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	<title>Comments on: Cheney Acknowledges Passing The Buck On GM: Bush Didn&#8217;t &#8216;Want To Be The One Who Pulled The Plug&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester Lurks</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/03/cheney-bush-gm/comment-page-3/#comment-5671293</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester Lurks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well bUSH did say he was the CEO of the government and was going to run it like a business. He just never told us he was going to use Enron as his business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well bUSH did say he was the CEO of the government and was going to run it like a business. He just never told us he was going to use Enron as his business model.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5671293', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester Lurks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester Lurks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said jedzep!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said jedzep!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5671283', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester Lurks</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/03/cheney-bush-gm/comment-page-3/#comment-5671275</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester Lurks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush also passed the buck on the Iraq war, the mortgage/housing crisis, rising unemployment, health care, education, the financial crisis, the money fraud committed in Iraq, yep little georgie did a heck of a job in his 8 year reign of error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush also passed the buck on the Iraq war, the mortgage/housing crisis, rising unemployment, health care, education, the financial crisis, the money fraud committed in Iraq, yep little georgie did a heck of a job in his 8 year reign of error.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5671275', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the documentary &quot;Who Killed the Electric Car&quot; recently. Schade. I also an electric motorcycle on either &quot;Wired&quot; or &quot;Boingo, Boing&quot; that was totally hot, like fer sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the documentary &#8220;Who Killed the Electric Car&#8221; recently. Schade. I also an electric motorcycle on either &#8220;Wired&#8221; or &#8220;Boingo, Boing&#8221; that was totally hot, like fer sure.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670920', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Wang111 Says:

Speaking of George W. Bush:

On June 10, 2009, “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE” will start to disseminate thousands of copies of the post indicated below onto the Internet at lightning-like speed.&lt;/em&gt;

Congratulations, you&#039;ve invented spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Wang111 Says:</p>
<p>Speaking of George W. Bush:</p>
<p>On June 10, 2009, “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE” will start to disseminate thousands of copies of the post indicated below onto the Internet at lightning-like speed.</em></p>
<p>Congratulations, you&#8217;ve invented spam.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670905', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wang111</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wang111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of George W. Bush:

On June 10, 2009, “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE” will start to disseminate thousands of copies of the post indicated below onto the Internet at lightning-like speed. By the end of June, one will be able to go to Google, type “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her,” hit “Enter,” and find 1,000 or more copies indicating content of the post indicated below. If not—it would only be because the name “George W. Bush” has become substantially less popular on the Internet, and searches relating to “George W. Bush” would thus have turned up less results.

EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!

NOTICE! NOTICE! NOTICE!

If anyone believes that any non-Jewish Caucasian U.S. president within the next few decades has murdered any racial minority in the disgusting way George W. Bush murdered Margie Schoedinger, please contact “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE” immediately (by leaving one’s complaint at http://andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com/2009/01/online-anti-bush-educational-scholastic.html “Post a Comment”), and “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE” will disseminate thousands of copies of the relevant scandalous presidential information onto the Internet at lightning-like speed (including worldwide dissemination into numerous foreign countries if necessary—in the case that any non-Jewish Caucasian U.S. president has murdered “NUMEROUS” racial minorities in the way George W. Bush murdered Margie Schoedinger, AND the murders can be proved). The lovely, beautiful, and great countries of Russia and China are always by default informed of whatever scandalous presidential information—thousands of copies (general dissemination onto the Russian and Chinese Internet, dissemination into Russian and Chinese legislative and executive government units, Russian and Chinese national-security government units, etc.). Copies in Russia and China (general foreign Internet dissemination) shall indicate that the presidents of Russia and China are to be immediately informed of the information relating to scandal(s).

COPY OF POST OF JUNE 2009:

SCANDAL! SCANDAL! SCANDAL!

EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!

George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her.

“In her suit [against George W. Bush], Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. In addition to that, three unknown men attempted to kidnap her on October 26, 2000. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point, when she commits suicide” (http://www.drizzten.com/blog/2002/12/).

“One of those very least were George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003” (Leola McConnell (Nevada Progressive Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010). http://leolaforussenate.blogspot.com/2008/02/leola-mcconnell-for-us-senate.html).

