Will O’Reilly Continue To Host Ann Coulter After She Refused To ‘Condemn’ The Murder Of George Tiller?
Will O’Reilly Continue To Host Ann Coulter After She Refused To ‘Condemn’ The Murder Of George Tiller?
Despite his refusal to back down from his demonization of Dr. George Tiller, who was murdered on Sunday, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly has repeatedly said that Americans should “condemn” Tiller’s murder. “Clear-thinking Americans should condemn the murder of late term abortionist Tiller,” said O’Reilly on his Monday show. “Every American condemns the Tiller murder,” he added on Tuesday. Watch it:
But at least one of O’Reilly’s regular guests has refused to condemn the murder. In her column yesterday, Ann Coulter never explicitly condemned the murder. Instead, she mocked and appeared to excuse it:
The official Web page of the ELCA instructs: “A developing life in the womb does not have an absolute right to be born.” As long as we’re deciding who does and doesn’t have an “absolute right to be born,” who’s to say late-term abortionists have an “absolute right” to live?
I wouldn’t kill an abortionist myself, but I wouldn’t want to impose my moral values on others. No one is for shooting abortionists. But how will criminalizing men making difficult, often tragic, decisions be an effective means of achieving the goal of reducing the shootings of abortionists?
Following the moral precepts of liberals, I believe the correct position is: If you don’t believe in shooting abortionists, then don’t shoot one.
On Sunday, Adele Stan recalled how Coulter had previously mocked abortion-related murders, saying that victims, “depending on your point of view, had a procedure performed on them with a rifle.”
According to a Nexis search, Coulter has appeared on O’Reilly’s show six times in the last six months. Considering that he believes all “clear-thinking Americans should condemn the murder,” will O’Reilly continue to host someone who refuses to do so?
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Frankly, I don’t give a damn…
June 4th, 2009 at 1:40 pm“Clear-thinking Americans should condemn the murder of late term abortionist Tiller,”
There’s O’Reilly’s out… clearly, Coulter does not fit the definition of clear-thinking….
June 4th, 2009 at 1:40 pmI’m sure Ann Coulter would be delighted if everybody who didn’t see the world through her narrow, hateful, bigoted lens got wiped from the face of the earth. She will never see the absurdity of protecting life inside the womb at all costs while valuing life so little outside it.
Off-topic — Actor David Carradine has died at the age of 72. He was found dead in his hotel room in Thailand, and it may have been a suicide according to early repots. RIP, David.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:45 pmO’Reilly why don’t you go and get Liz Cheney to be a guest on your show, I’m sure she would agree with you O’Reilly the “cowardly ambusher?”
June 4th, 2009 at 1:46 pmBill-O would NEVER miss a chance to give any Reich Wing Wacko a platform . . . he LIVES for the chance to prove how wonderful he is to provide an alternate universe for these folks to operate in.
He is a hate based shock jock entertainer with his loofah buried deep in the “right” side . . . .
June 4th, 2009 at 1:47 pmWho?
June 4th, 2009 at 1:47 pmOf coarse O’Reilly will have Ann back on; it gives him the perfect opportunity to play good cop/bad cop.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:50 pmMann Coulter: “I wouldn’t kill an abortionist myself, but I wouldn’t want to impose my moral values on others.”
Since when?
June 4th, 2009 at 1:51 pmJust when I thought that mAnn Coulter had reached the epitome of ugliness and hate, she has to go and fool me.
There’s a special place in hell reserved for this vile person.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:51 pm“… I wouldn’t want to impose my moral values on others. “
I almost fell off my chair when I read that. Who the hell does she think she’s kidding?? The depth of self-denial is astonishing!
June 4th, 2009 at 1:52 pmMelMat Says:
“… I wouldn’t want to impose my moral values on others. ”
I almost fell off my chair when I read that. Who the hell does she think she’s kidding?? The depth of self-denial is astonishing!
Nah. She’s just lying through her teeth because she thinks it’s funny.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:52 pmAnd let’s not forget another point Ann made in her column — that 49 million abortions have been performed (her statistic — not sure where she got it, or if it’s correct) since Roe v. Wade, and “only” 5 abortionists have been murdered in that time (again, her statistic).
I guess until the number of murdered abortionists reaches the number of abortions performed, it’s OK with her.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:53 pmmisscoleopteramolly Says:
Off-topic — Actor David Carradine has died at the age of 72. He was found dead in his hotel room in Thailand, and it may have been a suicide according to early repots. RIP, David.
The picture they show of him is very sad. He looks completely wasted. I often wonder how people who made it big end up with such a pitiful ending.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:54 pmWill O’Reilly Continue To Host Ann Coulter After She Refused To ‘Condemn’ The Murder Of George Tiller?
– - Animosity is temporary; residuals are forever.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:54 pm“Manson-ite Media Mavens Mouth Gollum v. Smeagol for Morans”
June 4th, 2009 at 1:54 pmCome on, folks, really! Knowing his hypocrisy and past actions, is this even worth discussing?
June 4th, 2009 at 1:55 pmMan……you cant H A T E these NEOCONS enough….
June 4th, 2009 at 1:55 pmi don’t care and neither should you. what does it matter?
June 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pmThe ReichWing Propagandist who spread their “Hate Speech” are now trying very hard to distance themselves from it…
…for purely self interest reasons, they don’t want law officials or lawyers knocking on their door.
