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	<title>Comments on: Lieberman Says He&#8217;s &#8216;Pleasantly Encouraged&#8217; By Obama, But Disagrees With His Middle East And Health Care Agenda</title>
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		<title>By: BarLas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5687730</link>
		<dc:creator>BarLas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lvdragonlady</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5687460</link>
		<dc:creator>lvdragonlady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one more OLD GUY that can&#039;t or won&#039;t changing his thinking.
IT is change time Joe, either get with it or go away..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one more OLD GUY that can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t changing his thinking.<br />
IT is change time Joe, either get with it or go away..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687460', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Parlezvous</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5687287</link>
		<dc:creator>Parlezvous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this Lieberman the Democrat or Lieberman the Independent making these observations?  Does he know what he is?  Is there a third personality at work here?  Does anyone care?

Remember:  Smokers suck butts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this Lieberman the Democrat or Lieberman the Independent making these observations?  Does he know what he is?  Is there a third personality at work here?  Does anyone care?</p>
<p>Remember:  Smokers suck butts!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687287', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: aranansesli</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5686752</link>
		<dc:creator>aranansesli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5686522</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Rascalcat Says:

HEY CONNETICUT! Let Sen. Droopy Dog...&lt;/em&gt;

Oh, he only slipped through with heavy Republican voter support + confused Dems who didn&#039;t pay attention to the primary but were used to voting for the most familiar name.  I don&#039;t think they&#039;ll be fooled again, no matter what he does.  He knows this is his last term in the Senate.  He knew that going into this term.  So he pretty much gets to do whatever he wants now - hence all the McCain support last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Rascalcat Says:</p>
<p>HEY CONNETICUT! Let Sen. Droopy Dog&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Oh, he only slipped through with heavy Republican voter support + confused Dems who didn&#8217;t pay attention to the primary but were used to voting for the most familiar name.  I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll be fooled again, no matter what he does.  He knows this is his last term in the Senate.  He knew that going into this term.  So he pretty much gets to do whatever he wants now &#8211; hence all the McCain support last year.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5686522', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Squad</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5686512</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderate Squad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than members of the Bush administration, I can&#039;t think of anyone in politics whose opinions matter less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than members of the Bush administration, I can&#8217;t think of anyone in politics whose opinions matter less.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5686512', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rascalcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rascalcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY CONNETICUT! Let Sen. Droopy Dog you want a public option on health care.  Nothing will change if there is not a public option to keep the corprations honest.

Preciate it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY CONNETICUT! Let Sen. Droopy Dog you want a public option on health care.  Nothing will change if there is not a public option to keep the corprations honest.</p>
<p>Preciate it<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5686266', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;He has been strong, particularly on foreign policy.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Foreign policy which you disagree with on every point...

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&lt;em&gt;HUNT: Do you disagree then with the President and Secretary Clinton that there ought to be a freeze — no growth in those settlements now?

LIEBERMAN: I do. I disagree.&lt;/em&gt;

Blatantly missing follow-up question: &quot;What purpose do you believe is served by intentionally growing settlements on the West Bank?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;He has been strong, particularly on foreign policy.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Foreign policy which you disagree with on every point&#8230;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p><em>HUNT: Do you disagree then with the President and Secretary Clinton that there ought to be a freeze — no growth in those settlements now?</p>
<p>LIEBERMAN: I do. I disagree.</em></p>
<p>Blatantly missing follow-up question: &#8220;What purpose do you believe is served by intentionally growing settlements on the West Bank?&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5686224', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5686205</link>
		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there are any prayers out there, let us pray for the dumping of this self serving looney. If he had an idea of his own, it would die of loneliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there are any prayers out there, let us pray for the dumping of this self serving looney. If he had an idea of his own, it would die of loneliness.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5686205', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Trittydi</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5686178</link>
		<dc:creator>Trittydi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Israeli Lobby OWNS LIEberman.
*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israeli Lobby OWNS LIEberman.<br />
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		<title>By: Trittydi</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5686176</link>
		<dc:creator>Trittydi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, privileged enough to have the best health care in America - Socialized single-payer health care paid for by Americans -- this POS doesn&#039;t want the voters to have even a halfway decent public option?