Leola McConnell is correct: George W. Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Margie Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder.

George W. Bush is a racist hate criminal and hates black people (indicated at andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com).

BEWARE: If the president of the United States hates one for whatever reasons, he can continuously criminally stalk one to the point that one cannot get away from it, and one ultimately commits suicide in desperation to escape—he can murder people in this way.

George W. Bush is getting away with his murder of Margie Schoedinger—with no sheriff, court, or prosecutor to uphold the rule of law.

George W. Bush’s method of murdering Margie Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way.

George W. Bush should confess, come out with the names of all of the people whom he murdered in the disgusting way he murdered Margie Schoedinger, undergo execution, and accordingly find himself at the intersection where he would be free.

(There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. It exists very extensively in all major search engines. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her,” and hit “Enter.”)
_______________
Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
(a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”)
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of George W. Bush:</p>
<p>On June 10, 2009, “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE” will start to disseminate thousands of copies of the post indicated below onto the Internet at lightning-like speed. By the end of June, one will be able to go to Google, type “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her,” hit “Enter,” and find 1,000 or more copies indicating content of the post indicated below. If not—it would only be because the name “George W. Bush” has become substantially less popular on the Internet, and searches relating to “George W. Bush” would thus have turned up less results.</p>
<p>EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!</p>
<p>NOTICE! NOTICE! NOTICE!</p>
<p>If anyone believes that any non-Jewish Caucasian U.S. president within the next few decades has murdered any racial minority in the disgusting way George W. Bush murdered Margie Schoedinger, please contact “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE” immediately (by leaving one’s complaint at <a href="http://andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com/2009/01/online-anti-bush-educational-scholastic.html" rel="nofollow">http://andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com/2009/01/online-anti-bush-educational-scholastic.html</a> “Post a Comment”), and “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE” will disseminate thousands of copies of the relevant scandalous presidential information onto the Internet at lightning-like speed (including worldwide dissemination into numerous foreign countries if necessary—in the case that any non-Jewish Caucasian U.S. president has murdered “NUMEROUS” racial minorities in the way George W. Bush murdered Margie Schoedinger, AND the murders can be proved). The lovely, beautiful, and great countries of Russia and China are always by default informed of whatever scandalous presidential information—thousands of copies (general dissemination onto the Russian and Chinese Internet, dissemination into Russian and Chinese legislative and executive government units, Russian and Chinese national-security government units, etc.). Copies in Russia and China (general foreign Internet dissemination) shall indicate that the presidents of Russia and China are to be immediately informed of the information relating to scandal(s).</p>
<p>COPY OF POST OF JUNE 2009:</p>
<p>SCANDAL! SCANDAL! SCANDAL!</p>
<p>EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!</p>
<p>George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her.</p>
<p>“In her suit [against George W. Bush], Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. In addition to that, three unknown men attempted to kidnap her on October 26, 2000. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point, when she commits suicide” (<a href="http://www.drizzten.com/blog/2002/12/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.drizzten.com/blog/2002/12/)</a>.</p>
<p>“One of those very least were George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003” (Leola McConnell (Nevada Progressive Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010). <a href="http://leolaforussenate.blogspot.com/2008/02/leola-mcconnell-for-us-senate.html)" rel="nofollow">http://leolaforussenate.blogspot.com/2008/02/leola-mcconnell-for-us-senate.html)</a>.</p>
<p>Leola McConnell is correct: George W. Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Margie Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder.</p>
<p>George W. Bush is a racist hate criminal and hates black people (indicated at andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com).</p>
<p>BEWARE: If the president of the United States hates one for whatever reasons, he can continuously criminally stalk one to the point that one cannot get away from it, and one ultimately commits suicide in desperation to escape—he can murder people in this way.</p>
<p>George W. Bush is getting away with his murder of Margie Schoedinger—with no sheriff, court, or prosecutor to uphold the rule of law.</p>
<p>George W. Bush’s method of murdering Margie Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way.</p>
<p>George W. Bush should confess, come out with the names of all of the people whom he murdered in the disgusting way he murdered Margie Schoedinger, undergo execution, and accordingly find himself at the intersection where he would be free.</p>
<p>(There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. It exists very extensively in all major search engines. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her,” and hit “Enter.”)<br />
_______________<br />
Andrew Yu-Jen Wang<br />
(a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”)<br />
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996<br />
Messiah College, Grantham, PA<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670900', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ranus69</title>
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		<dc:creator>ranus69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shitney keep it up your doing wonders for the failed GOP. Why would anyone listen to Shitney?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shitney keep it up your doing wonders for the failed GOP. Why would anyone listen to Shitney?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670820', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jedzep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jedzep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How considerate of Bush and Cheney to leave the GM crisis to Obama.

