Pawlenty: The GOP should be ‘just like Eminem.’
Pawlenty: The GOP should be ‘just like Eminem.’
On Friday night, Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) gave the keynote address at the College Republicans National Convention. Perhaps seeking cachet with his young audience, he referred to a stunt at the recent MTV Movie Awards, and suggested that the Republican Party should be “just like” the rapper Eminem:
Opening his remarks with a reference to NBC’s “Inside the Obama White House” special, Pawlenty told the gathering of about 200 students, “I haven’t seen something that staged since that half-naked Austrian fell onto the face of Eminem at the MTV music awards.”
“Eminem was mad,” he continued, to laughter and applause. “And so, just like Eminem getting dumped on, we’ve got to kind of regroup. We’ve got to continue to fight. And we’ve got some things worth fighting for.”
Considering Eminem has been criticized for sexism and homophobia, perhaps he is already serving as a model for the modern conservative movement.
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Did Tim Pawlenty really just admit to watching the MTV Video Music Awards?
Sheesh.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:05 amConsidering Eminem has been criticized for sexism and homophobia, perhaps he is already serving as a model for the modern conservative movement.
Ali, you are snarktastic!
PEACE
June 8th, 2009 at 11:05 amI suggest Pawlenty watch M’s “Mosh Video“.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:06 amThis moron fancies himself a presidential candidate? ROFL
June 8th, 2009 at 11:08 amThe Republican party can have em.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:08 am…sounds like a Republican to me….
June 8th, 2009 at 11:08 amThey are already, aren’t they? Uncouth, bigoted, no talent hypehopters.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:12 amwhen can i see my favorite GOP’ers burnin one with snoop and dre?
WWED?
hahahahaha
June 8th, 2009 at 11:14 amThink before you post, please!
Your mommy doesn’t work here.
You need to learn to wipe yourself, puke.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:14 amthe role model of demlibs, rearing his ugly head from the famed dem cesspool that is detroit.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:15 amIf he is serving as a model for his party — it’s the Democratic party.
Your inbred party of knucke-draggers are name dropping him, not Dems, idiot fcukwit.
Learn to read, puke.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:15 amobamawipe$ Says:
ralph the wonder locust Says
Maybe he saw it on his home news page, like I and milloins of other people did. I guess you cheered with glee when bj actually made an appearance on mtv, right? Think before you post, please!
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wipey,
still have a spelling problem i see.
proof before you post, please!
::)
June 8th, 2009 at 11:15 amC4Pee, it doesn’t matter what party Eminem is affiliated with, we Dems weren’t suggesting patterning our party after him, yours did!
Gosh, Pee, you can’t muster better outrage than that? Your heart’s just not in it anymore, is it?
PEACE
June 8th, 2009 at 11:16 amthe freedom Says:
the role model of demlibs, rearing his ugly head from the famed dem cesspool that is detroit.
…
repubs;
really wired in with “the kids”.
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 11:17 amEminem is a Democrat.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2004/nov/07/popandrock.eminem
If he is serving as a model for his party — it’s the Democratic party.
see there aren’t any democratic governors calling him a role model for their party… if their is a party that is searching for eminem to be a model, its the republican party… they’ve gone on record.
haha
maybe your just mad because the democratic party is actually “the big tent” party that the GOP “tries so hard” to be.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:19 amConservativeForProgress Says:
Eminem supported Obama.
http://entertainment.oneindia.in/music/international/2008/eminem-supports-obama-221008.html.
So, if you want to try to slam a party for being affiliated with Eminem, it’s the Democratic party that attracted the support of this “sexist” and “homophobic” artist.
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the oak ridge boys love him!
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 11:20 amsay what you want about eminem, but unlike the GOP, he’s got talent.
it’s talent tinged with hate, anger & homophobia, but talent nonetheless.
The GOP? not so much…..
June 8th, 2009 at 11:21 amit doesn’t matter what party Eminem is affiliated with, we Dems weren’t suggesting patterning our party after him, yours did!
Conprog doesn’t handle outrage well.
She seems to just start screaming all sorts of outrageous lies, even more convoluted than usual.
LOL!
June 8th, 2009 at 11:21 amit’s too late because he’s a democrat!
June 8th, 2009 at 11:21 amI haven’t seen something that staged….
Of course it was “staged”. That’s the only way that many people could have been in the whitehouse without causing total chaos.
I guess that Pawlenty is forgetting that pretty much every public appearance by George Bush was staged from hand picking his audience, having hand picked people in the background and a rubber Turkey.
So, now that Pawlenty has announced he’s not running for Governor again (knowing full well that he would be defeated), and knowing his presidential aspirations, is he now going to jump on the “bash Obama” bandwagon?
June 8th, 2009 at 11:22 amobamawipe$ Says:
joe cantwell Says
You’re still a worthless pos, I see.
***
the pissed off face of conservatism.
:)
is it wipey?
or is it cfp?
you decide.
:\
June 8th, 2009 at 11:22 amEminem was in on the joke, the storming out was all planned…
Is Pawlenty suggesting that all the ‘fight’ left in Republicans is a fake publicity stunt?
Actually, that makes a lot of sense…
June 8th, 2009 at 11:22 ambela, nice point. The GNOP is pretty much relegated to publicity stunts. Newt, Rush, SteelyMike, GoodnPawlenty, all just a bad joke on America.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:24 amBeware, Progressives, you’ll be seeing puhlenty of Pawlenty, the worst MH Governor in memory.
He’s everywhere, but ‘not running’. Well, his mouth is running, but he’s not.
Timmy’s greatest skill is taking potshots at Democrats when they’re not there to defend themselves.
Kind of like Mount Rushblow ‘lite’. Another wingnut who never had time to serve his Country, but likes playing soldier as State CiC of the National Guard.
He gave our State legislators two choices this fiscal year; do it my way, or I’ll do it my way. Sound familiar?
