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ThinkFast: June 11, 2009

By Think Progress on Jun 11th, 2009 at 9:00 am

ThinkFast: June 11, 2009


American Medical Association

The American Medical Association (AMA) is letting Congress know that it will oppose creation of a government-sponsored public health insurance plan, a key plank of Obama’s reform package. The Huffington Post notes that the AMA “has fought almost every major effort at health care reform of the past 70 years.” Obama will deliver a speech to the AMA on Monday.

While some small-business groups have been against requiring companies to purchase health insurance for employees, the Small Business Majority has a new report concluding that “proposals now being considered by the Obama administration and Senate leaders could save small companies tens of billions of dollars a year in health care costseven if there is a mandate for employer coverage.”

Judge Sonia Sotomayor once described herself as ‘a product of affirmative action’ who was admitted to two Ivy League schools despite scoring lower on standardized tests than many classmates,” according to videos released to the Senate Judiciary Committee. She also defended the value of diversity, saying, “I accept that different experiences in and of itself, bring merit to the system.”

Congressional Democrats and the White House reached an agreement yesterday that will allow Guantanamo Bay detainees to be transferred to the U.S. for trial as long as they are not “jailed here permanently.” If passed, the decision “would effectively ratify the administration’s decision earlier this week to move” Ahmed Ghailani to New York to face capital charges for bombing the U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya.

The economy delivered two upbeat reports Thursday: New claims for unemployment benefits dropped more than expected in the most recent week, to 601,000 and May retail sales rose by the largest amount in four months.”

According to RealtyTrac, “U.S. foreclosure activity for May ebbed from April’s record, but mortgages still failed at a staggering pace as President Barack Obama’s rescue programs had not had time to fully take root.” Foreclosure filings “dipped 6 percent in the month but increased 18 percent from May 2008, marking the third highest month on record.”

The five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council — the U.S., France, Britain, Russia and China — along with Japan and South Korea “reached agreement Wednesday on a draft U.N. resolution that condemns North Korea’s recent underground nuclear test and imposes additional military, financial and trade sanctions on the communist state.” The draft could be considered by the full, 15-member Security Council as early as tomorrow.

Gun-control advocates said yesterday’s shooting at the Holocaust Museum “highlights the need for lawmakers to reconsider efforts to ease the District’s tough gun laws and allowing firearms into national parks.” “Congress should think very hard about their responsibilities for public safety before weakening gun laws in our nation’s capital,” said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

“The Obama administration will announce plans today to tighten scrutiny of mountaintop coal mining, in an effort to reduce environmental damage from operations that shear off peaks and fill Appalachian valleys,” the Washington Post reports. The policy changes will not end the practice, but are aimed at curtailing its worst impacts, according to administration officials.

And finally: MTV has announced that the 23rd season of its reality show “The Real World” will be filmed in Washington, DC. The show’s creative and executive producer, Jonathan Murray, said, “Young people have never been more engaged in what’s happening in this country and Washington, DC, is the perfect place for The Real World cast to express their opinions and pursue their passions.” DC Mayor Adrian Fenty agreed, saying it was a “pleasure” to have the show come to the city.

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67 Responses to “ThinkFast: June 11, 2009”

  1. singe_101 says:

    AMA
    NOT OK
    AMA
    NOOOOO WAY

    They still get paid with a single payer. Insurance co. lackeys…


  2. Zimzone says:

    …the Small Business Majority has a new report concluding that “proposals now being considered by the Obama administration and Senate leaders could save small companies tens of billions of dollars a year in health care costs — even if there is a mandate for employer coverage.”

    Meanwhile, the AMA digs in their heels to fight a public option. I would guess these AMA folks are at the admin level, & are concerned their salaries may decline.

    Roger Cohen has an article in this morning’s NYT about an American woman living in Canada who compares Canadian health care to ours. Worth the read, as it notes how, upon admittance in Canada money is not even brought up. This same woman suffered a fainting spell in San Francisco, & the first thing she was asked in ER, (not by a Dr.), was ‘how are you going to pay for this?’ Her bill for a partial day was nearly $8,000.

