O’Reilly Ignores Holocaust Museum Shooting, Wonders Whether It’s Even ‘Newsworthy’
O’Reilly Ignores Holocaust Museum Shooting, Wonders Whether It’s Even ‘Newsworthy’
Last week, Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly went on a tirade against CNN for supposedly failing to cover the shooting of Pvt. William Long, an Army recruiter in Arkansas. Of course, O’Reilly’s claims were blatantly false — but that didn’t stop him from claiming to be “shocked” that he “can’t find any information about” the shooting in the mainstream media.
Exactly one week later, after a white supremacist shot and killed a security guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC, O’Reilly never covered the shooting on his show. In fact, the only mention of the act of domestic terrorism came in a segment that, ironically, decried the media’s inadequate coverage of Long’s death:
O’REILLY: But the central question remains according to a new Pew study, the American media spent far more time on the murder of Tiller than on the murder of Private Long. … 10 to 1 the Pew study which was released yesterday, 10 to 1 more coverage. I mean, come on, come on.
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O’REILLY: All right. Now, we had a murder today at the Holocaust Museum in D.C.
HENICAN: That was an awful case. Awful.
O’REILLY: Now, this is an 89-year-old anti-Semite bigot kills an innocent guy in the Holocaust Museum. OK? Now, what about the newsworthiness of this? … Is it as newsworthy as Private Long?
Watch it:
Sean Hannity, whose show follows O’Reilly’s, never once mentioned the Holocaust Museum shooting — though he did discuss Miss California’s firing and played host to Newt Gingrich, Ann Coulter, and a star of “Miami Ink.”
O’Reilly slammed Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson for having “ignored” Long’s murder, which he said was an ideological decision:
O’REILLY: Look, Katie Couric didn’t cover Private Long. Charles Gibson ignored Private Long. Ignored it. Didn’t — didn’t say a word about it. … It’s a news decision, and our news decision is based on what is important. Their news decision is based on ideology.
If O’Reilly bases his coverage “on what is important” and not ideology, why did he fail to “say a word about” the single largest news story of the day?
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I don’t think that counts as an alibi, Mr. O’Manson.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:23 pmOf course, Little Billy ignored he museum shooting.
Self-appraisal is for wimps as far as he’s concerned and commenting upon this incident would require him to address the role of hate- and fear-mongerers such as him in it.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:25 pmYou can run, Billo but you can’t hide from the tape archives.
Still have the number of that lawyer who bailed you out last time?
June 11th, 2009 at 12:26 pmBecause He’s a hypocritical tool who inspires reightwing nuts to do these kinds of things…
June 11th, 2009 at 12:28 pmThe falafel sexual predator pervert Bill O and the rest of the hate spewing bigots and propagandists at Fox Propaganda will ignore this because it is one of their own, and they know that the Shooter represents their audience.
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
June 11th, 2009 at 12:28 pmShorter Bildo: It’s only newsworthy if it’s a murder of which I secretly approve.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:29 pmThe F.C.C. should take away the license of Fox News.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pmF uck you, Bildo, you racist waste of skin.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pmIf he’s talking about why he’s not talking about it, he’s still talking about it. The only difference is what he’s saying: “ignore this, sweep it under the rug, nothing to see here.” That’s a baaad position to take on this sort of thing.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:31 pmUnabashed hypocrisy….
June 11th, 2009 at 12:31 pmWell that is something he and Morning Joe have in common, that’s unless the act was committed by muslin, or a Muslim from the Middle East that is.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:31 pmWell, the fact that Bildo and Hannity ignored the shooting kind of rips a big whole in the thin, frayed see-through fabric of Pee’s claim that the shooter was “a leftist”.
If the shooter really WERE a leftist, O’Lielly would be all over it like white on rice.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:32 pmExpecting rationality or small grains of truth out of Billdo’s show is akin to wishing on an evening star; pure fallacy.
Remember, Billdo’s prior experience was hosting the TV tabloid ‘Inside Edition’, forerunner to Fox News.
He wasn’t very good at that.
He isn’t very good at what he does now.
And he isn’t going to get any better.
Some career, Billdo. Something you can forever be ashamed of.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:32 pmLook, over there Bill-O, that guy is not wearing a flag lapel pin!!
Oh, wait, its Rove. Move along folks.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:33 pmOr encouraged…28 times…
June 11th, 2009 at 12:34 pmLook, Bill O’Reilly is sick. OK? Now, have some sympathy. Sympathy. I mean, come on, come on. The man cannot help being the sick, perverted, evil, lying bastard that he is. Cannot help it. He cannot stop being who he is, OK? Is he ever going to tell the truth or doing something admirable? Look, of course not. Of course not. Now what about the newsworthiness of his latest verbal diarrhea…Is his verbal diarrhea newsworthy?
