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Kurtz ’surprised’ that O’Reilly ‘didn’t issue a ringing denunciation’ of the Tiller shooting.

As ThinkProgress has noted, soon after new broke about the murder of Dr. George Tiller, Salon’s Gabriel Winant and The Atlantic’s Andrew Sullivan quickly pointed out that Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly had demonized Tiller for years with harsh, aggressive rhetoric. On his show last night, O’Reilly briefly said that “Americans should condemn the murder of Dr. George Tiller” before launching into an extended defense of his demonization of Tiller. “No backpedaling here,” said O’Reilly. Watch it:

In his Media Notes column today, Washington Post media reporter Howard Kurtz writes that “O’Reilly is entitled to defend himself,” but adds that he is “surprised that, along with his reminder that Tiller had been called a baby killer, O’Reilly didn’t issue a ringing denunciation of the shooting and anyone who thought it was justified. The occasion, in my view, called for it; he chose a different approach.”



137 Responses to “Kurtz ’surprised’ that O’Reilly ‘didn’t issue a ringing denunciation’ of the Tiller shooting.”

  1. raynman says:

    Fear and smear

    The ethics of the Republican Party


  2. Marie says:

    Bill-o denounce an act he encouraged, if not advocated – much less acccept any responsibility?


  3. DNFP says:

    The NASCAR crowd really ain’t too bright, is they?


  4. mk3872 says:

    This is because O’Reilly and his conservative brethern are demagoging the issue of “right to life”.

    He and his ilk approve of murder for doctors and workers in these clinics, the death penalty and war.

    Someone like myself who supports a woman’s right to choose and opposes war and the death penalty show more “right to life” than this moron.


  5. Keith H. says:

    Billy’s one sick puppy.
    Too bad it’s not distemper.


  6. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    On his show last night, O’Reilly briefly said that “Americans should condemn the murder of Dr. George Tiller”

    The right-wing does not understand that incitement to kill is a crime, too. Charles Manson didn’t kill anyone himself, he just used his words to incite other people to kill for him. In this sense, O’Reilly is just like Manson.

    Go ahead and quote me on your show that 1% of the country watches, Bill.


  7. raynman says:

    Apparently, your ‘right to life’ begins when you agree with Bill O’Reilly….


  8. NoMoreBush says:

    I do not think O-Reilly’s rant against Dr. Tiller rises to the level of incitement to commit a crime and that, legally, therefore, he would not be criminally culpable. Having said that, you would think someone in the mainstream media (and his bosses at Fox) would self-edit the over-the-top and hyperbolic rhetoric. It really is amazing that some of his statements are allowed. I think we all know that in a responsible organization they would not be permitted. Also, O’Reilly is simply wrong in his defense that he was only “reporting” the facts. His rhetoric refutes that absolutely. That statement was laughable on its face.


  9. Williams in Texas says:

    Terrorism – The calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious
    No matter the religion, political party or country it is still terrorism.
    In Texas some of the religious are so extreme that they believe that the other churches congregation will go to hell because they are not part of their church.
    The Bible was written by man and is to this day being used to instill fear in their congregations. For every quote they use to justify violence, there is a quote the detest it. Shame on them and I would love to be a fly on the cloud when they meet their maker.


  10. Badmoodman says:

    Kurtz ’surprised’ that O’Reilly ‘didn’t issue a ringing denunciation’ of the Tiller shooting.

    – - Surprised? Hell, I’d have been surprised if O’Reilly HAD denounced the killing. And Kurtz is a media watchdog? What media is he watching because it sure isn’t Fox.


  11. InsertNameHere says:

    Funny, I don’t see a media uproar over the shooting of a military recruiter.

    The same argument can be made that a fervent (yet unsuccessful) anti-war campaign motivated him to kill American soldiers.


  12. Lora says:

    It is distemper, Keith. At least with feline distemper, those that survive usually end up with grumpy, testy personalities, similar to Mr. O’Liely.

    Keith H. Says:
    Billy’s one sick puppy.
    Too bad it’s not distemper


  13. RantingTommy says:

    yes waffling chicken, religious nuts come in all flavors

    religion is a mental disease and compassionate humans are compelled to help cure those afflicted with it


  14. RantingTommy says:

    InsertNameHere Says:

    Funny, I don’t see a media uproar over the shooting of a military recruiter.

    The same argument can be made that a fervent (yet unsuccessful) anti-war campaign motivated him to kill American soldiers.

    name the TV personality that called out the recruiter BY NAME as a mass murderer for 3 years and said “he should be stopped”

    you can’t?

    O yeah, you’re a lying right winger trying to change the subject


  15. NoMoreBush says:

    As to the military recruiter – please cite to the history of recruiting office bombings and murders of recruiters by Iraq war protesters to support of your false comparison.


  16. Leftside Annie says:

    If he is “surprised” that Billo didn’t do the right thing, he’s a very stupid man.


  17. smidget says:

    @InsertNameHere
    A much more realistic argument can be made that the torture and abuse of prisoners and the way the US has been treating Muslims in the last few years motivated him to kill American soldiers.

    Find me someone who calls soldiers acting under orders “murderers” and I’ll show you someone who is just as guilty as people who call doctors “baby killers.”