    Small business will BENEFIT from a public option. That’s the cat in the bag that the Republics don’t want to let out.


  3. S1 says:

    What does the Hippocratic Oath say about doing your damnedest to deny people health insurance — and, therefore, deny them health care?


  4. Briseadh na Firefly says:

    Canadian emergency room: “Is there a pulse?”

    American emergency room: “Is there a wallet?”


  5. jurassicpork says:

    Here’s my rebuttal to Karl Rove tilting at nonexistent windmills in the pages of the WSJ.

    Of course, Kingmaker Karl is laying the lame for the ballooning deficit on Obama without a mention of the hand the previous administration had in that.


  6. stewarjt says:

    The American Medical Association (AMA) is letting Congress know that it will oppose creation of a government-sponsored public health insurance plan, a key plank of Obama’s reform package. The Huffington Post notes that the AMA “has fought almost every major effort at health care reform of the past 70 years.” Obama will deliver a speech to the AMA on Monday.

    Anticipating the Obama administration’s backing off on a public option in three, two, one…


  7. Briseadh na Firefly says:


    “Judge Sonia Sotomayor once described herself as ‘a product of affirmative action’ who was admitted to two Ivy League schools despite scoring lower on standardized tests than many classmates,”

    Affirmative action got her in the door. Then she worked her you-know-what off to graduate top of her class.


  8. stewarjt says:

    #3 People who are ignorant about economics should really be prohibited by law from pontificating about it.


  9. gummble-bee-itch says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says:

    So the economy has continued its turn around despite the fact that the vast majority of the “stimulus” money has not yet been spent, thus helping to prove that the “stimulus” is not needed. Yet, this will be touted by the Left as proof that Socialism works. Let’s all hope that the economy can continue to improve, despite the “stimulus,” and that the “stimulus” will not slow the recovery down too much.

    Predictable response. If the economy didn’t turn around, it would be Obama’s fault. With evidence the economy is turning around, it’s in spite of Obama.

    The stimulus package was never intended to be spent all at once, which you would know if you ever actually read anything other than to cherry-pick.


  10. ralph the wonder locust says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says:

    So the economy has continued its turn around despite the fact that the vast majority of the “stimulus” money has not yet been spent, thus helping to prove that the “stimulus” is not needed.

    Oh. My. God.

    C4Pee, you’re really floating downstream into the vast pond of wingnut crazy.

    To even spend the intellectual effort to begin to rebut your argument would be to give it more implied credence than it could possibly muster on its own.

    But suffice it to say, between the right-wing cries on here that “unemployment is still climbing! The stimulus didn’t work!” and now your weird “unemployment isn’t climbing as fast! The stimulus wasn’t needed” it’s pretty clear that you guys are determined to see ANY data as evidence that you’re right and the President is wrong, even if that means constantly shifting what you say is right.

    But you keep making your cute little arguments, Pee. I’m sure some day one of them will be taken seriously. I’d say your best bet for that is JohnM.


  11. hyacinthgirl says:

    “The economy delivered two upbeat reports Thursday: New claims for unemployment benefits dropped more than expected in the most recent week, to 601,000 and May retail sales rose by the largest amont in four months.”

    The trolls aren’t going to like this! They’re gonna be mad that their prayers for Obama to fail aren’t getting through.


  12. RantingTommy says:

    gummble, CFP has walked the line for a long time

    he never has facts

    he never backs up his BS

    as soon as he is called out on his BS< he tries to change the subject

    he’s ignorant, racist, and frightened

    he’s a good candidate for OFnF


  13. Bobwurst says:

    c4p says: this will be touted by the Left as proof that Socialism works.

    Well, the republicans have proved that capitalism doesn’t work…


  14. Briseadh na Firefly says:

    My main concern over government run health care: Imagine if that was our only option under the Bush Administration.

    The Republican Party has become the party of evangelical christians seeking to impose their theocracy upon the rest of the country. Should they ever regain control of the government, women who don’t want to become pregnant will have to be abstinent – and pray they never get raped.

    And, after the Terry Schivo affair, would you want Republicans in charge of end of life decisions?