It&#039;s good enough for LIEberman - but not for us?
*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, privileged enough to have the best health care in America &#8211; Socialized single-payer health care paid for by Americans &#8212; this POS doesn&#8217;t want the voters to have even a halfway decent public option?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good enough for LIEberman &#8211; but not for us?<br />
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5686018</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>krystalview
You are so correct.
Liebermann owes his political life to Obama and how does he show his appreciation?  By giving him a qualified &quot;approval.&quot;  
I truly hope the a$$ goes down in the next election and a real Democrat takes his place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>krystalview<br />
You are so correct.<br />
Liebermann owes his political life to Obama and how does he show his appreciation?  By giving him a qualified &#8220;approval.&#8221;<br />
I truly hope the a$$ goes down in the next election and a real Democrat takes his place.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5686018', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eyeswideopen1</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5685991</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeswideopen1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liebermann can&#039;t seem to decide if he is a neocon or not.  Either way he doesn&#039;t deserve to be a Democrat or run any committees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liebermann can&#8217;t seem to decide if he is a neocon or not.  Either way he doesn&#8217;t deserve to be a Democrat or run any committees.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5685991', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: krystalview</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5685939</link>
		<dc:creator>krystalview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“Put me down now as pleasantly encouraged by the first five months,” Lieberman said of Obama&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;strong&gt;Lieberman should be kissing the ground President Obama walks on!!&lt;/strong&gt;  It was Obama who insisted on keeping Lieberman in the Democratic caucus with all the privileges a senior Senator has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“Put me down now as pleasantly encouraged by the first five months,” Lieberman said of Obama</em></p>
<p><strong>Lieberman should be kissing the ground President Obama walks on!!</strong>  It was Obama who insisted on keeping Lieberman in the Democratic caucus with all the privileges a senior Senator has.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5685939', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Winski</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5685927</link>
		<dc:creator>Winski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lieberman should just be voted out of office. He&#039;s useless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman should just be voted out of office. He&#8217;s useless&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5685927', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel thinks the land is given to them by God.
Palestine thinks the land is theirs by God.
Until God gets out of the picture, how is this resolved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel thinks the land is given to them by God.<br />
Palestine thinks the land is theirs by God.<br />
Until God gets out of the picture, how is this resolved.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5685925', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gummble-bee-itch</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5685913</link>
		<dc:creator>gummble-bee-itch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;tarazan Says:

By supporting the so called &#039;natural growth&#039;,Joe is repeating what Israeli government&#039;s religious fanactics are saying, those who think that God somehow gave them the order to steal Palestinians lands.&lt;/em&gt;

Last night, All Things Considered had a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105310088&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;piece &lt;/a&gt;on the financial support given to the colonies, er, settlements by American fundies.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Much of the support comes from fundamentalist Christians, who believe in biblical prophecies that Jews will inherit the land of Israel. Ardent followers also embrace literal interpretations of the Bible that a thriving state of Israel is a prerequisite for an apocalyptic end-time and the return of Jesus to earth. Often led by the charismatic leaders of megachurches, these grass-roots groups across the U.S. raise millions of dollars each year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Palestinians are not pleased:


&lt;blockquote&gt;
Palestinians in Hebron say that they are outraged by the support these American groups give.

Because 650 Jewish settlers live in the heart of Hebron, Israel has erected checkpoints and closed off roads to the thousands of Palestinians in the city.

Huda Abar Khud has watched Christians pass by her Hebron neighborhood as they make their way to the Jewish settlers.

&quot;If they knew the impact and how it affects people&#039;s lives here, innocent people&#039;s lives here, I think they might change the way they support these settlements,&quot; she says.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t put money on that, Ms Khud. You&#039;re not dealing with individuals with open minds, or individuals who even admit that you&#039;re human. You&#039;re in the way. You&#039;re in the way of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/greater-israel-map4.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eretz Israel&lt;/a&gt; and you&#039;re in the way of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/left_behind_at_the_rapture.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Rapture&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>tarazan Says:</p>
<p>By supporting the so called &#8216;natural growth&#8217;,Joe is repeating what Israeli government&#8217;s religious fanactics are saying, those who think that God somehow gave them the order to steal Palestinians lands.</em></p>
<p>Last night, All Things Considered had a <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105310088" rel="nofollow">piece </a>on the financial support given to the colonies, er, settlements by American fundies.</p>
<blockquote><p>Much of the support comes from fundamentalist Christians, who believe in biblical prophecies that Jews will inherit the land of Israel. Ardent followers also embrace literal interpretations of the Bible that a thriving state of Israel is a prerequisite for an apocalyptic end-time and the return of Jesus to earth. Often led by the charismatic leaders of megachurches, these grass-roots groups across the U.S. raise millions of dollars each year.</p></blockquote>
<p>Palestinians are not pleased:</p>
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Palestinians in Hebron say that they are outraged by the support these American groups give.</p>
<p>Because 650 Jewish settlers live in the heart of Hebron, Israel has erected checkpoints and closed off roads to the thousands of Palestinians in the city.</p>
<p>Huda Abar Khud has watched Christians pass by her Hebron neighborhood as they make their way to the Jewish settlers.</p>
<p>&#8220;If they knew the impact and how it affects people&#8217;s lives here, innocent people&#8217;s lives here, I think they might change the way they support these settlements,&#8221; she says.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put money on that, Ms Khud. You&#8217;re not dealing with individuals with open minds, or individuals who even admit that you&#8217;re human. You&#8217;re in the way. You&#8217;re in the way of <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/greater-israel-map4.jpg" rel="nofollow">Eretz Israel</a> and you&#8217;re in the way of <a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/left_behind_at_the_rapture.htm" rel="nofollow">The Rapture</a>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5685913', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5685908</link>
		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RCIHF [Red Crooks Insurance Fund]: &#039;Hello, Red Crooks health insurance hedge fund&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;I&#039;d like to invest in some health insurance&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;Great, how much can you afford to invest?&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;I make minimum wage, what congress, with business lobbyist help, says is plenty.&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;I see, you are a poverty investor.&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;I have a few hundred a month left after food, rent, gas and clothing.&quot;

