Lieberman-Graham torture photo ban will be added to ‘every piece of legislation that comes down the pike.’
Lieberman-Graham torture photo ban will be added to ‘every piece of legislation that comes down the pike.’
Yesterday, Jane Hamsher reported that the detainee photo amendment sponsored by Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) was stripped from the war supplemental in committee. The amendment would have allowed the Obama administration to suppress any “photograph taken between September 11, 2001 and January 22, 2009 relating to the treatment of individuals engaged, captured, or detained” after 9/11 by U.S. forces. This afternoon, Graham and Lieberman held a press conference to register their objections to dropping the measure and announce that they had “added our original legislation as an amendment to the FDA regulation of tobacco bill that’s on the floor right now”:
LIEBERMAN: [W]e’re going to vote against cloture on the bill, and I’m going to do everything I can to see if I can convince other Democrats to do that.
We’re just not going to roll over because some folks in the House don’t like this amendment. [W]e’re going to do everything we can to hold up the supplemental appropriations bill until we’re sure that this amendment prohibiting the release of these dangerous photographs is on that bill. And then we’ll continue to do everything we can to attach it to other legislation, to slow up the process.
Graham said the amendment was needed because “These photos, if they’re released, will be used by the enemy to incite violence as they walk down these streets.” A “senior Democratic aide” told the Weekly Standard that the two senators would “attach [the amendment] to every piece of legislation that comes down the pike.”
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When Obama denies the photo release, he thinks, “This will protect the troops.”
When Lieberman and Graham (and Cheney, etc.) deny the photo release, they think, “Cover our asses.”
June 9th, 2009 at 5:35 pmOr in other words:
June 9th, 2009 at 5:37 pmThey are going to do everything they possibly can, to hide evidence from the citizens of the US (and world), so that their friends Dick-n-Bush won’t be indicted at any level.
Can we please just release the pics so these libs can realize they’re wrong?
June 9th, 2009 at 5:39 pmWhat a bunch of children. Wah we can’t get our way! What is this high school?
Though I don’t want to see the photos for reasons I’ve discussed in previous threads on the topic, this is the most childish response I’ve seen.
*sigh* as long as they get used against the people who authorized it.
June 9th, 2009 at 5:40 pmYou are an unaccountable piece of crap, Lieberman. I hope you’re enjoying your final term.
June 9th, 2009 at 5:42 pmLike a couple of children throwing a fit. I would expect no less from these two.
“….will be used by the enemy to incite violence…”
I don’t know, the crazies in Pakistan seem to be making headway regardless these days.
If you’ve got to fight that hard to hide it, that should probably tell you how inappropriate the activity was in the first place.
June 9th, 2009 at 5:43 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
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Can we please just release the pics so these libs can realize they’re wrong?
June 9th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Like the way we were “wrong” about Iraq and the godawful Bush presidency , you GOP nut hugging stooge ?
June 9th, 2009 at 5:44 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
Can we please just release the pics so these libs can realize they’re wrong?
All the evidence you need that right-wingers want the country to fail.
June 9th, 2009 at 5:45 pmFrom the story at HuffPo: “Is the ACLU now in charge of the House of Representatives?” Graham asked.
God forbid an organization dedicated to civil liberties would have any clout in the Legislature.
Can we please kick Lieberman out of the damn caucus?!
June 9th, 2009 at 5:50 pmAnd still this relic fails to accept that it is not release of the photos that can cause harm, it is the tolerance of the conduct depicted in the photos and the subsequent cover up of that conduct which will ultimately cause greater harm when the evidence inevitably surfaces. Didn’t these wingnuts learn the essential lesson of watergate — it ain’t the crime, it’s the cover up?!?
June 9th, 2009 at 5:53 pmobamawipe$
Are you alerting McMetal that you wiped$ your filthy bum with your sock? Put it in the washer and mom will get around to it – geez!
June 9th, 2009 at 5:54 pmHey assfinger/asswiper/asspimple, I’m printing your post and wiping my ass with it.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!
