ThinkFast: June 10, 2009
ThinkFast: June 10, 2009
According to a USA Today/Gallup Poll, most people don’t know who speaks for the Republican Party. A 52% majority of those surveyed couldn’t come up with a name when asked to specify “the main person” who speaks for Republicans today. The top response was radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh (13%).
The remote Pacific island nation of Palau said yesterday that “it has agreed to a U.S. request to temporarily resettle up to 17 Chinese Muslims” now being held at Guantanamo Bay. Palau President Johnson Toribiong said the Obama administration “made the request last week and that his country was ‘honored and proud‘ to resettle the detainees from China’s Uighur minority as a humanitarian gesture.”
State Sen. R. Creigh Deeds won Virginia’s Democratic gubernatorial election yesterday, capturing approximately 50 percent of the votes. Terry McAuliffe came in second with 26 percent, followed by Brian Moran with 24 percent. Deeds will now face off against Republican nominee Bob McDonnell in the general election.
“Forty percent of low-income Americans do not have health insurance,” says a report released yesterday by the Department of Health and Human Services. “Approximately one-third of the uninsured have a chronic disease and they are six times less likely to receive health-care services than those with insurance,” the report found. Read the full report here.
The family of the late Dr. George Tiller “announced Tuesday that it will not reopen his Kansas clinic, eliminating one of the few medical practices in the country that performed abortions late in pregnancies.”
Despite claims by critics that the TARP plan would be a money loser, when 10 banks returned $68 billion of the money yesterday, President Obama said the government had realized a small profit. According to McClatchy,”in addition to returning the $68 billion, the 10 banks paid the government $1.8 billion in dividends on the preferred shares of stock the government owned.”
The Obama administration is scrapping its plan to cap salaries at firms receiving government bailout money, “leaving them subject to congressionally imposed limits on bonuses.” Instead, the administration is planning to appoint a “pay czar” to monitor the firms receiving the most government aid.
The Department of Homeland Security announced yesterday that it is “temporarily freezing a policy of deporting widows and widowers of U.S. citizens.” Under the Bush administration’s immigration crackdown, “immigrants who had been married for less than two years or whose green-card process hadn’t been completed when their spouses died” would have faced deportation.
After reviewing Congressional Budget Office reports going back almost a decade, the New York Times has found ” two basic truths about the enormous deficits that the federal government will run in the coming years.” First, that President Obama “is responsible for only a sliver of the deficits, despite what many of his Republican critics are saying” and second, that Obama “does not have a realistic plan for eliminating the deficit.”
And finally: Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor is still making her way around Capitol Hill, despite her fractured ankle. Senators are trying to make her meetings as comfortable as possible though. Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) had “a bag of ice and a pillow on hand” when she arrived, and quipped, “I hope you all note that some Republicans are empathetic, too.” Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) and Mary Landrieu (D-LA) both signed her cast, and Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) presented the Yankees fan with a “snapshot…of himself posing outside the old Yankee Stadium.”
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Freeze out that tiresome Obamawipe$ from the moment it appears. It is a clown looking for attention. Rejoice in humiliating by frustrating its cry for attention until it reappears with a new name and then humiliate it some more. Do not give it any place to turn.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:05 amThanking you in advance…
The family of the late Dr. George Tiller “announced Tuesday that it will not reopen his Kansas clinic
The terrorists have won.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:06 amThe USS Republican is rudderless, although Rush, Sarah, Sean, Bill, and Newt are fighting over the wheel
Gotta love watching the party of fear, racism, ignorance, and bigotry fall apart. It makes the trolls so much funnier because any one with any sense has left the party.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:07 amRe #1: Can I as the same for the freedom?
June 10th, 2009 at 9:07 amOn health insurance, the only plan that will help the currently uninsured or under insured would be a public plan. Anything else would be nothing more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:07 amabsolutely, dbadass
Operation Freeze n Flag has proven itself successful at dealing with the right wing troll cowards.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:07 amBwahaha A thrice married/divorced drug addict speaks for the GnOP!
Join the amoral minority today!
June 10th, 2009 at 9:12 amRep. Mark Kirk (R-IL) now appears to have taken a bold step in the debate over the budget deficit: Openly telling a foreign government not to trust the administration in Washington.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:12 am(TPM)
Good on Palau
June 10th, 2009 at 9:15 amAccording to a USA Today/Gallup Poll, most people don’t know who speaks for the Republican Party.
The exact same thing can be said of those in the crappy Republican Party itself…….
June 10th, 2009 at 9:16 amCaption contest:
“Hold my hand!”
June 10th, 2009 at 9:16 am“Kiss me first”
“Shh, Im talking to Larry Craig”
The family of the late Dr. George Tiller “announced Tuesday that it will not reopen his Kansas clinic
And the christian terrorists will tout this as a great victory, clebrating the murder of a law-abiding citizen by a fanatical (and, by definition, unlawful) vigilante.
Sick, sick people.
I am struck by another curiosity in this — the doctor obviously had a great measure of education — what was the education level of his murderer?
June 10th, 2009 at 9:17 amThat’s a really harsh former policy against widow(er)s.
And Ben Nelson is bizarre.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:17 amWith the current disarray in the Republican Party it is no wonder that nobody knows who the primary spokesperson is. Tellingly, it is not even an elected official or the RNC Chairperson but an “entertainer”. Now how devistating is that?
June 10th, 2009 at 9:18 amCue Republian spin: “Look! Two Democraps lost in yesterday’s election! This is just the start of 2010’s Republican Revolution!”
June 10th, 2009 at 9:20 amEnough with the Czars. Please…this is worse than a decade of “blue ribbon panels” and just as doomed and ineffective.
Even here in New Orleans, we have been saddled with Ed Blakely, an expensive “Recovery Czar”, who has done little but take bike tours of the city and spew “cranes on the skyline” rhetoric.
Can’t we just have someone in charge of department – and get some actual progress made?
June 10th, 2009 at 9:21 amI dont see a victory for the doctor killers, women will just seek out other avenues.
