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	<title>Comments on: The Right Wing Claims Ahmadinejad&#8217;s Reelection Was A Fraud, But Obama&#8217;s Responsible For It Anyway</title>
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		<title>By: Jane E. Schneider</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/14/neocons-blame-obama-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-5688407</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane E. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Plantinseeds Says:&lt;/em&gt;

Thanks for stopping by, Plantinseeds.  Don&#039;t worry, I don&#039;t think that you have offended anyone.  

Just a little background for you (and for TPaine2009, too):  

First of all, on the weekend TP has a lot fewer threads, so the few that &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; up tend to wander way far away from topic; 

Second, the &#039;regulars&#039; here get a tad upset when a stranger, or one of the usual trolls, opens up his or her first comment with a blanket insult about liberals/progressives, and we usually smack back pretty quickly, usually in kind**; 

And third, there are lots of intelligent people here who would truly enjoy intelligent and polite discourse with like people who hold opposing views--this used to happen more often in the before-time, but obviously this past campaign, election, and inauguration have had an affect on the public discourse as well as on the internets.

**Most of the swapping of insults that you see above are between TP regulars and, to us, well-known trolls who contribute nothing to the conversation.  Mr. Paine, the &#039;Bush = Bad&#039; stuff started with the troll Proud&#039;s comment (&lt;em&gt;Proud Says: Let me save all of you lots of time. I will sum up every post on TP: Obama....Good  Bush....Bad&lt;/em&gt;). I&#039;m sorry, but we have simply lost our patience with Proud and his ilk.

Anyway, welcome, hope you stop by and comment again.</description>
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<p>Thanks for stopping by, Plantinseeds.  Don&#8217;t worry, I don&#8217;t think that you have offended anyone.  </p>
<p>Just a little background for you (and for TPaine2009, too):  </p>
<p>First of all, on the weekend TP has a lot fewer threads, so the few that <em>are</em> up tend to wander way far away from topic; </p>
<p>Second, the &#8216;regulars&#8217; here get a tad upset when a stranger, or one of the usual trolls, opens up his or her first comment with a blanket insult about liberals/progressives, and we usually smack back pretty quickly, usually in kind**; </p>
<p>And third, there are lots of intelligent people here who would truly enjoy intelligent and polite discourse with like people who hold opposing views&#8211;this used to happen more often in the before-time, but obviously this past campaign, election, and inauguration have had an affect on the public discourse as well as on the internets.</p>
<p>**Most of the swapping of insults that you see above are between TP regulars and, to us, well-known trolls who contribute nothing to the conversation.  Mr. Paine, the &#8216;Bush = Bad&#8217; stuff started with the troll Proud&#8217;s comment (<em>Proud Says: Let me save all of you lots of time. I will sum up every post on TP: Obama&#8230;.Good  Bush&#8230;.Bad</em>). I&#8217;m sorry, but we have simply lost our patience with Proud and his ilk.</p>
<p>Anyway, welcome, hope you stop by and comment again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5688407', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RAIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is Mitt talking about?  When did Obama apologize?  Geez, I must have missed that milestone&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is Mitt talking about?  When did Obama apologize?  Geez, I must have missed that milestone&gt;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687518', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mjazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all Bush and Israel&#039;s fault anyway. As soon as Obama throws Israel under the bus there will be peace in the mideast and the homegrown jihadits will be appeased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all Bush and Israel&#8217;s fault anyway. As soon as Obama throws Israel under the bus there will be peace in the mideast and the homegrown jihadits will be appeased.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687282', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Plantinseeds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plantinseeds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi folks,

