ThinkFast: June 2, 2009
ThinkFast: June 2, 2009
President Obama hit back at former Vice President Dick Cheney’s recent criticism yesterday, saying that “he…happens to be wrong.” “Last time, immediately after his speech, I think there was a fact-check on his speech that didn’t get a very good grade,” said Obama in an interview with NPR.
General Motors (GM) marked “the lowest point” in its 100-year history yesterday, filing for bankruptcy and announcing plans to close 14 plants and three warehouses. With the federal government now a majority shareholder, President Obama said that his goals are: “To get G.M. back on its feet, take a hands-off approach and get out quickly.” In response, GOP leaders that they will use the government takeover of GM as “ammunition in their bid to defeat congressional Democrats next year.”
President Obama reversed his decision to release detainee abuse photos “after Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki warned that Iraq would erupt into violence and that Iraqis would demand that U.S. troops withdraw from Iraq a year earlier than planned.” Maliki told Obama, “Baghdad will burn” if the photos are released, a U.S. military official told McClatchy.
Hours before he leaves for the Middle East and Europe, Obama will meet at the White House today with the Democrats on two Senate committees that are drafting health legislation. The White House is also releasing a report today that asserts that revamping America’s health care system “would increase the income of a typical family of four by $2,600 in 2020, and by $10,000 in 2030.”
Last week, the State Department “sent a cable to its embassies and consulates around the world notifying them that ‘they may invite representatives from the government of Iran‘ to their Independence Day celebrations,” which usually “feature hot dogs, red-white-and-blue bunting and some perfunctory remarks about the founding fathers.” Obama administration officials “characterized the move as another in a series of American overtures to Iran.”
Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor today will attempt to “woo key senators who will decide if she merits a seat on the Supreme Court” in a series of 10 meetings on the hill. She will lunch with “two boosters, her home state Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand and Chuck Schumer.”
Hate radio host Michael Savage has officially sued British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith for banning Savage from the UK for “fomenting hatred.” While Smith declared “herself ready for a fight,” the BBC is reporting today that Smith “is expected to stand down as home secretary in a reshuffle.”
Education Secretary Arne Duncan “wants to take school turnaround efforts nationwide on a scale never tried before,” aiming to close and reconstitute 250 schools next year. “Mr. Duncan controls $3 billion in the economic stimulus law that could go to school turnarounds, and the administration’s 2010 budget requests $1.5 billion more.”
And finally: NBC’s Brian Williams goes inside the White House. Watch the segments here.
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Dick reminds me of the evil robot in Iron Man.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 amDick is just a frightened little man who knows he should be in prison.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:07 amDear President Obama:
About 5-deferment Dickhead Cheney.
SOCK IT TO HIM!
Let the war crimes tribunal begin
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 amNuremberg II 2009
My god Cheney is creepy. How long can his small black heart continue to pump? Oh yeah, I forgot, he’s an android sent back from the future to destroy America.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 amMission Accomplished.
In response, GOP leaders that they will use the government takeover of GM as “ammunition in their bid to defeat congressional Democrats next year.”
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Which underscores how weak their ammunition really is. They don’t have any real ordnance so they have to jerry-rig whatever they can find.
All Democrats have to do to counter this is point out the facts:
1. General Motors was going under for the third time, partly because of the poor economy, and partly because their leadership ran their boat aground on a reef (hubris is a lousy navigation tool).
2. The only entity with enough money to rescue them was the U.S. government. President Obama would have much preferred a merger with another company to keep GM solvent, but that wasn’t happening.
3. The alternative to bailing GM out with government money was to allow them to fail. Not only would this have put many more people out of work, but it would have crippled many other manufacturers and vendors who depend on GM for their business — creating another big negative blow to the economy.
4. President Obama really doesn’t want to stay in the automotive business indefinitely. He’s really got more important things to do. He’s as anxious for GM to recover as anyone else.
But this isn’t going to stop the GOP from painting Obama as some sort of tyrannical dictator, grabbing control of as many American corporations as possible in order to put a stop to free enterprise and turn us into the Soviet Union. This will be their message, which the trolls are already obediently parroting on sites such as TP.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 amObama will meet at the White House today with the Democrats on two Senate committees that are drafting health legislation. The White House is also releasing a report today that asserts that revamping America’s health care system “would increase the income of a typical family of four by $2,600 in 2020, and by $10,000 in 2030.”
No Obama, if single payer was on the table NOW, Americian families could save between $5k to $10k almost instantaniously!!!!!! We are not buying the 10 years down the road story!!!!!!!
WE WANT A PUBLIC PLAN!!!!!! WITH NO DEDUCT, NO CO-PAYS JUST SINGLE PAYER !!!
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 amMy impression, in watching Cheney’s last speech, is that he is growing increasingly afraid that he will, indeed, be prosecuted. He blamed Tenet for the Iraq-911 link and Richard Clarke for 911 itself. How much longer before he blames Bush 100% for the torture and other “enhanced interrogation methods?” He appears genuinely frightened and increasingly stressed out. And his assertion that the Iraq war somehow saved lives is truly incredible. The man is committable; perhaps he’s going for an insanity verdict, when the time comes. And it WILL come.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 amwinddancer Says:
How much longer before he blames Bush 100% for the torture and other “enhanced interrogation methods?”
winddancer, Cheney is inching closer and closer to blaming Bush, but perhaps he fails to realize that the Bush family is far more powerful than the Cheneys. No doubt, Papa Bush is watching Dick closely, and counseling his son that his legacy will rest with who the public ultimately blames.
Dick better watch his back. Not that I care one bit.
PEACE
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 amConservativeForProgress Says:
Why are “Progressives” so filled with hate?
Why are you so full of sh!t? One writer produces an unpleasant article and only hateful lying goons apply that broad brush to “progressives.”
Tommy Christopher, of course, is a well-known and highly-respected “progressive” writer — even if none of us have ever heard of him. After all, he writes for the highly-influential AOL. AOL? You truly are the biggest goon.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 amWhy are “Progressives” so filled with hate?
Only when countering equally, aggressive hate (see: Malkin, Limbaush, Hannity, O’Reilly, et.al.)
Now kindly, go fcuk yourself (nothing hateful intended, just a nice hard fcuking).
A dried up old hag like you could probably use it.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 amFrom today’s NYT:
Minnesota Justices Are Skeptical in Senate Case
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 am
watchdog Says:
A pup sitting in a pile of shit and peeing itself is hardly what anyone wants in a “watchdog”.
