Wendy Long Takes A Swing At Sotomayor…And Misses
Wendy Long Takes A Swing At Sotomayor…And Misses
Wendy Long, Chief Counsel for the right-wing Judicial Confirmation Network, sent a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee today accusing Judge Sotomayor of misrepresenting her record on the death penalty:
Dear Senators:
A first read through Judge Sonia Sotomayor’s U.S. Senate questionnaire for her Supreme Court nomination raises more questions than it answers. It is already clear that she has omitted controversial material from her past in which she asserts that “[c]apital punishment is associated with evident racism in our society” and advocates public opposition to restoring the death penalty in New York state.
The “controversial material from her past” that Long refers to is an 1981 internal memorandum, co-signed by Sotomayor, which was prepared by a Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund task force for that organization’s board. That memo does indeed include the statement that “[c]apital punishment is associated with evident racism in our society.”
Although the internal memorandum is not specifically disclosed in Sotomayor’s questionnaire, Sotomayor did disclose, and provide senators with multiple copies of a 1981 letter she drafted on behalf of the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund. That letter states that “capital punishment represents ongoing racism in our society,” a virtually identical statement to the one Long accuses Sotomayor of hiding. Sotomayor’s 1981 letter can be viewed at the Senate Judicary Committee’s website.
Sotomayor kept no secrets from the Senate about how she felt about the death penalty in 1981, and Long shouldn’t waste the Senate’s time by grasping at straws.
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Sotomayor kept no secrets from the Senate about how she felt about the death penalty in 1981, and Long shouldn’t waste the Senate’s time by grasping at straws.
The Right wing shouldn’t be grasping at straws?
The what the hell are they gonna use to build their straw men???
June 5th, 2009 at 3:57 pmWendy who?
June 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pmShe should have stuck to hamburger commericals/tony and lido
Wendy Wrong graduated from Liberty Law & Clown College?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pmkeep swinging, right wingers, you look more and more foolish every day
June 5th, 2009 at 4:04 pmFeeble intellect
June 5th, 2009 at 4:05 pmWinds up for the crushing blow
Sting of Whiffle bat
The statistics are clear on this. Unless (like some wingnuts we could name) you believe that non-white people are naturally vicious and evil, so many more non-whites are executed than whites that the only possible explanation is that capital sentence decisions are being skewed by racism.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:05 pmI don’t understand… are the repubs pro-life while simultaneously pro death penalty?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pmSo, how many right wing litmus tests is she supposed to pass before the right wingers will stop smearing her.
If we can have justices that are pro death penalty (even thought they say they are “pro life”) and justices who are anti-choice, then why can’t we have a justice who opposes the death penalty and pro choice?
The right is doing itself a lot or harm with the continued smears on Judge Sonia Sotomayor. They really don’t know when to stop digging that hole that is collapsing on top of them.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pmShellly Says:
I don’t understand… are the repubs pro-life while simultaneously pro death penalty?
They are only “pro-life” when it comes to a fetus. When it comes to someone on death row or declaring wars on nations who are not threatening us, thereby getting 4,500 of our soldiers killed….not so much.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:11 pmno, they are not pro-life, they are anti-choice
they view pregnancy as a punishment for having sex, and it pisses them off that women have the choice to terminate the punishment
June 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pmThere is a false correlation here between ‘things they don’t like’ and ‘things that are contraversial’.
It seems that ‘wasting the senate’s time’ is a key part of conservative strategy these days.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pmthe best part is:
all the political damage they are causing themselves with their innane rhetoric is for naught
SOTOMAYOR WILL BE CONFIRMED ANYWAY!!
lol
June 5th, 2009 at 4:13 pmLacking rational reasons for obstruction, the GOoPers have surrendered to the inevitable and have stopped trying to deal with reality. They’re just making crap up as they go.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pmAs of May, 2007, the Innocence Project has won the release of 201 prisoners based on DNA evidence. Of that 201, 15 were on death row.
http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/575.php
Knowing this, I can’t see how anyone can possible support the death penalty. One has to wonder how many innocent people have been put to death.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:15 pmapparently, hopping into their “way back” machine is best the cancervaties have these days. they do it to reminisce about saint ronnie and now it’s the best they can come up with for sotomayor.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:15 pm“[c]apital punishment is associated with evident racism in our society.”
Everything is about race with this lady. I wonder what happened in her life that made her so jaded.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pmno CFP, you are anti-choice, not even close to pro-life
pro-life people would not discount the life of the woman or be so cowardly as to support war and torture out of fear, such as you do
June 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pmo the irony
lol
ToiletM the racist whining about made up racism of someone else
June 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Shellly Says:
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I don’t understand… are the repubs pro-life while simultaneously pro death penalty?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
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Many of us aren’t. I am pro-life and against the death penalty.
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of course you are.
you write about it here
all the time.
:)
June 5th, 2009 at 4:18 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Shellly Says:
I don’t understand… are the repubs pro-life while simultaneously pro death penalty?
Many of us aren’t. I am pro-life and against the death penalty.