    See, people like you think that you’ve got the left in a “gotcha” moment when you point out that there are crazy people from all walks of life, but you forget one important point – we want all bad people to pay for the crimes, political affiliation notwithstanding. We don’t march in lockstep like some others, and we don’t excuse horrific acts of violence because they agree with us politically.

    Also, you’re insanely off-topic.


  18. hotelal says:

    Why does anyone even pay attention to this old man.. he is nothing but a bitter hateful old man!!!


  19. RantingTommy says:

    pimped out Says:

    NoMoreBush Says

    That bds still getting to ya? Pretty sad…..

    BDS? Bush Derangement Syndrome? O yeah, that’s when someone is so scared and ignorant that they look to the former male cheerleader (look it up) for protection from the scary brown man in the cave on the other side of the world

    BDS is strong in you right wing sissies, so obsessed with protecting Bush’s reputation that you revise history and ignore facts


  20. RantingTommy says:

    pimped out Says:

    name the TV personality that called out the recruiter BY NAME

    Did he happen to mention he was a muslim??????

    so? lots of people have religious delusions and believe in a magic man in the sky

    you are making the point that religion is silly superstition and should be ignored or ridiculed?

    I agree


  21. Buckie Boy says:

    Billo the Falafel pervert is partly responsible for this murder.

    Plus, the lies he spread are too big to be ignored.

    “60,000 babies killed”

    Now I know the conservatives are too stupid and blind to use logic to add that up.

    Equals one baby an hour, eight hours a day for 25 years.

    Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party


  22. wiley says:

    When there is a movement threatening bodily harm to recruiters, we’ll talk.


  23. wiley says:

    I’ll be on the recruiter’s side.


  24. smidget says:

    pimped says:
    Did he happen to mention he was a muslim??????

    wtf does that have to do with anything?

    Also, how about you try to come back to this thread. You are WAY off topic.


  25. RantingTommy says:

    O$ is making a dishonest comparison

    we point out that there is no TV show calling for the “stopping” of a specific recruiter and O$ turns that into “defending terrorists”

    defending terrorists is what people do when they make excuses for Cheney


  26. The Truth says:

    chicken and waffles,
    The shooter of the Army Recruiting station is Muslim. Progressives support Muslim causes so they will not condemn this act. In fact most here at Think Progress supports the cats of this man. Don’t hold your breath and expect to see any anger over the shooting.

    Muslims don’t do anything wrong in the eyes of Progressives.They view Islam as a hip Revolutionary movement by the Left.


  27. The Truth says:

    obamawipe$,
    In the minds of Progressives, Muslims do no wrong. Muslims could massacre Millions and the Left would support them.


  28. smidget says:

    obamawipe$

    No, I’m not defending him.

    And the killer is a American from Nashville who’s given name was Carlos Bledsoe.

    Fcuking moron.


  29. Dirty Hippie says:

    How is this any different than kids allowed a steady diet of violent video games that act out on the fantasies inspired by them?

    You talk sh*t like this and sooner or later some nutbag thinks it’s a good idea. It is incitement to domestic terrorism.


  30. The Truth says:

    smidget,
    He changed his name to an islamic one went to Yemen and followed the commands of his religion in fighting non believers.


  31. RantingTommy says:

    truth is a binary thinker

    he doesn’t have the brain power to know that sometimes BOTH sides are wrong

    if both sides are religious, they are almost ALWAYS wrong

    religion is poison


  32. fletc3her says:

    It is surprising the O’Reilly didn’t denounce the killer, but why would he? I certainly hope that law enforcement will look into whether O’Reilly’s on-air comments amount to an inducement to murder this family doctor.


  33. RantingTommy says:

    religion, including Islam and Christianity are bogus social control mechanisms that use fear and ignorance to further their agendas

    they are both terrorism, by definition

    your straw man is falling apart, you ignorant right wing sissies


  34. smidget says:

    Truth

    So he’s less an American, then? Got it.


  35. mymoon says:

    obamawipe$ Says:

    two AMERICANS!
    The doctor was also an American and both murders are born Americans and both crazy religious nut jobs!


  36. RantingTommy says:

    ok, you right wingers

    religious terrorism, whether committed by Muslims or Christians, is wrong and based on ignorant fantasy

    next


  37. Evil Spaniard says:

    Religion is just another excuse for murderers to kill.


  38. wiley says:

    Bledsoe is from Little Rock, Arkansas.

    Fun fact:

    North Little Rock, Arkansas has a violent crime rate of 1248 incidents per 100,000 people. This compares with a rate of 875 in Arkansas and a rate of 596 nationally. Lower numbers are better, indicating that fewer crimes happen per person in the population.

    link

    Guess Arkansas is considerably more “liberal” than the rest of the country all of a sudden.


  39. spring heeled jack says:

    The US has bombed and invaded two Muslim countries and killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims and tortured and maimed and humiliated even more–isn’t that enough for you sickos?


  40. shoeless says:

    RantingTommy Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    your straw man is falling apart, you ignorant right wing sissies

    Why are they trying so hard to deflect attention away from the right-wing terrorist? Perhaps some of them are also right-wing terrorists.


