The Southern Poverty Law Center reports that MSNBC’s Pat Buchanan has invited the editor of a white nationalist, anti-immigrant website to speak at the upcoming conference for his group, the American Cause.
Peter Brimelow, editor of VDARE.com, has written numerous tracts railing against immigration. He has said that the Republican party must “appeal to its base: white Americans,” and noted that John McCain “easily carried the white a.k.a. American vote.” Hitting back at critics of his website, he defended the site’s “white nationalist” writers:
We also publish on VDARE.COM a few writers…whom I would regard as “white nationalist,” in the sense that they aim to defend the interests of American whites. … Get used to it. As immigration policy drives whites into a minority, this type of interest-group “white nationalism” will inexorably increase.
Other writers on the site are even more outspoken in their racism, particularly Steve Sailor:
[W]hat if there is disparate impact for a good reason that is unmentionable: that blacks, on average, aren’t as smart as whites? We are supposed to constantly act as if the racial gaps seen on the New Haven firefighters’ written test were surprising when they are exactly the same as those seen on, say, graduate and professional school exams. [LINK]
In other words, what Obama hasn’t figured out yet…is that Better Teachers means Whiter Teachers. [LINK]
It’s no surprise that Buchanan would invite such a hatemonger to his conference. Buchanan himself has appeared at least twice on a neo-Nazi radio show; one appearance was streamed live on Stormfront, one of the most prominent white supremacist online forums. More recently, Buchanan has led the far-right attack against Sonia Sotomayor and in supposed defense of white men, going to far as to claim that “what is happening now to white men right now is exactly what was done to black folks for years.”
As Media Matters’ Jamison Foser asked, what exactly would Pat Buchanan have to say or do to get himself fired from MSNBC?
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Courting teh crazies!
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June 12th, 2009 at 3:32 pmNumber one on the list of “Ways to Convince People You’re Not A Racist” has got to be avoiding this jerk at all costs. Not inviting him to speak at your conference should go without saying.
Hey! How about someone who doesn’t have anything else to do right this second sniff out all the Pat Buchanan racist/quasi-racist remarks from the past, and let’s check out some of the true gems. It could be fun.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:33 pmTiming has always been Pat’s forté.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:34 pm.
R E M E M B E R:
Gypsies, gays, and Jews… Oh MY!
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June 12th, 2009 at 3:34 pm.
T O D A Y:
Immigrants, gays, and Muslims… Oh MY!
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June 12th, 2009 at 3:35 pmThis is a just the dumbest peice of garbage I’ve ever heard. Wonder why the GOP and is fractured, and in need of some serious direction…. well Rush-Bucan and friends can’t save the dying little girl of Czar Bush the 2nd. Because their ideas no longer attract the support of the people….. I’ve seen this before.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:38 pmCan you say “lover of the russian queen”
What is it with these white nationalists or white separatists?
Jeebus, even at middle age, they have the look of never EVER getting a date.
Maybe that’s why they join or lead these dum bass groups.
To feel accepted?
To maybe circle jerk and agree that their woes are due to everyone and everything else?
No offense, whitey, but maybe your pitiful life is the result of YOU!!!
June 12th, 2009 at 3:40 pmhhmmmmmm,
June 12th, 2009 at 3:40 pmi wonder if pat is in the “responsible white supremacist” category they were rattling on about a couple a days ago.
Leading White Nationalist To Speak At Pat Buchanan’s American Cause Conference This Month
– - MSNBC must love Pat Buchanan’s inclusionary bent.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:42 pmIt is hard to get fired for just being ignorant and plum dumb from network news in today’s world.
Now if Pat wants to spot MSNBC some rope on air, that would be an entirely different thing. Something along the Rush leftist diatribe from yesterday would just about do it.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:42 pmOops, nevermind. That’s exactly what Jamison Foser already did. That’s what you get when all you read is the article in front of you instead of inspecting all links as well.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:42 pmNumber #2: Carry a picture of your ‘black friend’ with you at all times.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:43 pmROFL deebaser!
June 12th, 2009 at 3:44 pmfrightening appalling ignorance and bigotry
i’m all for free speech, but i don’t think there’s any room for this sort of talk in our national dialogue.
its ugly
June 12th, 2009 at 3:44 pmFrustration? Crazy? Picked last in Middle School lunchtime basketball games? I don’t know and I don’t care.
I’m just somewhat glad that people like Brimelow are proud and self identify. It saves a lot of time.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:46 pmAmanda Terkel is on MSNBC with David Shuster right now ……
June 12th, 2009 at 3:47 pmpat buchanan says he prefers the old form of bigotry… at least it was honest:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32264
June 12th, 2009 at 3:50 pmdeebaser Says:
Frustration? Crazy? Picked last in Middle School lunchtime basketball games? I don’t know and I don’t care.
