Conservatives’ New Sotomayor Opposition Stategy Same As The Old One
Conservatives’ New Sotomayor Opposition Stategy Same As The Old One
Republicans in Congress and conservative activists spent last week attempting to paint President Obama’s Supreme Court nominee, Judge Sonia Sotomayor as a racist. Newt Gingrich, Tom Tancredo, and Rush Limbaugh all made the charge explicitly, while Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) and Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) appeared to come to the same conclusion using softer language. At different points, others attacked her temperament, her intellect, and misrepresented her record on the bench.
This week, however, prominent Republicans are attempting to distance themselves from last week’s smear tactics, with Politco reporting that they have embraced “toned down rhetoric on Sonia Sotomayor.” On the Sunday talk shows, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) urged Republicans to refrain from harshly-worded racism accusations. Sessions explained that “he would prefer fellow Republicans stop attacking Sotomayor over remarks about her background as a daughter of Puerto Rican parents.” Yesterday, Newt Gingrich wrote in Human Events that he should not have used the word “racist” to describe Sotomayor “as a person.”
But their new and supposedly more civil opposition strategy is no different than their old strategy. Republicans in Congress still appear to want the public perception of Sotomayor to be skewed by misinformation from the far right. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) told CNN’s John King on Sunday that he had “better things to do” than to denounce conservatives who called Sotomayor “racist.” And now it seems his office is encouraging the spirit of this and similar arguments. As the Hill reports today, “Senate Republicans have kept their distance from conservative attacks on Sonia Sotomayor, but behind the scenes, they have encouraged activists to keep their crosshairs trained on the Supreme Court nominee”:
Lanier Swann, an aide to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), told a private meeting of conservative activists Wednesday to keep up their pressure on Sotomayor.
“Swann told us she wanted to encourage all of us in our talking points and that we’re having traction among Republicans and unnerving Democrats,” said an attendee of Wednesday’s weekly meeting hosted by Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform. “The point was we should keep it up,” said the source. “She told us at this meeting to put our foot on the pedal.”
The Hill insists that McConnell’s office “did not encourage conservative critics to accuse Sotomayor of being a racist,” but given that a significant part of the right’s “talking points” on Sotomayor have been devoted to the charge of racism, it is hard to argue that urging conservative groups “keep it up” is anything but a tacit endorsement of the racism attacks. Indeed, the statements on which both Gingrich and Limbaugh based their charge of racism figure prominently in the right-wing Judicial Confirmation Network’s anti-Sotomayor website, AboutSoniaSotomayor.com and it is one of only two quotes of Sotomayor’s used in their anti-Sotomayor web ad.
A spokesman for Gingirch told Politico, “nothing has changed in the structure of his argument, he is just retracting the word racist.” Given that the “structure” of Gingrich’s argument is that Sotomayor would allow her race to impact her rulings on the bench, it seems that he wants to paint Sotomayor as a racist — he simply doesn’t want to be held accountable for doing so. And neither, it seems, do Republicans in Congress.
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Shorter GOP strategy on Sotomayor-bashing:
“Stop calling her a racist! Stop it some more!”
June 4th, 2009 at 11:48 amobamawipe$ Says:
Is the tp editor on crack, again?
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someone steal yours?
:)
June 4th, 2009 at 11:49 amSo, the Right Wing isn’t apologizing for the sentiment behind what their saying, just the words that they’re using.
They’re back to ‘code words’ to disguise their racism again?
June 4th, 2009 at 11:51 amHow many times will the GNOP use the word “racist” in it’s attempt to distance itself for comments calling Sotomayor a racist? It’s GNOP wordplay 2.0 and Newt knows well the “repeat it often enough it becomes true” game.
Too bad no one appears to be listening. It’s verbal masterbation.
PEACE
June 4th, 2009 at 11:53 amobamawipe$ Says:
Yesterday it was “hazerdous” today it’s “stategy.”
Sometimes, we must all channel our inner Dubya…
June 4th, 2009 at 11:53 amGingrich actually writes this in Human Events:
In fairness to the judge, many of her rulings as a court of appeals judge do not match the radicalism of her speeches and statements. She has shown more caution and moderation in her rulings than in her words.