  41. smidget says:

    Thank you, Tommy.

    I don’t support religion, because it’s a delusion, but the idea that “if a Muslim does it, it’s okay by the left” is so completely stupid, it’s hard to argue it because it lacks so much in coherence. Excuse us for not thinking that someone who believs in the Islamic faith is automatically unAmerican or a terrorist. That doesn’t mean they can get away with whatever they want. The same is true of people of all faiths. Your religion doesn’t matter. You are still subject to the same laws, you ignorant clods.



  42. smidget says:

    wiley

    He moved to Little Rock from Nashville. But the point remains.


  43. backup says:

    Kurtz is right. O’Reilly’s rhetoric was over-the-top. Instead of trying to defend his comments and attacks of Tiller, the main message should have been that, although you may disagree with someone, violence is not the answer.

    Missed opportunity. And the lack of forceful denunciation leaves you wondering how objectionable he finds the assassination.


  44. wiley says:

    Why are they calling the guy who shot the recruiters a liberal?


  45. RantingTommy says:

    shoeless Says:

    RantingTommy Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    your straw man is falling apart, you ignorant right wing sissies

    Why are they trying so hard to deflect attention away from the right-wing terrorist? Perhaps some of them are also right-wing terrorists.

    they think it’s ok to kill in the name of jeebus, but not in the name of allah

    why are atheists the most peaceful people? is it because we don’t have invisible friends that tell us to kill?


  46. RWeSafer says:

    Lots of threads being hijacked lately (especially).

    It seems to drag everyone off topic…

    We are bound to have terrible repercussions from the fomenting of violence and hatred by “the entertainers,” claiming it wasn’t their fault. They do harbor responsibility. Can they be charged with a crime?


  47. ElBruce says:

    I bet in the middle East, the Taliban wingnuts over there accuse their liberals of being Cheney-lovers…


  48. smidget says:

    “They” has been limited to neocon posters on liberal blog posts that I have seen so far.

    There are obvious political motivations. The man is Muslim (a convert, but a follower of the faith nonetheless). Clearly he shouldn’t have shot people, but it’s not hard to figure out some possibilities as to why. Apparently “they” still think that only the left is anti-war, and have been systematically ignoring the surveys showing that fully 2/3 up to 3/4 of Americans are against the continuance of the war in Iraq.


  49. EugeneDebs says:

    A$$wipe havent you killed yourself yet. My GOD you worthless piece of filth how long are you going to stink up our good world get to it. Take your worthless ignorant A$$ out to the garage and do the right thing


  50. DNFP says:

    hotelal Says:

    Why does anyone even pay attention to this old man.. he is nothing but a bitter hateful old man!!!

    Really dumb as hell people who think Inside Edition is a valid, trustworthy “news” outlet, and a heckuva place to earn your “credibility as a journalist”.


  51. shoeless says:

    wiley Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Why are they calling the guy who shot the recruiters a liberal?

    Because they are desperate to deflect attention away from yet another in the growing list of right-wing terrorists.


  52. spring heeled jack says:

    Someone beside Olbermann and liberal bloggers has to stand up to O’Reilly. It’s too easy for him to peddle his paranoia of far-left, Soros-backed, smear merchants.


  53. NoMoreBush says:

    Pimped out — nO BDS — just too lazy to change my handle — that you are still a loyal Bushie after all that has transpired really says more about you than me.


  54. EugeneDebs says:

    I see the cowardly punkass trolls are working it hard to change the subje t. LOOK OVER THERE. or over there. Lets look SOMEWHERE ELSE and talk about ANYTHING ELSE. Ram it up your tarholes TROLLS. Talk about the topic or STFU


  55. DNFP says:

    And the lack of forceful denunciation leaves you wondering how objectionable he finds the assassination.

    Speak for yourself moron.

    In fact, you should just continue the conversation inside your head, where you might find someone who gives shit…


  56. DNFP says:

    obamawipe$ Says:

    Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad

    Take your adoration to Redstate with the other America hating inbreds LIKE YOU.


  57. Fred says:

    chicken and waffles,
    The shooter of the Army Recruiting station is Muslim

    Proving that fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here is fallacy.


  58. ElBruce says:

    chicken and waffles Says:

    Will there be 6 or 8 posts about whatever else I demand TP report on? Will I ever figure out how to navigate to web sites that have news items I’m interested in reading about instead of going to this one and whining that it has different content?

    Fixed that for ya.

    .

    The Truth Says:

    chicken and waffles,
    The shooter of the Army Recruiting station is Muslim. Progressives support Muslim causes so they will not condemn this act.

    I condemn that act.

    However, progressives have not been targeting military recruiters as being murderers. If they had, you’d be right to demand some backpedaling. So it’s not even remotely a valid comparison.

    Why don’t I hear you or c&w talking about the subject of this thread? Do you or do you not condemn Tiller’s murder?


  59. wiley says:

    Oh. Tennessee fun fact:

    The crime rate in Tennessee is about 23% higher than the national average rate. Property crimes account for around 84.4% of the crime rate in Tennessee which is 20% higher than the national rate. The remaining 20.2% are violent crimes and are about 38% higher than other states.

    link

    Tennesse is a liberal dystopia.


