Rove: ‘Who Cares’ Whether Muslims ‘Approve Or Like The President Of The United States’?
Rove: ‘Who Cares’ Whether Muslims ‘Approve Or Like The President Of The United States’?
Last night, Karl Rove went on Fox News and lambasted President Obama’s speech in Cairo, saying that he would give him a grade of “D minus” on the “important parts of the speech.” Host Bill O’Reilly then decided to play “devil’s advocate” and pointed out that President Bush’s approach wasn’t all that great since Muslim communities around the world “hated him.” Rove responded that it doesn’t really matter what they think:
O’REILLY: Okay? The bottom line on it is that President Bush may have been right in a lot of the things that he said and did during the war on terror in his administration. But the Muslim world would not listen to him. They wouldn’t. They didn’t like him. They hated him. He was demonized. And they didn’t like him at all.
ROVE: No, I totally disagree with you.
O’REILLY: The Muslim world –
ROVE: Totally disagree with you.
O’REILLY: — the Muslim people. They didn’t like him.
ROVE: Well, no, no. Look, I disagree with you.
O’REILLY: Well, all the polls showed in every Muslim country that President Bush’s approval rating was 20 percent. So I mean how can you disagree?
ROVE: You know what? Who cares about whether or not they approve or like the president of the United States? The question is do they respect the policies of the United States government? And you bet they did. Because we showed strength and power and influence.
Watch it:
Not only did many Muslim countries not “like” President Bush, they also didn’t respect his policies. A 2006 poll of five Muslim nations found that just 8-16 percent of those surveyed believed that “the ouster of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein made the world a safer place.”
In fact, the reason that so many Muslim communities didn’t approve of Bush was because of his policies. The United States may have had “strength and power and influence,” but under the Bush administration, it used it to “weaken and divide the Islamic world,” according to a 2007 poll of four majority Muslim nations. The abuse of this power is what led to “widespread…unfavorable attitudes” of the United States by Muslim nations throughout Bush’s two terms.
Not that Rove ever cared what they thought anyway.
Transcript:
ROVE: I’d give him sort of on the opening one sort of a B minus or maybe a B. But on the important parts of the speech, that is to say understanding the nature of the U.S. relationship with the Middle East, I would give him a D minus.
Look, what’s our relationship with Saudi Arabia? It’s not one of tension fed by colonialism. I mean, it’s just not. And his comments about extremism and terrorism, I would give him a C minus on them.
O’REILLY: Okay.
ROVE : I mean, I was glad that he said –
O’REILLY: Now let me play devil’s advocate here. I think he was talking about the religious aspect more than the nationalistic aspect. He was addressing Muslims rather than governments. Because we do as you point out have a decent relationship with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and many other Arab nations.
But I think what the president was trying to do was the art of persuasion. First of all, sympathizing with Muslims, you’ve been exploited in the past. We understand that it wasn’t right. And we made mistakes. You know, kind of a humble pie thing. Get that common ground going.
ROVE: Yeah.
O’REILLY: I mean, here’s the bottom line.
ROVE: Yeah, common ground but.
O’REILLY: Here’s the bottom line. Mr. Rove, Mr. Rove, wait, listen to me.
ROVE: Yeah.
O’REILLY: Okay? The bottom line on it is that President Bush may have been right in a lot of the things that he said and did during the war on terror in his administration. But the Muslim world would not listen to him. They wouldn’t. They didn’t like him. They hated him. He was demonized. And they didn’t like him at all.
ROVE: No, I totally disagree with you.
O’REILLY: The Muslim world –
ROVE: Totally disagree with you.
O’REILLY: — the Muslim people. They didn’t like him.
ROVE: Well, no, no. Look, I disagree with you.
O’REILLY: Well, all the polls showed in every Muslim country that President Bush’s approval rating was 20 percent. So I mean how can you disagree?
ROVE: You know what? Who cares about whether or not they approve or like the president of the United States? The question is do they respect the policies of the United States government? And you bet they did. Because we showed strength and power and influence.
I thought one commentator put it pretty good. The most powerful thing that Barack Obama has done to win the respect of the Islamic people, of the Muslim people around the world was three well-placed shots to in a negotiation with terrorists who had hijacked a U.S. boat.
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Let’s fix this… were they afraid of being invaded by the United States? You bet they did. Because under George W. Bush, we were the bullies of the world.
Now that is more accurate. Traitor Rove needs to speak more truthfully.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:29 amIs Rove really that stupid? Doesn’t he realize that if the Muslim world didn’t hate us they may not want to hurt us?
The question is do they respect the policies of the United States government? And you bet they did.
