Murdoch: ‘If we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news.’
Murdoch: ‘If we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news.’
Today, News Corp. CEO Rupert Murdoch sat down with Fox News host Neil Cavuto for a softball interview. At one point, Cavuto asked Murdoch if he feels like Rodney Dangerfield — “not getting that respect” — even though Fox is “pretty much the envy of the world right now.” When Cavuto asked about perceptions that Fox isn’t fair and balanced, Murdoch said that those allegations were “obviously not true”:
If we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news — by a very wide margin. People believe we’re fair and balanced, and they love us.
Watch it:
There’s no proof that the American public is tuning into Fox because it genuinely believes the network is fair and balanced. After all, a 2008 poll found that just three percent of O’Reilly’s viewers identified themselves as liberal. Twenty-four percent called themselves moderates, and 66 percent said they were conservative. Similar numbers were found in the survey for Hannity’s show. Media watchdog group FAIR has called Fox “the most biased name in news,” and a Fox News vice president admitted that the network’s job was to be “the voice of opposition” to the Obama administration.
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There is no “fair and balanced” in news.
Rupert is feeling the pinch in his wallet. Heh.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:33 pmI wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin’ bushwackin’, hornswagglin’ cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter
more truthful Mudrock….
June 8th, 2009 at 5:33 pmWhats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL
June 8th, 2009 at 5:33 pmPeople go to sideshows and horrow flicks not becuase they think they are real. The find the stupidity amusing. It is entertainment that is all.
Oh and by the way “the freedom” is a tool, a fraud, and a clown who deserves to be ridiculed
cheers-
June 8th, 2009 at 5:34 pmMore likely it is that old proverb, “People believe what they want to believe and disregard the rest.” Fux just delivers the lies, smears and propaganda that their audience feels comfortable with, with their narrow world views.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:35 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
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Whats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL
June 8th, 2009 at 5:36 pmWhat is your point? Micky D’s sell millions of gut bombs but some people would rather eat at a real restraunt and have a steak. Or better yet lobster.
Aren’t ABC and NBC and CBS networks with news? How do Faux’s compare to theirs?
June 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pmMurdoch: ‘If we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news.’
– - Rupert’s numbers are so big because he’s the only blatantly right-wing news organization at a national level. Monopolies tend to be monolithic.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pmShould viewer counts include the elderly lounging in their nursing home day rooms?
June 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
Whats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL
Say the BIG lie, “Fair and Balanced” long enough, loud enough and those with small minds will believe.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:39 pm“Whats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL”
Dear jimmy dumba**,
June 8th, 2009 at 5:39 pmSmart people do not watch tv! Period.
Faux polls still show something like 89% think McCain will win the election!
June 8th, 2009 at 5:39 pmlimpbone has to do the same thing… keep repeating how fair and right and smart and great he is…
people like that are mostly trying to convince themselves…
June 8th, 2009 at 5:39 pmbut, it does work on idjits too…
Nice excuse makete. Fact is, we have CNN, Fox, and MSNBC as major news outlets in cable america. Fox gets the most viewers, by FAR! When Americans want news, they watch FOX NEWS.
And yes Fox has a conservative bias, because CNN and MSNBC have a liberal bias! ( cnn is getting a tad better though )
June 8th, 2009 at 5:39 pmWhats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL
Jimmy,
June 8th, 2009 at 5:41 pmSmart people don’t watch tv! Period!
Say the BIG lie, “Fair and Balanced” long enough, loud enough and those with small minds will believe.
Oh, yeah, and the blondes with short skirts has nothing to do with ratings either. I think the wingnuts turn down the volume and just oggle at the news models.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:42 pmWhen Rupert quits his game of selling his network to chains and franchises, let us see where his ratings go.
There is a reason toilets have a flush lever for when you are done dumping crap.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:42 pmHere we go comparing apples with oranges again. Murdoch is the head of the beast so all the dingle-berries hanging off Murdoch, like Jimmy here, won’t bother to see the incompetent comparison
June 8th, 2009 at 5:43 pmFOX
WWF
Adam Sandler movies
The National Inquirer
Cholesterol laden foods
All of these are “popular” by ratings or sales. That does not mean they are “truthful” or “good for you”.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:43 pm“FAR from BALANCED”
“We DISTORT you DECIDE”
Fox News Reporting here – latest just in, an un-named source has just told our reports that Jimmy Big Bucks is believed to have been blowing the local goats. His neighbors are concerned that their goats may be having too good of a time due to Jimmy Big Bucks cupping of their huge goat balls, teabagging has been thought to have been seen by many.
Jimmy Big Bucks had no comment, as his mouth was full at the time.
I report, you decide.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pmRatings are not what common sense is based upon. A news program whose main priority is to slam everything about our current administration is the most un-American interprise there is. BillO is an embarrassment to television and the rest of the goofballs all follow their scripts beautifully so that they can keep that same frightened and paranoid audience.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pmRupert’s game of having his channel be the only one shown in places like Mickey D;’s and Taco Bell and many other chains does not mean people want to watch his crap.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:46 pmBy that logic, “American Idol” has the best singers and Thomas Kinkade (’painter of light’) is better than daVinci.
Sophism, the last bastion of conservatism rationale.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:46 pmApplebee’s is not cuisine. Do you get what I am saying Jimmy Big Bucks?
June 8th, 2009 at 5:46 pmThe only people I know who watch Fox Comedy Network and take it seriously as news will pass on from old age within the next ten years. Everyone else I know who watches it does so for either the echo chamber effect or for comedic value. If you want to brag about one percent of the population watching on a good night be my guest. If you believe those ratings give you any substantial influence or that the revenue is doing anything more than propping up Murdoch’s sagging print empire then you are delusional enough to take the Fox lineup seriously.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:47 pmFox News knows it’s out to piss people off and they love it. People like O’Reilly live for that. To conglomerate owners like Murdoch their news outlets are just one of their products trying to reel in customers. Fox has found a successful formula and is running with it.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:48 pmReich-wingers like little Jimmy always use “ratings” in their arguments to defend the lies and propaganda Fox pushes. All the ratings really prove is the huge number of gullible viewers they have. And to paraphrase the excellent point made by Makete at #6, McDonalds sells 1000’s of burgers a day, but that doesn’t make them the best burgers.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:49 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
Whats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LO
People slow down to look at fatal car crashes too…
June 8th, 2009 at 5:50 pmwhen news is judged and gauged by it’s ability to make money then it is no longer news. it’s entertainment.
you can be #1 in all the polls/ratings dipshit, it doesn’t make it accurate.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:51 pmJimmy, are you suggesting that the ratings success of Faux News represents a triumph of the conservative message in the marketplace of ideas?