  15. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Briseadh na Firefly Says:

    “Judge Sonia Sotomayor once described herself as ‘a product of affirmative action’ who was admitted to two Ivy League schools despite scoring lower on standardized tests than many classmates,”

    Affirmative action got her in the door. Then she worked her you-know-what off to graduate top of her class.

    Which actually validates the concept of affirmative action.

    Here we have a woman who would have been denied the opportunity to study at Princeton because she grew up without the advantages that accompany a privileged life. Right-wingers would say therefore that she didn’t “deserve” her place at Princeton.

    Yet her academic performance at that university proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that she deserved to be there.


  16. ralph the wonder locust says:

    hyacinthgirl Says:
    “The economy delivered two upbeat reports Thursday: New claims for unemployment benefits dropped more than expected in the most recent week, to 601,000 and May retail sales rose by the largest amont in four months.”

    The trolls aren’t going to like this! They’re gonna be mad that their prayers for Obama to fail aren’t getting through.

    Oh, hyacinth girl, you misunderestimate our trolls. As our friend C4Pee demonstrates above, when reality hands them lemons, they simply shift their alternate reality to make lemonade. It’s just too bad they make their lemonade out of wee-wee.


  17. RantingTommy says:

    lol, the racist CFP tries to blame the acts of his fellow racist on my comments on this blog

    I’m sure that the right wing racist, CFP-like bigot that shot up the museum reads Think Progress

    wow, CFP, you really are hoping to become the next right winger on OFnF


  18. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Is anyone else worried that Pee’s intellectual health will suffer by his insistence on consuming the empty calories of bizarre alternate-reality rationalizations?

    My clinical diagnosis is that Pee suffers from the intellectual equivalent of anorexia nervosa.

    here’s a little morsel of nourishment, for ya, Pee:

    The shooter was anti-government. This explains his disdain for former President Bush, who was, after all the head of the government.

    Get it?

    Do you want to say that the Left is “anti-government”?

    No, I didn’t think so. Even you are not that intellectually dishonest.


  19. RantingTommy says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:

    Is anyone else worried that Pee’s intellectual health will suffer by his insistence on consuming the empty calories of bizarre alternate-reality rationalizations?

    My clinical diagnosis is that Pee suffers from the intellectual equivalent of anorexia nervosa.

    here’s a little morsel of nourishment, for ya, Pee:

    The shooter was anti-government. This explains his disdain for former President Bush, who was, after all the head of the government.

    Get it?

    Do you want to say that the Left is “anti-government”?

    No, I didn’t think so. Even you are not that intellectually dishonest.

    o yes he is


  20. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Come to think of it, since Pee consumes empty calories and then pukes them up on this blog, perhaps he’s more accurately diagnosed as bulemic.


  21. Bobwurst says:

    C4P’s last post was refuted quite well on yesterday’s initial thread on the republican terrorist shooting at the Holocaust Museum. So of course he will cut and paste into a thread today, after all the sun did rise in the East…


  22. misscoleopteramolly says:

    I was a bit surprised to read about the effort of the AMA to halt any kind of public health insurance plan. I could understand why private insurers would be against it, but why doctors?

    So I read the linked article. At first, the AMA’s objections seemed to be right in step with all the rest of the naysayers — claiming that affordable insurance should be accomplished through private insurers, etc. (gee — if that could be done, why hasn’t it?).

    They also made vague accusations without backing them up, along with hypothetical scenarios — a public plan will push private insurers out of the market, a public plan will drive up everybody’s taxes, etc. Yeah, yeah — we’ve heard all this before from the private insurance companies. How is this affecting the doctors?

    Finally, I came down to the point of the doctors’ complaint. The Democrats want doctors who currently take Medicare patients to be required to take public health plan patients. They claim this move is necessary to start the plan with a large network of doctors.

    If a public plan becomes available, and people can actually afford health insurance, doctors claim they won’t be able to handle the influx of new patients! Now, surely many of the people who opt for a public plan will be people who have switched from their private plan, so those people wouldn’t be contributing to a new “influx”.