/snark off
June 11th, 2009 at 12:35 pmHow much time did Bill O’reilly spend talking about Pvt. Long prior to his murder compared to Dr. Tiller prior to his?
June 11th, 2009 at 12:35 pmBillo says ‘So what some nut killed some guy in DC, no biggie. What about the nut who killed a guy in Arkansas?”
Or Kansas.
Or Pittsburgh.
Or Alabama.
Seems the domestic terrorists are racking up a much bigger score.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:36 pmO’REILLY: It’s a news decision, and our news decision is based on what is important. Their news decision is based on ideology.
Making up the term “terrorist fist bump” and trying to make it come across as a concern and issue because you don’t like the pair who performed it , is “news” ?
Since when ?
June 11th, 2009 at 12:37 pmWhen it comes to Fox its only newsworthy if the guy’s last name is of Muslim/Arab origin
June 11th, 2009 at 12:38 pmOkay, let’s see. Racist, anti-Semite with a long history of hatred which eerily mirrors (in substance if not degree) some of the ideas that the right wing has been tacitly embracing storms in the Holocaust Museum in our Nation’s Capital and opens fire, killing a security guard as he heroically tried to stop this from becoming even more of a horrific terrorist act…
Yeah, nothing to see here.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:40 pmMove along…..
Hey, these idiots were itching for the shooter to be a Muslim. It doesn’t matter to them that the shooting itself took place (except in the sense that they defend the DHS criticism or try to say this was the act of a rainbow lefty (HA!)). I don’t see how the party of no can act surprised — they refuse to consider any regulatory activity within the 2nd Amendment out of “freedom of expression.”
June 11th, 2009 at 12:40 pmLet’s see… He went on and on for days about the recruiter getting shot, and the Guard gets barely a mention. Maybe Billo realizes his own rhetoric may be getting out of control. But then again, I don’t think Billo has a conscience.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:40 pmO’REILLY: It’s a news decision, and our news decision is based on an alternate reality ideology. Their news decision is based on ideology.
Thats better…
June 11th, 2009 at 12:41 pmpastcaring Says:
Zooey Says:
Shorter Bildo: It’s only newsworthy if it’s a murder of which I secretly approve.
Or encouraged…28 times…
June 11th, 2009 at 12:34 p
Or after which he can engage in endless self-congratulatory, self-aggrandizement while issuing his denials of responsibility.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:41 pmTo Bildo the only murder newsworthy is the one committed by a black Muslim against a white man. The two murders committed by white men should be ignored.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:41 pmO’Reilly, in his prickish obstinacy, is possibly creating a powerful enemy. What does Abe Foxman of the ADL think about the number one cable news show ignoring an attack on the Holocaust Museum in our Nation’s Capital?
June 11th, 2009 at 12:41 pmEven better..
June 11th, 2009 at 12:42 pmThis is collective acting out like I’ve never seen among people who simply lost an election. They spout about democracy and political freedoms ala Reagan, contradictory to all the revenge they seek to gain on the same people who duly elected a president of the opposite party. The domestic groups are arming themselves because they can’t have their “permanent Republican majority.”
They project their fears of one-party-rule because that’s exactly what they wanted for themselves and couldn’t achieve it.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:46 pmIt’s time Bill starts wearing the white robe and hood so he can relate to audience a little better.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:46 pmI thought they would cover the story, but “mistakenly” put a (D) next to von Brunn’s name.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:48 pmO’Reilly is NEVER going to do or say the right thing. He is a sociopathic, egomaniacial liar. A complete and utter reprobate. Unredeemable on every level. If he hasn’t seen the error of his ways by now, he never will. He doesn’t even deserve your contempt.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:51 pmOf course BO and Hannity didn’t cover the horrific shooting yesterday. That was a given even before their shows were to air. That whole network in an afront to anything intelligent or rational or factual.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:52 pmAll the time they accused networks of not kowtowing to their coverage demands could have been spent, you know, covering the act of domestic terrorism themselves. Why, Fox, did you skip a live conference with the surviving soldier?
June 11th, 2009 at 12:52 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
To Bildo the only murder newsworthy is the one committed by a black Muslim against a white man. The two murders committed by white men should be ignored.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
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Two white nationalists, no less. Scott Roeder was a member of the Freemen in the 1990s.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:53 pm“why did he fail to “say a word about” the single largest news story of the day?”
