Palin on Obama administration: ‘We told ya so.’
Palin on Obama administration: ‘We told ya so.’
Tonight, Fox News’s Sean Hannity will air an interview with Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK). In portions of the transcript leaked to the Drudge Report, Palin agrees that the U.S. is on the road to socialism, adding, “we told ya so”:
HANNITY: You know but it goes back – It does go back a little to the campaign. I mean, ‘spread the wealth, patriotic duty…’
PALIN: Kind of a ‘we told ya so’.
HANNITY: Well, is that how you feel?
PALIN: That’s how I feel! … And this many months into the new administration, quite disappointed, quite frustrated with not seeing those actions to rein in spending, slow down the growth of government. Instead Sean it is the complete opposite. It’s expanding at such a large degree that if Americans aren’t paying attention, unfortunately our country could evolve into something that we do not even recognize.
HANNITY: Socialism?
PALIN: Well, that is where we are headed. That is where we have to be blunt enough and candid enough and honest enough with Americans to let them know that if we keep going down these roads… nationalizing many of our services, our projects, our businesses, yes that is where we would head.
Even if the National Republican Congressional Committee and Senatorial Committee won’t have her, Palin will always be welcome at Fox News.
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Hey Bimbo. You lost. We won and the President is doing exactly what we expect him to do. Only mental midgets like you and insannity would think the days of free market capitalism worked. Your party got us to where we are now. Now take this: Ronnie Raygun and his policies failed!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pmGroan…
It must be her superior intellect that comes to this conclusion…you betcha.
Gotta go now and shoot a polar bear…you betcha.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pmI’ll take competent socialism any day over the Republicans’ laissez-faire cage match interrupted with bouts of panicked government intervention when it all goes south.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pmShe’s BACK… Jesus. This woman is a disaster. She has the intelligence of a gnat.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:12 pmHey, let’s go ask the losers what they think! After all since they lost the popularity contest they must be popular!
And this many months into the new administration, quite disappointed, quite frustrated with not seeing those actions to rein in spending, slow down the growth of government.
It’s just bizarre how she doesn’t use subject-nouns or verbs. Those are the basis of language.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:13 pmHey, credit where credit is due gang — she didn’t once say “you betcha” or wink at The Manatee…
June 8th, 2009 at 1:14 pmshe’s so nice in person, down to earth. she has a care about the customer mentality. the dem politicians, not only are they arrogant, they think they know better what to do with my money!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:15 pmPalin when asked by Hannity about the murder of Doctor Tiller had this to say…
“Well I don’t think anyone should be allowed to shoot at a boat, I mean you can loose steering….what>? what? oh oh OH that’s who you are talking about…never mind”
“but we are heading to Socialism”
June 8th, 2009 at 1:15 pmPalin waterboarding Insannity would be a great RNC fundraiser.
Will Hannitea ask her about the $3,000.00 checks she wrote to each Alaskan citizen? Of course not.
Dumb & Dumber doing a Fixed Noise interview is hardly news.
‘We Distort – You Decide’
June 8th, 2009 at 1:15 pmWhat a hypocritical dolt…the government expanded like a bloated elephant when the R’s were at the wheel…and the rieghtwing fear mongering about socialism is getting really old…give it a rest caribou barbie…
June 8th, 2009 at 1:16 pmSarah read that in one of all of her magazines, you betcha.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pmWasn’t it socialism when Sarah mailed out $3000 checks to every person in Alaska?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pmIt’s just bizarre how she doesn’t use subject-nouns or verbs. Those are the basis of language.
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June 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pmI’d be surprised if she could walk and chew gum at the same time.
I think she better worry about the problems she helped create in Alaska, and leave the rest of us alone.
tony and lido
Well…..at least she can always count on a job at the Faux Noise propaganda machine.
In the mean time on behalf of the Democratic party….thanks for all the campaign fundraising help!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:18 pmOh great. Not only is she a dunce but she’s one of those people who likes to say, “I told you so!”.
Ick.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:18 pmAlaska receives $1.84 welfare for every $1.00 it pays in taxes. But hey, no socialism there. And that is on top of the $3300 every man woman and child receive from oil each year. Ms. Palin needs to try reading before opening mouth and inserting foot.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:18 pmHate her all you like, but she’s right 100%. Even most libs these days will admit we are moving fast towards socialism. We will end up like england and france very soon, except 10 times worse because of our massive population.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:21 pmobama loves france, he anticipates being an ex-president so he can spend all his time there.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:22 pmJimmy, explain to us why taking federal money and giving oil royalty checks in alaska is not socialism.
We’ll wait.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:22 pmPALIN: Kind of a ‘we told ya so’.
Yes, you did tell us, and that’s why you and the Party you represented lost and is disintergrating before our eyes. Because the alternative you presented was far, far worse
June 8th, 2009 at 1:23 pm>Even most libs these days will admit
> we are moving fast
>towards socialism
like socialist england? chriist you are dense!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pm“We told ya. Youbetcha. He’s a socialist Muslim pallin around with terrorists. You should have voted for the old guy. Youbetcha. We would take on the blotational effects of the . . .that out of control nature of the governmental spending that . . . gee, whillikers everyone just knows needs reigning in yada yada.”
The Corporate Controlled Media (Minitru) thinks we need a new round of Sarah Palin opinions. Right after our Dick Cheney opinions.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pmToo bad all her interviews couldn’t be on Faux, instead of that “gotcha” media she keeps whining about.
Message to Caribou Barbie: YOU LOST. The American people voted for change. What ever happened to “Country First?” I know it was last year’s slogan, so you might have forgotten it by now, but it resonates so much better that “The sky is falling! Socialism! Caw! (You betcha).”
June 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pmAndrew Wang has a stronger resume then the freedom…
June 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pmsocialism doesn’t work for big populations. you need capitalism to sustain that. growth requires more growth. and conservative principles are the way to do it. groupie ideology doesn’t cut the mustard.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pmJimmy clearly has not had his Maypo yet this morning. He’s babbling.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
And the scary black man is coming for your guns!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:25 pmI had to read that twice, I thought that was Michelle Bachman speaking, then I realized that it was just Sarah Palin parroting the GOP talking points again…Ha! Silly me!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:25 pmPalin seems to have selective memory, it was under Bush that the taxpayers bailed out the banksters, to save the free market, he said.
And the banksters went to the government for that socialist money, why just look at all the lobbyists approaching government for societies money.
Does Palin forget that Stevens was the biggest taker of federal money over the years?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:25 pmFailin’ Palin: “. . . our country could evolve into something that we do not even recognize.”
But there will still be some constants in our lives. For instance, we will always recognize Failin’ Palin and her kinfolk as ignorant little pieces of trailer trash.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:25 pm>obama loves france, he anticipates
> being an ex-president
and you dont anticipate him being an ex-president at some point? do you have any secret fantasies the secret service might need to know about?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:25 pmdbadass eats his own shit.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:25 pmIsnt building a bridge to nowhere a socialist project to create jobs?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:26 pmPlease point to true socialist programs or activities that will actually benefit the citizens of the U.S….please reply…I feel like hearing an answer this time…
June 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pmPalin – just STFU – he is doing EXACTLY what he said he would do, which is what a MAJORITY of people want – why don’t you just go look at Russia from your front porch
June 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pmchocolate jesus – professional victim.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pmWow, what a short bus kitty. When you have to be fed talking points by Sean Hannity as you are being interviewed, something is definitely wrong with you.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pmdoes anybody know if her pill-addled wh0re of a daughter has started being abstinent yet?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pmthe freedom Says:
growth requires more growth. and conservative principles are the way to do it.