    But for people who aren’t insured now, a public plan will enable them to afford insurance and see a doctor. It’s these people the doctors are objecting to. Imagine that — it’s actually in the best interest of doctors to keep a large portion of the population uninsured so doctors don’t get overworked!

    This tells me that when the AMA gives lip service to wanting affordable insurance for all, they don’t mean it. Of course, when they claim they want affordable insurance for all through current private companies, they’re fairly safe. Because they know that will never happen.


  23. unbelievable says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says: The anti-semitism of von Brunn is the first thing one notices when visiting these bizarre websites.

    You’re an idiot. And I don’t say that as a perjorative, but as a complete and utter fact.

    Liberals are tolerant. To try and link an anti-Semite to us is truly ignorant and pathetic.


  24. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says:

    Well put, Kathy. It’s the likes of RantingTommy that fueled this killer.

    June 11th, 2009 at 9:27 am
    ____________

    So?

    Usama bin Laden is opposed to taxes.

    Does that mean all teabaggers are members of al-Qa’ida?


  25. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:

    Is anyone else worried that Pee’s intellectual health will suffer by his insistence on consuming the empty calories of bizarre alternate-reality rationalizations?

    June 11th, 2009 at 9:34 am

    I doubt his intellectual health can atrophy any further than it already has.

    Though I did enjoy the article he wrote for The Onion recently.


  26. gummble-bee-itch says:

    ConservativeForProgress Says:

    Well put, Kathy. It’s the likes of RantingTommy that fueled this killer.

    Moron, the blog comments von Brunn posted were on right-wing sites, where there were neither condemned or scrubbed until after the shooting.

    And the claim that “like most anti-semites track left” is so ridiculous that it’s difficult to believe that even someone as dishonest and credulous as you would give it any credence.


  27. RantingTommy says:

    CFP has some sort of weird obsession with me

    I don’t know if it’s because he is secretly a huge fan of my music and his “feelings” are causing him to feel conflicted, since his radio says those feelings are wrong, or, if it is because I am one of the more active posters that regularly call him out on his BS and prove him wrong so often.


  28. Marie says:

    C4P would not be satisfied no matter what happens. If things go sour, it’s Obama’s fault — if things improve, Obama acted unnecessarily.
    He is just a disgruntled repug who won’t accept Obama and the Dems finding improvement, much less success, in anything.
    Only things republican are OK in his mind. Period.


  29. angels81 says:

    CFPee, Of course this rightwing facist white supremacist hated bush and some neocons. In his deluded mind they had betrayed their race. They wern’t true to the white race. These racist white folks would kill every progressive on tghew planet if they could. You really are stupid.


  30. Zimzone says:

    The American Jihad and it’s inbred cluster of domestic terrorists has been fired up by Republic rhetoric.

    Anyone stating it’s the left’s fault is more full of shit than Michelle Bachmann with a microphone.

    3 cops in Pittsburgh. Dr. Tiller. And now, the security guard at the Holocaust site.

    Enough is enough. The FBI needs to slam the full force of the law behind every arrest of these killers. The relationship to other radical entities must be investigated, as well. Operation Rescue is trying to distance itself from Roeder while Roeder himself claims ‘other bad things’ are going to occur.

    Instead of having a fit about right wing terror potential in the Gov’t report, man up & admit many associated with your party are completely off the deep end.

    You can’t solve a problem until you recognize WHAT the problem is…


  31. angels81 says:

    god, sometimes I type to fast. The should have been the instead of tghew.


  32. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Thank goodness I don’t live on planet Tghew!


  33. Marie says:

    Repugs have been opposed to everything from the New Deal to Medicare to Affirmative Action to Equal Opportunity to OSHA to you-name-it — if it benefits the average American, or the worker, or helps the downtrodden or those who are shut out, they rise up against it.

    Selfishness, greed, and smug self-righteousness are their traits.


  34. spencers mom says:

    Let’s examine the museum shooter:

    Racist, anti-government, gun-toting and willing to mass kill innocents in a public place. His writings include referring to others as Jew and Negro.

    Doesn’t fit the progressive or liberal label, but sure sounds like a member of the wingnuttery. And it’s highly unlikely he is a supporter of our new president.