I’m calling animal control…
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 amHow is Obama suppose to get around moron? By bike? Should he drive himself to NYC. How did dipsht Bush get to and from his ranch in Crawford where he spent half of his presidency? Did he take Amtrak?
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 amI can’t believe anyone on the right is criticizing Obama for taking his wife to a Broadway play, considering how much time off Bush took even at this point in his presidency.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:40 amThere is a good discussion of the GM bankruptcy on Democracy Now!
Democracy Now!
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:40 amHow did dipsht Bush get to and from his ranch in Crawford where he spent half of his presidency?
Trips to Crawford are 4 times the cost of a quick trip to NYC or Camp David from DC.
Republitards also suck at geography, among other elementary fields of study.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:40 amwatchdog Says:
OBAMA NYC TRIP COST $250,000?
In another odd twist left unexamined by the media, the White House on Monday said it simply would not release the cost of President Obama’s weekend jaunt to New York City, where the First Couple had dinner and caught a Broadway show.
It was so much better when we had a president that had to hide out on his “ranch” in Texas because he couldn’t go out in public — only to scripted and carefully screened “town meetings.”
Here’s a bulletin to that rag, the Washington Times: the President of the United States is not a corporate executive and he’s not looking for a federal bailout of a failed corporation. And we’d like to keep the President safe from wingnut loons like the one who just killed a doctor IN CHURCH.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:42 amgummble-bee-itch Says:
And we’d like to keep the President safe from wingnut loons like the one who just killed a doctor IN CHURCH.
Yes, gummitch. Can any religious-right anti-abortionist tell us, “Who would Jesus shoot in the foyer of a church?”
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 ambuzzbomb Says:
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How is Obama suppose to get around moron? By bike? Should he drive himself to NYC. How did dipsht Bush get to and from his ranch in Crawford where he spent half of his presidency? Did he take Amtrak?
Yeah, they conveniently forget that Bush took more vacations than any President in recent history. And they conveniently ignore the fact that the economic crisis they accuse Obama of both adding to and abandoning because of this trip actually was caused by the previous administration. OMG, that’s it! Neocons aren’t evil or liars; they just have a medical condition–short-term memory loss!
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 amDNFP Says:
How did dipsht Bush get to and from his ranch in Crawford where he spent half of his presidency?
Trips to Crawford are 4 times the cost of a quick trip to NYC or Camp David from DC.
Republitards also suck at geography, among other elementary fields of study.
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watchdog Says:
Hypocrisy is something that Regressives don’t get because they are too close to the problem.
Please explain how DNFP’s response is an example of “hypocrisy”? Do you even know what the word means, or are you just throwing the same word at us that we throw at you (which we do because it fits)?
Give it up, watchdog. The arguments you post are pure nonsense and not in the least bit persuasive. Here’s a hint for you – your argument is stronger when it is supported by facts, which are things that are actually true. Making up a false scenario does not mean your idea is correct. Try to learn to do that, and you will meet less scorn and ridicule here.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 amNothing hypocritical about pointing out the extreme ignorance of Republitards.
Committing murder in a church ring a bell dipshit?
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 amDNFP Says:
Republitards also suck at geography, among other elementary fields of study.
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Lighten up, dude… we ALL know the Earth is flat…
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 amwatchdog Says:
Hypocrisy is something that Regressives don’t get
It’s hard for us to “get it” when you morons have cornered the market.
LOL!
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 amHey guys.,,just for future reference, heres a good source to use when researching dullards like ConservativeInPromdress’s “sources”…
http://www.sourcewatch.org
For instance, here is link to the organization run by the lady ConservativePromdress quoted as a “reliable source” for the statistic of 9000 acts of “union” violence (as if the idea that “unions” are even a singular unified group with a singular common goal, anyway,,,
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Small_Business_Survival_Committee
“The Small Business Survival Committee (SBSC) is an industry-funded organization that has campaigned on behalf of the tobacco industry and against open source software. The organization appeared on a 2000 Philip Morris list of “National allies.”[1]
The president of SBSC was Karen Kerrigan, who, on an October 3, 1995 internal Philip Morris email was described as being a “proxy” for Timothy N. Hyde of R.J. Reynolds on a radio show.[2] ”
By the way, the same miss Karen (K) Kerrigan was also appointed by GEORGE BUSH to be in charge of women’s right the Islamic Republic of Iraq in 2004. Given the complete disdain republicans have for womens right you can imagine that miss Kerrigan is undoubtedly about as astroturf as it gets..
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 amWho the hell is Tommy Christopher? Playboy doesn’t even pretend to be a voice for the Progressive movement.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 amLooks like I missed a good troll whacking last night on the Cheney thread.
C’est le vie
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 amWow! watchpuppy just called us dummy butts. My three year old would be proud of watchpuppy.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:57 am“Progressives are stupid dummy butts”???
Did he actually call us “stupid dummy butts”?
Wow, talk about someone who is out of ammunition in a debate.
As I said before, watchdog, give it up.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 amI’ve said all along, the trolls average age/IQ is 13.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:00 amwatchdog Says:
Progressives are stupid dummy butts.
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What the…???
This proves something we’ve all wondered about… yer still in middle school, huh?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:00 amChinese and Muslims???? DEAR GOD YOU BETTER run for the hills Republitards!
THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING, WHERE’S MY MOMMY????
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 amDidn’t Michael Savage scream bloody murder – that he shouldn’t be allowed in the country – when Ahmadinejad was to speak at the UN?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 amLike a true repug — he can dish it out but he can’t take it.
sorry, meant to say “as if the idea that “unions” are even a singular unified group with a singular common goal makes any sense, anyway”.
Unlike unions, whose goals are usually very narrowly tailored toward the employees they represent, ALL fetushugging jesusfreak organizations pretty much have a common goal…to make sure that women are forced to bring children into this world, no matter how harmful it might be, how much of a danger to the mothers life it might be, and no matter how damaged or malformed the child will be or how briefly and expensively it will live. Oh, and no matter whether the child is a product of rape or incest. EVERY single one of these screwball abortion groups have the same goal: to completely deprive women of control over thier own bodies in every and any circumstance. you find me ONE of these so called “pro-life” groups that advocates birth control and other methods of preventing preganancy other than abstinence. I’ll bet you can’t. its because you freaks share one scary, unthinking hive mind. or at least those of you who don’t have no ability to form a organization that doesnt meet the exact idealogy i described above.
to say that a meatpackers union and a truckers union have the exact same goals or to somehow equate the two simply because they have the label “unions” is absurd.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 amWayne Ant Schneider Says:
“Progressives are stupid dummy butts”???