June 9th, 2009 at 5:56 pmThey probably need to include the eight months prior, the whole of that administration. As long as they’re so specifically revoking the 1st Amendment, might as well forbid any mention of the worst administration in history.
June 9th, 2009 at 5:56 pmThe Droopy Dog/Huckleberry cartoon hour is my favorite time of the day. I never fail to get a hearty laugh out of watching the comical antics of these two perennially wrong, mealy-mouthed clowns.
Just saying . . .
June 9th, 2009 at 5:57 pmI’m calling for a proposal to rename Jimmy Big Bucks as Jimmy Small Balls. Do I hear a second?
June 9th, 2009 at 5:57 pmWhy so desperate? Are Lieberman and Graham in some of these pictures?!?
June 9th, 2009 at 6:00 pmDestroying the 40-year-old Freedom of Information Act is not the answer. Even if it were, what is being offered in exchange for losing our only tool to force government transparency? Can Senators Lieberman and Graham personally guarantee that all torturers and torture conspirators will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law?
June 9th, 2009 at 6:02 pmThe photos, previously released, show that the previous admin ignored the Geneva conventions we are a signatory to.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:02 pmAre you alerting McMetal that you wiped$ your filthy bum with your sock? Put it in the washer and mom will get around to it – geez!
Since when do hillbilly shacks have washing machines?
June 9th, 2009 at 6:02 pmObama’s asswiper used to work at a cotton mill folding men’s stockings for shipment. Her job description was “sock tucker”.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:04 pmIntrepid Says:
I’m calling for a proposal to rename Jimmy Big Bucks as Jimmy Small Balls. Do I hear a second?
Can’t we just ignore it completely? Please!
June 9th, 2009 at 6:04 pmobamawipe$ Says:
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MCMetal Says:
sock alert
June 9th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
obamawipe$ Says ……………Ah , does anyone really give a shit what this pathetic little worm says ?
Get lost , tool…….
June 9th, 2009 at 6:04 pmIf we did the write thing why are these wimps unable to stick by their guns? Why are they backing down? What are they afraid of?
They should want the rest of the world to see…maybe strike some fear in them.
That would all be resonant with the tough talk we always heard from Bush and his trademark finger-poke to the eye of foreign governments no matter who they were.
So now they’ve decided that we can’t stand by the course of action we took by letting our actions be known.
It might be better not to do those things that no one else should know about. The truth always comes out in one form or another.
What could be worse than what we’ve already seen? Impalement? Dismemberment? Genital mutilation?
OK, maybe they know something we don’t know.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:09 pmThe refusal to release the torture photos isn’t because it will entice terrorists to attack the us, it’s because the parties involved in the torture of detainees are afraid they will get prosecuted if those photos are publicly displayed. The FOIA must be enforced and those photos must be released to expose those who have perpetrated the use of as well as those who allowed it to happen. Bush and the members of his dictatorship must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and punished accordingly. Refusing the release of the photos is IMO an obstruction of Justice and Obama MUST follow through on the court order suggesting their release. It’s the law Barry and a lawyer such as yourself should know that.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:10 pmI thought Iraq was a democracy, not an enemy?
June 9th, 2009 at 6:10 pmCan’t we just ignore it completely? Please!
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Graham said the amendment was needed because “These photos, if they’re released, will be used by the enemy to incite violence as they walk down these streets.”
Meaning, he knows these cases wiil be thrown out of court, and the detainees released. He knows this, because he knows the cases are shaky, using evidence gained by torture. So to his mind, having released detainees walk the streets is inevitable, and better than if they haven’t seen the photos.
But, with the photos unreleased, the enemy can create horrors much worse than any torture we inflicted, and we cannot rebut their claims. This makes the situation much more potentially explosive, than the mere sight of the pictures themselves.
Openness is the best tactic in this case.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:19 pmSo Jimmy believes fervently that the photos will endanger our troops, but he is urging their release because he thinks he can score a political point.
Way to support the troops, there, Jimmy.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:19 pmI still can’t help being amazed at the “logic” that leads to the conclusion that occupying foreign countries, with all the horrors that entails, is supposed to “protect us” while acknowledging and disavowing our part in those horrors is seen as “creating enemies”.