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
June 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pmI wouldn’t kill an abortionist myself, but I wouldn’t want to impose my moral values on others.
How self serving can one get?
mAnn, we didn’t know you had moral values. Supporting killers is a ‘moral value’? What part of moral escapes your boney ass?
Back when you were a man, did you oppose abortion? How about when you were doing lap dances in Florida?
Your lies are as big as your Adam’s apple. Your mouth should be bleached on a daily basis.
I can only think of 2 other Cancervatives as despicable as you; Wiener & Blubber Boy.
Coulter, take a long walk off a short cliff. I hear the view if good this time of year.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
The picture they show of [Carradine] is very sad. He looks completely wasted. I often wonder how people who made it big end up with such a pitiful ending.
Remember the pics of Bush falling down drunk at the Beijing Olympics?
PEACE
June 4th, 2009 at 2:00 pmTo answer the question…
…you would have to presume that being a “clear-thinking American” was a prerequisite for appearing on O’Reilly’s show. Since he isn’t one himself, why would he impose that condition on others?
By the way, EVERYONE should refuse to appear on O’Reilly’s show, with or without his consent.
Starve The Beast
June 4th, 2009 at 2:00 pmRandi Rhodes interviewed a knowledgeable person concerning Tiller’s job performance.
It turns out, as I suspected, he performed these type of abortions on women with grave situations. As he was one of a handful that would perform these abortions, refereed patients in true need traveled from many other states to have this done.
What I want to know is how did this medically needed procedure, a procedure done for many years, become exploited by the religious right nuts for their use on their war against abortion?
June 4th, 2009 at 2:00 pmIf O’Reilly was only limited to having “clear thinking Americans” as guests he would just be doing soliloquies (not that his ego would mind 100% air time.) “Clear thinking Americans” wouldn’t appear on his show if they were thinking clearly.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:03 pmI don’t think O’Reilly could have any “clear-minded” American except hardcore Christian Fundamentalist Terrorist on his show. Which we all know they aren’t of the “clear-minded” set of people. O’Reilly why don’t you go and get Mike Savage or Rush hey maybe your boy Hannity or even Perry or Sanford would agree with you. Otherwise, if anyone goes on the O’Reilly Ambush Hour and agree with him on(RIP DR. Tiller) murder than they would have agreed to murdering him like O’Reilly has done and it would be an end to their careers. Who would do that?
June 4th, 2009 at 2:04 pmI guess that means its okay with mAnn if I shoot her, because I disagree with her, right?
Well, if I ever snap and fly into a homicidal rage, I’ll be sure to remember that.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:08 pmIsn’t is amazing how much BO is paid to lie? Where is the moral outrage? I mean really! I stopped being shocked when I hear that his ratings are “huge” now I’m just dumbfounded.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:10 pmCoulter is to morals what Limbaugh is to truth.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:11 pmCoultergeist: “. . . who’s to say late-term abortionists have an ‘absolute right’ to live?”
Who’s to say that smug, arrogant hate-merchants like her have an “absolute right” to live? Now, that’s an interesting question.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:11 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
You are either intentionally pretending to miss her snarky point, or are too stupid to see it?
Please, for your own good, if you are old enough to get in, find a Critical Thinking class at your local JC and take it. You need to learn about critical thinking more than anyone I have ever seen.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:24 pmC4Pee, one more time for the hard-of-thinking:
there is NO ‘”pro-abortion crowd”.
No one favors MORE abortions. What you erroneously call the “pro-abortion crowd” seeks to reduce the number of abortions and to reduce the NEED for abortions while keeping the procedure legal and safe.
If the right wing really cared about reducing abortions, they would back measures that are proven to reduce unwanted pregnancies — like comprehensive sex education and access to contraception. But they don’t. Can you explain that?
June 4th, 2009 at 2:25 pmIs Coulter delusional….”but I wouldn’t want to impose my moral values on others.”
June 4th, 2009 at 2:25 pmEverything that spews out of that open trap of a mouth is her narrow minded bigoted hateful moral views that she wants to impose…….just last year she told donnie deutch she want’s to “fix jews”. She is a pathetic excuse for a human being.
Hey, C4P, you as$hole, we are “Pro-Choice”, not “Pro-Abortion”.
Keep sticking to the Republic Fascist Party, idiot.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:28 pmAnd of course, C4Pee tries the Mann Coulter standby defense “she was only joking”.
A conservative friend tried to sell that line to me when I made mention of Coulter’s famous line regarding Muslim countries, “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.”
He insisted that was as a joke.
Until I sent him the link to the column where it first appeared — on September 13, 2001. I said I didn’t recall anyone being in much of a joking mood around that time, and I asked him to identify exactly where in the column Ms. Coulter shifted from deadly seriousness to “joking”.
I never got a reply from him on that one.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:29 pmBuckie Boy, you took the words right out of my mouth!
June 4th, 2009 at 2:31 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
You are either intentionally pretending to miss her snarky point, or are too stupid to see it? I think most of you are reasonably intelligent, so I’ll assume that you are intentionally pretending to miss it. She does not think the way that pro-abortion crowd does, but she is trying to demonstrate how ridiculous some of the pro-abortion arguments are by snarkily applying them to the killing of Tiller. Thus, her statement: Following the moral precepts of liberals, I believe the correct position is: If you don’t believe in shooting abortionists, then don’t shoot one.”
