Rove says that Gingrich’s demand for Sotomayor to withdraw is ‘premature,’ calls for a ‘respectful’ debate.
Rove says that Gingrich’s demand for Sotomayor to withdraw is ‘premature,’ calls for a ‘respectful’ debate.
Last night on The O’Reilly Factor, Karl Rove said that it was “premature” for former House Speaker Newt Gingrich to call for Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor to withdraw from her name from consideration. He then called for Republicans to engage with her “respectfully”:
ROVE: So I think Republicans need to take her on in the appropriate fashion, which is about her judicial philosophy, her record on the court, her writings and her statements. Particularly her statements. But they — and they need to do so with respect. We don’t need to engage with the Democrats did with Alito and Roberts or famously Bork with Ted Kennedy’s Bork’s America speech. They need to do it respectfully. And it needs to be over philosophy. Because Americans of all backgrounds believe that judges ought to be impartial umpires.
Watch it:
Rove, however, has done far more than just “respectfully” criticize Sotomayor’s judicial philosophy and statements. He has said that she is ruled by “emotion,” called her “sort of a schoolmarm,” and questioned her intelligence. Yesterday, Rove also said that he “got wind of” allegations that Sotomayor “was combative, opinionated, argumentative” while reviewing the record of her “colleague on the court” Samuel Alito. However, as Media Matters pointed out, Sotomayor served on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals; Alito served on the 3rd Circuit.
Transcript:
O’REILLY: Let me ask you this question then, because I haven’t been able to talk to the Speaker. We’re hoping to get him on tomorrow. Newt Gingrich is a smart guy. He’s a brilliant guy. And he may run for president next time around. Why would he say, just from a tactical political viewpoint, all right? Why would he say, hey, let’s go after this woman, saying she’s not qualified to serve on the court because of her previous statements about race? Why would he do that?
ROVE: Well, you’re going to have to ask him that. I do think it was maybe premature at least from the perspective of the American people. They’re just getting to know this person. And right now, we’re sort of in the celebrity stage of her introduction to the American people. It’s only through the course of the next several months when they hear such jarring comments like she made at Berkeley that cause people to naturally wince, that their minds might be open to that she’s potentially not qualified.
O’REILLY: Okay, because I’m trying to think of what tactical advantage the Republicans would get from saying to the nation look, this judge is not qualified for the Supreme Court because of her racial outlook. That’s going to be — not going to go over in the Hispanic American community, which as you know better than probably anybody else in this country is necessary for the Republican party to make a comeback.
ROVE: Yeah.
O’REILLY: They must peel off votes in there.
ROVE: Look. Yeah, look, I do believe it was premature to make that declaration. But on the other hand, let’s be clear about this. When the Democrats went after Miguel Estrada who President Bush nominated to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, the second highest court of the land, they went after him personally, viciously and consistently. Everybody from Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer.
O’REILLY: But what did I just say in my “Talking Points Memo” about that?
ROVE: But it didn’t hurt him with Hispanics. The media backed him up on it.
O’REILLY: Didn’t hurt, right.
ROVE: But also, remember, it did not hurt them ultimately with the Hispanic community. So I think Republicans need to take her on in the appropriate fashion, which is about her judicial philosophy, her record on the court, her writings and her statements. Particularly her statements. But they — and they need to do so with respect. We don’t need to engage with the Democrats did with Alito and Roberts or famously Bork with Ted Kennedy’s Bork’s America speech. They need to do it respectfully. And it needs to be over philosophy. Because Americans of all backgrounds believe that judges ought to be impartial umpires.
O’REILLY: Okay and I agree with that.
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(Rove) has said that she is ruled by “emotion,” called her “sort of a schoolmarm,” and questioned her intelligence.
– - Rove’s arguments have all the tensile strength of a cobweb.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:20 pmRove wants a ‘respectful’ debate. Why, Oh God, didn’t you strike him down? The last thing TurdBlossom is , is respectful.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:25 pmSpider silk is one of the strongest materials on the planet in tension; don’t give him too much credit.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:25 pmWe don’t need to engage with the Democrats did with Alito and Roberts or famously Bork with Ted Kennedy’s Bork’s America speech. They need to do it respectfully. And it needs to be over philosophy.
Please, someone (whose opinion I respect – that leaves out the trolls), correct me if I am mistaken, but wasn’t Ted Kennedy’s “Bork’s America” speech all about Bork’s philosophy?
May 29th, 2009 at 12:26 pmHas any one else noticed that Gingrich wants every one else (ie Nancy and Sonia) to do what he was forced to do…..step down.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:26 pmIts time to bring Mr. Rove in on his knowledge in the Mr. Siegelman case. Time for him to be brought to justice and stop being a talking head for the so-called media.
RIP
May 29th, 2009 at 12:27 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
oil-for-illegals … hmm … isn’t that what Iraq feared in 2003?