  60. harrison says:

    O’Reilly stated facts about Tiller and you want to use your emotions to counter them? This is why all “progressives” are failures. Tiller killed babies for money: the root of all evil,..remember? That Tiller was still allowed into his church is a stain on that church. But there was no need to kill Tiller if the white folk (it’s not the inner cities getting abortions) would just take responsibility and not get pregnant.


  61. DNFP says:

    Funny how you off the chart far lefties never gave the man that shot the baby killer the same “possibilities as to why” defense.

    Dipshit, that’s because we know why.

    O’Reilly enabled the killing.

    PERIOD.


  62. smidget says:

    obamawipe$

    What the hell are you talking about? It’s not at all to see the motives as to why Dr. Tiller was shot. Recognizing the motives for a crime is not the same thing as handing out an excuse.

    How f/ucking stupid are you?


  63. smidget says:

    wiley, did you just call Tennessee liberal?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!


  64. RantingTommy says:

    harrison decried liberal emotion and then uses an emotionally loaded word to incorrectly label a fetus as a baby

    more dishonesty from right wing terrorist supporting sissies


  65. smidget says:

    Where are you, obamawipe$? Cooking up some fresh, new batch of still-lives-in-his-mom’s-basement-troll idiocy? Let’s hear it, dipshit. I’m excited about it.


  66. joe cantwell says:

    wipey,

    you sound perturbed.

    :)


  67. RantingTommy says:

    O$, give it up, you will never pull off the “not a dumbass” act

    your dumbassness shines through every performance


  68. spring heeled jack says:

    These are facts, Harrison?

    – “If you want to kill a baby, you hire Tiller. You’ve got to pay him $5,000 up front, and he’ll kill the baby.”

    – “No question Dr. Tiller has blood on his hands.”

    – “Dr. George Tiller destroys fetuses for just about any reason, right up until the birth date.”

    – “This man executes babies that are about to be born.”

    – “This is the kind of stuff happened in Mao’s China, Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Soviet Union.”


  69. DNFP says:

    Do you or do you not condemn Tiller’s murder?

    As my dear old grandpappy used to say:

    “Actions speak louder than words.”

    GUILTY AS CHARGED.


  70. Fred says:

    wiley Says:
    Tennesse is a liberal dystopia.

    Mitch McConnal…….Tenn. nuff said.


  71. smidget says:

    Check it out, asswipe$:

    It’s NOT hard to figure out why a muslim shot 2 Americans.

    It’s NOT hard to figure out why a neocon shot an abortion doctor.

    Knowing WHY they did it does NOT mean you condone the action. I can’t even believe how fcuking stupid you are. It’s amazing. I’m completely taken by your total lack of intelligence, and utterly impressed with your ability to breathe in and out, let alone figure out how to use a keyboard. Please, keep going. I needed a good laugh today, and nothing cracks me up harder than a moron who thinks he’s smart.


  72. smidget says:

    Mitch McConnel is from Kentucky.


  73. joe cantwell says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    (it’s not the inner cities getting abortions)

    Bingo…more illigitimate babies equal a bigger welfare check.

    ***

    you caught them wipey.

    now what are you going to do about it?

    :)


  74. Fred says:

    harrison Says:
    O’Reilly stated facts about Tiller and you want to use your emotions to counter them? This is why all “progressives” are failures.

    Uh, liely don’t know facts and you apparenly don’t know that progressives just won elections in all fields in America. Hello….is this thing on? Hey dummy, pull the cotton out of your ears.

    You are the failures…..what say ya loser?


  75. smidget says:

    He’s not going to do anything about it, joe.

    He’s just going to sit in his mom’s basement, trolling the intertubes, rubbing his flacid dick, and keeping himself under the delusion that someone actually gives a shit about him or what he has to say.


  76. wiley says:

    Here’s the story of a woman who had an abortion at Dr. Tillman’s clinic. I edited out some of the story, for brevity. These women are not the cartoons in your “pro-life” heads.

    The end of August, beginning of September 2004 my husband and I got the news that we were expecting our second, due to arrive April 30, 2005. All was going well throughout the pregnancy. My husband had found out the sex but at the urging of a friend I had chosen not to find out. I wanted a surprise in the delivery room.

    We were excited to be having, our second child, a sibling for our three-year-old. Although we were content with one child, two would complete our family. We painted the baby’s room, put in new carpeting and got all the baby stuff from the attic to wash and clean.

    On March 24th, 2005, the Thursday before Easter, I went to the OB/GYN for my regular appointment. I knew an ultrasound would be done, I had asked my mom to come to the appointment with my daughter and me. During the ultrasound, the midwife noted a second fluid sac in the baby’s lower abdomen. She was unsure of what it was. Noting the concern on my face, she recommended I go for a second level ultrasound.

    The next Wednesday I went back to the midwife after work, hoping another ultrasound would be done and that the second fluid sac would be gone….The second fluid sac was still present in the lower abdomen; the heart arrhythmia could be heard on the NST but not clearly seen on the ultrasound in the office. Knowing I was going for the second level ultrasound the next day, the midwife said she would call and have them look at the heart to see if everything was okay.
    The next day at the level-two sonogram they noted that I was at 34 weeks 5 day, measured everything and said all appeared to look good. They really focused on the heart, enlarging the image on the screen, explaining as they scanned each picture and diced through it. However, they didn’t really say very much about what they saw.

