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	<title>Comments on: Right-wing hate reacts to murder of Dr. George Tiller.</title>
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		<title>By: Chatlesin</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/31/tiller-murder/comment-page-8/#comment-5675785</link>
		<dc:creator>Chatlesin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: terapi</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/31/tiller-murder/comment-page-8/#comment-5674792</link>
		<dc:creator>terapi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>terapi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/31/tiller-murder/comment-page-8/#comment-5674470</link>
		<dc:creator>doktorgizemli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/31/tiller-murder/comment-page-8/#comment-5672907</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more with comment # 355. The liberal way of thinking is what will lead us to destruction. If you do not preserve what is most precious &quot;Life&quot;, and the Love of your neighbor, what else is there for Humans to live for? Our right to live is the most fundamental of rights, but this right is taken away from the unborn children. Pro choicers don&#039;t care about women, because if they did, they would be aware of the numerous studies that have been done on the profound psychological impacts on women that have undergone an abortion. They neither care for children, if they did, their conscience would echo what Christ himself said, &quot;Let the children come to me, it is for such as these that the kingdom of my father belongs to.&quot; The ones that support or perform abortions should repent for their GRAVE sins. The Eternal Judge is watching...</description>
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		<title>By: GRiLL</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/31/tiller-murder/comment-page-8/#comment-5672560</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rachel madcow</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/31/tiller-murder/comment-page-8/#comment-5672334</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel madcow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What I find amusing is that Liberals, especiallu in these posts, can say whatever they want and get away with it yet if I make a valid point, my post gets removed. That sure is conveinent! Now back to the matter at hand... &lt;/strong&gt;


Again more lies and Propaganda. If anyone is to blame for promoting hate and murder, it is you left wing liberals nuts that were so glad that you had a reason to further your cause, that you don&#039;t even care how much you exploit this Doctor&#039;s death by running it in the news every second of every day and you will continue this for months preaching your hatred of conservatives and BLAMING them for EVERYTHING! No one encouraged the murder of this doctor. No one encouraged the Murder of an innocent Soldier in Arkansas by a Muslim Terrorist but Liberals do put Terrorists first, being the Terrorist-Sympathizers that they innately are. Why the criminal was released in the first place when he was captured in &#039;05 with all kinds of weapons and a Sawed-off shotgun whoch is a felony, is amazing!. How could a guy like this, get felony charges dropped so easily? It wasn&#039;t a conservative that got him off and  these Liberal laws that liberals have passed over the decades give more rights to the Criminals than the victims! This murder of the Soldier in Arkansas was by a black Muslim and it should have been avoided because he should have been behind bars but NO! Liberals and their Criminal-Sympathetic BS get all these types of criminals off. Liberal created laws and a Liberal Prosecutor, Defense Lawyer and Judge got this Terrorist off and he was then permitted to Kill a US Soldier in broad daylight. That is fact. Not some BS made up propaganda made up like this BS that conservatives got this Abortion Doc killed. You liberals kill &quot;life to be&quot; and then spend money to save rhodents and any other creatures you think are cute. Get a conscience. You liberals don&#039;t care about woman, children or humane rights unless you have something to gain politically from it. Otherwise, you would be glad people aren&#039;t being tortured nor women and children being murdered and shunned into a life of bare existence since Saddam&#039;s was taken out. You don&#039;t seem to care about those people that the War has helped liberate and live yet you claim you care about tehse things when politically advantageous. I guess because you can only gain politically by mentioning Americans struggles in the War but not ANY progress that came out of it. Disgraceful unconscionable people you Liberals are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What I find amusing is that Liberals, especiallu in these posts, can say whatever they want and get away with it yet if I make a valid point, my post gets removed. That sure is conveinent! Now back to the matter at hand&#8230; </strong></p>
<p>Again more lies and Propaganda. If anyone is to blame for promoting hate and murder, it is you left wing liberals nuts that were so glad that you had a reason to further your cause, that you don&#8217;t even care how much you exploit this Doctor&#8217;s death by running it in the news every second of every day and you will continue this for months preaching your hatred of conservatives and BLAMING them for EVERYTHING! No one encouraged the murder of this doctor. No one encouraged the Murder of an innocent Soldier in Arkansas by a Muslim Terrorist but Liberals do put Terrorists first, being the Terrorist-Sympathizers that they innately are. Why the criminal was released in the first place when he was captured in &#8216;05 with all kinds of weapons and a Sawed-off shotgun whoch is a felony, is amazing!. How could a guy like this, get felony charges dropped so easily? It wasn&#8217;t a conservative that got him off and  these Liberal laws that liberals have passed over the decades give more rights to the Criminals than the victims! This murder of the Soldier in Arkansas was by a black Muslim and it should have been avoided because he should have been behind bars but NO! Liberals and their Criminal-Sympathetic BS get all these types of criminals off. Liberal created laws and a Liberal Prosecutor, Defense Lawyer and Judge got this Terrorist off and he was then permitted to Kill a US Soldier in broad daylight. That is fact. Not some BS made up propaganda made up like this BS that conservatives got this Abortion Doc killed. You liberals kill &#8220;life to be&#8221; and then spend money to save rhodents and any other creatures you think are cute. Get a conscience. You liberals don&#8217;t care about woman, children or humane rights unless you have something to gain politically from it. Otherwise, you would be glad people aren&#8217;t being tortured nor women and children being murdered and shunned into a life of bare existence since Saddam&#8217;s was taken out. You don&#8217;t seem to care about those people that the War has helped liberate and live yet you claim you care about tehse things when politically advantageous. I guess because you can only gain politically by mentioning Americans struggles in the War but not ANY progress that came out of it. Disgraceful unconscionable people you Liberals are.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5672334', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: greenglass1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, the &quot;pro-life&quot; movement is anything BUT pro-life, and are simply anti-abortion. Most of what the people I&#039;ve met who are against abortion subscribe to could be described as pro-death. This situation is a perfect example of the bloody mindset these people harbor. The frightening thing is that these people are so blinded by their fanaticism they aren&#039;t able to think reasonably about their beliefs. This is why fundamentalism can be so very dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, the &#8220;pro-life&#8221; movement is anything BUT pro-life, and are simply anti-abortion. Most of what the people I&#8217;ve met who are against abortion subscribe to could be described as pro-death. This situation is a perfect example of the bloody mindset these people harbor. The frightening thing is that these people are so blinded by their fanaticism they aren&#8217;t able to think reasonably about their beliefs. This is why fundamentalism can be so very dangerous.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5668678', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark701</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to read through all these comments but decided not to, I&#039;m sure many present logical arguments that point out the hypocrisy and insanity of radical pro-lifers. The reason I won&#039;t is because nothing I say will affect or influence people who subtly or directly incite hatred and violence to such a degree that someone is murdered as a result.