Its sad that they regress, in a democratic society, to barbarian Taliban like methods…whats next forcing women to stay home and wear burkas in public?
June 10th, 2009 at 9:21 amRantingTommy Says:
absolutely, dbadass
Operation Freeze n Flag has proven itself successful at dealing with the right wing troll cowards.
Not as much as one would hope. wipey started up at 7:30 am yesterday and was still spraying feces after 2:00 am last night. Without a true commitment from the regulars, the nasty little units will return. I name no names but it would help if they would learn not to feed the trolls. I doubt that will happen, though, because for some people the compulsion to argue with trolls is as great as the troll’s need for attention.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:21 amCan’t wait to hear one of the GOP’s spokespersons, Mr. Limbaugh, weigh in on the broken collarbone of his pal, Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
What was it he was saying about the Supreme Court nominee’s accident???
June 10th, 2009 at 9:23 amRoeder had some six jobs, IIRC, in the last four months. His wife divorced him, he was becoming unstable, to protect herself and her son.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:23 amooooooo, Werewolves of London
June 10th, 2009 at 9:24 amAoooooo
Aoooooo
Ahmadinejad says election rivals use Hitler tactics
Reuters – ?1 hour ago?
By Parisa Hafezi and Dominic Evans TEHRAN (Reuters) – Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accused his election rivals on Wednesday of adopting smear tactics used by Germany’s dictator Adolf Hitler and said they could face jail for insulting him.
… isn’t it ironic… don’t you think…
June 10th, 2009 at 9:25 amgummble, I guess it depends on your definition of “successful”
to me, OFnF successfully made the troll spin out of control, begin babbling to itself, and then declare victory and melt down
it was great
I agree though, we need more uniform participation to make it 100% effective
June 10th, 2009 at 9:26 am“Forty percent of low-income Americans do not have health insurance,”
They are just low-income families, you know. And that’s less than half, so that’s not all that bad — not even a simple majority.
And they are low income because they just aren’t working hard enough, because anyone who works hard enough in America can have whatever income they desire, because that is what the American dream thing is all about. And so if they worked harder they’d have some insurance, because only insurance companies know what doctors and procedures you need for your health, and they need your money. It’s capitalism and all, you know.
Furthermore, they’re low income, so they’re all minorities, and they aren’t very important anyway, seeing as how they are all racialists and filthy libs.
The preceeding snark brought to you by republic fascist party reverse-projection technology.
Massage ends.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:26 amgummble-bee-itch Says:
. . . Without a true commitment from the regulars, the nasty little units will return. I name no names but it would help if they would learn not to feed the trolls. . . .
I’ll name my own name and apologize for my part in egging on a ridiculous non-discussion. Here’s my vow not to repeat yesterday’s time-wasting, energy-depleting feeding of a troll.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:26 amWhile the American Taliban circles the wagons looking for it’s leader, all they can shoot is blanks.
Lizard Boy, the Neutered One, has the gall to claim Ms. Sotomoyar is ‘faking’ the fracture. Some spokesman, eh?
GrASSley is sniping the President for actually working and The Bloated One, Limblahblahblah, adds what he can to the clamor.
The Republic Party’s purification process is working well…
for Progressives.
At this rate, the Republic Party will have a couple of hundred core activists left by year’s end.
Congratulations, Rushco, your secret plan is working splendidly.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:27 amHooray for Patty! I find a certain amount of relief from the desire to smack ‘em by discussing them in the third person – although “person” isn’t really the right word. It’s just engaging them that feeds them.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:29 amexactly gummble
it drives them crazier when you talk about them as if they weren’t here than simply ignoring them
plus, it allows us to refute their silly talking points without actively engaging them in discussion or even acknowledging their presence
June 10th, 2009 at 9:32 amXisithrus Says:
Ahh… but I’d bet beans to dollars that there will be a number of the Operation rescue types and similar minded people who DO celebrate both events as a clear “victory” (the tow events being: the murder of the doctor, and the closing of the clinic).
Of course their idiotic minds do NOT comprehend that all that has occurred is that it is a little more difficult for women seeking abortions (by choice or necessity) to get them — but that those women who are CHOOSING to have an abortion are not going to change their mind because one clinic closed — they will go elsewhere, and those who NEED an abortion for their health MUST go somewhere else.
How many women will die because they cannot obtain the procedure they need to save their lives because this clinic is closed?
June 10th, 2009 at 9:32 amRantingTommy Says:
it drives them crazier when you talk about them as if they weren’t here than simply ignoring them
plus, it allows us to refute their silly talking points without actively engaging them in discussion or even acknowledging their presence
Also, with no one copying and pasting those blatherings into responses, it contains the infection to the original source points.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:35 amSome people weren’t around for when the Operation started but I think that it will pick up steam when arrivals see how frustrated the ditto heads get. It is OK to talk about them but not to them right?
June 10th, 2009 at 9:35 amI’ll second that, gummble. (27)
Patty, I watched you try & use logic on that Troglodyte yesterday. I’ve fallen into the trap myself.
Inflammatory language and lies tends to bring an almost knee jerk response from progressive posters. I’ve discovered it’s actually more fun to refer to them in 3rd person. Eventually, another poster will join in & it becomes similar to ‘hot potato’, or ‘keep away’.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:35 amIt also drives the Trolls crazier.
“Feed a cold, starve a troll”
It would be nice if we could all agree when someone has crossed the line from being a regular troll to being a disruptive troll and to also agree to put said troll on an “extinction program” by not reinforcing it with attention. Maybe if one of us simply posts “X (poster’s handle) = troll” and no objection is raised, we then starve that troll for the rest of that thread.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:36 amIm sure they will say that as well. In reality, however, Operation rescue is a failure overall because the killing of the doctor shows their ideological tactic is fundamentally flawed. You cant make people change they have to want to change.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:38 amI also like the tactic of talking ABOUT rather than TO a “frozen troll”.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:38 amgotta love the difference in the way liberals deal with trolls vs the way freepers deal with progressives on their site
liberals plan thoughtfully and execute an intellectual response that is effective
freepers just ban and delete anything they don’t agree with
of course, it’s easy to feel superior when comparing yourself to a right winger
June 10th, 2009 at 9:40 amTrolls? What trolls? ;-)
The Department of Homeland Security announced yesterday that it is “temporarily freezing a policy of deporting widows and widowers of U.S. citizens.”