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Wrong. Where have you been for the last eight years? Conservative principles are the way to the “culture of corruption” and further class stratification. Nice try – do you care to try again?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pm>chocolate jesus – professional victim.
you didnt finish the equation… Chocolate Jesus – professional victim = ???
June 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pmthe freedom Says: socialism doesn’t work for big populations. you need capitalism to sustain that. growth requires more growth. and conservative principles are the way to do it. groupie ideology doesn’t cut the mustard.
There were only three million jobs created under the Bush admin over an eight year period. Tax cuts did not create jobs and two wars did not keep the economy out of a deep recession.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pmthe government’s job is to keep the dollar strong. we had a strong dollar under the bush years. i want to see a reduction in non-defense spending and an increase to over a trillion for the pentagon and homeland security budgets. our security demands it and that’s the budget people want.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pmAs usual, you are wrong…socialism in one form or another, currently corporate welfare, has sustained capitalism…Please don’t bother to reply…you know the drill…
June 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pmThe real problem here is that this person is being presented as if her opinions have validity, as if she knows what she’s talking about. Hannity won’t correct anything she says, especially if it’s derogatory of Democrats (who he has said he hates) or Liberals in general. In fact, he’ll give her leading questions to get her to say negative things about Hannity’s political enemies. (It was Hannity who brought up the word “Socialism.”)
This is the consequence of the right wing’s efforts to have “balance” in our TV news shows. Now everyone thinks the wing nuts on the right have equally valid viewpoints to the thinking people on the left.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pmDon’t you love this socialism talk? All those old-farts protesting on ‘Tea Bag’ day, and I wonder how many of them are on Social Security.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pmdoes anybody know if her pill-addled wh0re of a daughter has started being abstinent yet?
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way to care about the youth, liberal.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:31 pmGot anything to support that theory, or do we just have to take your word for it?
We’ll wait.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:32 pmIf socialism is so bad why doesn’t Palin return all the money she gets from the government, and I don’t mean just stimulus money but all money?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:33 pm@Jimmy Big Bucks:
I’d like to see you try to support this claim with evidence.
Thanks.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:33 pmI’ll take Obama’s “socialism” any day over the Wingnuttistani — i.e. Bush-Cheney-Huckabee-Palin-Newtered (New Turd?) Gingrich, et al. — version of down-to-earth and honest-to-god (sotospeak) fascism. Too bad there’s not an island somewhere, or even an undiscovered continent, to where we could ship the entire right wing nutbunch: a place where they could do their dumbass thing and stop boring the rest of us with it.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:34 pmExplain why after 8 years of ‘conservative principles’ (oxymoron if ever there was), we are in a RECESSION that knocked on the door of a DEPRESSION (before Obama got in)…oh yessss…growth…Please do not reply, blah, blah, blah..
June 8th, 2009 at 1:34 pmLets not forget that Palin raised taxes on oil increasing the size of Alaskans yearly state checks to the people
June 8th, 2009 at 1:34 pm.Please don’t bother to reply…you know the drill…
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THEN DON’T MAKE THE FIRST MOVE, LIB!!!!!!!!!!
are so insecure with your posts, that you have to demand that people don’t debunk you as to protect your wittle feewings?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:35 pmthe freedom Says:
the government’s job is to keep the dollar strong. we had a strong dollar under the bush years.
Really? From Wiki:
June 8th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
sure, with large populations the same amount of attention can’t be given to a person as would, let’s say, students in a small class. if the professor can’t get around to you because there are 400 students, you need to be more responsible for your own learning. see where i’m getting?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:36 pmPalin is one of the most clueless Repub politicians ever, and that’s saying a lot.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:37 pm“Well, that is where we are headed”– and of course she can see where we’re headed from her front door– unless Russia is blocking her view.
Let’s do away with all social programs… starting with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Since the G-NO-P’s don’t like socialism, let them take care of their elderly family members. It’s Medicare and Medicaid that pay those nursing home bills.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:38 pmWell Jimmy and Freedom, whenever you drive on a highway or check out a book from a library or attend a public school orstate college, you are accepting socialism. There isn’t a family that hasn’t suffered from unregulated capitalism of the last 8 years. But from your comments, it is highly doubtful that you concern yourselves with the good for all mankind .
June 8th, 2009 at 1:38 pmHasn’t she heard from the nice old white guys on the Supreme Court that women should be seen and not heard? If not, I’ll be happy to tell her: Sarah, STFU. Now be a good little Repub filly and go make some moose stew and put on somethin’ purty.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:38 pmI see. You just make sh!t up as you go along.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:38 pmsometimes heavy growth will lead to greater losses. it’s simple economics. if you want to crap all kinds of kids on the planet, you will need growth to sustain them. take this occurrence as a lesson to cut your losses in the future.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:39 pmYou can always tell we they have been played… Silly little ones. Coprophagy a interesting behavior indeed…
June 8th, 2009 at 1:39 pmI assume they ment “going”
June 8th, 2009 at 1:40 pmshoeless, you’ve probably recognized already that the troll to whom you replied is worthless and deserves to be ignored until its inevitable shit-canning by the mods.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:40 pmthe freedom Says: the government’s job is to keep the dollar strong. we had a strong dollar under the bush years.
The government gave that job to the FED in 1913. And really the dollar has lost some 96% of its value since that time.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pmtexaslady – i donate to charity!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
Hate her all you like, but she’s right 100%. Even most libs these days will admit we are moving fast towards socialism.
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Wanna talk socialism?? Who the hell is Palin to make the decision to give Alaska’s citizens an OIL rebate, on what basis did she make this socialistic decision??
June 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pmBy the way conservatism and principles what a contradiction ! There is NOTHING conservative about the bush administration either as a Governor or as the worst President ever. You poor, delusional individual or maybe just in denial. But hey, go back your beliefs with your boots, the recruitment office is always open.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pmSarah, what the conservative men want to know is, is that how you feel? I mean, is that how you feel, deep down inside?
(could we get a wink and a kiss here? … maybe lick your lips?)
So, tell us, Sarah, how do you feel. (Wait a moment… I hear…. I hear…. FRAMPTON!!!!!!……)
Also.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pmYes ralph, I know. I didn’t expect either of them to actually have anything substantial. It’s always fun to see them throwing out wild guesses stated as irrefutable facts.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:42 pmI seriously hope she keeps talking like this, as well as the rest of the GOP, right up until 2012. Then they can spend all of the election cyle yelling about socialism, Ayers, Acorn, Muslims, and Obama’s birth certificate. It worked so well for them last time.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:42 pmto the libs who are concerned about the environment: take a fellow lib, DRxj, who says he has four children. FOUR CHILDREN. he’d doing his part alright to save the environment – NOT!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:43 pmIf Socialism is the European style of living….