CFP, you are definitely in the minority.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:18 pmjohn m,
June 5th, 2009 at 4:18 pmperhaps reality has something to do with it?
nah, he’s just a liar
June 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pmJohnM Says:
“[c]apital punishment is associated with evident racism in our society.”
Everything is about race with this lady. I wonder what happened in her life that made her so jaded.
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but not with you.
:)
June 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pmright wingers don’t trust reality and its well known liberal bias
June 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
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ConservativeForProgress Says:
Shellly Says:
I don’t understand… are the repubs pro-life while simultaneously pro death penalty?
Many of us aren’t. I am pro-life and against the death penalty.
CFP, you are definitely in the minority.
I agree with CFP on abortion (against) and the death penalty (against).
June 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
“Many of us aren’t. I am pro-life and against the death penalty.”
now that makes perfect sense with the “tough on crime” platform repukes love to run on.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pmWendy Long is Short on comprehension skills
June 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pmIf one is against the death penalty it should be difficult to forgive the shelling/bombing of civilian residences in the hopes of killing “suspected terrorists”.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pmShellly Says:
I don’t understand… are the repubs pro-life while simultaneously pro death penalty?
To them, it’s much easier to kill a “evil”, existing person while championing to save the souls of babies whom are “snuffed out”.
It’s the moral equivalent of cleansing yourself with grape jelly and ketchup.
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Bozo The Neoclown Says:
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john m,
perhaps reality has something to do with it?
Perhaps, I don’t know if somebody this jaded and obsessed with race can be impartial on the highest court.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pmJohnM Says:
“[c]apital punishment is associated with evident racism in our society.”
Everything is about race with this lady. I wonder what happened in her life that made her so jaded.
I guess it’s just a coincidence that the vast majority of the people who have been proved innocent by the Innocence Project are minorities.
If you have lived a life experiencing racism, then of course your beliefs are going to be affected by it.
Please don’t tell me that you believe that we are a color-blind society that treats all people of different colors equally.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pmanyone truly “against abortion” would stop supporting the GOPs efforts to make more abortions necessary
right wingers are for “abortion as an issue” because they know it stirs up their gullible base that believes religion is real
June 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pmthe list of things you “don’t know” is very long
June 5th, 2009 at 4:24 pmjohn m,
“Perhaps, I don’t know if somebody this jaded and obsessed with race can be impartial on the highest court.”
a) you could have ended your statement after “i don’t know”
June 5th, 2009 at 4:24 pmb) no need to lose sleep at night buttercup, you’re not on the confirmation commitee
Bozo The Neoclown Says:
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ConservativeForProgress Says:
“Many of us aren’t. I am pro-life and against the death penalty.”
now that makes perfect sense with the “tough on crime” platform repukes love to run on.
A person can be tough on crime and be against the death penalty. I think life in prison is a pretty tough sentence.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:24 pmJohnM Says:
Perhaps, I don’t know if somebody this jaded and obsessed with race can be impartial on the highest court.
This is the last time I am going to respond to you, you moron. Judge Sotomayor’s record on the bench does not in any way show that she finds on cases according to her race or even her gender.
We proved you wrong in the last thread, so why are you continuing to say the same ridiculous rhetoric once again.
Hey folks – I promise not to respond to this moron on this thread. Let’s all do the same and he will get bored and leave.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:25 pmBozo The Neoclown Says:
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john m,
“Perhaps, I don’t know if somebody this jaded and obsessed with race can be impartial on the highest court.”
a) you could have ended your statement after “i don’t know”
b) no need to lose sleep at night buttercup, you’re not on the confirmation commitee
You are right, I am not on the confirmation committee, but that does not mean as a citizen I cannot have an opinion on a nominee.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pmJohnM Says:
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Bozo The Neoclown Says:
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john m,
perhaps reality has something to do with it?
Perhaps, I don’t know if somebody this jaded and obsessed with race can be impartial on the highest court.
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“jaded”
now,
“jaded and obsessed”.
..
you’ve changed your opinion.
:::
define “jaded”.
:)
June 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pmhilarious how these right wingers think the government doesn’t have the right to tax them but it does have the right to control a woman’s uterus
hilarious in a sad, pathetic way
June 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pmohnM Says:
Bozo The Neoclown Says:
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ConservativeForProgress Says:
“Many of us aren’t. I am pro-life and against the death penalty.”
now that makes perfect sense with the “tough on crime” platform repukes love to run on.
A person can be tough on crime and be against the death penalty. I think life in prison is a pretty tough sentence.
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so is marriage.
just ask newt and rush.
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June 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pmAre you effing kidding? “Jaded and obsessed with race”? I’m going to need some citations on that aside from Lush, Bill0, or Becky.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pmit’s a deal
time for another “Ignorant Troll Boycott”
June 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pmA person can be tough on crime and be against the death penalty. I think life in prison is a pretty tough sentence.
— and far more fiscally responsible…
June 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pmif it were not for woefully uninformed opinions, right wingers would have nothing to discuss
June 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm“jaded and obsessed”.
must be the new buzz words tub-o-lard limpballs taught his mouth breathers today.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pmShellly Says:
I don’t understand… are the repubs pro-life while simultaneously pro death penalty?