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“assume”?
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well if that’s as far
as your thinking takes you
we must assume that you
really don’t care about the
lives of the unborn.
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why do you pretend you do?
???
June 4th, 2009 at 2:32 pmGotta love the irrationality of right-wing pundits, but I doubt any schism will arise between O’Reilly and Coulter though that would be hilarious.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:33 pmhttp://www.newsy.com/videos/free_speech_or_sparking_violence
The above video tries to lay out both ’sides’ of the debate…gotta commend the Schaeffer opinion.
Hey, ralph. Good point. I don’t think you will change Cr4P’s mind, though. He is hopelessly “pro-coat hanger”.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:34 pmCoulter doesn’t deserve the attention she gets. Her mouth is a filthy trashcan so full of filth, and her brain so full of hatred and negatively charged, she’s compelled to spit out a thousand words in 10 seconds. What is there to learn from her? Nothing!
June 4th, 2009 at 2:34 pmIf you scream “FIRE” in a crowded theater, you get arrested.
Question: Why aren’t these pro-assasination screamers in jail?
Someone needs to look into this terroristic tactic of inciting killings as “accessory to murder”!
This has nothing to do with free speech!
June 4th, 2009 at 2:34 pmMost of what I’ve been hearing from the right is not a condemnation of a cold-blooding killing (although some have paid brief lip service to that, and certainly not a condemnation of inflammatory rhetoric inciting a cold-blooding killing.
I have heard assorted relativism — “George Tiller was worse than the 9/11 hijackers because he killed more people.”
I have heard some rather insane accusations of hypocrisy — “Why do you condemn a pro-lifer who’s just trying to prevent babies from getting killed, but you support a leftist Muslim who’s killing our soldiers?”
I have heard all kinds of denials of responsibility — “This was an isolated nutcase who acted alone. No, he wasn’t influenced by our propaganda. And furthermore, we stand by every hateful thing we ever said about George Tiller, including that anybody who stood by and did nothing about him has blood on their hands.”
I have heard a lot of made-up information about late-term abortions — “The vast majority of the women who have late-term abortions are just using that as their sole form of birth control.”
I have heard a lot of weird arguments against abortion — “Abortion is murder. Unless the woman was raped (in which case killing that fetus isn’t murder?).”
I have heard a lot of judgment about Tiller’s religious faith — “How can anybody who murders babies call himself a Christian?”
I have heard a lot of references to Roe v. Wade, and the need to overturn it. Even though Roe v. Wade only has to do with first trimester abortions, not the late-term abortions George Tiller did. Those are regulated at the state level, and Kansas law permits late-term abortions if the mother’s life is at risk or if her physical health would be harmed by continuing the pregnancy.
I have yet to hear widespread condemnation of vigilantism, or an acknowledgement of the incongruence of a pro-lifer committing murder.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:35 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
C4Pee, one more time for the hard-of-thinking:
there is NO ‘”pro-abortion crowd”.
No one favors MORE abortions. What you erroneously call the “pro-abortion crowd” seeks to reduce the number of abortions and to reduce the NEED for abortions while keeping the procedure legal and safe.
If the right wing really cared about reducing abortions, they would back measures that are proven to reduce unwanted pregnancies — like comprehensive sex education and access to contraception. But they don’t. Can you explain that?
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ralph,
there is no “pro abortion crowd”.
so he makes one up. like wmd’s in iraq.
lying to get what you want; the convenient
ethics of the conservative.
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it’s funny.
but it’s also sad.
poor, simple cfp.
:(
June 4th, 2009 at 2:36 pmAll this rhetoric from the right will only serve to further descend their party into irrelevance politically.
They’ll have lots of support with the far-right terrorist crowd, but not from any sane moderate or sane conserative.
Crazy Annie’s book sales continue to decline, even with the help of right-wing groups buying it to boost her sales numbers.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:36 pmFollowing the moral precepts of liberals, I believe the correct position is: If you don’t believe in shooting abortionists, then don’t shoot one.”
If you don’t believe in committing an illegal act, is more like it. She is promoting a fake moral equivalence, between a doctor performing a legal procedure, and a vigilante nutcase, commiting murder.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:38 pmCFP, parsing away for Coulter. What a shock. From the link in the main story:
You want to parse that one as well? Because we all know she’s just being “snarky”.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:43 pmYou have a point, C4Pee. I did not mean to imply that you typed those words. It was a paraphrase and as such i should have dispensed with the quotation marks and leaned on italics to convey my meaning.
I look forward to your explication of the difference between “joking” and “snarky”. I’m sure it will illuminate the many intricacies of your argument.
(But here’s a hint, C4Pee: in order to claim snark status, one really should have demonstrated some evidence of wit or humor. Otherwise, it just sounds like mean-spirited vitriol.)
June 4th, 2009 at 2:43 pmCoulter- the perfect definition of trailer trash.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:45 pm…
ralph,
and i thought wipey was
having a bad day but cpf?
unhinged.
:\
:p
June 4th, 2009 at 2:47 pm“In her 9/13 article, she was not being snarky. She was being angry and irrational, as was much of the country two days after we were attacked.”