This is my 1st time here. I just found this site about an hour ago. I have read through some of the comments that I have seen here.
As I put in my profile I am neither a republican nor a democrat. I am an independant.
As the header statement of the President being partially responsible for the Iranian election is kinda nuts IMHO.
I do see though that alot of people like bashing others opinions. I think that everyone has the right to express their own. But I cannot understand why people find it nessasary to call each other names for expressing those opinions. Again just my own opinion.
I am not very astute on politics. All I know is that being a member of either party brings with it there own problems.
I have never figured out what right-wing, left-wing was suppose to ressemble. 
Again IMHO I don&#039;t think anyone in a public office is corruption free. I know in business, it is certainly not corruption free. You know when we have something bad happen, like when we have a hurricane, tornado, flood or even a car accident, people put there differences aside and try to help others out. In those situations it doesn&#039;t matter what color you are, how much money you have or don&#039;t have or if you are a democrat or a republican.
To say that any one party has all the right answers well thats just not the case. IMHO I don&#039;t think that &lt;strong&gt;any&lt;/strong&gt; party has the right answers. It&#039;s the individual. Its about wisdom, compassion, justice, the Constitution of the United States, and whats the best for the most.
But I am one with just one opinion. I hope not to ever intentionally offend anyone but at the same time I hope to have a benefical debate over our goverment, morals and nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,</p>
<p>This is my 1st time here. I just found this site about an hour ago. I have read through some of the comments that I have seen here.<br />
As I put in my profile I am neither a republican nor a democrat. I am an independant.<br />
As the header statement of the President being partially responsible for the Iranian election is kinda nuts IMHO.<br />
I do see though that alot of people like bashing others opinions. I think that everyone has the right to express their own. But I cannot understand why people find it nessasary to call each other names for expressing those opinions. Again just my own opinion.<br />
I am not very astute on politics. All I know is that being a member of either party brings with it there own problems.<br />
I have never figured out what right-wing, left-wing was suppose to ressemble.<br />
Again IMHO I don&#8217;t think anyone in a public office is corruption free. I know in business, it is certainly not corruption free. You know when we have something bad happen, like when we have a hurricane, tornado, flood or even a car accident, people put there differences aside and try to help others out. In those situations it doesn&#8217;t matter what color you are, how much money you have or don&#8217;t have or if you are a democrat or a republican.<br />
To say that any one party has all the right answers well thats just not the case. IMHO I don&#8217;t think that <strong>any</strong> party has the right answers. It&#8217;s the individual. Its about wisdom, compassion, justice, the Constitution of the United States, and whats the best for the most.<br />
But I am one with just one opinion. I hope not to ever intentionally offend anyone but at the same time I hope to have a benefical debate over our goverment, morals and nation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687269', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Don. You leave. We&#039;re the majority. Eat sh*t you pantspissing cowards. You lose. Sucks to be you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Don. You leave. We&#8217;re the majority. Eat sh*t you pantspissing cowards. You lose. Sucks to be you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687266', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Don Tosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Tosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EugeneDebs Says: 
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I see no reason to be nice to people who stop in and start a conversation by calling us fools. I see a reason to slap the stupid out of them

And I&#039;d like to slap it out of you, but that would be a never ending job, since you have an unlimited supply of stupidity.  You and Zooey and all the rest of you delusional, worthless, whiney, America hating, liberal whackjobs can go screw yourselves.  Better yet, leave the country.  And take your hate filled, extremist website with you.  It&#039;s been real....assbags!!!</description>
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<p>I see no reason to be nice to people who stop in and start a conversation by calling us fools. I see a reason to slap the stupid out of them</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d like to slap it out of you, but that would be a never ending job, since you have an unlimited supply of stupidity.  You and Zooey and all the rest of you delusional, worthless, whiney, America hating, liberal whackjobs can go screw yourselves.  Better yet, leave the country.  And take your hate filled, extremist website with you.  It&#8217;s been real&#8230;.assbags!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687264', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;wiley Says:

What they drinking, these people who &quot;stumble onto&quot; TP?&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m thinking links from freepers or somewhere similar.  Unfortunately they never say when dropping their drive-by post and then heading off into the sunset with their tail between their legs.

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&lt;em&gt;TPaine2009 Says:

Wow...I thought Think Progress was supposed to be at least &quot;a tiny bit open-minded!&quot; lol It&#039;s really sad that people define themselves entirely by one of two words.&lt;/em&gt;

What would you like us to be open minded about?  Care to present an opinion relevant to a topical newsworthy issue?  An open-minded person would at least give us a try...