Mini-Bush comes to mind. If this man become President, we’ll all be…
Living With Less in the Land of Pawlenty’
June 8th, 2009 at 11:25 amMock disgust and false anger? Hey, that DOES pretty much sum up the Republican Party!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/04/MV3G17S57C.DTL
June 8th, 2009 at 11:25 amobamawipe$ Says:
This post by tp is a classic example of parsing words. He never said “the gop should be just like eminem.” Lie, much? The funny part is the tp minions suck it up like good little tools.
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he’s trying to get with “the kids”
wipey. just like you.
:)
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 11:26 amobamawipe$ Says:
spencers mom Says:
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C4Pee, it doesn’t matter what party Eminem is affiliated
LOL!
**
original.
:|
June 8th, 2009 at 11:27 amHey, wipey! Check out the Burger King thread when you get a chance. If you dare.
Left you a little something there.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:27 am“Hello, Pot? Kettle’s on line one.”
June 8th, 2009 at 11:29 amConservativeForProgress Says
June 8th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Eminem supported Obama.
__________________________________________________________
So did a lot of people. But suggesting that the Democratic Party wants to mold itself after everybody who votes for their candidates is lunacy. Try again to make a coherent point.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:29 amThis story is a ridiculous non-story!
We all know President Obama had massive support from the typically under-informed, so called hip, MTV, first time voters!
You just don’t want to lose a large portion of your base!
June 8th, 2009 at 11:32 amOnce again, Republicans confuse ‘entertainment’ with ‘enlightenment’
Basing your party’s platform on this stunt makes as much sense as basing your interrogation policy on a Spy Show…
None.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:32 amIs it a surprise they don’t know the difference between a staged stunt and reality? As for Pawlenty’s strategy, his biggest asset right now is his ability to gum up the works of people trying to fix things.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:33 amPawlenty :
” I haven’t seen something that staged since that ‘half-naked’ Austrian fell onto the face of Eminem”.
But people have been seeing ‘half-naked’ and exposed Republicans falling on the faces.
And that was not a stunt…!!
June 8th, 2009 at 11:33 amWe all know President Obama had massive support from the typically under-informed, so called hip, MTV, first time voters!
Please don’t cede the youth vote to us, Ro!
Tee-hee… can you alienate the elderly next?
June 8th, 2009 at 11:35 amTim Pawlenty, the soon to be former Minnesota governor, will soon to be a republican presidential candidate and why the debt our State is in, we should all pray that he some how doesn’t miraculously become our next president. He is a believer in the outdated and failed economic policies of Reagan. He claims he is strongly against raising taxes, especially for corporations and yet has added various “fees” as if to think Minnesotans sre stupid enough to fall for his smoke and mirrors it because he calls these extra charges fees, instead of taxes.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:36 amProud Says:
You libs are really stretching to find ways to attack the GOP. But of course it is to be understood since it takes your attention away from the failure your dear leader is turning out to be. Keep on trying to change the conversation, but can any of you list ten things he has done right since taking office? I think Eminem would have made a better President than this clown we are stuck with.
***
can you list twenty things
sarah palin is wearing that
she paid for herself?
…
well can you?
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 11:37 amYes, lets make a story out of what Pawlenty said while ignoring the fact that the porkulus bill was sold to us as a way to keep unemployment from getting as high as it is right now!
June 8th, 2009 at 11:38 am——————————————————————————–
obamawipe$ Says:
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This post by tp is a classic example of parsing words. He never said “the gop should be just like eminem.” Lie, much? The funny part is the tp minions suck it up like good little tools.
Typical from this site. They have a hard time with facts.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:39 amRomartin16985 Says:
This story is a ridiculous non-story!
We all know President Obama had massive support from the typically under-informed, so called hip, MTV, first time voters!
You just don’t want to lose a large portion of your base!
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damn kids!
:|
June 8th, 2009 at 11:39 amJohnM Says:
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obamawipe$ Says:
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This post by tp is a classic example of parsing words. He never said “the gop should be just like eminem.” Lie, much? The funny part is the tp minions suck it up like good little tools.
Typical from this site. They have a hard time with facts.
***
but you keep coming back,
so they must be right.
***
thank you for your support.
***
June 8th, 2009 at 11:41 amDidn’t Eminem just admit to having had a drug addiction problem, too? Is Pawlenty saying that the Pubbies are (like Eminem and Rush Limpballs) a drug addicted freak? Good job, Pawlenty — between him, Jindal, Palin and Gingrich they have a great bunch of leaders — of course, after Rush, that is.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:41 amTypical from this site. They have a hard time with facts.
Pawleny says, and I quote:
But the FACT is that Eminem was not MAD… he wasn’t getting dumped on. He pretended because he likes Cohen and wanted to help him in his skit.
Is Pawlenty suggesting that Republicans are getting fake mad to further the Democratic parties agenda?
That does explain a lot…
June 8th, 2009 at 11:43 amConsidering it was a staged event, and Eminem’s anger was part of the entire thing, I think Pawlenty’s statement is pretty meaningless.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:43 amHelen,
Don’t you realize that lowering yourself to insult someone who has battled an addiction and won, says much more about you (and all those democrats who agree with you)?
June 8th, 2009 at 11:45 amAnother desperate republican attempt to appear hip and cool to a demographic they would love have come in the “Big tent”. I doubt Pawlenty could name 1 Eminem song. BTW, pubs, the hip kids are going with Indy rock these days.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:45 amNext the GOP will quoting Snoop Dog when it comes to the economy: “I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind!”
June 8th, 2009 at 11:45 amYou democrats always have the young uninformed vote!
People become more conservative as they get older and usually wiser.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:47 amif pawlenty knew it was staged, did he not also know that the “anger” was also a put-on? …aka, staged?
wow…
surely most of those college Rs knew that… surely?