June 8th, 2009 at 5:52 pmIf we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news — by a very wide margin
They’re neither fair nor balanced. But here’s the important point – What they do isn’t news. FAUX Noise is to news as pro wrestling is to sports. It’s news-like, but it’s there solely to make conservatives feel good about believing the horrible things they believe.
As such, comparing their ratings to actual news channels is an apples-and-oranges proposition. Compared to entertainment channels (oranges-to-oranges), they’re not doing so great. They might as well call themselves a shopping channel and claim cable supremacy over all of the other shopping networks! It’s easy to “win” when you get to decide who you’re being compared to. But by any objective standard of comparison, as they’re not delivering television journalism, their ratings compared to television journalism networks is completely irrelevant.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:54 pmWhen Fox blatantly promoted a protest against a Democratic President they lost all claim to being fair and balanced and a news organization.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:55 pmPeople still gamble at casinos by the millions, still thinking they will win.
Delusion is Murdoch’s secret formula by pandering to the lowest common denominator; those who wish to be told how to think so they won’t waste their ‘beautiful minds’ on anything other than which toppings for their pizza…
June 8th, 2009 at 5:55 pm“FoxNewsiness”
June 8th, 2009 at 5:57 pmThis is what happens when you gut funding for public education…you end up with a nation of dolts who watch fox…no brainer really…
June 8th, 2009 at 5:59 pmOh, hell, jack, they lost that when they sued in court for the right to lie AND WON.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pmOkay what is the correlation to that and conservative political wins? Zero.
Remember 297 million people dont watch FOX
June 8th, 2009 at 6:02 pmThe thing that really confuses me is even the most die-hard conservative has to know that FAUX Noise isn’t “fair and balanced.” That’s why they like it so much. If it really was “fair and balanced,” then half of its viewership would be at least center-left, right?
It’s fine if you have your own political channel where they repeat things that you agree with. Go ahead and do that all you want, wingnuts. Have fun. But there’s no need to pretend about it.
I mean, it’s not like we’re going around talking Air America up as being completely centrist and unbiased journalism, because we know that would be a blatant lie.
Can you people do anything without lying about it?
June 8th, 2009 at 6:05 pmwatchdog Says:
No Stupid People are told what smart people do.
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wtf?
:|
June 8th, 2009 at 6:06 pmfox news has down to earth people. hardworking successful people watching hardworking successful people.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:07 pmIf Fox were Fair and balanced, instead of a repository for ethically lapsed right wing political hacks, it would not get 66% of conservative viewers. It would get far less.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:08 pmAnd “Reality” TV Shows have better ratings than the news.
So are the reality shows better news than the news ?
June 8th, 2009 at 6:10 pmthe freedom Says: fox news has down to earth people. hardworking successful people watching hardworking successful people.
Remember the population of America is over 300 million. 297 million hardworking people dont watch failed political hacks calling their inane diatribes news.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:11 pmThey are also NOT the number one network news. They may be the number one network news on cable, but not overall.
Plus, the only reason why they are number one on cable is because CNN and MSNBC split the more intelligent news viewers and because FOX is available on the basic cable lineup and CNN and MSNBC are only available on the premium lineup.
When it is a level playing field and the same number of viewers can access CNN and MSNBC, then and only then can they have bragging rights.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:11 pmfox news has down to earth people. hardworking successful people watching hardworking successful people.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:12 pm—
mostly it is people just killing time waiting for the Simpsons/ So what was that career of yours again? Seems to me research has indicated Fox viewers are somewhat less educated and I also remember research showing the less educated make less money. Do you see a pattern here?
Jimmy Big Bucks Says:
Whats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL
Prove it.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:12 pmLooks like the person claiming that Faux has “10 times” the ratings of other channels is math challenged.
For this to happen, Faux would have to get over 90% to MSNBC getting less than 9%.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:13 pmHey, when the heck is Neil Cavuto ever gonna talk about “business”?
Bwahahahah
June 8th, 2009 at 6:13 pmNEW YORK — An estimated 30.1 million people watched the season debut of “American Idol,” which left Fox’s entertainment chief “….not satisfied.”
American Idol…successful people watching unsuccessful people…way more then FOX news!!
HAHAHAHHA
June 8th, 2009 at 6:14 pmWorking hard at telling lies to those working hard to believe them…despite all evidence to the contrary…LSD has not been good to you…No R.S.V.P required…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:14 pmGood luck with that request, Bilbo. I’m still waiting on JImmy to clarify what point he’s trying to make by crowing about Faux’s ratings.
Why can’t I ever get an opposing voice to answer that simple question?
June 8th, 2009 at 6:15 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
Nice excuse makete. Fact is, we have CNN, Fox, and MSNBC as major news outlets in cable america. Fox gets the most viewers, by FAR! When Americans want news, they watch FOX NEWS.
And yes Fox has a conservative bias, because CNN and MSNBC have a liberal bias! ( cnn is getting a tad better though )
So, CNN and MSNBC split the intelligent news viewers. Add the two together and they have more viewers than Fox.
Besides, Fox has to pay to get their viewers. They pay hotels, bars and restaurants to show only Fox and they pay the cable companies to place Fox in the basic package while MSNBC and CNN are in the premium package (meaning a viewer has to pay more to have them available).
