve been corrected over at Yglesias.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:45 pmhormiga brava chavez Says:
My goodness – these evil old coots refuse to give Judge Sotomayor credit for anything. I don’t care what these low lifes say about Sotomayor – her reputation and academic achievements speak for themselves. Affirmative Action will only take a person so far. It may help you get your foot in the door but it takes intelligence and determination to achieve success. Trolls don’t mess with me because I know what I’m talking about.
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chavo,
you mess with the bull
you get the horns.
’nuff said.
:)
May 28th, 2009 at 10:47 pmAffirmitive action is going over the speed limit on the NJT on your way to NYC. It doesn`t matter if your black,white,yellow,or blue.The staties dont give a sht, they get off on writing tickets,and wearing those ugly ass hats.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:48 pmHey, Barnes, why don’t you persuade the President to nominate Dick butthead Cheney, I know he’s well qualified in the validity of Torture, I meam he’s experienced it first hand, it was torture when he waited on that “5th,” FIFTH Deferment from the military
May 28th, 2009 at 10:54 pmIf one does a bit more reading, one will see that the reason the Reichwhiners are reduced to this gibberish is that Judge Sotomayor has a moderate record. Her only decision regarding abortion supported the Bush Administration, she’s friendly to business, she’s decidedly apolitical. About the only hint of a negative I’ve seen have been dubious reports that she can be “too rough” on people who behave foolishly in her court.
So. What’s the logical conclusion? The screechers are screeching because it’s all they have left. And they’re screeching what they’re screeching because they got nothing.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:55 pmRepublicans expected Sandra Day O’Conner to be conservative, and Ginsberg was confirmed with a 96-3 vote. Is it because she was nominated by a black man? The ugly responses to her nomination floor me. Her background is so strong that the MSM really needs a good flogging for letting this nasty tone dominate for so long.
May 28th, 2009 at 10:56 pmWould the fact that Barnes is (was?) Provost at Syracuse University, and his own attendance at Harvard, have anything to do with his bias against Princeton?
May 28th, 2009 at 11:00 pmOne wonders if Barnes is having a bag of cocks for dinner. A case can me made for that.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:15 pmOT but funny —
May 28th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
One thing Ms Sotomayors nomination is doing is showing the true face of the repub neocon conservatives. When I hear their rhetoric I feel like I’m stuck in the middle of a kkk or nazi party rally.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:27 pmWhat do you think the RNC will throw at us tommorrow? It seems to me the Daisy Ad didn’t work, comparing Nancy Pelosi to Pussy Galore didn’t work( Even now the RNC is suing You-tube to tear the ad down) comparing Sotomayor to the KKK, ala, Tom Tamcrado, the GOP is batting a thousand.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:27 pmWhat an idiotic statement. This is what affirmative action is suppose to do…give a fair playing field for those who are intelligent and can’t get in to top schools because of their ethnicity.
I know teabaggers are stupid but really can they be any more dumb?
May 28th, 2009 at 11:28 pmTrue GOL, but we should really question whether or not she actually did gain college admission through affirmative action.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:28 pmI think Arnold just gave us a clue =)
May 28th, 2009 at 11:29 pmTweedy had it right…
Rush
Newt
Cheney
dumber, dumber, dumbest
May 28th, 2009 at 11:30 pmGame@105, Yes, they are that stupid. My poor, delusional father, started watching Faux News after Obama won. What can I say? He lives, now, in a state of constant paranoia. Sigh..
May 28th, 2009 at 11:30 pmOMG!! That Karl Rove and these right-wingnuts must have all been educated at Liberty University?
I graduated from Michigan summa cume laude, got my masters from Cornell University and working on a Phd. at Columbia University and now that “turd-bag” Karl Rove is calling me and others stupid because most of my education was obtained at Ivy League schools? WOW!! No wonder Karl Rove is pure “trailer trash” just like like the rest of the right-wingpsychos.
Gosh, these conservatives like Barnes and Rove make me sick what an insult to to the people that teach and went to ivy league schools.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:30 pmXisithrus@107, How long do you think The Arnold will last as Govenator? He seems to be getting hit from all sides.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:33 pmShe’s Hispanic and a woman. I’m surprised she can even dress herself.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:35 pmTrue, but people love the Arnold and he wont kiss Limbutt. heh
May 28th, 2009 at 11:36 pmI dont think Arnold plans on running again, FWIW
May 28th, 2009 at 11:38 pm…
the trolls have given up.
send us trolls with courage.
send us trolls with guts!
:|
May 28th, 2009 at 11:40 pmAs I mentioned yesterday Princeton has the toughest admission standards in the country. You don’t get in that kind of school with an academic scholarship without ability. For example, on an average year Stanford turns down 20K valedictorians. These schools don’t need to accept second rate students who need scholarships. They save those spaces for legacy admissions with lots of cash. The stupidity of these people is staggering.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:41 pmStupid is as stupid does.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:41 pmSums up the Republican Consertivities perfectly.
Xisithrus@114, Yeah, maybe it’s for the best. The GOPers are hunting down moderates. The Arnold will go the way Collins, Specter and Snowe. They will truly be the Whigs of this century.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pmTired of being lied to Says:
chimpy probably paid good money for those Cs.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Judge Sotomayor (a beautiful name in itself) would make a better president than chimpy anyway.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pmjoe cantwell Says:
send us trolls with a clue
May 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pmnominate Dick butthead Cheney,
Actually, Dumbya is Butthead, Cheney is Beavis.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pmThat seems to be the case. Yet it was the moderates that put them in office. Their plan, whatever it is, seems destined to fail.
May 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pmSend us Bill O’Reilly
wait, was that redundant?
May 28th, 2009 at 11:49 pmIncompetent white men have been getting jobs for hundreds of years because their daddies knew somebody. How’d you get your job trolling for the RNC? Obviously you’re not qualified for anthing.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:01 amSotomayor is quite qualified, despite pigment.
Yet, did you vent such concern when Alberto Gonzalez was nominated?