C4P, speak for yourself and your fellow scaredy-cat coward conservatives. Cheney’s trying to spew the same bullshit, which amounts to ‘pleading insanity’ for the illegal war and the illegal torture that followed.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:48 pmI’m pretty sure she’s just poorly satirizing what she sees as the left’s moral relativism…though for that to work, it can’t be something you as the speaker could plausibly agree with, so that the audience gets that you mean the opposite of what you say. I’m gonna roll with the empirically-proven “Conservatives don’t get satire” rather than “Ann Coulter lusts for blood.”
June 4th, 2009 at 2:51 pmwho’s to say late-term abortionists have an “absolute right” to live?
A question regarding a physicians right to live because he is doing a medically necessary procedure recommended by other physicians? Tiller’s patients were referred to him by other physicians from all over our country (as guys like him were hard to find for obvious reasons), because of a serious medical situation.
The religious right have taken this medically necessary procedure and created domestic terrorism…. Billo’s fingerprints are all over it.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:51 pmNo, CFP, she was being incendiary, irrational, and making a false analogy. See, whether you and people like you enjoy the fact that abortion is legal or not, it is. Murder is not. If you don’t like abortion, don’t get one, but your distaste for it doesn’t make it illegal. Murder is illegal, no matter whether you enjoy murder or not.
The problem with the “she’s only joking” bit (and yes, I know you didn’t specifically say she was joking, but if you are being intellectually honest with yourself – an uncommon practice for you, I know – then you are already more than aware that stating she was being snarky or sarcastic means she wasn’t being serious, and is therefore the exact same kind of excuse as “she was only joking,” falls under the same exact heading, and gets described the same exact way, again whether you like it or not) is that, frankly, she’s not funny, because her logic is so twisted, her punchlines are completely nonsensical.
Sure, some completely deluded people (present company included, dude…you’ve proved your lack of sanity in spades on numerous occassions) may find joking about the murder of a physician in his church funny, but civilized society does not. Thus, joking or not, she’s still the trashiest piece of garbage I’ve ever laid my eyes (or ears) on. She is utterly unredeemable.
Thus I return to my original point – to follow her logic, since I disagree with her, I’m allowed to shoot her. Fantastic.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:54 pmNicely done, smidget. C4Pee’s gotta be staring at his shoetops after that one.
‘Course, that would mean he has some self-awareness and capacity for shame, and we have little evidence of that thus far.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:59 pmQuick correction ralph:
and we have absolutely no evidence of that thus far.
:)
June 4th, 2009 at 3:00 pmCorrection noted.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:02 pmAww, they didn’t like my last post. LOL
So, it’s okay to say shit, but I can’t call mAnn Coulter a stupid b!tch? Why not? She’s been working for years to thoroughly earn such a worthy title. Might as well give her what she wants.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:03 pmI didn’t say that sarcasm and humor are the same thing, I said that both are examples of not being serious, thus fall under the exact same category.
No correction. Abortion is legal. This doctor performed legal medical procedures.
Some murder it legal, too, if you want to parse words, such as murder in self-defense, or application of the death penalty, or dropping bombs on a Pakistani village. That still doesn’t justify intentionally breaking the law.
You really do think you’re actually intelligent, don’t you? Aww. That’s so sad.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:06 pmYou would know intellectual dishonesty, wouldn’t you?
June 4th, 2009 at 3:06 pmThe upside to the queen of hate is she wont have children
June 4th, 2009 at 3:07 pmYou can absolutely advocate for changing the law. You can’t murder people, though.
Geez, you’re so stupid, it’s really pathetic. I have this driving need to educate you because someone did such an apparently piss-poor job of raising you. Maybe that explains why you’d rather see a woman die as a result of pregnancy complications than allow a doctor to perform a legal procedure to save her life. Get over your “mommy hates me” thing, buddy, and grow the fcuk up.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:08 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Correction, smidget. Not all “abortion is legal.” Some abortion is legal. And even that aborition which is currently legal is not guaranteed to be legal forever. We can advocate for a change in the law, just as the pro-abortion crowd did prior to Roe v. Wade. That is our First Amendment Right, whether you support the First Amendment or not.
CFP
p.s. Sarcasm and humor are not the same thing. One who is being sarcastic is not necessarily “joking.” To say that someone is “joking” when she is actually being sarcastic about a serious matter is intellectually dishonest.
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define “intellectually dishonest”.
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i will help you.
..
pretending to care about the
lives of the unborn is
“intellectually dishonest”.
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:|
June 4th, 2009 at 3:08 pmThe answer is “yes”.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:09 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
p.s. Sarcasm and humor are not the same thing. One who is being sarcastic is not necessarily “joking.” To say that someone is “joking” when she is actually being sarcastic about a serious matter is intellectually dishonest.
Quite true about this. Sarcasm doesn’t always aim for humor, as it’s more intended to taunt its objective. However, I do question the sincerity of the speaker if either humor or sarcasm is used, especially when a serious subject such as murder and/or abortion is brought up.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:12 pmXisithrus Says:
The upside to the queen of hate is she wont have children
Yeah, because the only thing she’s “queen” of is tranny-hell.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:13 pmScott Roeder, the Right-Wing Authoritarian (RWA) follower who assassinated Dr. Tiller, is a poster-child for what happens when the psychological drivers within RWA followers reach a critical mass state: intense internalized FEAR (looks like HATE, but it’s FEAR) combines with a very high level of SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS to produce EXTREME AGGRESSION against whoever and whatever threatens the follower’s leader or ideology (in this case, ironically, “pro-life”). Roeder’s psychological disorder is defined by the following: illogical thinking, a highly compartmentalized mind, double standards, hypocrisy, blindness to himself, a profound ethnocentrism, and dogmatism.