Did he actually call us “stupid dummy butts”?
What’s hysterical about this is that our “conservative” trolls always whine that “only people who have nothing to contribute start with the name-calling.”
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 am>Soldiers shot by Muslim convert
So much for fighting them over there so we dont have to fight them over here, huh?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 amHow much will health care costs go up for a family of four in 2010, 2012,whenever the reform plan is implemented?
Business doesn’t want to pay and the government is tapped out.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 amwhy are right wingers like watchpuppy so freaking scared?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 amwatchpuppy calls us juvenile names and then decries the namecalling at TP
is there a stronger word than hypocrite?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 amDo you think that if Aricept was slipped into the drinking fountain in the repugsnicum congress, they might find their addled, alzheimer’s afflicted brains improving in memory retention? How quickly their collective short term memory has forgotten the numerous vacations taken by dumbya in his term as president, including that first summer?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 amwatchdog Says:
I’m trying to keep up with the far intellectually superior name calling that ends every post on this site.
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EVERY POST? Nothing quite like a pointless, obviously dishonest, sweeping generalization early in the morning… I allus say.
Do you ever have a REAL point to make?
Care to discuss the fact that Cheney’s finally admitted there was never any evidence tying Iraq to 9/11 after all?
Now… THAT’S worth looking at… or would you prefer to go on and on about the kind of mustard the POTUS uses… or whether is birth certificate is real?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 amto somehow equate the two simply because they have the label “unions” is absurd.
So true. As a member of the local musician’s union (pick a number at random, there’s thousands of them, all associated) I’ve never felt the same strain as some other union members.
Hell, all I do is cash checks they send me, flippin’ schweet.
LONG LIVE THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF MUSICIANS UNION. SAG is even sweeter too, if you can garner some paid camera time.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 amYglesia posted a link yesterday evening. It was titled “why cutting health cost is hard.” The link led to an effort to reopen a closed New Jersey hospital as a for-profit facility.
The joint venture partner is Nancy-Ann DeParle’s old firm. The deal was struck while Ms. DeParle worked for CCMP Capital Partners and sat on the board of Legacy Health Partners.
Matt’s post led me to the story, so a big shout out to him.
http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/2009/06/deparles-new-jersey-deal-points-to.html
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 amblotchdog Spews:
Progressives are dummy butts.
and
Progressives masturbate to sesame street.
Wow. Feeling intellectually challenged this morning?
That’s all you got?
(okay, but excuse me while I dumb down to blotchdog’s level)
Oh yeah, well yo mamma’s sooooooo fat, she has her own zip code!
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 amA step in the right direction:
US transport boss: Spain’s trains are US’ models
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 amShouldn’t someone here be washing Chuck Norris’s balls and planning a grand secession?
What a lousy, fake, wussy Texan you claim to be.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 amIf you weren’t so dishonest you would acknowledge that Obama’s plan is to reduce those costs for one thing….
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 amlook, the outhouse calls us childish while holding on to his childish belief in superstition and using it as a club to hit “libruls” with
outhouse (johnintexas) is a glaring hypocrite
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 amWTF is Joanintexas posting?
Did she not get enough attention as a child?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:13 amI predict thousands will have died from the street fighting and rioting that is to come.
Why to Republitards think life is their favorite video game?
Grow up inbred.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:13 amouthouse is a pussy, that’s all
he is scared because he is a wimp
he quivers in fear at anything the right wing terrorists tell him to fear
he doesn’t have the brain power to discern between truth and the fear mongering aimed at cowards like him
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 amWRONG. Now is the perfect time to make it “hands on” and re-introduce the Saturn EV1, the electric car. This will revolutionize the auto industry and create thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of jobs in a new economy.
The U.S. should commission a new “Manhattan Project” for battery technology, and make this the “hot, new, American technology.”
Sure, make it “hands off” and let them run it into the ground again.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 amYou got to admit that this nut doesn’t get irony!!!!
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 amhey outhouse, Hitler was a Christian fascist, just like you
why are you so much like Hitler?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 amJohnintexas Says:
Curiously, Adolf Hitler suffered from the same self-centered righteousness which tolerated no outside opinion. This similarity explains why liberals (like you see displayed in this forum all the time) are fascist in their outlook.
A wingnut calling leftists “self-centered” and intolerant? That’s got to be one of the funnier (and least intelligent) comments yet to be spewed from this idiot. But then having liberals compared to Hitler and called fascist in the same comment sets the bar for stupidity at an all-time level.
It’s just too bad this isn’t parody.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 amWingtards grew up mostly in super macho bravado homes (daddy always trying to make up for his short-comings) which instilled nothing but chest-thumping ignorance to cover the abject fear and feelings of inadequacy.
That’s all really.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:17 amHow yellow-bellied fake Texan.
Cheney admitted yesterday that Iraq was NOT involved in 9/11.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/02/cheney-there-was-never-an_n_210145.html
Damn, you one stupid sumbeech.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:20 amsoiledintexas needs to grow a set
why are you such a pussy, john?
why do you think America is too weak to defeat a few terrorist criminals without resorting to torture and war?
are you projecting your own cowardice onto our brave country?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:20 amA fake, chickenhawk Texan whine’s on blog, thinks it’s fact.
More news at 11…
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:20 amThanks Joanintexas! I’ve seen the light as a parent. Instead of being a loving and caring father, I will alter my parental skills to those of CONservatives.
No love.
No caring.
No interest in my child.
Just like the parents of these children!!!
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 amstill wrong, soiledintexas
Hitler was most definitely a right wing fascist christian
JUST
LIKE
YOU
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 amFlagged for racism and ignorance. geeze dude, where were you when bush was actually destroying our economy?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:22 amJohnintexas Says:
46 . . . why are we so scared?
Because we are seeing a racist, white-hating mulatto and the clowns surrounding him wreak havoc on our great nation.
Another whiny cracker bigot, afraid of the dark. Yes, John, it’s very scary that a black man is running the country. Why, you just can’t allow these uppity boys to come up out of the fields and start acting like they belong in the house, can you?