There is no reasoning with zealots or terrorists, there is no compromising, no common ground and no reason to hope that killers like Roeder or their cheerleaders like Operation Rescue will ever change thier ways. Insanity has a logic of it&#039;s own that cannot be penetrated with reason and common sense. 

These thugs have declared war on the American people and we would be well advised to declare war on them. Anyone who incites or encourages violence should be tried in a court of law. Miscreants like Operation Rescue should be held directly responsible and charged with terrorism under the RICO Act, their oganization gutted and their leaders imprisoned. These are violent, dangerous people who commit murder and, as such, have no rights other than the right to trial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to read through all these comments but decided not to, I&#8217;m sure many present logical arguments that point out the hypocrisy and insanity of radical pro-lifers. The reason I won&#8217;t is because nothing I say will affect or influence people who subtly or directly incite hatred and violence to such a degree that someone is murdered as a result.</p>
<p>There is no reasoning with zealots or terrorists, there is no compromising, no common ground and no reason to hope that killers like Roeder or their cheerleaders like Operation Rescue will ever change thier ways. Insanity has a logic of it&#8217;s own that cannot be penetrated with reason and common sense. </p>
<p>These thugs have declared war on the American people and we would be well advised to declare war on them. Anyone who incites or encourages violence should be tried in a court of law. Miscreants like Operation Rescue should be held directly responsible and charged with terrorism under the RICO Act, their oganization gutted and their leaders imprisoned. These are violent, dangerous people who commit murder and, as such, have no rights other than the right to trial.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5666938', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: loxias</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sikis21.net&quot; title=&quot;sikis&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sikis&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: sesli</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Franciscan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ralph the wonder locust says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;I would think the fact that one is in the womb and the other is out of the womb would be a pretty big tip-off&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So… you concede, then, that the only difference between the two is their location? If, so, are you willing to concede that there is no difference between taking the life of an unborn baby and the life of one who has already entered into the world?


ralph the wonder locust says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ah, I see... it&#039;s the &quot;sci-fi future determines today&#039;s legal parameters&quot; argument. Excellent. We haven&#039;t seen one of those around here for a long time&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At the time of Roe versus wade, it was unthinkable that a baby could survive outside the womb at just 22 weeks of age. Any practicing physician, at that time, would have described such a possibility as in the realm of “Sci-fi Future. Yet, in 2007, it has became a reality. Sandra Day O’Conner’s concern has proven to be a valid one. However, I noticed that you tactfully avoided the obvious implication of her stated concern!


ralph the wonder locust says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;And we move on to the &quot;slippery slope&quot; argument. A bona fide virtuoso of specious arguments, you are, my friend.