June 8th, 2009 at 11:48 amRomartin16985 Says:
You democrats always have the young uninformed vote!
People become more conservative as they get older and usually wiser.
***
ro,
it’s a long way to ninety.
and not everyone makes it…
:|
amen.
:\
June 8th, 2009 at 11:48 amRomain16985 Says:
You democrats always have the young uninformed vote!
People become more conservative as they get older and usually wiser.
I’m 43. I’ve leaned left all my adult life.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:49 amYour point, again?
So what joe?
You’re using your angry face again, should I be concerned?
June 8th, 2009 at 11:50 amWill the next Republican convention have a mosh pit??
June 8th, 2009 at 11:50 amI said USUALLY wiser beetle.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:51 amRomartin,
Don’t you realize that lowering yourself to defend torture and refusing to acknowledge that there are NO Professional interrogators willing to say that water-boarding is a smart or effective method of interrogation, says more about you (and all those who agree with you) than you might care to admit?
And don’t explain how you hate young MTV viewers again, please! We hate when you point out how those kids don’t vote Republican… tee-hee.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:52 amSo he admits he was staged, which means he’s putting out a call for fake outrage. Got it. I wonder why he even bothered to mention this…
PAWLENTY: Hey Jimmy the Intern, come over here. I’m visiting some college Republicans and I need to bone up on the “hep” references. Something current event-y that the young folks know about. Something groovy and cool. One a’ them “meems” or whatnot.
JIMMY: Well, there was that thing that happened at the MTV Movie awards that was pretty funny.
PAWLENTY: Is that that hoochie-music TV channel? Alright, cue it up on your waist-top there.
JIMMY: OK. Now see the flying angel guy? He’s a famous homosexual from Austria. Well actually he’s a Jewish comedian from England who pretends to be…
PAWLENTY: Sounds like a Democrat to me either way! The Democrats are all fake high-flying Jew homosexual foreigners anyway… Oh, he seems to be stuck!
JIMMY: It’s a trick. Actually they’re going to lower him onto a rapper sitting in the audience. One who has been unfairly accused of homophobia in the past.
PAWLENTY: Oh no, that’s horrible! Look at that poor man having a homosexual’s supple round ass shoved in his face. Why, that’s just like us and gay marriage! How I pity that poor rapper!
JIMMY: Well, now the scuttlebutt is that it was all staged. He was in on the joke, but still…
PAWLENTY: But still, homesexual anuses are being dropped unfairly onto poor rappers! Jimmy, I think we have a winner with this. I’m going to talk all about it in my speech!
JIMMY: Well, that might be kind of dumb…
PAWLENTY: Billy the Intern, get over here, we’ve got a speech to draft!
June 8th, 2009 at 11:54 amdemocrats are good at attracting the do-nothing twenty-something votes. obama has a bunch of them working in the wh on my dime. under obama, the federal government will be overrun with them and the push to cut the federal payroll will be greater than ever. when will the “secretaries” and “outreach specialists” and “spokespeople” stop flooding my government?
June 8th, 2009 at 11:54 ambelaccifer
I never said I hate them, you may be projecting.
You really should be flagged, you are way off topic.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:54 amRomain16985 Says:
I said USUALLY wiser beetle.
I’ve been married only once.
I’ve successfully raised 1 daughter.
I’m in the process of raising 3 other children.
I run my own business.
I’m content with my WISDOM.
Your point, again?
June 8th, 2009 at 11:55 amI’m 43. I’ve leaned left all my adult life.
Your point, again?
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and you’re still an arrogant pos.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:56 amRomartin16985 Says:
So what joe?
You’re using your angry face again, should I be concerned?
***
it’s a mighty long road, ro,
a mighty long road.
:::
…
sorry you don’t feel the same way.
:(
June 8th, 2009 at 11:56 amI’ve been married only once.
I’ve successfully raised 1 daughter.
I’m in the process of raising 3 other children.
I run my own business.
I’m content with my WISDOM.
Your point, again?
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does the daughter have the same sense of entitlement and pomposity as her father?
June 8th, 2009 at 11:57 ambeetle
Yet you still vote democrat, while someone such as yourself probably lives a fiscally conservative life.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:58 amOh, Ro… you are funny… You never answered me all those weeks ago… not one name, that’s all.
But I thought this was a ‘ridiculous non-story?’
Now it’s the only topic worthy of discussion?
Which is it, Ro?
June 8th, 2009 at 11:58 amFirst off, nice troll-circle-jerk here this morning.
Romartin16985 Says:
“We all know President Obama had massive support from the typically under-informed, so called hip, MTV, first time voters!”
Sorry fool. The younger end of the voting demographic simply doesn’t watch FOX or listen to fools like Savage, Limbaugh etal. Most, if not all, get their info from the intertubes these days. They care about their Country’s future, are curious to find actual facts (hence the shunning of right wing BS) and take the time to research the truth. Sorry trolls if the truth has a liberal bias but your party had a good run forcefeeding their lies, hate and fear to the LIV’s for decades. The internet savvy younger generation isn’t buying what you’re selling anymore. Have you idiots considered just how bleak the future of the Republican Party is? As the current older generation of LIV’s, gullible rednecks and religious extremist’s die off, that younger generation (overwhelmingly Democratic) will be securing the Republic Party’s relegation to the scrap heep of history. The GOP held power so long because they were masters of propaganda, lies, strawmen and projection. Sadly for them but liberating for the rest of the Nation, now it only takes a few minutes on teh Google to get the truth. The Nation is on to the GOP bullshit and it reeks.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:59 amjoe,
I really don’t know what you’re trying to say, you’re being a little vague. Yes I know not everyone makes it to 90.
There’s difficulties along the way that make us wiser, yes.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:59 amyou know who also voted democrat? phil spector. his trophy wife 41 years his senior said he was a big obamahead.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:59 amthe freedom Says:
I’m 43. I’ve leaned left all my adult life.