Why don’t you find Pat Buchanan and his time machine and p!ss off back to the 19th Century where you belong?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:22 amjohn is a pussy, that is the only explanation for his cowardly ignorance
the only question is: is his cowardice caused by his ignorance, or is his ignorance caused by he cowardice?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 amBut we know you have. By the way, he wasn’t a Christain, obviously but he did use the religion just as the right does in America today……ps, you’re an idiot.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 amHitler was incapable of believing in any Higher Power or any religious institution.
Most people who study Hitler as deeply as you and believe they know him personally are nothing more than White Supremacists who totally adore the man.
Case closed.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 amreligion itself plays on the ignorance and fear of its followers
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 amis there a stronger word than hypocrite?
“Unprincipled”?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 amjohn, you ignorant little whiny coward, just because the world is a big scary place to YOU, doesn’t mean well-adjusted, intelligent people like us can’t exist in it without quivering in fear
you never answered the question: why are you such a pussy?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 am> I’m trying to keep up with the far
> intellectually superior
> name calling that
> ends every post on this site.
bwhahahaha. oh please do heighten the level of discourse on this site some more by posting more stories about prejudice against gay dogs…that one was priceless…
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 amIdiot fake Texan thinks because he has 15 children out of wedlock, he should be giving “parental” advice.
Time to take him to the woodshed…
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 amTrailer parks have woodsheds?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:28 am> so the liberal grows up spoiled rotten
> and thinking HE/SHE is the center of the world.
>This is why most reject Christianity
Uhm are you referring to the same christianity that for several hundred years condemned as a heretic a man who dared claimed that the sun didnt revolve around US?
YOu think your imaginary sky daddy with his magic p@nis who enjoys sexual relations with human women is center of the world and you call US deluded? whahahaha.
Do you still think the sun revolves around the earth as the christian church insisted it did for hundreds of years when wiser men were claiming otherwise?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:28 amWait, Joanintexas.
My children are lost?
Can you help me find them so I can ignore them, hate them, and abuse them?
Thanks!
Because, you know, I don’t want to be TOO LOVING, TOO CARING!
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 amBig talk from a man who provides inuindo but no facts to back it up……pretty much makes you just a run of the mill liar as far as I’m concerned. Oh yeah, that has been proven repeatedly here.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 amshorter john: “I’m too scared to believe I’m not in mortal danger just because the facts point to that”
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 amJoanintexas,
You’ve just asked me to stop lying.
Please point out anywhere in my posts that I was lying.
I’ll wait.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 amI’m a lifelong, 4th generation Texan.
I know Texans.
Most of them are “all hat, no cattle”, much bravado, but only if they’re carrying a gun (can you spell p.u.s.s.y. and c.o.w.a.r.d.? I thought you could).
Stupid is what they are. Stupid is what they know. Stupid is what they do.
Let’s watch our resident example of Texas’ ignorance continue to lay a foundation for my position…
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 amNot a lot of info on the net about Watchdogs’ shrink yet, but this did pop up – I will keep looking. Probably a citation or two in the good doctor’s history. Repugs make lousy psychiatrists.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 amTrailer parks have woodsheds?
Very rarely you’ll find one resident with the “smarts” to move the meth lab into something other than their grand kids cradle.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 amJoanintexas Says:
76/82 . . . and once again . . . the truth about liberals come bursting through.
(Joan then refers to herself in the third person, and laughs) It obviously escapes this poster that he just proved the point I made earlier:
Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.” “Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood . . .
Like a CONservative calling Progressives “dummy butts” and indicating they masturbate to Seasame Street?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 amJohnintexas Says:
50 . . . the Vice President didn’t “finally admit” to anything, so stop your lying and spin. Here is what he said (from the same article you linked to)
“George … did say and did testify that there was an ongoing relationship between al-Qaeda and Iraq, but no proof that Iraq was involved in 9-11.”
This was the Bush Administration’s position for many years following 9-11. It’s nothing new. It’s new to you because you obviously don’t bother to learn history.
There is absolute evidence that Saddam was involved with terrorists and terrorism. There is absolute evidence that he funneled funds towards many terrorist groups. There is absolute evidence that many terrorists and their supporters who were linked to Al Qaeda also dealt with Saddam.
But, the 9-11 operation was highly compartmentalized and very few knew about it. Saddam would have had no reason to know.
As I recall, Cheney went on MTP and lied about a connection between Mohammed Atta and Iraq. He said it was “pretty well confirmed.” It was not confirmed at all and was actually highly doubted by our intelligence agencies.
Yes, Saddam supported Hamas and Hezbollah suicide bombers by giving money to their families. But Hamas and Hezbollah were not al Qaeda, nor did either of them attack us on 9/11. Bush and Cheney tried to create a false link in people’s minds by constantly mentioning al Qaeda and Saddam in the same sentence. As Bu7sh said, they were “very careful not say Saddam had any connection to 9/11.” (Paraphrase of Bush’s own words.) But the fact that they were “very careful” means they knew people might interpret what they said as indicating some kind of link, which they would later deny saying. And they succeeded. Before the invasion, more than half the country thought Saddam had something to do with 9/11. They got this wrong impression from the things Bush and Cheney were publicly saying.
There was never any valid reason to invade Iraq and dispose of Saddam. No justifiable reason at all. None. Facts did not support invading, only the lie-based fear Bush and Cheney tried to spread across the country.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:36 amDebating with a blind, deaf, retarded pig.
O
K
A
Y…
How’s that work exactly?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 amJoanintexas Whines:
You are asking me to document facts which have already been well documented for the last 5-6 years. If you don’t keep up with professional reading like I do, it is not my job to fix your habits or ignorance.
Translation:
I don’t have the facts, and cannot research or “google” them on my own.
But hey, thanks for playing!
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 amPoorDeludedJuaninTejas ~ There was NO proof of any of the crap that you’re spewing. Fraud.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 amFor those interested in the White House report on health care reform and costs:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/cea/factsheets_reports/
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 amYou seem to be the only person who understands your so called point……it doesn’t count as a point unless it has at least some logic…..you really have a little bit of an inferiority complex it seems. That’s ok, we’re here to help.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:39 amTranslation:
I don’t have the facts, and cannot research or “google” them on my own.
Like a dying old man, sipping Ensure through a straw, he does the GOPig lazy man’s research:
Dick in one hand, O’Reilly on the TV.
A Republitards idea of judicious studying.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:39 am>There is absolute evidence that Saddam
> was involved with
>terrorists and terrorism.
The government of Saudi Arabi wasnt?
You ever heard about the telethons they had for Hamas?