RCIF: &quot;Our minimum health investment is $2000 a month with a $10,000 deductible since poverty workers usually work in high risk environments...&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;Wow, that sounds like alot, I cant afford that.&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;You value life dont you?&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;Sure, but, you know I dont make much, the government, along with business, doesnt value my lifes work.&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;We have the lowest rates nationwide, if you dont have any existing conditions.&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;I had a car crash once, messed up my back, not my fault&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;Oh well, our investors of your money, with your pre-existing high risk, would need you to invest at least $2500 a month with a $25,000 deductible&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;Sham-Wow. Thats more than I make. What is the return on my investment on myself?&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;Your life, if we dont find any reason to reject your claim, plus 10% annually&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;Whats your rate of rejection?&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;We are a very conservative investor with your money and the rejection rate is 90%, wouldnt want others spending your investment on health care now would you?&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;I, I, I guess not&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;Great, can we sign you up?&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;Well let me see if I can sell a kidney and I will get back to you&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;We buy kidneys&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;Really?&quot;

RCIHF: &quot;Sure. We also sell and invest in tobacco products, can I sell you some chewing tobacco, cigarettes or snuff today?&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;Im more of a drinker.&quot;

RCHIF: &quot;Sorry to hear that, your rates will be higher than previously quoted. But we do invest and sell liquor as well.&quot;

Joe Public: &quot;Great. Send me a gallon of Jack Daniels and forget the insurance investment.&quot;

RCHIF: &quot;Good for your sir, keep that kidney preserved in alcohol before we harvest it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RCIHF [Red Crooks Insurance Fund]: &#8216;Hello, Red Crooks health insurance hedge fund&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;I&#8217;d like to invest in some health insurance&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;Great, how much can you afford to invest?&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;I make minimum wage, what congress, with business lobbyist help, says is plenty.&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;I see, you are a poverty investor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;I have a few hundred a month left after food, rent, gas and clothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIF: &#8220;Our minimum health investment is $2000 a month with a $10,000 deductible since poverty workers usually work in high risk environments&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;Wow, that sounds like alot, I cant afford that.&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;You value life dont you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;Sure, but, you know I dont make much, the government, along with business, doesnt value my lifes work.&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;We have the lowest rates nationwide, if you dont have any existing conditions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;I had a car crash once, messed up my back, not my fault&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;Oh well, our investors of your money, with your pre-existing high risk, would need you to invest at least $2500 a month with a $25,000 deductible&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;Sham-Wow. Thats more than I make. What is the return on my investment on myself?&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;Your life, if we dont find any reason to reject your claim, plus 10% annually&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;Whats your rate of rejection?&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;We are a very conservative investor with your money and the rejection rate is 90%, wouldnt want others spending your investment on health care now would you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;I, I, I guess not&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;Great, can we sign you up?&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;Well let me see if I can sell a kidney and I will get back to you&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;We buy kidneys&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;Really?&#8221;</p>
<p>RCIHF: &#8220;Sure. We also sell and invest in tobacco products, can I sell you some chewing tobacco, cigarettes or snuff today?&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;Im more of a drinker.&#8221;</p>
<p>RCHIF: &#8220;Sorry to hear that, your rates will be higher than previously quoted. But we do invest and sell liquor as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Public: &#8220;Great. Send me a gallon of Jack Daniels and forget the insurance investment.&#8221;</p>
<p>RCHIF: &#8220;Good for your sir, keep that kidney preserved in alcohol before we harvest it.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5685908', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Curlew</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5685895</link>
		<dc:creator>Curlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really care what the Senator from Tel Aviv thinks or says?  Other than Joe himself, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really care what the Senator from Tel Aviv thinks or says?  Other than Joe himself, of course.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5685895', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/13/lieberman-on-obama-presidency/comment-page-2/#comment-5685881</link>
		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read where this investor, Bud Conrad IIRC, said a one day visit to the hospital for a broken arm has cost 100k and he is still getting bills, but the current admins plan wont work because the health industry, although broken, would spin out of control.

If its broken its already pretty much out of control. The insurance business has basically become a hedge fund, all for profit. and damn those investors with their risky health problems screwing it all up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read where this investor, Bud Conrad IIRC, said a one day visit to the hospital for a broken arm has cost 100k and he is still getting bills, but the current admins plan wont work because the health industry, although broken, would spin out of control.</p>
<p>If its broken its already pretty much out of control. The insurance business has basically become a hedge fund, all for profit. and damn those investors with their risky health problems screwing it all up.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5685881', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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