    Next, they moved to the lower abdomen area. The second fluid sac was very evident on the screen. I could feel the uneasiness in the room. Our world fell out from under us as “Down syndrome” came out of the technician’s mouth. I felt the wind knocked out of me and began sobbing into my husband. He stood there trying to be so strong, absorbing it all and trying to make sense of it.

    The technician left us to give us some time to digest the news, then returned with the doctor. The doctor scanned and rescanned, explaining the findings to us. The lower abdomen appeared to have duodenal artesia (or double bubble) and the heart had an endocardial cushion defect (hole between the right side and the left side). Trying to give us some hope, he said both were operable after the baby was born, but there were no guarantees. However, the findings lead to a possibility of a chromosome abnormality, and he recommended an amnio. Wanting to have the cards laid out before us, we agreed to return the next day to have the amnio. That night, we shut and locked the door to the completed nursery.

    We returned for the amnio Friday morning. The doctor we’d had the night before met with us again. He explained that the sonogram was reviewed that morning by pediatric cardiologists, experts in this field. Their assessment of the heart defect went from bad to worse: they diagnosed hypoplastic left ventricle (underdevelopment of the left side of the heart) repairable only with a complete heart transplant and/or three open heart surgical procedures. We went ahead with the amnio, but knew in our hearts it was going to come back positive for Down syndrome.

    The doctors said if the amnio revealed Down syndrome, the likelihood of surviving surgery would be minimal to none, and without surgery the baby had 100% chance of fatality. However, not one doctor would promise us that if we opted not to have surgery and let nature take its course, that our wishes would be abided by. This was disturbing to us. Nor did they tell us that Down syndrome babies don’t get heart transplants. If the doctors felt they could give the baby a quality of life, they would take matters into their hands even without our consent.

    Following the amnio, we met with our regular OB/GYN and discussed our options. Adoption: How could we do that and always wonder “did our child make it? Was our child well-cared for?” Surgery: Facing a heart transplant or three-open heart surgeries with a transplant down the road. Yet with a child with Down syndrome, how would this be a quality of life? Life is hard enough for them. We considered the effects on our family and our three-year-old. Comfort care: We could not get a straight answer that our wishes would be abided by. Termination: How could we, this far along? But this option was the only choice in which we would have a say.

    After our meeting with our regular OBGYN, he contacted a doctor in Kansas doctor who would agree to termination based on the baby’s fatal condition. That Friday afternoon, we made the hardest decision of our lives as individuals and as a married couple. We would leave on Monday to start our termination on Tuesday. We cried all weekend, overwhelmed by a flood of emotions. Monday morning our OB/GYN called to tell us the first part of our amnio came back positive for trisomy 21: Down syndrome.

    Scared, we drove into the fenced in center where we were greeted by a smiling, friendly security guard. He informed us that everyday the protesters are there and said to just ignore them. A warm man, he explained he had to search our belongings. We went through a metal detector and he unlocked the door for us to proceed inside. We signed in and were led through another secured door to a waiting room/reception area.

    The following delivery decisions needed to be made: Did we want to view the baby or hold him or her? Did we want photos, footprints and handprints? Did we want our child’s receiving blanket? Baptism? Cremation? Funeral? Did we want to name the baby? We discussed each question and how we felt about each decision we were making. In the end, these are the decisions that we must live with, the choices we are making and the choices for our baby.

    At 2:10 p.m. April 6, 2005 our son, Joseph, came and went in an instant, taking with him a lifetime of hopes and dreams we had for him. He was born silently and not suffering from his broke heart and abdomen with complications of Down syndrome. We can only describe our feelings as being peaceful, knowing that love was all our baby ever knew.

    Our hearts ache with sadness and no words can describe how much we miss him and how deeply we love him. He will always be close to our hearts, mind, body and soul. And if it was not for the Kansas doctor, giving us a little help, we are not sure what we would be writing … Death and life are the same mysteries.


  77. joe cantwell says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    smidget Says

    Thanks for proving my point, again!

    ***

    what was your point?


  78. joe cantwell says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    wiley Says

    Cherry pick, much?

    ..

    cliché much?

    :)


  79. Evil Spaniard says:

    Funny how many protestants fled Old Europe because the Catholic Church was too repressive, violent and authoritarian… only to fund their own brand in the Americas.


  80. Broadway Carl says:

    He “chose a different approach” because he was among those who thought it was justified.


  81. Evil Spaniard says:

    Broadway Carl Says:

    He “chose a different approach” because he was among those who thought it was justified.

    June 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse

    So bank robbers “chose a different approach” to have a wage?


  82. Fred says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    Thanks for proving my point, again!

    The only point you have is the one on top of your head.


  83. Fred says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    wiley Says

    Cherry pick, much?

    That’s it? Black and white? There is never any reason that would justify an abortion? You my friend are a fool.


  84. wiley says:

    cherry pick, much translated: I’m not gonna read all that! Thares paregraffs.