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&lt;em&gt;Brain From Planet Arous Says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Vice President Biden said of the Ahmadinejad’s victory, “It didn’t seem on its face as clear-cut” as Ahmadinejad has suggested. “I have doubts” that it was a fair election, he added.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course Joe &quot;I Am A Zionist&quot; Biden would parrot his Israeli masters on this one. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;

Umm... from what we know so far, Ahmadinejad shut down all news media and communication, had the police beating people in the streets, and then reported that he had won by 62% across the board.  This is exactly what a rigged election always looks like.  This has nothing to do with Israel.

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&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;bienvenido1844 Says:

Levi the Dungbeetle Says

&quot;PONDER THIS! THE MIND IS NOT A VESSEL TO BE FILLED, BUT FIRE TO BE IGNITED&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

There&#039;s some gasoline in various cars on the street and you can get a book of matches for free at any convenience store.  You have fun with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>wiley Says:</p>
<p>What they drinking, these people who &#8220;stumble onto&#8221; TP?</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking links from freepers or somewhere similar.  Unfortunately they never say when dropping their drive-by post and then heading off into the sunset with their tail between their legs.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p><em>TPaine2009 Says:</p>
<p>Wow&#8230;I thought Think Progress was supposed to be at least &#8220;a tiny bit open-minded!&#8221; lol It&#8217;s really sad that people define themselves entirely by one of two words.</em></p>
<p>What would you like us to be open minded about?  Care to present an opinion relevant to a topical newsworthy issue?  An open-minded person would at least give us a try&#8230;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p><em>Brain From Planet Arous Says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Vice President Biden said of the Ahmadinejad’s victory, “It didn’t seem on its face as clear-cut” as Ahmadinejad has suggested. “I have doubts” that it was a fair election, he added.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course Joe &#8220;I Am A Zionist&#8221; Biden would parrot his Israeli masters on this one. </em><em></p>
<p>Umm&#8230; from what we know so far, Ahmadinejad shut down all news media and communication, had the police beating people in the streets, and then reported that he had won by 62% across the board.  This is exactly what a rigged election always looks like.  This has nothing to do with Israel.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p></em><em>bienvenido1844 Says:</p>
<p>Levi the Dungbeetle Says</p>
<p>&#8220;PONDER THIS! THE MIND IS NOT A VESSEL TO BE FILLED, BUT FIRE TO BE IGNITED&#8221;</em></p>
<p>There&#8217;s some gasoline in various cars on the street and you can get a book of matches for free at any convenience store.  You have fun with that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687263', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How &lt;strong&gt;bold&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How <strong>bold</strong>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687221', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bienvenido1844</title>
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		<dc:creator>bienvenido1844</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Levi the Dungbeetle Says

bienvenido,

Your post is worthless. All that blather about God and faith doesn&#039;t matter because it&#039;s just mythology.
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LEVI the Dungbeetle:

&quot;If you have a brain in your head==== then use it, &quot; common sense! I&#039;m sorry if i am offended you, but you did offended me as well? What makes my post WORTHLESS??? if so? then all these post are WORTHLESS too? dont you think so? And who are you to say that GOD and Faith is just MYTHOLOGY??? huh? your thoughts that you have posted is a product of your own FAITH? 

&quot;PONDER THIS! THE MIND IS NOT A VESSEL TO BE FILLED, BUT FIRE TO BE IGNITED&quot;

if still you are not convinced with what i have posted- then go to Iran and join the group thats the battlefield for you!