Ahh, yes. The compassionate conservatism that the right keeps saying we need to return to.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:40 amThen maybe we should pick a troll du jour to mock all day even it he’s not visible. Just for the release.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:41 amspeaking of trolls…
shouldn’t watchpuppy be here by now with some unrelated links to some erroneous right wing garbage sites?
June 10th, 2009 at 9:42 amLet the trolls keep feeding off of themselves and the only one left will be the de-facto leader himself the pill popping bloviated mass called Flush Limpballs……..
June 10th, 2009 at 9:43 amI don’t see a puddle anywhere.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:44 amOne troll the other day claimed Rush had lost a lot of weight and was off the Oxy. He must be the guy hiding under Rush’s desk.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:45 amXisithrus Says:
Operation rescue is a failure overall because the killing of the doctor shows their ideological tactic is fundamentally flawed.
I agree in principle. But I do wonder how many members of that and similar organizations actually, deep down inside (maybe not overtly), are glad for such murders (and bombings, etc.) — feeling that the violence is clearly justified and “right”.
I wonder, as well, if there isn’t a greater number who, while maybe not condoning the violence, are very much pleased to think that they have terrorized women away from the clinics. Proud of their terrorrits tactics when they work, and not able to understand the difference between education and choice and fear and terrorism.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:46 amRanting Tommy says: shouldn’t watchpuppy be here by now with some unrelated links to some erroneous right wing garbage sites?
Today is Wednesday, you know, “hump day” so watchpuppy is a little distracted with other activities.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:46 amLet the trolls have their hissy fits and then talk to them like a concerned parent…
June 10th, 2009 at 9:48 amDamn, TP must have extensive archives.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:48 amThe combined pictures of those talking slobs has got to be from what, the 1970’s ?
Doodlebug Shayne Says:
Then maybe we should pick a troll du jour to mock all day even it he’s not visible. Just for the release.
Sort of like the old line: No one is completely useless. Even the worst among us can serve as a bad example.
(my apologies for not being able to find the source of the quote. Anyone know?)
June 10th, 2009 at 9:50 ammost people don’t know who speaks for the Republican Party.
Isn’t their fundamental ideology based on a kind of capitalistic anarchy?
Lack of an obvious central figure would tie right in with that, you know.
June 10th, 2009 at 9:51 amDeeds will now face off against Republican nominee Bob McDonnell in the general election.
This is a good thing. While the more moderate of the three, he has the best chance of winning. If the repubs win the governor’s mansion we’ll have to listen to all that “look! we’re coming back in power” stuff for months. So come on VA, let’s work to help Mr. Deeds win!
June 10th, 2009 at 9:51 amAnd a big thank-you to Palau, where it appears the citizens are not so easy to frighten.
Many of them seem to follow a fundamentalist leaning. I dont think they see fear as a form of terrorism as its been taught that fear keeps people on the moral path. Fear becomes good and right. Its quite a paradox and it creates dissonant hypocrisy
June 10th, 2009 at 9:52 amPalau is going to be paid heaps of money from us to take these non-terrorists. How will the Rethugs justify spending this money while complaining about the deficit?
June 10th, 2009 at 9:57 amIt was reported today that to add insult to injury, a anti- abortion group wants to buy Dr. Tillers clinic. Is a sad day in America, when terrorism works in this country. People of all good will need to stand up to these terrorists. Maybe its time to bring the war on terrorism home.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:00 amXisithrus Says:
Many of them seem to follow a fundamentalist leaning. I dont think they see fear as a form of terrorism as its been taught that fear keeps people on the moral path. Fear becomes good and right.
That whole “fire and brimstone” angle, eh? Which is to say, “fear God”…. which is entirely opposite the actual christian dogma. — t Instead of a “love God” and “do good always”, they maintain the belief that you do good so that you don’t get punished, NOT that you do good for the sake of DOING GOOD. But, hey, they don’t seem to care about accuracy and honesty, nor, apparently, about actually doing ‘good’ unless forced to do so (which is why they, like the Taliban (et. al.), want thier version of ‘morality’ to be legislated — they have a need to have punishments to force them to do good and not do evil)….
Good point. Thanks for pointing that out. :)
June 10th, 2009 at 10:01 amSenator Vitter’s reaction to Sonia Sotomayor’s fractured ankle was a great deal classier than Rush Limbaugh’s.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:03 amangels81 Says:
It was reported today that to add insult to injury, a anti- abortion group wants to buy Dr. Tillers clinic.
Did they say why or to what use they plan to put it?
Why do I imagine that they want to make it a victory shrine of sorts?
(And if they do… I hope Dr. Tillman’s ghost haunts them till the day they die)
June 10th, 2009 at 10:07 amI have to go back to my comment at #8.
Mark Kirk, a Congressional representative from IL, had a private meeting with Chinese leaders and undermined the Obama administration, telling them not to believe the US.
It’s bad enough not to agree with the administration policies that are a valiant attempt to turn us around from the cliff Bush&Co drove us toward, but to go abroad and advocate that our country is not to be believed is tantamount to treason. Where is the outrage?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:08 amCageyCretin Says: They want to use it for their groups headquarters in Kansas, hence the insult to injury.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:09 amwatchpuppy, well the muslim convert see’s eye to eye with Tillers killer.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:11 amwe knew we could count on watchpuppy to show up with irrelevant links to everything he can find on the internet that is anti-Obama, no matter how factually challenged it is
a skipping record set on repeat
June 10th, 2009 at 10:12 amThe recession started in December 2007
June 10th, 2009 at 10:13 amDeeds will now face off against Republican nominee Bob McDonnell in the general election.