We wernt involved with terrorists and terrorism? Would you consider the contras a terrorist group?
How about the Kurdish separatist group, I beleive the acronym is PUK…no wait, actually its PKK..its listed as a terrorist group by our OWN state department, as well as european governments..care to discuss our governmetns own involvement with that that terrorist group?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers‘_Party
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:42 amJohn @ 55,
“why aren’t you scared?”
Don’t you ever go to church?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:44 amFear is a SIN. To cause other people to fear is an even greater sin.
Fear NOT the Lord is with thee.
No I’m asking you to back up your statements. It is how logical, reasonable people do things. Most of us don’t take anything at face value especially from known liars.
I am guessing that what you are really saying is that you can’t prove any of it which I had already assumed to be the truth……
You are either lazy or a liar, either way you don’t deserve the floor.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:44 amFred, asking a question is dishonest? Maybe you want the For-profiteers redesigning health care, but it concerns me greatly.
I’ve seen over the years how unlikely partners, Rep. William Jefferson and Sen. Rick Santorum, came together to push through payment increases for dialysis companies. Guess who contributed to their campaigns?
I watched the tax push regarding nonprofit/safety net hospitals. This is a longtime for-profit hospital lobby position. It’s hot again, thanks to Chuck Grassley & Gail Wilensky.
Obama’s White House Health Czar spent eight years as a for-profiteer with CCMP Capital. She had a role in two nonprofit community hospitals changing stripes. One is in New Jersey and the other Idaho.
Dispute any of these facts, please. Then you can call me dishonest.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 amhow cute, johnintexas loses yet another argument when his sources are shown to be unreliable, so he resorts again to personal attacks
typical right wing coward (observation, not attack)
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 amYes and among other things it says this:
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:50 amSlowing the rate of health care costs……
so he resorts again to personal attacks
Shallow levels of intelligence take the shortest path to “security”.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 am> By this time next year, I predict thousands will have died
> from the street fighting and rioting that is to come. Many > cities will be under martial law
Living proof that meth and Glenn Beck don’t mix.
And I’m going to wager 100,000 shares of General Motors that
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 amyou’ll too much of a pansy to come back here in a year and admit your wrong, if it doesnt happen..
Or maybe it was just to convoluted to be considered a point or maybe it was above your capability to communicate your real point to somone outside of your diseased grey matter or maybe you are just continuing to lie to cover up othe lies……any way you put it, you said it and we understood it as you stated it and it was just piss ignorant and yet….you pretend to be intelligent……sad and pathetic.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 amhey Texas toilet I’m still waiting for your explanation of how exactly it is that liberals think the world revolves around them and thats why they reject christianity, that insisted for hundreds of years that other celestrial bodies revolved around us?
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 amThe report also cites the President’s budget with over $600 billion in reserve funding for health care reform. That part didn’t pass in Congress.
As for businesses and their plans, it’s to do less. The report cites the unfair burden of health insurance costs in competing in a world economy.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Content/News/News-Releases/2009/May/Out-Of-Pocket-Health-Care-Costs-Rise-For-Workers-With-Employer-Coverage.aspx
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 amThe Fake Texan needs to know that crusty, dried cum rag under his bed is hard evidence (no pun) to the thousands of “potential lives” he murdered.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 amjohn fell for Cheney’s terrorism because he’s too much of a pussy to believe America is strong enough to defeat terrorism without resorting to war and torture
he’s just a pussy
a redneck, inbred, ignorant, home-schooled, racist, hillbilly fukcstick pussy
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 amjohn is signing off in five minutes because he has been proven wrong and he can’t take the ridicule he so richly deserves
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 amIt’s dishonest for you to imply that nothing has changed and that nothing good will happen. It may not be everything we want but it will be better than what we have now.
Your continued attacks of Obama’s choices are just that and nothing more. Results will tell the story. Lets give these people the same chance that everyone else has gotten before we condemn thier efforts.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 amJohn is signing off… YAY!
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 amYou are dishonest and a liar. You made the statements, it’s your responsiblility to prove it, not mine to disprove it. Get back under your bed you phony.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 amYou may have a high opinion of yourself but I’m betting you are the only one in the world that does…..I’m betting your mommy don’t even believe you.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 amJohnintexas Says:
50 . . . the Vice President didn’t “finally admit” to anything, so stop your lying and spin.
This was the Bush Administration’s position for many years following 9-11. It’s nothing new. It’s new to you because you obviously don’t bother to learn history.
________
Up yours… just because you make up stuff and pull it steaming right out of your Cheney doesn’t make it “factual”…
Ye gods you’re pathetic…
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 amIf you were half as brilliant as you think(wiley coyote)you would have understood Choc’s point perfectly well. Go back and read it again you idgit.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 amjohn is a coward
that is why he falls for the terrorism of Dick Cheney
just another redneck pussy afraid of freedom
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 amPhony Texan thinks that when we’re speaking about it, and down to it, that we’re “engaging” it.
Cute, in a sad, pathetically ignorant way.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 amJohnintexas Says:
Please . . . grow up . . . do me a favor and come back and engage me when you’re old enough to shave.
Ah, the untrammeled arrogance of the “conservative” know it all. Reminds me of a certain meat-seller from New Mexico or wherever. Another pompous wingnut who gets all his information from World Net Daily and Freerepublic. I don’t remember that the other one was an obvious bigot, but he did leave before Obama was elected so perhaps he just didn’t have a chance to demonstrate his fear and hatred of Black people.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 amJohnintexas Says:
And once again, you are (obviously deliberately) missing the point: Saddam’s connection to terrorism and world-wide terrorist supporters is well-documented. What exactly about that linkage is it that you don’t understand?
But he wasn’t connected to the people who attacked us on 9/11. So what was the justification for invading Iraq? I said this before and you ignored it, so I’ll say it again:
Every reason they gave that was a justification for war turned out not to be true. Every reason they gave that turned out to be true was not a justification for war.
Nothing that was true about Saddam was justification for invading Iraq and removing him from office. Since we had no business going into Iraq in the first place, we have to leave as soon as practicable.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 amAt 10:08am, Joanintexas posted this quote:
Libs often come from caring, loving homes . . . too caring and too loving is the problem. Their parents were often weak and ineffective, so the liberal grows up spoiled rotten and thinking HE/SHE is the center of the world.
To which I responded that I’ve seen the light and I will no longer be a caring and loving father.
She then claims I’m lying, that she never said that. But there it is in highlighted in bold above.