Your point, again?
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and you’re still an arrogant pos.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:56 am
***
obamawipe$ Says:
joe cantwell Says
You’re still a worthless pos, I see.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:19 am
***
meet the new handle.
same as the old handle.
:)
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 12:01 pmthe freedom Says:
you know who also voted democrat?
Most of the United States?
And more and more everyday?
Hey- you’re right!
Thanks, the freedom!
June 8th, 2009 at 12:02 pmthe freedom Says:
you know who also voted democrat? phil spector. his trophy wife 41 years his senior said he was a big obamahead.
***
wonder who he voted for?
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 12:02 pmRomartin16985 Says:
joe,
I really don’t know what you’re trying to say, you’re being a little vague. Yes I know not everyone makes it to 90.
There’s difficulties along the way that make us wiser, yes.
***
but it doesn’t mean we can’t stop
and smell the roses sometimes,
does it?
…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:02 pmbelaccifer
Yes I most certainly did answer you, you just didn’t like my answer.
This is a ridiculous story, but sometimes a more interesting line evolves don’t you get that?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:04 pm…
ro,
the main thing is that
tim’s for “the kids”,
right?
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 12:05 pm….
he “digs” them.
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 12:06 pmjoe,
I just knew you would devolve into insinuating something about a Republican and kids if given enough time.
This really says much about you and nothing about Pawlenty.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:08 pmRomartin16985 Says:
joe,
I just knew you would devolve into insinuating something about a Republican and kids if given enough time.
This really says much about you and nothing about Pawlenty.
***
ro,
if you think tim’s a “groovy”
guy then you should give him
your support and don’t let me or
anyone else tell you otherwise.
***
that’s where i stand on the subject.
what are your thoughts?
…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:11 pmYes I most certainly did answer you, you just didn’t like my answer.
You found a name? I don’t remember that… strange.
I see it evolving… You continue to insult the youth vote as ‘uninformed’ when the facts don’t support that.
Keep alienating the kids! Get em off yer lawn and outta yer tent!
June 8th, 2009 at 12:11 pmSex, drugs and rap.
Yep, them is some conservative family values…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:12 pm“I haven’t seen something that staged since that half-naked Austrian fell onto the face of Eminem at the MTV music awards.”
OK, while we’re on the subject of Republicans being clueless (after all, it is a day that ends with a “Y”), does Pawlenty really believe that Bruno is a real guy and not a character played by Sacha Baron Cohen?
So…he believes the Republicans should “regroup” and “fight for the things worth fighting for” the way Eminem did…which was, to fake it for a person pretending to be someone else in the first place?
With marching orders like this, I’m amazed we’re not seeing McCain and Palin working on our entrance strategery into Iran as we speak.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:12 pmA Patriotic Anopheles Acting
what does the “younger end” do, exactly? play on their blackberry? you can question plenty of young people on the street and they won’t have a damn clue of the constitution and principles that make this country great. they tag along to the next hot thing in search of an easy paycheck to fund the ritzy apartments and iphone upgrades. do they have a deep interest in democratic principles, let alone any principles? of course not – they have their finger in the wind. they drink themselves stupid. they can’t seem to grasp the tough life because they’ve never been challenged in life. you defend a group of people who don’t make this country work – they are rabid consumers and nothing more.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:12 pmthey are rabid consumers and nothing more.
And without “them”, the US dies.
But we already knew that was your agenda.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:13 pmThe regressives are seriously trying to “scoreboard” us on behavior and ethics?
That’s as funny as a crutch Rich…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:16 pmIf my party’s elected officials made a habit of Twittering when they’re drunk, I wouldn’t go shooting my mouth off about “blackberries” and “iPhone apps”.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:16 pmthe freedom Says:
A Patriotic Anopheles Acting
what does the “younger end” do, exactly? play on their blackberry? you can question plenty of young people on the street and they won’t have a damn clue of the constitution and principles that make this country great. they tag along to the next hot thing in search of an easy paycheck to fund the ritzy apartments and iphone upgrades. do they have a deep interest in democratic principles, let alone any principles? of course not – they have their finger in the wind. they drink themselves stupid. they can’t seem to grasp the tough life because they’ve never been challenged in life. you defend a group of people who don’t make this country work – they are rabid consumers and nothing more.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
***
beating a tambourine is easy
but what are you doing
to make the world a better place?
???
June 8th, 2009 at 12:16 pmthe generation y-ers are especially useless in the workforce. can’t find them doing anything specialized, they’re merely prissy cats behind a counter. while i understand they have payments to make on their prius, they need to get out of the way of more productive people (likely older), do some hard labor and learn about productivity. it’s time for a wake-up call, not the “internet savvy” coddling crap that liberals like to spew.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:19 pmthe freedom Says:
the generation y-ers are especially useless in the workforce. can’t find them doing anything specialized, they’re merely prissy cats behind a counter. while i understand they have payments to make on their prius, they need to get out of the way of more productive people (likely older), do some hard labor and learn about productivity. it’s time for a wake-up call, not the “internet savvy” coddling crap that liberals like to spew.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
***
is there anything else they do
that bothers you?
:|
June 8th, 2009 at 12:21 pmthe freedom Says:
Even your rants are recycled!
–Socrates
June 8th, 2009 at 12:22 pmAnd without “them”, the US dies.
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it’s headed in that direction because of their low levels of productivity and your excessive praise and coddling. i don’t see what the hype is about.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:22 pmRomartin16985 Says:
Yet you still vote democrat, while someone such as yourself probably lives a fiscally conservative life.
Fiscally responsible =/= conservative.
See Reagan, Bush and Bush for examples.
.
slappy magoo Says:
OK, while we’re on the subject of Republicans being clueless (after all, it is a day that ends with a “Y”), does Pawlenty really believe that Bruno is a real guy and not a character played by Sacha Baron Cohen?