May 29th, 2009 at 12:29 pmRove has done the political math. For a while he computed that keeping the lunatic conservative base was more important than trying to keep Hispanics and women, so he was on the attack.
Now, someone clued him in that his lunatic base is never going to accept anyone not put forward by a Republican President (if we ever see one of those in my lifetime). Rove is playing the percentages and he now hopes they can dump her in such a way that they don’t alienate the two groups of voters they need to even be recognized as a party 10 years from now.
What poor old Rove fails to realize is that the conservative lunatics have infested or are pandered to by the Media and will not be shut-up.
All in all, an entertaining sideshow. Obama has found an easy way to deal with the Republicans; let them destroy themselves (just stand far enough away so you don’t get hit by flying pieces).
May 29th, 2009 at 12:31 pmYes, Wayne. And the debates over Alito and Roberts were the same — all about policy.
Seriously, WTF does Rove think they were attacked on? Being white men?
May 29th, 2009 at 12:31 pmSorry, meant “philosophy”, not “policy”.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:32 pmMore and more I am becoming convinced that the Pukes and the ‘tards on the Right are protesting So-So Sonia’s nomination to give her cred WITH THE LEFT.
She’s so obviously a corpoRat-friendly flack for the status quo that they could have chosen her themselves.
She’ll be utterly reliable on matters having to do with maintaining state power, restricting regulation, and corporate hegemony, even if she might flirt with ‘liberality’ at the extreme edges of the wedge issues…
May 29th, 2009 at 12:32 pm– - Rove’s arguments have all the tensile strength of a cobweb.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
gram for gram, spiders’ webs are far stronger than steel…
May 29th, 2009 at 12:34 pmSpider silk is one of the strongest materials on the planet in tension
– - I said a cobweb.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:34 pmThe Republicans just keep digging… That hole must be through the upper crust by now, and there’s no signs of them slowing down their efforts. LOL
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 pmAfter securing the limbs with butcher’s twine, roast puss-gut war-monger over direct heat grill until an instant read thermometer when inserted into the fattest area of war-monger (not near the knuckle-head) reads a minimum of 275 degrees F.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:36 pmLet war-monger rest for at least 20 minutes before carving and throwing slices into neighbor’s pig-trough.
I have assayed to expand my sentiments about the Rightard ‘attacks’ on So-So Sonia here.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:36 pmAttack! Apologize. Obfuscate. Attack! Back off. Attack! Call for respectful debate… repeat cycle. These guys are starting to remind me a lot of Saddam Hussein.
I occurs to me that FAUX is the only channel where he wouldn’t get laughed at for saying this.
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Wayne Ant Schneider Says:
Please, someone (whose opinion I respect – that leaves out the trolls), correct me if I am mistaken, but wasn’t Ted Kennedy’s “Bork’s America” speech all about Bork’s philosophy?
Well yes, all of the Dem criticisms of Bork were about his stated judicial philosophy. Absolutely none of it had to do with personal matters whatsoever. You may notice they never mentioned that facial hair once, even though they must have been really wanting to.
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sluggo Says:
Rove has done the political math. For a while he computed that keeping the lunatic conservative base was more important than trying to keep Hispanics and women, so he was on the attack.
Too late. It’s out there. Even if they all stopped right now, come next election, we’ve got more than enough ammo to remind Hispanics exactly how Republicans actually feel about them.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:38 pmIs this supposed to be news?
From the “About Think Progress” link below:
If you want news, $0, pick up a newspaper. They could use the 75 cents.
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Now, if Rove wants the Republicans to treat her with respect and question her judicial decisions, that’s what I think we all want. However, he has to set the example of respect. None of this “do as I say, not as I do” stuff.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:38 pmI wouldn’t build a building out of spider silk…
May 29th, 2009 at 12:39 pmI don’t think the worm has turned, but he may be hearing the growing backlash against the repugs. Yesterday Rove was denigrating Sotomayor, today he tells others to tone it down — apparently only he has the right to slander Sotomayor.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:39 pmWhy rats like him are interviewed daily by the media says as much about the media as it does about the rats themselves.
“Premature withdrawal”?
Gee, I sure wish RoverBoy and Little Newtie’s parents practiced that method of birth control. The world would be a better place today without either one of them in it.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:40 pmYou couln’t build an entire building out of any material that was only strong in tension…
May 29th, 2009 at 12:41 pmsluggo Says
May 29th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Rove has done the political math.
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And Rove still believes the average American’s attention span is only five minutes long, so he figures nobody will notice how many faces he has.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:42 pmthe best part of both of them ran down their mother’s leg
May 29th, 2009 at 12:46 pmwags Says: You couln’t build an entire building out of any material that was only strong in tension…
It was being compared it to steel – so my comment was in that context – not the whole building. I’ve designed enough of them to know how it works.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:46 pmwags Says
May 29th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
You couln’t build an entire building out of any material that was only strong in tension…
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Eh — you might get away with it IF you built it in a weightless environment (or if it was leak-free enough to keep inflated like a bounce house) and you didn’t mind a high degree of elasticity.