Yes, idiot. Her record doesn’t match your rhetoric. Imagine that.
June 4th, 2009 at 11:55 amGOP = Goofs on Parade
June 4th, 2009 at 11:56 amobamawipe$ Says:
Yesterday it was “hazerdous” today it’s “stategy.”
…..and tomorrow, you’ll still be a troll.
Anyhoo; when Jeff Sessions seems like the moderate Republican, you should know that you’re a party that is appealing only to the lowest common denominator.
June 4th, 2009 at 11:58 amYesterday it was “obamawipe$” today it’s “obamawipe$”. Now there’s some “nice work” for ya! ;)
If a guy walked into a store and used a lighter to start a fire, would we trust the say guy walking in a week later carrying a box of matches? Even if he said “I shouldn’t have used the lighter”? The anti-Obama nominee crowd can’t be trusted just because they are trying to tone down the rhetoric as the rhetoric is still inflammatory.
June 4th, 2009 at 11:58 amobamawipe$ Says:
Ol’ Haggis was furious the last time Greta interviewed one of her husbans friends, he must be just as furious about this one.
Anonymous | 06.03.09 – 11:01 pm | #
He’s hittin’ the pipe and drinkin’ from the tin simulateously! And posting hate at tp……
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you seem so distressed
by it all.
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June 4th, 2009 at 11:59 am“
“… it seems that he wants to paint Sotomayor as a racist — he simply doesn’t want to be held accountable for doing so. And neither, it seems, do Republicans in Congress.”
What?! Republicans not wanting to be held accountable for their actions? Since when? oh right, ALWAYS.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:00 pmKeep it up, GNOPers…No, not with viagra, dammit, just keep shrinking your tent. It’s subatomic size now, keep it up, flabby, wrinkled old white guy party.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:01 pmIt just cracks me up, the Racist Republic Fascist Party calling someone a Racist.
obamawipe$ blows goats
June 4th, 2009 at 12:01 pmThe people who are most responsible for destroying the old Republican Party are those who listen “faithfully” to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck.
Imagine what today’s Republican Party would look like with these four horsemen of the GOP apocalypse not around to incite, antagonize and divide the miscreant conglomeration of southern faux-Baptists, racists, misogynists, homophobes and misanthropes that represent the best and brightest of today’s decadent GOP. Men who still believe the south will rise again and that people like Rush, Sean, Billo and Glenn give a darn about the quality of their lives are a cancer on American society that will eventually consume itself along with whatever healthy tissue remains in the Republican body politic.
The man or woman who could one day lead the Republican Party back into prominence in mainstream American politics probably hasn’t even been born yet.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:02 pmBuckie Boy Says:
It just cracks me up, the Racist Republic Fascist Party calling someone a Racist.
obamawipe$ blows goats
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old goats.
:)
June 4th, 2009 at 12:04 pmGreat strategy by the wingnuts. Have white haired white men offer racially tinged criticism of a fairly moderate judge who happens to be of Puerto Rican ancestry. Wonder what happens to the wingnut party when those white haired white men pass on to white man heaven and the country doesn’t look as much like them as it did in 1980 or so.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:05 pmA spokesman for Gingirch told Politico…
WTF?
Why does Gingrich need a spokesperson? His prolific wordage covers the Party of Hate’s talking points daily, ad nauseum.
Does the Neutered One still live with his Mama? How many wives, lies, affairs and secrets can this little reptile claim in the name of ‘Christian Values’?
Run, neutered one, run. America will spit you out like a bad watermelon seed in 2010. We WON in ‘06. We WON in ‘08. And we will WIN again in 2010.
Bring it on, lizard boy, your venom has lost it’s power.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:05 pmCheney Threatens to Further Isolate Republican Party
Dick Cheney’s “persistent visibility does not appear to be helping matters for the Republicans. With a net favorability of -20 (31% favorable, 51% unfavorable),
the former vice president is at his lowest level of popularity since Democracy Corps first measured it in 1999. Cheney is a deeply divisive figure, popular only with the conservative base of the Republican Party but unpopular with everyone else, including independents (among whom he has net -26 favorability rating) and moderate Republicans. In fact, President Obama (+5) is more popular with moderate Republicans than Cheney (-9).”