    Poor Pee, it must be hard to be you.

    PEACE


  35. Dru Phlea says:

    “neoconservative” is often used as a derogatory code word for “Jews”.

    No, neoconservative is a tern to describe authoritarian, warmongering, corporatist. The left, and other sane people oppose this faction of the conservative movement because they bankrupt the nation (Iraq war), violate our principles (torture & illegal surveillance) and ruin our economy (cut taxes for corporation, conduct no oversight, and ignore the bottom 95% of wage earners)

    The shooter hated the Neocons because they was Jewish, which has no connection to the reasons why the left, and other sane people, oppose neocon policies.


  36. 5th Estate says:

    Hey CFP, I think you are on to something here! If von Brunn is a progressive as you suspect, he must be a member of Move On or COde Pink maybe or ACORN, or Planned Parenthood. He must have voted Democrat! He was probably also a Daily Kos diarist.

    How great would it be if you discovered all that? Why you’d be the next Drudge or something!

    I suggest you get right on it. Dig that information up, no matter how long it takes. Do it, for justice!


  37. Marie says:

    I suspect C4P is a fan of Glen Blecchh. He rants on with insane comments like that — I think he captures them as they escape his rear end in stinking farts.


  38. PatrioticLiberalChristianMantisReligiosa says:

    CFP, how much do you want to bet that the shooter hated Bush, at least in part, because he had two “negroes” (Rice and Powell) in his cabinet? Not because they were incompetent, as the left believed, but simply because they were black.


  39. dumbstruck says:

    Isn’t it going to be terribly ironic that the right wing extremists are going to be the ones who force us into stricter gun laws?


  40. misscoleopteramolly says:

    CFP and other trolls are working overtime to paint the Holocaust Museum shooter as a leftist. And therefore a liberal. And therefore a progressive. Never mind that this guy pretty much stands for everything progressives are against. Hatred, bigotry, intolerance, complete disregard for the law — not to mention communicating with firearms.

    The reason for labeling such a monster as a leftist seems to be “well, he’s obviously not one of us, so he must be one of y’all.” As if there are only two ideologies in the universe, and everybody has to be one or the other.

    Following this choplogic, the KKK must be a progressive organization, too. Yet anybody would see that idea as completely ludicrous.

    I get it that most conservatives find the thoughts and actions of von Brunn to be completely against their principles. Well, it’s the same for progressives. We have no sense of kinship with this dangerous man.

    Von Brunn is an extremist. He’s the kind of guy that the DHS report was talking about. You know, the report you screamed about because you conservatives were taking it personally. Now do you see that you really don’t have much in common with people like von Brunn? Now do you see that we need to be aware of this unsavory element of our society?


  41. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Pee, if you were an anti-semitic white supremacist (I’m not saying you are, just that your posted opinions tend to track that way)… which party would you belong to?

    The one that right-wingers claim is beholden to its minority members? The one to which 90% of black people belong? The one which garnered 77% of the Jewish vote in the most recent presidential election, in which they ran a black candidate?

    Or the other one?

    Think it through.


  42. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Pee must be out getting his bloody nose stuffed with cotton balls again.

    Poor li’l bugger.


  43. RantingTommy says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:

    Pee must be out getting his bloody nose stuffed with cotton balls again.

    Poor li’l bugger.

    Maybe he went out to buy another copy of my latest CD, since he loves it so much.


  44. Witch1 says:

    After yesterdays mess with constipatedandpissing along with his/her other trollie friend’s screaming approval of the racest murderer I would think the bulk of the posters here would be as sickened with that troll as I am….It’s hard to respond to a sick demented mind and I for one have had enough of their evil..

    Finding a way to inform the FBI about a poster that spouts killing will be my next goal….The hate and crap that went on yesterday, here, go’s way beyond acceptable free speech…Time for us all to report to the FCC every time their god’s limpdick and o;lilie go off the rails also….We can stop this madness and although many of us own gun’s we don’t have to resort to their use to get the inciter’s removed from our air ways and the radical nut cases behind bar’s…Time for TP to reign in a few…..P. B. & J


  45. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Thanks for that glimpse into the “alternative reality” of the right wing, watchpuppy.