6 weeks paid vacation every year, a guaranteed pension for everyone, universal health care for everyone, college education for everyone, less poverty, less crime, and less corporate greed and corruption…..
then what the heck are we waiting for?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:43 pmthe freedom Says:
if you want to crap all kinds of kids on the planet
Oh… like unwed teenage pregnancies? Hows that “abstinence only” workin’ out for the Palins?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:43 pmthe freedom Says: obama loves france, he anticipates being an ex-president so he can spend all his time there.
A little historical note for you. The word conservative was coined by a french guy.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:44 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
shoeless, you’ve probably recognized already that the troll to whom you replied is worthless and deserves to be ignored until its inevitable shit-canning by the mods.
Refraining from feeding the trolls has been working reasonably well lately, but it does take a combined (socialist!) effort. DNFTT.
Especially this nasty little example.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:45 pmthe federal reserve is an important public-private partnership. government needs to be in touch with its funders.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:45 pmthe freedom Says:
To the cons concerned about the dollar: The dollar reached it’s lowest point in HISTORY under Bush! Way to protect the dollar’s value- NOT!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:45 pmPalin-Octomom 2012.
If this is the alternative to socialism, I’m a proud socialist.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:45 pmdelafield Says:
then what the heck are we waiting for?
The conservative fascist regressives to catch up or go away.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:45 pmNowhere. Fast.
I can, however, see what impact that sorry education had on you.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:45 pmAre we really worse off than we were four months ago? Really? I don’t see it that way at all. I see the economic dive into hell starting to slow down, maybe turn around. Most of the economic indicators show that.
Of course, once things do get better earlier than predicted, the wingnuts will claim that had nothing to do with Obama since economic fluctuation magically does whatever it wants regardless of government policy. Or some such rot.
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the freedom Says:
she’s so nice in person, down to earth.
Most people who’ve actually met her say otherwise. She and Todd have been running a campaign of personal destruction using the governor’s office as a bludgeon against their perceived enemies ever since they got there.
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Jimmy Big Bucks Says:
Even most libs these days will admit we are moving fast towards socialism.
… says a Gallup survey taken from a statistical sample of your imagination…
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the freedom Says:
the government’s job is to keep the dollar strong.
It’s interesting how you change that around every few years. Y’all used to sayit was protecting us from military attack and nothing else. Under Bush I it was fighting crime. Now it’s keeping the dollar strong. I think you just make it up in hindsight.
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Xisithrus Says:
Lets not forget that Palin raised taxes on oil increasing the size of Alaskans yearly state checks to the people
That’s the one thing in her job description that she’s actually done well.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:46 pmthe freedom Says: sure, with large populations the same amount of attention can’t be given to a person as would, let’s say, students in a small class. if the professor can’t get around to you because there are 400 students, you need to be more responsible for your own learning. see where i’m getting?
I see where you’re “getting”, skid-mark! You are letting us all know that you were a student in a classroom of 400 and took no responsibility for your own learning.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:47 pmthe freedom Says:
to the libs who are concerned about the environment: take a fellow lib, DRxj, who says he has four children. FOUR CHILDREN. he’d doing his part alright to save the environment – NOT!
>Thank you for doing your part to prevent global warming by holding up your Sarah Palin calendar with one hand.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:48 pmwhat the heck are you waiting for then? Move! None of what you mentioned would work in the USA. And europeans have nothing compared to the average american
June 8th, 2009 at 1:48 pmHmmm… this coming from a woman whose government established the Alaska Permanent Fund to take money from oil companies and spread the wealth to its residents. Hey don’t get me wrong, I think that’s great, but then she should be railing against that as well … somehow I don’t think that’s politically feasible for her. Oh well I guess she’s just a plain old hypocrite.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:48 pmthe freedom Says:
the federal reserve is an important public-private partnership. government needs to be in touch with its funders
Its a rip off that leaves the non-investors [taxpayers] holding about 90% of the loss. Its a scam.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:49 pmSince when is having stuff a legitimate measure of achievement, contentment, and quality of life? I suppose it may be for the shallow but even that seems a bit hard to believe
June 8th, 2009 at 1:49 pmThe Europeans have more social mobility than we do.
Here, we just have dumb hicks repeating what the aristocracy told them so they can keep us subsidizing the lifestyles of the rich.
Which is the superior system? I guess it depends on who you are and what you care about. If you think hard work should be punished and Americans don’t matter, you’re a conservative.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:49 pmIf this is the alternative to socialism, I’m a proud socialist.
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why … you … little … PUNY SNOT!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:50 pmgovernment needs to be in touch with its funders
A scam, it was never intended in the constitution that a private central bank would lend money, the peoples currency, into existence with interest. This is basically a copy of the British oligarchial system
June 8th, 2009 at 1:50 pm>way to care about the youth, liberal.
whose “the youth”? bristol palin is a promiscious, unmarried, pill addled wh0re and I have no problems calling her out on her and her families stunning hipocracy as being an unwed teenage mother whose supposedly discovered abstinence…..I have ZERO doubt that had she miscarried before her pregnancy was publicly known about, she’d still being doing this exact same absintence thing, except this time claiming she was as pure as the driven snow.
anyone that thinks little miss P had suddenly been cured of whatever “demons” led her to ride the baloney pony is kidding themselves..
that whole family is a broiling ball of hipocracy and she is no exception. I’m not going to say anything about Palins younger children but miss Bristol is consciously becoming a spokeswoman for her mothers kooky ideas so she deserves as much scrutiny as any other public figure would get..
June 8th, 2009 at 1:51 pmda freedom is amusing . . . I have a feeling mom makes his/her PPJ and send him/her to the basement to keep him/her out of the way . . . too bad he/she doesn’t use that “socialist thing” we call libraries and “school” . . . . and isn’t taking money from big business and re-distributing to the people while accepting more government funds than you contribute called “socialism” . . . the Alaskan Economic Model – redistribute oil wealth and live off Fed funds . . . ya betcha . . . .
June 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pmThe ‘freedom’ is actually talking about debt peonage, hes cheerleading for it…
June 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pmthe freedom Says
June 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
socialism doesn’t work for big populations. you need capitalism to sustain that. growth requires more growth. and conservative principles are the way to do it. groupie ideology doesn’t cut the mustard.
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One of the things I noticed about the Sarah Palin interview is that while she had plenty of criticism for the way President Obama is handling the economic recovery, she had no ideas of her own.
You at least are offering something, even if it’s just “conservative principles”. But it’s “conservative principles” — deregulation, tax cuts, corporate welfare, etc. — that got us into this mess. How in the world do you expect to convince anybody that staying on that road will improve the economy? That’s like a 17th-century British physician trying to convince a patient that continued bloodletting will cure her anemia — a condition most likely caused by the bloodletting in the first place.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:54 pmdbadass Says:
Since when is having stuff a legitimate measure of achievement, contentment, and quality of life? I suppose it may be for the shallow but even that seems a bit hard to believe
Besides which, much of Western Europe actually has a higher standard of living than the US. Funny thing, isn’t it?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pmwhat the heck are you waiting for then? Move! None of what you mentioned would work in the USA. And europeans have nothing compared to the average american
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that’s what i’m saying! “move b-tch, move!”