Is anyone as confused by her ramblings as I am?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 amYou don’t even know enough to understand what debating is about. You make wild statements but refuse to back them up. You are no debater, instead you wish to lecture and expect us to believe you…..ha.
You are just a pathetic liar who can’t back up his lies and therefore challenges others to prove you are wrong. Grow up little one. That crap might work on the playground but not among adults.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 am> So what? What’s the point?
> Are you tring to draw some moral
> equivalency between the US
> and Al Qaeda? The US and Saddam?
What I’m trying to say, you illiterate inbred, is that
the very same same arguments you use to try and draw a connection between Iraq and “terror” could be used to draw a
connection beween the united states and “terror”
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
Do you know we armed and aided saddam when he was at his nastiest, right? You do know the only WMD he ever had was the ones we sold him, right? So what your saying is that when we arm and support terrorists, its ok? But somehow when other coutries do it, its a justification for invading them…right?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 amsoiledintexas says”
“I’m a pussy! help! protect me from all evils, real and imagined!!”
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 amJoanintexas claiming:
I’m signing off in five minutes so you better hurry.
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Yet, posts:
what to do? Oh, hey, I got it . . . spin!
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Okay, now who’s the liar???
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 amjohn is a liar and a coward
it has been proven now
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 am> do me a favor and come back and engage
> me when you’re old enough to shave.
oh please do regale us with your intellectual pedigree mista texas toilet….are you a retired millionaire vietnam war veteran who come on this board and spout the same crap you do?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 amNo, it’s more like:
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 amGod this guy makes unsubstantiated claims and shows no evidence to support his ignorant statements so why show him any respect at all, he definatly doesn’t deserve it.
sorry, i meant to ask “are you a retired millionaire vietnam war veteran lawyer like so many others who come on this board and spout the same crap you do?”
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 amPhony Texan has trouble posting chickenhawk talking point between drying cars as they come out of the car wash.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 amBy the way Texas Toilet, you do know that John Yoo, one of president bush’s primary sources of legal advice, basically claimed that an american president has the right to do any and every terrible thing saddam did, as long as the president claims he’s doing it to “fight terror”…do you agree with Bush’s lawyer that this is the case? Do you agree that the united states president can sexually torture children if he feels like doing it?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 amHitler peed standing up. You know what I’m talking about.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 am>do me a favor and come back and engage me
after i read this a second time a was a little suprised..i thought republicans were against gay marriage..
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 am> Hitler peed standing up.
> You know what I’m talking about.
yeah he also wiped after every bowel movement…certainly a solid argument that good anal hygeniene is practiced only by nazi sympathizers..
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 amFred, you say tomato, I say tomato.
I’m watching the for-profit insider players and the health care reform tea leaves.
I share cases where pay for performance distorts (executive stock options, Wall Street, Columbia/HCA), Obama’s “answer” for all the structural problems in health care. Why will it work better in health care? Surely doctors and nurses are as smart as CEO’s.
Read the CEA report. It claims funding that hasn’t passed. Solutions don’t match up well with identified problems. Guess who gets no mention in expanding coverage, large employers. They hire lots of no benefit contractors.
The report also implies everyone will be covered. Sen Max Baucus already said illegal immigrants won’t be included. That’s 9-12 million people.
You can dish out shots, but haven’t disputed my points. Some one needs to watch the details of health care reform. You can join the effort or stay a TP enforcer.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 amAnyone else getting an irrational urge to play Deutchland Uber Alles on a kazoo?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 amWatchdog: Progressives are stupid dummy butts.
The intelligence just shines through!
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:35 amJohnny Do you really not GET how stupid you are? You aer a brainwashed punk regurgitating what you were TOLD to beleive. You arent taken seriously. You are like a mentally challenged six year old. Do you seriously think people are going to waste their time arguing your stupid rightwing propaganda for the twentieth time? The same stupidity that we dispatched years ago dozens of times? The fact YOU are so stupid you are still spewing it on demand just like the screechmonkeys that do your thinking for you program you to doesnt mean we are going through the whole boring thing AGAIN. You are a moron Johnny. A brainwashed moron. You are so stupid it is pathetic. Isnt it time for Rush to tell you what you think TODAY?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:35 amRegarding Watchdog and his extremely intelligent comment I mentioned above, it reminds me of my son and his little friends when they were about 3-years-old calling each other “tea pot head” and “poopy apple head.”
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 am>how can you blame intel agencies for making
>a mistake like that?
When they get all thier info from an alchoholic iraqi defector codenamed “curveball”, who was paid by a convicted felon and embezzler to give the information he gave.
It wasnt a mistake. They said “they knew where the weapons were”. It wasnt a mistake. It was a lie.
And oh yes, I’m still waiting for this enormous list of terrorst groups saddam was involved with. And I’m also waiting for the list of other countries who funded those same groups, and the explanation of why we didnt bomb those countries as well.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 amI’m still waiting for you to make a point. All you seem to be capable of is attacking the very people who are tryin to change things.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 ami see john lied about leaving and ’signing out’
just another ignorant lying right wing pussy
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 amToiletinTexas says:
You are aware that Jesus was the world’s first known liberal?
(sorry to be late to the party for that, but too much work got in the way)
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 am1)Bullshit
2)Even if it were true why not all the other countries that fit that exact same profile? Why Iraq?
See when you get right down to actually talking about your “thoughts” they really seem dumb.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 amThe CEA report reinforces my original question:
workers would have to spend a larger fraction of their take-home pay on deductibles and co-payments.
This is in reference to employers shifting to high deductible health plans
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 am>By being in Iraq, we have totally isolated
>Syria from Iran and broken any hope of future Baathist Party >unification.
PLease explain why Baathists used to be our friends in the middle east. You know Baathists are generally secular and dislike islamic fundamnentalists right? Please explain why having the groups we once gave saddam gas to kill running iraq is now a good thing. Please explain why the Iranian president receiving a royal welcome when he visits iraq is a good thing.
And please tell me why christian churches didnt start getting burned down in Iraq until after we got rid of saddam?
The incredibly ironic thing is that Saddam did to the islamic nutballs exactly what you advocate doing to the islamic nutballs. He brought the hammer down on them but he was just “fighting terror” so I’m not sure why you have a problem with what he did. Iraq was by no means a paradise but there was much greater freedom of religious practice under saddam than there is in iraq today..
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 amJohnintexas Says:
It was only a matter of time before he fell and created a huge power vacuum that Iran and Syria stood ready to exploit. We had no choice but to take control.