June 4th, 2009 at 12:05 pmjoe cantwell Says:
obamawipe$ Says:
Ol’ Haggis was furious the last time Greta interviewed one of her husbans friends, he must be just as furious about this one.
Anonymous | 06.03.09 – 11:01 pm | #
He’s hittin’ the pipe and drinkin’ from the tin simulateously! And posting hate at tp……
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you seem so distressed
by it all.
$0 is so distressed that, after criticizing Ryan’s typo, he made one of his own.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pmBuckie Boy Says: obamawipe$ blows goats
You really should not say that about obamawipe$ as a person. It is not helpful to our progressive movement. Further, it is not really an accurate description since actually obamawipe$ sucks.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pmPurple State Says:
joe cantwell Says:
obamawipe$ Says:
Ol’ Haggis was furious the last time Greta interviewed one of her husbans friends, he must be just as furious about this one.
Anonymous | 06.03.09 – 11:01 pm | #
He’s hittin’ the pipe and drinkin’ from the tin simulateously! And posting hate at tp……
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you seem so distressed
by it all.
$0 is so distressed that, after criticizing Ryan’s typo, he made one of his own.
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poor fellow.
the drugs, the loneliness.
s/b “simultaneously”
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June 4th, 2009 at 12:09 pmsadistic racist’s at that…
June 4th, 2009 at 12:09 pmya know – both the sotomayor nomination and HEALTH CARE REFORM come before and are to be finalized at about the same time: this summer/fall…
I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE.
WHY IS TP NOT DEVOTING ANY SPACE TO THAT?
surely you can find a way to inform us of the underhanded tactics baucus and his insurance buddies are using without losing your tax exempt status…
surely.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:10 pmHere’s an idea: Judge Sotomayor has been on the Second Circuit for eleven years. Instead of parsing random out-of-context sentences from speeches, let’s examine her RECORD.
I’ve been pimping the non-partisan scotusblog who has actually examined her rulings from the bench:
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/judge-sotomayor-and-race-results-from-the-full-data-set/
June 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pmSpencers Mom said ‘verbal masterbation’. Bwahahahahahaha. Don’t ever stand too close to a neocon. You don’t know where their spittle’s been.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pmosage Says:
The people who are most responsible for destroying the old Republican Party are those who listen “faithfully” to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck.
Exactly; as I’ve been saying for a while, it’s not the Democrats that should impose the “Fairness Doctrine” on these loudmouth lying clowns, but the Republicans.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:13 pmi left out a word:
… come before CONGRESS and are to be finalized…
June 4th, 2009 at 12:18 pmSo says the troll who typed in Bold and ALL CAPS at 11:33 this morning:
obamawipe$ Says:
BIG WHITE COSERVATIVES UNDER YOUR BED!
June 4th, 2009 at 12:19 pmI am perfectly happy to have them continue their smear tactics. The more they smear her the more Hispanic and women voters they alienate. The GOP could win an election without Hispanic voters but they will never win an election without women voters.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:19 pm…
wipey,
off to a bad start, eh?
;(
June 4th, 2009 at 12:21 pmThe new GNOPer Mantra
SHRINK THAT TENT! ~ !SHRINK THAT TENT!~!SHRINK THAT TENT!
June 4th, 2009 at 12:21 pmremember when obama touted her lengthy judicial record as proof of her qualification?
have you heard all the bots using that lengthy record as the excuse for all the time they will need to “study” her record…?
stall stall stall…
can’t win for losin’…
June 4th, 2009 at 12:23 pmThis is kind of appropriate, but I’m afraid the cat is out of the bag. The real problem wasn’t that the right wing has fringe elements making outrageous claims – after all, there are fringe elements making outrageous claims on the left too. The problem is that presumably responsible conservative media and even elected officials were repeating the outrageous claims invented by the fringe.