I&#039;m sorry of being rude here but - dont you ever say that my words are WORTHLESS? ok?

seems worthless to you because you dont understand what i said? as in your level of COMPREHENSION is very very poor! even lower than the DUST!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Levi the Dungbeetle Says</p>
<p>bienvenido,</p>
<p>Your post is worthless. All that blather about God and faith doesn&#8217;t matter because it&#8217;s just mythology.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
LEVI the Dungbeetle:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you have a brain in your head==== then use it, &#8221; common sense! I&#8217;m sorry if i am offended you, but you did offended me as well? What makes my post WORTHLESS??? if so? then all these post are WORTHLESS too? dont you think so? And who are you to say that GOD and Faith is just MYTHOLOGY??? huh? your thoughts that you have posted is a product of your own FAITH? </p>
<p>&#8220;PONDER THIS! THE MIND IS NOT A VESSEL TO BE FILLED, BUT FIRE TO BE IGNITED&#8221;</p>
<p>if still you are not convinced with what i have posted- then go to Iran and join the group thats the battlefield for you!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry of being rude here but &#8211; dont you ever say that my words are WORTHLESS? ok?</p>
<p>seems worthless to you because you dont understand what i said? as in your level of COMPREHENSION is very very poor! even lower than the DUST!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687203', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: UCSBKitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>UCSBKitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Proud Says:

Let me save all of you lots of time. I will sum up every post on TP:

Obama.......Good

Bush........Bad&lt;/em&gt;

Wow, Proud, I&#039;m so impressed by your profound insight here...

Please, don&#039;t stop eating your cheetos, although let me recommend 7-11&#039;s scorching hot kind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Proud Says:</p>
<p>Let me save all of you lots of time. I will sum up every post on TP:</p>
<p>Obama&#8230;&#8230;.Good</p>
<p>Bush&#8230;&#8230;..Bad</em></p>
<p>Wow, Proud, I&#8217;m so impressed by your profound insight here&#8230;</p>
<p>Please, don&#8217;t stop eating your cheetos, although let me recommend 7-11&#8217;s scorching hot kind&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687201', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;An original idea for democracy in the 21st century&quot;. Wow. How noble. 

I think it would be original not to discuss the Iranian situation as if it were ours. There is very little factual news coming out about it right now, and a lot of polarizing articles from the West that portray the opposition candidate as if he were a liberal Democrat. 

The Ayatollah has the last word, that&#039;s the way it&#039;s been since &#039;79, if I&#039;m not mistaken. However it works out for Iran, it&#039;s not our problem our fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An original idea for democracy in the 21st century&#8221;. Wow. How noble. </p>
<p>I think it would be original not to discuss the Iranian situation as if it were ours. There is very little factual news coming out about it right now, and a lot of polarizing articles from the West that portray the opposition candidate as if he were a liberal Democrat. </p>
<p>The Ayatollah has the last word, that&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s been since &#8216;79, if I&#8217;m not mistaken. However it works out for Iran, it&#8217;s not our problem our fault.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687198', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Blog Logic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog Logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TPaine2009 Says:
&lt;strong&gt;Random Thoughts&lt;/strong&gt;
Open-mindedness, logic and passion are not mutually exclusive.

If you take a look around you&#039;ll find that this is, by comparison, one of the better forums of it&#039;s type. People around here generally take the caps lock off and usually don&#039;t feel the need to post the same thing multiple times. 

Keep in mind that the only qualification necessary for this or most any of these forums is an internet connection.

It only takes two for an intelligent discussion and I can &lt;em&gt;absolutely guarantee&lt;/em&gt;  that there are more than two intelligent people around here.

 You mentioned that you are a &quot;glass is half full type person&#039;. I don&#039;t know exactly how full it is around here but at least there is a glass. Spend a few moments over at &quot;Gateway Pundit&quot; if you want to see something truly depressing. 