I thought Dr. Naismith was still trying to figure out how to get the ball through the peach bucket back then.
Are we sure Little House on the Prairie isn’t based on Pat’s life?
June 12th, 2009 at 3:51 pmThese people are a red herring to cover up the Southpaw Conspiracy!
June 12th, 2009 at 3:51 pmGo ahead, Pat. Dare MSNBC to fire your homphobic, bigoted
June 12th, 2009 at 3:52 pma s s.
You are an embarrassment to yourself as you pontificate on the various talk venues (MSNBC, McClaughlin) and defend your indefensible positions.
Buchanan’s always been in the crowd you’d call ’scientific’ or ‘rational’ racists.
In the first place, their own mediocrities have been significantly abetted by the fact that they themselves are beneficiaries of undoubed and indubitable white privilege on a white racist culture,
and secondly they use ’science’ as a weapon against the challenge form “others” to their ’superiority’ upon which their egos and personalities so much depend…
The “Bell Curve” guys are of the same ilk.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:00 pmUsing Peter Brimelow’s logic;
If you compare George W. Bush (white male) to Barack Obama (non white male), it proves that non white people are ten times more intelligent than white people.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:02 pmPat Buchanan is an ugly, outdated, racist old fart who needs to RETIRE and STFU.
MSNBC – FIRE HIS RADDLED OLD ASS!!
June 12th, 2009 at 4:02 pmI have wondered for a long time why MSNBC uses Buchanan, he is so far behind times. Even Rachel Maddow has to contain her laughter at his comments. And now he has people coming to listen to him ? What are they from 1950 era ?
June 12th, 2009 at 4:04 pmThe Republic Fascist Party has given the OK for the hate mongering racists to get out there, front and center.
Next they will have Rush, the Drug addict, underage boy Dominican prostitute abusing propagandist just out right calling for the killing of anyone not like them.
And they will call it “Free Speech”.
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
June 12th, 2009 at 4:05 pmShow up wearing his favorite watch-band and lampshade?
June 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pmAnyone else remember his fawning over Palin during the convention, thinking she is just a sweet little ole thing that will listen to an old pervert. Palin would hand Buchanan his backside and he is too dumb to know it.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pmThis is the guy who served as a Presidential advisor to Nixon, Ford and Reagan and wrote in his 2006 book, “State of Emergency” that Nixon’s Southern Strategy (exploiting racism among white voters) was a good idea. It includes a chapter called “The Suicide of the G.O.P.” in which he relates that the Republican Party’s strategy at that time of courting minority votes at the expense of its traditional base would result in, as the chapter is entitled, suicide for the party. As far as I can tell, neither he nor his sister, Bay, ever lived in the South, but their parents did for at least part of their lives. How far the family goes back as “southern” is unclear, but I understand he had a great-grandfather who fought on the Confederate side.
The bottom line though is that this guy is 70 years old, learned to be a racist in his childhood, and is very unlikely to suddenly become “enlightened.” Unlikely that MSNBC would fire him, due to that much vaunted b.s. “balance.”
June 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pmOkay, what does VDARE think about genesis where Noah and his family were soul survivors and we are all related?
How would he explain the differing skin pigments today and how they came to be?
Why would one pigment need to dominate or subjugate the other?
Why would intelligence be affected by pigments in a persons skin?
And , big IF one was, for whatever reason, more intelligent than the other, wouldnt it behoove society to help the lesser for the greater cause of humanity than to belittle and castigate?
Has it crossed Brimelows mind that our challenge, set forth by GOD perhaps, is to coexist peacefully?
June 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pmSo by the wingnut logic from yesterday that Nazi loving, jew hating white supremacists are really leftists, does that make career Republican Pat Buchanan . . . a liberal? (head explodes)
June 12th, 2009 at 4:10 pmAnyone else completely not surprised by this?
June 12th, 2009 at 4:13 pmFired! Hell dont be surprised if he didnt get his own show, there’s good ratings in the hate arena right now, why would BSNBC let him go when they’re trying to outfox FOX. I expect him to get even more time, I mean if ministers can outright call for the death of the POTUS whats some words from Mr. Buchanan and the right wing rage pimps gonna hurt.
Hate: it’s whats for dinner
Help us.
RIP
June 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
I guess this is what they must mean by “big tent” Republicanism.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:20 pmYou all check out the related post.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:20 pmsmidget Says:
Here’s something
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/920217/archive_017258_2.htm
RIP
June 12th, 2009 at 4:21 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Why would one pigment need to dominate or subjugate the other?
Why would intelligence be affected by pigments in a persons skin?