May 29th, 2009 at 12:01 amT = Totally
May 29th, 2009 at 12:01 amE = Extremist
A = Asswholes
We need to outlaw nepotism and legacy admissions and then we can get rid of affirmative action.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:01 amShe may have gotten in through affirmative action but has subsequently more than proved her worth. Unfortunately, the same can hardly be said about some other “affirmative action jurists” like Alberto Gonzales and Clarence Thomas.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:02 amDo you understand, OFI, that your eyes interpret only three wavelengths, being red green and blue and that pigment absorbs some wavelengths to give you the illusion of color?
There is nothing but darkness between me and you and that, my friend, is the truth.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:05 amI’ll try to make this real simple, stupid troll.
There are no “affirmative action” policies at Princeton and, as nearly as I can tell, there never has been.
And, unless you are saying Bush 41 nominated her for “affirmative action”? Ya got nothing.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:05 amoilforillegals Says:
I guess it doesn’t matter if they actually qualify or have the skills for the job, ay? Hire based on skin color, perfect!
No sir, we’re tired of hiring based on skin color or gender. It’s time to hire based on qualifications. The only folk scared of this are those afraid to compete on a level playing field.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:07 amXisithrus Says:
Do you understand, OFI, that your eyes interpret only three wavelengths, being red green and blue and that pigment absorbs some wavelengths to give you the illusion of color?
There is nothing but darkness between me and you and that, my friend, is the truth.
This is the truest thing anyone will post here today. Thanks friend.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:11 amYVW OIAPOL
May 29th, 2009 at 12:12 amSince black is the absence of color, and white is all colors combined, one would think these white men who spend so much time obsessing about the color of others could perhaps spend more time seeing the rainbow of color within themselves.
Now where did I put those rolling papers?
PEACE
May 29th, 2009 at 12:14 amSo, he offended everyone who went to Princeton, and everyone who got “some kind of Cum Laude” from every other school. Excellent work.
The Dems couldn’t write this script better.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:18 amThats true. When we sleep at night and no waves strike our eyes, we still see light and color in our dreams.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:19 am…
outstanding,
outstanding!
i salute you sir.
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 12:22 am…
Xisithrus,
you’ve tanned oil’s racist hide.
good for you!
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 12:24 amjoe cantwell Says:…
outstanding,
outstanding!
i salute you sir.
:)
I’m a mrs, but no matter, I’m honored that we are all of the same species.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:29 amXisithrus, you’ve tanned oil’s racist hide. good for you!
Perhaps, but it is so simple, and this makes me sad that people confuse color, EM waves, with race.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:31 amOf course, Sotomayor was from a single parent (mother) family living in a low socioeconomic status. She probably did get in at least partially because of some affirmative action.
But then, she took that advantage and graduated ?second? in her class; editor of the Review journal, etc. etc.
Her Ivy League competition included the well-heeled, silver-spoon-in-the-mouth, prep school attendee, scion of Papa Bush and of President Pierce on his mother’s side. He got in the Ivy League by the opposite of affirmative action (his family was alumnus and had a lot of money and political power). And his studies were a gentleman’s C.
While I dislike affirmative action, I’ll admit that it tries to balance out the “old boy system” that gives preference to the dufus offspring of rich families (in short, the rich have been getting a form of affirmative action for 200 years and still try to get it).
May 29th, 2009 at 12:32 amWhen I think they cannot be any more smug and sanctimonious, they prove me wrong.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:34 amThere is something wrong with these guys – their perspective on everything is twisted and perverted. How does anyone listen to them?
I generally don’t bother to post comments that just say things like this, but in this particular case, i just cannot help myself:
What fu@#ing a$$holes!
They don’t “wonder.” They are completely intellectually incurious. They cast aspersions with the ease with which I say, “it seems nice outside today.”
Barnes and Bennett are filthy wads of old gum on the sole of my rattiest Doc Martins.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 amXisithrus Says:
Xisithrus, you’ve tanned oil’s racist hide. good for you!
Perhaps, but it is so simple, and this makes me sad that people confuse color, EM waves, with race.
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i’m sure oil doesn’t get it.
his science project in h.s. was
a cream corn volcano.
he has not progressed since.
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May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 amLet me explain this about Affirmative Action.
If a corporation treated a bunch of employees the way America treated African Americans, and they sued, they’d walk away with the keys to the factories as well as the CEO’s ski lodge in Aspen as well.
the crimes that this nation committed both by legally considering them as animals, and after the legal principles of their equality had been established the oppression, terrorism and brutalization they endured de jure as well as de facto, constitute a wrong so severe and so heinous that it would not have been out of line to simply give the African Americans the South in recompense.
There’s fixing the law, and then there’s damages.
If this vast ocean of crime were to be considered the way ordinary tort cases would be considered, Princeton University, to take a random example, would forfeit all their assets and their entire endowment to the series of plaintiffs who were denied admission despite qualification, and for myriad of heinous crimes.
And they’re in the North.
What do you do when the damages you are so huge that it is literally impossible to pay the damages, using ordinary principles of tort law?
One of the things you try to do is repair some of the harm. improve the lot of the children of those wronged, help them out of the horrible conditions that racism all across the nation has put these people in.
But you righties that suddenly becoming colorblind legally is all that’s necessary, and anything else is wrong!
That’s like someone who has run over and killed a person’s child while they were drunk saying, “Hey, I’m going into rehab!” and getting upset when that doesn’t simply settle it.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:37 am@MapleStreet Says:
Of course, Sotomayor was from a single parent (mother) family living in a low socioeconomic status. She probably did get in at least partially because of some affirmative action.
Will someone please just go find the Frack out if she got preferential admission or NOT!???!
You are not much better than Barnes in making this lazy assumption.
Till she is proven to have gotten preferential admission, it is borderline racist (and classist and most probably sexist) to assume that because she is brown, grew up poor and with no dad present, she must have ‘gotten help to get in.”
May 29th, 2009 at 12:39 amWell said MapleStreet, I hope everyone remembers that when we discount women and minorities we risk losing the brain power that has made our blessed country successful. Can’t I get the rightwingers to endorse this theory based on pure selfishness?
May 29th, 2009 at 12:39 amBrain Bleach Stat!!
May 29th, 2009 at 12:42 am…
x and out,
watching the national spelling bee finals.
lots of kids who look like sonia sotomayor
few, i suspect, who look (or think) like oil.
>>>
smart kids!
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 12:50 amsmart kids!