Unfortunately I can’t help but feel that there will be more incidents of domestic terrorism from the far right. They feel isolated like cornered rats in a Nation that has moved beyond their ideology of hate and fear (our trolls are a prime example). They are well aware that their numbers are dwindling and feel compelled to act on the many and varied calls from the right-wing media AND UNSCRUPULOUS DIVISIVE POLITICIANS to action against what they perceive as a country that shuns their warped ideology and has grown weary of the “Chicken Little” fear tactics that we as a Nation have fallen victim to all too often during the past Administration. As more tragedies like this occur (and I hope I am wrong)it will become more difficult for the hate and fear mongers over at Rupert’s Propaganda Outlet, as well as politician’s that are all too anxious to foment this hate, to ignore their growing responsibility for abetting in these agregeous acts. The media relies on their calling themselves “entertainers” in order to prop up their self-denial while they prey on the insecurities and fears of the twisted, conspiracy believing right wingnuts to the point where the more unstable of their audience (and that’s a sizable number unfortunately)acts on their suggestions. Then they feign surprise that anyone took their hateful words seriously. The politicians are worse in my opinion. In my eye they are more culpable than the media “entertainers” and pundits as they are SUPPOSED to be the voice of reason and are in a position to put out the fires that are flairing up. They choose instead to fan those flames and further aggravate an allready unstable section of their base. I don’t know what the answer is but I sure as hell have a firm idea as to what is a large part of the problem. Bill O’Reilly is a self serving sniveling fear monger who preys on the right’s base fears like a hungry hyena. He deserves all the derision he receives and then some for being the trigger that helps set off these nuts.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:53 pmyesterdays murder is of course just as newsworthy as the death of william long.
all of these stories are newsworthy.
the discrepancy in coverage is very simple to explain. dr. tiler was known on a national level prior to his death. because of his prominence the story drew more attention and more coverage.
William Long and Stephen Johns were both anonymous in the eyes of the national media prior to their deaths, so there simply was not as much to report on them.
their deaths are just as tragic and sad. personally, i think Will Long might be the biggest tragedy here as he was 22 years old… terrible, just terrible.
i don’t understand why bill o’reilly would decide that the death of Stephen Johns is not newsworthy…
well maybe i do… its because he’s a miserable human being.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:54 pmIf there was a shooting at a Hooters, the Factor would have a two-hour special.
Heck, Papa Bear would even leave the comforts of his studio to do some old-fashioned field reporting.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:54 pmSean Hannity, whose show follows O’Reilly’s, never once mentioned the Holocaust Museum shooting — though he did discuss Miss California’s firing and played host to Newt Gingrich, Ann Coulter, and a star of “Miami Ink.”
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in the alternate reality of
“fox news” miss california
is very important.
:|
June 11th, 2009 at 12:55 pmO’Really? wonders why a racist shooting a negro is news.
Maybe he thought it should have been a human interest story? Man bites dog.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:56 pmThe news is the killer is a right wing lunatic like you, BillO!
June 11th, 2009 at 12:57 pmThere’s only one solution, folks: Bring back the Fairness Doctrine.
And: Apply it to the cable outlets and satellite providers, too. They’re using public easements AND our airwaves, respectively. It would require change, and not just re-implementing an old and very sensible policy that was junked under Reagan.
Change. I seem to recall some talk about that not so long ago.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:58 pmIs it as newsworthy as Private Long?
Why not? O’Reilly can only be bothered to pronounce this news is not nearly as important, without ever explaining why he thinks so.
Of course, I suspect this has to do with the fact Pvt. Long’s shooter was Muslim and O’Reilly is busy rallying his followers against the Muslim “threat”. What a moron.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:58 pmThey will ignore this because if they actually reported on it, it would spotlight the need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.
And run them all right out of business.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:00 pmI’m glad this person of despicable character is drawing serious attention for his misrepresentations and now for his actual, ingrained prejudices (previously demonstrated in his remarks about black behavior in restaurants, and now his obviously deep-rooted anti-semitism as shown by his “freudian” slip of overlooking the murder at the Holocaust museum).
Perhaps it’s because Olbermann also finally took him really seriously and stopped joking about O’Reilly that his salient character deficiencies can nowbe taken on by others in reporting on him.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:00 pmAnyone who politicizes murder like FOX News is an accessory to the crime.
Put them all in jail.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:03 pmIn all fairness to Hannity, Carrie Prejean is the front runner for the Republican Presidential nomination in 2012.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:05 pmAnd Bildo couldn’t even bother to identify yesterdays victim.
While elevating Private Long to superstar status because he was in the military the security guard who had served 10 years at his position doesn’t even get credited for the position he held or the fact that security prevented a worse disaster.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:05 pmThe frustration by a lot of people on the right about the Private Long story not being as big as the Tiller or most recent shooting makes no rational sense to me. In light of the fact that we are invading, bombing, and continuously subjecting other sovereign countries to our will to deal with Islamic fundamentalist terrorism, and that there is a public consensus to do so is the objective fact.
I think the frustration really stems from the implications of a lot of rightwing pundit rhetoric in light of the Tiller and Von Brunn. They’re stirring up the rightbase to concentrate on the smokescreen: the maintenance of fearmongering against Islam as the REAL issue and enemy. I think it’s a distraction (and people opting to not deal themselves) from some very unsettling implications of fringe rightwing ideology.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:06 pmAfter the battering that Pee suffered this morning, it looks like Troll Central is giving their boys some R n’ R.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:09 pmIf O’Reilly bases his coverage “on what is important” and not ideology, why did he fail to “say a word about” the single largest news story of the day?