Here’s a newsflash: The enemies have already been created! They, their children, and their grandchildren for generations will continue to be our enemies. But, if we admit our crimes and make amends? Some of them may decide to put their hate aside and forgive us. Though they will never forget.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:22 pmThese senators need to do what their constituents want, not what they want.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:22 pmIf torture wasn’t illegal and that’s why Bush & Cheney weren’t arrested, then why not release the pics?
After all, if it was a-ok then, it should be a-ok now…
June 9th, 2009 at 6:23 pmAnd really, I dont need to see the gory details, a panel will. We need accountability, this is a democracy damnit, start treating it as one and covering up and pardoning wayward elected officials, damnit.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:26 pmIf torture is legal, why did we prosecute those who have tortured?
June 9th, 2009 at 6:27 pmWe don’t need these photos to be released to get the job done.
We have enough evidence to charge Dick(head and Botch with murder, war crimes, tortue and crimes against humanity.
WTF are we waiting on??
June 9th, 2009 at 6:28 pmPlus, of course, it’s a remarkable insight to the Reichwhing mind. It fits right in with the “librul media” crap. They deflect blame from those who have done terrible things to those who report them.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:30 pmIt’s called playing the victim card.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:34 pm“The enemy” — does that include home-grown terrorists & right-wing extremists like Scott Roeder who assassinated a U.S. doctor who was performing legal operations?
June 9th, 2009 at 6:40 pmAnd even Bill O’Reilly admitted that Bush/Cheney tortured– he just continues to say that it’s legal. So if it’s legal– Lieberman & Graham– why ban any photos? Do the Repubs realize how insane they sound? They can’t even be consistent.
I agree barfly. I have a very vivid imagination and the pictures can’t be worse than what I imagine they are.
The only reason NOT to release them is to protect those doing the deeds.
Someone needs to ask holy joe and fancy pants if they were there.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:42 pmWhat, no McCain?
But the Three Amigos always ride… together!
Or is even he too embarrassed to sign his name to this piece of dogshit?
June 9th, 2009 at 6:43 pmGet a room you two.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:44 pmGraham said the amendment was needed because “These photos, if they’re released, will be used by the enemy to incite violence as they walk down these streets.”
which streets? these AMERICAN streets, maybe? is that what he means?
June 9th, 2009 at 6:50 pmmore the-terrists-will-be-released-in-your-neighborhood fear mongering?
It’s time to strip Joe Lieberman from his committee!
June 9th, 2009 at 6:53 pmThat’s the style, Joe. When you don’t get your way, throw a hissy-fit . . . just like Bush Jr. By the way, I’m not sure what exactly anyone is going to get out of the release of this information/photos, etc., depicting war crimes ordered by the Bush/Cheney Junta. We already know the truth. Not sure anyone is really privy to the context in which the Obama adm. is working. My guess is that the new administration is ham-strung in some way . . . . but it’s only a guess.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:56 pmyou lost me at “barry”, intrepid… booooooo.
too bad.
June 9th, 2009 at 7:00 pmYou know what would stop the violence?
A full-scale prosecution up and down the chain of command.
These fine lawmakers are primarily concerned about the safety of our troops, right?
June 9th, 2009 at 7:08 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
Can we please just release the pics so these libs can realize they’re wrong?
Wrong about what? Wrong that we want to punish sadist madmen?
Wrong about releasing the photo will produced the truth about chimpy’s psycho admin?
Release the pics, you teabaggers can’t have it both way. They will eventually be leaked.
What are you afraid of?
June 9th, 2009 at 7:11 pmMy guess is that the new administration is ham-strung in some way . . . . but it’s only a guess.
Hamstrung by a judge, who isn’t buying the shinola. If Obama goes against a federal judge and keeps the photos secret, or worse yet, destroys them, then that’s it for me. I have been dialing back my hopeful anticipation since he took office, but this is a bright line of political demarcation for me. He could mandate free bbq ribs every Sunday, but I will officially be off the Obama wagon if he takes that route.