June 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pmSpeaking of the Anglo-American economic system, it’s certainly no coincidence that the two nations still championing phony lassez faire economics as a cover for exploitation are also the two worst developed nations for children.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pmPalin’s behavior goes beyond b!tch… so much it should even frighten the party of NO. Nothing at all professional about this women.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pmWhy do you think Americans are dumber than Europeans?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:56 pmBecause he only has himself as an example.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:57 pmthe freedom Says
June 8th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
why … you … little … PUNY SNOT!
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Mature comeback, freedom. Does this mean you have no intelligent rebuttal worth reading?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:57 pmthe freedom Says: what the heck are you waiting for then? Move! None of what you mentioned would work in the USA.
Where in the constitution does it talk about empire? You move.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:59 pmSo, in terms of healthcare, social mobility, and general standards of living, the conservative system is an utter failure.
Why are conservatives so big on being losers? Now that it’s costing them at the polls, you’d think they’d be interested in new ideas that actually work. Instead, they’re talking about boycotting GM.
It’s all about ideology for them. They have no successes to show for their bogus economics.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:59 pmNah,nah,nah booboo says Scarah Palin, sounds to me like sour grapes! Hell hath no fury like a beauty queen denied.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:03 pmtake a fellow lib, DRxj, who says he has four children. FOUR CHILDREN. he’d doing his part alright to save the environment – NOT!
Um, he’s having the allotted offspring that my partner and I are not…so, it’s a wash.
Now, back on topic…
June 8th, 2009 at 2:03 pmOh, missmolly… might as well ask “does this mean that summer follows spring?”
June 8th, 2009 at 2:04 pmSounds like you speak from a long, dillusional, extremely painful history of multiple personality disorder–or, in this case ‘conservate ideology’, imprisoned by self-hatred and narcissism…please do not reply, this does not mean I want to talk to you…
June 8th, 2009 at 2:06 pmMature comeback, freedom. Does this mean you have no intelligent rebuttal worth reading?
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June 8th, 2009 at 2:06 pmWhat about that coprophagy one? Oh that’s right you already tried that twice with no result…
P.S. You are flagged…please do not reply, this does not mean I want to talk to you…
June 8th, 2009 at 2:07 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
then what the heck are we waiting for? what the heck are you waiting for then? Move!
Why should we move?? You’re the one who’s so unhappy here. May I suggest Australia? There’s a town there that has giant tarantulas that can kill a dog with a single bite. I’m sure you’d be right at home there. G’day, mate!
June 8th, 2009 at 2:07 pmthe freedom Says:
sure, with large populations the same amount of attention can’t be given to a person as would, let’s say, students in a small class. if the professor can’t get around to you because there are 400 students, you need to be more responsible for your own learning. see where i’m getting?
An inability to understand the impact of policy on statistical populations? In the individual case that is true. But if you want overall educational outcomes to improve, you have to improve how it’s handled instead of just lecturing people to do better.
Wingnuts can’t do math.
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Jimmy Big Bucks Says:
And europeans have nothing compared to the average american
Really? Any evidence of what a hellhole Europe is? Nope. Just another imaginary reference.
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Vincennes Says:
Hmmm… this coming from a woman whose government established the Alaska Permanent Fund to take money from oil companies and spread the wealth to its residents.
I’m pretty sure they’ve been doing that since the 70s.
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the freedom Says:
why … you … little … PUNY SNOT!
Ha ha, you suck.
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Chocolate Jesus Says:
whose “the youth”? bristol palin is a promiscious, unmarried, pill addled wh0re
Knock it off. You’re sounding like a complete stupid ass. Bristol Palin isn’t independently pushing wingnut propaganda. Sure, she was used by the McCain campaign, but that’s not her fault either.
Leave being an unneccessary dick to the other side. We’re supposed to be better than them.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:08 pm*sigh* says the women who runs the most socialist state in this country. I feel bad for the people of Alaska seriously. Anyone want to point and laugh with me when she looses her office? :D
June 8th, 2009 at 2:09 pmDueling nit wits. I won’t waste the electricity.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pmYowza.
I’m being attacked on a thread that I’ve not even participated in.
That’s pretty darn cool!!!
I must have made quite an impression on feedumb.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pmUnless, of course, it’s a stalker who follows every post I make.
That’s just creepy.
PALIN/LIMBAUGH 2012!
June 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pmHey freedom boy, since you ran away like the young republican coward that you are from the Palwenty thread when I asked you why you aren’t over in Iraq fighting for our freedoms, I’ll ask you here: Why aren’t you in the military serving our country. You had no problem calling other members of your generation lazy, yet here you are soaking up the freedom they are willing to fight and die for. Are you a coward or a leech?
June 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pm>Bristol Palin isn’t independently pushing wingnut propaganda
being a newly minted “spokesperson for abstinence” isnt pushing wingnut propganda?
> Sure, she was used by the McCain campaign, but that’s not >her fault either.
whatever you say dude..exactly what age is the age that personal responsibility kicks in again? we put people in jail who are younger than bristol for the stupid things they’ve done..but yet somehow shes not resonsible for becoming a spokesperson for wingnut propganda?
June 8th, 2009 at 2:13 pmFor most informed students of economics, it is normal for jobs to be the last sector to recover from a recession.
Let’s all remember who created this recession.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:13 pmNo quarter.
the freedom Says:
to the libs who are concerned about the environment: take a fellow lib, DRxj, who says he has four children. FOUR CHILDREN. he’d doing his part alright to save the environment – NOT!
Ummmm… How many kids does Sarah Palin have?
June 8th, 2009 at 2:15 pmUmmm, Bill Clinton?
June 8th, 2009 at 2:15 pmUnemployment rate rises but pace of job losses slows.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:15 pmWhy or why does anyone other than the eco chamber care what this idiot woman has to say. Yes, you lost baby – deal with it !
He a suggestion “Sarah & Liz 2012″, the republicans worst nightmare !
June 8th, 2009 at 2:17 pmthe freedom is just one more phoney republican patriot. He is all for his generation fighting and dying for bush’s lies in Iraq and Afghanistan, as long he doesn’t have to go. He’s has a bright future in the republican party…
June 8th, 2009 at 2:18 pmWith the republican party imploding and in total disarray we can expect to see the MSM give controversial right wing whack jobs like Palin, Bachmann, Limbaugh, Coultier and Gingrich more air time to spew their lies and distorted truths.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:21 pmIs it just me or does she look a lot like peggy hill, right down to the glasses?
June 8th, 2009 at 2:22 pmwatchdog…
June 8th, 2009 at 2:24 pmplease explain how the repealing of sections of the Glass-Steagall Act by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act affected the current market destabilization and housing/credit crisis… thanks.
Wrong. It was Phil Gramm’s Financial Modernization Act which gutted Glass Steagall that allowed the banks to play their Ponzi scheme.
But thanks for playing. You can collect an unemployment check as you consolation prize.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:24 pmIt’s the red menace!
June 8th, 2009 at 2:25 pmAlthough it may have been President Clinton who signed off on the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act Of 1999 which replaced the Glass-Steagall Act.
We must not forget that it was republicans like former republican senator Phil Gramm and other republicans who pushed hard for the bill, along with the Future Commodities Modernization Act of 2000. Both of which ARE directly related to the mess we are in today.
Question: Why hasn’t any politician from either side of the aisle ever brought up repealing the two bills mentioned above and reinstating the Glass-Steagall Act?