To them, it’s much easier to kill a “evil”, existing person while championing to save the souls of babies whom are “snuffed out”.
It’s the moral equivalent of cleansing yourself with grape jelly and ketchup.
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Oh, I get it… they tell women go ahead have the baby don’t kill it, we will.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pmand, despite all the squealing and whining and kicking and screaming from the few remaining sillies that haven’t left the republican party out of embarassment………
Sotomayor will be on the SC for life
hurts, don’t it, trollies?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pmjoe cantwell Says:
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JohnM Says:
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Bozo The Neoclown Says:
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john m,
perhaps reality has something to do with it?
Perhaps, I don’t know if somebody this jaded and obsessed with race can be impartial on the highest court.
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“jaded”
now,
“jaded and obsessed”.
..
you’ve changed your opinion.
:::
define “jaded”.
My opinion has not changed she can be obsessed with race and jaded from her experiences. Here is a definition of jaded since you didn’t know what the word mean.
Worn out, wearied, or lacking enthusiasm; exhausted; Cynically insensitive; made callous by experience
June 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pmen.wiktionary.org/wiki/jaded
Imagine if right wingers were not such pansy crybabies
O yeah
That would make them liberals because then they wouldn’t be so frightened by everything, including, but not limited to:
gay people
June 5th, 2009 at 4:33 pmblack people
brown people
smart people
female people
rational people
She provided a 300 page list of responces to written questions. She has provided “boxes” of supporting documents. She responded more quickly than any other SC nominee in recent history.
Is it the contention of the peanut gallery that she should be discounted because a few documents didn’t make it in to the first delivery?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pmthat’s the latest talking point handed down from rush
hence the 2 dittoheads parroting his pablum here
June 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pmJust the name “Judicial Confirmation Network” sounds to me like it should be a station between the Country and Western Channel and the SciFi Channel.
And they’re not about confirmation but rather resisting confirmaiton.
In short, even their name is misleading.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pmJohnM Says:
“My opinion has not changed she can be obsessed with race and jaded ”
“Perhaps, I don’t know if somebody this jaded and obsessed with race can be impartial on the highest court.”
it just did, clown, in the same posting and you didn’t even realize it.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pmWe’ve heard your opinion. Now we are asking what independent sources lead to your conclusion that Judge Sotomayor is “jaded and obsessed with race”.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:37 pmWendy Long = Major Joke. She is always on with Chric Matthews for some reason. Oh wiat, chris likes looking at her boobs.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:37 pmpar for the course, i.e No Child Left Behind, Healthy Forests Initiative, Clear Skies Initiative
right wingers lie by reflex, out of habit, even when they name their groups
June 5th, 2009 at 4:37 pmIn short, even their name is misleading.
Conservative Judicial Confirmation Network…
June 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pmWhat is wrong with this woman? She looks like she just got out of prison for running a meth lab.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pmBozo The Neoclown Says:
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“jaded and obsessed”.
must be the new buzz words tub-o-lard limpballs taught his mouth breathers today.
I’m sorry both words accurately describe her. I know that you must try and find someobody to blame for this, so why not use the typical red herring Limbaugh as the reason.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pmlol, the troll gets his talking points from rush, comes here to repeat them, gets called out on it, then calls rush a red herring
kids lie less than these ignorant rubes
June 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pmsorry to have to break this to you johnm but tub-o-lard limpballs race baiting is a fact and not a red herring.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Sotomyor was required to “[s]upply four (4) copies of any reports, memoranda, or policy statements you prepared or contributed to the preparation of on behalf of any bar association, committee, conference, or organization of which you were or are a member or in which you have participated.” Disclosing a view is not enough. She must supply the actual memoranda so that the Senators or their staff can read and decide for themselves.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
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Perhaps you missed the part of the story stating that “Sotomayor did disclose, and provide senators with multiple copies of a 1981 letter she drafted on behalf of the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund.”
June 5th, 2009 at 4:44 pmI’ve actually studied Judge Sotomayor quite a bit and, I haven’t seen anything to suggest she’s passionate and enthusiastic about her work. Her writings reveal a depth of experience, a profound insight, and even good humor.
Her record in cases dealing with discrimination displays nothing but even-handedness. She decided in agreement with her colleagues around 90% of the time and shows a strong propensity to follow precedent. And, her court tended to rule against claims of discrimination in about 80% of cases.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pmJohnM Says:
I’m sorry both words accurately describe her. I know that you must try and find someobody to blame for this, so why not use the typical red herring Limbaugh as the reason.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
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No, I’ll blame you, child molester. You view every statement and every story about Sotomayor through your own racist lenses, and then wonder why everything you see about her refers to race.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pmWendy Long is legal counsel to the Judicial Confirmation Network. Until March 2005, she was a litigation partner in the New York office of Kirkland & Ellis LLP. Wendy was a law clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and to Judge Ralph Winter of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in New York. She is a graduate of Northwestern University School of Law, cum laude and Order of the Coif, where she was articles editor of the Northwestern University Law Review, and of Dartmouth College. She previously served as a press secretary in the U.S. Senate, for former U.S. Senator Bill Armstrong (R-Colo.) and former U.S. Senator Gordon Humphrey (R-N.H.).