:}
May 29th, 2009 at 12:57 amDidn’t Clarence Thomas, Mike Steele et al also benefit from Affirmative Action? Wish someone would affirm the right-wingsnuts mouth to be shut.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:02 amoilforillegals Says:
I guess it doesn’t matter if they actually qualify or have the skills for the job, ay? Hire based on skin color, perfect!
Of course it matters. No one ever suggested hiring unqualified people. There’s nothing in any affirmative action proposal or legislation that requires hiring unqualified people. None whatsoever. Never has been.
.
Lora Says:
She may have gotten in through affirmative action…
…but you’d think if so, somebody would have managed to find at least one shred of evidence by now.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:04 amJohnintexas Says:
Leave it to Obongo to do something so stupid as to nominate this witch. Perhaps if Democrats (Social Democratic Party of Amerika) were a little more intelligent about it they would ease up on showing their cards. Oh no . . . not this bunch. As this blog shows . . . Obongo has to pander to left Wing crazies . . . which puts him on a clear path to impeachment.
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why do you care?
i thought you were seceding.
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:06 amRove should be in a great position to know “stupid people that went to Ivy League schools” since he worked for one for a lot of years. But that stupid person barely got by with a C-, not the honors graduate Sotomeyer was.
Now if someone wants to bring up the issue if affirmative action they need look no further than Clarence Thomas for their example.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:14 amoilforillegals Says:
No sir, we’re tired of hiring based on skin color or gender. It’s time to hire based on qualifications.
So, we can do away with affirmative action? Good.
***
in that case you’re fired.
next!
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:22 am158…You fall for the myth conservatives LOVE to put out there, that Affirmative action gets in D and F minority students over A white students. It’s not as simple as that…
May 29th, 2009 at 1:22 amJohnintexas Says:
pbeeg . . .
I guess you missed the Civil War . . . 600,000 WHITE men dead. Almost as many wounded. I did some back-of-the-envelope calculations once and the BLOOD shed by just WHITES during the Civil War would be enough to fill two or three Olympic-size swimming pools.
Guess you missed the complete destruction of the South.
Guess you missed the countless programs launched DURING Reconstruction to help former slaves.
Guess you also missed the COUNTLESS preferential treatment programs and handouts “up Nawth” BEFORE the 1950s.
Guess you also missed the minimum of $10 trillion ($10,000,000,000) we have flushed down the toilet helping the Negro since the Civil Rights Era.
The Negro in America was treated as a beast of burden. His contribution to this country was no more important than the horse and mule. That work was paid for DURING slavery by slave-owners who fed, clothed and housed the Negro. Of course, not to his liking . . . but far better than his cousins back in Africa.
There were what, 4 million slaves freed in 1865? We have almost 40 million blacks today. Why EXACTLY is it that a nation heavily populated by European immigrants who arrived AFTER the Civil War owes ex-slaves anything?
The Negro has been repaid for his beast of burden service. The children of those slaves enjoy a standard of living far GREATER than any black man on earth. Trillions have been spent trying to help him reach a higher socio-economic status.
Enough is enough. Affirmative Action is a joke and it is un-Constitutional.
If the negro is incapable of competing in a modern society without MY tax dollars then he has to resign himself to being a permanent underclass.
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the mask falls away.
the face of the republican party is revealed.
southern strategy anyone?
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May 29th, 2009 at 1:26 am160. You assume that there are no barriers put up, well psychological studies have shown that our biases pervade through our society more than you think they do. For example, people with names like Tyrone are less likely to be called back than someone with a name like Fred.
It looks like YOUR biases are showing through with your use of terminology that is antiquated and your insistence that the slaves’ contribution to our society is no better than your ordinary run-of-the-mill beast of burden. The fact that you are willing to dehumanize them is rather disturbing and I hope that is not the case. If it weren’t for the South, who would have built the South? The Southern cavaliers who spent their time jumping bushes and courting Southern belles? Face it, the contributions of the slaves is a lot more than you are willing to give them credit for.
You are no better than the slavery apologists who said the slaves would be living in “savagery” in Africa…and your use of Obongo? What is it? Do you think you’re so clever in coming up with what you think is an African name?
May 29th, 2009 at 1:28 amoilforillegals Says:
Affirmative Action is a joke and it is un-Constitutional.
Not to mention racist.
***
only a racist like you (and john) would know.
good luck with your outdated and shrinking party.
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:28 amif it weren’t for the slaves* who would have built the South?
May 29th, 2009 at 1:29 amJudge Sotomayor got into Princeton despite deeply unfair admission quotas that discriminated against her. In ‘72 (the year she was apparently admitted), Princeton was in only its 3rd year of accepting women. The number of women was strictly limited so that the women admitted had significantly higher qualifications than the men admitted in the same year.
From the book “The Chosen” by Jerome Karabel:
“In 1970, with a “fixed ratio” of 4 men for every woman, this meant that only 14 percent of the female applicants were accepted, compared to 22 percent of the men. …[T]he women who were admitted to Princeton were even more elite both academically and socially than their male classmates” (p. 437).
“While the degree of male advantage in the admissions process declined in 1971 and 1972, the continued unequal treatment of female applicants was becoming less acceptable both at Princeton and in the larger society” (p. 438).
“On January 19, 1974 … Princeton’s trustees announced that, effective immediately, the university would adopt sex-blind admissions” (p. 439).
Thus, Judge Sotomayer gained admission into Princeton in the face of a fixed quota against women. Did she receive any special consideration as a Puerto Rican? Perhaps. Hers was only the fourth class for which Princeton made any attempt to recruit Puerto Rican students:
“1968-1969 was also the year Princeton began to recruit Mexican Americans, Puerto Ricans, and Native Americans and expanded its efforts to recruit more ‘disadvantaged’ whites” (p. 398).
In 1972, Princeton reported that the freshman class included 22 Latino students, 15 Chicano students, 27 “Oriental” students, 5 Indian students, and 113 black students, for a total of 181 “Third World students” (as Princeton then called them) out of a class of approximately 1127 (p. 399).