I also applaud them on their generosity for letting the Obama administration take care of the mess that they created in Iraq. Dick and Bush are the best.

They were so thoughtful when they turned a record budget surplus that was handed to them by Clinton, into the biggest defecit in American history. We should all be really impressed that they were able to do this in such a short time.

The pure genius of record tax cuts for people who didn&#039;t need them, while starting a meaningless war over lies, and their own self interest can&#039;t be ignored either. What a brilliant way to lose federal money that might be needed someday. It seems so simple, but yet, so ingenious.

Obama should write them a thank you letter for letting Wall Street, and the credit and mortage lenders do what ever they wanted creating the biggest economic collapse since the Great Depression. Now, Obama can deal with it. That Cheney is one stand up guy.

Obama should also be thrilled, that he now has the responsibility of repairing our tarnished image throughout the rest of the world. It&#039;s astounding that in only 8 years America has gone from, &quot;A beacon of light&quot;, to a country that others don&#039;t and can&#039;t trust. It&#039;s amazing that they knew starting a bogus war, ignoring international laws, and the denial of the facts regarding climate change would cause the international community to now look at us as a discredited, out of touch, backwards country.

Maybe, Bush and Cheney were just thinking ahead. After all, when Bush sat down behind his desk in the oval office for the first time, he kicked back, put his feet up on his desk and said, &quot;Well, this is gonna be a cakewalk. Thanks Billy, I think it&#039;s time to go take a little vacation to Crawford.&quot;

They didn&#039;t want Obama to come in office and go on vacation right away. They wanted him to have something to do, and they made sure that on any issue, whether it be politically, economically, socially, or internationally related, he was going to have more to fix than any President (with regards to Lincoln and FDR) in history. They did a bang up job on that one. Heckuva job, guys!

The only thing Dubya had to do when he got in office was to not cheat on his wife. That was the big issue that got him elected. &quot;We need morality back in the White House.&quot; Even, with the surplus he was handed he could have granted minor tax cuts to the wealthy, while still being fiscally conservative, and no one would have cared at all. Instead, the Bush administration squandered it all away and left the next guy with the bill.

So, if Obama doesn&#039;t want to thank the Bush and Cheney administration, I will.

Thanks for the garbage economy.
Thanks for the bridges and levies that failed.
Thanks for the infrastructure that still needs repairing.
Thanks for doing nothing about our health care system that consistently ranks in the bottom half of all civillized nations.
Thanks for the bogus war in Iraq.
Thanks for letting Bin Laden run free in the Middle East, while you wasted our surplus, and created our defecit, on your bogus war.
Thanks for your denial about climate change.
Thanks for your supply-side, voodoo economic policies.
Thanks for telling me to go shopping after the tragic, terrorist attacks after 9/11. (I didn&#039;t go shopping, but thanks for the advice, anyway)
Thanks for declining our credibility around the rest of the world.
Thanks for all the vacations you took, while the rest of us get to take, maybe 2-3 weeks of vacation per year.
Thanks for making every single thing about America worse than it was when it was handed to you.

Most of all I would like to thank the Bush/Cheney administration for absolutely nothing.

Obama&#039;s the bad guy, hey?