No Karl, they didn’t “respect” the policies of this government, they feared the policies of this government. You can’t govern with fear. That just makes you a bully.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:29 amShould be… “you bet they were.”
June 5th, 2009 at 11:31 amEw, it makes me feel icky to take Bildo’s side, but when you stack him up against KKKarl, I mean I’ll take banal evil over pure evil any day.
But seriously, this is basically Rove disagreeing with O’Reilly’s point several times, until O’Reilly produces some statistical backup, at which point Rove declares that it’s not even important whether it’s true or not.
This is the immature brain function that guided this nation for eight years. No wonder we’re skirting on the edges of a Depression and struggling to rebuild American credibility across the globe.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:31 amIsn’t it gratifying to see these folks tear each other to shreds?? Both Turdblossom and Bill-the-Clown make great poster kids for the Lost. As the world passes them by and relegates both (and their cluefree pals) to the dustbin of REAL history, it’s gratifying to see them squirm….
June 5th, 2009 at 11:32 amO’REILLY: — the Muslim people. They didn’t like him.
ROVE: Well, no, no. Look, I disagree with you.
O’REILLY: Well, all the polls showed in every Muslim country that President Bush’s approval rating was 20 percent. So I mean how can you disagree?
– - Geeze, how embarrassing is it for Rove to get pwned by Bill O’Reilly.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:33 amAs usual Rove and the GOP missed the whole point of Obama’s speech.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:33 amFSM save us from these insane flippin’ wingnuts!!
Please, FSM, smite them with Your Noodly Appendage(s).
Ramen.
~A
June 5th, 2009 at 11:33 amYou know what? Who cares about whether or not they approve or like the president of the United States?
You know what? Who cares whether this pasty liar approves of the president’s speech?
June 5th, 2009 at 11:33 amWho cares what Karl says or thinks…?
June 5th, 2009 at 11:35 amI believe that there is a fundamental difference between what Liberals and Conservatives mean when they talk about their love of our country. I believe Liberals love America for our freedoms and our system of government, and Conservatives love America for our economic might and how we can use that might to manipulate and intimidate other countries.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:36 amROVE: You know what? Who cares about whether or not they approve or like the president of the United States?
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THINKING PEOPLE: Who cares about what Karl Rove has to say?
This guy has gone WAY past his sell-by date. I can’t believe he’s being given any kind of soapbox to preach from. This also goes for Gingrich, Giuliani, Cheney, and the whole lot of has-been Republicans who don’t even hold office anymore.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:36 amSo?
June 5th, 2009 at 11:36 amStop it, please, please, please! My ears are going to start bleeding.
Enough RoverBoy already! He is a pathetic, shallow, ignorant, xenophobic idiot.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:36 amRove remember all those super wedgies you got in grade school? It was because your approval rating was 20%.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am‘Who Cares’ Whether Rove ‘Approves Or Likes The President Of The United States’?
There, fixed it
June 5th, 2009 at 11:36 amThe GOP: The Party of “So?”
June 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am…
republicans and conservatives
are good at making people
hate them.
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ever met a troll you liked?
:)
neither have i.
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June 5th, 2009 at 11:37 amMr. Rove, produce the missing emails.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:38 amHey, Rove you treasonous pig, why are not in jail?
He is totally delusional, psychotic, lying sack of lard.
When’s your heart attack gonna happen, big butt?
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
June 5th, 2009 at 11:39 amI’m guessing that Rove learned this ’strength and power and influence’ talking point from Jeff Gannon; after all, Gannon was a ‘one wayer’.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:40 amRove had “the math” about the last two elections. He’s talking like he thinks the GOP won and is still relevant.
Get off the stage!
June 5th, 2009 at 11:41 amIf Rove wants anybody (other than the teabaggers) to take him seriously on this subject, he needs to come up with something more substantive than merely giving a “D-minus” on President Obama’s speech. Such as — what, specifically, was wrong about what he said? And why?
But this WAS Fox News, after all. No explanations needed. Just bash Obama and throw red meat at the rabid audience.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:42 amThe question is do they respect the policies of the United States government? And you bet they did. Because we showed strength and power and influence.
What other governments and leaders have shown strength, power, and influence? Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, Caesar, Pol Pot, King George. Were their policies “respected”? Only if you, like an abusive parent, consider fearfully going along as “respect”.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:42 amWhy isn’t KKKarl Rove in prison? Why doesn’t he take BillO with him?
June 5th, 2009 at 11:44 amNo one respected Bush. We’re lucky anyone is still willing to respect the United States given that we put up with him for 8 years.