When it’s a level playing field, come back and talk.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:16 pmYanno, I wonder how an ‘investor’ could make money with maff like that
June 8th, 2009 at 6:16 pmIt is really sad when ‘news’ fits into the Gumpishness of stupid is as stupid does.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pmsomeone might have said this already… i didn’t read the comments.
so if i’m stepping on someones point, i apologize.
the ratings things is very simple.
fox news is by no means fair and balanced. it is incredibly biased. but it is incredibly biased towards the far right.
our nation is incredibly polarized politically so by being the network that panders exclusively to people who already share their world view, they corner the market.
other news networks that deal more in reality and reporting the news, rather than promoting their own world-view, split other rational viewers. The simple fact is because the other networks compete with eachother, they have less ratings.
fox has cornered the far right market…. the moderate and liberal market is split between other much more respected news agencies.
so yes, fox can keep its ratings… but they can also keep their sub-standard journalism.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pmI think us liberals DONT watch as much TV as the CONS do. There are better things to do like rebuilding our lives after the last 8 years. Hence the skewed ratings numbers.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pmI see FOX news all the time. Blaring away in bars and no one is paying it any attention….
June 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pmAmerican Idol…successful people watching unsuccessful people…way more then FOX news!!
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equalize your ideology. that is, unsuccessful people watching unsuccessful people, or obama voters watching obama voters.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:18 pmHah! Stupid libs. This isn’t about mcdonalds or american idol, it’s about NEWS. And the majority of Americans pick FOX NEWS!
And yes CBS, MSNB and CNN all come with regular cable! I should know, I have regular cable. Every time I accidently flick past one of those commie cesspit channels I puke a little bit.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pmUmm American Idol comes on the FOX channel….
June 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pmThat squeaking again… it sounds a little like someone trying to stuff ten gallons of shit into a five gallon metal bucket…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pmOk, we all know that Fox has a lock on the right wing whack job crowd. And CNN and MSNBC split the more moderate to progressive crowd. So, here are the stats:
In the key 25-54 demographic, FNC expanded upon an already commanding lead in prime time averaging 511,000 viewers (up 19%) compared with CNN’s 343,000 (down 22%) and MSNBC’s 343,000 (up 7%). In total day, FNC averaged 317,000 (up 23%) compared to CNN’s 236,000 (up 7%) and MSNBC’s 180,000 (up 11%).
So, if you add CNN and MSNBC, they out perform Fox every time.
When you have a lock on an audience and other stations split the rest of us, it’s a given that the one with the lock is going to perform better than the ones that split the audience.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pmBetter analogy…unsuccessful reightwing trolls pestering successful leftwing posters on a vibrant intellectual website…Please do not reply you are too busy using your blackberry on eharmony & watching your George Patton Deluxe DVD’s…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:23 pmThere you are, JImmy! I thought you’d left us.
Care to elaborate on the point you’re trying to make when citing the ratings success of Faux News?
Does it have anything to do with a triumph of a conservative message in the marketplace of ideas?
Thanks.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:24 pmIts not News when you go to court so you can LIE to the viewers. Thats called propaganda. News involves, you know, facts.
Heres a question, how many times has William Kristol been correct?
June 8th, 2009 at 6:25 pmEasy lib, Patton was an amazing man. Leave him out of this please.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:26 pmFYT =)
June 8th, 2009 at 6:26 pmLately I find
DEMOCRACYNOW
ALTERNET
THERAWSTORY
a lot more “Progressive” and informative than ‘ThinkProgress’
Obama’s Broken Promises
By David Sirota, AlterNet. Posted June 8, 2009.
President Obama has reneged on many of his campaign promises. Why are we letting him get away with it?
119 Million Americans Want a Public Health Option — Why Aren’t Politicians Listening?
Obama’s Pick to Lead Afghan War Linked to Abuse of Prisoners & Secret Assassination Unit
For a few weeks now I find ‘ThinkProgress’ falling behind…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:27 pmsuccessful leftwing posters
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oxymoron. successful doing what? office chatter and paper pushing? did you green something today?
June 8th, 2009 at 6:27 pmDow Jones up 1.36 [close]
June 8th, 2009 at 6:28 pmPatton was a militarist psychotic who barely functioned in wartime.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:28 pmpastcaring hates the military, no surprise.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:28 pmWhats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has.
Geez. I didn’t realize the margin between complete asswipes to smart people was 10 to one? I had it higher, really. More like 50-1, morons leading.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:29 pmI hate “the freedom” and it figures as I hate all pretenders…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
Hah! Stupid libs. This isn’t about mcdonalds or american idol, it’s about NEWS. And the majority of Americans pick FOX NEWS!
So you are saying that more people watch Fox News than all other cable and network stations combined? Prove it or STFU.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pmEvery time some dingleberry reightwinger wants to cite FOX’s ratings as proof of how great FOX Is, they should have this number thrown right back in their faces: 69,498,215
That’s the number of Americans that voted for Obama…more than the pissy number that watch Fox…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pmJust how is it, with Republican ratings down in the 20
5 or less range, their TV station has the supposedly highest ratings?
Who is zooming who here?
June 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pmMedia watchdog group FAIR has called Fox “the most biased name in news,”
Oh the irony.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_and_Accuracy_in_Reporting
Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) is a progressive media criticism organization based in New York City, founded in 1986
June 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pmHOW.DARE.YOU.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pmFOX went around giving bars, clubs, exercise facilities free cable if they agreed to keep it on the FOX news channel. Much like MSNBC did for wall street investors so they could watch their always wrong boy Cramer.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
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Whats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL
June 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm=========================================================
When all you knuckle dragging, haters in the 21% watch the same comedy channel, you have a skewed number. We on the other hand, have a choice. Some of us choose to not watch any of the bs on the not so liberal media. We get real facts from the ETHERNET as Norm Coleman calls it.
I don’t even have tv but I still find it amusing playing with those who sit in front of theirs. Deciding which mind numbing crap is less mind numbing
June 8th, 2009 at 6:33 pmEasy, Jimmy. He was a nutbag who was willing to do crap no other rational general would. And his troops tended to hate him.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:33 pmEasy lib, Patton was an amazing man.
Who thought soldiers suffering from PTSD were simply cowards…
Yup, amazing is the right word.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:33 pmTalk to your playmate….the freedom to be dumb…he has an excellent George Patton Deluxe DVD Collection…or did he not text you on his blackberry? …No guess not…Please, do not R.S.V.P…this does not mean i want to talk to you…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:34 pmHOW.DARE.YOU.
Another homeschooler, raised on war movies.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pmI dare you hard on fakes to do something about it…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pmRiiiiight Murdoch – any people read Playboy for the Articles too.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pmpastcaring Says:
Every time some dingleberry reightwinger wants to cite FOX’s ratings as proof of how great FOX Is, they should have this number thrown right back in their faces: 69,498,215
Really. If the Fox Propaganda network is doing so well, then why is it that the Republics have lost 37% of their members in Congress in the last two elections and they lost the last election by almost 10 million votes (4 x the number of people who watch the Fox Propaganda network).
