What Obama said in that quote is, honestly, begging to be taken out of context; it was his way of saying “no” by saying “yes, where by ‘yes’ I mean ‘no’” and conveniently leaving out the explanatory bit after the “yes”. Liz Cheney may have missed on the facts, but she was right on in her assessment of content. Now what she needs is a good challenge, because exceptionalism of any kind is utterly wrong.

uhhhh, American exceptionalism is a good thing?

In a Special Olympics kind of way…

So, love your country, be proud of America’s many achievements and positive influences, but let’s not be dumb.

Yea!!! The “exceptionalism” game…
… Let’s play!

Of course it’s not torture when America does it…
Of course it’s not WMD’s when America uses them…
Of course it’s not wars of aggression when America does it…
Of course it’s not violating international Laws when America does it…
Of course it’s not terrorism when America does it…
Of course it’s not Fascism when it’s America…

Did I play it right?

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Patriotism is the state of loving, preferring, and taking pride in the nation in which one was born and/or makes one’s home while still being able to recognize that other countries matter and have something worthwhile to contribute — also that any country or society comprised of human beings, including one’s own, will invariably be imperfect and have its share of faults and problems which should be acknowledged and (if possible) changed. Obama, to my way of thinking, is a patriot.

By contrast, nationalism is the state of believing that the country in which one lives and/or makes one’s home is infinitely superior to any other (sometimes for no other reason than the fact he/she was born or lives there) and that other countries don’t matter and/or have nothing of any real value or worth to contribute. The nationalist is often quick to mock, criticize, or condemn the faults or foibles of other countries and peoples while at the same time loath in the extreme to acknowledge the faults or foibles of his/her own country — in fact, the nationalist will often carry this to the extreme of excusing anything and everything which his/her own country does yet hypocritically condemn other countries for doing the very same things. It seems to me that Liz Cheney, her father, and indeed most of the former members of the Bush administration (or at least the inner circle) are dyed-in-the-wool nationalists.

Who the fuk is liz cheney? And what are the credentials or experience she possesses that makes her somebody the so-called “news media” needs to keep presenting to the American Public.

I think she made coffee in the state department for a couple of months.

MY COMMENT: I’m beginning to question my opposition to capital punishment!

My off-the-cuff jugement is that the republicans are planning on putting her out for public office – probably Congress – during the next election cycle. This is their way of creating public name recognition for her to give her a better chance of capturing a seat. In other words, this is nothing more than an advertising campaign to create a popular commodity.

Since that’s the case, who is funding her appearances? And shouldn’t campaign contribution regulations be in effect here???

As to what she had to say:
“I think that we have a core set of values that are enshrined in our Constitution, in our body of law, in our democratic practices, in our belief in free speech and equality, that, though imperfect, are exceptional.”

Yes, we do have a core set of values and law based in the Constitution. These proscribe specific punishments for public officials that violate our laws and the Public trust. Is liz cheney coming out and declaring her daddy needs to be delivered to the Hague to be tried for the War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity he committed? Let alone all the other laws he broke and all the public funds he helped his buddies steal.

what the hell is “American exceptionalism”?

I’m serious-I have NO idea what this means. Help???