Yeah – technically, it was a half-naked Englishman.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:23 pmit’s headed in that direction because of their low levels of productivity and your excessive praise and coddling. i don’t see what the hype is about.
Neither did Socrates… but Plato did fine.
You’re old… you have the freedom to get over it.
The kid’s are alright…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:24 pm****
i mean really bothers you?
:|
June 8th, 2009 at 12:24 pmjoe, stop embarrassing yourself.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:25 pmthe old always fear the young. Luckily the old die. The demographics don’t look too good and the fossils are whining bigtime… Shall we take a look at the stats on the levels of education earned by different generations prior to announcing the “ignorance” of the youth?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:25 pmthe freedom Says:
joe, stop embarrassing yourself.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
***
i know how to use an ipod.
and you don’t.
:)
June 8th, 2009 at 12:26 pmi’m not old. and the kids aren’t alright.
you should be coming around to my point of view: the same defense of youth in the 60s created the Reagan revolution of greed. the erosion of manufacturing. are you happy?
what you are doing is solidifying laziness.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:27 pmJune 8th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
the freedom Says:
you know who also voted democrat? phil spector. his trophy wife 41 years his senior said he was a big obamahead.
Only a republican would think that a trophy wife is 41 years older than the hubby…I guess that explains their obsession with Barbara Bush!
Back to the topic of young republicans; the craigslist killer is a former young republican from SUNY Albany…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pmfree dumb (getting what it pays for) says:
democrats are good at attracting the do-nothing twenty-something votes.
Tiny little tent getting atomic sized as we read….
June 8th, 2009 at 12:30 pmthe freedom Says:
i’m not old. and the kids aren’t alright.
you should be coming around to my point of view: the same defense of youth in the 60s created the Reagan revolution of greed. the erosion of manufacturing. are you happy?
what you are doing is solidifying laziness.
***
do you really mean
“solidifying“?
???
June 8th, 2009 at 12:30 pmthe freedom Says:
the generation y-ers are especially useless in the workforce. can’t find them doing anything specialized, they’re merely prissy cats behind a counter. while i understand they have payments to make on their prius, they need to get out of the way of more productive people (likely older), do some hard labor and learn about productivity. it’s time for a wake-up call, not the “internet savvy” coddling crap that liberals like to spew.
you forgot “GET OUT OF MY YARD YOU PUNKS!!!I’M KEEPING THIS GOLDURN FRISBEE!!!”
June 8th, 2009 at 12:31 pmbellacifer
Okay here we go again. Yes, waterboarding does not always give reliable information. and as such it was NOT widely used. Those interrogators you’re talking about – I believe them when they say they did not get good results!
Those interrogators that did are private and should stay that way. I can’t give you their names, as this is CLASSIFIED.
Cheney says, in the case of those 3 terrorists, after all else was tried, he says IT DID WORK as we got information that prevented another attack.
And I know you don’t believe Cheney one wit.
The problem is our President does not want to release the information that Cheney says shows in these limited cases waterboarding was a valuable tool. No where to go until Obama decides we get to know the full story.
I don’t hate kids and welcome them in our big tent. Speak for yourself!
June 8th, 2009 at 12:31 pmLuckily the old die.
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liberals oppose ageism – not!
by the way, i’m in my 20s and more productive and wise than most my age. i’ve gained many experiences that exceed that of my self-entitled peers. you want to eat, you work.
dems defend laziness. just what is it that youth are adding besides the trash left across the washington mall after hearing their rock star give his inaugural speech?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:32 pmBoth MTV and Eminem both admitted that the event was staged.
So …. the GOP should stage an event for them to get offended over and walk out on? Is that what Pawlenty is saying?
The only problem that I have with that is that I’m not forced by U.S. law to pay Eminem’s salary. I can show my disgust for Eminem’s fake “outrage” by not buying his albums. If I try the same thing for my congressmen, I tend to go to jail.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:34 pmthe freedom Says:
Luckily the old die.
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liberals oppose ageism – not!
by the way, i’m in my 20s and more productive and wise than most my age. i’ve gained many experiences that exceed that of my self-entitled peers. you want to eat, you work.
dems defend laziness. just what is it that youth are adding besides the trash left across the washington mall after hearing their rock star give his inaugural speech?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
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you’re not working.
you’re here.
when you’re not here
you might be working.
or you might be watch tv.
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June 8th, 2009 at 12:35 pmthe freedom Says:
Luckily the old die.
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liberals oppose ageism – not!
says the guy who supported bush’s efforts to privatize social security and give all that money to his fatcat buddies on wall street. How would that have worked out for the old people you pretend to care about?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:35 pmthey are rabid consumers and nothing more. -TF
I think the elites call them the chattering class or useless eaters. But, yes, thats what capitalism creates to satiate its need for greed, that is to exploit peoples desires and wants for profit even to go so far as to use psychology to get people to buy stuff they dont really need for greater profit.
Whats odd about this, what you complain of, is that its primarily republican led, whats ironic is they also claim to be the party of GOD…but I wonder, this doesnt seem spiritual at all, more like materialism [Mammon]
June 8th, 2009 at 12:37 pmthe freedom Says:
L. just what is it that youth are adding besides the trash left across the washington mall after hearing their rock star give his inaugural speech?
a whole bunch of them are over in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting two wars that your boy bush started, and screwed up…The question is, why aren’t you over there doing your partriotic duty, along with all those treasonous cowards that Palentwy was talking to?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:38 pmwhere did i say i hated kids? i dislike the democratic meme that shills pop culture whores as “the future of america.” what about the good kids who don’t drink themselves stupid and take seriously developing themselves into upstanding and productive citizens? too many youth today vote dem because they believe they’re the gateway to getting it all easy and free, not to mention getting way with their indiscretions.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:38 pmdems defend laziness. -=TF=-
Remember when the dems wanted congress to work more days a week?
The howls from the right were loud and long!