June 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pmSenator Bernie Sanders talks about it all the time, but nobody listens to him.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:29 pmI wonder how come she didn’t ask Manatee when the waterboarding was scheduled?
June 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pmPeggy Hill would do a better job…even though she’s a cartoon…the real person is the joke…
June 8th, 2009 at 2:32 pmWell, um, I was trying to bring out a reference to the ungodly amount of treasure we piss away in Iraq….But yeah, Clinton was a corporatist in his own right.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:33 pmChocolate Jesus Says:
>Bristol Palin isn’t independently pushing wingnut propaganda
being a newly minted “spokesperson for abstinence” isnt pushing wingnut propganda?
Nope. In fact, she wasn’t put forth by the right as a spokesperson for abstinence – obviously. That was a joke we were cracking; you weren’t supposed to take it seriously. When interviewed on it she also stated that abstinence is unworkable.
There’s a difference between being cynically used by the R’s (as Bristol Palin was) and actively playing cheerleader for them (as Liz Cheney does).
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Chocolate Jesus Says:
whatever you say dude..exactly what age is the age that personal responsibility kicks in again? we put people in jail who are younger than bristol for the stupid things they’ve done..but yet somehow shes not resonsible for becoming a spokesperson for wingnut propganda?
Anti-abortion poster child maybe, at most. But regardless of what we think of her, Sarah Palin is her mom. Her mom got nominated to the Veep position on a major ticket. Was she not supposed to show up and support her? I don’t know what your relationship is with your parents, but most people would be excited and supportive about something like that.
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Uncle Fester Lurks Says:
Question: Why hasn’t any politician from either side of the aisle ever brought up repealing the two bills mentioned above and reinstating the Glass-Steagall Act?
At this point, I think it would best be handled with new legislation that closes the loopholes while addressing the realities of financial markets as they exist today. Obama talked about that during his campaign. They’ve got a lot to do, but that should be in the pipeline.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pmSenator Byron Dorgan warned us about the Financial Modernization Act in 1999. (Future Commodities Modernization Act?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nZbo8SKbg
June 8th, 2009 at 2:36 pmWatch as watchdog’s head explode with such a request…
June 8th, 2009 at 2:38 pmIs “the freedom” related to KKKarl’s “the math”?
Is Jimmy Big Bucks the fellow that Larry Craig was looking for at the airport?
Was watchdog employed by the Bush administration in an oversight position at DoJ?
The noise coming from the right reminds me of a sinking ship blasting it’s horn calling for help. I wonder who will be the last person screeching for help just before the republiscum party disappears completely? The smart rats have abandoned the ship already.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:38 pmshoeless Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 2:41 pmSenator Bernie Sanders talks about it all the time, but nobody listens to him.
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Bernie Sanders rocks! He is our most patriotic senator and he is a socialist…gasp! If the democrats would listen to him we’d be a better country but banking and corporate puppets like Harry Reid, Chris Dodd and Chuck Schumer will never give him the time of day.
> Was she not supposed to show up and support her?
Uhm come on bro are you intentionally acting dumb or what? Becoming a spokesperson for a fake cause to further your mothers political ambitions is not just “showing up and supporting her”. Becoming an alleged “spokesperson for abstinence” is alot more than just showing up to events and smiling. Bristol has, even after the election, continued to actively campaign for her moms kooky causes. By your argument we cant critcize Lynn Cheney or Newt Gingritch’s daughter because they are just “supporting daddy”….I supersize with your desire to be “decent” or whatever but lets realize the people we’re talking about..theses guys have no rules, morals, or compunction against using anything they can as a weapon..if we dont do the same I dont think we can beat them in any long term fashion..
June 8th, 2009 at 2:44 pmQuick, Sarah…what’s “socialism” mean?
June 8th, 2009 at 2:44 pmI nominate this for the best Palinese (from the interview transcript over at Drudge Report):
Tina Fey, we have some more material for you. Please plan to come back to SNL.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:47 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
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Hate her all you like, but she’s right 100%
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I would venture to guess that you wouldn’t know socialism if it hit you between the eyes. Ever hear of Social Security, Medicare, Veterans Benefits, etc.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:47 pmSocialism beats the hell out of raygunomics allowing the top one percent to steal all the money from the rest of us. Get a life and quit watching Faux and listening to those drop outs on radio. You are getting dumber by the day.
Look, if nothing else, it’s good to see that watchpup recognizes that deregulation is the cause of our current economic crisis.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:56 pmOjore Says:
Quick, Sarah…what’s “socialism” mean?
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“when you pick out your wardrobe
and somebody else pays for them.”
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pmDear Sarah,
STFU.
PLTHXBY
June 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pmkasinca
Do you have any idea just how socialist those programs are that you listed? do you realise that they were put in place by liberals and will effectively give our country a 20 billion a year deficit by the year 2030 if not reigned in soon? Do you even know what socialism is? taking of value from one person to give to another to make them feel “fair.”
Let her give money to her citizens from the oil business, the money is being earned through tearing up THEIR state. they aren’t taking oil money from texas and giving it to alaska. Liberals seriously need to figure out how government works before trying to blog……
June 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pmSo now you’re PROABORTION even when somebody wants the baby?
June 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pmSo that leads you to have to ask who is really going to own our car industry than in America.”
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
June 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pmeuphsoc, why does Alaska get twice as much money back as they pay in to the federal government, more than any other state? If they can give money to their residents why are they taking our money?
June 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pmeuphsoc Says:
I only drive on roads I build myself.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pmWe told you so – Palin is stupid.
Same meme….
June 8th, 2009 at 3:21 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
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euphsoc, why does Alaska get twice as much money back as they pay in to the federal government, more than any other state? If they can give money to their residents why are they taking our money?
Why dont you go ask the federal tax code, i didn’t write it. perhaps they have fewer dependants to claim, and therefore pay in a lot more with each paycheck, and then get a lot more back… that is how the taxes work. once again, try to learn how the government works before typing
RUCeriousMaggot! Says:
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euphsoc Says:
I only drive on roads I build myself.
I dont know what the heck this guy has been smoking, but i definitely never wrote anything about roads, and he obvious has no legitimate response to my statements, Basically the life story of a modern-day Liberal. spews nonsense and tries to put words in the mouths of others because he definitely needs help to look intelligent
June 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pmListen, her knowledge of socialism is limited to: “it’s like when everybody works together for the good of everybody…or somethin’
Continue to take her to task when the oppty arises and she’ll continue to prove to be vapid Miss Alaska.
Turn for the judges
June 8th, 2009 at 3:24 pmeuphsoc – by any chance do you call yourself an Independent?
June 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pmThe government helping critical failing companies amounts to-
2 tenths of 1 percent of our economy
does not amount to socialism….cons are so misleading.
Who paid for the construction of you house, Shara?
June 8th, 2009 at 3:36 pmJust once I would like to see an interviewer ask Palin or someone of her ilk to explain what they think Socialism is and how the things that President Obama is trying to do can be described as socialist.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:37 pmshoeless Says:
Wasn’t it socialism when Sarah mailed out $3000 checks to every person in Alaska?
Absolutely it was. Especially the $1,200 extra they got because she extorted it out of the gas companies.