Look, America’s Newsroom simply reflected what real Americans(tm) wanted hear, that Carrie Prejean is the greatest victim of all humankind. There’s a reason I didn’t place a /snark after my comment that Fox would take up Prejean’s dismissal as their feature story — she’ll be anchoring America’s Newsroom with the other leggy females sooner or later.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:12 pmI think they are laying low during the FBI investigation of their right-wing terrorist blog cells.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:12 pmI disagree. The fairness doctrine far outlived its usefulness and wouldn’t even really apply in this situation. The shooting isn’t really a ‘controversial issue’ so it doesn’t fall in scope. O’Reilly is being a complete DB, but this isn’t a public policy issue he’s being a DB about.
Also, this isn’t the 70s where people had access to 3 television stations and newspapers. You can find news about absolutely ANYTHING with a quick google news search.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:14 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
After the battering that Pee suffered this morning, it looks like Troll Central is giving their boys some R n’ R.
Hi ralph. It’s a process called Regroup, Regurgitate, and Retreat.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:14 pmNot until Donald Trump is done using her as his sex toy.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:15 pmYeah, why is this even news? Now had it been an Irish security guard at the Intelligent Design museum who was shot by an anti-Christian liberal, or better yet, a Muslim, that would be newsworthy.
BillO’s hypocracy knows no bounds.
PEACE
June 11th, 2009 at 1:19 pmJeffboste: flagged for spamming
June 11th, 2009 at 1:20 pmTrolls:
Your number one-rated cable news program ignored the biggest news story of the day, because it’s petty host is having a hissy fit over being implicated in a previous story.
Do you still want to argue that ratings measure the quality of a show?
June 11th, 2009 at 1:20 pmI have a challenge for Mr. O’Reilly and any of his fans:
1) Have someone take the newspaper clippings from the Holocaust Museum’s top floor (”the Rise to Power”), then translate them into English and remove all specific references (places, persons, events).
2) Do the same with transcripts of almost any of the current crop of right-wing American demagogues.
3) Mix these together randomly, and then try to sort them into the original piles.
I’ll bet a major organ that no one can do it. The rhetoric is identical.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pmI tend to agree about the Fairness Doctrine, deebaser. This is a changed playing field, and I think real change in media diversity will only occur once we re-regulate a ridiculously monopolized industry, where there is no diversity of thought because three rich white guys own everything, and apparently we’re subject to what they believe is important.
The Fairness Doctrine is good in theory, but I’d rather see real progressive media come about from a general consensus by the public that media ownership is best when broken up as much as possible. I don’t want special legislation to force diversity, I want generally agreed legislation by all parties in order to decrease divisiveness stirred up by these pundits.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pmThe troll are having a hissy fit over being implicated in this story.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:22 pmIn O’Reilly’s world, only Muslims are terrorists. So whenever a non-Muslim (especially a homegrown American) commits an act of terrorism, it doesn’t register on his radar.
This is how he and his ilk can manage to claim that we haven’t had any “terrorist acts on American soil since 9/11″ and keep a straight face.
There have been three recent shootings where the alleged perpetrator was motivated by hatred and a political agenda (possibly more, but three that made national news). In all three cases, the shooter wanted to make a violent statement and wanted to inspire terror. All were acts of terrorism.
But only in one of the three cases was the alleged shooter a Muslim, so naturally, that’s the one O’Reilly zeroed in on.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:22 pmThe F.C.C. should take away the license of Fox News.
June 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
They don’t have a license. Being that they’re on c able, no license is necessary to operate. That’s why they can say (and or show) anything they want…And the only way to discipline them is through their advertisers…
Don’t forget: there is no such thing asa “bad publicity.”
June 11th, 2009 at 1:23 pmRealness says: …I think real change in media diversity will only occur once we re-regulate a ridiculously monopolized industry.
Nagahapun…
the big media Corpos are spinning off their print properties as fast as they can, but they’re all holding on to electronic/irt outlets.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:26 pmThat is okay BillO: We he people know the truth. You can hide with your mental midget audience but the majority of Americans who elected Barack Obama to be your President for the next eight years, know that you are a hateful bigot who lies and spews hate. I know this and quit ever tuning into FAUX over five years ago.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:27 pmeven better: a Pro-Science guy, with a freaking laser!
June 11th, 2009 at 1:30 pm…
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[This is a serious topic. i have no class. :( ]
yeah, Tokin. But stranger things have happened with public pressure. Besides, the whole thing might be moot anyway, as people move towards the internet for diversity of news sources.
that’s why we still need to watch carefully as people try to regulate the internet.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:33 pmI think many will see this as race baiting, but I think this blogger may be on to something.