To compare, the number of students admitted as athletes was 310 (p. 477) and many spaces (approximately 200-250) were taken by legacies, who were admitted with significantly lower qualifications (p. 467, 478):
“Princeton … was careful not to tamper with legacy preference. Admissions rate for alumni children never fell much below double the rate for other applicants, and in the mid-1970s preferences for legacies actually increased. In 1975, 48 percent gained admission – a rate 2.3 times higher than other applicants.” (p. 478)
So Sotomayer was discriminated against in admissions to Princeton because she wasn’t male, a scholarship-worthy athlete, or a legacy, but she probably received positive consideration because she was Puerto Rican. And if she required financial assistance to attend Princeton (as seems extremely likely from her family circumstances), she needed to be even more qualified, because:
“At the time the least wealthy of the Big Three, Princeton could not offer financial aid to all the admits who needed it. Though admissions was officially need-blind, Princeton lacked the resources to make it ‘full-aid’” (p. 399-400).
May 29th, 2009 at 1:30 am…
Guess you missed the complete destruction of the South.
…
we saw the pictures.
…
May 29th, 2009 at 1:34 amoilforillegals Says:
UCSBKitty Says:
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if it weren’t for the slaves* who would have built the South?
Are you condoning slavery?
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you are.
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May 29th, 2009 at 1:36 amoilforillegals Says:
“I think everybody should have one.”
Richard Pryor
Truer words not spoken.
*
that doesn’t make any sense.
s/b “truer words were never spoken.”
if only you’d stuck it out to the fifth grade.
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May 29th, 2009 at 1:41 amoilforillegals Says:
UCSBKitty Says:
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if it weren’t for the slaves* who would have built the South?
Are you condoning slavery?
Don’t take my words out of context. Your friend was suggesting that the slaves’ contributions were no more than the beast of burden. My point was that he was dehumanizing them and failing to give them the credit that they deserve. That does not mean I was a slavery apologist like your friend there. He was using the same talking points that the slave apologists like George Fitzhugh did in the 1850s…
May 29th, 2009 at 1:41 amIt looks like YOUR biases are showing through with your use of terminology that is antiquated and your insistence that the slaves’ contribution to our society is no better than your ordinary run-of-the-mill beast of burden. The fact that you are willing to dehumanize them is rather disturbing and I hope that is not the case. If it weren’t for the South, who would have built the South? The Southern cavaliers who spent their time jumping bushes and courting Southern belles? Face it, the contributions of the slaves is a lot more than you are willing to give them credit for.
You are no better than the slavery apologists who said the slaves would be living in “savagery” in Africa…and your use of Obongo? What is it? Do you think you’re so clever in coming up with what you think is an African name?
Read the edit in FULL CONTEXT, before judging me…
May 29th, 2009 at 1:42 amoilforillegals Says:
joe cantwell Says
How many times were you beat up in school, every day? Poor kid. All those lunches mommy made you you never got to eat….
***
i just ate your lunch.
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:42 am***
and i got a hand job
from your “mommy”.
not bad.
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:43 amoilforillegals Says:
joe cantwell Says
You must have been hittin the pipe during english class..you’re desperation is showing, still.
***
meth not doing it for you oil?
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:44 am…
oil?
oil….?
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:47 amoilforillegals Says:
joe cantwell Says
You must have been hittin the pipe during english class..you’re desperation is showing, still.
***
someone’s having a problem with english.
s/b “your”
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:48 amoilforillegals Says:
Affirmative Action is a joke and it is un-Constitutional.
Not to mention racist.
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The Republicans are a joke and they are un-Constitutional. (Bush’s “Torture” Adminastration just proved that.)
Not to mention racist but not their psychological ideology of “hypocrisy.”
By the way: Tonights “WTF?!?” rocked :-) thanks Keith.
I got a great DNC commercial running through my head right now against those Republicans that voted against the Auto bailout.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:49 amIn short, when we watched the Mancow video for the first time it struck us in a “well that doesn’t look TOO awful” sort of way. For a brief moment it even made us want to call some friends over so we could all waterboard each other and see what all the fuss is about. On the other hand, the Hitchens video is somewhat nightmarish, making us want to never have anything to do with a waterboarding, ever.
Of course the troll thinks that his link validates his insistence that waterboarding is just another trip in the dunk tank, missing this from the very link he provides…
May 29th, 2009 at 1:53 amoilforillegals Says:
joe cuntwell Says
When you can’t refute, go after typos. olbyloon rule no. 1.
very classy…
May 29th, 2009 at 1:54 am…
oilforillegals Says:
http://gawker.com/5271813/did-erich-mancow-muller-fake-his-waterboarding-for-publicity
You loons fell for it hook, line and sinker! LOL! I was right all along. Shocker!
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“In our post yesterday we actually praised Mancow for having the courage to undergo the infamous interrogation technique AND then going so far as to appear as a guest on a show hosted by television’s shoutiest liberal to proclaim how wrong and misguided he’s been all along. Here’s part of what we said:
We suppose it’d be easy to mock and ridicule “Mancow” here, as he does seem to be an extraordinarily massive tool, not even taking into consideration that he was one of the main guys spreading the “Obama is a closet Muslim” rumors during the election, but there’s something truly admirable in a) being sufficiently curious and willing to undergo the procedure personally to truly see what it was like to be on the receiving end of a waterboarding, and b) appearing on the air with arguably the most unabashedly liberal host on television to profess how horribly wrong he’d been previously.
Despite the emails indicating that the whole thing may have been staged, there’s a small part of us that still wants to extend Erich “Mancow” Muller the benefit of the doubt, despite his being no stranger to controversy, but our skepticism at this point is pretty dang high, and we can’t help from feeling as though we, along with a host of others, have been duped by a cheap publicity stunt.”
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you left that out.
wonder why?
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:54 amyes we taught you how to use the word cunt…*snark
May 29th, 2009 at 1:57 amoilforillegals Says:
joe cuntwell Says
When you can’t refute, go after typos. olbyloon rule no. 1.
***
no wonder girls won’t date you.
guess you’re stuck with farm animals, eh?
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 1:57 amJohnintexas
Your perspective is a misleading, bigoted, and a terrible one at that. So your ancestors have done everything right and black people are still inhuman despite the generosity of you and your ilk, right? I know people like you. You get a kick out of setting other people up for failure. You claim you want them to succeed, but you really want to abuse them to a place below you so you can feel superior and depended upon.