We need to jail Rove for contempt of congress. He needs that on his permanent record.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:44 amIf that was a FOX News poll that O’Reilly was quoting, then you can bet that Bush’s numbers were at least 10 points lower than that.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:45 amWho cares whether KArl Rove approves of the President or not? There that works to. Rove is irrelevant and should be treated as the pariah that he is.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:46 amJosephP Says
June 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I believe Liberals love America for our freedoms and our system of government, and Conservatives love America for our economic might and how we can use that might to manipulate and intimidate other countries.
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Which kind of makes one wonder why conservatives do so much to destroy our economic might. If they had their way completely unchecked, we’d be a third world plutocracy by now.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:46 amOFF Topic But Worth Reporting:
The Top Blogs
Huffington holding it down and ThinkProgress running in 2nd but I have some issue with some who made it into the top 10
CNN Ticker or MichelleMilkface oh please but you decide:
1 The Huffington Post
2 Think Progress
3 The Corner
4 Political Ticker – CNN
5 The Daily Dish
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/whos-who-in-the-political-blogosphere.html
June 5th, 2009 at 11:47 amYou know you’re in Bizarro World when O’Lielly and Rove are talking and BillO is the sane one in the conversation.
Rove in short: If the Muslim world stops hating us, how are we ever going to convince the American public to bomb Iran?
PEACE
June 5th, 2009 at 11:48 am…like that pudgy little fat f*#$ knows anything about real strength.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:49 amI suspect that the super wedgies continued beyond grade school, and in fact were the primary reason KKKarl dropped out of college.
Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised of Dubya gave him wedgies in the oval office.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:50 amSo Turdface doesn’t think it matters what Muslims think of America now. Yet just the other week he was shouting from the rooftops about the classified photos and that their release would instill anger in Muslims toward America. Just as he bloviated that releasing the OLC memos would foment hatred toward America. What Bush’s Brain (oxymoron) is awkwardly avoiding is that it is BECAUSE we committed torturous war crimes against uncharged Muslims that they hold unfavourable views of America.
Rove, “Who cares about whether or not they approve or like the president of the United States?” This statement could just as easily apply to the Bush Administration’s attitude toward the American public as Bush enjoyed a similar approval rating (23%)right here at home and that sure didn’t affect his pigheaded approach toward world domination. Man, the GOP sure is as dumb as a box of rocks…or should I say bituminous coal?
June 5th, 2009 at 11:51 amJosephP Says:
Conservatives love America for our economic might and how we can use that might to manipulate and intimidate other countries.
I don’t think conservatives love America “for” anything. It’s pure blind worship. If you have reasons for your love of something, then it becomes possible that those qualities may need maintenance or improvement from time to time. One of the things wingnuts routinely harp on us for is pointing out that America is often imperfect in certain regards so that we can strive to improve it. If they can’t admit its imperfections, then they can’t have any reasons for why they lub it so much.
As Al Franken has put it, conservatives love America like a child loves its mother. In their eyes it can do no wrong, and it’s beloved solely because it’s theirs. Liberals love America like an adult loves another adult. Although we can admit that our relationship might have flaws, we try to improve things specifically because of our love for our country.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:51 amHey look, Dumb and Dumber. I’ll pass on watching this version. The first one was cute with Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels and obviously fiction. This one is unfortunately real.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:52 amO’Reilly and Rove
June 5th, 2009 at 11:53 amBroadcasting from an island
Wilson! Oh, Wilson!
this is like the detroit lions giving the steelers a D- and pretending that their 0-16 record doesnt matter.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:55 amPatrioticLiberalChristianMantisReligiosa Says:
consider fearfully going along as “respect”.
I recommended your post but disagree with the last line: They fearlessly killed and kill us at every opportunity without respect.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:57 amDear Mr. Rove,
The only terrorists that America should be afraid of are right wing, racist, war mongering, hateful people like you, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, William Kristol, etc, etc…
June 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm>>>
no troll love for karl?
no troll support for karl?
no troll respect for karl?
???
June 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Rove: ‘Who Cares’ Whether Muslims ‘Approve Or Like The President Of The United States’?
Do they care if we approve or like them? They want to kill us, all of us!
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not you.
they like you.
relax.
:)
June 5th, 2009 at 12:02 pmNo, he’s not, but the audience he’s pandering to is.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pmI’m beginning to think Lakoff may have been right.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pmwipey again brings the SCARED SHITLESS to the table.
Nice, wipey, but I wish you could figure out a way to bring the SCARED SHITLESS without actually, y’know… soiling your britches. Think you could manage that?