    It’s good to now you guys are keeping yourselves amused. Less chance that you’ll snap and shoot up a museum that way.


  46. RantingTommy says:

    did you see the way Contessa Brewer totally owned that ignorant right wing radio stooge, Ziegler?

    he kept trying to attack MSNBC and spread that same BS about the “librul media”

    she soo outclassed him

    it was great

    she just let the right winger show his a$$


  47. Chyron HR says:

    The Republican Round-Up:

    - Everyone who posts on Free Republic is secretly a liberal
    - Winter weather when it’s supposed to be summer proves that climate change is a myth
    - When the economy gets better, it means Obama is doing a bad job as President

    Trust me, it makes sense when an obese drug addict on the radio says it!


  48. stateofthedivision says:

    Robert Reich’s column is worth the read:

    The Great Debt Scare: Why Has It Returned?

    It’s the kind of thing I expect to hear from deficit hawks and chicken littles — from the self-described “fiscally responsible” right, from the scolds Ross Perot and Pete Peterson, from my former cabinet colleague Bob Rubin. But yesterday I was shown slides developed by the putatively liberal Center for American Progress intended to make the point. And today’s front page story in the New York Times, by the eminent David Leonhardt, entitled “Sea of Red Ink: How It Spread From A Puddle,” puts the issue right before our progressive noses, so to speak.

    The Great Debt Scare is back.

    http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/06/great-debt-scare-why-has-it-returned.html


  49. gummble-bee-itch says:

    Contessa looks like a babbling idiot. Must see.

    Yeah, but . . . Ziegler actually IS a babbling idiot. There’s a difference.


  50. linkwray says:

    Most doctors are overpaid body mechanics with the souls and demeanor of morticians. The medical schools restrict applicants to ensure a huge donor base later on in the graduates’ career. We need many more primary care physicians from the general populace not more plastic surgeons from country club backgrounds.


  51. 5th Estate says:

    I just Googled “von Brunn hated Bush and all I got was pages pages of generic freepers pasting from that ‘examiner’ post CFP pasted here.
    So THAT appears to be the source of the claim, and that author offers NO evidence.

    At the same time there are also mentions of a photo of von Drumm’s truck with a Bush/Cheney bumper sticker on a couple of these right wing blogs, but it seems they are trying to claim that little bit of evidence doesn’t matter .
    A link was provided but it failed, I tried a search on the .org itself but it crashed my session.

    Still the reasons why von Brunn MIGHT have complained about Bush (and McCain) are numerous:

    As already noted, Rice and Powell are black.
    Bush and his neocon buddies were/are mindless unquestioning Israel supporters.
    Illegal immigration was a big issue for the GOP still is, but despite a few raids near the borders the racist element of Republican voters have long complained about how little Bush actually did—no mass deportations, no continuous border wall, no banning of Spanish translations of official documents and forms.

    As a part of the sovereignty movement, von Brunn would also naturally object to the DHS and foreign wars.

    Of course there’s a classic dichotomy of complaint right there: The government needs to get rid of 12 million immigrants and seal the borders, but at the same time government shouldn’t be big enough to accomplish such a task!


  52. RantingTommy says:

    don’t click jeff’s spam

    it’s just his way of trying to spam his silly blog

    flag it


  53. angels81 says:

    F**k off jeffy with your spam polling crap. Nobody cares about your stupid sight.


  54. SKdeAnt says:

    Most regular, small practice doctors would love a public option. At least that way they would get paid faster.
    My doctor of many years had to retire from public practice, because the law says the insurance companies can wait 6 months to START to process payments. Then of course they do everything they can to get out of paying. This drives doctors into bankruptcy.
    She ended up going to work for the largest growing industry… the prisons.
    The big guys in the AMA are just bought and paid for by the insurance companies. Since they are not a government department, I don’t see why the government has to go by their opinion.


  55. stateofthedivision says:

    If the Real World wants young hip D.C. stars, it needs a young employee from the Carlyle Group. Private equity underwriters are the rage in solving America’s ills. At least the Obama team thinks so.