He’s not going to prosecute them. Fine. At least let us see the things that were done in our name, and treat us like free Americans, not residents of some Baltic backwater.
June 9th, 2009 at 7:12 pmI’d still take the ribs, make no mistake.
June 9th, 2009 at 7:16 pmThe Republic Fascist Party is doing everything they can to cover for Bush and Cheney’s WAR CRIMES.
The only difference most of the time between political parties is that one is more corrupt than the other, alot more. But still both are corrupt and will do anything to retain power for themselves and their corporate “Donor” masters.
Honor, ethics, morals don’t seem to exist in DC anymore, Republic Fascist Party members have seen to the destruction of everything decent.
And then we have the psychotic knuckle draggers who accept everything the Borg programs them to spew…
…example A: Jimmy Big Butt
June 9th, 2009 at 7:32 pmAfter Abu Ghraib, isn’t this like closing the barn door after all the horses have left?
June 9th, 2009 at 7:38 pmLIEBERMAN: We’re just not going to roll over because some folks in the House don’t like this amendment. [W]e’re going to do everything we can to hold up the supplemental appropriations bill until we’re sure that this amendment prohibiting the release of these dangerous photographs is on that bill. And then we’ll continue to do everything we can to attach it to other legislation, to slow up the process.
Wow, Lieberman really knows how to be a hamstringing pain in the @ss, which leads me to a question:
Where the fcuk was this kind of obstructionism and dedication from our spineless leadershi(t) dems? Why don’t the dems know how to stick to their guns and lay it on the line for the better legislation and their empty promises of ending the War and restoring Habeas Corpus?
Why do the republicans corner the market on ballsy guile? If republicans can shamelessly flip America the bird to defend a bunch of torturers (and get away with it), why the GD Hell can’t the dem leadershi(t) grow a nutsack for all the right reasons?
Particularly with a dem president?
(Yeah, I know the answer too, but sometimes just posing the right question reveals the ignominiously obvious.)
June 9th, 2009 at 7:51 pmNot releasing the photos isn’t going to prevent attacks on our troops. The bombing and fighting continues daily. These two goons are just ridiculous obstructionists trying to cover for the Bush Crime Family.
June 9th, 2009 at 7:52 pmAre we talking about the Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) ammendment to cover up attrocities so they need not be prosecuted?
The Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) cover up criminal activities ammendment?
June 9th, 2009 at 8:01 pmXisithrus Says:
I thought Iraq was a democracy, not an enemy?
I don’t know, are they all Christian yet?
/snark
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barfly Says:
What, no McCain?
But the Three Amigos always ride… together!
Or is even he too embarrassed to sign his name to this piece of dogshit?
Every third Tuesday, McCain remembers he’s supposed to have scruples.
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KayInMaine Says:
It’s time to strip Joe Lieberman from his committee!
Good point – if he’s going to play these kinds of reindeer games, if he’s forgotten just how lucky he is to have been allowed any pro-forma respect on his return, then he can suffer some consequences for it.
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hormiga brava chavez Says:
Not releasing the photos isn’t going to prevent attacks on our troops. The bombing and fighting continues daily. These two goons are just ridiculous obstructionists trying to cover for the Bush Crime Family.
Precisely.
Besides, releasing the information won’t tell our enemies or their sympathizers anything they don’t already believe anyways. What it will tell a lot of people “over there” is that we’re owning up to what we’ve done and are in the process of making it right. In the long run, that’s going to save a lot of lives, and not just of “the troops.”
June 9th, 2009 at 8:13 pmWhat is Graham measuring?
June 9th, 2009 at 8:14 pmI just wished there was a photo ban of Lieberman and Graham!
Pictures of “whiny” twins if shown to small children would probably be considered as severe abuse in most states.
June 9th, 2009 at 8:16 pmWhy do Droopy Dog and Huckleberry hate the troops?
Hey, Nutmeggers – Ned Lamont buyer’s remorse? Much?