Come to think of it — elasticity seems to be an appropriate word for Rove’s position here.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:48 pmWhy is this criminal not in Jail?
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
May 29th, 2009 at 12:48 pmMay 29th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Touche, I’ll keep that in mind next time I design a space station :P
May 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pmI’m gonna stick up for badmoodman here; a cobweb is not the same thing as a spider web, to my mind. A cobweb is the remnant of a spider web, long since abandoned and left useless. It’s just a dust collector and easily swept away.
That seems to me to be a very good metaphor for a KKKarl Rove argument.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:51 pmwags Says: That’s what it sounded like, since you didn’t specify…
My mistake in assuming the context to the rest of the dialog was obvious. Didn’t think I needed to repeat what was already posted.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pmKeep in mind that Rove is an out-of-touch political moron (despite what the media believes). Rove actually believes that Sotomayor is bad and therefore he wants this debate to continue because (a) it wastes time, (b) it allows him and conservatives to continue attacking Obama and Democrats, and (c) he actually believes himself to be smart and in touch with the rest of America. If she is appointed or “steps down”, then they have to either look for a new bit of BS to criticize or come up with a new organized campaign and speaking points to spread around.
No. In Rove’s twisted world, it is much more beneficial to keep Sotomayor in the spotlight, but not confirmed a Judge, for as long as possible. That way the attacks can continue as long as possible and they will dominate the media for as long as possible.
May 29th, 2009 at 12:55 pmThe Republican Party hitched their wagon to fundamentalism – both in religion and politics. That movement has run it’s course and is now in decline. …………..
http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/28/the-rise-and-fall-of-20th-century-fundamentalism/
May 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pmHey, Rove! When does the respect start…?
May 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pmSo…KKKarl “Squealy” Rove is calling for “respectful debate”…?
YAY!! Let’s all fcuk for virginity!!!!
May 29th, 2009 at 1:00 pmunbelievable Says:
I wouldn’t build a building out of spider silk…
May 29th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
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Not with THAT attitude you won’t, missy! >:(
May 29th, 2009 at 1:02 pmunbelievable Says:
I wouldn’t build a building out of spider silk…
Maybe if the spider silk were several inches thick, you could use it to hold up structures…
May 29th, 2009 at 1:03 pmLeftside Annie Says:
YAY!! Let’s all fcuk for virginity!!!!
Well, if you insist. ;>
May 29th, 2009 at 1:06 pmFuture generations will wonder why we let traitors pontificate about our Supreme Court nominees.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:07 pmLuis Chapulin M Says:
Maybe if the spider silk were several inches thick, you could use it to hold up structures…
May 29th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
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Yeah, good luck getting it from the twenty-foot spider that produced it…
May 29th, 2009 at 1:07 pmunbelievable Says:
I wouldn’t build a building out of spider silk…
What if we rolled it into cables, then wove the cables into large sheets (like cloth or a rug), then laminated two or more sheets together, and used those?
We’ll neeed a LOT of spiders, though.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:09 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
you know where to find a 20′ spider?
I’d hate to have to swat the flies that guy eats.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:12 pmwags Says:
Touche, I’ll keep that in mind next time I design a space station :P
May 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Maybe that’s what happened to the spider that NASA lost in the ISS last fall. She’s not missing, she’s just building a new module!
May 29th, 2009 at 1:13 pmoilforillegals Says:
Normally, committing a crime is a good start.
Refusal to appear in response to a Congressional subpeona is a crime. Ever hear of Army-McCarthy?
May 29th, 2009 at 1:13 pmWhen KKKKKarl starts calling for decency and respectable, look to your hole card.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:15 pmIt’s a money decision for Rove. Supreme Court nominations are always an opportunity to rake a person over the coals, touch on every wedge issue, all to increase donations to the party. Rove wants this drawn out because it always gets the crazies (anti-choice, fundamentalists, paranoids) to write the check.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:15 pmwhat’s with this oilyillegal guy?
does he have a head injury or something?
do we need to call him a waaambulance?
fine, he’s a waaambulance
May 29th, 2009 at 1:17 pmoilforillegals Says:
Normally, committing a crime is a good start.
Then Karl has several good starts. The real key is having a legal system that is more concerned with the law than politics.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:19 pmoilforillegals Says:
Normally, committing a crime is a good start.
Check. What’s the next step?
May 29th, 2009 at 1:22 pmOh, great. Give the trolls something ELSE to be terrified of.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:31 pmThat’s right shitbag, you tell your stupidass club, lead them on with your closeted stinking bs.