Cheers!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TPaine2009 Says:<br />
<strong>Random Thoughts</strong><br />
Open-mindedness, logic and passion are not mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>If you take a look around you&#8217;ll find that this is, by comparison, one of the better forums of it&#8217;s type. People around here generally take the caps lock off and usually don&#8217;t feel the need to post the same thing multiple times. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that the only qualification necessary for this or most any of these forums is an internet connection.</p>
<p>It only takes two for an intelligent discussion and I can <em>absolutely guarantee</em>  that there are more than two intelligent people around here.</p>
<p> You mentioned that you are a &#8220;glass is half full type person&#8217;. I don&#8217;t know exactly how full it is around here but at least there is a glass. Spend a few moments over at &#8220;Gateway Pundit&#8221; if you want to see something truly depressing. </p>
<p>Cheers!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687195', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Brain From Planet Arous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain From Planet Arous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Vice President Biden said of the Ahmadinejad’s victory, “It didn’t seem on its face as clear-cut” as Ahmadinejad has suggested. “I have doubts” that it was a fair election, he added.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course Joe &quot;I Am A Zionist&quot; Biden would parrot his Israeli masters on this one. Mutt Rommel, another Corporate tool, would also follow the money trail. Demublicans and Republicrats, always on the same page when it comes to war and corporate power.</description>
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<p>Of course Joe &#8220;I Am A Zionist&#8221; Biden would parrot his Israeli masters on this one. Mutt Rommel, another Corporate tool, would also follow the money trail. Demublicans and Republicrats, always on the same page when it comes to war and corporate power.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687193', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TPaine2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>TPaine2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Wayne! 

How are you on this fine American Sunday night? 

I guess I just believe the term “THINK” is being misrepresented here. An open-minded person logically, not passionately, is capable of weighing the issues thoughtfully, wiping aside personal biases, and discussing the chosen topic with neither anger nor pessimism. I don’t know anything about you, Wayne, but I am a glass-is-half-full kind of person so I’ll assume you are an intelligent individual. That being said, how can you take part in this nonsense with a straight face? I mean seriously, Wayne, this is a blog, a purported inteligent blog, yet most people spend 90 percent of their time railing against those wicked neo-cons or blasting the occasional blogger who has a different point of view! I have literally seen 30 BUSH = BAD blurbs! 

That’s not too far from SEE JACK RUN!

I actually believed we might be talking about the Iran election, whether or not it actually was fraudulent, and if so what that means for the next five years. There are a trillion Bush is Satan blogs on the Web. I came here to find some original ideas and maybe engage in some enlightening discussions about the democracy in the 21st century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Wayne! </p>
<p>How are you on this fine American Sunday night? </p>
<p>I guess I just believe the term “THINK” is being misrepresented here. An open-minded person logically, not passionately, is capable of weighing the issues thoughtfully, wiping aside personal biases, and discussing the chosen topic with neither anger nor pessimism. I don’t know anything about you, Wayne, but I am a glass-is-half-full kind of person so I’ll assume you are an intelligent individual. That being said, how can you take part in this nonsense with a straight face? I mean seriously, Wayne, this is a blog, a purported inteligent blog, yet most people spend 90 percent of their time railing against those wicked neo-cons or blasting the occasional blogger who has a different point of view! I have literally seen 30 BUSH = BAD blurbs! </p>
<p>That’s not too far from SEE JACK RUN!</p>
<p>I actually believed we might be talking about the Iran election, whether or not it actually was fraudulent, and if so what that means for the next five years. There are a trillion Bush is Satan blogs on the Web. I came here to find some original ideas and maybe engage in some enlightening discussions about the democracy in the 21st century.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687190', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gah... scarborough (UPDATE) may be closest...

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;
Iran elections: The hope that Iran threw away&lt;/strong&gt;
A vital chance to rebuild economic relations with the West was lost in the disputed election, writes David Blair.

[...]
[...]they must live under a theocratic regime, dominated by the enigmatic figure of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader. &lt;strong&gt;The lesson of this election is clear: the hard men who wield real power in Iran – and the newly re-elected President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is only their most visible representative – are determined never to loosen their grip.&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]

Ayatollah Khamenei and his allies are clearly aware of the potential threat all this poses to the regime. Regular elections are the one safety valve they allow for discontent. The result of the presidential poll announced on Saturday, however, shows the limits.

&lt;strong&gt;If the shadowy figures who really rule Iran decide that victory for their favoured candidate is sufficiently important – and Mr Ahmadinejad is clearly their chosen frontman – then the authorities will duly guarantee that he wins. &lt;/strong&gt;Anyone who protests against this outcome risks the wrath of the Islamic Republic&#039;s plethora of security forces.