We’d all appreciate it. Especially the folks who have to clean up your barstool.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pmRove: The question is do they respect the policies of the United States government? And you bet they did. Because we showed strength and power and influence.
Some of the definitions of ‘respect’:
-to hold in esteem or honor
I would say that thanks to Bush/Cheney/Rove etc. that the Muslim people don’t have THAT kind of respect for us.
-to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with
June 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pmMaybe that kind of respect Rove? As in, staying out of the bully’s way?
Re: “Because we showed strength and power and influence.”
How’d Bush do that? By ignoring Afghanistan and getting bogged down in Iraq for 3 years before he finally started paying off the inhabitants and sending the proper amount of troops? Please . . . the transcript aptly illustrates that Rove just makes it up as he goes along (first it’s Bush was popular then it’s who cares). Whatever.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:08 pmDo you throw shoes at someone you respect?
June 5th, 2009 at 12:08 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Do they care if we approve or like them? They want to kill us, all of us!
June 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
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Really? All of us?
Cause I have lots of Muslim friends in lots of countries and none of them have killed me. Not even once. In fact, they haven’t even tried.
Are you sure you’re not confusing Muslims with bears?
June 5th, 2009 at 12:10 pmAnd it cost us our souls, our economy and our relationships with other countries. Big surprise.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pmGOP terrorism worked on this little terrified pansy
June 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pm.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pmAnother example of Republican conservative ignorance, prejudice, stupidity & ill-manners. They are no longer the elephant in the room. They’re the fart in the elevator.
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Karl Rove went on Fox News and lambasted President Obama’s speech in Cairo, saying that he would give him a grade of “D minus” on the “important parts of the speech.”
That’s a good indicator you gave a great speech. I can’t believe Rove actually said this with a straight face. Not even Oreilly is that stupid. If your president goes to a Muslim country and has journalists throwing shoes at him, what does that tell you?
June 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pmO’REILLY: Okay? The bottom line on it is that President Bush may have been right in a lot of the things that he said and did during the war on terror in his administration. But the Muslim world would not listen to him. They wouldn’t. They didn’t like him. They hated him. He was demonized. And they didn’t like him at all.
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Hmm, yeah Bill. They didn’t like him. That’s what happens when you announce that you’re going on a Crusade in the Middle East and invade a country for no reason at all and kill over a million people and displace four million more.
That tends to cause a people to not like you so much.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Do they care if we approve or like them? They want to kill us, all of us!
Some Muslims want to kill us by the vast majority don’t. Just like some warmongers in this country want to bomb Iran and N. Korea but a majority don’t.
If we stop invading other countries for no good reason and stop torturing people, perhaps they will no longer have a good reason to hurt us. They no longer have to worry about bankrupting this country because George Bush did it for them. If there ever was a friend to the terrorists, it is George Bush. He was the perfect recruiting tool for them.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pmfox’s mission is to make their audience angry.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:27 pmThey seem to have that one down.
Rove fired the lawyers so he coiuld stupidly interpret the constitution and look what happened! a misguided choosy war that ended up costing American lives. That adminstration single handedly nearly destroyed America.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:29 pmpo Says:
How’d Bush do that? By ignoring Afghanistan and getting bogged down in Iraq for 3 years before he finally started paying off the inhabitants and sending the proper amount of troops?
Apparently the paying off the Sunnis to stop killing us was recommended to Bush three years before he actually did it. It makes me very sad to think of all the young men and women who died because Bush had to keep the “war” going in Iraq in order to insure his re-election.
There’s a special place in Hell waiting for George Bush.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:29 pmAs for Fox news, there is alot of unemployment and they know they have to be devious enough to get the hardcore rightwingers to watch,so they have to do everything so as to keep those ratings up. Shephered S. (7.00pm slot) does not sound as bad as the others. The irony is, even if they know the thruth to be otherwise, they won’t say it because their audience want to hear sadistic stuff-no difference with terrorists! Finally, the audience is majorly older, with a changing world they would not bother to adopt and incomes uncomparable with Glen Beck’s $18,000,000. For that, i would lie too in this bad economic times, but then again they use their own and that is why they may enjoy the ratings right now but sink the party as collateral damage.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:36 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Do they care if we approve or like them? They want to kill us, all of us!
Yes, all Muslims want to kill all of us, we’re very scared. Now take your medication and go lie down.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:37 pmWho cares whether Muslims like us?
Let’s ask them down in Little Rock.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pmRove the last time you said his speech was bad, The great philly speech” he came out shining and so you could have not been that good a critique compared to the vast majority of American citizens.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Rove: ‘Who Cares’ Whether Muslims ‘Approve Or Like The President Of The United States’?