If you think that, then it might be time to change the channel, or stop listening to AM radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How considerate of Bush and Cheney to leave the GM crisis to Obama.</p>
<p>I also applaud them on their generosity for letting the Obama administration take care of the mess that they created in Iraq. Dick and Bush are the best.</p>
<p>They were so thoughtful when they turned a record budget surplus that was handed to them by Clinton, into the biggest defecit in American history. We should all be really impressed that they were able to do this in such a short time.</p>
<p>The pure genius of record tax cuts for people who didn&#8217;t need them, while starting a meaningless war over lies, and their own self interest can&#8217;t be ignored either. What a brilliant way to lose federal money that might be needed someday. It seems so simple, but yet, so ingenious.</p>
<p>Obama should write them a thank you letter for letting Wall Street, and the credit and mortage lenders do what ever they wanted creating the biggest economic collapse since the Great Depression. Now, Obama can deal with it. That Cheney is one stand up guy.</p>
<p>Obama should also be thrilled, that he now has the responsibility of repairing our tarnished image throughout the rest of the world. It&#8217;s astounding that in only 8 years America has gone from, &#8220;A beacon of light&#8221;, to a country that others don&#8217;t and can&#8217;t trust. It&#8217;s amazing that they knew starting a bogus war, ignoring international laws, and the denial of the facts regarding climate change would cause the international community to now look at us as a discredited, out of touch, backwards country.</p>
<p>Maybe, Bush and Cheney were just thinking ahead. After all, when Bush sat down behind his desk in the oval office for the first time, he kicked back, put his feet up on his desk and said, &#8220;Well, this is gonna be a cakewalk. Thanks Billy, I think it&#8217;s time to go take a little vacation to Crawford.&#8221;</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t want Obama to come in office and go on vacation right away. They wanted him to have something to do, and they made sure that on any issue, whether it be politically, economically, socially, or internationally related, he was going to have more to fix than any President (with regards to Lincoln and FDR) in history. They did a bang up job on that one. Heckuva job, guys!</p>
<p>The only thing Dubya had to do when he got in office was to not cheat on his wife. That was the big issue that got him elected. &#8220;We need morality back in the White House.&#8221; Even, with the surplus he was handed he could have granted minor tax cuts to the wealthy, while still being fiscally conservative, and no one would have cared at all. Instead, the Bush administration squandered it all away and left the next guy with the bill.</p>
<p>So, if Obama doesn&#8217;t want to thank the Bush and Cheney administration, I will.</p>
<p>Thanks for the garbage economy.<br />
Thanks for the bridges and levies that failed.<br />
Thanks for the infrastructure that still needs repairing.<br />
Thanks for doing nothing about our health care system that consistently ranks in the bottom half of all civillized nations.<br />
Thanks for the bogus war in Iraq.<br />
Thanks for letting Bin Laden run free in the Middle East, while you wasted our surplus, and created our defecit, on your bogus war.<br />
Thanks for your denial about climate change.<br />
Thanks for your supply-side, voodoo economic policies.<br />
Thanks for telling me to go shopping after the tragic, terrorist attacks after 9/11. (I didn&#8217;t go shopping, but thanks for the advice, anyway)<br />
Thanks for declining our credibility around the rest of the world.<br />
Thanks for all the vacations you took, while the rest of us get to take, maybe 2-3 weeks of vacation per year.<br />
Thanks for making every single thing about America worse than it was when it was handed to you.</p>
<p>Most of all I would like to thank the Bush/Cheney administration for absolutely nothing.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s the bad guy, hey?</p>
<p>If you think that, then it might be time to change the channel, or stop listening to AM radio.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670755', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: woke</title>
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		<dc:creator>woke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word in particular describes both lilaWol and hallichainy.....

COWARDS

in every sense of the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word in particular describes both lilaWol and hallichainy&#8230;..</p>
<p>COWARDS</p>
<p>in every sense of the word.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670655', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: belaccifer lacca</title>
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		<dc:creator>belaccifer lacca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;pimped out Says:
No link?&lt;/em&gt;

No think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>pimped out Says:<br />
No link?</em></p>
<p>No think?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670460', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/03/cheney-bush-gm/comment-page-2/#comment-5670452</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says:

I&#039;m uncomfortable with the massive spending and the bailouts, but I haven&#039;t heard of a better plan.&lt;/em&gt;