  85. RantingTommy says:

    wow, wiley, that is heartwrenching

    amazing that right wingers refuse to get educated on this and most other issues

    they prefer to think in bumper-sticker sized segments


  86. DNFP says:

    obamawipe$ Says:

    Thanks for proving my point, again!

    If it takes complete strangers on a blog to help make one point to a singular individual, I’d say that individual is starring in a one-man, one-act play, with no audience.

    Bravo!


  87. DNFP says:

    They should have not got pregnant.

    If God was a martinet grammarian, your path to Hell would already have your name on it.


  88. RantingTommy says:

    obamawipe$ Says:

    down syndrome is HERIDITARY! They should have not got pregnant.

    neither should your mother, you ignorant, cowardly, redneck


  89. Fred says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    down syndrome is HERIDITARY! They should have not got pregnant.

    If we never get pregnant because of fears of heretary disease we would cease to exist. Not your best thought among many dumb thoughts.

    What mystifies me is that you are the same people who would condemn the woman to poverty because you would refuse to help them with the medical bills that would accumulate if she were to have the child. You are narrowminded and ignorant and thankfully not involved in the decision making anymore.


  90. DNFP says:

    Am I missing something?

    Don’t ALL computers have spell check?

    Are regressives too stupid to understand how to use it, or just, oh, nevermind…

    You can never, ever cure STUPID.


  91. Broadway Carl says:

    Evil Spaniard says: So bank robbers “chose a different approach” to have a wage?

    You know I’m talking about O’Reilly, right?


  92. wiley says:

    Isn’t it funny that the people who dismiss the internet as nothing but a bunch of opinionated horn-blowers are usually the same people who never appear to read anything anywhere. How long does it take to find information on the internet? If I’m ever a nanny again, I’m going to teach the child how to use a search engine for age-appropriate inquiries. We’ll talk about vetting while we look things up. The average child should be pretty handy with it by the age of eight or nine.

    12 years of public education and the world’s libraries at their fingertips and all these yahoos can cough up is a slogan based on their impressions based on their religion.


  93. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    A much more realistic argument can be made that the torture and abuse of prisoners and the way the US has been treating Muslims in the last few years motivated him to kill American soldiers.
    So, you are defending the muslim nut job that killed to Americans? Classy, pos.

    Only someone with an IQ in room temperature range would make this conclusion. This poster was simply pointing out a possible motivation by the shooter, like you tried to say it was because he was an “anti-war” nut who targeted the military.

    I have a suggestion for you. Go to your local junior college (if you are old enough to be admitted) and take a course in critical thinking. It will help you greatly.


  94. joe cantwell says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    down syndrome is HERIDITARY! They should have not got pregnant.

    ***

    doctor much?

    :)

    wipey,

    don’t have a bad day…

    get out there and do something

    with your life!

    :)

    :)


  95. wiley says:

    Down’s syndrome is hereditary. Hmmm. Funny that a lot of women have perfectly healthy children before the Down’s Syndrome shows up in a pregnancy. Guess we shouldn’t mourn the fact that those healthy children wouldn’t have born if the mother had not had any pregnancies in order to eliminate the possibility of a fetus developing with Down’s.

    Do you people hear yourselves? Ever?


  96. DNFP says:

    It will help you greatly.

    No way, it couldn’t even get accepted at Trade School where they wanted to teach it to clean animal cages at the local zoo.


  97. wiley says:

    I’m doing alright, Joe. Thank you. Am having my coffee and waiting for someone to get home so we can get started on a big project.


  98. RantingTommy says:

    DNFP Says:

    It will help you greatly.

    No way, it couldn’t even get accepted at Trade School where they wanted to teach it to clean animal cages at the local zoo.

    and if they believe anything on FOX, they can’t identify excrement anyway


  99. dbadass says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    down syndrome is HERIDITARY! They should have not got pregnant.


    No it isn’t. It is the result of a nondisjunction meiotic event as related to the 21st chromosome pair.


  100. wiley says:

    He’s home. Give em hell guys. I’m shutting Shroeder (my laptop) down for a bit.


  101. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    harrison Says:
    O’Reilly stated facts about Tiller and you want to use your emotions to counter them?

    No dipshit, O’Reilly lied about Dr. Tiller. He said that Tiller had performed 65,000 abortions. If you do the math, you will see that is quite impossible.

    He said that Dr. Tiller would perform an abortion right up to the birth of a baby. If the baby was ready to be born, it would not be an abortion, would it?

    He said that Dr. Tiller would do a late term abortion for any reason at all. I guess O’Reilly is unfamiliar with the law regarding late term abortions in Kansas. The law says that it can only be done when the baby is likely to die or the mother is likely to die taking the pregnancy to full term. This decision requires a second opinion by two separate doctors.

    When you get right down to it, O’Reilly has done nothing but spread fear and hate by his attacks on Dr. Tiller. He and the murderer have both achieved what they were after. Now a woman who is likely to die if she takes her pregnancy to term will just have to die (along with the baby), since there are now no doctors who will perform a late term abortion.

    Congratulations terrorists O’Reilly, Operation Rescue and Scott Roeder, you have all effectively condemned numerous women and babies to a death sentence.


