Beck: ‘[W]e’re in the same situation here’ as in Iran.
Beck: ‘[W]e’re in the same situation here’ as in Iran.
Today, the Washington Post hosted Fox News’ Glenn Beck, who is currently promoting his latest book, for a brief online chat. The first question asked whether Beck believed that “we’re facing the destruction of our country.” “Yeah,” Beck replied, and compared the United States to the current political upheaval in Iran:
CHICAGO: Glenn, On June 6 you said”(I)f we don’t have some common sense, we’re facing the destruction of our country… it’s coming” Do you really believe that the USA is facing destruction?
GLENN BECK: Yeah, I said on Sept. 11 that we should fear no outside force, the only that would destroy America is us, from the inside. I look at what’s happening in Iran, and they are arquing [sic] on who is going to be a better leader in their theocracy. Both candidates were picked buy [sic] the mullahs, neither candidate can do anything without the mullahs telling them it’s okay.
I think we’re in the same situation here. Bill Mahr said this weekend that Barack Obama was George Bush Lite. What are we fighting over? What is the difference between these two parties? There are reasons to speak out, but tearing ourselves apart over these scraps of freedom is odd. We’ve stopped melting together. Our strength was that we were a melting pot.
Beyond the comparison to Iran, it’s odd that Beck purports to lament the disappearance of the “melting pot,” considering how frequently he rails against minorities.
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We’ve stopped melting together. Our strength was that we were a melting pot.
Hey Glenn
Think maybe that has something to do with right-wing hate radio/TV like your show ?
June 15th, 2009 at 3:00 pmMan, I wish I had Beck’s gig! I would love to say totally unhinged s#!t on the air and get paid millions for it! He don’t care if he’s not internally consistent in his words. Melting pot, xenophobia, it depends on whether he is fully up on his meds. I’ll give him his props. He is entertaining – kinda like not being able to take your eyes off the impending train wreck!
June 15th, 2009 at 3:01 pmBill Mahr (sic) said this weekend that Barack Obama was George Bush Lite. What are we fighting over?
– - That op-ed piece by Maher was one of the lamest excuses for commentary that I’ve seen from the Left for quite some time. It was nonsensical and without merit. Bill’s been into the weed too much the last year or so and his show pretty much blows most of the time.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:02 pm“Melting pot” is just a euphemistic way of saying “act like an American the second you hit our shores” so idiots like Beck can pretend that their ancestors came over on the Mayflower, reciting the pledge of allegiance from memory the entire voyage, never lived in a tenement and spoke flawless English from day one. No clue what the rest of his babble-speak means. The crazy is strong in this one.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:04 pm“We’ve stopped melting together. Our strength was that we were a melting pot.”
As long as we all melt into white, eh Beck?
June 15th, 2009 at 3:06 pmBeck is a bonafide crazy man.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:07 pmI thought Beck was all for himself bringing a Christian theocracy to every household, no matter what denomination objected.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:08 pmInteresting how reightwingers keep proving that their beliefs, ‘principles’ and ideas are situational and they can really turn on a dime…
June 15th, 2009 at 3:12 pmNow, where did I put my Beck-to-English dictionary?
This man seems to be permanently under the influence. What comes out of his mouth is usually gibberish.
Melting pot? WTF?
June 15th, 2009 at 3:12 pmYa, this is just like the way BuschCo stole his election, isn’t it Beck?
June 15th, 2009 at 3:15 pmPoor beckie, he suffers from the same illnesses as bull shit bush plus the added “true relegious” infatuation….Booze, drugs and dogma are a strange mix…P. B. & J
June 15th, 2009 at 3:16 pmI thought Beck’s melting pot was everyone who believed in that Utah/1950’s way of doing things.
You know, where you just exist and don’t question the world around you no matter what goes on in it. Where romanticism and country are on every corner and minorities still have shackles.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:17 pmI thought Beck claimed to have been a recovering alcoholic. He acts like a falling down drunk and sounds as dishonest as any drug addict alcoholic ever.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:17 pmidiot
June 15th, 2009 at 3:18 pmI wish the mental hospital Beck escaped from would claim him already — or maybe they don’t want him back!