I know several dozen lawyers with MUCH BETTER eucational backgrounds than this right wing shill ; who in the hell is this dope to be trying to review Sotomayor’s history/record ?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pmLet me fix that:
I’ve actually studied Judge Sotomayor quite a bit and, I haven’t seen anything to suggest she’s not passionate and enthusiastic about her work.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pmRantingTommy Says:
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lol, the troll gets his talking points from rush, comes here to repeat them, gets called out on it, then calls rush a red herring
kids lie less than these ignorant rubes
You can check if Limbaugh said anything about being jaded. I very rarely listen to him, the only time I know what he has said is by going to this website. So instead of trying to create this about Limbaugh like all these sites do and let’s discuss why she is so jaded.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pm*educational*
June 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pmShellly Says:
I don’t understand… are the repubs pro-life while simultaneously pro death penalty?
Pro-life ends after that trip through the vagina. Then it’s every man, woman and child for him/herself. Not exactly the Christian teachings I remember from Sunday school.
PEACE
June 5th, 2009 at 4:48 pmI’m on board the “Ignore JohnM” train. He’s not odious like racistintexas, but he is just a waste of time. So I don’t care if he sticks around; I won’t flag him unless he deserves it. But I will cease trying to help him open his mind.
I’m afraid instead of a brain, JohnM has a Kitnerboy Redoubt and I’m no Bad Santa.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:49 pmMCMetal – I wonder if the fact that she clerked with Clarence Thomas has anything to do with Wendy’s attack.
I bet they’ve pored over everything by now and if this is the worst thing they can come up with then, THEY’VE GOT NOTHING.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:50 pmJohnM Says:
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RantingTommy Says:
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lol, the troll gets his talking points from rush, comes here to repeat them, gets called out on it, then calls rush a red herring
kids lie less than these ignorant rubes
You can check if Limbaugh said anything about being jaded. I very rarely listen to him, the only time I know what he has said is by going to this website. So instead of trying to create this about Limbaugh like all these sites do and let’s discuss why she is so jaded.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
“Jaded” , according to whom ?
A right wing leg humper like you ?
As if you , a supporter of an uneducated and brainless nitwit like Clarence Thomas , should be delving into someone elses personality ?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:50 pmralph,
June 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pmbeware the slippery slope…
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chiroptera toasterhead Says:
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JohnM Says:
I’m sorry both words accurately describe her. I know that you must try and find someobody to blame for this, so why not use the typical red herring Limbaugh as the reason.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
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No, I’ll blame you, child molester. You view every statement and every story about Sotomayor through your own racist lenses, and then wonder why everything you see about her refers to race.
Child molester? Why can’t you simply disagree with somebody without the attacks. Is it because you simply won’t/can’t discuss the issue because you would lose the argument? These are her statement. What have said that would lead you to believe that I am racist? Please give actual quotes like I have done with Sotomayor.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
No, it is my contention that responding “more quickly than any other SC nominee in recent history” (your words) is reckless and can lead to mistakes like the one she made with this glaring omission.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
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Well, at least we’re making progress here. First she was a rabid racist whitey-hating Latina.
Then she was an activist judge making policy from the bench.
Then she was an aggressive and abrasive jurist.
Now she’s just a reckless record-keeper.
I predict the next attack will be a scathing rebuke of her gavelling technique.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pmJohnM Says:
Child molester? Why can’t you simply disagree with somebody without the attacks. Is it because you simply won’t/can’t discuss the issue because you would lose the argument?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
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Interesting how you don’t deny the accusation. Hmmm… Something to hide, Johnny Fingersnips?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pmMCMetal Says:
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lol, the troll gets his talking points from rush, comes here to repeat them, gets called out on it, then calls rush a red herring
kids lie less than these ignorant rubes
You can check if Limbaugh said anything about being jaded. I very rarely listen to him, the only time I know what he has said is by going to this website. So instead of trying to create this about Limbaugh like all these sites do and let’s discuss why she is so jaded.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
“Jaded” , according to whom ?
A right wing leg humper like you ?
As if you , a supporter of an uneducated and brainless nitwit like Clarence Thomas , should be delving into someone elses personality ?
There used to be some reasonable intelligent progressives on this site. Where did they all go?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pmWe have been presented an assertion that Judge Sotomayor is “jaded and obsessed with race” yet still have not been provided a source for said assertion.
And, My point, CFP, is that nominees provided information under the assumption that each batch will result in requests for more info and missing documentation. Ms. Long’s implication of wrongdoing is ridiculous.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pmmary lacewing Says:
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MCMetal – I wonder if the fact that she clerked with Clarence Thomas has anything to do with Wendy’s attack.
I bet they’ve pored over everything by now and if this is the worst thing they can come up with then, THEY’VE GOT NOTHING.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
What does “clerking” for Clarence Thomas get someone ?
Personally conducted private part shaves for free ?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pm“Glaring omission”? WTF?
It’s a two-page memorandum from 1981, for chrissakes, prepared for a civil rights organization that she advised.