  102. joe cantwell says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    so we can get started on a big project.

    Burned out light bulb?

    ***

    you can stay here all day.

    :)


  103. RantingTommy says:

    obamawipe$ Says:

    so we can get started on a big project.

    Burned out light bulb?

    no, they are not performing a brain transplant on you



  104. joe cantwell says:

    rt!

    did proud chicken out

    on the fight saturday night?

    what a pussy!

    :)


  105. Fred says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    so we can get started on a big project.

    Burned out light bulb?

    These guys just seem to think that nasty and mean are not flaws in a persons charactor…..the right, go figure.
    Dude, seek help.


  106. joe cantwell says:

    Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
    obamawipe$ Says:

    down syndrome is HERIDITARY! They should have not got pregnant.

    Completely Wrong. Thanks for proving that home schooling is a complete failure.

    ***

    wipey is trying to reach out…

    he wants help.

    he just doesn’t know how to ask for it.

    :(


  107. Sheepdog says:

    JOSE CANTWELL: Como estas hombre? Did you choose CHICKEN or BEEF homey?


  108. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    chicken and waffles Says:

    Monday’s shootings are not believed to be part of a broader scheme. Instead, authorities say Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad acted on his own when he drove to a shopping center in western Little Rock and began shooting in broad daylight.

    June 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 am
    ____________

    This was a tragic and senseless act of violence, and I condemn the actions of Mr. Muhammad. Though I understand his anger at the actions of the U.S. government against people of Muslim faith in Iraq and Afghanistan, this was not the way to voice this anger.

    There. Now you can no longer say that progressives support terrorism, so stop saying it.


  109. joe cantwell says:

    Sheepdog Says:
    JOSE CANTWELL: Como estas hombre? Did you choose CHICKEN or BEEF homey?

    ***

    “a life time of war and combat has taught me one thing:

    one man’s toe is another man’s fetish.”

    – general george s. patton

    :)

    ’nuff said!

    ..

    ..


  110. Sheepdog says:

    JOSE CANTWELL, hombre that was an odd answer to a very direct insider question. So, did you choose the chicken or the beef?


  111. Sheepdog says:

    Republicans hates facts: good morning from the WEST. How are you doing today?


  112. Wayne says:

    obamawipe$ Says:

    down syndrome is HERIDITARY! They should have not got pregnant.

    No it isn’t. But thanks for showing you are a dumbf_ck, over and over again.


  113. Evil Spaniard says:

    Broadway Carl Says:

    Evil Spaniard says: So bank robbers “chose a different approach” to have a wage?

    You know I’m talking about O’Reilly, right?

    June 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse

    Your reference wasn’t very clear.


  114. Jane E. Schneider says:

    obamawipe$ Says:
    down syndrome is HERIDITARY! They should have not got pregnant.
    June 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    If your statement had been factual (duh, it’s not), I would have two words for you, asswipe$: SARAH PALIN.


  115. joe cantwell says:

    Sheepdog Says:
    JOSE CANTWELL, hombre that was an odd answer to a very direct insider question. So, did you choose the chicken or the beef?

    ***

    yes it was.

    six two and even

    over and out.

    \\


  116. smidget says:

    Down syndrome is NOT hereditary, asswipe, it is the result of a chromosomal malformation.

    I said it before, and I’ll say it again – there is little that cracks me up harder than a moron who thinks they’re smart.


  117. joe cantwell says:

    Sheepdog Says:
    Republicans hates facts: good morning from the WEST. How are you doing today?

    ***

    what are you doing the rest of your life?

    the north and south and east and west of your life?

    :|


  118. EugeneDebs says:

    harrison

    You are stupid. He didnt kill babies. Just because you are ignorant and brainwashed enough to buy and repeat such stupidity wont make it true it will just highlight how stupid and pathetic you are


  119. Game of Life says:

    teabagger repug=only if there were a way for us to denounced abortion for whites only…


  120. blackwidow says:

    obamawipe$, you and Bill O’Reilly and your kind really are an a/sses aren’t you?

    You don’t want women to have abortions, but you don’t want poor women to have babies because they are just doing it to get that huge welfare check.
    You don’t want people with horribly sick babies to abort, but you and your kind are unwilling to help families pay for the huge medical bills or provide support for the emotional toll a very one of these kids can cause a family.

    You say that people with genetic birth defects in their family should not get pregnant, but your kind does not want people to practice birth control nor do you want comprehensive sex education or free birth control, the 2 things that have proven to lower the abortion rate.

    You don’t want to do what really needs to be done to help women decide to carry a child to term and then give it up for adoption.

    You don’t want to help families afford that extra child that they end up with when they choose to continue a pregnancy.
    You and your kind cut health care and programs that help the working poor, you judge when you should show empathy and do it all in the name of Jesus.

    What you and your kind do want is to control women, control our sexual autonomy….you want to be able to take us back to a time when we were nothing more the a “thing”, a walking incubator for your children.

    And I assume that you want woman who might die by continuing a pregnancy to just go ahead and die since it would be better if there were no Doctors to preform late term abortions.