You are the worst of America. With that, secede and get the hell off the federal payroll, Texan. Get the hell out of my country.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:57 amoilforillegals Says:
but our skepticism at this point is pretty dang high, and we can’t help from feeling as though we, along with a host of others, have been duped by a cheap publicity stunt.”
Far lefties/olbyloons…duped, again!
From someone who was duped into supporting an illegal war…
May 29th, 2009 at 2:00 amoilforillegals Says:
very classy…
I learned it here…
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your parents (sarah and todd)
taught you that at home?
;\
May 29th, 2009 at 2:00 amoilforillegals
Grades K-12, it’s a long road ahead for you, buddy.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:02 amoilforillegals, the point we “olbyloons” want to make is that TORTURE IS WRONG, ILLEGAL, AND IMMORAL, DOES NOTHING TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY SAFE. Unless you’re one of those conservatives who wet their pants everytime the GOP yells TERROR TERROR TERROR…you can see that clearly and easily. Plus, it puts our soldiers on the field in GREATER DANGER, but you don’t care, because you’re safe and sound at home behind your computer.
Then again, you believed the false confessions about the link between Al Qaeda and Iraq that TORTURE brought forth.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:03 amoilforillegals Says:
How’s olby going to spin this story? I know, he’ll spike it like he does all the stories that make a fool of him. FISA ring any bells? Habeus Corpus ring any bells, olby? LOL!
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the meth is really kicking in now.
read that back to yourself.
check your pupils in the mirror.
call 912.
lie down on the floor.
you’ll feel better in an hour.
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 2:04 ambut let me say to you…at least I don’t GET OFF on torture…
May 29th, 2009 at 2:05 amoilforillegals Says:
“Hoodwinked” comes to mind…
Oxygen doesn’t come to your brain, let alone the word “Hoodwinked.”
May 29th, 2009 at 2:06 amUCSBKitty Says:
but let me say to you…at least I don’t GET OFF on torture…
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he does.
they call it “cheney viagra”.
…
May 29th, 2009 at 2:06 amIt shows the world that we are willing to hold OURSELVES accountable…You don’t condemn the act, but rather the people who WANT to hold people who engaged in torture accountable…but continue to get your jollies on defending torture…
May 29th, 2009 at 2:07 amoilforillegals Says:
You loons fell for it hook, line and sinker! LOL! I was right all along. Shocker!
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ofi, I see you studied at The Rush Limbaugh School of Brainwashing. Looks like you completed the remedial part of your degree. And yeah, I like that 1989 movie “Shocker” Rove reminds me of Pinker, I’m sure you can think of other like Pinkers within the GOPcons?
By the way at #184 it should have read, “Not to mention racist and their psychological ideology of “hypocrisy.”
My dogs where bugging me to go out, gotta go take care of them I heart my dogs.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:09 amoilforillegals Says:
Plus, it puts our soldiers on the field in GREATER DANGER, but you don’t care, because you’re safe and sound at home behind your computer.
Releasing gitmo pics helps us, how? “The war is lost” helps us, how? STFU.
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desperation.
crazy desperation.
;<)
des·per·a·tion (dsp-rshn)
n.
1. The condition of being desperate.
2. Recklessness arising from despair.
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for your benefit oil.
:)
May 29th, 2009 at 2:09 amJohnintexas Says:
Leave it to Obongo…
Lemme guess, you’re one of those “non-racists” too, huh?
.
oilforillegals Says:
One day they praise him the next they talk shit about him. Same with reid, pelosi and a host of others.
It’s called having higher brain function and agreeing or disagreeing with peoples’ actual positions and opinions, rather than merely worshipping or demonizing them. It’s the same way that most people who can think actually function.
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oilforillegals Says:
So, we can do away with affirmative action? Good.
We would be able to if there still weren’t so many of your racists still around. The recent comments made by many prominent Republicans clearly demonstrate that we are a lot closer to 1965 than perhaps we had thought.
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Johnintexas Says:
The Negro in America was treated as a beast of burden. His contribution to this country was no more important than the horse and mule. That work was paid for DURING slavery by slave-owners who fed, clothed and housed the Negro. Of course, not to his liking . . . but far better than his cousins back in Africa.
Wow, a pro-slavery wingnut. This is like some kind of anthropological study up in here. Go back to StormFront, pig.
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Hey oilforillegals, talk some more about how there’s no need for affirmative action any more. Johnintexas can whistle Dixie behind you while you speechify.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:09 amLet me guess — oilforillegals is up late on the computer despite his mother’s wishes because he fears an olby is under his bed.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:09 amjoe cantwell Says:
UCSBKitty Says:
but let me say to you…at least I don’t GET OFF on torture…
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he does.
they call it “cheney viagra”.
I’ve come to the conclusion that it makes the wingnut trolls feel all safe and secure and perhaps even aroused inside…This troll doesn’t go talking about how he would do anything to protect his family, but rather uses torture as a political stick to beat us over the head with.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:11 amoilforillegals Says:
Being stacked in a pyramid is nothing compared to having your throat slashed and put on al jazeera.
How come all of you cowards are such experts about degrading treatment you’ve never undergone? What are you, all serial killers at home or something?
Also: child rape. kthxbai.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:12 amoilforillegals Says:
but continue to get your jollies on defending torture…
Being stacked in a pyramid is nothing compared to having your throat slashed and put on al jazeera.
So it’s come down to “TEH TERRORISTS do it even worse!” That excuse does not work in the playground, I would laugh off any student trying to use it, and it should not work here. Then again, you Republicans always use the “Clinton did it” defense, thus proving how sophomoric you truly are.
Whether our enemies torture or not, we are bound to the rule of law…Of course it doesn’t matter to you, because you continue to get all HOT AND BOTHERED by it…never mind that we have signed onto international law…and no matter how much we try to change our US Code to justify the use of torture, that does not serve as an excuse.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:13 amElBruce Says:
oilforillegals Says:
Being stacked in a pyramid is nothing compared to having your throat slashed and put on al jazeera.
How come all of you cowards are such experts about degrading treatment you’ve never undergone? What are you, all serial killers at home or something?
Also: child rape. kthxbai.
Yet, they’ll never volunteer to undergo such treatment, like that coward Hannity. I’m glad he’s not getting waterboarded because no one should, even though in doing so, perhaps he could have understood what it truly meant, instead of treating it with the false bravado he did. He must have expected that it was nothing more than a prank in the swimming pool as Jon talked about or a dunk in the dunk tank.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:15 amoilforillegals Says:
Being stacked in a pyramid is nothing compared to having your throat slashed and put on al jazeera.