June 15th, 2009 at 3:18 pmUhh… My Beck-to-Sane dictionary tells me… wait, is this a call for moderate bipartisanship? Yeah, that’s what he’s calling for there.
I think he may have gone metacrazy: so crazy he actually starts saying reasonable things but in crazy-talk. He’s actually lapped us all in the crazy race.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:20 pmNow the clown is quoting Bill Maher . .
This fool is irrelevant to LIFE!
June 15th, 2009 at 3:20 pmMaher is correct when he says Obama is Bush-lite. Obama needs to stop trying to get Republicans on board for anything because they are just going to continue to vote no. It is time for the Dems to ram through legislation including health care. If the Republicans want to filibuster then they will have to face the public. I don’t think the Republicans want to face the voters with a filibuster. I say dare them and let the chips fall where they may.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:21 pmGeorge Bush Lite? How soon we forget.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:22 pmit’s more than a little unsettling to see this daily parade of retards peddling thier i hate obama screed.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:23 pmWillWrite4Food Says:
I wish the mental hospital Beck escaped from would claim him already — or maybe they don’t want him back!
Arkham Asylum already has to deal with individuals like the Joker, so they really can’t get to the C-list fools like Beck until they admit themselves.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:24 pmShorter Beck: They, us, are surrounded by them, not outside, but inside, under your bed, in your attic, in your basement, the enemy is within you but without you. AHHHHHHHHH!! Skreemy Haid!!
June 15th, 2009 at 3:24 pmExpecting logical consistency from Glenn Beck is like expecting great art to appear from the poop flinging of a chimp.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:27 pmJust a small sliver of the stuff that Beck harped about in his comedy show. The “change in speed, not direction” line was straight from his material, and I’m guessing that alone is a chapter in his book.
(Yeah, cheap plug. I saw the show a few weeks ago. Don’t wait for the DVD; it will probably be twice the cost of a regular DVD.)
I don’t like his thoughts on the “melting together” part, either. If there is such a thing as a “melting pot”, the resulting mixture ought to be a compound that is unique in its own way, not one that is still identifiable as its major component. A “melting pot” ought to suggest that everyone has the same rights and liberties, regardless of race, culture, or sexual orientation, right? We shouldn’t be able to look into the pot and pick out who the whites, blacks, Jews, gays, and poor are.
There’s a big difference socially between a “mixture” and a “melt”.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:28 pmA good Bidenism is in great need today……….
June 15th, 2009 at 3:29 pmprobably the only thing he’s ever said that makes any sense…too bad he most likely doesn’t really believe it.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:31 pmInside Becks skeery skeery bwain:
The sky is falling, the mountains are crumbling, the earth is undergoing desertification, the super volcanoe is about to blow, the earth quakes are coming, the nuclear plants have massive leaks,the government is broke, the moon is crashing into the earth, the sun is going dark, a black hole approaches, the world largest collider is going to swallow us all and its all their fault!!!!! Im out of Dr Jack Daniels!!
June 15th, 2009 at 3:31 pmYeah, the panels have kind of been lacking. Conservatives have pretty much boycotted because they will be called to task. I actually miss Tony Snow.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:34 pmAnd Beck’s meltdown continues..
June 15th, 2009 at 3:34 pmso, glenda becky is promoting political upheaval like what’s going on in iran. remind me again why he hasn’t been cuffed for fomenting revolution, treason and sedition yet?
June 15th, 2009 at 3:34 pm1) I’m in complete shock that Beck would know what Bill Mahr said about anything.
2) I agree with Mahr on some things, not on others. I don’t agree with him that Obama isn’t doing anything (the audience didn’t either, if I recall), but I agree with him 100% that the Dems (Obama included) need to stop playing nice with the Republicans. They didn’t play nice with the Dems when they had power.
Now, I’m not advocating the same kind of Congress that we all hated during the Bush years. But let’s get serious, with regards to healthcare at least. Upwards of 80% of the population agrees that healthcare needs a major reform (and has for at least two years: http://www.pnhp.org/news/2007/march/public_opinion_on_he.php), with as many as 60-70% being okay with a tax increase if that’s what it takes. A TAX INCREASE. That’s huge in a society of “screw you, I don’t want to pay taxes, I just want all my government goodies for free.” A public option has wide support.