What a dumb ass excuse! “We had no choice.” Here’s a news flash for you JOhnny Numbnuts, Iran has benefited greatly from the Iraq War. A friendly Shia government running Iraq and a huge counter weight to their power destroyed. Why does the US “have” to take control, huh. In your delusional fantasy mind the world is nothing but the empire of right wing tools like yourself and Chuck Norris. FCK OFF IDIOT!!
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:49 amAll stand and salute herr johnny. The un-American American.
I’m flagging you for promoting violence against children and victims with no conviction and cruel and unusual ignorance.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:49 am>There were many sources.
such as? any pictures? one MOLECULE of actual visual or tacticle proof? all there was were rumours and innuendo!
and what about all the sources that said saddam had ended his wmd program long ago? there were none of those, were there?
they said they knew where they were…they didnt….so thats called “a lie” in big boy language..
even if he did, so what? you do know even our own own wmd hunter mr. darfur thought the allegations of connections between alqueda and saddam were absurd. Pakistan was run by a dictator named musharraif(???) and was peddling nuclear weapons…why didnt we invade them?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:50 amOur resident Phony Texan shows his true colors.
Got a hard-on for AIPAC, don’t ya Jew boy?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:54 am> And if this means crushing the
> little testicles of his
> children
I didnt limit the question to “the terrorists children” only, you goon…
While we’re playing in your imaginary world where “24″ is reality and all the advice of real, trained interrorgators carries no weight, let me change the hypothetical:
What if this terrorist has no children but is in fact sypathetic to negro children so that crushing the testicles of a random negro child is the only way to get hime to talk?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:55 amDo you still say go for it?
>slid down the slope of banality to sexually
>torturing little children. How idiotic . .
Yes even though this exact scenario was put in front of the presidents legal counsel and he gave his opinion that there was no restraints on the presidents power to do this, my hypo is idiotic.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:00 pmI don’t want to put words in Johnny Tejas’s mouth, but he’s a fck wit anyway so…
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:00 pmOf course he would crush the balls of any man or child regardless of ethnicity or age as long as it helped foiling the big, bad terrarists imaginary plot.
John, you are nothing but a chicken sht coward. Wipe the piss off the front of your pants and crawl back underneath your bed and wait for the rapture you fcking pussyass mutherfcker!!
Johnintexas Says:
From enhanced interrogation techniques we have now slid down the slope of banality to sexually torturing little children.
Coincidentally enough, it appears that the sexual torture of children did happen.
Let me set you straight . . . if I have a man in my custody who I believe has information that will help prevent an attack on a US city . . . if I can’t get his cooperation through interrogation then I will attempt to break his will in some other way. And if this means crushing the little testicles of his children . . . bring out the pliers.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pmAnd if he didn’t have any information after all? Will you do the honorable thing and shoot your brains out, or will you live on as a coward? After all, you had nothing but good intentions when you were crushing the little kid’s balls.
Oh, and Texas toilet…what if we, say, get “bad intel”, like we did about saddam having wmd and we end up crushing the wrong childs testicles because say, we got someone’s name misspelled…let me guess…as long as mr “we know where saddams weapons are” thinks it “might” be the right child to sexually mutilate, thats good enough for you, right?
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:04 pmJohnnyA$$
My GOD you are ignorant you just SAY things and expect that to turn fantasy into fact let me help you out you insufferable moron 149
1 LIAR. The only thing anyone showed was MEETINGS. The CIA used to MEET with the KGB didnt mean they were taking long walks in the moonlight. The Senate intelligence comittee looked into this DIRECTLY and said there was NO EVIDENCE OF A COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP and no other kind matters. That is a DIRECT refutation of your blather not to mention the 2002 NIE said DIRECTLY that they did not BELIEVE that Saddam would comit terrorism against the US NOR ALLOW any weapons they DID Have to be used FOR terrorism. Simple put you are a liar and a brainwashed fool.
2 LIAR. First it was the WMDs the WMDs they litter Iraq like so many cigarette butts the WMDs ok so there arent any WMDs 9/11 it is about 9/11 ok so he WASNT involved in 9/11 but al Queda he is working with al Queda they work together, ok so they ARENT Workign with al Queda give me a minute… Yeah we are going to FREE the Iraqis, at least the ones we kill even though they never ASKED us to free them. The given reasons changed like the tides and were all WRONG. The Bush administration were LIARS kind of like YOU are a liar.
3 My GOD you are stupid. So if a dictator is losing his grip, which there really wasnt any evidence that means WE have an obligation to INVADE so as to stop what again? Iran HAS a lot of power NOW in Iraq you are saying we invaded to stop THAT from happening? Did you drink a couple extra cups of STUPID today? Your agument is ludicrous on the FACE OF IT.
4 You rarely hear about it because it is LUNACY. You have to be brainwashed beyond BELIEF to repeat such idiocy. Saddam NEVER would have invaded Saudi Arabia. The entire country is like a church to Islam. No Modern Muslim leader would EVER invade Saudi Arabia it would unite the entire Muslim world against them. Bush Sr LIED when he said Saddam was massing troops on the Saudi border he was caugh red HANDED in the lie when a Florida newspaper bought satelite photographs OF the Saudi/Kuwaiti border. NO TROOPS. Then again you eat up ANY lie that says something you want to hear. My GOD you are stupid
5 So we invaded Iraq because we wanted to be in place to keep Iran in check a country that hasnt invaded anyone since the time of Xerxes? I can not believe how stupid and brainwashed you are. Do you REALLY think that makes sense? We kill a few hundred thousand and lose thousands of American troops to get them close to a country that has NEVER threatend us nor IS a threat? The Iranians are not Arabs. Racial politics is HUGE in the region which is why they take turns slaughtering the Kurds. Iran is as far as they are concerned surrounded by enemies. The Iraq/Iran war had its roots in racial discord. Read a book for Gods sake the screechmonkeys that do your thinking for you have you dancing around like an organ grinders monkey with NO CLUE what you are talking about.
6 This one is so stupid we have to take it apart bit by bit
Something else you rarely read about or hear discussed:
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Like the other things you think are rarely discussed it is because they are fantasies that you were TOLD to believe and dont even make sense
By being in Iraq, we have totally isolated Syria from Iran and broken any hope of future Baathist Party unification.
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The Baath party is not in power in Iran. The Baath party is secular quasi Socialist party they have NO real power in Iran.