Do they care if we approve or like them? They want to kill us, all of us!
And so we must kill all of them. And since we want to kill all of Iranians, they should kill all of us. And anyone else who sees that someone clearly wants to kill them, well then they need to get going and do some killing first so that they won’t be getting killed. Kill, kill, kill…..
Or so goes your line of thinking. Non?
You know…. you sound like you are consumed entirely by:
1) irrational hatered to the point of being homicidal
2) irrational xenophobic fear, to the point of being homicidal
However, while you are responsible for yourself, you are not to blame for being so weak minded as to have been convinced of these things by those who impressed them upon you so as to make you thier tool.
How does it feel to be a weak-minded hate-filled fearful tool? Really. Inquiring minds want to know.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pmElBruce Says:
Yes, all Muslims want to kill all of us, we’re very scared. Now take your medication and go lie down.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
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Are you kidding? That’s just what the Muslims WANT us to do! They’ll wait till we’re asleep, then raid our campsite and steal all our honey!! And then they’ll-
Oh, wait – that’s bears again. Sorry. My bad…
June 5th, 2009 at 12:42 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
Despite the lunatic-left rhetoric to the contrary, we have the right to arm bears….
June 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pmAnd if we don’t care what they think of us, why were we trying to bring them democracy, entirely at our expense (in lives and money)? And what was that “hearts and minds” stuff all about then? Does that statement really line up with Rove’s rhetoric during the Bush years?
Methinks not…
June 5th, 2009 at 12:46 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
obamawipe$ Says:
Do they care if we approve or like them? They want to kill us, all of us!
June 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
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Are you sure you’re not confusing Muslims with bears?
June 5th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Hey, bears aren’t bad (Colbert’s opinion notwithstanding.)
A$$wipe$, are you sure you’re not confusing Muslims with Dick Cheney?
June 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pmClean your glasses and ears. Listen to Olberman. He’s intelligent. He knows how to make a real point, not just spout bs like the right.
Show respect to those better than you.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:50 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Apparently you haven’t seen olbermann spewing hate and spitting all over the camera, lately. LOL!
June 5th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Oh, I have. I found this recent Olbermann video particularly disturbing. I mean, he was just on the warpath that night!
June 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Hey, don’t be afraid. Olbermann is not going to come and get you. I know he scares you, using big words and saying bad things about those people who made you think so violently, but it will be o.k..
Or, to quote your Cheney master: So?
Or to quote your Rove master: Who cares?
Or to quote your Bush master: Duuuuhhhhyuh, which way did he go?
June 5th, 2009 at 12:52 pmThe question is do they respect the policies of the United States government? And you bet they did.
Yeah, they respect our policies so much that they felt it was necessary to crash planes into our buildings and kill a whole bunch of people.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:52 pmwipey… still scared?
You ever hear the story of the Muslim with a hook instead of a hand?
well, you get yourself another batch of s’mores and sit by the campfire and I’ll tell you all about it.
Where’s that flashlight?
June 5th, 2009 at 12:52 pmHmmm,
What we have here, folks, is a Stalker & a Gawker.
One enjoys making people uncomfortable, while the other ‘likes to watch’.
KKKarl, have you responded to that subpoena yet? How does refusing to appear before Congress make you a real American?
How are you doing with the Don Seigelman case? How about the US Attorney scandal?
Yeah, yours or O’Lielly’s opinions are important…to you two.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:53 pmJane E. Schneider Says:
A$$wipe$, are you sure you’re not confusing Muslims with Dick Cheney?
June 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
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Are you kidding? Cheney’s not nearly agile enough to be a Muslim. Just watch how fast this Muslim climbs a tree – I’d like to see ol’ Darth Cheney do that!
June 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pmI think even the repubs have to agree that getting some respect for American policies…and some buy-in makes any type of plan to identify, prosecute extremists is a good thing. INVADING IRAQ was our first mistake, obviously that plan was doomed from the beginning and we see that over 6 years later.
W-ya should have cared whether or not Muslims at least respected/understood his policy…Unfortunately he had no plan in general, which was the problem in the first place. AND you have to have a policy that is WORTHY of respect/approval in order for it to work.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pmWow, toasterhead, a Muslim in a bear costume – doubly threatening! ;)
Zimzone, didn’t Rove go before Congress a few weeks ago? Whatever happened with that, I haven’t heard anything? Or am I just dreaming that he did?
June 5th, 2009 at 12:57 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
Are you kidding? Cheney’s not nearly agile enough to be a Muslim. Just watch how fast this Muslim climbs a tree – I’d like to see ol’ Darth Cheney do that!