June 8th, 2009 at 12:38 pmjoe,
Here’s my thoughts as you requested -
You need to watch what you say, as you are too ready to make insinuations that you have no business making. Should a Republican say what you did earlier, I can imagine the reactions here.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:38 pmtoo many youth today vote dem because they believe they’re the gateway to getting it all easy and free, not to mention getting way with their indiscretions.
they’re just smart enough to see through the lies of george bush and co….They’ve seen what 8 years of conservofacism has done to our country and they want to fix your mess…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:41 pmdems defend laziness.
I never ever defended Dubyas record vacation days, which was once held by Reagan.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:41 pmThose interrogators you’re talking about – I believe them when they say they did not get good results!
Those interrogators that did are private and should stay that way.
Here we go again. Find one who agrees that it is ever a good idea… just one. Those who are willing to come forward and were in the room say it didn’t give good intel. They say their proven techniques were working and working well.
Why can’t you find ONE professional willing to say ’sometimes’ waterboarding is a good idea do you think?
All the professionals who think this were actually performing the waterboarding? Telling, don’t you think?
I believe the interrogators over Cheney because Cheney has a vested interest in saying it works since his fingerprints are all over it. Interrogators who were or were not involved have no real ax to grind with waterboarding… as I pointed out, most are Republican and interested in doing whatever it takes to get good intel. So what possible reason would they have for saying it’s NEVER a good idea?
And good luck getting the kids to your party when ya keep calling them ignorant! That always works…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:42 pmso, freedom boy, why aren’t you serving in the military? you’re young, smart and patriotic, what’s the holdup?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:42 pmtoo many youth today vote dem because they believe they’re the gateway to getting it all easy and free, not to mention getting way with their indiscretions. -=TF=-
I would like to see you substantiate that pundit piddle
June 8th, 2009 at 12:44 pmsocial security cannot be sustained and i do not expect a social security pension when i age. i am saving. in fact, navigating the world of investment strategies is a hobby. it’s a building block of small returns, because most wealth doesn’t come quick.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:44 pmBobwurst Says:
so, freedom boy, why aren’t you serving in the military? you’re young, smart and patriotic, what’s the holdup?
do you have mental health issues? last time i checked, we were an all-volunteer military.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:44 pmGetting it easy and getting it free…..why, that wasnt teens, that was banksters of wall street!!!
June 8th, 2009 at 12:45 pmthe freedom Says:
social security cannot be sustained and i do not expect a social security pension when i age. i am saving. in fact, navigating the world of investment strategies is a hobby. it’s a building block of small returns, because most wealth doesn’t come quick
but bush’s plan would have bankrupted social security last year. and all those old people who depend on it would be eating out of dumpsters now…and why aren’t you serving in the military freedom? you’re young, smart, and patriotic, why are you not defending our freedoms from the islamofacists?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:46 pmbelaccifer
I NEVER called young voters ignorant, you are putting those two together yourself in an attempt to twist my words to your benefit.
Young voters are typically QUITE INTELLIGENT, they’ve just been fed a load of bull for so many years from liberals at every turn.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:46 pmAbout your comments, no.
But if you had any integrity, you would.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:47 pmdo you have mental health issues? last time i checked, we were an all-volunteer military.
So you’re willing to enjoy the freedom that other’s earn through service?
Socialist!
June 8th, 2009 at 12:47 pmRomartin16985 Says:
joe,
Here’s my thoughts as you requested -
You need to watch what you say, as you are too ready to make insinuations that you have no business making. Should a Republican say what you did earlier, I can imagine the reactions here.
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oh ok:
joe cantwell Says:
…
ro,
the main thing is that
obama’s for “the kids”,
right?
:)
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joe cantwell Says:
….
he “digs” them.
:)
(i really don’t think anybody’s gonna care, ro.)
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June 8th, 2009 at 12:47 pmnavigating the world of investment strategies is a hobby. it’s a building block of small returns, because most wealth doesn’t come quick.
Thats not earning money, doing real work, thats gambling.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:47 pmbecause most wealth doesn’t come quick.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:48 pm—
I suppose you “drive safe” as well…
do you have mental health issues? last time i checked, we were an all-volunteer military. -=TF=-
Stop loss is not voluntary.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:48 pmRomartin16985 Says:
I NEVER called young voters ignorant,
But, but…
Please explain… and then one name- if you don’t mind. Thanks!
June 8th, 2009 at 12:49 pmare you a dirty old man, bobwurst? what the hell does the military have to do with my argument? seek help for your control freak issues and your bush derangement syndrome.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pmSo, while I was enjoying lunch between storms, I’ve been labeled “arrogant”, “fiscally conservative”, “sense of entitlement and pomposity”, all for posting what I value at my age.
Just curious, how can a progressive piece of arrogant poop like myself be fiscally conservative and yet have a sense of entitlement?
But, good news, I’ve noticed a “Preview” button below my post. Sweet. No more to many grammatical errors on my part!
June 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pmSo “the Freedumb”, is your hypothesis that the younger generation as it ages, will suddenly wake up and embrace the Republic Party? Sorry, I don’t see it happening. The modern Republic Party has NO answers to the myriad problems caused by the Republic Party, only political posturing and the reliance on their largest base…low information voters. Their daily diatribes of anger, lies, smears and intollerance are a sure-fire recipe for expanding that party, right? You’re in your forties right? So when you were “maturing” past your youth America was enjoying a time of economic expansion in the eighties and throughout the nineties. The future was so bright you had to wear shades right? Well the young generation today is all too aware of the mess that Republicans have left this Nation. They know all too well coming out of college that good, well paying jobs are all but non-existent (thank you Repubs), the economic future, although recovering, has been all but hobbled by an uncaring and corporate owned Republic Party. Sure they may party and sow the seeds of youth, hell what generation didn’t? I can sense the anger and fear in your pathetic posts because you know that the future of the GOP is bleak.