This should be fun — McDonnell has been our Atty. Genl. in Virginia for the last 4 years (that’s an elected office here), but only beat Deeds in that election by less than 400 votes. With two very successful Democratic governorships over the last 8 years, and with McDonnell already running commercials calling for a return to supply-side economics and other failed Bush policies (”keep taxes and regulation low, and the private sector will work it out”), we Virginia progressives are very encouraged…
June 10th, 2009 at 10:15 amI’m all aboard the Freeze n Flag train, but I’d like to make clear my position:
Freeze n Flag is a tactic I’d like to see reserved for only the most abusive trolls, the ones who have no other agenda than baiting people and wasting time.
With the merely stupid ones, I’m comfortable letting them interact and get mallet-whacked. Does that sound reasonable?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:15 amThat watchedfrog guy seems to grasp at a lot of straws that he keeps missing, doesn’t he?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:16 amralph the wonder locust Says: Sounds good to me.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:16 amwhen a troll becomes obvious in its disruption tactics, one of us should nominate it for the OFnF program
once twice seconded by two other TP regs, OFnF should go into effect on the nominated troll
sound like a plan?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:18 amI just assumed it was Mr. Burns.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:19 amThe average for recessions are 11 months..The average for depressions is 24 months.
The Bush recessionm, if it were, should have ended 11/2008. It didnt.
It then must be deeper than a recession and will end, MAYBE, by Dec 2009.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:19 amTerrorist watch list hits 1 million
I have not heard anyone suggest that terrorism had anything to do with the tragic loss of that flight. Preliminary explanations focus on a poorly designed pitot tube that allowed the plane’s airspeed to drop without the pilots being aware of it.
But watchpuppy finds a link to a Murdoch pub that insinuates terrorism by association, and revels in the rush of adrenaline that getting scared brings to him.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:22 amFear God because God is Good
Fear Devil because Devil is Bad
I have never understood this. It makes good people do bad things thinking its good when its not.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:23 amIs that a Photoshop manipulation up top, or did MTP actually have these two horsemen of the apocalypse on at the same time? Gingrich, as a vampire, never seems to age that much, whereas Rusty, a mere drug-addled subhuman, has malformed much throughout the years.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:24 amI like your plan, Tommy.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:25 amReligions use fear to scare people into not closely examining the preposterous claims that religions make
Religion, by definition, is terrorism
June 10th, 2009 at 10:25 amI just assumed it was Mr. Burns.
Were you saying “Boo-urns”?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:26 amWhat did Tillers killer and the soldiers killer have in common?
They both think, apparently, they are doing [Good] Gods work.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:27 amHow is an Air France plane taking off from South America President Obama’s responsibility?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:31 amralph the wonder locust Says:
But watchpuppy finds a link to a Murdoch pub that insinuates terrorism by association, and revels in the rush of adrenaline that getting scared brings to him.
Google comes up with one story related to terrists and the flight — FoxNews, quoting Sky News. One Murdoch propaganda network quoting another one.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:31 amheard on AP radio news that (is it?) operation rescue has made an offer to buy the tiller clinic…
the tiller family lawyer stated it was a disrespectful publicity stunt…
my memory……….
June 10th, 2009 at 10:31 ambarracks9 [et al] Says:
RantingTommy Says:
it drives them crazier when you talk about them as if they weren’t here than simply ignoring them
plus, it allows us to refute their silly talking points without actively engaging them in discussion or even acknowledging their presence
Also, with no one copying and pasting those blatherings into responses, it contains the infection to the original source points.
gosh… it’s like you all just thought of all this!
good on youz! … and good luck…
i’ve been hanging out here too long…………..
June 10th, 2009 at 10:34 amHello, mortal posters. God speaking.
I, too, believe naming someone a ‘czar’ is rather counterproductive in light of the name’s history. ‘Manager’ or ‘Chief’ seem more fitting.
I must also say that the news of Dr. Tiller is rather unfortunate. While I am quite obviously not one who is a very big fan of abortion, particularly when it is used as a form of birth control when less traumatic forms of such exist, I understand there exists a need for it. To be fruitful and multiply, the woman must be able to bear the fruit of her womb without worry.
I have felt the heartache of many a woman who pray to Me for guidance on this question, and it is no easy decision. I embrace those incomplete souls of the children who could not be born through unfortunate accident, and those mothers who suffer through this ordeal, too, I embrace, even if in this day and age, my power is not what it once was in the living world.
Woe to the man who claims to act in My name who murders thoughtlessly those who wish to help ease the suffering of man. A place without My presence awaits.
-God
June 10th, 2009 at 10:36 amOnly a frozen entity thinks a plane leaving S. America has anything to do with N. American president.
Mothers, dont let your kids be mentally frozen
June 10th, 2009 at 10:37 amPersonally, I worry more about ‘Lawyerism’ than Terrorism.
Legal hawks routinely take issue with anything that can derive a profit.
Anything.
The Republic Party is infamous for screaming ‘tort reform’ while being first in line to file suit.
Lawyerism collapsed Wall St., inflates medical costs, slows down government and is PROUD of it!
America needs more lawyers like we need more laws…
June 10th, 2009 at 10:41 amgod guy, once again you claim these late term abortions are being used as birth control. Please post some facts and links for your deluded BS charge.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:43 amgod guy, once again you claim these late term abortions are being used as birth control. Please post some facts and links for your deluded BS charge.
Ah no, mortal poster, I did not mean late-term abortions were used for such. I should have clarified Myself when I spoke that early abortions are sometimes used in such a way. My apologies.
I am well aware that late-term abortions are used when the mother’s life is in jeopardy of being lost, as well as the unborn child’s.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:46 amgod guy, same request, facts? links?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:48 amDoodlebug Shayne Says:
One troll the other day claimed Rush had lost a lot of weight
actually, when i saw him the other day, some weight loss was noticeable… and, when you think about how gross he was not too long ago – bouncing rush – if it WAS a loss of 50lbs, that was maybe too much too fast – and would explain just why he has been even more grumpy and ugly in his attitude…
just sayin’…
June 10th, 2009 at 10:48 amPersonally, I worry more about ‘Lawyerism’ than Terrorism.