Tell you what -- when the pro-choice lobby lines up behind baby farming for the purpose of harvesting organs, then you&#039;ll have a valid point. Until then, you&#039;re just hysterical&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Past and present human behavior is often an indicator of future human behavior… wouldn’t you agree? In countries where a concern for the “sanctity of life” has no bearing on human behavior, the harvesting of human organs from unwilling subjects has already been documented (Google: “harvesting human organs”).  In the case of China, the State has given its tacit approval of such practices. In the United States we have engaged in the routine practice of killing human embryos in order to extract their stem cells for research purposes, exclusively. The scientific means for farming human embryos was established in 2001 (Google: Therapeutic Cloning). The Bush administration was so concerned with the prospect of fetal farming that they passed   &quot;Fetus Farming Prohibition Act of 2006.&quot; The Obama administration seems intent on overturning the legal obstacles to fetal farming http://www.lifenews.com/bio2851.html. Now, where do you think that the pro-choice lobby will line up on the issue of therapeutic cloning? Specious argument? I think not. History is replete with evidence which demonstrates that wherever there is a fundamental disregard for the sanctity of human life, gross violations of human dignity occur; whether they are in communist China or the US of A. Hysterical? If speaking out in defense of human dignity is hysterical then, I wear your brand proudly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ralph the wonder locust says:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I would think the fact that one is in the womb and the other is out of the womb would be a pretty big tip-off</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So… you concede, then, that the only difference between the two is their location? If, so, are you willing to concede that there is no difference between taking the life of an unborn baby and the life of one who has already entered into the world?</p>
<p>ralph the wonder locust says:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Ah, I see&#8230; it&#8217;s the &#8220;sci-fi future determines today&#8217;s legal parameters&#8221; argument. Excellent. We haven&#8217;t seen one of those around here for a long time</em></p></blockquote>
<p>At the time of Roe versus wade, it was unthinkable that a baby could survive outside the womb at just 22 weeks of age. Any practicing physician, at that time, would have described such a possibility as in the realm of “Sci-fi Future. Yet, in 2007, it has became a reality. Sandra Day O’Conner’s concern has proven to be a valid one. However, I noticed that you tactfully avoided the obvious implication of her stated concern!</p>
<p>ralph the wonder locust says:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And we move on to the &#8220;slippery slope&#8221; argument. A bona fide virtuoso of specious arguments, you are, my friend.</p>
<p>Tell you what &#8212; when the pro-choice lobby lines up behind baby farming for the purpose of harvesting organs, then you&#8217;ll have a valid point. Until then, you&#8217;re just hysterical</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Past and present human behavior is often an indicator of future human behavior… wouldn’t you agree? In countries where a concern for the “sanctity of life” has no bearing on human behavior, the harvesting of human organs from unwilling subjects has already been documented (Google: “harvesting human organs”).  In the case of China, the State has given its tacit approval of such practices. In the United States we have engaged in the routine practice of killing human embryos in order to extract their stem cells for research purposes, exclusively. The scientific means for farming human embryos was established in 2001 (Google: Therapeutic Cloning). The Bush administration was so concerned with the prospect of fetal farming that they passed   &#8220;Fetus Farming Prohibition Act of 2006.&#8221; The Obama administration seems intent on overturning the legal obstacles to fetal farming <a href="http://www.lifenews.com/bio2851.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifenews.com/bio2851.html</a>. Now, where do you think that the pro-choice lobby will line up on the issue of therapeutic cloning? Specious argument? I think not. History is replete with evidence which demonstrates that wherever there is a fundamental disregard for the sanctity of human life, gross violations of human dignity occur; whether they are in communist China or the US of A. Hysterical? If speaking out in defense of human dignity is hysterical then, I wear your brand proudly<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5666360', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: halqeye</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if Frank Schaeffer feels culpable in the murder of Tiller, it still does not rise to the level of conspiracy.  Saying it does over and over does not change that.  If calling someone a murderer means that if someone kills that person you are also guilty, then many people on the left should be worried.  Again shouting out isms just like you say the right is doing does not make them true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if Frank Schaeffer feels culpable in the murder of Tiller, it still does not rise to the level of conspiracy.  Saying it does over and over does not change that.  If calling someone a murderer means that if someone kills that person you are also guilty, then many people on the left should be worried.  Again shouting out isms just like you say the right is doing does not make them true.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5666073', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: panther47</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This certainly smells like conspiracy to me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/how-i-and-other-pro-life_b_209747.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This certainly smells like conspiracy to me.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/how-i-and-other-pro-life_b_209747.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/how-i-and-other-pro-life_b_209747.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5666050', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: halqeye</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Churches calling for punishment against abortionists, let me say that as an Elder in my Church, I would stand up and demand anyone saying such or for that matter being political in any way, from the pulpit step down.  I have never witnessed any such activity nor have I ever heard of any except for certain Dems whom always seem to be invited to speak without any fear of backlash. It always puzzles me that everyone who speaks of this happening usually is not aware of the real workings in most mainline evangelical churches.  Yes there may be fringe 
churches that I am sure teach this but it is far from mainstream.  But also note that fringe teachings can come from both sides of the isle as in Rev. Wright for example</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Churches calling for punishment against abortionists, let me say that as an Elder in my Church, I would stand up and demand anyone saying such or for that matter being political in any way, from the pulpit step down.  I have never witnessed any such activity nor have I ever heard of any except for certain Dems whom always seem to be invited to speak without any fear of backlash. It always puzzles me that everyone who speaks of this happening usually is not aware of the real workings in most mainline evangelical churches.  Yes there may be fringe<br />
churches that I am sure teach this but it is far from mainstream.  But also note that fringe teachings can come from both sides of the isle as in Rev. Wright for example<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5666026', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: halqeye</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I may have to &quot;OOPS&quot; on the recruiting office story.  When I went back to read it again it has been taken down.  Will check again later.  