That’s a “glaring omission” to you?
You seem to take language way too casually for you to be taken seriously, C4Pee.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pmJohnM Says:
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There used to be some reasonable intelligent progressives on this site. Where did they all go?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Asks the GOP backing stooge who has repeated the same right-wing lie that Sotomayor is a racist , for three weeks now ……….
Good call , Corky.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pmthe troll and his racism will not part easily
it’s embedded in his character
he can’t view anything about anyone of a different race without seeing it through the distored lens of a racist
he thinks everything is about race, because that’s how it is for him
it’s typical behavior from intellectual cowards that are more interested in “winning” an argument than learning
the radio convinces him he’s right and no amount of facts will change that
best to just not engage, lest some of his stupid is contagious
June 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
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JohnM Says:
Child molester? Why can’t you simply disagree with somebody without the attacks. Is it because you simply won’t/can’t discuss the issue because you would lose the argument?
June 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
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Interesting how you don’t deny the accusation. Hmmm… Something to hide, Johnny Fingersnips?
Now I remember which one you are. You are the one obsessed with cutting the fingers off little girls. I should have known.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pmI must say it’s mildly encouraging to see JohnM change his avenue of attack, now that his charges of racism have been so thoroughly shot full of holes.
Maybe he’ll get more traction with the “jaded” charge stemming from a memorandum prepared twenty-eight years ago, but i kinda doubt it. Still, it’s good to see JohnM moving on. Maybe he can learn something.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pmhow long before it’s revealed that Alito and Roberts added documents after their first delivery?
usually every breathless talking point these stooges come up with turns out to be standard operating procedure and Alito and Roberts did the same thing
June 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pmon the msnbc blog about this ‘letter’, JC from Iowa wrote this comment:
Judicial CONfirmation Network is brought to you by the same wingnuts who created the Swiftboaters. Funny how that connection never seems to get mentioned in any story.
But now they have decided that a Supreme Court Nominee must be philosophically equivalent to the Justice they are designated to replace.
A former clerk for Clarence Thomas says so.
Pathetic.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:59 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
65. Toasterhead. She did produce a 1981 letter, but not the 1981 memorandum. She has to produce all of the material, not just select material. This is an important process and can’t be approached in such a rushed and sloppy manner.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Which 1981 memorandum? This 1981 memorandum? The one that’s freely available on the Internet?
(Oh, sorry, Republicans – I meant Ethernet. It’s freely available on the series of tubes comprising the Ethernets.)
So one could say that it HAS been produced, as it is readily available for anyone on the committee to take. All they need to do is print out four (4) copies. Problem solved.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:59 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
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I must say it’s mildly encouraging to see JohnM change his avenue of attack, now that his charges of racism have been so thoroughly shot full of holes.
Maybe he’ll get more traction with the “jaded” charge stemming from a memorandum prepared twenty-eight years ago, but i kinda doubt it. Still, it’s good to see JohnM moving on. Maybe he can learn something.
I still maintain that she is racist and anybody objective would see that as all the attempts to rationalize and justify her racism have been thouroughly debunked.
I am just trying to understand why she is so racist. Perhaps she has been the victim of racism a great deal in her life and it has made her jaded and clearly unable to be objective in the highest court. As for it being 28 years ago? Is there a reason why that should not matter? Would you only like to look at the past 28 days of her career?
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the troll and his racism will not part easily
it’s embedded in his character
Please show where I have said anything racist. Please use quotes as I have for Sotomayor.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:04 pmimagine being so racist that you look for racism where it doesn’t exist, even when it has be THOUROUGHLY debunked
you would have to be one serious bigot to be that jaded that you imagine racism because some right winger on the radio told you to
or just so hopelessly partisan that you will spin and spin
probably a little from both columns for the trolls here
June 5th, 2009 at 5:05 pmJohnM Says:
…the attempts to rationalize and justify her racism have been thoroughly debunked.
By whom? And what sources can you provide to support you contention that she’s “jaded and obsessed with race”?
June 5th, 2009 at 5:06 pmJohnM Says:
Now I remember which one you are. You are the one obsessed with cutting the fingers off little girls. I should have known.
June 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
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Funny how you’ve never denied doing that, either.
You’re a real sicko, John. You know that?
June 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pma troll so racist he views everything through a racist lens whines about being called out for his racism
why are our trolls such whiny little babies lately?
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imagine being so racist that you look for racism where it doesn’t exist, even when it has be THOUROUGHLY debunked
you would have to be one serious bigot to be that jaded that you imagine racism because some right winger on the radio told you to
or just so hopelessly partisan that you will spin and spin
probably a little from both columns for the trolls here
Too bad it hasn’t been debunked. I believe the only way you would believe anything is if this website tells you to believe it. It has said she is not racist, so then you are hardwired to agree.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pmIf you can’t see the difference between missing a document, among thousands, and lying on an official application? I can’t help you.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pmtrolls have been told that “libruls” get away with everything by yelling “racism” all the time
not true, but it’s what they believe
so now, they think they can yell “racism”, although completely false, to stop Sotomayor
their ignorance knows no bounds
June 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pmJohnM Says:
Too bad it hasn’t been debunked. I believe the only way you would believe anything is if this website tells you to believe it. It has said she is not racist, so then you are hardwired to agree.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
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Oh, it has. Time and time again. The only reason you still believe she is racist is because you’re determined not to let a shred of evidence to the contrary enter your thick little child molester skull.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:11 pmpete Says:
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JohnM Says:
…the attempts to rationalize and justify her racism have been thoroughly debunked.