As a lawyerist who advocates for the downtrodden, I must take exception to your post.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:50 amralph the wonder locust Says
June 10th, 2009 at 10:22 am
But watchpuppy finds a link to a Murdoch pub that insinuates terrorism by association, and revels in the rush of adrenaline that getting scared brings to him.
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Terrorism makes absolutely no sense in the Air France disaster.
When you think about it — what do terrorists want? They want to create terror. This means their acts of violence have to be very public, it must be obvious they are deliberate and unexpected, and if the act itself cannot be captured on camera, the bloody aftermath should generate lots of video footage that the broadcast media can play over and over. The idea here is to terrorize people.
So why would terrorists down an airplane out of everybody’s sight, uncaptured on video, in an area unlikely to generate a lot of video footage of the aftermath, and in an act that kills all the witnesses?
Add to that the fact that no terrorist group has claimed credit for this. And credit is something terrorists love to claim. Otherwise, what’s the point?
It makes no sense. But that won’t stop the fearmongers from attempting to make a connection.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:52 amWhy is it that when a low-income person goes to a public clinic, it’s called an abortion, but when the money has their private physician do it it’s “only” a D&C?
June 10th, 2009 at 10:52 amTerror Names Linked To Doomed AIR FRANCE Flight
Remember, even Senator Kennedy was on the “terrorist” list.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:57 amgod guy, same request, facts? links?
Some Facts on Abortion
I certainly do not believe all abortions are based on birth control, and some are based on earlier methods not working. However, some of them seem to be based on not having used birth control previously before conception.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:57 amBecause the rich can afford a fancier lable.
June 10th, 2009 at 10:58 amimagine if CFP could actually point to ONE specific action the Democratic Congress took that resulted in the recession
if he could do that (he can’t), he MIGHT have a point
well, if you ignored the FACT that Bush threatened to veto anything they passed
of course, facts have no place in CFP’s arguments, he’s just here to troll, as usual
June 10th, 2009 at 10:59 amGod of Gods,
I have heard some who profess to believe in you distinguish abortion from miscarriages. They say abortion is wrong because it is a human choice to kill a baby. They say miscarriages are ok, because You take the baby. I’d like to know, why do you kill unborn babies?
June 10th, 2009 at 11:01 amLet’s be clear about what you’re saying, Pee…
are you implying that correlation implies causality in this case?
Are you willing to make a case that the Democrats taking control of Congress and a majority of governorships somehow led to the Second Bush Recession?
If so, I’d be interested to hear your reasoning.
Thanks.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:03 amAll of the troll feeding over the past couple of weeks is why I haven’t been posting much. I can’t seem to cut through the crap that’s been slinging around.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:04 amThis fool has selective memory. The economy was stagnant at best. How many jobs had been created? How many Americans could say they were better off than before 2000, not many. Only the very rich.
Blather is not relevant to anything.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:05 amPee is now demanding “Specific Facts” and “Links” and accusing others of lies.
The irony is so thick it’s almost toxic.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:05 amConservativeForProgress Says:
RantingTommy Says: “Bush threatened to veto anything they passed.”
June 10th, 2009 at 10:59 am
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Specific Facts? Links? Or just your usual lies?
Maybe you should have been paying more attention over the last few years. Then other people wouldn’t have to walk you through the simplest things.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:07 amAgreed. It’s gotten pretty bad. Troll central must have gotten an infusion of cash from the Stimulus Bill.
We are trying to implement a Freeze n Flag program, but that’s reserved at this point for the most egregious, abusive trolls.
Pee usually tries to stay within shouting distance of the topic, so I consider his tripe fair game for rebuttal.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:08 amThe remote Pacific island nation of Palau said yesterday that “it has agreed to a U.S. request to temporarily resettle up to 17 Chinese Muslims” now being held at Guantanamo Bay. Palau President Johnson Toribiong said the Obama administration “made the request last week and that his country was ‘honored and proud‘ to resettle the detainees from China’s Uighur minority as a humanitarian gesture.”
Palau will received $200 million in aid, though the State Department denies it is a quid pro quo for the detainee deal. That comes out to almost $12 million PER detainee. Palau says they are willing to “temporarily” take them for “humanitarian purposes.” The bottom line is that our own courts said that the Uighur’s should be released immediately into the U.S., as they have been determined to be completely innocent of wrongdoing, but have been held prisoner in Gitmo anyway! So the U.S. won’t take the acknowledged innocent from Gitmo, and we won’t transfer those who still need to be adjudicated to maximum security prisons in the U.S. But we ask other countries to do so. And we bribe them to do so. Complete B.S.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:11 amyah, ralph, he tip toes right up to the line, but only sometimes crosses it
it’s funny when he tries to critique my music as if his uneducated ear matters at all
his pablum has resulted in a few more album sales for me, though, so he’s not on OFnF just yet
June 10th, 2009 at 11:12 amAccording to a USA Today/Gallup Poll, most people don’t know who speaks for the Republican Party.
That’s easy; who are the Exxon cheques made out to this week?
June 10th, 2009 at 11:13 amGod of Gods,
I have heard some who profess to believe in you distinguish abortion from miscarriages. They say abortion is wrong because it is a human choice to kill a baby. They say miscarriages are ok, because You take the baby. I’d like to know, why do you kill unborn babies?
I have no hand in the miscarriage of unborn children, My child. That is the biology of woman which ultimately decides that. Those people are incorrect in their assumptions.
It is only murder in My eyes when the child has gained a soul – which normally is between the 5th and 6th month, when the soul manages to reach the unborn fetus – and there is no sensible reason to have aborted – to give an known example, the boy who was Connor Petersen was clearly murdered. A woman who aborted because it would have otherwise killed her and the child, or being born would have considerably hurt the child, is not murder. In any case, the souls of those unborn children will always return to Me.