June 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pmthe freedom Says:
pastcaring hates the military, no surprise.
If you love th military so much, why haven’t you enlisted to go fight your war of lies in Iraq? Oh that’s right, you’re a right-wing coward…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:36 pmP.S. thanks for the compliment…proud to be a ‘lib’ if that means I’m nothing like you…Please do not reply, I’m not interested in what you ‘think’…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:36 pmXisithrus Says:
FOX went around giving bars, clubs, exercise facilities free cable if they agreed to keep it on the FOX news channel. Much like MSNBC did for wall street investors so they could watch their always wrong boy Cramer.
Actually, that’s not right. They pay the bars, restaurants, hotels, etc. to run only their network. I was in a Hilton bar and was told that they couldn’t change the station because it was a direct feed from headquarters. Of course what was on was Fox. I did talk him into turning off the TV.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:38 pmCrazy…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:38 pmHuh. I’ve lost Jimmy’s attention again.
Why do conservatives seem so reluctant to clarify that one point — what are they hoping to demonstrate by citing the ratings success of Faux News?
June 8th, 2009 at 6:38 pmFair and balanced? Not so much.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:38 pmIt’s called entertainment value…
For the Patton-is-godly crowd, what happened to the man after the war?
June 8th, 2009 at 6:38 pmNo proof…no surprise…it sounds like you speak from a self-induced coma of inadequacy, idiocy and regret; a cesspool of republican hypocrisy if you will…by your own admission, we know your only experience with the military is watching it on DVD…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:39 pmJimmy Big Bucks – we are still waiting for you to prove that
June 8th, 2009 at 6:39 pmmore people watch Fox News than all other cable and network stations combined? Why can’t you prove it? Could it be because you were talking out of your a$$ and can’t prove it?
Face it, Rupert (and trolls) if you didn’t pay people to show your pathetic network the ratings would be in the single digits.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:40 pmparron died in a car-accident right at the nd of the war, iirc
June 8th, 2009 at 6:40 pmGeorge patton was a troop hating punk. He attacked the hooverville residents in 1932 who were only trying to get the benefits they earned.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:41 pmReally, FOX has all these failed right wing hacks, Limbaugh, the drug addict, O’Reilly, Huckabee, Beck, all these radio stations, and they are chasing people away from their ideology.
Heckuva Job Rupert!
Seriously, their ratings are inflated terribly.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:41 pmIf you love th military so much, why haven’t you enlisted to go fight your war of lies in Iraq? Oh that’s right, you’re a right-wing coward…
Patton would puke, were he to see the cowards who defend his legacy.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:42 pmWhat is the total cabloid viewership?
Anybody know?
Not all cable, just the cabloid ‘info-tainers.’
Anybody know? Gimme a search term, cuz cabloid isn’t gonne get what i need…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pmRupert is wrong..and a foriegner…
June 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pmI don’t watch fox every now again because they’re fair and balanced….
It’s more akin to looking at a bearded lady at the carnival…shortly captivating, and then wonder, then disgust…then leaving the area…
Ahh. I have noticed that, but didnt know about being paid. It figures though,
June 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pmWasn’t Patton sort of gay?
June 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pmRupert’s predicted deathbed confession:
“The whore-er! The whore-er!”
(Apologies to Conrad…)
June 8th, 2009 at 6:44 pmFYI: re the term “lib.”
Boss Limbaugh began using it on his radio show years ago. My brother is a big Dittohead and he started using it to insult me – that’s how I found out about its origin.
Anyway, with regard to Rupert Murdoch and these words:
Conservatives ALL know that if you say something over and over again, no matter how dishonest or misleading, people will start to believe that it is true. Rupert honestly believes his own claim.
That is the secret to the “success” of FOX News.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:45 pmdbadass Says:
Wasn’t Patton sort of gay?
The riding crop is a dead giveaway.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:45 pmFOX takes advantage of CUME ratings by having those Teevess tuned to their channel 24/7
June 8th, 2009 at 6:45 pmMurdoch is a manipulative sack o’ shyte. Fox Noise is the No. 1 “cable” news channel, but not No. 1 when you take into account the networks like NBC, CBS, and ABC. The networks dwarf the cable news shows.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:45 pmRiddle me this Rupert-Man: If you are #1 in news, and you were championing the GOP, why did they do so badly in the last two elections. It is because the majority of Americans no longer believe the GOP or FOX news. You have both lost your credability.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:46 pmGeorge loved tanks. He would sacrifice anything and anyone so his tanks could roll.
He just wanted the big hard ones out front.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:48 pm‘If we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news’ should read, ‘If we weren’t ON EVERY OTHER CHANNEL ON THE DIAL, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news’. There. Fixed it for Murdoch.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:48 pmI love how the wingers who are brainwashed by Fox said on Teabag Day, “Over 3 million viewers! Everyone was watching Fox! Ha ha libs.”, but they were forgetting we were watching just to see how ridiculously stupid the right wingers of America are. It’s like slowing down to catch a glimpse of a fatal accident!
June 8th, 2009 at 6:51 pmBefore he was fatally injured in an auto crash, General George S. Patton had decided to dramatically resign from the Army with a characteristically spectacular statement that be was taking this unusual step, “to be free to live my own way of life.”
June 8th, 2009 at 6:51 pmI recall over the years how well Huck Hogan, Vince McMan, The Rock, and Stone Cold Steve Austin all being very popular. They brought WWF a great deal of fans packing stadiums and selling record pay-per-views for their special events. It must have been due to them being fair and balanced.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pmHugh Hefner: “We wouldn’t be the #1 Men’s Magazine if it weren’t for our fine writing”.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pmGuess how many journalism awards faux has ?
Hint: it’s a nice round figure, that starts with Z
June 8th, 2009 at 7:01 pmOn one hand they claim to be the voice of opposition to the Obama administration and on the other hand they claim to be fair and balanced.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:02 pmFox news is ever-present on all TV channels nationwide. They are “free” to cable subscribers; they are on “free” TV under at least one if not two channels.