June 9th, 2009 at 8:28 pmDroopy and Huck hate showing how they hate troops.
June 9th, 2009 at 8:31 pmGo read Seymour Hersh and Jason Leopold. They have told us what’s in the tapes. Cheney is running around talking about waterboarding to divert us from the sick stuff in the latest rounds of tapes. If the general public (and even the 30% staunch Bush supporters) sees the sick sh*t in those tapes, even they will demand Cheney’s indictment – and Cheney (and Liz) know this.
June 9th, 2009 at 8:38 pmAnd so do Lindsey Graham and Whiner Lieberman…
June 9th, 2009 at 8:39 pmGuido, they’re raping women and children and they have it on tape WITH SOUND.
June 9th, 2009 at 8:41 pmGoogle: “Seymour Hersh, rape” and you’ll find loads of info. get back to me when you’ve read it, please.
June 9th, 2009 at 8:45 pmhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/14/193750/666
June 9th, 2009 at 8:46 pmFormer Major General Antonio Taguba, the officer who conducted an inquiry into Abu Ghraib in 2004, has been interviewed by Britain’s Daily Telegraph. In the interview he confirmed that the unreleased prisoner torture photos contain images of rape at Abu Ghraib.
http://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2009/05/28/2873843-children-raped-at-abu-ghraib-us-general-confirms-seymour-hershs-abu-ghraib-accusations
Good enough, Guido?
June 9th, 2009 at 8:53 pmNo. Obviously the Cheney administration doesn’t want this to get out to John Q. Public as even the clinically stupid who have supported Cheney will HAVE TO admit he’s a sick fcuk and should be prosecuted. Right?
June 9th, 2009 at 9:04 pmAs long as we’re talking about waterboarding and not child rape, he’s still somewhat human….
Lindsey and Lieberman are going with the whole “if they don’t see it, it didn’t happen” M.O. because, afterall, they think all of us are stupid.
June 9th, 2009 at 9:07 pmLieberman in 2007
“We in this chamber have a responsibility to make certain that-no matter what our disagreements and differences here in Washington-our men and women in uniform in Iraq and Afghanistan are not caught in the political crossfire.”
Lieberman in 2009
“[W]e’re going to do everything we can to hold up the supplemental appropriations bill until we’re sure that this amendment prohibiting the release of these dangerous photographs is on that bill.”
Why did Dems decide to support him against Lamont again?
June 9th, 2009 at 9:13 pmA whistle blower needs to release these photos and get it over with.
June 9th, 2009 at 9:16 pmA whistleblower could release the tapes but the MSM will never play them. Those who are paying attention will know but the TV drones (and that’s the vast majority) will just sleep through it.
June 9th, 2009 at 9:22 pmnofltwlt Says:
A whistle blower needs to release these photos and get it over with.
A lot of them are all over the internets already. Officially “releasing” them would merely constitute confirmation that those photos are indeed real.
June 9th, 2009 at 9:35 pmWTF is the matter with these guys (Lieberman and Graham)? Why is it so “necessary” for this to be passed ASAP by any means possible?
And what ever happened to just trusting the preznit to “do the right thing” (something that both these nominal senators did when that preznit was Dubya….)?
Cheers,
June 9th, 2009 at 9:53 pm#18 rmwarnick Says:
Can Senators Lieberman and Graham personally guarantee that all torturers and torture conspirators will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law?
You miss the point. The point is to hide/destroy the evidence so that these people won’t be prosecuted. Hell, already, some three dozen or so people have died in custody, and not a single conviction of murder, despite a fair number of these deaths being ruled homicides.
Cheers,
June 9th, 2009 at 10:00 pmThey want to be free of responsibility. Free of responsibility as a nation in the world. Free of responsibility from life itself – just lore, prophecy, religion, fear.
June 9th, 2009 at 10:22 pmDroopy and Huck’s thinking is analogous to leaving rattlesnake poison in your leg because it’s going to hurt to cut it open and suck the poison out. Do that and the poison will get you later.
June 9th, 2009 at 10:27 pmDharma Says:
A whistleblower could release the tapes but the MSM will never play them.