Read the this post below, and you will see, that Fox is racist when it comes to what stories they highlight.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=1714
I really think this idea of Fox and their coverage needs to start getting out in the mainstream
June 11th, 2009 at 1:33 pmWhat a surprise that O’Reilly does not want to talk about the shooting. It does not fit with his political viewpoint. Does he think that his viewers are that ignorant that they will gloss over this story?
June 11th, 2009 at 1:36 pmWhen a black guy’s shot, to O’Reilly, it’s not newsworthy. End of story.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:37 pmi’m very leary when people start talking about the fairness doctrine.
certainly our media is biased towards the right and it would be nice if coverage was more fair.
but
we live in a country where a significant portion of our population accepts without question the existence of the “liberal media” so i fear what might come from the fairness doctrine being implemented
we might find that the implementation of it could skew things further to the right because the people who run our country operate in a world of rhetoric rather than a world of facts.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pmCalavzma,
I agree! I think that’s why it can reach both sides of the aisles, and get some bi-partisan consensus on the re-regulation of the media! Since the right complains of a “liberal” media (which we know to be BS) and we know the case to be a right-slanted corporate media, perhaps we could come together to push for more ownership diversity. Everyone can get behind, because we all have our grievances.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:47 pmIs it as newsworthy as Private Long?
Aren’t all acts of domestic terrorism newsworthy? Or just some of them? Why would we need to compare them?
June 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pmInteresting. So the “pro-life” champion BillO doesn’t care at all when an adult person is killed. Got it. Waiting for the shock to catch up to me.
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Still waiting….
June 11th, 2009 at 1:51 pmZooey (#8, 12:30 P.M.)Says:
I don’t know, Zooey, have you seen O’Reilly’s make-up-free skin lately? Caught him being interviewed on some red carpet-like event and, without make-up, his skin looks like it came out of a toxic waste bin. Or perhaps it’s that toxic waste soul of his oozing through. Regardless, while he may have been a racist waste of skin long ago, now he has the skin he deserves, perfect for containing the racist waste he is.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:51 pmWho is Bill O’Reilly to decide what is and isn’t newsworthy? Who is he to decide what should and shouldn’t be covered – how, when, and how often – on other stations? He thinks he decides the information we, the little people, will be allowed to hear and what we will think about it. This can’t just be a massive ego. O’Reilly has to have a few mental screws loose as well. Seriously.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:51 pmLook, Katie Couric didn’t cover Private Long. Charles Gibson ignored Private Long. Ignored it. Didn’t — didn’t say a word about it…It’s a news decision, and our news decision is based on what is important. Their news decision is based on ideology.
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Has O’Reilly already forgotten that he made similar — and as it turns out, completely inaccurate and misleading — claims against CNN which drew comment and criticism from Rick Sanchez and for which he later delivered an (albeit very sulky, grudging, and probably insincere) apology? He was wrong then…so what reason does anyone have to conclude that he’s any less wrong now?
June 11th, 2009 at 1:54 pmOh, he knows so.
He’s built an entire career around that understanding.
June 11th, 2009 at 1:55 pmrealness,
perhaps we could come together to push for more ownership diversity. Everyone can get behind, because we all have our grievances.
i think that ownership diversity is indeed the key.
we can even sell it to the repubs as creating a more diverse free market… its capitalism at its best.
everyone can get behind that… right?
June 11th, 2009 at 1:57 pm…
from a note found in von brunn’s car:
“You want my weapons — this is how you’ll get them. The Holocaust is a lie. Obama was created by Jews. Obama does what his Jew owners tell him to do. Jews captured America’s money. Jews control the mass media.”
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sounds like a typical troll
comment here at tp, doesn’t it?
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h/t tpm
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June 11th, 2009 at 2:03 pmRepublican’s idea of diversity is old white men who wear different colored pants on the golf course.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:07 pmThe Fairness Doctrine is dead. What we need is to apply the same standards of the Truth in Advertising to everything broadcast, whether over open air or cable, in the US.
Claiming immunity because it is opinion is not a valid reason for being able to lie. Freedom of Speech does not include fabrication for convenience.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:07 pmO’punkishReilly I want to spit in your trashy nut job face.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:08 pmCan you imagine if the Factor was on in the 60’s?
So what?–a preacher gets shot in Memphis?
June 11th, 2009 at 2:10 pmOf course Billo ignores the shooting. This terrible, hateful and violent situation proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that these cretins are responsible for what they say. Billo and all the rest are going to be eventually held responsible for the hate speech that they spew. It’s just completely beyond any common sense that this man would say something so ridiculous and so profane in public.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:20 pmThis video clearly illustrates why I never watch billo. He and his cohorts stir up the base, watch the results, then diavow/ignore/refuse to respond to the direct result of their handiwork. Oh, and btw, Rupert, where aaarrrreeee you?