Really, why doesn’t some interviewer ask her how the yearly stipend the citizens of Alaska gets isn’t socialism. That won’t happen because she will only be interviewed by right wingers and probably has all questions pre-approved.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:41 pmI would call myself a conservative independent. I tend to agree with conservatives, but always give both sides a fair shake. currently highly conservative due to the fact that i hate hearing so much about this “change” that was promised. the only “change” that has occurred is the ballooning of our national debt from 450 billion a year under Bush to nearly 2 trillion a year under Obama for the next few years (which obama himself has even promised us will happen) just wait for the universal healthcare reform, lets just balloon it up to 5 trillion a year now when we are at our weakest economically.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:42 pmeuphsoc Says:
Why dont you go ask the federal tax code, i didn’t write it. perhaps they have fewer dependants to claim, and therefore pay in a lot more with each paycheck, and then get a lot more back… that is how the taxes work. once again, try to learn how the government works before typing
Wow, your reading comprehension skills are pretty minimal, aren’t they. What you were told is that the people in Alaska pay $1.00 in taxes and they get back $1.90 in Federal money for their state.
So why is it OK for this to happen when every citizen in Alaska is given over $2,000 yearly as their part of the oil revenues. As a fiscal conservative, don’t you think that $2,000 should go into the state’s coffers and be used to support the state government?
Because Sarah Palin gave each citizen an extra $1,200 last year instead of putting that money away for a rainy day, the State of Alaska is now broke and having to cut spending to schools and other services.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:46 pmthe freedom Says:
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to the libs who are concerned about the environment: take a fellow lib, DRxj, who says he has four children. FOUR CHILDREN. he’d doing his part alright to save the environment – NOT!
You are a big-a@@ hypocrite! You have a big nerve attacking anyone for the number of kids that they have, and besides, isn’t the party of NO against abortion? Don’t you all say, let them ALL live whether their lives or the lives of the mothers are in peril and they have little/no chance of survival outside the womb? Choose a side. You cannot have it both ways. Your comment shows you are not a true conservative at all. You tick me off when you bring innocent kids into the discussion and then state that someone is not concerned about the environment based on the number of kids they have! You are a prime example of what is wrong with the Republican/conservative party. Personally, I wish no one would have an abortion, but I also leave the decision up to the individual. Furthermore, I think that the number of kids one has is a personal decision, which brings me to the next problem conservatives have that highlights their hypocrisy. Why say that you believe in limited government and freedom, and then turn around and in the same breath say the government has the right to tell a woman, or anyone, what to do with their bodies, who they may marry, what they can think and say, etc., all while wrapped in the Bible and the U.S. and Christian flags? And since most conservatives say they are Christians, have you ever stopped long enough to ask yourself one question, “Will God put up with my sh!t and the combined sh!t of my fellow conservatives in Heaven?” The next time you attend church pay more attention to the message being delivered and less on who sees that you are present and accounted for. In the former situation there’s an opportunity for growth, but in the latter you have a straight one-way ticket for a visit with Mephistopheles.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pmBuckie Boy Says:
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The government helping critical failing companies amounts to-
2 tenths of 1 percent of our economy
does not amount to socialism….cons are so misleading.
Who paid for the construction of you house, Shara?
Buckie Boy, you think too highly of our economy, our GDP (measure of economy’s strength) is only about 3.2 trillion/year… divide that by the 768 billion that he ran through in a week, and you get roughly 4.1 percent…. much higher than .20%
June 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pmeuphsoc Says:
I would call myself a conservative independent. I tend to agree with conservatives, but always give both sides a fair shake. currently highly conservative due to the fact that i hate hearing so much about this “change” that was promised. the only “change” that has occurred is the ballooning of our national debt from 450 billion a year under Bush to nearly 2 trillion a year under Obama for the next few years (which obama himself has even promised us will happen) just wait for the universal healthcare reform, lets just balloon it up to 5 trillion a year now when we are at our weakest economically.
Wow, how old are you? I’m thinking maybe 12. Our national debt was $5 trillion before Bush took office and was $10.5 trillion when he left. He more than doubled our national debt. Were you complaining about that?
Then Bush took a budget surplus and turned it into a huge budget deficit. And the sad thing is that none of the money he spent went into making our country better.
That’s why I don’t mind the fact that Obama’s plans are increasing the national deficit. He is investing in this country and undoing some of the damage Bush and the right did to our country.
BTW, moron, did you know that if all Corporations paid their fair share of taxes (66% pay no taxes) and all rich people paid their fair share of taxes (over 50% have money stashed in off-shore accounts), we could balance our budget and pay off our national debt in just a couple of years. And that’s what President Obama is working towards, making everyone pay their fair share of taxes so that we are not balancing our budgets strictly off the back of the middle class.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pmeuphsoc Says:
Buckie Boy, you think too highly of our economy, our GDP (measure of economy’s strength) is only about 3.2 trillion/year… divide that by the 768 billion that he ran through in a week, and you get roughly 4.1 percent…. much higher than .20%
This being said by someone who doesn’t know the difference between our national debt and our national deficit.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:53 pmYeah, it sounds like you really believe you “give both sides a fair shake”.
I guess that’s about as much as we can expect from a “conservative independent”.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:53 pmhe obvious has no legitimate response to my statements
you assume you have a ligitimate statement…
June 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins,
My response would appropriately be to ask for your source for such statistics. I am seeing a lot of numbers, but why should i address them if they have no source. the majority of statistics are made up on the spot in order to support the position of the person speaking. Show me the source and i will then further address your question
June 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pmeuphsoc Says:
Do you even know what socialism is? taking of value from one person to give to another to make them feel “fair.”
Please show us where you got the definition of socialism as taking value from one person to give to another to make them feel fair. I’m betting you won’t be able to do so.
BTW, what did you think about Bush/Paulson giving billions of our taxpayer money to wall street with no requirements on how they spend the money? Wouldn’t you call that socialism (by your definition).
June 8th, 2009 at 3:56 pmeuphsoc Says:
Bilbo Hussein Baggins,
My response would appropriately be to ask for your source for such statistics. I am seeing a lot of numbers, but why should i address them if they have no source. the majority of statistics are made up on the spot in order to support the position of the person speaking. Show me the source and i will then further address your question
http://forums.contracostatimes.com/topic/gao-reports-most-american-corporations-pay-no-tax
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2006-09-13-tax-shelter-usat_x.htm
Ok, now it’s your turn to provide sources for the numbers you have been throwing around.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:58 pmBilbo, you should know that “conservative independents” generally describe a top marginal tax rate of 36% as “free market capitalism” and a top marginal tax rate of 39% “socialism”.
Somewhere in that three percent is the ’sweet spot” where economies flip the switch and Evil takes over dontcha know.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:59 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Bilbo, you should know that “conservative independents” generally describe a top marginal tax rate of 36% as “free market capitalism” and a top marginal tax rate of 39% “socialism”.
Somewhere in that three percent is the ’sweet spot” where economies flip the switch and Evil takes over dontcha know.
You know, I would be more than happy to have the top rate at 36% as long as the people who owe this tax actually pay it. Unfortunately many corporations and rich people stash their money in off-shore tax shelters to avoid having to pay their fair share of taxes.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:01 pmBilbo, i made a very simple statement showing the math pointing out how the previous person was incorrect in their statement. you responded with an insult rather than addressing my statement.