I hope I have answered your question.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:17 amI have no hand in the miscarriage of unborn children, My child.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:21 am—
Thus is seems god is either not all powerful and has not control over all things
if there was a god there would be no need for abortion
people could just pray to not get pregnant
since god is fiction, abortion remains necessary
it could be less necessary if right wingers would stop fighting against sex education and contraceptives
June 10th, 2009 at 11:21 amThus is seems god is either not all powerful and has not control over all things
I have power over many things, but in the end humanity must choose their own fate. I gave humans free will for that reason. Forcing My will on others, as history has shown, has only worsened the problem, even when I am not the true force behind it, which I have not been for many, many years.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:25 amI know we’ve been over this before, but it seems like “God of Gods” should at least be omniscient enough to know that “humanity” is a singular noun and thus the sentence construction should be “humanity must choose ITS own fate”, no?
dbadass, I think we’ve exposed a false idol here.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:27 amMiscarriages are a function of free will?
June 10th, 2009 at 11:28 amI know we’ve been over this before, but it seems like “God of Gods” should at least be omniscient enough to know that “humanity” is a singular noun and thus the sentence construction should be “humanity must choose ITS own fate”, no?
My child, as I have said before, My comprehension of English can be rather spotty at times. After all, English isn’t My first language.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:30 amWell, this cute little god thing was amusing the first couple of times, but now its just boring.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:30 amMiscarriages are a function of free will?
No. Miscarriage is a function of biology.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:31 amgod guy, one more thing, I’m not your child.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:31 amand god controls not biology either?
June 10th, 2009 at 11:33 amSince god has apparently denied any culpability in the miscarriage of fetuses, I seriously doubt he handles all those pesky soul deliveries by himself/herself. I wonder if god has a UPS or Fedex account to handle them. What if the truck breaks down? Does the woman gain an extra day or two to run out and have an abortion with impunity?
June 10th, 2009 at 11:34 amWell, this cute little god thing was amusing the first couple of times, but now its just boring.
god guy, one more thing, I’m not your child.
I apologize that I do not seethe with fire and brimstone, but as My Son will tell you, I am generally boring in My old age.
And I call you My child because it is a term of endearment.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:34 amDo me a favor god clown. Keep your endearment and your “my child” BS for someone else. You need not answer back, because your a clown and boring.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:37 amYou seem rather limited in your powers for a figure who claims to be what is conventionally recognized as a “God”.
My suspicion is that you’re simply a poor schlub with low self-esteem who gets a charge out of pretending to be a “God of Gods” on a web forum. I could be wrong; after all, I’m only human.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:38 amGod of Gods apparently models his management style after Dubya.
“It’s not my responsibility.”
June 10th, 2009 at 11:40 amAccording to a USA Today/Gallup Poll, most people don’t know who speaks for the Republican Party.
The other part of that survey showed that 33% of Republics (the 20% of Americans who call themselves Republics) disapproved of the way their party was going. Yesterday morning that was the emphasis of this poll. When I went to Gallup, that was the lead article on their page. And when you clicked on a link to the 33% dissatisfaction to the USA Today website, that was the emphasis of the article.
Today Gallup’s website has no mention to the 33% dissatisfaction and the USA Today link takes you to an article where the main emphasis was the lack of leaders.
So, my thinking is that the RNC called USA Today and Gallup and told them to change the emphasis because that 33% was making the party look really bad.
Besides the fact that Gallup is a right wing polling outfit, it really pisses me off that they never link to the actual poll and its results. They only write an article that has some poll numbers in it. I find that very deceptive.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:41 am(YAWN)
This Good Gods thingy is quite boring, and really not at all amusing.
But I’m sure it thinks it is being especially clever.
And that is so sad. To live in a delusional bubble with no sense of reality.
GET OUT OF YOUR MOTHER’S BASEMENT AND EXPERIENCE THE REAL WORLD is what I say.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:45 amYou seem rather limited in your powers for a figure who claims to be what is conventionally recognized as a “God”.
My power has been limited for several centuries, I’m afraid.
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GET OUT OF YOUR MOTHER’S BASEMENT AND EXPERIENCE THE REAL WORLD is what I say.
Now now, Heaven is not a ‘basement’.
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Since god has apparently denied any culpability in the miscarriage of fetuses, I seriously doubt he handles all those pesky soul deliveries by himself/herself. I wonder if god has a UPS or Fedex account to handle them. What if the truck breaks down? Does the woman gain an extra day or two to run out and have an abortion with impunity?
It is the angels in heaven who bring many of the souls of the dead to me.
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Do me a favor god clown. Keep your endearment and your “my child” BS for someone else. You need not answer back, because your a clown and boring.
It is unfortunate you feel that way, and I am sorry to hear it.
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and god controls not biology either?
To create and to control are two different things, My child.
June 10th, 2009 at 11:57 amOkay, time to institute the Freeze plan on G o G.
This one has nothing to contribute and is simply looking to amuse itself.
Second?
June 10th, 2009 at 12:02 pmHere we go again with the God Guy. I Second ralph.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:03 pmDoes that sound reasonable?
No, not in the least.
Interacting with persons whose sole intent is to disrupt is to become an accomplice to their method.
If you truly feel the need to “bash” someone, grow a pair, get off the computer and do something with concrete meaning.
Otherwise, you’re all contributing mightily to the “suck-i-fi-cation” of the TP blog.
It truly sucks donkey balls as of late, with so much emphasis and commentary of FCUKING TROLLS.
The fate of TP is in your hands. And based on that, the future doesn’t look very bright.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:08 pmwindancer @#103 is right. It is not great that Palau is taking these “dangerous terrorists”. They are being bribed to the tune of $12 million each for temporarily taking some people who are quite possibly innocent. That is wonderful of them? Rachel Maddow said her show would gladly take two for $23 million. I bid $11 million!
Reminds me of the beginning of the Iraq invasion when a reporter asked the leader of Palau what his country was doing as part of the “Coalition of the Willing”. He could not come up with an answer.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:08 pm- Just answer “A Liar”, and you’ll never be wrong.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:08 pmI agree, time to freeze out the clown god.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:10 pmThird, Ralph. But it’s going to be hard.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:12 pmHey – is this that same God who can’t spell solipsism??