And , big IF one was, for whatever reason, more intelligent than the other, wouldnt it behoove society to help the lesser for the greater cause of humanity than to belittle and castigate?
xisithrus,
Rudyard Kipling and “the white man’s burden” have something to say about this
don’t you realize that we’re helping them by dominating them and subjugating them to our way if thinking.
if the powerful didn’t make the weak the lesser members of their society then what would those pour souls do… they’d be lost without our teachings…thats why they gratefully make things for us and give us their wealth, all smiles and thank yous.
(note: in case it wasn’t clear… very heavy sarcasm)
June 12th, 2009 at 4:22 pmIf he had sufficient dignity to match his inflated ego, he would not wait to be fired, but would retire gracefully.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:23 pmLike so many star athletes and celebrities, they stay too long in the limelight and finally leave in ignominy.
Ironically Brimelow, it seems, has come to regret that POV:
June 12th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Tired of Fighting
Thank you for that!
Unfortunately, it’s not as funny as I’d hoped, it’s just sad and pathetic.
I must parrot the article: What does this guy have to do to get fired? It seems to me like he’s been trying for years to no avail. Maybe if he tried to just walk up to Jeff Zucker and b!tch-slapped him a good one, it would be a fireable offense (not saying that Jeff Zucker needs or deserves b!tch slapping, mind you, that’s a different conversation entirely).
What am I saying? They wouldn’t fire him. They’d make a reality show out of the clip: “I’m A Network Executive….Slap The Hell Out Of Me!” or something equally stupid.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:34 pmIts like the schoolyard bully, its all good when he beats up other people, but when the goodness is returned in full, its all bad.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:34 pmSide note:
Strange moderation rules you’ve got there, TP. I notice that there is nothing whatsoever wrong with posting “shit,” but try to write out “b!tch” and the post doesn’t even get considered for posting. What’s that all about?
June 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pmAs immigration policy drives whites into a minority, this type of interest-group “white nationalism” will inexorably increase.
It’s birth-rate, not immigration, tool.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pmWhite nationalist. Pat Buchanan.
Peanut Butter. Jelly.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:37 pmNot a real live moderator…its a computerized word filter
June 12th, 2009 at 4:37 pmsmidget Says:
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Tired of Fighting
Thank you for that!
Unfortunately, it’s not as funny as I’d hoped, it’s just sad and pathetic.
I know, there is nothing funny about hate, but I will keep looking since I am not doing a damn thing at work today.
RIP
June 12th, 2009 at 4:38 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
My guess is it’s always been a preemptive strike against anti-Hilary rhetoric likely to pop up during last year’s primary campaign.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:40 pmIn 1983, Buchanan wrote that “homosexuals … have declared war on nature, and now nature is exacting an awful retribution.” (During his 1992 presidential campaign, he stood by that view, insisting “AIDS is nature’s retribution for violating the laws of nature.”) In his 1990 book, Right From the Beginning, Buchanan reminisced fondly about his childhood in segregated Washington, D.C.: “In the late 1940’s and 1950’s … race was never a preoccupation with us, we rarely thought about it. … There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The ‘Negroes’ of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours.” That same year, he complained that the poor “Euro-Americans” just couldn’t catch a break:
The Negroes of the ’50s became the blacks of the ’60’s; now, the “African-Americans” of the 90’s demand racial quotas and set-asides, as the Democrats eagerly assent and a pandering GOP prepares to go along.
Who speaks for the Euro-Americans, who founded the U.S.A.? … Is it not time to take America back?
RIP
June 12th, 2009 at 4:41 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Tired of Fighting, he hates penguins too.
June 12th, 2009 at 4:44 pmLet me answer for Big Bucks:
You guys have it all wrong. Yesterday, Rush proved that the shooter in the Holocost Museum was a liberal. Nazis were liberals (socialists) and it is liberal hate that is destroying America.
And an argument which I don’t think they’ve figured out to make yet:
For that matter, if you remember the Gore vs. Bush election in Florida, the elderly Jewish voters of Broward County overwhelmingly voted for Buchanan.
June 12th, 2009 at 5:44 pmtexaslady Says:
I have wondered for a long time why MSNBC uses Buchanan, he is so far behind times. Even Rachel Maddow has to contain her laughter at his comments.
I think that MSNBC required Rachel have him on her show when she first went on the air. I haven’t seen him on her show for a very long time. It was rather entertaining watching Rachel’s facial expressions while Buchanan was talking. She can roll her eyes like the best of them.
June 12th, 2009 at 5:51 pmFrom the links.
http://www.uwire.com/Article.aspx?id=3797812
What is this guy smoking? White Anglo-Saxon culture? WTF is that anyway? Playing cricket after having tea and crumpets? Well, no that’s English. I guess Anglo-Saxon culture would be to don a bronze helmet and raid a Celtic village.