Many people who don’t pay for cable, don’t get CNN.
Many people who don’t pay for premium cable don’t get MSNBC.
The audiences for Fox competition is limited by those simple facts.
King Murdoch is making false charges to elevate himself and his empire to his servants and subjects.
the freedom Says:
fox news has down to earth people.
Makeup-wearing, perfectly coiffed plastic white people intentionally repeating lies to mislead their viewership. You’re being used.
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Xisithrus Says:
Hey, when the heck is Neil Cavuto ever gonna talk about “business”?
Bwahahahah
The FAUX Noise theory is that everything Dems do that they don’t like is bad for business, and that Republicans lying to people is good for business. Therefore, Cavuto’s “business” show merely consists of having Republican hacks on to lie to his audience about politics.
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mackeroon Says:
I think us liberals DONT watch as much TV as the CONS do. There are better things to do like rebuilding our lives after the last 8 years. Hence the skewed ratings numbers.
We can get a lot more news and a lot more expert analysis a lot more efficiently on the Internet. There are more sources to choose from and cross-reference. I can get the full story on five different issues between when Rove takes his first gasp for hot air and when he finally shuts up.
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Hoodathunktick Says:
Patton was a militarist psychotic who barely functioned in wartime.
A lot fewer on our side might have died in WWII if they had ani-psychotic medication back then. The guy was certifiable. If his mums and daddums hadn’t pulled strings to get him promoted to the top, he would have died face down in the mud over there, trying to charge a bunker by himself or something.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:04 pmthey do have the pretty women.
the sad part these people really believe they are fair and balanced.
that is the power of paradigms.
we americans have not suffered enough with our super capitalism that reagan put on steroids.
and his reward they put up a stature of him and name an aircraft carrier after him.
profits over people the american way of life.
like a teen ager it is all about me and me and me
June 8th, 2009 at 7:09 pmThe few people I know who watch Fox News do so because they feel life has cheated them and they want someone to blame for their plight.
On the bright side, it doesn’t take long to fact check Fox.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:13 pmMurdoch:
If we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news — by a very wide margin. People believe we’re fair and balanced, and they love us.
Ok, as long as they believe it… it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:16 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 7:16 pmWhats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL
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I guess this “birdbrain” forgot that MSNBC is offered as a premium cable channel and like me and others I only watch MSNBC only online and those figures aren’t calculated in the overall ratings. So I enjoy shows like Keith, Rachel and the Ed Show et al only online.
Ok, I looked it up and it appears that the cable companies do offer CNN in their basic package along with Fox. But I was unable to find one that offered MSNBC in their basic lineup.
To the troll who said they got MSNBC in their basic lineup – what cable provider are you talking about?
June 8th, 2009 at 7:19 pmoldfuzz Says:
The few people I know who watch Fox News do so because they feel life has cheated them and they want someone to blame for their plight.
And yet their fans are always on here talking about how successful they are. Ain’t the Internet fun?
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Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Ok, I looked it up and it appears that the cable companies do offer CNN in their basic package along with Fox. But I was unable to find one that offered MSNBC in their basic lineup.
To the troll who said they got MSNBC in their basic lineup – what cable provider are you talking about?
I get MSNBC on basic from Cox Cable in Portland OR. However – I was unable to get it until they recently distributed set-top boxes to everybody, because it was on channel 128 and my TV only went up to 99. Getting FAUX Noise on 48 had never been a problem though.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pmFor anyone who wonders, Rupert buys everything. Including his ratings.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:31 pmI watch FOX for the comedy (in small doses as I get a little nauseous at times). I find it is also an invaluable insight to Repub/Con thought (or lack of).
June 8th, 2009 at 7:33 pmI dont know anyone that watches FOX news…a friend of mine used to have the TV on but didnt pay attention to it unless some girl or something, usually stuff blowing up, caught his attention, then it was like, yeh we need to blow the crap out of all those _______ [put people/culture here he saw in video] or Id like to do her.
Seriously..
June 8th, 2009 at 7:44 pm#132 Hoodathunktick: Yeah,and he has bought up so many radio & tv stations (Monopoly, anyone? That’s because the FCC is just a shell after Georgie Porgie and his Daddy gutted it–and unfortunately, I think Clinton helped) that he has guaranteed that Faux Noise is the only channel a lot of small towns can get on cable….and probably has greased the wheels of commerce by spreading some cash around in the community businesses & truck stops–ergo, that’s all there is to watch. And anybody who thinks Faux is “fair and balanced”….well, I’ve got a bridge to sell you in Arizona.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:45 pmI am a liberal and i think of myself as educated and having an open mind. I know from being a regular to TP that my fellow libs here are also educated. Im guilty of helping out Fox noise`s ratings by watching billdo and hannity and fox and friends. Do the conservative close minded idiots understand that alot of people watch fox for amusment? Its a fcking joke. I actually laugh at their stupidity and blatant lies. It is so obvious to anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature that they bullsht and just cater to their wingnut audience. FOXNOISE=COMEDY CENTRAL.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pmREAD IT and weep, libs! Hahahahahahaha
June 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
That was from http://www.brutallyhonest.org folks…
June 8th, 2009 at 7:54 pmIf Fox was so widely watched, how come McCain didn’t win the election? God knows they did everything to make him win
June 8th, 2009 at 7:55 pmOnly the Vacuous troll uses a wingnut blog as a source of “facts.”
What a maroon.
June 8th, 2009 at 7:58 pmI can tell from a lot of the comments here that the reason you folks have such a difficult time accepting the truth about Fox News is that your OWN WORLDVIEW is so hopelessly BIASED towards what you want to believe that you simply can’t COMPREHEND alternative points of view.
I listen to both progressive AND conservative radio and TV news, talk shows, etc. and I can tell you without a doubt that it is Fox news and other conservative outlets that present BOTH SIDES of issues. Some more so than others, but I have rarely found balanced commentary on left-wing venues!
Nuff said!
June 8th, 2009 at 7:59 pmAfrolib,
The two aren’t correlated.
The Republican didn’t win because he wasn’t true to conservative principles. Senator McCain who I have enormous respect for BTW just didn’t articulate the conservative message.
The failure of the Republican ticket in no way means that there is a failure of conservative principles and ideals in our great country. Far from it.