By whom? And what sources can you provide to support you contention that she’s “jaded and obsessed with race”?
I have done this over and over again. Read through the older threads on this racist judge and you will see that her words are quite racist and she has said the racist comments on at least three occasions. Now this has come up showing that she ties capital punishment to racism. She clearly is obsessed with her race.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:11 pmtrolls love to attempt to accuse us of getting ALL of our news from TP
as if we don’t come to TP to discuss the news that we read about other places
as if we don’t have a history of calling out TP when we fact-check them and they make a mistake
as if the trolls have a clue
June 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pmJohnM, find me something in Sotomayor’s judicial record that shows that she is unable to be objective.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pmJohnM Says:
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Too bad it hasn’t been debunked. I believe the only way you would believe anything is if this website tells you to believe it. It has said she is not racist, so then you are hardwired to agree.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
As opposed to your “viewpoint” , which doesn’t mirror every full of shit GOP talking point ?
Who is this moronic GOP rube ?
This tool has to be a Southerner ; it’s the only place left where the the garbage GOP is relevant……..
June 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pmRantingTommy Says:
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trolls love to attempt to accuse us of getting ALL of our news from TP
as if we don’t come to TP to discuss the news that we read about other places
as if we don’t have a history of calling out TP when we fact-check them and they make a mistake
as if the trolls have a clue
I know, there are probably a few left wing or progressive sites you frequent. They have you under their control, just accept it.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pmIt’s what they do, pete. If they find themselves in awkward situations, or legal trouble, or they find their smears not sticking, their default next step is the false equivalency.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:14 pma RURAL or SUBURBAN southerner at that
People in Atlanta are a little more worldly than the areas just outside I-285
yeah, I’m down with ITP (ask an Atlantan)
June 5th, 2009 at 5:14 pmyou’re so vain
June 5th, 2009 at 5:15 pmyou probably think this post is about you
you’re so vain
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So it’s the same three “controversial” statements that Lush and FAUX have been pushing? Not good enough.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:15 pmI’m glad she’s against capital punishment. Everyone should be. Yes, I know that it is not unconstitutional, but that doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do. One cannot logically claim to oppose abortion on the grounds of being “pro-life” but still support the use of capital punishment. Yet many Republicans in Congress do call themselves “pro-life” because they oppose abortion, but they still support capital punishment. Capital punishment is wrong.
If your opposition to abortion is based on the idea that “all life is sacred”, then who are you to decide that another person should die? You would have no more right to say a prisoner should be put to death than you claim a woman has to terminate a pregnancy. “All life” means “all life”. And if you are concerned about the “innocent” people killed by abortion (they aren’t “people”, they are often just a collection of cells), then you should also be concerned about the innocent people killed by capital punishment.
If your support of capital punishment is based on how much it costs to house a prisoner, then you would spend a lot less if you sentence the person to life in prison without possibility of parole. Every prisoner sentenced to death gets automatic appeals that taxpayers pay for, and the cost to us can easily reach the millions. Odds are that they won’t live long enough in prison to spend more than that (which has to be spent anyway while their appeals go through the process.)
If your thinking is that capital punishment is more of a “punishment” than death, I would re-think that one, too. Convicts do not like the prospect of spending decades in prison, especially if they know they’re guilty. They would eventually reach a point where they would welcome death. Keeping them alive would serve as even greater punishment; executing them would end their misery. Is that what you want? Look at Timothy McVeigh’s case. He was sentenced to death and still had some appeals to go through before his sentence was carried out. But he did not want to be in prison all that time just to lose in the end anyway. So he waived all his appeals and asked President George W. Bush for clemency. After Bush stopped laughing, he said, “No” and McVeigh’s sentence was carried out.
In the end, there is no moral justification for the use of capital punishment.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pmJohnM Says:
I have done this over and over again. Read through the older threads on this racist judge and you will see that her words are quite racist and she has said the racist comments on at least three occasions.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
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Yes, you have. It’s true. You’ve read the comments having already decided to see them as racist and – lo and behold – you see them as racist.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:17 pmwhich proves that he is, himself, a racist
June 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pmIf the people who accuse Judge Sotomayor of saying racist comments were getting their information from right-wing media, then I can virtually guarantee that they were not hearing her whole statement in context. Her comments, taken in context and as a whole, were not in the least bit racist.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pmRantingTommy Says:
which proves that he is, himself, a racist
June 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
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Bingo!
June 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pmaw man! i only needed one more square!
/snark
June 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pmAt this rate, the only people voting Republican in 2012 will be those that would refer to Judge Sotomayor as “that racist b*tch sp*c, and would call our president a n**ger. To hell with them and their maladjusted party.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:34 pmJohnM Says:
I have done this over and over again. Read through the older threads on this racist judge and you will see that her words are quite racist and she has said the racist comments on at least three occasions.