Roeder is not a Social Dominator or a Double High (these are “leaders” as opposed to “followers”) because people with these disorders rely on easily manipulated RWA followers like Roeder to do their dirty work. In this case, the Social Dominators and Double Highs are the “pro-life” extremist political (Republican Party, Operation Rescue) and religious leaders, including members of the clergy, hate radio commentators and right-wingnut TV pundits who keep the baseless hysterical anti-choice rhetoric ramped high. Gullible suckers like Roeder take the bait. Then, the amoral, hypocritical “leaders” knock themselves out distancing themselves from the inevitable destruction they sowed.
Roeder did exactly what his leaders directed him to do. Only Roeder walked into that Lutheran church. Many fingers pulled the trigger. How else does a doctor whose activities are 100% legal become the victim of a politically-motivated assassination?
Dr. Tiller’s assassination by political and religious right-wing terrorists had NOTHING to do with saving the unborn and everything to do with the psychotic obsession of many.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:13 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 3:18 pmYou are either intentionally pretending to miss her snarky point, or are too stupid to see it? I think most of you are reasonably intelligent, so I’ll assume that you are intentionally pretending to miss it. She does not think the way that pro-abortion crowd does, but she is trying to demonstrate how ridiculous some of the pro-abortion arguments are by snarkily applying them to the killing of Tiller. Thus, her statement: Following the moral precepts of liberals, I believe the correct position is: If you don’t believe in shooting abortionists, then don’t shoot one.”
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CFP, why don’t you go on the “O’Reilly Ambush Hour” since you sound like the “clear-mind” American O’Reilly is begging for?
misscoleopteramolly Says:
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And let’s not forget another point Ann made in her column — that 49 million abortions have been performed (her statistic — not sure where she got it, or if it’s correct) since Roe v. Wade, and “only” 5 abortionists have been murdered in that time (again, her statistic).
I guess until the number of murdered abortionists reaches the number of abortions performed, it’s OK with her.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
bit doesn’t think that questioning the accuracy of Coulter’s estimates qualifies one to speculate about what is Ok with Coulter.
Besides, that’s not all Coulter said.
From Coulter’s article today at
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100053
Another worldnetdaily.com writer has a link to a recording of Tiller commenting on his work.
The article, with the link to the audio recording, is at
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100044
Since the “culture of death” doesn’t seem to get many heroes – Matthew Shepard and Abortionist Tiller being two notable heroes, bit expects that the liberals will continue to give the story of Tiller’s murder an inordinate amount of airtime.
Understand that by his own admission, 10,000 preborn, viable human beings died by Tiller’s hand.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:29 pmTiller’s assassination needs to be addressed appropriately. And his murderer brought up on terrorism charges in addition to the murder and assault charges.
http://www.thehamandlegsshow.com
June 4th, 2009 at 3:33 pm…
“Understand that by his own admission, 10,000 preborn, viable human beings died by Tiller’s hand.”
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i understand.
what did you
do to stop him?
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June 4th, 2009 at 3:44 pmAP reports: Obama has found cheap cure for cancer!!!!
Foxnation reports: Is Obama trying to shut down big pharmaceutical companies buy finding a cheap cure for cancer?
June 4th, 2009 at 3:45 pmIdjit misleads again.
Dr. Tiller was acquitted by a jury in less than 45 minutes.
So no, the late Dr. Tiller, gynecologist and practicing Christian, was not routinely performing late term abortions.
Per Kansas law, 2 doctors had to agree that the mother of the developing fetus was in serious harm.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:49 pmPlease read the second paragraph of the above link, idjit, and stop making $hit up!!!
Zimzone Says:
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I wouldn’t kill an abortionist myself, but I wouldn’t want to impose my moral values on others.
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June 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
To get the full impact of this remark you really need the concluding sentence of her article which is:
When Coulter makes these remarks, she mocking liberals, who don’t believe anyone has the right to impose their moral views on others. Has bit accurately represented the liberal viewpoint?
Sorry, you missed this, but this was subtle to the point of being brilliant.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:51 pmUnderstand that by his own admission, 10,000 preborn, viable human beings died by Tiller’s hand.
Link, please.
June 4th, 2009 at 3:51 pmI understand
What did you
do to stop him?
Voted republican. What did you do to stop him?
June 4th, 2009 at 3:56 pmhttp://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100044
Sebelius must share blame for Tiller murder
by Jack Cashill
Six apparently was none too keen on conviction. The state put only one witness on the stand, Kristin Neuhaus, a marginal doctor who had no other practice but to rubber stamp Tiller’s abortions.
Although allegedly friendly, Neuhaus proved hostile and answered the state’s questions only grudgingly. The state offered no other witness and no physical records to prove a financial affiliation.