June 8th, 2009 at 8:03 pmZooey,
O.K., then. Go to the source AS CITED, dipshyt.
June 8th, 2009 at 8:04 pmHere ya go! This is for you folks that have trouble reading:
http://www.cmpa.com/media_room_press_10_30_08.htm
June 8th, 2009 at 8:06 pmAnyone who can watch PMSMSNBC and think the news and commentary is NOT totally biased and in the tank for our new President is simply biased themselves and unable to discern objective reality.
That’s my take.
June 8th, 2009 at 8:09 pmTim Vaculik Says:
That was from http://www.brutallyhonest.org folks…
I followed your link. I realize you were hoping I wouldn’t. “Brutally Honest” is just the name of some guy’s blog. From his bio:
Yeah, thanks.
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Tim Vaculik Says:
I can tell from a lot of the comments here that the reason you folks have such a difficult time accepting the truth about Fox News is that your OWN WORLDVIEW is so hopelessly BIASED towards what you want to believe that you simply can’t COMPREHEND alternative points of view.
Not at all. Just because I may be biased doesn’t mean the’re not. They’re not middle-of-the-road. They’re clearly right wing.
Which they’re lying about. Why lie about it?
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Tim Vaculik Says:
I listen to both progressive AND conservative radio and TV news, talk shows, etc. and I can tell you without a doubt that it is Fox news and other conservative outlets that present BOTH SIDES of issues.
Nobody on their entire network is a Democrat. Not one person, since they booted Alan Colmes. Shep Smith is as close as it gets to moderate, and he’s center-right. Everybody else there is to the right of him.
When there’s no good news for the Republican party, they stop reporting political news and go straight to missing white women or black male celebrities on trial.
They routinely put two Republicans on the monitor and have them debate with each other as if they’re presenting two sides, even though there aren’t any Democrats.
If by “both sides of issues” you mean whether Obama will turn America into a Communist dictatorship before or after we’re all a smoking crater from terrorist attacks, then sure. But I should inform you there are other sides that you may not be aware of. Because you watch FAUX Noise.
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Tim Vaculik Says:
Anyone who can watch PMSMSNBC and think the news and commentary is NOT totally biased and in the tank for our new President is simply biased themselves and unable to discern objective reality.
Their evening roundup (Maddow/Olbermann/Matthews) is obviously left-leaning. I don’t know about the rest of it. Don’t they also have Scarborough over there?
I’m not going to pretend that MSNBC’s evening lineup is perfectly balanced. Why do you feel the need to pretend about FAUX?
June 8th, 2009 at 8:24 pmLet’s look at your study, Tim…
So giving better press to McCain than Obama is balanced.
They did their study between August 23 and October 24 2008, when McCain was steadily sliding downward in the polls. According to their methodology, reporting that fact would count as a “pro-Obama” story.
So even if a network did nothing but report who’s ahead, this study would count them as being biased for Obama.
For a network to be able to come out (even slightly) pro-McCain under the circumstances that he was facing during that period (”the fundamentals of our economy are strong – wait, WHAT happened to the Dow this morning?!?”) (”I’m suspending my campaing to go to Washington – except I have no plan”) would require for them to be massively tilting the scales in the other direction.
June 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pmIts good to see you are as stupid as ever Timmeh. You are brainwashed and ignorant and you are always going to be brainwashed and ignorant. Anyone who seriously calls Fox balanced is either stupid or a liar. Just face it. You were born stupid and you are going to die stupid. Every day in between you will be stupid
June 8th, 2009 at 8:41 pmmurdoch’s perspective… not so much about “we the people…” :
Obama Push for Public Health Care Plan Stirs Controversy
FOXNews – ?1 hour ago?
President Obama insists that any new health care plan will be paid for and will not add to the deficit. But Republicans are suspicious, in part because Obama has been working only with Democrats, even meeting with them exclusively just before he left …
Business warily awaits health care reform Bizjournals.com
GOP Senators: Public Health Plan Would Mean Govt ‘Takeover’ Wall Street Journal
can’t accuse ‘em of cheer leading…
June 8th, 2009 at 9:10 pmIf we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news — by a very wide margin. People believe we’re fair and balanced, and they love us.
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I assume if you take the Republican base of 20%, and they loyally watch FOX News, that is a big chunk of an audience. The Republican base gets its news solely from FOX News. That is why you are dealing with a village of idiots when you are dealing with the Republican Party. Republicans and FOX News go hand in hand.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:13 pmThe remaining 80% of the voters gets its information from multiple sources, a liberal view of events (looks at all sides).
I think it is obvious that Cheney/Bush were disastrous.
Think of FOX News’ “fair and balanced”.
Obama and the Democrats were elected by the 80% who get their news from sources other than FOX News. The country needs results from its leaders, not rhetoric.
I don’t think Murdoch, his twilight zone and his three stooges are anything to crow about!
Fair & balanced? No- right-wing propaganda is what Murdoch puts foward. And that’s exactly why Fox has a following. The ignorant, right-wing propoaganda-loving audience doesn’t want to hear facts; they want to hear Fox spew its twisted, dishonest smears, its lies, etc. about anyone wqho doesn’t agree wioth them. And that’s why research has shown that Fox viewers are among the most ignorant of any Americans. They listen to & believe lies every day. And because it’s the only network that provides them with the garbage they love to hear, they continue to tune in.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:14 pmFox is number 1! Fox is number 1! But really, when all the wingnuts congregate in one spot, yeah, I guess it looks good, at least from a statistical prospective vs any other network
June 8th, 2009 at 9:17 pmVery good, Timmeh. You found a study that strives to appear “Fair & Balanced”™.
The study’s author, Dr. Robert Lichter, is an academic elite who just happens to have written a book called, The Media Elite that “argued that journalists, on average, held more liberal political views than the general public, and that their backgrounds and outlooks affect their coverage of the news.”
Hmm… where have we heard that before?
Oh yeah — from every wingnut talking head since the Nixon administration.
From Wkipedia: Some critics, such as Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) and the Columbia Journalism Review, have criticized Lichter and the CMPA for holding a conservative bias of their own or for being funded by conservative foundations.