Even if the statements were racist (which they were not), how do you turn three statements over, what, 20 years? More? How do you turn that into “obsessed with her race”? The 2001 speech was during a conference on Latinos in the Judiciary. How does one line from a speech in the middle of that conference qualify as “obsessed”?
You are clearly a mental case, because the one really obsessed person around here is yourself.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pmgummble,
johnM has clocked out
the night shift at troll central has entered at the Steele thread
June 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pmWhy keep up the wild, false accusations if she’s going to be confirmed anyway?
Practice for the next one, maybe it’ll work next time. I bet the opposition will be the same, too. If that nom is not a minority, the repeated opposition will add that he’s just trying to avoid a fight, even though it’s a non-fight.
Has a nominee for any high-level appointment ever withdrew citing their own racism? How about forced to withdrawl because of racism but cited ’spend more time with family’? How often are the white male noms accused of racism? Every minority nom (or candidate, thinking Obama) will be accused of it.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:48 pmRantingTommy Says:
gummble,
johnM has clocked out
the night shift at troll central has entered at the Steele thread
I noticed. Daryll is babbling and the constantly-returning crazy troll is back. TP really needs to figure out how to ban IP addresses.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pmConservativeForProgress
It is not the “view” she omitted. It is the “material.” She has to disclose all of the “material” so that the Senators or their staff can read the “material” for themselves.
Your statement is questionable but that isnt what this article is about Wendy said she misrepresented her RECORD. She didnt so Wendy was lying that is what THIS thread is about.
June 5th, 2009 at 6:16 pmThere used to be some intelligent trolls on this site instead of guys like you who ring the racist bell against a minority every 2 minutes. Where did they all go.
June 5th, 2009 at 6:17 pmJohnnyMORON
What happened in YOUR life to make you so ignorant. Everything the RIGHT is bringing up about her is about race. She isnt the only one to show the racial disparaties in the death penalty.
June 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pmJohnM Says:
Perhaps, I don’t know if somebody this jaded and obsessed with race can be impartial on the highest court.
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I dont know if someone as stupid and brainwashed as YOU is a reliable judge as to who can or cant be impartial
June 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pmJohnM Says:
My opinion has not changed she can be obsessed with race and jaded from her experiences.
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My opinion hasnt changed either you can still be stupid AND brainwashed
June 5th, 2009 at 6:22 pmJohnM Says:
I’m sorry both words accurately describe her. I know that you must try and find someobody to blame for this, so why not use the typical red herring Limbaugh as the reason.
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Stupid and brainwashed both words accuratly describe YOU. If you need to blame someone for this try your parents. Or Rush since he currently does your thinking for you
June 5th, 2009 at 6:23 pmJohnM Says:
Child molester? Why can’t you simply disagree with somebody without the attacks. Is it because you simply won’t/can’t discuss the issue because you would lose the argument? These are her statement.
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Why cant you disagree with someone like Sotomayor without attacks because you cant discuss the issue since you KNOW you would lose the argument? Instead you call her names you say she is jaded and obsessed with race. The quotes you gave from Sotomayor do not SHOW her to be jaded OR obsessed with race.
June 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pmSounds like you are speaking from a tyranny of your own mental majority; a self-induced, deranged and pitifully lonely inner prison of self hatred and despair; a…cesspool, if you will…Please do not reply, this does not mean I want to talk to you…
June 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pmJohnM Says:
I am just trying to understand why she is so racist.
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We are just trying to understand why you are so stupid and brainwashed.
Perhaps she has been the victim of racism a great deal in her life and it has made her jaded and clearly unable to be objective in the highest court.
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Perhaps YOU were dropped on your head repeatedly as a child and are clearly unable to perform higher brain function
The only function you seem able to perform is that of troll you are way too stupid to be a rational contributer to the conversation
June 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pmJohnM Says:
I know, there are probably a few left wing or progressive sites you frequent. They have you under their control, just accept it.
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I dont think you know ANYTHING John. You are very stupid. I think you find ice to be a miracle. Your projection is precious. Lefties dont go looking for others to do our thinking for us. That would be your side. Then again as bad as you ARE at the thinking thing I can empathize
June 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pmIt’s not even worth explaining it to John anymore honestly. He’s probably one of those people who thinks he’s “color blind” and that everyone has a fair shot. We all know based on what he’s posted that he’s tragically mistaken.
June 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pmLong is short on facts & honesty.
June 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pmPoor John, crying big wet tears of concern. He pleads, “I just want to know why she’s a racist.”
Why are today’s conservatives such big babies?
June 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pmWendy Long tries to make a name for herself and instead makes a fool of herself. Typical Republican ploy – backfires every time.
June 5th, 2009 at 8:00 pmA$$wipe
Havent you killed yourself yet? No one here wants to hear anything from you until your obituary
June 5th, 2009 at 8:19 pmA$$wipe=ignorant punkass troll who refused to do the right thing. Tick Tock
June 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pmA$$wipe
I just LOVE to laugh at people as stupid as you. It is particularly precious when you come in here insulting us in most every post then whine so piteously WWWAAAAHHHHHH you are so mean to me WWWWWAAAAAHHHHHHH what a pathetic PUNK you are?