June 11th, 2009 at 2:22 pmIn O’Reilly’s world, only Muslims are terrorists. So whenever a non-Muslim (especially a homegrown American) commits an act of terrorism, it doesn’t register on his radar…[t]here have been three recent shootings where the alleged perpetrator was motivated by hatred and a political agenda (possibly more, but three that made national news). In all three cases, the shooter wanted to make a violent statement and wanted to inspire terror. All were acts of terrorism. But only in one of the three cases was the alleged shooter a Muslim, so naturally, that’s the one O’Reilly zeroed in on. — MissColeopteraMolly
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Hate to say it, MCM, but it ain’t just O’Reilly — it’s the mainstream media as well. What about William Krar, a man down in Texas about whom the Southern Poverty Law Center reported back in 2004 but whom the mainstream media almost completely ignored? Krar was found to have in his possession enough sodium cyanide to make a chemical weapon which reportedly could have killed hundreds or even thousands of people, everyone in a building the size of a college gymnasium — as well as 60 pipe bombs, additional remote-controlled bombs disguised as briefcases, assorted explosives and firearms including land mines and machine guns, and over five hundred thousand rounds of ammunition.
I think we all know that if Krar had been a Muslim, every single mainstream media outlet in the country (especially at that time) would have been all over this story like a cheap suit and there’s no doubt whatsoever that Krar would have been classified as a terrorist — perhaps even an “enemy combatant”, most likely meaning that every effort would have been made on the part of the Bush administration to deny him access to a lawyer and a fair trial even if he had US citizenship. (They did no less to Jose Padilla, after all, who is a US citizen). Krar was arrested, tried, convicted, and sentenced to prison — but how many Americans ever heard about him? Not that many, I would guess.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:29 pmWay to be stupid, Shrillo.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:39 pmjoe cantwell Says:
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from a note found in von brunn’s car:
“You want my weapons — this is how you’ll get them. The Holocaust is a lie. Obama was created by Jews. Obama does what his Jew owners tell him to do. Jews captured America’s money. Jews control the mass media.”
That’s an odd thing for a crazed left wing socialist to write, dontcha think?
June 11th, 2009 at 2:48 pmLet’s stop making O Reilly newsworthy, just like Olberman did. We know he’s a jerk and anything he says is a lie or stupid.
If your friends or family bring him up, just tell them to stop being idiots and watching the moron.
Enough.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:52 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
pags2 Says:
What a surprise that O’Reilly does not want to talk about the shooting. It does not fit with his political viewpoint. Does he think that his viewers are that ignorant that they will gloss over this story?
Oh, he knows so.
He’s built an entire career around that understanding.
I don’t think that everyone who watches Fox is stupid. There are many viewers that watch Fox, O’Reilly, Hannity, et al, because they want to hear people who have the same opinions. There are even people here who do not watch Fox and it makes no sense to have an opinion on something they are getting snippets from this site. I happen to tape O’Reilly and Hannity so that I can listen to their BS which helps me to point out the inconsistencies of their positions.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:55 pmI am sure everyone has their justification for what is newsworthy and what is not.
In my opinion, although very tragic, Private Long’s murder is not an indication of some systemic problem or groups advocating violence. It was one, very disturbed individual. If it is newsworthy, it is in examining it to see if there were any warning signs that could have helped to prevent it. Other than that, it is an EXTREMELY tragic death; however, there are thousands of tragic deaths everyday and we don’t report nationally on them.
The Tiller case and the Von Brunn case, on the other hand, are symptoms of a bigger problem that affects all of us. It is an issue of security and law enforcement. These aren’t just individual wackos going over the edge. Von Brunn might be, except it highlights regular threats and dangers at the Holocaust museum.
The Tiller case is an example of a VERY preventable crime. We are letting groups in this countr threaten, vandalize, and terrorize legitimate, law abiding citizens and tell them to “get used to it” instead of enforcing the law. The speech and actions go well beyond petitioning the government or even peaceful civil disobedience. If the FACE act had been enforced, doctor Tiller would still be alive. If groups were held accountable for infringing on women’s health clinic doctors and workers, they wouldn’t be so open about it. If we prosecuted those who give assistance (home phone numbers, addresses, locations), the violence would decrease.
These are the things I find more news worthy because the stories themselves highlight potential problems and help us find solutions.
Now to backtrack slightly, Private Long’s death does have some lessons, I am sure, but I believe it is more isolated than the groups that continue to harass abortion providers and hold his murderer up as a hero, or the anti-semitic groups whose aim is to continue to terrorize anyone who isn’t “Aryan”. That mentality only leads to more acts of violence.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:59 pmBy the way O’Reilly, 25 US military personnel were killed in Iraq Last month and 27 coalition (15 US) killed in Afghanistan. I haven’t heard anything about them recently. Aren’t they newsworthy. Oh yeah, no one wants to remember there is a cost to war. I haven’t heard O’Reilly complain, interview, or talk to the 82 military personnel that were wounded last month in Iraq.