That destroys any chance of you carrying any credibility.
and by the way. your next one where you point out my “giving everyone a fair shake” was explained in the same post that you copy and pasted out of, i am independent, but i am highly conservative at the moment because of the junk liberals are doing. i never said i was independent and hate what obama is doing, i hate how he is doing it. another example of current liberals only showing what they want people to see. Conservatives have made their share of mistakes as well, but i am intelligent enough to see that Democrats controlled congress for the last 2 years of Bush. one simple vote and the war is over…no more crying about that money being wasted. a couple other little votes and they could have undone any of this stuff you blame bush for BEFORE it got this bad. They did nothing…..
June 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pmBilbo…………………….. i ask you to provide sources for numbers… and you give me links to a couple of forum pages and a Highly one sided newspaper article. I was kind of hoping for maybe an official document from perhaps the IRS showing actually statisics rather than more opinions from others who are obviously one-sided
June 8th, 2009 at 4:05 pmOjore Says
June 8th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Quick, Sarah…what’s “socialism” mean?
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The correct definition, of course (at least in the context the GOP is using it), is “a scary word that tested well in focus groups”.
But I’m not even sure Palin is savvy enough to know THAT. She just knows what she gets in the talking points script.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:07 pmeuphsoc Says:
currently highly conservative due to the fact that i hate hearing so much about this “change” that was promised.
Change, ah yes. Change is much needed after 8 years of Bush/Cheney.
Well, at least we’re not going around trying to pick fights with everyone nowadays.
At least the money that’s being spent is being invested in this country for the most part.
At least we have a President now that I can actually stand to watch and hear speak.
At least Cheney doesn’t have his hand hovering over the big red button…well I hope he doesn’t anyway.
Can’t you come up with anything good that’s changed since Obama took office?
McCain was same old, same old/doom and gloom and I suspect things would be much worse if Obama had not been elected.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:10 pmeuphsoc Says
June 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
“…i am intelligent enough to see that Democrats controlled congress for the last 2 years of Bush. one simple vote and the war is over…no more crying about that money being wasted.”
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You’re kidding…right? “One simple vote and the war is over”??? If only it could be so.
The Democrats tried that. Bush vetoed. Because the Democrats’ “control” of congress was only due to a technical razor-thin majority, they didn’t have enough votes to override. Remember that?
June 8th, 2009 at 4:12 pmThe tax whining wing of the independents or the pot smoking wing?
June 8th, 2009 at 4:13 pmthat Democrats controlled congress for the last 2 years of Bush.
Yeah, they had a veto proof Congress….Oh, wait…
June 8th, 2009 at 4:13 pmSocialism
So”cial*ism\, n. [Cf. F. socialisme.] A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of society, with a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor. In popular usage, the term is often employed to indicate any lawless, revolutionary social scheme. See Communism, Fourierism, Saint-Simonianism, forms of socialism
June 8th, 2009 at 4:13 pmChocolate Jesus Says:
Becoming an alleged “spokesperson for abstinence” is alot more than just showing up to events and smiling.
Cite that. She was not actually a spokesperson for abstinence.
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Chocolate Jesus Says:
By your argument we cant critcize Lynn Cheney or Newt Gingritch’s daughter because they are just “supporting daddy”
I explicitly contrasted Bristol Palin with Liz Cheney as an example of someone who actually does spew wingnut propoganda for her daddy. There’s no slippery slope here.
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Chocolate Jesus Says:
theses guys have no rules, morals, or compunction against using anything they can as a weapon..if we dont do the same I dont think we can beat them in any long term fashion..
Of all people, I’m entirely for hitting them as hard as possible and never letting up. But you also need to make sure you have actual logical ammo before you pull the trigger. Fighting as hard as they do does not necessitate also fighting as stupid as they do.
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euphsoc Says:
Why dont you go ask the federal tax code, i didn’t write it. perhaps they have fewer dependants to claim, and therefore pay in a lot more with each paycheck, and then get a lot more back… that is how the taxes work.
Don’t lecture us on how taxes work, wingnut. The reason that Alaska sucks up more federal dollars than it makes is because more infrastructure is required, and the infrastructure is a lot more expensive, in a state with such extreme geographic and climatological conditions. In order for Alaskans to live where they do in the manner that they’d like, the rest of us have to pony up quite a lot.
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euphsoc Says:
I dont know what the heck this guy has been smoking, but i definitely never wrote anything about roads
If you don’t believe in paying your taxes, then you must believe in the magical road fairy.
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Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Just once I would like to see an interviewer ask Palin or someone of her ilk to explain what they think Socialism is and how the things that President Obama is trying to do can be described as socialist.
Cue the word-salad-shooter! “Socialism against American with the communists and the taxes and what with the mommy government and the abortions and so not what we believe in as real Americans, you betcha.”
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euphsoc Says:
I would call myself a conservative independent. I tend to agree with conservatives, but always give both sides a fair shake.
Translation: “I tend to present myself as someone who doesn’t have a bias, but who has rather reached his conclusions through actual logic and facts, in order to sucker other people into agreeing with me when I go total wingnut on their unsuspecting ass.”
June 8th, 2009 at 4:14 pmThat would make Reaganomics the much more efficient spread of misery, eh, Tracist?
June 8th, 2009 at 4:15 pmwith a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor.
justice and equity are things (*cough*) independents just can’t stand.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pmi seem to not remember them voting to end the war. perhaps you could link me a website to show the voting statistics as well as the date on which it was vetoed, since you are so sure it happened. not saying it didnt, just wanting you to back up what you are saying
June 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pmWow, so many have resorting to primitive insults of the opposing views rather than discussing what was said. why is that?
June 8th, 2009 at 4:19 pmThose scandanavians are some real “lawless” mother f uckers no doubt…
June 8th, 2009 at 4:23 pmI see you are a less astute observer of politics than you like to present yourself.
or perhaps you’re simply content to exploit a complex military and geopolitical briar patch into which our former president jumped headlong, in order to paint the opposition as somehow hypocritical (am I reading that right?) because the new president and the Congress have not extricated our armed forces from said briar patch within five months of taking office.
Either way, another potential meaningful opposition voice here crumbles under the weight of right-wing preconceptions. Always sad to see.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pmI seem to remember Bush saying that if they voted to end it, he’d veto it… So why would they waste their time voting something just for him to veto it.?
June 8th, 2009 at 4:26 pmPerhaps because those opposing views are so ill-formed and unconvincingly expressed that they invite nothing more than ridicule?
Just a thought.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:26 pmeuphsoc Says
June 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
i seem to not remember them voting to end the war. perhaps you could link me a website to show the voting statistics as well as the date on which it was vetoed, since you are so sure it happened. not saying it didnt, just wanting you to back up what you are saying
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Here ya go:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18412464/
June 8th, 2009 at 4:30 pmeuphsoc Says
June 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
i seem to not remember them voting to end the war. perhaps you could link me a website to show the voting statistics as well as the date on which it was vetoed, since you are so sure it happened. not saying it didnt, just wanting you to back up what you are saying
June 8th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
I just can’t help but compare our newest intellectroll to Hedley Lamarr.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:34 pmTo quote Mr. Taggart, Gal-darnit, Mr. euphsoc , you use your tongue prettier than a 20-dollar whore.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
my links won’t “link”, sorry:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9946792
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Congressional_actions_to_end_the_Iraq_War_in_the_110th_Congress
June 8th, 2009 at 4:36 pmElBruce – I love you man but I think you’re being a bit hard on our Chocolate Jesus, whom I would rather hadn’t used the word “wh0re”, but…..