I can’t view it, but I have a sneaky suspicion that…. no, an unfounded CERTAINTY (based on logic and deduction), that you are confusing people with bears again.
Bear in mind, that it can be difficult to bear the thought of humans being so overbearing, and sometimes unbearably ignorant. But, and it is worth repeating… OMG!!!! THAT BEAR HAS A MACHINE GUN!!!!! AAAAAHAHHHHHHHHHRRRGGGGGG….. RUUUUUNNNN…….
June 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pmJane E. Schneider Says: I believe you’re right, Jane. (Pun intended).
No, I haven’t heard a word, either.
Does this mean they can’t speak ‘due to an ongoing investigation?
Hmmmm…
June 5th, 2009 at 1:00 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Dude, post some of your own words with that, please. What’s your point?
June 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pmo Cares’ Whether Muslims ‘Approve Or Like The President Of The United States’?
Who cares?
Those of US seeking peace and the good of our country.
Who doesn’t care -
the greedy criminal b@stards illegally profiting off war, GNOP hoping to re build their failing party, pro corporate anti America group and those perhaps enjoying torture.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pmthose links don’t mean a thing and just make you look dumb. Oh yeah, you already accomplished that.
freerepublic……ha ha ha.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pmRove, Billo, FAUX, nuff said…there is nothing here.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pmObamadirtytoilettissue is a dumb troll. Not a troll, a dumb assed troll.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:05 pmobamawipe$ Says:
muslims planning attacks world wide.
Oh, no!!! Must be true!!!! The whole world will go up in flames soon, and all that will be left will be true muslims.
Well, at least it will end all that “reality tv” crap.
I will take to heart this troll’s doomsday knell, and I will go make peace with some bears, in the name of St. Toasterhead (well, with the end of the world so close, why not toss out a few sainthoods? Couldn’t hurt).
I snicker as I depart for the nearest cave of bears…..
June 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pmIf Karl Rove had any cojones he would break away from the FOX mommy and make these claims in venues that don’t cater propaganda for the right-wing.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pmYou need some medical attention right away little fella. Are you seeing dragons or hearing voices in your head?
June 5th, 2009 at 1:09 pmwipey, lemme tell ya the story of the Haunted Mansion on Ghost Lake.
Might want to zip up yer sleeping bag first.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pmFu[k it !! They’re gonna do it live !!
June 5th, 2009 at 1:17 pmobamawipe$ Says:
muslims planning attacks world wide. Continue to live in denial, though.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
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So? What’s your point?
At this very moment, there are also some Christians planning bank robberies and some Jews planning burglaries and some Hindus planning armed robberies and some Buddhists planning aggravated assaults. It is an unfortunate fact of life that people sometimes commit crimes, in spite of what their religions tell them about not committing crimes.
When groups of people are planning to commit a crime, law enforcement should do everything they can under the law to stop these groups and bring the individual perpetrators to justice.
What we should NOT do, however, is stereotype the entire religion of said group as co-conspirators.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pmobamawipe$ Says:
1 – 10 of about 6,860,000 for muslims planning attack – 0.30 sec.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Ah, so you’re using Yahoo Logic to prove a point. Ok:
1 – 10 of 19,300,000 for christians planning attack
19.3 million hits versus 6.8 million. I guess Christians are three times as violent as Muslims, then.
Now I’m really scared.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pmObamawouldwipethefloorwiththetroll you’re going to get a severe rash if you don’t change those piss-soaked pants of yours. I mean really man, you have always teetered on the edge but I think the Secret Service tracking down your friend in Utah has you more asceered than usual.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pmYou mean like the way you supported your idiocy that 1 in 10 muslims are planning to attack us. Like that?
June 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pmOops, I accidentally ‘recommended’ one of A$$wipe$’ comments -sorry, everyone!
June 5th, 2009 at 1:30 pmHmm – Karl’s response sounds remarkably like that of Osama bin Laden. They both support policies that depend on fear; understanding and dialogue are the enemy for them both.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:32 pmHey everybody – how goes?
Who’s the new “special needs” poster? -Looks like a fun one…
June 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pmChristain terrorist kills American!!!!!! On American soil.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Pakistan police arrest militant suspected of planning attack on Christians
Angry Mob of Muslims Attack CHRISTIANS in a Village Near Luxor 01-2006
Suicide bomber was planning attack at kids’ Hanukkah party
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Deranged man (republican) shoots and kills 4 people at his wives church.
Man (republican) who was shot and killed by his abused wife had a basement full of material to build a bomb to kill his fellow Americans.