There is, frankly, no need to compromise on this issue. Do what the people want and get us a damn healthcare plan, with a public option. Those who vote against it will have to feel the public ire at election time. The people want this. Screw the lobbyists, guys, and do your damn jobs. The people hired you, and the people can fire you, too.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:36 pmOT, but does deal with another kookookrackpot:
June 15th, 2009 at 3:37 pm“Fire David Letterman” protest gains momentum
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“Fire David Letterman” protest gains momentum
good luck with that.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:38 pmOh, yeah, I forgot:
Beck’s an idiot, so who cares what he thinks?
June 15th, 2009 at 3:39 pmI honestly cannot discern what Beck is trying to say here. Usually, he speaks in frankly far-right terms. These statements are completely incomprehensible to me. Except…
“I look at what’s happening in Iran, and they are arquing [sic] on who is going to be a better leader in their theocracy. Both candidates were picked buy [sic] the mullahs, neither candidate can do anything without the mullahs telling them it’s okay.”
Is he saying (in some kind of weird coded way), the U.S. has their own controlling force..like Iran’s mullahs? Is he talking about Jews, or the Illuminati…or what?
“I think we’re in the same situation here. Bill Mahr said this weekend that Barack Obama was George Bush Lite. What are we fighting over? What is the difference between these two parties? There are reasons to speak out, but tearing ourselves apart over these scraps of freedom is odd.“
So is he agreeing with Mahr…or what? I didn’t see Mahr or read his op-ed where he supposedly said these things (?) so I admit I’m even more confused then usual trying to interpret Beck’s view of the world.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:40 pmBeck whor*s himeself for big bucks, saying any controversial lies & smears in order to line his pockets. He cares nothing for those he demeans, hurts, or incites. He is one of the main reasons the country is divided.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:41 pmThe only melting pot Beck likes is having fondue while sitting around in his magic undies.
PEACE
June 15th, 2009 at 3:41 pmDear Glenn,
Take off your faux-colored sunglasses and get a mirror and dig yourself: you are one of the right-wing moron extremists who is trying to destroy democracy in America. Eight years of right-wing Bush-Republican fascism, stupidity, greed, bullying and lying were not enough for you, I guess…
Yours truly,
Oval123
June 15th, 2009 at 3:43 pmsmidget Says:
Oh, yeah, I forgot:Beck’s an idiot, so who cares what he thinks?
Actually- Beck stated that anyone who believes anything he says is an idiot. He said that himself. Such respect for his listeners.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:43 pmI thought they wanted the country destroyed so the rapture would come…oh, it was someone elses country they wanted destroyed, guess they should be careful what they wish for.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:44 pmMaybe that’s because the GOP has spent most of the past 30 years creating an “us vs. them” mentality.
From the Southern Strategy involving racist dog whistles like “states rights” … to the “welfare queens” crap they fed the nation to oppose a social safety net … to the forced-pregnancy movement … to the Christianist elements that make up the GOP base … to the entirety of the Clinton administration, when they spent $40 million to learn about a blowjob … to the “you’re either with us or against us” crap after 9/11 … all the GOP has done is divide us all in order to reach the “50% + 1″ number that gave them way too much power for way too long.
Without divisiveness and exclusionary tactics, the GOP wouldn’t exist.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pmLizCoro Says:
Now the clown is quoting Bill Maher . .
They get a real jazz out of it whenever they get to quote a liberal to support their own argument. It’s like at some brain-stem level they’re actually aware that we’re smarter than them.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pmkaty Says:
OT, but does deal with another kookookrackpot:
“Fire David Letterman” protest gains momentum…
June 15th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Well, it looks like I’ll be forcing myself to stay up late for Letterman.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pmGLENN BECK: Yeah, I said on Sept. 11 that we should fear no outside force, the only that would destroy America is us, from the inside.
Yes, we know all about the Republican Insurgents.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pmBeyond the comparison to Iran, it’s odd that Beck purports to lament the disappearance of the “melting pot,” considering how frequently he rails against minorities.
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With all due respect, that’s because your idea and Beck’s idea of what the “melting pot” means are not only not the same — but probably diametrically opposed to each other.