In this case, however, the Supreme Leader and his allies may not be acting in their own interests. If their goal is to press ahead with their nuclear programme, while avoiding international pressure and a possible war with America or Israel, they have almost certainly made the wrong move.
[...]&lt;/em&gt;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/5536288/Iran-elections-The-hope-that-Iran-threw-away.html

check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gah&#8230; scarborough (UPDATE) may be closest&#8230;</p>
<p><em><strong><br />
Iran elections: The hope that Iran threw away</strong><br />
A vital chance to rebuild economic relations with the West was lost in the disputed election, writes David Blair.</p>
<p>[...]<br />
[...]they must live under a theocratic regime, dominated by the enigmatic figure of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader. <strong>The lesson of this election is clear: the hard men who wield real power in Iran – and the newly re-elected President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is only their most visible representative – are determined never to loosen their grip.</strong></p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Ayatollah Khamenei and his allies are clearly aware of the potential threat all this poses to the regime. Regular elections are the one safety valve they allow for discontent. The result of the presidential poll announced on Saturday, however, shows the limits.</p>
<p><strong>If the shadowy figures who really rule Iran decide that victory for their favoured candidate is sufficiently important – and Mr Ahmadinejad is clearly their chosen frontman – then the authorities will duly guarantee that he wins. </strong>Anyone who protests against this outcome risks the wrath of the Islamic Republic&#8217;s plethora of security forces.</p>
<p>In this case, however, the Supreme Leader and his allies may not be acting in their own interests. If their goal is to press ahead with their nuclear programme, while avoiding international pressure and a possible war with America or Israel, they have almost certainly made the wrong move.<br />
[...]</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/5536288/Iran-elections-The-hope-that-Iran-threw-away.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/5536288/Iran-elections-The-hope-that-Iran-threw-away.html</a></p>
<p>check it out.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687187', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shall wee talk about &#039;election fraud&#039;??!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shall wee talk about &#8216;election fraud&#8217;??!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687179', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the Right wing... remember the election of 2000?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the Right wing&#8230; remember the election of 2000?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687178', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Ant Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Ant Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;TPaine2009 Says:

Wow...I thought Think Progress was supposed to be at least &quot;a tiny bit open-minded!&quot; lol It&#039;s really sad that people define themselves entirely by one of two words.&lt;/em&gt;

Would you care to elaborate?  What do you mean?</description>
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<p>Wow&#8230;I thought Think Progress was supposed to be at least &#8220;a tiny bit open-minded!&#8221; lol It&#8217;s really sad that people define themselves entirely by one of two words.</em></p>
<p>Would you care to elaborate?  What do you mean?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687175', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TPaine2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>TPaine2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...I thought Think Progress was supposed to be at least &quot;a tiny bit open-minded!&quot; lol It&#039;s really sad that people define themselves entirely by one of two words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;I thought Think Progress was supposed to be at least &#8220;a tiny bit open-minded!&#8221; lol It&#8217;s really sad that people define themselves entirely by one of two words.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687169', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the neo-CONs have finally gotten over blaming everything on Clinton and now have Obama to blame.  Okay, I will play along and blame Obama for my calico cat&#039;s death last month and the dahlias that wilted in my garden last week.  Now that really makes me feel better.
As for Chickenhawk Supreme Mitt Romney, we really should feel sorry for him for getting out of the Vietnam War draft by serving as a missionary in France.  Don&#039;t you all realize how hard it must have been for a Mormon to resist all that good French wine tempting him everywhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the neo-CONs have finally gotten over blaming everything on Clinton and now have Obama to blame.  Okay, I will play along and blame Obama for my calico cat&#8217;s death last month and the dahlias that wilted in my garden last week.  Now that really makes me feel better.<br />
As for Chickenhawk Supreme Mitt Romney, we really should feel sorry for him for getting out of the Vietnam War draft by serving as a missionary in France.  Don&#8217;t you all realize how hard it must have been for a Mormon to resist all that good French wine tempting him everywhere?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5687166', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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