Lunatic (republican) shoots and kills while in the entry way of his Church. The killing was done in the name of God.
Aryan brotherhood types (republicans) were arrested in Denver, Colorado in a plot to assassinate Presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Scores of abortion clinics are bombed across the country by religious zealots on the right.
Wow, which “terrorists” are more dangerous, the ones from the Middle East or the ones in the American Taliban??????
June 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pmobamawipe$ Says:
At this very moment, there are also some Christians planning bank robberies and some Jews planning burglaries and some Hindus planning armed robberies and some Buddhists planning aggravated assaults.
Anything to support that idiocy?
June 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Sure!
There were almost 6,000 bank robberies committed in the U.S. in 2007. Since the majority of Americans are Christian, it stands to reason that a sizeable percentage of those bank robbers were Christian. If the statistics for 2009 follow that trend, one can safely assume that there are some Christians planning a bank robbery in the future.
Next, the Israel 2008 Crime & Safety Report states that burglaries and home break-ins are common in Tel Aviv and in Israel generally, and that the State Department currently lists Israel’s crime rate as medium. Since Israel has a majority Jewish population, it logically follows that most of these crimes are committed by Jews, and thus there are likely to be some Jews right now planning a break-in.
I could do the same for India and Thailand if you like…
June 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pmCorrection:
Lunatic (republican) shoots and kills Dr. Tiller while he stood in the foyer of his Church. The killing was done in the name of God.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:38 pmChristian terrorists are no better than Muslim terrorists. What part of that is so hard for wingnuts and trolls to understand?
June 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pmTelling the press that God told him to attack Iraq, former President George W. Bush invades the sovereign nation of Iraq, which leads to the deaths of 4000+ US soldiers, 20,000+ wounded or maimed US soldiers and kills over 150,000 innocent Iraqi men, women and children.
George W. Bush, the leader of the biggest terrorist organization on the planet.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:40 pmIt was Rove and his attitude that encouraged the swaggering boy-king with dick Torquemada at his side that brought the country to our nadir in foreign relations, to our detriment that will take years and years of unrelenting work to repair.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pmWhen the turd blossom says who cares – he takes a page from the dick, who says “so?”
June 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pmIt only shows the inherent evil in the man and his ignorance, self-interest and shallowness.
Dang. wipey’s landlord must be about to evict ‘im if he’s trying this hard to sell us four-year-old scary muslims crap.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pm100% of Christian terrorists are people who watch FAUX Noise.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pmAnyone else besides me really glad these two morons aren’t in charge of national security?
June 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pmPresident Barack Obama extends an Olive branch to the Muslim world as he tries to show them a more positive, less threatening view of our country.
The US military under George W. Bush hand out religious pamphlets and pictures around Iraq depicting Muhammad as the devil.
So tell me again, what actions under which president are making our country less safe while creating more hatred towards our country and created more enemies??
June 5th, 2009 at 1:47 pmSo Rove really thinks that strength (Super Power) Power (Bigger military) and Influence (Bribes/Corruption/Greed) are why the Muslim world respected Bush and his policies?
So in Rove land we are all to believe that if you invade another country because you have the military strength to do so, kill over one hundred thousand of said country’s citizens, rape and torture those who defend the country, this country and other countries will respect you.
Memo to Fat Karl: Hey fatboy, lay off of the cocaine and stop smoking the weed, they are eating away at your brain and killing your brain cells at rapid fire speed.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pmoh my, karl… your idiot is showing again.
June 5th, 2009 at 1:57 pmkasinca Says:
100% of Christian terrorists are people who watch FAUX Noise.
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100% of those who watch the FOX entertainment channel have a combined IQ of 34. Have no critical thinking skills and believe the Easter bunny is real because Sean Hannity told them so.
I’m not sure if was Rove or some other right-wing whack-job, that only a few weeks ago was bashing Obama because he gave the go-ahead to troops to take out the three Muslim teenagers because they had taken one hostage – but now, of course, why would we care what Muslims think og us – hypocrites one and all.
June 5th, 2009 at 2:10 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Apparently you haven’t seen olbermann spewing hate and spitting all over the camera, lately. LOL!
No, I haven’t. I’ve been watching his show, and he seems to have been in a pretty good mood since about last November. I wonder why that is.
Also, please stop saying “LOL!” It makes you sound eleven. And quit spamming. You want to collect citations and present them to us, do it all at once. Hint: you can open more than one browser window at a time.
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obamawipe$ Says:
I know that. He would never face anyone with opposing views. Hence, he’s a coward.
At least he isn’t scared of all the Muslims in the world, like some people we could mention…
You wingnuts are in no position right now to talk about who is or isn’t a coward of any kind.