     I listen to O&#039;Reilly from time to time.  Have heard him talk about Tiller several times.  Never...Never...Never have I heard O&#039;Reilly call for violence against Tiller, or anyone else for that matter.  If by asking that he be investigated for possible law violations you are saying that he incited someone to violent behavior, then many had better be praying that no one very commits a violent crime against G. W. Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I may have to &#8220;OOPS&#8221; on the recruiting office story.  When I went back to read it again it has been taken down.  Will check again later.  </p>
<p>     I listen to O&#8217;Reilly from time to time.  Have heard him talk about Tiller several times.  Never&#8230;Never&#8230;Never have I heard O&#8217;Reilly call for violence against Tiller, or anyone else for that matter.  If by asking that he be investigated for possible law violations you are saying that he incited someone to violent behavior, then many had better be praying that no one very commits a violent crime against G. W. Bush.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5666010', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: panther47</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just have to tie it together in a case. It only takes two for a conspiracy. It is up to the courts to decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just have to tie it together in a case. It only takes two for a conspiracy. It is up to the courts to decide.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5666003', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: panther47</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill O&#039;Reilly&#039;s TV interviews are plenty of evidence. Also the churches continually calling for the punishment of abortionist&#039;s. To me on the surface the seems to be plenty of evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s TV interviews are plenty of evidence. Also the churches continually calling for the punishment of abortionist&#8217;s. To me on the surface the seems to be plenty of evidence.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5666000', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: halqeye</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panther 47
what evidence is there for comspiracy charges?  The murderer of Tiller is a criminal for sure.  But everyone still has the right to their opinion and unless there is evidence that the killer and Bill O&#039;Reilly actually planned this murder it would not reach the high bar of evidence.  You do not know if this man even watched Bill O&#039;Reilly.  Please do not let your hatred of someone you disagree with push your argument to this level.
   I fear that the backlash of this crime will be horrific.  Strange though I am not seeing any reporting of the gunning down of two Army Combat Vets outside a recruiting office possibly by antiwar protesters today.  Would this not be along the same lines just on the opposite side of the fence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panther 47<br />
what evidence is there for comspiracy charges?  The murderer of Tiller is a criminal for sure.  But everyone still has the right to their opinion and unless there is evidence that the killer and Bill O&#8217;Reilly actually planned this murder it would not reach the high bar of evidence.  You do not know if this man even watched Bill O&#8217;Reilly.  Please do not let your hatred of someone you disagree with push your argument to this level.<br />
   I fear that the backlash of this crime will be horrific.  Strange though I am not seeing any reporting of the gunning down of two Army Combat Vets outside a recruiting office possibly by antiwar protesters today.  Would this not be along the same lines just on the opposite side of the fence?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5665992', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: panther47</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/31/tiller-murder/comment-page-7/#comment-5665943</link>
		<dc:creator>panther47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely there would be enough evidence for getting Bill O&#039;Reilly and the Catholic Church on conspiracy charges for murder alone. Leaving out all the child rape cases around the world. Two of which were in my street. One already settled out of court for a massive payout of well over a million dollars. (They were sisters). So why so slow with the conspiracy charges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely there would be enough evidence for getting Bill O&#8217;Reilly and the Catholic Church on conspiracy charges for murder alone. Leaving out all the child rape cases around the world. Two of which were in my street. One already settled out of court for a massive payout of well over a million dollars. (They were sisters). So why so slow with the conspiracy charges?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5665943', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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