My hopes for the deity were so much higher.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:13 pmC4P, I was instantly banned for life my first post at freeRepublic. I said they should not support Jeff Gannon because there was proof he was a m4m prostitute.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:19 pmc4p, your version of history does not explain why Clinton’s job creation was ten times Dubya’s.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:20 pmNo shit.
If you read over what i posted, that’s pretty much what I said.
But I made the distinction that those who appear to try to address the topic, however lame or stupid their ideas may be, should be rebutted.
Otherwise you’re just turning TP into the lefty equivalent of Red State, where dissenting voices are not even allowed.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pmRepublicans are the old mean White Men club.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:23 pmYou should have been around here long enough to know that TOP doesn’t moderate stuff based on its level of dissent.
You must have had a “no no” word or phrase in your posts, or more likely, in the name of one of the links.
But I didn’t ask you for any links. I simply asked you to clarify what you were saying.
Specifically, are you willing to make a case that the Democrats taking control of Congress and a majority of governorships somehow led to the Second Bush Recession?
Are you implying correlation implies causality in this case?
June 10th, 2009 at 12:24 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
This is odd. A few of you, including RantingTommy asked for links and facts to support my assertion that the Democratic party is to blame (or shares some blame) for the recession. I have tried twice to post 7 links to support my assertion, but each time, my post is “awaiting moderation.” Why do Liberals demand support but then block any attempt for anyone with a dissenting opiinion to acutally provide it?
Sure, sure, we all have the power to block your comments. You just don’t have the secret liberal magic code.
What a dolt.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:34 pmGod of Gods Says:
God of Gods,
I have heard some who profess to believe in you distinguish abortion from miscarriages. They say abortion is wrong because it is a human choice to kill a baby. They say miscarriages are ok, because You take the baby. I’d like to know, why do you kill unborn babies?
I have no hand in the miscarriage of unborn children, My child. That is the biology of woman which ultimately decides that. Those people are incorrect in their assumptions.
It is only murder in My eyes when the child has gained a soul – which normally is between the 5th and 6th month, when the soul manages to reach the unborn fetus – and there is no sensible reason to have aborted – to give an known example, the boy who was Connor Petersen was clearly murdered. A woman who aborted because it would have otherwise killed her and the child, or being born would have considerably hurt the child, is not murder. In any case, the souls of those unborn children will always return to Me.
I hope I have answered your question.
I’m actually finding this discussion quite interesting, though others have noted they have become bored by it. I also think it’s kind of funny that a few seem to “wonder” is God really is speaking on this board…which I think is hilarious.
But back to God of Gods – your statement that miscarriage is ultimately due to the biology of the mother isn’t quite correct. About 50% of all miscarriages are the result of errors during the gene recombination of both the mother and father’s chromosomes, in which important genetic information is lost and the fetus has abnormal chromosomes which would make continuing viability an impossibility. Many of the other causes are unknown, but there seem to be some relevant factors like age of the mother, smoking, poorly managed diabetes and so forth. And miscarriage is very common, estimated to be 1 in 4 or 1 in 3 pregnancies. As for God “causing” miscarriages, that ties into a belief system that also believes God causes a variety of human-caused injuries and deaths (car accidents, war, etc.) and “Acts of God” such as hurricanes and so forth. The latter so that insurance companies don’t have to pay claims (ha, ha).
Regarding Connor Peterson – he doesn’t fit into an “abortion” concept since his death was the result of his mother’s murder. I would agree with you that late-term abortions for the reasons you cited above would not be murder. They are a tragedy, however, for sure.
Also the concept that the soul indwells the fetus at 5 or six months is one of many. There are many cultures that believe the soul doesn’t inhabit the baby until birth. Others that it doesn’t happen until the child is one-year-old. Since you are clearly not “really” God, your ideas are as valid or invalid as the rest of us. The truth is that no one knows, since the existence of a soul cannot be scientifically measured nor proven. I personally believe in the soul, but am quite aware that I nor anyone else can ever “prove” it exists….any more than the existence of God will ever be scientifically proven. From my own experiences, I believe that’s a fact. But I could be wrong.
The only problem I have with the “religious” is that too often it’s only human ego acting out, with the desire for power and control over others. Those people need to be ignored and made as irrelevant as they truly are. For instance, when I hear so-called “Christians” support wars, torture, disregard of the poor and needy, etc. etc. etc. I recognize them for what they are doing. Taking God’s name in vain.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:34 pmThe Moderate Squad Says:
Why is it that when a low-income person goes to a public clinic, it’s called an abortion, but when the money has their private physician do it it’s “only” a D&C?
Actually I bet they call it a ‘procedure’.
And I bet most of their physicians find a way to have their insurance companies pay for it by calling it a a biopsy or something. But then again, I’ve become quite cynical.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:37 pmwinddancer, as you suspect, we were humoring a self-important troll, not “wondering” if God was really speaking. I take it that this understanding is why you put “wondering” in quotes.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:39 pmExodus 20:7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:45 pm“Despite claims by critics that the TARP plan would be a money loser, when 10 banks returned $68 billion of the money yesterday, President Obama said the government had realized a small profit. According to McClatchy,”in addition to returning the $68 billion, the 10 banks paid the government $1.8 billion in dividends on the preferred shares of stock the government owned.”
Ummm, First of all, the jury is still out on the “profitability” of the TARP program. These were the more sound of the TARP banks. (And they are only in the relatively good condition they are because of trillions of dollars fo FDIC loan guarantees and asset purchases.) Losses on the remaining banks could still easily swamp the profit we’ve made to date.
Besides, I didn’t realize that the TARP funds were simply an investment. The question should be whether the larger goals were accomplished. On one level, it appears we’ve avoided a financial calamity – at least, for now. But the financial sector is still a major drag on the overall economy and does anyone really think these banks will be fine if economic conditions resume their decline?