When Beck and most other conservatives refer to the United States as a “melting pot”, they think of it as being a place in which everyone adheres and conforms to the standards which they personally believe define normalcy — and, of course, that they themselves are (very conveniently) the yardstick which constitutes normalcy. They think that anything which differs from what they personally understand, believe, and/or agree with is inherently and unquestionably abnormal (immoral, un-American, etc.) and should be discouraged or even prohibited. Their idea of the “melting pot” doesn’t resemble a casserole in which every ingredient remains some of its own distinct character even while adding something special to the whole. They think the “melting pot” ought to be a place where most individual differences almost completely disappear, where everyone is exactly alike — i.e., a heterosexual Christian conservative Republican. This is one of the reasons why I’m not a conservative or a Republican — they think the United States should be like one gigantic country club, and I happen to think that would be one of the most boring things anyone could possibly imagine.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pmBeck will say whatever ‘pays’ and whatever ‘plays’—that’s his schtick.
His hero is Rush Limbaugh but not because he believes in Limbaugh’s political philosophy.
Beck admires Limbaugh purely for his financial and social success, for his business model.
Limbaugh has the mainstream conservative audience sewn up, so Beck had to find his own niche to emulate Rush and acquire a captive audience.
Beck now represents the most lunatic fringe of the Right. That’s who he panders to, and that’s how he earns his money. It’s easy money because the Right-wing are reactionaries who respond to appeals to the reptilian brain.
Beck is Limbaugh 2.0. Limbaugh evolved into a political player by accidental synergy. Beck’s rise is far more calculated, and actually shallower. Beck IS the ‘entertainer’ that Limbaugh pretends to be, but he’s entertaining himself by making suckers out of his mindless audience.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:01 pmdasm:
Wow. I hadn’t been informed of that. That’s…..well, that’s enlightening.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:02 pmZionists love (and use) Glenn Beck because he’s as psychotic as they are.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pmNo Becky. In order for us to be like Iran we would need to be ruled by religious extremists and be rioting against them. We managed to kick the religious extremists out without riots.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:14 pmBeck is a professional political clown, milking his audience for all they’re worth. It looks to me like his audience needs some old fashioned talk therapy from a competent psychiatrist or counselor that will insist that they get to the bottom of their drama. Sublimating with Beck is not healthy.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:22 pmBill Mahr said this weekend that Barack Obama was George Bush Lite.
Spot on.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:25 pmI clicked the links, but didn’t see any “railing against minorities”. I saw him discussing border security, saw him make the claim that the democratic party sees Sotamayor as some sort of “Magic Latina”, saw him object to a culture of over-sensitivity, and saw him question a politician about how he would respond to what he saw as a likely political attack.
Also, I think his comments in this interview were meant to suggest that both Democrats and Republicans are puppets for special interests without concern for the general welfare of the country.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:29 pmBeck is a Sociopath. They’re all sociopaths.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm*
We’ve stopped melting together. Our strength was that we were a melting pot.
~~~Beck
Reminds me of Bush living in the bubble!! Come to Brooklyn and see a melting pot, melding beautifully, no trouble. In just 2 sections of Brooklyn, Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst, we have: Italians, Pakistians, Indians, Chinese, Korean, Russian, Jewish, Polish, Irish, Afro-Americans, Africans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans (hmmmmm) did I say Italians . .
Anyway, we’re getting along just fine. No racial wars, we’re all just working hard to pay our bills and hoping OUR gov’t. can help us a little bit financially . .
Go to hell Glenn Beck!!
June 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pmGLENN BECK: Yeah, I said on Sept. 11 that we should fear no outside force,
So that’s why we started two wars on foreign soil?
June 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pmForgot one: And it is all Obama’s fault.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pmIt would seem that our bodies are living side by side, but our ideas are not mixing at all.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pmBeck is putting out the George Bush was not a conservative baloney, we are “fair and balanced” because we are critical of both parties crapola. And the right wing supremist who murdered the guard at the holocaust memorial was a lefty BS. Delusions can be controlled with heavy sedation, don’t worry Glen, Obama’s health care reform will cover mental illness, even if it is a preexisting condition.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pmWell, the right wing has been more supportive of the state of Israel, which was created as a result of the Holocaust, and is attacked by organizations that publicly claim to want to repeat it.