  121. krystalview says:

    Howard Kurtz said “….The occasion, in my view, called for it; he chose a different approach.”

    WHAT THE F?!?!? he chose a different approach???

    Howard Kurtz is the first one to become hysterically overbearing whenever he decides Olbermann is “out of line”. As a former member of the MSM, I’ve been watching him for years. Billo’s role in Dr. Tiller’s murder is unquestionable and Kurtz should have the COJONES to call him out on it. COWARD!


  122. AmiBlue says:

    Did anyone really think billo would handle it any other way. His ratings must have shot up last night with all the idiots who thought he would apologize or otherwise admit he is evil.


  123. Marie says:

    blackwidow,
    I couldn’t agree more with you — in fact — were you listening in on me at work this morning?

    There is no doubt in my mind that repugniscum policies are misogynistic. Their patronizing of women, their feigned concern for the unborn, and all under the guise of their “moral values.”
    They dominate their women and they want to dominate all women.


  124. ukeman123 says:

    Like Cheney, Oreilly’s paranoid.
    They’ll get theirs.
    Meanwhile “onward christian soldiers”.
    I guess Pat Robertson’s cheered up now and is waiting to torture pro choice americans.


  125. Game of Life says:

    blackwidow Says:

    obamawipe$, you and Bill O’Reilly and your kind really are an a/sses aren’t you?

    You don’t want women to have abortions, but you don’t want poor women to have babies because they are just doing it to get that huge welfare check.
    You don’t want people with horribly sick babies to abort, but you and your kind are unwilling to help families pay for the huge medical bills or provide support for the emotional toll a very one of these kids can cause a family.

    Also they approve ED drugs but don’t want women to own their own womb.

    repugs are just the asses of the world.


  126. Game of Life says:

    Like I said before repugs want to control all the wombs in the US. Really they want to control women.


  127. krystalview says:

    No difference between the Taliban and the Conservative radicals in this country. None whatsoever!


  128. UCSBKitty says:

    This crime is despicable and meant to terrorize any who want to join the military. Likewise with the Tiller murder, this is an act of domestic terrorism. However, the media will not dare call Tiller’s murder terrorism, because they are afraid of alienating the Religious Right.

    The difference for the trolls who intentionally fail to see it is that you did not have any rhetoric on the left about justifiable homicide and how we should go after the military recruiters. We did not believe in anything going beyond protesting at the military recruiting centers. There were those on the fringe right who believed that if you did not kill Dr. Tiller, you had blood on your hands.


  129. kasinca says:

    The reichwingnut blowhards know how stupid their listeners are. The sure as hell are not talking to thinking individuals. They are talking to the NRA, NASCAR, Bush/Cheney ‘04 crowd.


  130. jeff2001 says:

    You can’t blame Oreilly for every RIGHT-WING NUT. Who goes crazy, and kills somebody. There are some nuts on here, who talk so much hate about Sarah Palin. If they tried to harm her would it be thinkprogress, MSNBC , or Keith O fault. Of course not.


  131. The Angry Republican says:

    Dear Bill,

    You falaful loving sexual predator.

    Lets see you spin this…

    Hey here’s a nice little tidbit for you… chew on this logic…

    Pro-Choice individuals that have murdered Pro-Lifers for their beliefs… 0
    Pro-Lifers that have murdered pro-choice individuals and innocent victims for their beliefs…84 and counting…

    Wow

    Get this straight my Christian God is NOT your freeking blood letting god (little g) that you seem to want to expound on everyone.

    Faith is PERSONAL and should NOT be in:

    1) Our Government.
    2) Our Schools.
    3) Our Science.
    4) Our Military.
    5) Our Medicine.

    Don’t like my opinion? Go cry to your Operation Rescue nazi, facist, racist, sexist pastor while he is boinking your wife and your son…oh that’s right you’re incapable of a serious relationship…my bad… :)


  132. The Angry Republican says:

    Sorry maybe i’m being to harsh on Flafal Bill…


  133. dbadass says:

    jeff2001:
    Are you cracked? Sarah Palin is too lame to be worth killing. Besides she makes a hilarious sideshow alive…


  134. wiley says:

    Fred~

    These guys just seem to think that nasty and mean are not flaws in a persons charactor…..the right, go figure.

    What I find truly phenomenal, Fred, is that they actually appear to think that mature, rational, and educated adults would ever associate these unhinged “barbs” with themselves and actually be hurt by them. I laugh.


  135. doktorgizemli says:

    Hey Kevin. I just saw the YouTube video about web 3.0 and I have had this idea about our future economy.
    It’s a bit in tune with the Zeitgeist film. See, if all of our knowledge was shared, we couldn’t make money of it. Siki?
    porno
    Porno izle
    sex videolar?
    I’m a musician and I kinda have the feeling that in the future people will pay for live performances, because we have computer software that is very close to sounding like a musical instrument, with a modelled human touch. So, if a person that has never played the guitar, can click a button and sound like Jimi Hendrix, than what is the coolness about all this digital music really? Infact, I think that the more advanced this gets, the less interesting it becomes. We are still in awe over a youngster that can make the violin cry and we will definately be in even more awe when a person can actually do with their fingers that what we can do in an iPhone application.



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