Freedumb says “…it’s time for a wake-up call”
Well fool, I’d say America had one this past November. American voters are awake and very aware of the Republic Party’s lies, tricks and games. Don’t blame us because you missed the wake-up call. Just go back to bed. Keep sleeping, keep eagerly swallowing the bullshit fed to you by the likes of FOX and Limbaugh. And keep telling yourself that the Republic Party is ready for a comeback cause without fools like you here, the day wouldn’t be nearly as amusing.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pmThis character TF is a real character, says others his age dont want to work hard and he works hard by creating wealth thru gambling.
Some role model.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:51 pmand do so without “majority” or “consensus”
June 8th, 2009 at 12:52 pmthe freedom Says:
are you a dirty old man, bobwurst? what the hell does the military have to do with my argument? seek help for your control freak issues and your bush derangement syndrome.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
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you don’t sound like you’re
in your twenties.
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June 8th, 2009 at 12:53 pmThats not earning money, doing real work, thats gambling.
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social security is a ponzi scheme. investment is a fundamental business principle in america. i don’t think you have any place determining what’s real work when you’re the party defending the unproductive.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:54 pmfeedumb Spews:
by the way, i’m in my 20s and more productive and wise than most my age. i’ve gained many experiences that exceed that of my self-entitled peers.
Okay, who’s the arrogant pos again?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:54 pmAnd since when did a productive and wise young adult not be able to capitalize “I”???
belaccifer
You’re using the word ignorant, not me.
Liberalism is everywhere in our culture, unfortunately, and this is what young people learn.
My statement stands, experience usually does make one wiser, if you don’t get it that’s your problem. And as those folks get older, they watch FOX, right?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:54 pmGee… it’s too bad the Right doesn’t have a highly-evolved message delivery system in place to catapult their propaganda… oh wait — they do. Talk radio. Faux news. Drudge. All aided and abetted by the Corporate Media.
Hmm.. so it seems like Ro is actually complaining that the liberal message is more effective at reaching the QUITE INTELLIGENT young voter demographic.
Oops.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:54 pmthe freedom Says:
are you a dirty old man, bobwurst? what the hell does the military have to do with my argument? seek help for your control freak issues and your bush derangement syndrome.
I seem to have touched a nerve freedom, why the anger? I simply pointed out a group of adults your age who are not lazy, who are doing a difficult dangerous task. And since you feel free to blow your horn here about how smart and hard working you are, I’m only asking why you aren’t fighting in either of the wars your party was so gung ho to start. You still haven’t answered my question by the way. at least not explicitly…your angry diversion is a very clear answer…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:55 pmDo you hate our culture?
If not, you should acknowledge the part that liberalism has played in its development.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:55 pmHey, A “Patriot”
yes, i’m very scared of the pop culture whores who waddle drunk in public. put that up against my extensive employment record and i’m shell shocked!
June 8th, 2009 at 12:56 pmYes, locust, everyone loves Santa Claus.
Who WOULDN’T want to get things for free?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pmLiberalism is everywhere in our culture—
June 8th, 2009 at 12:58 pm—-
Can you say magic hand? The market seems to have spoken it seems…
freedom, people here are going to start thinking you’re just one more loudmouthed pampered republican crybaby if you don’t answer why you’re a draft dodger…
June 8th, 2009 at 12:58 pmTF stop trying to pin your imagination [Bush derangement syndrome, dems defending laziness, social security issues, etc etc] on other people.
Its intellectually dishonest…and, really, it reeks of the inanities spewed by pundits.
When you point a finger, in your hand, three point back.
June 8th, 2009 at 12:59 pmMy statement stands, experience usually does make one wiser, if you don’t get it that’s your problem. And as those folks get older, they watch FOX, right?
Ahh, yes. The ‘I didn’t use the actual word you did’ defense.’
Well played, Ro, well played.
Please then explain why I should equate the opinion of a career politician with a vested interest in defending his decision with that of ‘experienced’ professional interrogators with objective, actual ‘experience’ and wisdom on the topic of water-boarding… or just give me the name of ONE professional interrogator who feels that water-boarding is SOMETIMES justified and effective… thanks!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:00 pmLiberalism is everywhere in our culture, unfortunately, and this is what young people learn.
Liberalism, when you think about it, is a product of capitalism.
Shocking, I know, but there it is. When people capitalize on others wants and desires….for money.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:02 pmSo how about posting that “extensive employment record”. Andrew Wang isn’t scared to. Andrew graduated summa cum laude. Andrew also understands adverbs…
June 8th, 2009 at 1:02 pmlocust
Maybe you’re projecting, as I don’t hate our culture.
I detest liberalism and all of the dependency and wasted lives it has fostered.
Things don’t come for free. But if a President promises a free lunch, many will jump at it and now we have an administration that is leading us to economic ruin.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:03 pmI detest liberalism and all of the dependency and wasted lives it has fostered.
So you detest capitalism and want America to be like…North Korea?
No liberalism there.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:06 pmLiberalism didnt create dependency its that avarice caused poverty.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:07 pmCollege republicans? What a joke. More like a bunch of kiddies trying to be different. Stay out of my party, quasi-libs.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pmStay out of my party, quasi-libs.
Jesus was poor. He never was in your party.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:09 pmSo Jimmy Big Bucks is their leader. I am so releaved. I have been asking who the skipper of this rudderless ship is for months now. Hey capt, you’d better look out you are approaching the shoals…
June 8th, 2009 at 1:11 pmAnd Romartin doesn’t disappoint with a slapdash, careless reduction and distortion of a point in order to make his own seem less silly by comparison.
Doesn’t disappoint in the failure to achieve that aim either. Romartin’s original point still seems pathetically, irretrievably silly.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:13 pmTry some reading comprehension, Ro. I asked a question of you. I didn’t “project”.