Isolating Syria means Israel can pursue peace initiatives with Jordan and Turkey.
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What a moron you are. The Golan Heights are STILL occupied by Israel so thats all it can POSSIBLY be. John you are a moron and you just embarass yourself by showing just how little you know about what you are spewing and how insanely and utterly brainwashed you are.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:05 pmhey texas toilet, heres another hypo for you…what if the terrorist is a radical right wing christian, say, like a smarter timothy mcveigh, and OBAMA BELIVES the only way to get him to crack and save 100000 american lives is forcing him to watch 100 unwilling forced abortions of white american womens white fetuses? would you start scooping those babies brains out for obama tough guy?
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:08 pmwatchdog Says:
Al Gore seems to have the same problem as Obama living what he preaches. Progressives are stupid dummy butts.
Thank you so much for demonstrating your intellectual gravitas.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 pmI dropped another paragraphs
Isolating Syria means Israel can pursue peace initiatives with Jordan and Turkey.
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This is insanely stupid. Israel has had a peace treaty and normalized relations with Jordan since the mid nineties and Turkey was the FIRST Muslim nation to recognize Israel in 1949 they have NEVER been at war nor close to it. They clash sometimes DIPLOMATICALLY over treatment of the Palestinians but thats about like saying WE need a peace treaty with France. You are so stupid and brainwashed I am embarassed for you since apparantly you are too stupid to know how stupid and brainwashed you are.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:11 pmSince TexasToilet stopped talking, does anyone care to speculate about whether he would be willing to perform forced abortions on white american women (lets say, the suriving female members of the branch davidians) if obama believed it would get a christian terrorist like timothy mcveigh to talk about a ticking time bomb worse than the one he set??
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:20 pmQ.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:32 pmMerdud = ruptured rectum?
Wasn’t it Johnisaputz that bragged yesterday about hearing from his son for the second time in 31 years when he thanked him for talking his mother out of having an abortion? Now he’s giving parental advice.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pmThe cancervative mind. Yesterday he was preaching that life begins at conception and today he’s crushing testicles of small children.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:46 pmI see Captain Condescension is still buzzing about, with his unsourced hooey.
And if this means crushing the little testicles of his children . . . bring out the pliers.
It’s a short hop from victim to terrorist, when you’re a conservative. They literally have no remorse for any acts, even those they are contemplating.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm>Let me set you straight .
First he wants to engage me then he wants to set me straight…he must be getting his marriage counseling advice from Ted Haggard. I gotta love it when the irrestitable force
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:13 pmof presidental power slams up against the immovable wall of fetal sancity. apparently a childs testicles are safe from republican pliers…so long at the child remains unborn…after that…watch out junior…..can someone tell me which constitutional amendment makes a distinction between forced abortion and sexual mutilation of children? because Texas TOilet seeemed downright excited about snipping juniors mountain oysters on a hunch it it MIGHT be helpful to national security, but he got awful quiet when the hypotethical methods of gleaning information became forced abortions.
they may invite representatives from the government of Iran‘ to their Independence Day celebrations,” which usually “feature hot dogs,….
Uh, hope they read about the dietary restrictions in Islam beforehand !
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:33 pmConservativeForProgress
Better question why are conservatives so STUPID?
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pmContard,
You might begin someday to understand why nobody will ever take you seriously here, phucking deepsheet.
I suggest you start TODAY.
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm>Playboy has pulled its hate-filled article from >a “Progressive” writer, Tommy Christopher.
Your right..certainly some random article in a PORNO MAG is something the liberal movement in general should have have to defend. Jesus dont you have any links to articles about prejudice against gay dogs that would be relevant to the discussion? As colbert said, if a woman marries a snake in india, homosexuals in america should definitely have to answer for it. I mean, one naughty rape slash fiction article in a dying, and frankly pretty lame porno mag is waaaay worse than the constant libelous vile and venom that comes from the mouths of “stop the babykiller” o-reilly , rush “f#ck the sp1cs and pass the oxy” limbaugh, and michelle “this sick kids parents are bumbs so I’ll give everyone their address” malkin,,,,christ on a stick the things you bring up are just inaner and inaner every day..
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pmby the way, your username is an oxymoron.
I found this ironic sentence in your link:
I guess you guys are just mad because someone that wasn’t a consevative said something offensive….
June 2nd, 2009 at 2:10 pmLooks like we have gone from the idiotic, senseless posts by m….d to the hate-filled, racist posts by JiT.
June 2nd, 2009 at 2:13 pmFlag his posts, please.
Why are “Progressives” so filled with hate?
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Correction: The offensive article is by Guy Cimbalo, not Tommy Christopher as earlier reported.
But don’t let a little thing like jumping to a wrong conclusion stop you from pushing your bullshit meme, Conny.
June 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pmNah, that was Slappy Bastinado. Although they might be the same guy.
Sometimes I picture all our trolls as one poor deluded multi-personality psychopath… with multiple computers surrounding him in the basement.
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:52 pmSKdeAnt
Even the ones that arent the same weasel using sockpuppets sure share the same weak hivemind. The Limborg hivemind
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 pmFunny, CNN made some of the same observations I did about the CEA report on health care cost savings.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/02/obama.health.reform/
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:32 pmExcuse me for not making myself clear, Sir Fred. I wasn’t responding directly to any of Choc’s posts. I did express incredulity at one of CFP’s posts, in a way that could be described as smart-as*ed, but I don’t care.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 pmWhat the F?!? You misidentify me and trash me through the whole thread, post 1 tiny correction, no apology, no deleting all of the other comments misidentifying me as the author of the Playboy piece, instead of THE OPPOSITE OF THAT?
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 pmMake your apologies at DailyDose.us
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 pmHey Kevin. I just saw the YouTube video about web 3.0 and I have had this idea about our future economy.
June 6th, 2009 at 5:08 amIt’s a bit in tune with the Zeitgeist film. See, if all of our knowledge was shared, we couldn’t make money of it. Siki?
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I’m a musician and I kinda have the feeling that in the future people will pay for live performances, because we have computer software that is very close to sounding like a musical instrument, with a modelled human touch. So, if a person that has never played the guitar, can click a button and sound like Jimi Hendrix, than what is the coolness about all this digital music really? Infact, I think that the more advanced this gets, the less interesting it becomes. We are still in awe over a youngster that can make the violin cry and we will definately be in even more awe when a person can actually do with their fingers that what we can do in an iPhone application.