You know, your legacy admit, leader 43, could have decided not to fix the intel and put our servicemen and women in harms way, if the harm to our troops is something you’re concerned about.
But the truth is, your “concern” for our servicemen and women is something than began on Jan. 21. You sit your ass in the basement and do nothing while the adults try to unwind the deeply-entrenched logistical nightmare in Iraq, try to figure where we left off in Afghanistan (if it’s even possible for us to fully resume), and deal with the overall destabilization of the middle east, thanks to the AEI Battleship hawks.
You got what you wanted, and millions of people are suffering from what they don’t want.
The obligations in the trillions will be shouldered by people in the workforce or preparing to enter, and you have too much time on your hands to be one of them. Why not make a change? guarantee you, it would be easier to drop the warmongering and intolerance if you find something else to bide your time.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:25 amoilforillegals please Nancy Grace is “disgraceful”
So why are those dealerships crying foul now who contributed to the “Rethuglicans” who voted against the auto bailout? I think you should go back an look at that “WTF?!?” again for the facts.
Cheney had to apologize to Gen. Powell. Is this Affirmative- Action?
May 29th, 2009 at 2:26 amI know others have repeated what I’m about to say, but I must say it again:
She graduated second in her class at Princeton!
Jesus! And she was one of two students selected for the top academic prize that, in addition to recognized her superior academic rank, also recognized her character and leadership.
Meanwhile Alito who graduated summa cum laude and of lower rank than her and without that top prize was touted as a damn intellectual powerhouse.
Could their bigotry be any more naked?!
May 29th, 2009 at 2:42 am.
‘ “I know lots of stupid people who went to Ivy League schools,” said Rove. ‘
I think I know who he’s talkin’ about…
Boola-boola, Baby!
May 29th, 2009 at 2:55 am.
oilforillegals: You’re scum.
May 29th, 2009 at 3:02 amFreddy Boy Barnes:
1. Grew up as the son of an Air Force officer near D.C.
2. Attended an elite private school in Alexandria, Va.
called Saint Stephen’s. The current tuition for one
year in high school at St. Stephens (now called
Saint Stephens and Saint Agnes) is $26,425. Oh, by the
way, John McCain, privileged Admiral’s son, also
attended Saint Stephen’s.
3. Had a fellow dipshit high school chum who attended a
different elite private school nearby,the chum was Brit
Hume.
4. Carried out business as usual with absolutely no reaction
when a caller speaking to him on C-Span referred to Obama
as Mr. Monkey Boy.
So, let’s be clear, Mr. Barnes whole life as a white male
May 29th, 2009 at 3:37 amfrom a well-off family has been one big case of affirmative action. Further, he is compromised by his disdain for non-whites and not only tolerates but endorses extreme inequality in America.
Maybe we should have affirmative action for poor white trash.
May 29th, 2009 at 3:46 amWhere is Morning Joe to ask how stupid people get on TV?
May 29th, 2009 at 6:28 amShe did benefit from affirmative action. It’s not she was valedictorian of her high school. Oh wait… She was!! Oh nevermind.
May 29th, 2009 at 6:36 amRepublicans hate smart people. They fear them, so having a smart Latina on the SCOTUS is too much for them! Good. Suffer.
May 29th, 2009 at 6:51 amwouldn’t it be nice just to have people in office who really are looking for the betterment of the whole country, or perhaps the world, not only for their own race or interest group?
May 29th, 2009 at 7:06 amSomeone who thinks of the country people as country people, not white, black, hispanic, male, female etc.
Now, that might be what was meant in the Declaration of Independance as “All Men Created Equal”
hhhmmm
samuel cutler Says:
its funny that “43″ actually had better grades than gore.
You are full of it. Bush graduated in the bottom 10% in high school and got rejected from some collages before his daddy got him in at Yale. And trust me for a c- student to get in to Yale his father is still pulling strings for that favor.
AND I WILL GUARANTEE YOU BUSH DID NOT HAVE BETTER GRADES THAN AL GORE. EVEN AN IDIOT WOULD INSTANTLY KNOW THAT.
May 29th, 2009 at 7:27 amI guess Fred Barnes has no other outlet for his repressed Bush man-crush sexuality than to trash a woman who is 100 times smarter and more real than the squeeze toy from hell that pukes that he is.
May 29th, 2009 at 7:51 amoilforillegals Says:
joe cuntwell Says
When you can’t refute, go after typos. olbyloon rule no. 1.
And following the “rule of the liberals”…
oilforillegals Says:
“When you get debunked and you can’t find any typos, make a personal attack…olbyloon rule no. 2.”
So it’s okay if you do it? Yes, calling someone names is a personal attack.
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Good morning, 0$. Let’s run down the questions again.
1. What kind of car do you drive?
2. How did Pelosi know about rapes in Abu Ghraib?
3. How long do you think you could last if you were waterboarded?
May 29th, 2009 at 8:12 amBIGOT!!!!!
May 29th, 2009 at 8:29 amthe republican party openly despises intellectualism.
which pretty much makes you an idiot if your still calling yourself a republican.
it’s not about country. it’s about old, rich, white guys staying rich.
and that’s all folks.
May 29th, 2009 at 8:50 amI had to stop reading comments to post this one:
oilforillegals:
Proving that someone DID do something is NOT proving a negative, because there is something there to prove. Proving that someone DID NOT do something IS proving a negative because there is nothing there to prove. It’s incredible that this needs to be explained to you, especially taking into consideration the audacity with which you seem to be claiming that she was, in fact an affirmative action candidate at Princeton. You, clearly, are in no position to judge ANYONE’S intelligence, as you can’t even comprehend the most basic of concepts, such as the difference between an action and the lack of an action.
You’re pathetic.
May 29th, 2009 at 8:57 amWhat awful people, seriously. If you think she’s too “liberal” or disagree with her, fine. What can I say to that?
But to sit here and say she doesn’t deserve her job, she was given to it because she’s Hispanic, that she’s stupid… I mean, come on. It’s nothing of substance, they have nothing to base it upon. “One wonders” is not a compelling argument.