Believe it or not, I&#039;m uncomfortable with the high spending levels too.  A lot of wingnuts like to paint Obama as someone who likes to spend ridiculous amounts of money, ignoring the fact that we&#039;re in a crisis at present, and under normal circumstances even a mainstream liberal (which Obama is) wouldn&#039;t want to run up the numbers nearly that much.  We&#039;d also like it to be as temporary as possible; if there was an appropriate place for conservatism today, it would be pushing for the temporary nature of stimulus investment and state ownership, rather than opposing all such investment and ownership &quot;on principle.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>backup Says:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m uncomfortable with the massive spending and the bailouts, but I haven&#8217;t heard of a better plan.</em></p>
<p>Believe it or not, I&#8217;m uncomfortable with the high spending levels too.  A lot of wingnuts like to paint Obama as someone who likes to spend ridiculous amounts of money, ignoring the fact that we&#8217;re in a crisis at present, and under normal circumstances even a mainstream liberal (which Obama is) wouldn&#8217;t want to run up the numbers nearly that much.  We&#8217;d also like it to be as temporary as possible; if there was an appropriate place for conservatism today, it would be pushing for the temporary nature of stimulus investment and state ownership, rather than opposing all such investment and ownership &#8220;on principle.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670452', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/03/cheney-bush-gm/comment-page-2/#comment-5670376</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ElBruce.

I agree with everything in that post.  I think the initial money was temporary.  I think Bush understood that the people wanted change.  I think it just made sense to let the guy that was going to be leading for the next 4 to 8 years to make the call.

I agree that Obama&#039;s plan is more comprehensive and targeted.

I&#039;m uncomfortable with the massive spending and the bailouts, but I haven&#039;t heard of a better plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ElBruce.</p>
<p>I agree with everything in that post.  I think the initial money was temporary.  I think Bush understood that the people wanted change.  I think it just made sense to let the guy that was going to be leading for the next 4 to 8 years to make the call.</p>
<p>I agree that Obama&#8217;s plan is more comprehensive and targeted.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m uncomfortable with the massive spending and the bailouts, but I haven&#8217;t heard of a better plan.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670376', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/03/cheney-bush-gm/comment-page-2/#comment-5670229</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;backup Says:

You can look at it as punting to not have to take responsibility for it, or you can look at it as the lame duck President giving the new administration the opportunity to make the call on an important circumstance.

I&#039;m not comfortable with huge, continual bailouts of corporations. But, the Obama administration&#039;s tact seems pretty similar to Bush&#039;s.

If Bush&#039;s spending huge amounts on bailing out troubled industries is punting, what is Obama&#039;s huge bailout spending?&lt;/em&gt;

The spending authorized while Bush was in office was specifically sold and designed as a temporary holdover until something more comprehensive could be done.  Obama&#039;s approach so far is considerably more comprehensive, investing into specific sectors rather than just throwing money at the whole thing.

Frankly, I agree with you and Cheney in one respect - the Bush administration &lt;strong&gt;shouldn&#039;t&lt;/strong&gt; have tried to fix everything in the last few months of their administration.  Keeping everything barely above water until Obama came to the rescue was the right call.  Even starting a fix and leaving it for Obama to finish would be inappropriate an ineffective.  On the one hand, you could say they showed remarkable respect to the incoming administration by leaving it for Obama to plan the response; or you could point out that if his response failed, that&#039;d leave him with a greater share of blame.  But either way, I&#039;d much rather have Obama take a whack at it than BushCo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>backup Says:</p>
<p>You can look at it as punting to not have to take responsibility for it, or you can look at it as the lame duck President giving the new administration the opportunity to make the call on an important circumstance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not comfortable with huge, continual bailouts of corporations. But, the Obama administration&#8217;s tact seems pretty similar to Bush&#8217;s.</p>
<p>If Bush&#8217;s spending huge amounts on bailing out troubled industries is punting, what is Obama&#8217;s huge bailout spending?</em></p>
<p>The spending authorized while Bush was in office was specifically sold and designed as a temporary holdover until something more comprehensive could be done.  Obama&#8217;s approach so far is considerably more comprehensive, investing into specific sectors rather than just throwing money at the whole thing.</p>
<p>Frankly, I agree with you and Cheney in one respect &#8211; the Bush administration <strong>shouldn&#8217;t</strong> have tried to fix everything in the last few months of their administration.  Keeping everything barely above water until Obama came to the rescue was the right call.  Even starting a fix and leaving it for Obama to finish would be inappropriate an ineffective.  On the one hand, you could say they showed remarkable respect to the incoming administration by leaving it for Obama to plan the response; or you could point out that if his response failed, that&#8217;d leave him with a greater share of blame.  But either way, I&#8217;d much rather have Obama take a whack at it than BushCo.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670229', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: belaccifer lacca</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/03/cheney-bush-gm/comment-page-2/#comment-5670214</link>
		<dc:creator>belaccifer lacca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;pimped out Says:
Truck sales..up.....LOL!