There’s an appropriate way to do this. The nutjobs – web commenters like ourselves, fringe blogs, lunatics on public access TV – can make all the crazy claims they want. As you increase in viewership – major blogs, news sites and cable channels – you should water down and verify any claims you make. At the top of the heap are the elected officials, who should respect the gravity of the office they hold.
So it’s appropriate for the elected R’s to distance themselves from the wackjob positions entirely. It’s even appropriate for guys like Gingrich (ex-elected official, currently a celebutante of some sort) to distance themselves somewhat from the lunatic fringe. But you’ve got to draw those lines clearly and adhere to them all the time. Only doing it every other week doesn’t gain you any credibility whatsoever.
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obamawipe$ Says:
Is the tp editor on crack, again?
He does seem to be getting a lot of work done this morning. Or maybe TP is now sponsored by Starbucks too…
June 4th, 2009 at 12:23 pmYo, people! DNFTT!
Ignoring trolls like “O$” has been working well. Engaging it just encourages it to post.
Ralph, I’m talking to you!
June 4th, 2009 at 12:25 pmI guess Newt wasn’t going to depend on the Latino vote should he decide to run for president in 2012.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:29 pmspring heeled jack Says:
Here’s an idea: Judge Sotomayor has been on the Second Circuit for eleven years. Instead of parsing random out-of-context sentences from speeches, let’s examine her RECORD.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
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Oh, bull pucky. What do the facts have to do with anything?
June 4th, 2009 at 12:31 pmWith this group of old white men fearful of becoming an endangered species running around spewing nonsense and instilling fear in the hearts and minds of their followers, what on earth are their respective wives saying about all this? No need to answer, I get the visual.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:32 pmIt’s too bad that when Bush chose John Roberts as a supreme court nominee that the media never touched on the fact that in most of his rulings he sided with the government and the corporations over the average citizen. This it seems would be more of a concern for we the people of both political persuasions.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:32 pm“Swann told us she wanted to encourage all of us in our talking points and that we’re having traction among Republicans
This statement defines the very nature of the Republican party. The cynical leaders openly discuss the effectiveness of their propaganda techniques in controlling their slack-jawed mindless hoard of drones.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:33 pmWatch Jon Stewart mock media for the Cheney tour…
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=228988&title=dick-uncut
June 4th, 2009 at 12:36 pmDear Lord, a swear to eschew my sinful ways and follow you, giving my possessions to the poor, and spend the rest of my life in sack-cloth and ashes on the day the carcasses of Gorver Norquist and Sean Hannity are found, in rapturous embrace, drowned in a bathtub.
Amen!
June 4th, 2009 at 12:37 pmGreat strategy by the wingnuts. Have white haired white men offer racially tinged criticism of a fairly moderate judge who happens to be of Puerto Rican ancestry.
You may not believe this but so-called “white” people are still about 60% of the population. About 60% of the white voters in the country voted against Obama. White racism (which of course does not want itself called that) is still a dominant force, especially in private…
So, what I’m saying, for their constituency, it DOESN’T HURT to slag minority, female candidates/nominees.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:44 pmNo need to be praying for death on people, tokin librul. Just let naysayers sow their own seeds for failure.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:46 pmwell, since praying does absolutely nothing outside the prayor’s head, no harm, no foul
June 4th, 2009 at 12:49 pmand yet she still causes you right wing pansies to pee your pants in fear
June 4th, 2009 at 12:50 pmWOW!! Look who’s being racist, Newter and Limpnuts and the rest of the GOP are really immature brats?
Newter and Limpnuts are a bunch of big “whiny loco bully’s” These right-wingpsychos remind me of my 5 year-old nephew who gives my sister temper-tantrums when he is told they can’t have another cookie and my sister does not cave in one bit?
June 4th, 2009 at 12:53 pmJohnintexas,
So in junior high, we started reading comprehension on a more advanced level. That means you read quotes, phrases, chapters, etc, in context with the rest of the work. We found that we were already doing that to some extent, but more importantly, when you hadn’t read the rest of the work, the setting it was in, you couldn’t understand much at all.
I don’t want to imply anything about your education or intelligence. Sometimes we forget a lot of basic things as we get older.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:59 pmgum, I’m on board the “Ignore” train, but I’m reluctant to apply it across the board. For certain abusive and ignorant trolls, absolutely.