I hope she has really high self esteem because if this many people were saying this about me on the news I’d be a mess.
May 29th, 2009 at 9:04 amsmidget,
oilforillegals, a.k.a. obamawipe$, a.k.a. one of many other names, isn’t here to make an intelligent comment. He’s here to do the following:
1. distract us from the issue at hand by bringing up Democratic Party issues that may or may not be related.
2. steal the quotes from people who have criticized liberal/progressive thought on other websites and post them here without providing citation.
3. add “Shocker!” to the end of everything we say.
He’s got no intellectual capital in any of his arguments, no reason in his defenses, and no opinion that constitutes his own.
He is the true definition of “the Party of No”. He’s gotten under my skin long ago, so I don’t mind talking smack about him any more.
May 29th, 2009 at 9:25 amyea Says:
wouldn’t it be nice just to have people in office who really are looking for the betterment of the whole country, or perhaps the world, not only for their own race or interest group?
That’s what Obama did in picking Sotomayor. If irresponsible wingnuts weren’t pushing the “she’s so biased!” argument, we’d just be talking about her qualifications right now. Which are stellar. As Obama pointed out, and she has more experience than any sitting Justice when they were nominated. Also, her judicial record is about as “moderate” as it gets.
May 29th, 2009 at 10:18 am“benefitted from affirmative action” is that supposed to be some sort of criticism? The whole point of affirmative action is that people benefit, that past and current discrimination is severe enough that legal requirements are necessary to counter them.
Now if the country didn’t have something on the order of a 30% wingnut population, there might not be a need for affirmative action. Unfortunately the depravity of republican/conservatism only seems to get deeper and more radical, which means a counter will be needed for the foreseeable future. It would be wonderful if their cowardly doltish extremism was getting increasingly more desperate because it is in its last throes, but I’m skeptical.
The natural state of a human is a frightened violent ignoramus – it takes work to overcome that, something wingnuts have not the intelligence, desire, or capability to do.
May 29th, 2009 at 10:21 amWTF – white males have ALWAYS gotten preferential treatment. If figures that they would moan and groan when anyone else excels and gets a job appointment that they did not get.
May 29th, 2009 at 10:50 amTough cookies guys, it is about time others get a chance to have the jobs you and yours have been controlling for so long.
To ElBruce,
I am rather surprised you chose to take part of my comment so as to distort its meaning. My full posting (She may have gotten in through affirmative action but has subsequently more than proved her worth. Unfortunately, the same can hardly be said about some other “affirmative action jurists” like Alberto Gonzales and Clarence Thomas.) means that it doesn’t really matter whether or not she was admitted through affirmative action, as she proved to be one of the best students in her class at Princeton.
Although I am no longer a frequent poster here at TP, if you have read any of my comments over the years, you should realize that I am not a rightwing troll. To reply to me and oilforillegals in the same space is absurd and insulting.
Lora Says:
She may have gotten in through affirmative action…
ElBruce
May 29th, 2009 at 11:18 am…but you’d think if so, somebody would have managed to find at least one shred of evidence by now.
When Sotomayar went to Princeton there were quotas LIMITING women to 1 per 4 men admitted. So yeah, there was affirmative action involved, protecting the MEN.
Really, Barnes and Buchannan, Rush and Newt and Scarborough and the lot of them are nothing but blind sexists.
May 29th, 2009 at 11:42 am147 Snowman said “Till she is proven to have gotten preferential admission, it is borderline racist (and classist and most probably sexist) to assume that because she is brown, grew up poor and with no dad present, she must have ‘gotten help to get in.”
Snowman, my point is just the opposite. Not racist but rather distrustful of institutions. Having been on admissions committees, there are a deluge of both qualified applicants and applicants with political pull which maybe aren’t as qualified. Not to mention, you’re trying to assemble a “student body” that is productive of education. In short, a crazy political system.
Even though Sotomayor was validictorian of her High School, the question is how she was able to assemble an impressive enough CV to get into Princeton, whose traditional stance hadn’t even allowed in women until a few years before her application. Instead of assuming that she didn’t work her keister off, I’m saying that even working her keister off she would need some sort of political pull.
But also, as mentioned by several folks above, any affirmative action would, at most, have gotten her in the door. Once there, she had continued an extremely impressive educational career.
And if you look at my original post, the person I’m implying was lazy was a certain **ahem** gentleman from a New England prep school who liked to pretend that he was from Texas, and is as white as white can be.
May 29th, 2009 at 11:55 amoilforillegals Says:
Good morning, 0$. Let’s run down the questions again.
1. What kind of car do you drive? Which one?
2. How did Pelosi know about rapes in Abu Ghraib? It was her job.
3. How long do you think you could last if you were waterboarded? How long would the person last waterboarding me, that’s the question. Next?
Wow. Smart guy. Obama would be proud to hire you for your question-avoiding skills.
Try again. Perhaps there were too many questions for your little mind to bend around, so I’ll choose just one. Heck, I’ll even modify it so you can correctly answer it this time.
What brand name of car(s) do you drive? (And be specific.)
Go ahead.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:04 pmRe: education, let’s look at some of the top radio/TV show hosts with a strong political bent:
- Rush Limbaugh: dropped out of Southeastern Missouri State
- Sean Hanity: dropped out of NYU and Adelphi
- Glen Beck: dropped out of Yale (second time because of his divorce)
and, of course:
- Karl Rove: left both University of Utah and University of Maryland
versus
- Keith Olbermann: entered Cornell at 16 (had full scholarship at Boston U), graduated with BS in communications
- Rachel Maddow: Stanford BS, won John Gardner Fellowship; Rhodes Scholar; DPhil (PhD) from Oxford
There are certainly well-educated right-leaning commentators, like Bennett, but, hearing Rove et al bad-mouthing someone’s educational achievement is hilarious. Also, I wonder what Barnes, Bennett, etc would say if someone suggested that their children’s academic achievements were irrelevant?
May 29th, 2009 at 1:46 pmBoy, John.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:56 pmThat was a MASSIVE pile of crap- even for Texas…
John, that kind of post does not deserve a response…Face it, you are an unabashed racist…
May 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pmShe graduated second in her class at Princeton.
I wonder if she could have made it in a **REAL** law school like Regents Univ.