June 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pmEugene, don’t you find it strange that little wipey spends so much time at a place he considers a “hate site”?
You really have to be a masochist in order to punish yourself like wipey like to do. I mean, to spend time at a “hate site” is bad enough. But to spend your time getting beaten like a rented mule at a hate site, well, that’s another level entirely of self-loathing.
June 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pmNo, stupid troll. In order to be a hate site, the staff would need to be spreading hate. That seems to be more the bailiwick of Reichwing media. Heck! Lots of those sites have been apologizing for murder and encouraging violence against just about anyone who disagrees with them.
Did you know that Operation Rescue was providing the personal information of a man they repeatedly declared to be a killer and worse? Did you know that this was despite the fact that this doctor had never been convicted of any offense? Indeed, he had been indicted and acquitted. Did you know that a sick freak acted on the information provided and killed a doctor in cold blood?
Even Bill0 and FAUX played their part. They too have directed people to sites that provide personal information to any nut that decides to kill someone they disagree with. Bill0 passed sentence on Dr. Tiller. Then he told the folks they had to stop him (Tiller) or “have blood on your (the folks) hands”. If that’s not ordering a hit on someone? I don’t know what is.
So, in light of all the Reichwing sites and networks, one would need more than anonymous comments from readers to apply the label “hate site” to TP. One would need to provide examples where TP, not those who comment, has encouraged hate or violence towards some person or group.
June 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pmGood point Ralph. Fair warning I am going to steal that beaten like a rented mule line like it was a motel towel
June 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pmI think Wendy Long is Michelle Malkin in white-face. Note the facts that discredit her being in the very documents she claims back her up. Yep, this brand of shoddy fact-checking has Malkin written all over it…
June 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pmI think it’s a cry for help from a woefully lost teenager. It’s accustomed to abuse. It probably fantasizes that it’s in control here— that it’s pushing our buttons and pulling our strings. It can’t imagine a reasonably healthy relationship. It just wants to be the one who gets to dish it out, for a change, since it’s barely tolerated at home.
It’s probably the child of alcoholic parents—parents with the emotional IQ of a 12 year old. It has so little meaningful interaction with mature adults that it doesn’t understand that most ADULTS see right through it and aren’t knocked back on their heels by embarrassingly childish taunts.
Sad really.
sniff
June 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pmwiley, that’s not an uncommon delusion for trolls to exhibit. It’s also among the more pathetic ones.
June 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pmNo s*it, ralph. I mean really.
June 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pmwiley, have you met troll jay?
That’s a favorite game of his. He likes to claim that he shows up and we all “dance” for him, but you should see him pirouette. The tutu he habitually wears is a bit disturbing, but I don’t judge.
June 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
That’s a favorite game of his. He likes to claim that he shows up and we all “dance” for him, but you should see him pirouette. The tutu he habitually wears is a bit disturbing, but I don’t judge.
The problem then is that any thread jay comes into becomes about jay and nothing else. He only touches on the topic until people start talking to/about him directly, and then he manically does back-and-forth with extremely short insulting posts until the topic is completely forgotten. This alone has driven comment counts into the 600 or even 700 range on multiple occasions.
June 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pmI’d like for us to practice ignoring Jay. Once he gets hold of a thread it becomes BORING, and LONG, as you say. Now we have an infestation of junior high kids.
June 6th, 2009 at 1:11 amThat was kinda my approach the last time I encountered him, except I didn’t completely ignore him; I just ignored his lame comments and kept track of his ever-increasing share of the entire thread.
Really had his head spinning.
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June 6th, 2009 at 4:02 amralph the wonder locust Says:
That was kinda my approach the last time I encountered him, except I didn’t completely ignore him; I just ignored his lame comments and kept track of his ever-increasing share of the entire thread.
I think the appropriate thing to do is – if they’re commenting on topic (no matter how wrong they are) then they’re available for response. If they’re not commenting on the topic, but it’s still a topical political matter, then maybe. But if they aren’t talking about politics at all, just pretend they’re not there.
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95% of prosecutors in cases resulting in the death penalty are white.
Yeah, ummmm, yeah.
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This witch, wendy long, just doesn’t want anyone to the left of john roberts to be a justice. In other words she would prefer that Pres. Obama has no appointments to the supreme court.
June 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pmShe came out with list against any potential nominees the day souter announced his retirement. She is right wing corporatist.
ralph the wonder locust Says:
ElBruce, your suggestion is a good base from which to start, but of course most of our trolls, especially the ones who specialize in thread-stretching, are skilled in pretending to post on topic but in reality they’re just wanking.
As long as they’re on-topic, I really don’t care what their motivations are. Trolls exist to help us clarify our positions, inciting us to do research and construct logical responses to their mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging “arguments.”
I know a lot more now about why I believe what I believe than before I came here, and I have many on-topic trolls to thank for it.
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June 7th, 2009 at 8:31 pm