For others, maybe those who are more silly than abusive, I’m comfortable just ridiculing them.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:00 pmjohnintexas, on the other hand, is a very FULL vessel!
So full, in fact, that there is no room for the actual FULL truth of what Judge Sotomayor actually said about her status as a Hispanic woman would have in her work.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:04 pmJohnintexas Says:
Oh, is that what she is? Just a poor, harmless little moderate PR judge . . .
Guess the part where she said that as a PR female she could render better judgement than WHITE men was all in my imagination . . .
The GOPers had to go all the way back to 2001 to find one line in one speech to find something they could misconstrue as “racist.” Desperate GOPers.
Even a columnist at the WSJ observes that this is much ado about nothing.
Boy, that sure sounds dangerous and radical. To wingnut racists.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:04 pms/b “said about the impact her status”
June 4th, 2009 at 1:06 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
gum, I’m on board the “Ignore” train, but I’m reluctant to apply it across the board. For certain abusive and ignorant trolls, absolutely.
For others, maybe those who are more silly than abusive, I’m comfortable just ridiculing them.
And apparently I’m in CommentPolice mode this morning. Thanks for not just telling me to fck off. Coffee is helping.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:08 pmJohnintexas Says:
Which obviously means you have not read the entire speech in which she made the statement about the superiority of PR women over white men. Go read it.
Please provide a link for the speech so I can read it in full as you suggest. Thank you.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:09 pmJohnintexas,
No can help that your anxieties surrounding race have left you with an obviously biased reading of her speech.
But, since you’ve done your homework so well, please list off pertinent cases where she has shown this blatant racism. We should be discussing cases, not soundbites, after all.
I look forward to your list in order to score more points. Gold stars for you!
June 4th, 2009 at 1:09 pmbecause, texastoilet, you support the policies of reactionary cowardice
YOU think America is too weak to defeat terrorists without resorting to war
YOU think the world is so dangerous that we have to constantly “bow up” to everyone and thump our chest
YOU show your fear and cowardice with your posts
got it, you pansy little right wing coward?
June 4th, 2009 at 1:09 pmlook at toiletintexas, whining about being called out for being a pansy little coward
he even fears his fear being exposed
June 4th, 2009 at 1:11 pmnow little toiletintexas is crying about his fearful cowardice being exposed
poor little baby, call him a waaambulance
June 4th, 2009 at 1:14 pmPoor widdle Johnny. Is the big bad liberal picking on you?
June 4th, 2009 at 1:15 pmtoiletintexas is one of those that have let the corporate-owned right wing mainstream media convince him that the corporate-owned right wing mainstream media is “liberally biased”
this one isn’t a big thinker
June 4th, 2009 at 1:16 pmI’ve often wondered why all those rich right-wing Republicans who own nearly all of the mainstream news media are so liberal-biased.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:17 pmYes, I am. I’m sick of these cowardly little pansies supporting policies based on fear because THEY think America is as weak as they are
June 4th, 2009 at 1:17 pmCareful Tommy, he might go upstairs and tell his mommy on you.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:19 pmJohnintexas Says:
More than 70 percent of voters say diversity is not a good enough reason to give minorities preferential treatment in competition for government or private sector jobs, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University survey of more than 3,000 voters finds.
So, whatever her views may be .. . seems like Americans have already had their fill of this woman . . . snd she isn’t even on the Bench yet.
Quinnipiac? Oh, yes, the survey that found that: “Americans approve of U.S. Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor by a 2-1 margin, according to a poll of voters. ”
What a tool!
June 4th, 2009 at 1:21 pmShe’s probably an ignorant coward too. Won’t even stand up to little johnny’s dad when he beats her
June 4th, 2009 at 1:21 pm1. obamawipe$ Says:
Is the tp editor on crack, again?