Yeah, that sounds like a real academically rigorous study there, Timmeh.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:18 pmFrom an aesthetic perspective, not so much.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:19 pmobamawipe$ Says:
Spot on, as usual.
Skipped over all of the well-reasoned argumentation and presented mere agreement, as usual.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pmAfrolib,
The two aren’t correlated.
The Republican didn’t win because he wasn’t true to conservative principles. Senator McCain who I have enormous respect for BTW just didn’t articulate the conservative message.
The failure of the Republican ticket in no way means that there is a failure of conservative principles and ideals in our great country. Far from it.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yes, this makes a great deal of sense, sure. So in response, the great masses, obviously yearning for the conservative champion, threw in the towel and went with the liberal black guy. Do you really believe what you just posted?
jeez… didn’t mean to interrupt…
but, i’m curious – which one of ” you folks have such a difficult time accepting the truth about Fox News “???
i thought us folks had if figured out, a LONG time ago…
fox news is state sponsored propaganda… or was… the state is mostly out of it, pubolicly… so, ok, RNC sponsored propaganda… admittedly even…
don’t we also know that msnbc DOES have a bias, to truth…
and truth, we all know, has a liberal bias…
ah well… so it goes…
June 8th, 2009 at 9:22 pmi need to practice with that preview botton…
should be ‘publicly’…
June 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pmGeez, ElBruce… if I had taken the time to read your responses to Tim Vacuous, i could have saved myself the trouble. You eviscerated his argument much more effectively than I did anyway.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pmIf the Reich-wingers think Fox is so well thought of, how come every candidate they backed last year pretty much got smoked, depite the propaganda Fox provided gratis to the GOP.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:24 pmThe GOP (Good Old Pricks) got smoked in the last 2 election cycles. Any talk of the party not being conservative enough is rubbish (such a British word). If Obama can salvage some semblence of sanity to the Nation, they will be outta power for a long time. Maybe you guys can run Ricky Santorum or Tancredo in ‘12 and test that theory of yours?
June 8th, 2009 at 9:30 pmJaybird,
First, our new President didn’t win by that huge of a margin. The truth is that if a truly articulate, viable conservative would have run, he or she would very likely have won the election.
Please don’t confuse membership in the Republican Party with conservative values that a majority of Americans still identify with.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:31 pmREAD IT AND STFU:
from Alan Colmes at http://www.alan.com/2008/08/17/fox-vs-msnbc-vs-cnn/
June 8th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
more:
http://www.journalism.org/node/13436#fn1
June 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
You folks can try to wish it away, but the FACTS speak for themselves.
Fox News is FAIR and BALANCED.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:43 pmno. it’s not.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:55 pmI believe hat Fox News is the number one cable news channel because the majority of conservative viewers don’t have other conservative news alternatives.
The liberal news viewers have a plethora of choices, and, therefore, alternatives. There is more competition for that demographic. The “best” liberal news channel will alway have less ratings/viewers than the FNC
Fox News has really attractive – controversial – commentators. This is also a factor to their ratings dominance, but it’s not the only or main element for their success. Is really a combination of these two and some other minor aspects.
Fox News moto “Fair and Balance” is flawed. It just doesn’t hold – It actually appears less and less in between segments and programs. This is not just a coincidence.
Now, if Murdoch believes that his profitable channel is truthly “Fair and Balance”, how can he explain the anti-Obama/Goverment rhetoric from Beck, Hannity, O’Rilley – Ok: O’Reilly wants to appear as a conscious moderate commentator/person… but his is definitely a lesser/cable TV Maquiavelo -, Ingram, Cavuto and the vast majority of their guests and promos?
The FCN has a the pulse on their niche – that explains Beck – and that’s why the keep moving towards what that market wants to hear and watch.
Bottom line: for the FCN more and more is not about the truth that comes from journalism. Is a bout the righteousness in their brand of infotainment/ business.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:59 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Very good, Timmeh. You found a study that strives to appear “Fair & Balanced”™.
The study’s author, Dr. Robert Lichter, is an academic elite who just happens to have written a book called, The Media Elite…
But, but, his center says its unbiased and bipartisan! Don’t you magically achieve neutrality just by claiming you have it? Oh yeah, that’s what this entire discussion was about to begin with…
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Tim Vaculik Says:
READ IT AND STFU:
from Alan Colmes…
The “house negro” of the (pretends to be) Democratic punditocracy? No thanks.
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Tim Vaculik Says:
You folks can try to wish it away, but the FACTS speak for themselves.
Fox News is FAIR and BALANCED.
Your Googles aside, how can you believe that? You’re a conservative. You like everything on that network. Therefore it can’t be fair and balanced. In order fot that to be the case, it would have to present things you disagreed with half of the time, rather than 0% of the time.
June 8th, 2009 at 10:00 pmColmes said “This represents a fair and balanced audience of viewers who are engaged, who vote, and who Democrats need if they’re going to win elections.”
OK, Tim V., you went to the trouble of finding a cooked survey, but your post tears your “logic” down. If the Dems need the Fox demographic to win elections, then what happened last year and in 2006? Clearly the Dems don’t need Fox, while the Reich needs Fox desperately as a conduit for their misinformation.
And who told you Pew was left-leaning? Someone at Fox?
June 8th, 2009 at 10:02 pmsince Americans have a love affair with bimbos (male and female), Foes popularity only proves that they have the largest number of bimbos on display.
June 8th, 2009 at 10:16 pmFoes = Fox’s
June 8th, 2009 at 10:16 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Zooey,
O.K., then. Go to the source AS CITED, dipshyt.
June 8th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
You’re the f uckwit who can’t properly post a link, and got caught with his pants down — AGAIN.
It must upset you that all the girls laugh when your pants are down.
June 8th, 2009 at 10:31 pmAnyone in my house that changes to a fox channel gets permanently relieved of their remote control privileges.
June 8th, 2009 at 10:32 pmNo negotiations.
“foes” works too, pluege…
June 8th, 2009 at 10:49 pmMurdoch: ‘If we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news.’
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!
Oh, Rupie – yer such a funny guy! ARRRRRRRRRRRRR!
June 8th, 2009 at 11:01 pmElBruce,
You may be surprised to know I don’t always agree with what I see on Fox News, both to the liberal point of view as well as more to the conservative side.
In other words, I try to be balanced in my own intake of news and commentary. Sometimes I think Fox News is too liberal!