At any rate, it still is nowhere near clear -and may never be – that this was a superior option to taking the worst 2-3 banks into receivership.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:53 pmAccording to a USA Today/Gallup Poll, most people don’t know who speaks for the Republican Party
Does it make any difference who is actually “speaking for the Republican Party”? They all cater to their base aka the American Taliban.
Their rants are almost the same -albeit some use better, more educated English: Muslims are evil, Hispanics and Blacks are dumb and/or lazy, women should stay barefoot and pregnant, gays are a threat to civilization, and white men are being oppressed by them mean minorities.
But if I had to pick one, I’d say it’s Limbaugh -he says exactly what conservatives think.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm“when asked to specify “the main person” who speaks for Republicans today.”
The problem is that you guys are walking right into an embarrassing position when the Republicans realize that they could spin this as: “well, we don’t need a ‘messiah’ to lead us like the Democrats do”… (even though they had their “Bush”, they’re not exactly known for being consistent with their principles at this point.)
My point is that we should stick to the important stuff, that’s all.
June 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pmOne trait this old troll with a new name shares with the “real” god is that neither of them have gotten laid in the past 2000 years…
June 10th, 2009 at 1:04 pmwinddancer Says:
Nice post @140.
However, while the general content of the ‘discussion’ may be interesting, the poster godofgods has a limited understanding of theology, evidenced by the content of the posts. It appears that the poster is of one of the christian persuasions, though that is inference on my part, and if that is the case, the content offered, again, shows a lack of in-depth theological knowledge.
The troll godofgods is not attempting to advance conversation — it is clearly “amusing itself” at the expense of this blog, while not engaging in any level of intellectual discourse.
So — while the general topics may not be boring, the person posting them IS, and the approach is a tiresome waste of time, particularly in light that the troll speaks within the posts “as god”. The flippancy of this approach can only be interpreted as a completley frivilous level of posting, and thus not productive to conversation.
That, or the person is in serious need of mental assistance, as the poster believes himself to BE “god”.
Either way, not worth your time or intellect, really.
just sayin’.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:05 pmwatchdog Says:
Where is poll for the same question flipped around?
That is actually a fair question.
Have a milkbone.
Now, go find the answer yourself, little fella.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:09 pmwatchpup is concerned because he can’t figure out how to spin an embarrassing poll, so he demands that the polling organization provide him with the proper spin direction via another poll.
maybe that one will be more spinnable, eh, watchpup?
Good dog.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:10 pmI strongly suspect that if the question were “flipped around” — and since watchpuppy doesn’t specify, I’ll presume that he meant the same question asked about the Democratic Party — my guess is that more than 80% would say “President Obama”.
So that wouldn’t help him any.
Of course, one could surmise that by “flipped around”, watchpuppy means “what party does Rush Limbaugh speak for” which would probably elicit a near unanimous response.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:14 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
winddancer, as you suspect, we were humoring a self-important troll, not “wondering” if God was really speaking. I take it that this understanding is why you put “wondering” in quotes.
I suppose so. Open to interpretation. Just like whether or not God of Gods IS a troll. For instance, I don’t put him/her into that category. At least not with this definition: “In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.” I think that definition fits Conservative for Progress and Watchdog, for instance, and many others we’ve seen come and go on this board. But unfortunately I’ve also sometimes seen regular, progressive posters accused of being a troll when they express opinions that are outside the mainstream of the larger TP community. After all, closed minds and judgemental behavior toward others is something the right-wing does; I’d like to see us not be so quick to do so ourselves.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:24 pmCageyCretin Says #148 – this is a good point, however. I don’t disagree with it.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:27 pmI agree, winddancer. The “troll” label gets overused. I try to use it with some specificity, and I do consider GoG among that tribe, as it doesn’t really seem interested in anything beyond amusing itself.
That doesn’t preclude the possibility that sometime a troll posts, when taken seriously could not spark an interesting discussion. But it does mean that it’s not the intent, and only happens by accident.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:30 pmwatchdog Says:
“Where is poll for the same question flipped around?”
The result of that poll resides in the Whitehouse…
June 10th, 2009 at 1:30 pmwinddancer Says:
CageyCretin Says #148 – this is a good point, however. I don’t disagree with it.
Although I have to point out (my personal opinion) that strings about Steve Doocey’s son being hired by Fox News or Arlen Spector’s “tweets” more closely meet your statement “not worth your time or intellect, really,” since both the string and the dicussions they elicit are far from “intellectual fare.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:35 pmI gotta call BULL $HIT on Pee’s accusation that his links are being moderated.
With a simple google, I found this joke of a blog, claiming the Democrats started the recession.
I debated whether or not to post the link, due to it’s potential for increased traffic, but it is such a joke of a blog, I gotta believe it’s content is similar to the Onion.
June 10th, 2009 at 1:52 pm(My apologies in advance for the naked statues of Mr. And Mrs. Rush “Oxybreath” Limbaugh pictured there. For the faint of heart, may I recommend not viewing the left side of the site)
ConservativeForProgress Says:
Xisithrus Says:
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The recession started in December 2007
June 10th, 2009 at 10:13 am
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Yep. 11 months after the Democrats took over the House, Nanci Pelosi became Speaker of the House, the Democrats secured a 51-49 majority in the Senate (including the two “Independents” who caucused with them), and Democrats won a majority of Governorships. Remember how well the economy was doing before then?
Actually, the economy really tanked when Bush took office. Around here anyway.
June 10th, 2009 at 7:17 pmTen banks payed us back with interest. Yippee. I saw the housing bubble coming years in advance and was wondering where all those people advertising to buy mortgage debt were going to end up.
I feel like we’ve dodged a bullet. Many people are suffering unemployment and insecurity right now, but I trust the economy will get stronger. Not surprising that the NYT is suddenly concerned about the deficit, but PISH, really.
Let’s make sure that Democrats stay in charge. They need a lot of work on foreign policy, but domestically, they are the difference between a struggle and hitting bottom.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:54 pm