June 4th, 2009 at 11:47 am Add Karma Reco
You constantly bring up drugs. Do YOU have a problem? Sorry, no drugs here…. go to the corner and 3 doors down – you may find them.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:23 pmjohnintexas, I really would like a link to Sotomayor’s speech.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:24 pmWell I actually think the Quinnipiac survey is quite interesting in its wording, actually:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1307
I think question 11 is the one “American Thinker” (BIG ironic quotes) is the one he’s most using for his leap of logic. The wording of the question is a false framing of affirmative action.
Question 12 is more carefully worded, and as you can see from the polled results, more evenly divided.
What do you guys think?
June 4th, 2009 at 1:24 pmI was shocked by the Republicans lack of nuance last week. Yelling “racist” at the top of their lungs makes them look like shrill, uneducated alarmists. In the past they have shown an ability to push their attacks with a bit more subtlety. I suppose it’s refreshing to see their true stripes.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:25 pmlol, toiletintexas is so frightened of a strong woman on the court that he has to stretch and create racism where there is none
of course, he has proven already that he is not interested in increasing his knowledge or lessening his cowardice
June 4th, 2009 at 1:26 pmAnd this is the guy who says he will take on the US Army when Texas secedes from the Union. If all of the Texas secessionists are big pansies like little Johnny, I’m thinking we could invade Texas with a girl scout troop.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:27 pmAffirmative action is irrelevant with respect to Sonia Sotomayor since she is being nominated by the President and, in any case, her resume is impeccable.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:29 pmJohnintexas Says,
June 4th, 2009 at 1:31 pmWhy is that? Why do Liberals always think that because we oppose something, we automatically fear it
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Are you serious or are you just a another fearful right-winger?
Johnintexas,
How is anyone supposed to think you have any validity on racism when you just referred to the President as Obongo? You’re a simplistic redneck that I hope hasn’t procreated AND had anything to do with the raising of those poor poor children.
Case study is deflection of the argument?
Ug. You are null and void. You had a fair chance.
I read the speech when the controversy started. I do not think it’s racist. Feel that.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:32 pmMany times you also back things because of fear, like the invasion of Iraq, for instance. Whether you right-wing Republican cowards are fer or agin something, you motive is always fear.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:35 pmBy now all must see what manipulative, desperate and scatter brained fools the GNOP are. Once the marching order talking points become available they run to their gopper media thinking if it is said enough, no matter how outrageous, the public will believe it.
Don’t they know when to stop as their approval rating is around 12%.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:35 pmIs this, from Sotomayor’s speech, racist? I think not.
I am reminded each day that I render decisions that affect people concretely and that I owe them constant and complete vigilance in checking my assumptions, presumptions and perspectives and ensuring that to the extent that my limited abilities and capabilities permit me, that I reevaluate them and change as circumstances and cases before me requires. I can and do aspire to be greater than the sum total of my experiences but I accept my limitations. I willingly accept that we who judge must not deny the differences resulting from experience and heritage but attempt, as the Supreme Court suggests, continuously to judge when those opinions, sympathies and prejudices are appropriate.
It sounds thoughtful, self-reflective, and actually an antidote to being racist in decision making.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:36 pmRealness Says:
Question 12 is more carefully worded, and as you can see from the polled results, more evenly divided.
What do you guys think?
I think that it is very easy to skew a poll by the way it is worded. A perfect example of this is would be when the “right to lifer’s” were touting a Gallup poll that showed a majority of people said that they were “pro-life”. But then the next question asked if you thought that abortions should be legal and a much larger majority answered “yes”.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx
June 4th, 2009 at 1:37 pmRealness Says:
Johnintexas,
How is anyone supposed to think you have any validity on racism when you just referred to the President as Obongo?
And who was the recent troll who also referred to President Obama as Obongo? I guess texas is the latest incarnation of that particular troll. If I remember correctly that other troll was just as vile as this one is.
Why is TP allowing these vile trolls to hang around spewing their hateful racist $hit? What has happened to their moderators?
June 4th, 2009 at 1:39 pmthat makes sense, as there is no way to be pro-life and anti-abortion at the same time, because, being anti-abortion means you are anti-life (of the would-be mother)
June 4th, 2009 at 1:39 pmJohnintexas Says:
What this says to me is that she is a person of extreme arrogance . . . in addition to being a racist.