June 8th, 2009 at 11:04 pmThe two biggest lies of the century: “Fair and Balanced” and “It’s not torture”.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:16 pmThis is a flat out lie from Ruppert. Fox has a number one rating for cable news. Network news has a much larger number of viewers. Most Americans don’t have a news channel going on all day. ABC has around 9 million viewers.
Let’s put the large-ness of 3 million Americans into perspective
3 million Americans:
allergic to peanuts’’struggle with stuttering
could have Barret’s esophagus
are affected by panic disorders
suffer from schizophrenia
have now been out of work for six months
are of Arab descent
are wearing the white band
have glaucoma
will seek medical care in the next 24 hours
have at least partial Lebanese ancestry
have an unintended pregnancy each year
are employed within the justice system
work for firms owned by foreign companies
suffer with Grave’s disease
June 8th, 2009 at 11:48 pmWhat does popularity have to do with truth? What does the popularity of a film have to do with its quality? How did a man who lost an election become President? How did we enter a war of choice when the President said it was necessity? How could we be Americans and torture people?
June 9th, 2009 at 1:56 amTim Vaculik Says:
ElBruce,
You may be surprised to know I don’t always agree with what I see on Fox News, both to the liberal point of view as well as more to the conservative side.
In other words, I try to be balanced in my own intake of news and commentary. Sometimes I think Fox News is too liberal!
There isn’t a liberal side on Fox. Liasson and Williams are beltway hacks, who also push Right-wing memes when it’s convenient. Fake libs, and he thinks Fox is too liberal? The guy would probably faint if he heard an actual left-wing opinion on Fox.
June 9th, 2009 at 5:40 amA couple more Murdoch quotes:
“For better or for worse, our company (The News Corporation Ltd.) is a reflection of my thinking, my character, my values.”
“safeguard national culture.”
June 9th, 2009 at 9:24 am‘If we weren’t fair and balanced, we wouldn’t have the number one network in news.’”
HaHa, pretty funny coming from an organization that went to court to protect their right to LIE and MISINFORM people.
That so many watch those lies is all the more disturbing, not a feather in the cap of America, eh?
June 9th, 2009 at 9:32 amAnd hundreds of times the people watch American Idol than watch Nova on PBS. (if not thousands. I don’t have the real numbers).
So American Idol has more truthiness and is more educational than Nova.
June 9th, 2009 at 12:49 pmDidn’t Faux news defend itself from a lawsuit by claiming that it wasn’t a news outlet ?
June 9th, 2009 at 12:49 pmJimmybb says:
Whats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL</em
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You left out one little piece of info. Most if not all cable packages the corporate media push includes Faux as part of their basic news packages. They want you to pay for the news stations that have Olberman, Maddow etc…
June 9th, 2009 at 12:53 pmJust more proof that intelligent people don’t watch much TV.
June 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pmFair and balanced. Sure. That’s what made Der Sturmer so popular in Germany, RTLM so popular in Rwanda, and Pravda the most popular paper in the USSR.
June 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pmMurdoch is a modern day version of Julius Streicher. Nothing more, nothing less.
Jimmy Big Bucks says:
“Whats your excuse libs? Fox has 10 times the ratings CNN or MSNBC has. O’rielly and hannity destroy olbermans ratings by the millions. It’s not even CLOSE. LOL”
Rightwing Morons watch Fox Noise to hear their paranoid delusions reinforced in the echo chamber.
These peabrains are the lower IQ equivalent of the readers of the Wall Street Journal’s Editorial Page who:
1. Read a NEWS story on page one, written by a REPORTER;
2. Turn to the editorial page to read an OP-ED piece written by a RWN HACK that directly contradicts the news piece;
3. Incorporate the HACK piece into their world-view construct;
4. And suppress the NEWS piece so as not to be confused by facts.
The difference, of course: Most Fox viewers can’t read.
June 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm#166 Tim Vaculik claims that the PEW findings at http://www.journalism.org/node/13436#fn1 show that (according to Tim) “FOXNEWS provided the most balanced cable coverage of the 2008 presidential election among major news outlets (CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS)”
Tim’s claim, to put as friendly a face as possible on it, is complete bunk.
Here are some quotes from Tim’s PEW link:
June 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pmIn cable, the evidence firmly suggests there now really is an ideological divide between two of the three channels, at least in their coverage of the campaign…
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More quotes:?Things look much better for Barack Obama—and much worse for John McCain—on MSNBC than in most other news outlets. On the Fox News Channel, the coverage of the presidential candidates is something of a mirror image of that seen on MSNBC.
The tone of CNN’s coverage, meanwhile, lay somewhere in the middle of the cable spectrum, and was generally more negative than the press overall.
On the evening newscasts of the three traditional networks… ABC, CBS and NBC, coverage tends to be more neutral and generally less negative than elsewhere.
The numbers Tim cites are also wrong. His post is wrong all over.
June 9th, 2009 at 2:50 pmOnce again a Fox talking head misstates the facts. They are only #1 in cable news and not even close to CBS,NBC or ABC in viewership. There is also a reason for that and that is because they validate a certain segment of our populations views which have nothing to do with reality. All the rest of the news outlets split up the rest of us. Of course facts never stood in the way of what Faux News puts out.
June 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pmWorth mentioning again: FAUX Noise is not “news.” Comparing it to actual cable news channels is meaningless.
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cdwriteme Says:
A couple more Murdoch quotes:
“For better or for worse, our company (The News Corporation Ltd.) is a reflection of my thinking, my character, my values.”
Is it of concern to anyone else that our politics is being significantly influenced by an Australian?
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iLarynx Says:
Fair and balanced. Sure. That’s what made Der Sturmer so popular in Germany, RTLM so popular in Rwanda, and Pravda the most popular paper in the USSR.
I think they all claimed to be fair and balanced too, didn’t they?
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iLarynx Says:
The numbers Tim cites are also wrong. His post is wrong all over.
Well, he just read the conclusion. He didn’t look at the underlying evidence. That’s how they roll. Speaking of which, where were those WMD’s again?
June 9th, 2009 at 10:59 pmThe two biggest lies of the century: “Fair and balanced” and “It’s not torture.”
June 12th, 2009 at 12:16 am