Compared to the little lib cars, asshat!&lt;/em&gt;

Ahh, yes.

I&#039;d heard that Toyota and Honda were dumping their hybrid divisions to build more trucks and SUV&#039;s... wait, where did I hear that? 

Oh yeah, in the delusional rantings of that crazy guy down the street... or is that you, pimped out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>pimped out Says:<br />
Truck sales..up&#8230;..LOL!</p>
<p>Compared to the little lib cars, asshat!</em></p>
<p>Ahh, yes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d heard that Toyota and Honda were dumping their hybrid divisions to build more trucks and SUV&#8217;s&#8230; wait, where did I hear that? </p>
<p>Oh yeah, in the delusional rantings of that crazy guy down the street&#8230; or is that you, pimped out?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670214', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
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		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can look at it as punting to not have to take responsibility for it, or you can look at it as the lame duck President giving the new administration the opportunity to make the call on an important circumstance.

I&#039;m not comfortable with huge, continual bailouts of corporations.  But, the Obama administration&#039;s tact seems pretty similar to Bush&#039;s.

If Bush&#039;s spending huge amounts on bailing out troubled industries is punting, what is Obama&#039;s huge bailout spending?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can look at it as punting to not have to take responsibility for it, or you can look at it as the lame duck President giving the new administration the opportunity to make the call on an important circumstance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not comfortable with huge, continual bailouts of corporations.  But, the Obama administration&#8217;s tact seems pretty similar to Bush&#8217;s.</p>
<p>If Bush&#8217;s spending huge amounts on bailing out troubled industries is punting, what is Obama&#8217;s huge bailout spending?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670184', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dasm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush &amp; Cheney: sleazy, dishonest, buck-passing Repub creeps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush &amp; Cheney: sleazy, dishonest, buck-passing Repub creeps.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670108', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JYD</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/03/cheney-bush-gm/comment-page-2/#comment-5670106</link>
		<dc:creator>JYD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything Bush and Cheney touched has been ruined...Afghanistan, Iraq, the economy...

They were able to ignore any issues/problems just long enough to pass the buck...The dems tried to get a fix on the housing/foreclosure crisis long ago and they would not go for it...as an example.

The repubs are obviously not just the party of NO...but they are also the party of NO SOLUTIONS...I have not seen ANY ideas coming from the repubs for any of the many issues of the day...i do see however their desire to see OBAMA FAIL...nice strategy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything Bush and Cheney touched has been ruined&#8230;Afghanistan, Iraq, the economy&#8230;</p>
<p>They were able to ignore any issues/problems just long enough to pass the buck&#8230;The dems tried to get a fix on the housing/foreclosure crisis long ago and they would not go for it&#8230;as an example.</p>
<p>The repubs are obviously not just the party of NO&#8230;but they are also the party of NO SOLUTIONS&#8230;I have not seen ANY ideas coming from the repubs for any of the many issues of the day&#8230;i do see however their desire to see OBAMA FAIL&#8230;nice strategy<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670106', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/03/cheney-bush-gm/comment-page-2/#comment-5670081</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just found this, on the googlenews page... 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;GM&#039;s Bankruptcy -- The Last Foolish Act&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]
What the Bankruptcy Really Means

Now that the bankruptcy filing has been made, with the U.S. government as a major shareholder, several things have become clear:

    * The federal money loaned to GM last December was simply wasted -- it only postponed things.
    * The U.S. government -- willingly or unwillingly -- is now involved in shaping the future of the U.S. auto industry. 
    * The United Auto Workers powerful political influence is going to be diminished, with uncertain ramifications.
    * While GM might be able to drive car costs down, the U.S. taxpayers will be paying a &quot;hidden&quot; tax on GM cars for years to come, whether that taxpayer buys a GM car or not.