Here is the complete text of her speech. You read it. You decide for yourself who and what she is.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
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I’ve ead it. She’s not racist. None of the statements you cited were at all out of line.
It’s pretty obvious to me that the real racist here is you.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:39 pmAlso from the speech, the “offending” first sentence (my emphasis):
I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.
Let us not forget that wise men like Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case.
While admittedly somewhat poorly stated, it is clear that Sotomayor is suggesting that she hopes, not prejudicially assumes, that there is a better chance that a female Hispanic judge would rule correctly in a gender discrimination case or in a case involving female or minority culture issues.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:42 pmI’m still not sure why Sam Alito got away with saying the same thing.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:44 pmlooks like outhouse took off in a huff after being proven wrong YET AGAIN
June 4th, 2009 at 1:44 pmI told you he would go upstairs and tattle to mommy.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:45 pmJohnintexas Says:
What this says to me is that she is a person of extreme arrogance . . . in addition to being a racist.
You should try independent thought sometime, rather than relying on “conservative” talking points.
Eric Muller is the Dan K. Moore Distinguished Professor in Jurisprudence and Ethics at the University of North Carolina School of Law.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Shoeless,
What’s funny is that Johnintexas referenced “American Thinker” the rightwing blog, and they have an article addressing the Alito quote. The entire blog was arguing for the context of the Alito quote, while giving no attention to the context of the Sotomayor quote. Blatant hypocrisy.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:47 pmThat’s exactly why the Right wing finds her threatening, PLC.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:47 pmHere’s another recent poll on Affirmative Action:
Do you generally favor or oppose affirmative action programs for women? 63% favor
Do you generally favor or oppose affirmative action programs for racial and ethnic
minorities? 56% favor
http://www.ap-gfkpoll.com/pdf/AP-GfK_Poll_Supreme_Court_Final_Topline.pdf
June 4th, 2009 at 1:47 pmRealness,
June 4th, 2009 at 1:51 pmIf you read the questioning by Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions, he actually seems proud of Sam Alito for using his ethnic heritage as part of his decision making.
Yes, they much prefer the decision making process of their right-wing judges, where Antonin Scalia jerks his knee, then Clarence Thomas signs on the dotted line, and goes back to sleep.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:54 pmHere’s the comments by Judge Alito during his confirmation hearing:
Because when a case comes before me involving, let’s say, someone who is an immigrant — and we get an awful lot of immigration cases and naturalization cases — I can’t help but think of my own ancestors, because it wasn’t that long ago when they were in that position. And so it’s my job to apply the law. It’s not my job to change the law or to bend the law to achieve any result. But when I look at those cases, I have to say to myself, and I do say to myself, “You know, this could be your grandfather, this could be your grandmother. They were not citizens at one time, and they were people who came to this country.” When I have cases involving children, I can’t help but think of my own children and think about my children being treated in the way that children may be treated in the case that’s before me. And that goes down the line. When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account. When I have a case involving someone who’s been subjected to discrimination because of disability, I have to think of people who I’ve known and admire very greatly who’ve had disabilities, and I’ve watched them struggle to overcome the barriers that society puts up often just because it doesn’t think of what it’s doing — the barriers that it puts up to them.
The attitude and belief stated here is equivalent to what Judge Sotomayor said. This is the empathy that Obama said was important!
June 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pmWhat is unnerving is the idea, that dems and liberals would care what these scum monkeys are saying. Racism is one hell of an outlandish charge and her record on the bench speaks to her adherance to the rule of law. Please make note ladies how far these bloated, fat, lazy “men of power” will go in defaming someone.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:01 pmin over 100 supreme court justices only 4, if you count Clarence Thomas, have not been white males.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:01 pmI conclude that Sotomayor is not racist and did not make a racist comment. I also conclude that trolls are like parrots – give them a cracker and they will repeat what you say.