For those who care, here is what really happened at Tiller’s clinic. Neuhaus would sign a form letter claiming the mother would “suffer severe impairment of a major bodily function” – as required by law – if a late-term abortion were not performed.
Neuhaus offered no diagnosis. Often she did not even see the patient. All patients were served up by Tiller, and all of Neuhaus’ income came from Tiller except for the limited income she has received as a laser hair technician.
For years, Tiller had used the revenue from these abortions – he boasted of having aborted 60,000-plus “fetuses over 24 weeks” – to buy off the state’s “moderate” establishment, including the sitting governor.
Link to the recorded audio is in the above link. Above link also has more info on the political payoffs to get Tiller clear of the law.
June 4th, 2009 at 4:00 pmbitblt Says:
Zimzone Says:
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I wouldn’t kill an abortionist myself, but I wouldn’t want to impose my moral values on others.
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June 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
To get the full impact of this remark you really need the concluding sentence of her article which is:
Following the moral precepts of liberals, I believe the correct position is: If you don’t believe in shooting abortionists, then don’t shoot one.
When Coulter makes these remarks, she mocking liberals, who don’t believe anyone has the right to impose their moral views on others. Has bit accurately represented the liberal viewpoint?
Sorry, you missed this, but this was subtle to the point of being brilliant.
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“need” what?
“to read…”
“to understand…?
bit needs to carefully
proof his work before
submitting it.
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this is basic to the
point of being remedial.
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i wish you luck.
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June 4th, 2009 at 4:03 pmShe’s also making a false comparison, as some have pointed out. She’s comparing the left’s approach to a legal procedure (if you don’t like it, don’t have one) to an act that is considered a crime worldwide and in every culture.
This is akin to saying “If you don’t believe in stealing, then don’t steal” and leaving it at that as a moral guideline. In short, it’s meant to belittle a perfectly reasonable moral approach to a legal activity without actually discussing the issue.
When someone has to lean on such an absurdly imbalanced comparison to make her point, it’s usually an indication that she’s got nothing else of value to offer.
June 4th, 2009 at 4:05 pmGosh, Annthrax must have really yanked her Adam’s apple over this one.
June 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pmwhy does bit think that world nut daily is a credible source around here?
Presumably one could follow the link oneself and simply link to the audio directly without soiling ones own credibility with an opinion piece from world nut daily?
June 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pmbitblt Says:
I understand
What did you
do to stop him?
Voted republican. What did you do to stop him?
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June 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pmWasn’t it O’reilly who recently was crying about the threats he was getting from “radical liberals”.
And wasn’t it Ann Coulter crying about the “dangerous liberals” who committed the egregious act of throwing a Pie in her face at Conn. State U?
But it’s ok if the guy killed was a liberal???
:|
…work with me here…
June 4th, 2009 at 4:17 pmNice to see idjit condone the murder of Dr. Tiller, gynecologist and practicing Christian.
June 4th, 2009 at 4:21 pmThat sounds about right, WAYNEBRO.
Even a little mild, compared with the bile she usually spews…I’m sorry, BOOK she usually WRITES. My bad. Freudian slip, doncha know?
June 4th, 2009 at 4:25 pmIt’s pretty obvious that she’s parodying the left mantra of personally abhoring abortion because it is so awful yet at the same time allowing for the abhorant act to continue without passing judgment.
It appears that a lot of you take her too seriously and that never ceases to ammuse me about the left.
June 4th, 2009 at 4:27 pmbitblt Says:
Sebelius must share blame for Tiller murder
by Jack Cashill
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Total bullshyt just like O’Reilly is looking for someone to blame for Dr. Tiller’s murder.
I PHUCKING BLAME O’REILLY FOR DR. TILLER’S DEATH AND NO ONE ELSE, PERIOD.
June 4th, 2009 at 4:42 pmdanski21111 Says:
It’s pretty obvious that she’s parodying the left mantra of personally abhoring abortion because it is so awful yet at the same time allowing for the abhorant act to continue without passing judgment.
It appears that a lot of you take her too seriously and that never ceases to ammuse me about the left.
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s/b “abhorring”
s/b “abhorrent”
s/b “amuse”.
amusing.
:)
June 4th, 2009 at 4:46 pmI guess a myopic right-wing perspective might make it easier to see a “parody” there. Unfortunately, it completely distorts the left’s general position on the issue, substitutes the right’s favorite straw men and, since a good parody makes use of as accurate a reflection of the truth as possible, this is rather a failure as parodies go.
Sorry ’bout that.
June 4th, 2009 at 4:50 pmYou can see what is behind the virulent and violent anti-abortionists wanting to see abortion doctors punished or even murdered. Clearly they fear that had their mother had had the option….
June 4th, 2009 at 5:00 pmWell, speaking of comedy, here I go to run my “social experiment” regarding the Glenn Beck movie presentation.
If I don’t return, assume the worst.
June 4th, 2009 at 5:03 pmBill0 should be more concerned with the blood on his own hands. He put out a hit on Dr. Tiller and is now trying to cover up his complicity.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200906040029
June 4th, 2009 at 5:03 pmWill O’Reilly Continue To Host Ann Coulter After She Refused To ‘Condemn’ The Murder Of George Tiller?
Of course. Duh. It’s just one big happy hive of hate on the reichwing!