Here’s my comment in response to your complaint that liberalism is everywhere in our culture:
Now, had I accused you of hating our culture, you might have some leg to stand on. But I didn’t. I asked you to clarify a position that your comment suggested.
I realize this may be a little advanced for you. i’ll slow down if you need me to.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:16 pmIts better to give than receive -Santa
GOP bumpersticker:
Skroo Santa the Socialist!
June 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pmRomartin16985 Says:
locust
Maybe you’re projecting, as I don’t hate our culture.
I detest liberalism and all of the dependency and wasted lives it has fostered.
Things don’t come for free. But if a President promises a free lunch, many will jump at it and now we have an administration that is leading us to economic ruin.
wait wait wait! Where was this whining when the last President took us from record surpluses to economic ruin?! What’s with this wasted lives thing? Explain.
I’ve gone to college on grants and tax payer money. I’m so greatful for the chance to get my education despite losing my money when I was discharged from the Navy. I personally have no problem having money taken from my paycheck to ensure that my fellow Americans get the same chance at an education that I have and can see a doctor when they need to. Wasted life no. I learned a long time ago not to be selfish.
Once I get my MS I start at $50,000/yr as an intern then move up past 100,000/yr or so. Still no problem helping my fellow Americans get that same chance.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:22 pmthe freedom Says:
dems defend laziness.
No we don’t.
Look, I can argue just like you!
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Vasagi Says:
I can show my disgust for Eminem’s fake “outrage” by not buying his albums. If I try the same thing for my congressmen, I tend to go to jail.
Correct. As an American citizen, it is your duty to pay your fair share towards the maintenance of America. The fact that you seek to skirt your duty tells me just how much of a “patriot” you really are.
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the freedom Says:
where did i say i hated kids? i dislike the democratic meme that shills pop culture whores as “the future of america.”
We aren’t responsible for pop culture. We just think it’s stupid to demonize it as a political tactic.
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Romartin16985 Says:
You need to watch what you say, as you are too ready to make insinuations that you have no business making.
Why did you touch up all those children, anyway?
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the freedom Says:
Hey, A “Patriot”
…put that up against my extensive employment record…
Congratulations, you’re the one millionth wingnut to come in here and act like holding down a job should earn you a medal! I hate to break it to you, but it’s not that hard. All us grown-ups do it. Life is not the Special Olymics, dude.
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Romartin16985 Says:
…and now we have an administration that is leading us to economic ruin.
In contrast to the last administration, who led us to – oh wait.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:23 pm… and on the actual topic:
Em’s actually not a bad guy. My father worked for him for about two years when he would film a video, do a photo shoot or perform out here in LA (my dad’s a makeup/special effects artist). A lot of the anger is an act to sell albums.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pmelbruce
There is something wrong with you, get help soon.
June 8th, 2009 at 3:59 pmRomartin16985 Says:
Not one name, huh?
June 8th, 2009 at 4:12 pmbelaccifer
Still obsessing over that point?
You need to ask your President for that information.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pmStill obsessing over that point?
You need to ask your President for that information.
No- to have any credibility on this issue you need to find one professional interrogator willing to say that these techniques are effective and warranted SOMETIMES… all the one’s I’ve named say NEVER.
Where’s one name (they don’t have to admit doing it- just thinking it makes sense) of a professional interrogator who agrees with you.
One.
Otherwise your argument doesn’t hold any water. And you support ineffective and illegal techniques despite the advice of professionals… which at the very least is criminally negligent and stupid.
One name who agrees with you.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:50 pmbelaccifer
Now you’re perseverating and obsessing.
June 8th, 2009 at 5:28 pmNo- you can’t name one… that doesn’t tell you something, Romartin? There’s not one professional even willing to say that SOMETIMES, under exactly the right circumstances, waterboarding is both effective and warranted.
That’s your argument, right?
That mostly it’s a bad idea, but that SOMETIMES it’s necessary?
Why can’t you find ONE PROFESSIONAL INTERROGATOR who says that. At this point I’d settle for one who DOESN’T say the exact opposite.
ONE.
But you can’t, ’cause there isn’t one… why do you ignore ALL that evidence?
June 8th, 2009 at 5:34 pmbelaccifer
I’ve answered your question many times.
When you ask the same thing or do the same thing over and over and expect a different result than the one you’ve been getting, isn’t that one of the definitions of insanity?
June 8th, 2009 at 7:08 pmYou haven’t answered my question at all.
You have avoided dealing with my question and put me off by claiming that the names I seek are in the classified documents that Cheney claims the CIA is withholding.
I ask you one last time… are the ONLY people in the world who think this works and is a good idea the ones who ACTUALLY did it or ordered it?
You don’t see that as a problem? A conflict of interest?
If this worked sometimes, under specific circumstances, couldn’t you find just ONE professional to say that?
But I’ve looked… and I can’t find one.
And you haven’t been able to, either.
And yet you’re sure that Cheney must be right and proper and that it is the names of Professional interrogarors I’ve provided , many of whom describe themselves as both pragmatic and REPUBLICAN, who have an ax to grind and have ‘political motives’ for coming out against it…
Do you really wanna start defining insanity?
June 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pmRomartin16985 Says:
I’ve answered your question many times.
It would be shorter to just type out the name than to say what you said there…
June 8th, 2009 at 9:37 pmThe idea that becoming Republican is a natural part of maturation is bunk. Try to find a Depression-baby that’s not a staunch Democrat. I used to think I just adored the elderly, til I met the generation that came after the people who remembered the Great Depression. The generation after them is generally priggish and authoritarian—the angry, bitter Fox News viewers.
If the Depression babies were alive in sufficient numbers during the W. era—you would have seen the effects of their activism. They would have been out rocking the vote, and educating people about the issues and the way government works in droves.
Alas, there aren’t that many of them left. It seems we have depressions and major wars when the last generation that remembers them has died out.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:55 pm