Maybe he’s an originalist and he thinks we should adopt the early Anglo-Saxon polytheistic religion.
June 12th, 2009 at 6:29 pmRudyard Kipling and “the white man’s burden” have something to say about this: “Don’t you realize that we’re helping them by dominating them and subjugating them to our way of thinking?”
Ironically Brimelow, it seems, has come to regret that POV:
“What is happening now to white men right now is exactly what was done to black folks for years.” — Xisithrus
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It’s a pity that at least to all appearances, Brimelow lacks the thinking skills to realize that “what was done to black folks for years” was perpetrated by people exactly like him — and that this, for all that we know, suggests that perhaps some of what he’s complaining about may be evidence of karma in action.
“What ye sow, so shall ye reap”…
“What goes around, comes around”…
“Do unto others as ye would have them do unto you”…
…and all that.
You know what they say…payback’s a b1tch.
June 12th, 2009 at 6:35 pmThis is shocking
June 12th, 2009 at 6:36 pmWhen white dominance is threatened it’s abuse. Boo-fcuking hoo.
June 12th, 2009 at 6:41 pmi wonder if this will be that “final straw” for rachel maddow to finally end her “friendship” with this bigot…
she could always get the better of him, but now, i don’t know why she would try…
June 12th, 2009 at 6:43 pmThere’s no such thing as “White Nationalist”. There’s White Supremacist, and National Socialist, but “White Nationalist” is nothing but an attempt to whitewash (pun intended) an abomination.
June 12th, 2009 at 6:44 pmBy the Limbaugh Standard™, the man is a raging radical leftist just like Von Brunn. So Pat is being extraordinarily broad-minded. Or maybe he’s a raging radical leftist too. It’s so hard to tell now that these new standards are in place.
June 12th, 2009 at 7:00 pmyea, drobert, you might want to inform all those self-proclaimed white nationalists about your information… should be interesting…
and i don’t see how that is washing anything at all…
June 12th, 2009 at 7:04 pmThere are no “white nationalists”
That is just an embellishment for “white racists and bigots wrapped in the flag”
June 12th, 2009 at 7:32 pmMaple Street says:
I was waiting for the /snark\
One difference between National Socialists and Socialists, is that these two movements are not exactly a mutual admiration society. In practice, the policies of the National Socialists were more like Mussolini’s or Franco’s. They ruthlessly went after not only Communists and Socialists, but they even went after conservatives.
Rush is full of drugs and scheist. As usual. He’s all about being the king of Bizzarro World.
Buchanan himself said that he was certain that the votes for him from Broward County were erroneously cast because the ballots were of such ambiguous design.
June 12th, 2009 at 7:39 pmIn light of recent events, this is helpful. Perhaps he will murder a black,female abortion doctor while on stage. While wearing a brown shirt and goose-stepping.
June 12th, 2009 at 8:32 pmI guess putting Obama in the Whitehouse has ruffled some feathers. The affiliation between the RNC and the old south mentality have been known for years but kept under wrap. It appears it has reared its ugly head and the Republicans have to deal with their 40 year pandering to the racists.
June 12th, 2009 at 9:08 pmObama’s election is bringing the RNC racism out like a boil. The Democrats may have their problems but not one this ugly. The Republican Party does not know what to do. They are getting hopeless.
A boil coming to a head is the image I have when I don’t have the image of someone being hauled away in a strait jacket.
June 12th, 2009 at 10:50 pmI think he’s more like a mascot now, rather than a pundit.
Like a little neo Nazi billygoat or something.
June 13th, 2009 at 12:28 amdrobert_bfm Says:
There’s no such thing as “White Nationalist”. There’s White Supremacist, and National Socialist, but “White Nationalist” is nothing but an attempt to whitewash (pun intended) an abomination.
There is no such thing as a nation that has existed for the purpose of being “white,” nor will there ever be.
For that matter, there is no such thing as a “white” culture or nation in history. “Whiteness” involves conglomerating a great number of European cultures together based on pigmentation rather than anything relevant to the European nations’ long history of endless war with one another
This is one proper response to all of their “what if a white guy said that” complaints. “White” clube are inappropriate, but if you want to have an Iris-heritage or a Hungarian-heritage club, that’d be different. But there’s never been such a culture as “white.”
All “white” means is “not black.”
June 14th, 2009 at 2:22 amForget about getting him thrown off MSNBC.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:46 amI’d just be happy if Rachel Maddow would stop validating his opinions by having him on and calling him “Uncle Pat.”
Fox has plenty of air time for him; I’m tired of seeing valuable time given to him and other neo-confederates on supposedly progressive shows.
en son videolar
June 15th, 2009 at 7:22 amen son videolar