May 29th, 2009 at 4:51 pmJust when you think the Reichwhiners have reached rock-bottom? Some moron from Texas decides to chime in. Can we just make them secede now?
BTW, “John”, you’re a subhuman POS and really should consider removing yourself from society.
May 29th, 2009 at 4:51 pmOne last time for the record: Princeton is a private university and is not subject to “affirmative action” laws. Judge Sotomayor was first appointed by G.H.W. Bush. So, if Judge Sotomayor ever benefited from “affirmative action”? It was Chimpy’s Daddy who done it.
May 29th, 2009 at 5:02 pmit’s amazing how the “right” thinks. one wonders where they get their brains.
oh, right, not in an ivy league school, for sure. Karl Rove who claimed “he knows a lot of stupid people going to ivy school” went to the venerable University of Utah, where he remained a student only on a part-time basis to avoid the draft (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove)
and those two guys claiming summa cum laude is nothing just to put down Ms Sotomayor?
Fred Barnes graduated from the University of Virginia (not an ivy school) without honors, not even a cum, on a silly major called “history” against Ms Sotemayor’s summa.
Bill Bennett graduated from a school called “Williams College”, (his personal school?), evidently not an ivy league school, and also without honors.
I wish these people should look inside first before screaming “bloody hell” on others. Btw, Mr Bennett is also a compulsive, high-stakes gambler who lost millions in Las Vegas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Bennett). way to go for a conservative, Catholic loudmouth! talk about horrible values!!
May 29th, 2009 at 5:22 pmYou’re a sick POS and dumb as a stump, stupid troll. You really think you can frighten anyone when every word shows how terrified you are by a World that you can’t comprehend? Your time has come to an end and there are fewer like you each day.
May 29th, 2009 at 6:26 pmOn Tuesday night, former Bush adviser Karl Rove said that despite her stellar academic credentials, Sotomayor was “not necessarily” smart. “I know lots of stupid people who went to Ivy League schools,” said Rove.
So do I Most of them are Republicans.
May 29th, 2009 at 9:21 pmtelestai2 Says:
On Tuesday night, former Bush adviser Karl Rove said that despite her stellar academic credentials, Sotomayor was “not necessarily” smart. “I know lots of stupid people who went to Ivy League schools,” said Rove.
So do I. Most of them are Republicans.
I should have added this: Many of them, in fact, have been Republicans appointed or elected to government positions.
May 29th, 2009 at 9:24 pmPurple State / Lavender Boy Says:
oilforillegals, a.k.a. obamawipe$,
Is he aka johnfromtexas?
May 29th, 2009 at 10:03 pmJohnintexas Says:
This is a Christian-Conservative country
Actually, this is the United States of America, a secular nation that practices separation of church and state. Perhaps you’re confused about where you are. I invite you to leave it.
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Johnintexas Says:
You don’t know anybody like me.
Thank God.
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Johnintexas Says:
Feel free to call me a racist; I don’t care. What you CAN’T do is prove that I’m wrong.
1) You are a racist
2) Racism is wrong
3) You are wrong (1,2)
Deductive proof.
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Johnintexas Says:
. . . and when the white-Conservative mob takes to the street.
Looking forward to it. We’ll have the tear gas and rubber bullets ready, criminal.
May 29th, 2009 at 10:24 pmJohnintexas Says:
. . . and when the white-Conservative mob takes to the street.
Dibs on first shot at Limbaugh!
May 29th, 2009 at 11:53 pmJohnintexas Says:
You don’t know anybody like me.
Not too well, perhaps, but my wife does get her little Pomeranian’s hair trimmed and shampooed at a dog salon located in a trailer park, so I have met a few like you.
May 30th, 2009 at 12:12 amThis candidate has more judicial experience than any other candidate from recent presidents, and she is being classified as an “affirmative action” candidate, isn’t that exactly what the “right” said about President Obama? Wasn’t Clarence Thomas an “affirmative action” candidate?
May 30th, 2009 at 12:21 amJohnintexas Says:
246/247/249 More name-calling. OK. Why not? That’s typical liberal-speak. Feel free to call me a racist; I don’t care. What you CAN’T do is prove that I’m wrong. I’m giving you the hard truth of life in America today. Whether you choose to blow me off is your business. We’ll see who’s right come 2010, 2012 . . . and when the white-Conservative mob takes to the street.
It’s not namecalling when your biases do come out. Why bother to play the race card? You make it too easy to call you a racist, when you’re spouting off Negro, white-Conservative mob, etc. You fail to see the contributions of African-Americans to our society and you dismiss them as nothing more than D or F students who only got a handout. You know there’s a lot more to your history you are missing intentionally…
You know who invented the traffic light? That’s right, Garrett Morgan, an African-American.
What about the gas mask that saved many of our troops against chemical warfare in WWI? That was Garrett Morgan…
Elijah McCoy who gave his name for the term “the Real McCoy”, oil-dripping cup for trains…
Lewis Lattimer who invented the carbon filament for light bulbs…
George Washington Carver who helped to rejuvenate the South’s economy with his plant products…
Madame C. J. Walker, a highly successful entrepeneur
tHE PACEMAKER? Otis Boykin
Dr. Patricia. E. Bath – pioneered a certain type of eye surgery
Live and die by your stereotypical portrait of the African-American…it’s not name-calling when we see it as such.
May 30th, 2009 at 1:10 amBy the way . . . President Bush had a nice Masters degree . . . didn’t see you applauding his educational achievements.
A real legacy student by the way…
May 30th, 2009 at 1:11 amOh my God, I think one of my ribs just snapped from laughing. Yeah, Regents is top-notch. They believe in the death penalty, but when practicing mock trials they refer to the sentence as “smiting”. In fact, the only issue I’ve ever heard about with Regents Law grads is that court stenographers sometimes complain about the “speaking in tongues”.
May 30th, 2009 at 1:00 pmFRED BARNES IS SUCH AN ASS!!!!!!!
May 31st, 2009 at 3:35 pmDon’t patronize me John…THE FACT is you still discredit their achievements, even if they were not the first.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:48 pmI certainly hope she did benefit. That was the entire point after all. And I fervently wish that she displaced a white male. One wonders how many classes Barnes made it through by social advancement.
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:35 amnicee
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 amsikis