  56. Mark701 says:

    The AMA has become a tool for the insurance companies and are digging a great big PR hole for themselves. 43,000,000 uninsured Americans may not have any high paid lobbyists to state their case but they represent one hell of a voting block.


  57. lzcrmc says:

    “The economy delivered two upbeat reports Thursday …”

    601,000 new unemployment claims is “upbeat”. I’m sure those filers are partying tonight. Maybe a record 6.8 million continuing claims is great news, too.

    Retail sales inched up from april but they’re still down 10.8% from May 2008.

    I guess, if you’re determined to find “green shoots”, anything looks green. Sorry folks, this isn’t over by a long shot. Follow past depressions/recessions and you often see an upturn at this stage followed by another sharp drop.

    The Home ATM is still broken, foreclosures are still high and commercial real estate is dropping off the cliff. We still have huge zombie banks sucking the life out of our financial markets and no new regulation to address the abuses that caused this mess. We still face massive lay offs in the Auto industry – not only at GM and Chrylser but up and down the supply chain (Visteon, 3,000 + dealers closing, etc.).

    More stimulus is needed but everyone is already focused on shrinking the deficit. (No clue where all of these deficit hawks were when Bush/Cheney and their Republican friends were turning a surplus into a huge deficit. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not of the Cheney, deficits don’t matter, mind set. They do. But the time to close the deficit – or, even better, run surpluses – is when the economy is growing. Cutting deficits now will only suck more demand out of the economy.)

    All this signals that we are heading down the same path we followed in the early ’30’s. Those who do not learn from history …


  58. lzcrmc says:

    “The Obama administration will announce plans today to tighten scrutiny of mountaintop coal mining, in an effort to reduce environmental damage from operations that shear off peaks and fill Appalachian valleys,”

    This abomination needs to be STOPPED, not “curtailed.”


  59. dietrich says:

    Briseadh na Firefly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Canadian emergency room: “Is there a pulse?”

    American emergency room: “Is there a wallet?”

    June 11th, 2009 at 9:12 am Recommend (15) | Report Abuse
    Sadly true, last time I went to the hospital with pneumonia they wanted 200$ before I could get a room.
    And that’s with insurance.
    And at a non-profit hospital ran by the seventh day adventists.
    tony and lido


  60. DRxJ says:

    Pee done got raptured.


  61. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    DRxJ Says:

    Pee done got raptured.

    June 11th, 2009 at 11:54 am
    _____________

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED


  62. Wayne says:

    DRxJ Says:

    Pee done got raptured.

    Its about time TP finally banned that racist POS babbling idiot.


  63. oldgranny says:

    There was an article in the newspaper when Clinton was pushing a health care plan that the AMA puts doctors’ retirment funds into drug company stocks. Therefore, they want big earnings for the drug companies.
    Possibly they also have stock in health insurance companies?


  64. mikeyes says:

    Here is a statement supposedly made by the president of the AMA on the Washington Monthly blog. (It sure sounds like her.):

    “Every American deserves affordable, high-quality health care coverage and working toward health reform that covers the uninsured is the AMAs top priority. While the AMA opposes any public plan that forces physicians to participate, expands the fiscally-challenged Medicare program or pays Medicare rates, we are willing to consider other variations of a public plan that are currently under discussion in Congress. This includes a federally chartered co-op health plan or a level playing field option for all plans. The AMA is working to achieve meaningful health reform this year and is ready to stand behind legislation that includes coverage options that work for patients and physicians.

    Posted by: Dr. Nancy Nielsen, AMA President on June 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM”

    If this is a real statement, it means that the AMA is not opposed to all public plans and would like to be in the mix when one is developed. For many physicians the issue of having no ability to divorce themselves from a government plan (i.e. pick and choose meds) is the most important aspect.


  65. mikeyes says:

    Aagh! I hate it when you can’t edit.

    …(i.e. pick and choose patients) Not meds although that is an issue too.


  66. sacopenapa says:

    For AMA sick people = Money!


  67. sacopenapa says:

    … and by ‘money I mean ‘profit’!



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