We don’t need the MSM to consent to play them any more. The Internet exists.
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BCK Says:
Why did Dems decide to support him against Lamont again?
They didn’t. Lamont won the Democratic primary over Lieberman. Then he entered the general election as an independent. Enough Dems didn’t realize he wasn’t a Dem any more, and all of the Republicans voted for him, so he squeaked back in.
June 9th, 2009 at 11:55 pmNice to see Lieberman continues to take the moral low ground. He is not concerned about the atrocities which have been committed, but about their disclosure.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:10 amGood for Lieberman and Graham. I hope they totally gum up the Senate for the next 3 & 1/2 years. That way this madness of Socialism might just slow down!
June 10th, 2009 at 12:10 amRealityCheck Says:
Good for Lieberman and Graham. I hope they totally gum up the Senate for the next 3 & 1/2 years. That way this madness of Socialism might just slow down!
says the guy who used socialized health care :)
June 10th, 2009 at 12:41 am.
Q U E S T I O N:
What kind of nation, bestows upon it’s president, the ability to quash evidence of crimes committed by “former” presidents?
Will the liberty to decide what Laws to follow be extended to covering up crimes committed while still in Office?
Of, For, and By just whom, again?
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June 10th, 2009 at 12:41 am.
Dear checkedoutofreality,
Are you sure you want to stand by that? Gum up the Senate? With what, exactly? A will to obstruct justice? And you’re FOR that? Some principles you have for yourself and your Nation.
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June 10th, 2009 at 12:44 amRealitycheck, we must expose any form a prisoner abuse. It is a highly destructive and criminal activity. We want it exposed now and in the future, especially in the future – there will be a special wing in prison for anyone who tortures from now on, and the pictures must be public domain. sorry, i know it husts but it makes us stronger.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:45 am.
Dear Lindsey Graham,
Please fill in the blank.
America is a Nation of _ _ _ _, NOT a Nation of _ _ _.
None dare call it TREASON!
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You know what would prevent inciting violence like that? NOT DOING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Damn.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:27 amThis is obstruction at the highest level.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:41 amThey should be fired for even proposing such a thing.
They’re trying to prevent violence alright, violence against those who approved and committed the acts both on the street and in jail.
I also do not agree with the concept that the CIA and/or interrogators should not be held accountable. Holding them accountable IMHO is the first step in holding those who approved it and set it in motion accountable.
As near as I can tell, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
“These photos, if they’re released, will be used by the enemy to incite violence as they walk down these streets.”
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WHEN is this LIBERAL MEDIA gonna ask these Senators WHY these fotos will incite violence?
I love hearing men talking ‘trash’ . .
June 10th, 2009 at 10:37 amRealityCheck Says:
That way this madness of Socialism might just slow down!
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RC, I hope your not close to age 65 ’cause then you might be relying on that nasty ole ’socialistic’ Medicare for your medical coverage . .
Or in a horrific accident wherein after your private insurance is exhausted and cancelled, you need to apply for SSI or SSD, let’s hope not, eh?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:44 amRealityCheck Says:
Good for Lieberman and Graham. I hope they totally gum up the Senate for the next 3 & 1/2 years. That way this madness of Socialism might just slow down!
They’re just two more speedbumps to drive over. Y’all already trashed the country, and now you’re trying to prevent anybody else from fixing it, in the misguided fear that us fixing it will prove for once and for all how everything you stand for is flat wrong and all of our approaches to these problems are correct. But you can’t hide the truth forever; neither the torture nor the larger issue of the GOP as a temporary filthy stain on the greatness of America.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pmIt’s odd that “everything did was legal” and “we didn’t torture” but we’ll use whatever means necessary to prevent people from seeing photos of how we treated prisoners.
June 10th, 2009 at 2:56 pmWho’s in charge of congress again?
:|
I keep forgetting.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:23 amHow can you people compare beheading with waterboarding? You care more about terrorists than our own troops, who are risking their lives to protect you. Shame on you all.
June 11th, 2009 at 6:49 pm