If it weren’t for chimpy screwing up the dreadful chimpymanboy looong years in office I would swear the teabaggers are using stupid as a distraction; to keep the progressives off balanced. But chimpy and his scouts disproved that they were acting.
shitbag beleives he’s some “boy” genius. **chortle**
I don’t think it sunk in that CHIMPY/TEAGAGGERS/REPUGS/NEOCONS/KKK are reacting like terrorist against our UNITED STATES.
teabaggers will fall (you first roundboy) under the weight of their own bullshit…AGAIN.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:35 pmO’REILLY: Let me ask you this question then, because I haven’t been able to talk to the Speaker. We’re hoping to get him on tomorrow. Newt Gingrich is a smart guy. He’s a brilliant guy. And he may run for president next time around.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
May 29th, 2009 at 1:38 pmCOUGH COUGH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Rove is irrelevant even when he’s right.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:47 pmrove manipulates the right wingers because they are gullible and fearful
he doesn’t understand why fear tactics don’t work on liberals
May 29th, 2009 at 1:48 pmOh good, the newt is going to maybe run again…LOL..Yah! lets see how that works next time…The last time he won a race was because 63% of the voting public didn’t vote…Not likely to happen in this generation again..Then there’s all the cutsie little scandles everyone knows about now that no one knew about then…newt and rover belong in a cell together, rover for his crimes and newt to keep him company, unless they can con gannon ofcourse..P.B. & J
May 29th, 2009 at 2:07 pmIt appears that the biggest jack-asses of the GOP have suddenly realized that this line of attack could cost them hispanic voters. Plus, there is really nothing to gain by attacking her. Barring a Nanny or tax problem, she will win approval. Once again, Obama is playing tournement-level chess, while the GOP is playing “pick up sticks”.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:28 pmRealness Says:
It’s a money decision for Rove. Supreme Court nominations are always an opportunity to rake a person over the coals, touch on every wedge issue, all to increase donations to the party. Rove wants this drawn out because it always gets the crazies (anti-choice, fundamentalists, paranoids) to write the check.
Which are becoming fewer and fewer. The world has shifted for the repugs. The repug club won’t come back, chimpy saw to this.
If it weren’t so tragic it would be laughable that repugs are forcefully and deliberately trying to harm the US. What they tried in the last eight yrs wasn’t time enough for them to completely and totally destroy the US.
May 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pmPlease, someone (whose opinion I respect – that leaves out the trolls), correct me if I am mistaken, but wasn’t Ted Kennedy’s “Bork’s America” speech all about Bork’s philosophy?
Yep, it was.
http://www.thehamandlegsshow.com
May 29th, 2009 at 3:01 pmturd can’t tell the truth.
this big fat granny-pantie wearing, closeted liar. this is why the teabaggers are dumb and useless. For one, why compare a rational debate about chimpys nominations (flunkies, junkies and fools) to President Obama’s top of the line, logical nomination.
The more the teabaggers hate it the more we should know she’s the correct choice.
May 29th, 2009 at 3:05 pmI will say as I always do …. I read both sides arguments as an informed citizen should do. I also read the readers posts. I have got to give kudos to those peeps from theleft .. ya’ll sure know how to hate!! Without fail the readers from the left throw out more attack posts than any I have read from the right. Where do I get this “HATE” lesson plan?? The left is constantly calling the right intolerant or stupid or whatever …. Where does this level of hatred come from???
May 29th, 2009 at 5:58 pmLies and slander aren’t arguments. If you are considering them part of an argument, you’re not thinking clearly.
May 29th, 2009 at 6:31 pmgivemelibertyordeath Says:
Might I suggest checking out the level of hatred on right-wing sites as well? The hatred coming from those sites is pretty bad, as well. Heck, turn on Fox News at some point during the day, and you’ll get some pretty vile things spewed by their commentators alone.
Just a suggestion.
Besides, we’re not all that bad until someone decides to go totally Limbaugh in here.
May 29th, 2009 at 8:15 pmgivemelibertyordeath Says:
I will say as I always do …. I read both sides arguments as an informed citizen should do. I also read the readers posts.
You read good. Gold star give you for reading the readers.
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givemelibertyordeath Says:
I have got to give kudos to those peeps from theleft .. ya’ll sure know how to hate!!
Responded to this earlier, you loathesome pig scum. Go die in a ditch.
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givemelibertyordeath Says:
Where does this level of hatred come from???
Mostly republicanshatefacts and EugeneDebs, but I try to do my part as well.
May 29th, 2009 at 9:35 pmRepublicans literally have no souls. They just keep slinging hate-tinged mud and see how it polls. If the polls say it’s not playing wel, they tone it down a bit and wait for another chance or try other angles.
Absolutely nothing they do has any basis in concern for the American people or principles.
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