But I guess the two wars we are involved in are not really newsworthy either.
June 11th, 2009 at 3:10 pmBill is in love with himself…Bill. He knows that everyone loves him like he loves him,too.
And no one who loves Bill like he loves Bill would ever question where he stands on an issue. Right or left…It is what ever stand Bill says it is when he says it and this is Bill love that only Bill and those who love Bill like he loves Bill understands.
So when Bill loves Bill late at night it’s easy to understand that Bill loves Bill with…either hand.
“F*#K It! I’ll Do It Live”
June 11th, 2009 at 3:13 pm“If O’Reilly bases his coverage “on what is important” and not ideology, why did he fail to “say a word about” the single largest news story of the day?”
Answer–Because he supports hate and angry white men who sputter without reason and humanity.
June 11th, 2009 at 3:15 pmThis is 0′Liely’s real “i didn’t do it” moment.
June 11th, 2009 at 3:42 pmIt’s a news decision, and our news decision is based on what is important.
Three posts up, O’Reilly’s giving coverage to gay penguins.
Let’s recap…
Racist murderer: not important.
Gay penguins: important!
Yeah, I think this guy is sending us messages from full-blown crazytown.
June 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pmThis event happened just yesterday, give it some more time for the story on this event to be covered by all the news stations. Besides we have to take a look at what crime was more violent here, and how the crime was carried out. The fact of the matter is, crimes against minorities like the Jewish are always covered by the MSM. Violent crimes like the crime against the army recruiter don’t happen as often and that’s probably why Bill O’Reilly covered it more. Not because he’s racist or anti-semetic. I say the most violent crime as in how it’s carried out should have more media attention than the other.
June 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pmSo going into a museum with the explicit intent to kill as many people as possible just because the museum was about the Holocaust (which, by the way, said shooter says is a hoax perpetrated by the ‘Jewish mass media’, the same people who ‘created’ Obama), the result being that one man was shot several times and killed, isn’t violent?
June 11th, 2009 at 3:56 pmEven when most of the people in the museum, aren’t even Jewish and the man who died was black? In fact, what does being Jewish have to do with the fact it was violent regardless of who the victim was?
How is it not newsworthy?
June 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pmO’Reilly is being disingenuous.
June 11th, 2009 at 4:38 pm… been gone all day… this is what i see when i open up:
Slain officer remembered as a ‘gentle giant’
CNN – ?58 minutes ago?
By Doug Gross (CNN) — After stints as a guard in the jails of Washington, DC, and on the streets of post-Katrina New Orleans, Stephen Tyrone Johns had settled in to a job he liked at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, family members said.
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how sad…
and i see there is finally an updated picture of the murderer.
saw that last night for only a glimpse, while that red-headed smirking guy kept being shown… he has aged as ugly as his soul.
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June 11th, 2009 at 5:10 pmI am waiting for Fox to claim that Brunn was a left winger.
June 11th, 2009 at 5:25 pmI guess it’s a testament to human intelligence that O’Lieley has to keep hammering in the stupid. If these Fox news viewers, who have Fox nattering on all day were to be deprived of Fox news for six weeks, the improvement in their mood would be off the charts, and the world would look rosier.
June 11th, 2009 at 6:21 pmAh, so now that the shooter has been outed exhaustively as a right winger, suddenly, its affiliation it’s not ‘newsworthy’. Hypocrite.
June 11th, 2009 at 6:24 pmSilly us for thinking Fox is a news channel.
June 11th, 2009 at 6:48 pmIt’s a propaganda channel.
When a right winger commits an atrocity, Fox
A) ignores it
B) Spins it to make the perpetrator into a leftie
Did anyone notice the segment with Amanda Carpenter and the Website that showed women holding up signs in front of there faces that read “I am Dr. Tiller.”?
June 11th, 2009 at 7:42 pmThey both agreed that if those women are so proud of getting an abortion “why do they hide behind the signs?”
Is he trying to get more people killed?
Is he going to post there photos, home addresses, church they attend, schools there children might attend, etc…?
My God, why isn’t someone arresting this man for “inciting violence?”
That kind of “free speech” is getting people killed and O’Reilly just keeps the throttle down and riles up as much hatred as he can.
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June 11th, 2009 at 8:19 pmWhat a buffoon. The Tiller murder was big news because it was the culmination of a long history of pro-choice/anti-choice conflict and violence against Tiller by anti-choicers. The story was really much bigger than just Tiller.
Yesterday’s shooting was big news because it happened on the National Mall in DC in the Holocaust Museum. It has as background a DHS report on post-election right wing extremism, which was major news, and it was the object of mountains of bile from the right wing.
The murder of the recruiter was certainly newsworthy, but it didn’t have the context which made it a big story. The victim wasn’t prominent, the location wasn’t prominent. If more than one person had been killed, the story would have been bigger, certainly.