June 4th, 2009 at 5:03 pmAs for the other nauseating b!tch, Coulter? She gets off on blood too and she positively revels in making herself hated.
June 4th, 2009 at 5:05 pmdanski21111 Says:
It’s pretty obvious that she’s parodying the left mantra of personally abhoring abortion because it is so awful yet at the same time allowing for the abhorant act to continue without passing judgment.
It appears that a lot of you take her too seriously and that never ceases to ammuse me about the left.
I get it. She’s applying pro-choice logic to an actual murder. I get that.
Our point is that she will actually go to the length of condoning actual murder in order to “make a point.” Kind of like when she said we should throw all Muslims in concentration camps. Zing! Sure got us that time too!
It’s not funny. It’s not even applicable to the larger issue. And yet, it’s still inhumanly monstrous. And you wingnuts think that’s OK. Then you whine about how we “hate” you inhuman monsters.
June 4th, 2009 at 5:10 pmNot content with their successful political assassination of Dr. Tiller, FAUX puts out more contracts.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/jill-stanek-posts-photos-addresses-t
June 4th, 2009 at 5:10 pmbitblt Says:
I understand
What did you
do to stop him?
Voted republican. What did you do to stop him?
You know the Republicans DON’T want to entirely overturn Roe v. Wade because then how would they get you to the polls? They only want to use abortion as a wedge issue to get y’all to the polls, but you are too blind to see that.
June 4th, 2009 at 5:27 pmI don’t think anyone should comment on the abortion issue, if they can’t be in that situation. Funny how AC (who probably isn’t robust enough to even have a regular period/eating disorder, or the hormones/adams apple) seems to have an issue with established law. And the number of men that can’t have an actual commitment to their wives (Newt G)let alone children they might have fathered are allowed an opinion on this matter. On the other hand, I’m kind of thinking we should just let them keep talking. Rush loves to do drugs and head off to the DR to play with the young ones…..are these the voices of conservatives????
June 4th, 2009 at 6:25 pmHere’s the bottom line on Ann Coulter:
SHE’S MUCH SMARTER THAN THE AVERAGE LIBERAL.
You folks just don’t get her. The only thing she is mocking is the convoluted and morally indefensible position the left has taken on abortion!
She is a master at using liberal’s own arguments to illustrate the absolute absurdity of the positions most liberals, progressives, etc. take.
June 4th, 2009 at 9:48 pmShe’s not “mocking” anything, Timmeh. While her style is to be sarcastic and condescending, she doesn’t actually “mock” anything.
From what I’ve seen from her she is brutally honest about her own feelings. That forces me to conclude that she is a vile person. She says vile things about people who can’t, or won’t, defend themselves. She spreads vile propaganda against anyone who dares to exist outside her narrow little window of acceptance. And I don’t need to expand on the obvious projection, irony, and hypocrisy that she displays when she makes baseless accusations that those she deems unworthy are as malevolent as she is.
June 4th, 2009 at 10:02 pmI read a few stories by women who had had late term abortions. All or most of the following were true for all the stories I read
the woman was married
the woman had either gotten pregnant intentionally, or had decided to keep the baby when she found out
had named the baby and mourned for it
had undergone exhaustive testing to discover that the fetus suffered abnormalities that would likely result in death before the age of one, and that surgical intervention would be required in order for the born baby to live that long
the respect and care that Dr. Tiller showed them gave them strength to help them deal with their tragic and traumatic situation
A person could take any of the five stories I read and isolate three to five issues that were so thick they could be topic for many dissertations. The strawman of these late-term abortions being performed on single-women who just suddenly decided that they didn’t want to be pregnant or have a child in the seventh or eighth month of preganancy, and finding a doctor willing to perform an abortion that late in a pregnancy with that as justification is absurd.
June 4th, 2009 at 10:41 pmTim Vaculik Says:
SHE’S MUCH SMARTER THAN THE AVERAGE LIBERAL.
Only really, really stupid conservatives think so. Who are they to judge?
I have yet to see any evidence of this claimed intelligence.
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Tim Vaculik Says:
You folks just don’t get her. The only thing she is mocking is the convoluted and morally indefensible position the left has taken on abortion!
I get that she’s mocking the pro-choice position.
If I was trying to make a point and using as my joking example somebody being raped, and not just in general but a specific person who was actually recently horribly raped, then I while it’s true that I may be making a statement about your position, it’s also true that I’m still being a total dick.
How do you not see this?
June 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Here’s the bottom line on Ann Coulter:
SHE’S MUCH SMARTER THAN THE AVERAGE LIBERAL.
You folks just don’t get her. The only thing she is mocking is the convoluted and morally indefensible position the left has taken on abortion!
She is a master at using liberal’s own arguments to illustrate the absolute absurdity of the positions most liberals, progressives, etc. take.
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tim vakasucadik.
i think you’ll agree ann’s
no cheryl sullenger.
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she’s a senior policy advisor.
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June 4th, 2009 at 11:31 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Here’s the bottom line on Ann Coulter:
SHE’S MUCH SMARTER THAN THE AVERAGE LIBERAL.
You folks just don’t get her. The only thing she is mocking is the convoluted and morally indefensible position the left has taken on abortion!
She is a master at using liberal’s own arguments to illustrate the absolute absurdity of the positions most liberals, progressives, etc. take.