June 5th, 2009 at 2:11 pmRove & Co. missed the segment of White House orientation where the vital importance of diplomacy was discussed. For Rove & Co., the entire world is a big playground for boys where American neo-KKKonservatives can take an enormous dump wherever they please with no repercussions.
June 5th, 2009 at 2:52 pm“Who Cares” Whether Muslims ‘Approve Or Like The President Of The USA”…
Rove is talking like a bully.
He needs to start wearing his white cone-shaped hood when he comes to O’Reilly show. !!
May be he’ll bring one for O’Reilly to wear too.
June 5th, 2009 at 3:28 pmROVE: You know what? Who cares about whether or not they approve or like the president of the United States? The question is do they respect the policies of the United States government? And you bet they did.
What? Rove must be the most deluded, lying, dishonest liar around. Doesn’t he know God is anti-lying?
June 5th, 2009 at 3:29 pmI remember when Cheney, Dick gave an answer similar to this when informed that majority of americans are against the war. To which Dick said “So”.
June 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pmWho cares about whether or not they approve or like the president of the United States?
I do, Karl. I care very much. It’s critical to both our national security and global economic interests that we stop pissing off everybody in the world for no good reason.
June 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pmI care what Muslims think. Pretty silly to think that we are really in the death-grip of mortal enmity with the Muslim world. For the life of me, I don’t understand why some people fall for bipolar comic book worldviews. Makes me wonder if they actually know many people.
June 5th, 2009 at 3:55 pmRove, your supposed to take Lindseys lead and tell people your scared and you overreacted…
June 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pmNobody respects a bully. You have mistaken fear and loathing for respect, Karl.
And the Bush administration botched even their attempt at using military power to their advantage. Pathetic.
June 5th, 2009 at 5:34 pmLet’s see, why should we care of the Muslims like Obama? Hmmm! Perhaps because it makes it a little easier to help the peace process. Perhaps because it is better to have our President respected by other people and country’s. Perhaps because respect is better then hate. Perhaps because we live in a world bigger then our own part of it. And we must deal with friends and adversaries alike. And because it is in our own self interest to do this with respect between party’s and nations. We will always have enemies. But why make enemies with everyone?
And mostly, because Bush and his policies are so hated, and Obama is not Bush. Rove of course would like to bomb everyone out of existence that do not agree with us. But when you think of how many country’s do not agree with us, who would we have left to deal with? Just a handful. That is Rove’s idea of consensus.
June 5th, 2009 at 6:28 pm“The question is do they respect the policies of the United States government? And you bet they did. Because we showed strength and power and influence.”
Isn’t it funny (and deadly) how these intimidating bullies think they’re respected? Typical rich thug.
June 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pmA$$wipe
Why havent you killed yourself yet? Your stupidity is a stench in the nostrils of all decent Americans. Time is short, do the right thing. Tick Tock
June 5th, 2009 at 6:52 pmLou Dobbs announced on his show that Obama is facing charges…
Lou Dobbs, is a master misinform-er!
i think this is false advertising.
June 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pmPresident Obama gives a foreign policy speech which is articulate and redresses problems in the Middle East from a fresh perspective. The speech is well received around the world and in this country. That is except for the brilliant Carl Rove and his Republican Party.
June 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pmObama’s speech was refreshing change from the 8 years of the Cheney/Bush fiasco.
The idea that hope and solutions are possible is inspiring. This political hack Rove pontifics on Obama’s shortfall is laughable except that Rove appear to be taking himself quite seriously.
The world and a majority in this country can count our blessings that the country is in the hands of a President who has morals and a vision of a better world.
flight Says:
The speech is well received around the world and in this country. That is except for the brilliant Carl Rove and his Republican Party.
I loved it when Jon Stewart said “but what did the extremists think?” right before going to a bunch of FAUX News clips on it.
June 5th, 2009 at 9:38 pmDid anyone throw shoes at Obama?
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June 6th, 2009 at 7:38 amThe most powerful thing that Barack Obama has done to win the respect of the Islamic people, of the Muslim people around the world was three well-placed shots to in a negotiation with terrorists who had hijacked a U.S. boat.
I’m not sure if anyone here has mentioned this, but did anyone else notice how KKKarl labeled all muslims as terrorists in that quote?
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I’m not sure if anyone here has mentioned this, but did anyone else notice how KKKarl labeled all muslims as terrorists in that quote?
I hadn’t noticed! Good eye there.
Perhaps he would have been happier if Obama had pulled out a Steyr Aug and mowed down the audience in Cairo. Sick bastard…
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