The irony of all of this is that the U.S. government bailout last December was entirely unnecessary.

If Rick Wagoner had filed for bankruptcy last December, before any federal funds were provided, the company might have much greater flexibility to shape a restructuring plan today. 
[...]&lt;/em&gt;

http://news.briefing.com/GeneralContent/Investor/Active/ArticlePopup/ArticlePopup.aspx?ArticleId=NS20090603151812AheadOfTheCurve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just found this, on the googlenews page&#8230; </p>
<p><em><strong>GM&#8217;s Bankruptcy &#8212; The Last Foolish Act</strong></p>
<p>[...]<br />
What the Bankruptcy Really Means</p>
<p>Now that the bankruptcy filing has been made, with the U.S. government as a major shareholder, several things have become clear:</p>
<p>    * The federal money loaned to GM last December was simply wasted &#8212; it only postponed things.<br />
    * The U.S. government &#8212; willingly or unwillingly &#8212; is now involved in shaping the future of the U.S. auto industry.<br />
    * The United Auto Workers powerful political influence is going to be diminished, with uncertain ramifications.<br />
    * While GM might be able to drive car costs down, the U.S. taxpayers will be paying a &#8220;hidden&#8221; tax on GM cars for years to come, whether that taxpayer buys a GM car or not.</p>
<p>The irony of all of this is that the U.S. government bailout last December was entirely unnecessary.</p>
<p>If Rick Wagoner had filed for bankruptcy last December, before any federal funds were provided, the company might have much greater flexibility to shape a restructuring plan today.<br />
[...]</em></p>
<p><a href="http://news.briefing.com/GeneralContent/Investor/Active/ArticlePopup/ArticlePopup.aspx?ArticleId=NS20090603151812AheadOfTheCurve" rel="nofollow">http://news.briefing.com/GeneralContent/Investor/Active/ArticlePopup/ArticlePopup.aspx?ArticleId=NS20090603151812AheadOfTheCurve</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670081', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B-B-b-b-b-b--b-ut Bush is &quot;The Decider&quot; !

Looks like Molly Ivins &quot;BushWacked&quot; was right on the mark.  Georgie ran the country into the ground and left the mess to cripple the next administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B-B-b-b-b-b&#8211;b-ut Bush is &#8220;The Decider&#8221; !</p>
<p>Looks like Molly Ivins &#8220;BushWacked&#8221; was right on the mark.  Georgie ran the country into the ground and left the mess to cripple the next administration.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670031', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: belaccifer lacca</title>
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		<dc:creator>belaccifer lacca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;pimped out Says:
GM pretends that the people WANTED large SUVs and other trucks.

Truck sales..up.....LOL!&lt;/em&gt;
2008 to 2009
Ford SUV sales? Down 63%
Ford Truck sales? Down 50%
and
Chrysler Truck sales? Down 41% 
Despite a massive buyers incentive program...

http://forums.trucktrend.com/70/7475444/truck-talk/february-2009-truck-suv-and-crossover-sales-number/index.html

Facts? LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>pimped out Says:<br />
GM pretends that the people WANTED large SUVs and other trucks.</p>
<p>Truck sales..up&#8230;..LOL!</em><br />
2008 to 2009<br />
Ford SUV sales? Down 63%<br />
Ford Truck sales? Down 50%<br />
and<br />
Chrysler Truck sales? Down 41%<br />
Despite a massive buyers incentive program&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.trucktrend.com/70/7475444/truck-talk/february-2009-truck-suv-and-crossover-sales-number/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://forums.trucktrend.com/70/7475444/truck-talk/february-2009-truck-suv-and-crossover-sales-number/index.html</a></p>
<p>Facts? LOL!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5670029', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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