Bristol Palin — Sarah Palin’s 19-year-old-daughter and unwed mother of 4-month-old Tripp — has been blog-blistered this week for her debut as an Abstinence Ambassador for the Candies Foundation. She made the rounds of the morning shows, appeared at a town hall meeting for National Teen Pregnancy Awareness Day and declared herself committed to discouraging behavior that would leave other girls in the same predicament she finds herself in. “Regardless of what I did personally,” she told Chris Cuomo on Good Morning America, “abstinence is the only … 100% foolproof way you can prevent pregnancy.”
May 8, 2009 Time
June 8th, 2009 at 4:48 pmeuphsoc Says:
i seem to not remember them voting to end the war.
One doesn’t “vote to end a war.” That’s not how it works. The way it works is to craft and implement a responsible exit strategy, which is what Obama is doing. Ideally, the President who started the war should have an exit strategy figured out before going in at all. Unfortunately, we have in the past made the mistake of occasionally electing Republicans to high office.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:50 pmTracy__5 Says:
“Socialism beats the hell out of raygunomics allowing the top one percent to steal all the money from the rest of us.”
Socialism is the equal spread of misery.
I find that interesting because the countries that lean towards socialism like Sweden, Finland, et al, are the countries that are the most prosperous and where the citizens are the happiest.
So Tracy – what do you think about all those corporations who pay no income taxes and the rich who hide their money in off-shore tax havens. Don’t you think that they should pay their fair share of taxes?
June 8th, 2009 at 5:04 pmeuphsoc Says:
Bilbo…………………….. i ask you to provide sources for numbers… and you give me links to a couple of forum pages and a Highly one sided newspaper article. I was kind of hoping for maybe an official document from perhaps the IRS showing actually statisics rather than more opinions from others who are obviously one-sided
Oh for gods sake. Choose one of the links that is to an organization you agree with. You shouldn’t have a problem since there are 43,000,000 links.
Or this one, there are only 201,000 hits on it though:
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=rich+hiding+money+in+tax+shelters&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=corporations+paying+no+taxes&aq=0&oq=corporations+paying+no+
June 8th, 2009 at 5:08 pmeuphsoc Says:
So”cial*ism\, n. [Cf. F. socialisme.] A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of society, with a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor.
Your point? Would you prefer to have the already well-off getting more and more of the property while the less well-off are working harder and harder to get by?
June 8th, 2009 at 5:09 pmOr perhaps you will believe this one. It’s from the GAO:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08957.pdf
June 8th, 2009 at 5:12 pm“We told ya so”
June 8th, 2009 at 5:16 pmPalin– you never EVER told us anything based in fact or honesty. Everything you ever spewed was dishonest, twisted, a smear, a hate-filled racist comment, or a blatant lie. Or– most often– a stupid, ignorant comment because you have never educated yourself. You are probably the most ignorant Repub in a long time — and that is really saying something. Become informed. Learn something about your country– its history, its geography, its people. You are clueless and it shows every time you speak, except to your ignorant, ill-informed base. How sad. And let’s not even get into your whiney, grating, dishonest voice.
euphsoc Says
June 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
“…i am intelligent enough to see that Democrats controlled congress for the last 2 years of Bush. one simple vote and the war is over…no more crying about that money being wasted.”
You seem to be forgetting that the Republics filibustered anything that the Democrats tried to do and the fact that Bush was still President and would have vetoed anything the Democrats got through. The Republics filibustered more legislation in the last two years of Bush’s presidency than in all of the remainder of his presidency.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:17 pmRUCeriousMaggot! Says:
I just can’t help but compare our newest intellectroll to Hedley Lamarr.
To quote Mr. Taggart, Gal-darnit, Mr. euphsoc , you use your tongue prettier than a 20-dollar whore.
You are calling this latest troll “intellectual”. Wow, you are being awful generous. It appears to me to be as big a moron as all the other trolls that hang around here. It uses the same troll techniques of where we have to prove what we say but they don’t. Why is it that they do that?
June 8th, 2009 at 5:18 pmBilbo, I was using that term as I think the troll is trying to sound/act/be an intellect. More fluff than stuff…
June 8th, 2009 at 5:32 pmTracist completely missed my point. Big surprise.
Perhaps I’ll dumb it down for him next time. Right now I got things to do.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:59 pmWhy do politicos and media elite feel that they have the understanding and the authority to dilute ultra-complex economics into a game of cat and mouse? There are teams of incredibly educated people acting on economic principles that have been tested in the past. Yes we are forging new ground, but never before has the WORLD’s economy depended on it. Obama is not out to socialize, he’s out to stabilize. GM and etc will return to private ownership.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:03 pmIf socialism means rich dudes cannot buy legislation that only benefits them, I am for it.
FDR found out you need to cut spending(?) during a depression. Well maybe not.
Someone needs to remind this moron that not every American is getting ready to close a book deal for millions. To the contrary millions are losing their jobs. Many of these Americans could certainly write a better one that actually contains useful and decipherable information.
June 8th, 2009 at 6:36 pmWhy when someone mentions socialism, if they’re republican…think of soviet style socialism….
June 8th, 2009 at 6:59 pmbut the same asshat thinks there’s money to be made in communist china?
All Gov. Palin had to do was get out the vote. Clean up the Bush mess and become a world partner. Could it be that this is what Americans want?
June 8th, 2009 at 7:16 pmTracy__5 Says:
…because one group understands how to create wealth and the other knows how to use it up.
There’s your problem right there, I think you’ve got your groups backwards. Labor creates wealth. Concentration of wealth depresses demand, which then depresses supply. Supply-side economics has always failed miserably everywhere it’s been implemented, leading to mass human suffering and collapse. The invisible hand automatically matches supply to demand. Thus, policy should address demand, not supply. You have everything exactly backwards if you want a strong economy.
But you don’t care about that. You’ve been brainwashed by a number of astroturf movements funded by the extremely wealthy to work in the interests of the extremely wealthy at the expense of your own. You are a victim.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:35 pmTracy 5 says:
Socialism is the equal spread of misery.
When you’re quoting Churchill, you should cite it.
June 9th, 2009 at 9:01 amIn 2005 Alaska paid $4.8 billion to the Federal government and received $13.95 billion. Would you like to give that all back . . . You Betcha girl !
June 9th, 2009 at 2:03 pmPlease someone tell me how Alaska gets the 3k per person? You and I the regular taxpayer paid for the Alaskan pipeline with our tax dollars, why should they get revenue for their citizens? I think we should all ask the “brilliant Palin” to please refund to the “lower 48″ all the money. How about everyone emailing her?? I bet she would hire someone to answer all her mail!! Heh…Do you think, she still thinks that the VP creates new laws?? Actually that position would have been great for her,no power to cause any harm.
June 9th, 2009 at 3:54 pm