And, yes, the Right Wing has no use for thoughtful, introspective, and deliberative people. They need parrots and trolls as disciples.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:03 pmSee Post 101 for a perfect example of parroting by a troll.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:05 pmShoeless-
We all know what Sessions really is.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:05 pmNobody counts Clarence Thomas. They just count Antonin Scalia twice.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:06 pmright wingers are scared of a diverse court
June 4th, 2009 at 2:08 pmkeep opposing Sotomayor, you ignorant right wingers, you are helping to bury the elephant for good
June 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pmRight-wingers are scared of fuzzy kittens.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:10 pmSo our silly little friend a$$wipe$ offers an anonymous charge — with a dateline but no source noted or link, claiming vague “ties to the CIA’s harsh interrogation program”, as a means of derailing the thread, and we’re supposed to think this is meaningful?
Silly little a$$wipey.
Silly, silly little troll.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:12 pmkittens are part of the vast liberal conspiracy to turn everyone into hollywood elitists, welfare sucking muslims, daily abortion having, bible stealing, gun takers
June 4th, 2009 at 2:12 pmO$ is a yahoo
June 4th, 2009 at 2:15 pmSilly little wipey.
I think someone needs to change his drawers.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:15 pmSilly little wipey, still trying to derail the thread. Unable to mount any kind of decent argument against Judge Sotomayor, I guess.
Silly, sad little wipey.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:20 pmobamawipe$ Says:
The aide confirmed that Mudd, who was deputy director of the Office of Terrorism Analysis at the CIA during the Bush administration, had direct knowledge of the agency’s harsh interrogation program. :)
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wipey,
what’s with the poor spelling?
don’t you care?
:)
June 4th, 2009 at 2:22 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
If he were truly committed to de-railing things he’d lay down on the tracks just there… just as the 11:30 rolls in… but he don’t have the guts.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:25 pmChicken.
ralph the wonder locust Says:
Silly little a$$wipey.
Silly, silly little troll.
How about ignoring the silly little troll. It isn’t even worthy of a good game of whack-a-troll.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:26 pmBut Bilbo, he’s just silly. He’s not really bitter like racistfromtexas. I know wipey is undersized, but do we hafta throw ‘im back?
June 4th, 2009 at 2:48 pmI mean, come on. Look how hard he’s working to push that little distraction crumb back to the anthill.
June 4th, 2009 at 2:49 pmSome racist…
June 4th, 2009 at 3:11 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Unable to mount any kind of decent argument against Judge Sotomayor,
Uh, she’s doing just fine by herself! LOL!
June 4th, 2009 at 3:28 pm======
You sound just like a stupid troll
Funny you should say that…
June 4th, 2009 at 4:21 pmobamawipe$ Says:
In November, Obama’s selection of John Brennan to become CIA director was derailed after a firestorm of criticism from liberal bloggers that associated him with the Bush administration’s interrogation, detention and rendition programs.
Faced with the prospects of contentious confirmation hearings, Brennan withdrew from consideration. ;)
Good! I’ll celebrate with you on that one, but not for the same reasons I presume…
June 4th, 2009 at 5:33 pmJohnintexas Says,
I suspect that this accusation is in fact projection on your part.
I also suspect that it is a way to bolster your own morale. If you can convince yourself that the opposition is just a bunch of craven cowards then that makes you seem more powerful.
It seems that you are not immune to using downward comparison principles yourself…especially when it applies to minorities…
June 4th, 2009 at 5:37 pmWow. a$$wipey is still rolling that distraction crumb up the side of that anthill.
Almost there, wipey! You can do it!
June 4th, 2009 at 6:30 pmMY GAWD!!! I haven’t encountered a stench like the stench of goats and troll piss since driving through the part of Ft. Worth where the smells of the stockyard and oil refinery meet.
June 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pmIs it just me, or do the trolls strike anyone else as pantingly desperate to change the subject to anything besides Sotomayor’s actual record and qualifications?
June 4th, 2009 at 11:16 pmA$$wipe
You mean you STILL havent killed yourself? Obviously you dont care anything about this country and dont care what a burden your abject stupidity is on decent people. You are stupid, you are pathetic and you are a punk now just go kill yourself there is NOTHING else someone as stupid and pathetic as you can do to make the world a better place. Get to it and do the right thing
June 5th, 2009 at 4:31 amJohnnyMoron
No one in their right mind cares in the least what a stupid inbred moronic racist like you thinks.
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