Until you conservatives get over the myth that we liberals sacrifice the unborn on the altar of oh I don’t know feminism or liberal satanism or whatever y’all love to accuse us of, there will never be a rational discussion on how we can reduce the number of abortions. You conservatives pontificate about how you’re pro-life but you never show it by caring for the already-born. You pontificate about how you want to ban abortion by demonizing those who feel like they do not have much of a choice other than abortion, because you have reduced the abortion debate into a system of myths, just like what conservatism is. First, you create myths designed to fit your mantra of personal responsibility by suggesting that women only undergo abortions because they want to fit into a prom dress or whatever. You pooh-pooh reasons such as rape and the life and health of the mother, because they don’t fit your myth. Until you can see things other than your black-white good-evil worldview, there can be no progress.
June 5th, 2009 at 2:41 amOh and even if you were to acknowledge rape and the life of the mother, some of you conservatives would brush that off as excuse making, because your myths are too precious to be shattered by reality.
June 5th, 2009 at 2:56 amConservativePunk.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:10 amNo liberal here is half as stupid as you PUNK. We GET here obvious and inane attempt at a point. It is STUPID like YOU. There was no point since Abortion IS NOT MURDER. It wont become murder because morons like you keep saying it is. Abortion IS a moral choice. Murder is a CRIME and immoral by ANY moral standard then again simpleminded conservatives like you are too stupid to really understand what morality is just like you dont understand pretty much ANYTHING. This is why you regurgitate what you are TOLD to think because you are too stupid to think for yourself
Timmeh you ignorant retarded piece of garbage. You dont KNOW anything about who is smart. You are far too stupid to even RECOGNIZE smart. Smart is as far beyond your intellectual understanding as quantum mechanics is beyond a cockroach and cockroaches are MUCH smarter than YOU. So just STFU you worthless incredibly stupid troll
June 5th, 2009 at 4:17 amYou can use science to determine when life begins. Scientists generally agree that it begins upon conception. You cannot use science to determine morality, such as whether or not abortion is moral or immoral. This is societal. This categorization applies to termination of abortion as well as it applies to termination of extrauterine life, e.g., Dr. Tiller. Just as it is a medical fact that abortion is termination of life, so it is a medical fact that the killing of Dr. Tiller is termination of life. What needs to be pronounced is whether or not it is a moral act. Over all this looms the question: “who makes that decision?”
Purely from a scientific point of view, it would benefit the species if all unwanted pregnancies were terminated, by force if necessary. There is simply no reason for unwanted pregnancies in the 21st century, other than stupidity, laziness, inablilty to make sound decisions, or a combination of all three. These are not traits that deserve to be passed on to future generations. Therefore, aborting fetuses potentially having these traits is in the best interest of the species. For reference, the results of a populational majority with a preponderance of such unwanted traits can be seen here and here, the latter as produced by majority consensus.
June 5th, 2009 at 7:21 amLiveFree Says:
You talk nonsense.
You can use science to determine when life begins.
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No they dont. You are just regurgitating what you were told to believe with no ability whatsoever to show this is true. Like most brainwashed rightwingnuts you think if you make a baseless assertion it will magically become true. The rest of your ignorant rant is at about the same level of stupidity. Perhaps forced sterilization of morons as stupid as YOU are would be a good idea for our entire species
June 5th, 2009 at 8:05 amDamn I dropped another paragraph
You can use science to determine when life begins.
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No you cant. At least you cant determine when a new life is created. At our level of knowlege we cant begin to answer that question we dont even know what life IS. We cant even determine whether virus’s are alive for certain nor why things are alive at the cellular level but not the moleculat level.
Scientists generally agree that it begins upon conception.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No they dont. You are just regurgitating what you were told to believe with no ability whatsoever to show this is true. Like most brainwashed rightwingnuts you think if you make a baseless assertion it will magically become true. The rest of your ignorant rant is at about the same level of stupidity. Perhaps forced sterilization of morons as stupid as YOU are would be a good idea for our entire species
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Tim Vaculik Says:
Here’s the bottom line on Ann Coulter:
SHE’S MUCH SMARTER THAN THE AVERAGE LIBERAL.
You folks just don’t get her. The only thing she is mocking is the convoluted and morally indefensible position the left has taken on abortion!
I once again take on a few comments i have mentioned before to respond to this.
1. You don’t know every liberal, Tim. I’ll call this your opinion on the matter and therefore read this statement with a big red “I THINK” before the first word. If you knew every liberal and how smart they were, in all likelihood you yourself would be a liberal.
2. “Smartness” is not a general subject. Ann could be smarter than liberals in terms of presenting arguments, but is this intelligence or is this the strength of her skill? Someone could be dumber than a box of hammers, but their skill could easily make up for their lack of knowledge.
2a. And let’s also argue that intelligence is not always all-encompassing. Ann could be quite adept at law and politics, but I would wipe the floor with her IQ when it comes to science or foreign language. Heck, I bet I’d slaughter her at MENSA tests.
3. Usually, people within a group will consider their own to be better than those outside of the group. Naturally, you’d side with Ann.
4. Wow. I survived the Glenn Beck presentation.
June 5th, 2009 at 8:56 amI think we should torture domestic terrorists. snark/
June 5th, 2009 at 9:33 amCoulter is a very sick person. I think she hates herself.
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