June 11th, 2009 at 9:41 pmNobody can say anything anymore. Not with all of those Jews stopping them from talking to Obama. Your messiah is a fraud brought up in an anti-semetic house hold. Maybe the next time you can write a story that is actually news worthy, oh here is one look up the drive-by shooting that happened at a military recruiting depot in Arkansas. Where was the denunciation of the attack, oh yeah Obama was too busy sight seeing in Paris and ordering Senate to fix health-care….Our country is being run by cowards and idiots -there is a news story worth writing about. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves, I’ll give you a topic: think progress is neither about thinking or progressively making anything better in the world.
June 12th, 2009 at 12:57 amAnd for the record…A white guy with multiple divorces that sits alone in his basement typing into his computer about how much he hates everything isn’t a white supremacist, he is a person suffering from either schizophrenia or a delusional disorder because he is holding odd-beliefs that no one around him believes. White supremacists either go out and wear silly little robes hate catholics, blacks, jews, homosexuals, and Brown vs. Board of Education. The difference is that although they are both sickening thoughts the white supremacist isn’t psychotic because he can find other numskulls to hang out with, can mysteriously keep a wife, and can accomplish tasks other than typing into a computer.
June 12th, 2009 at 1:06 amFox News is bizarre. It’s like a big PsyOps organization.
June 12th, 2009 at 1:07 amJeffrey Hulsebos Says
You can say all kinds of things. For instance you said enough for us to know you are a moron a hater an anti Semite and a fool. I urge to NOT take a good hard look at yourself. Anyone as stupid and pathetic as you are would just crumple and cry for days at the waste of life you are. You would need medication at the thought of how stupid and pathetic you are. Just slink quietly away and stop humiliating yourself. Do the entire world a favor and just STFU. You CAN say things its just that someone as stupid as you probably shouldnt.
June 12th, 2009 at 2:15 amJeffrey Hulsebos Says:
Nobody can say anything anymore. Not with all of those Jews stopping them from talking to Obama. Your messiah is a fraud brought up in an anti-semetic house hold.
I’m going to stop you right there because I can and will say something. First and foremost, your reference to President Obama as “our messiah” is not only ignorant, it’s insulting. I am proud to say I voted for Obama, and it was not because I view him as a messiah. I am atheist and have no need for religious leaders of any kind. It is the right wing, and the right wing ONLY, that has been calling Obama a “messiah”. Psychologically, I think this says more about people like you than it does about people like me.
Second, what you’re claiming makes no logical sense at all. You’re buying into the disgusting comments made by Rev Wright about how Obama is protected by Jews, but then you try to imply he’s anti-Semitic. If Obama was really anti-Semitic, then why would he have chosen Jewish people for key roles in his administration?
Lastly, Obama wasn’t “sight-seeing” in Paris. He was there for a commemoration of D-Day which, if you know anything about history, happened this time of year. So he had no choice on the timing of the trip.
You really need to stop getting your information from right-wing media. Not if you are interested in the truth, because they sure as hell aren’t going to give it to you.
June 12th, 2009 at 8:08 amEugene, I’m ashamed that I share the same first name as these Jeffs.
June 12th, 2009 at 8:12 amDomestic terrorism is surging and Fox doesn’t think it is newsworthy? What do they think is newsworthy, Blago’s wife eating some bugs in Central America?
June 12th, 2009 at 8:20 amSeems like a lot of personal attacks on this thread rather than comments on the story. I thought both crimes were newsworthy….but it seems both sides of the debate are trying to exploit them for their own purposes.
June 12th, 2009 at 9:54 amO’REILLY: It’s a news decision, and our news decision is based on what is important. Their news decision is based on ideology.
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Huh? WTF?
Fox bases it’s news coverage on radical right wing ideology. They push their news decisions on what they think will keep all of their ignorant, racist, hateful viewers returning to watch the Fox entertainment channel. IMHO, the Fox entertainment channel is dangerous to our country. Through their hateful, racist, twisted slant on stories, they are a breeding ground for domestic terrorists who feed off of all the fear, hate and lies spewed by the bobbleheads on Fox.
June 12th, 2009 at 10:06 amSince both O’reilly and Hannity are probably secret members of one of those scary, radical right wing groups, what do you expect. They can not dog their own, would not look good.
June 12th, 2009 at 11:50 amOreilly and Hannity both reported on the shootings of the museum guard and both said it was a lunatic killing. Oreilly said it was biased of the uber-left media to report on the killing of a “hero” abortionist by a lunatic by a ten to one margin over the killing of a US soldier by another lunatic. Hannity also reported all three incidences. I saw the programs myself and they did report it, they just questioned the mainstream media’s decision to cover the abortionist by a ten to one margin. Can you explain the mainstream media’s actions?
June 14th, 2009 at 10:25 pm