Just saying. . . .
June 15th, 2009 at 5:01 pm“I think we’re in the same situation here. Bill Mahr said this weekend that Barack Obama was George Bush Lite. What are we fighting over? What is the difference between these two parties? There are reasons to speak out, but tearing ourselves apart over these scraps of freedom is odd. We’ve stopped melting together. Our strength was that we were a melting pot.” -G. Beck
Pure gibberish.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm(G)rotesquely, sub-par GOP limbot
(L)unatic, who’s an
(E)rratic,
(N)agger, who says absolutely
(N)othing, worthwhile all day long.
(B)izarre, for sure
(E)gomaniac, no debate here
(C)apricious cretin, ya
(K)inky “down-low” klansman who’s alter ego’s real name is “Becky-Glenn” and she’s ready to come outta that closet, gurl.
Glenn’s cognitive thinking skills is something that should be examined along with the rest of Fixed News.
PS Who silenced princess condi rice, shes been quiet here lately, damn that’s right, she’s a Bush loyalist in public and the “mistress” on the side? Bush must have told her to stay quiet while Cheney promised to “torture” her if she opens her mouth again, with “crazy” Liz, giving her dad a high-5 and said, “right-on dad were gonna erase 8 years of your work by any means necessary to preserve your work?”
Meanwhile……..my dogs are waiting on me to take them out, I <3 my dogs.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:17 pmOdelay really was a great cd. Now who the hell is this oddball? Is this fellow just another reason to not have tv?
June 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pmBTW. Bill Maher, in his own way, was actually asking President Obama to display a little of Chimpy’s will to force his agenda down the throat of all opposition.
It takes a mind like Becky’s to mistake that for calling him “Bush light”.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pmJorduSpeaks SAys:
Well, the right wing has been more supportive of the state of Israel, which was created as a result of the Holocaust, and is attacked by organizations that publicly claim to want to repeat it.
You seem to be conflating antisemitism and criticism of Israel. They are two very different things.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:25 pmWhile antisemitism is not the same as criticism of Israel, I think it’s safe to say that support of Israel is not compatible with antisemitism. Needless to say, James Von Brunn would most likely not be sympathetic to the right-wing Zionist agenda.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pmDang he’s a dumb SOB. It’s really kind of sad.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pmmarquitin Says:
Dang he’s a dumb SOB. It’s really kind of sad.
It would be sad if he was wandering the streets muttering his crap to himself. Since he is able to spew it to a national audience of extremists? It’s scary as Hell.
June 15th, 2009 at 5:50 pmBeck is right about one thing. It will be from the inside. And Beck is an example of that destructive, unthinking force that will do nothing but hurt this country. This man trusts no one who thinks, or that stimulates him to think. Like all of Fix network, he is a knee jerk idiot. He says the first thing that comes to mind. With no thought to veracity or cogent thought. He is a victim of his own lack of intellect and education.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pmDo you objectively examine your opinions and the claims of people who support them before you blindly cast aspersions? Or do you simply make knee jerk statements without consideration of veracity and cogency of argument?
June 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pmThe “melting pot” was a great idea when it only applied to Britain, Scotland, and Ireland. Then they had to go opening it to the French !
Seriously though, here in the USA we ARE in danger of the govt being accountable to a conservative, religious leader who ignores the other side.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:11 pmIt’s not “blind aspersions” to note that Becky is wrong, divisive, dangerous, and just plain insane. It’s a simple act of observation and conclusion.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:18 pmSo long as you can back up your argument with evidence, specific examples, or at the very least some indication that observations were actually made.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:25 pmBeck is more than crazy; he is a certifiably dangerous hatemonger.
Cats r Flyfishn Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 6:35 pmBeck is a bonafide crazy man.
pete Says:
BTW. Bill Maher, in his own way, was actually asking President Obama to display a little of Chimpy’s will to force his agenda down the throat of all opposition.
It takes a mind like Becky’s to mistake that for calling him “Bush light”.
Just a little bit, though. He wasn’t asking for Obama to go full “my way or the highway,” but it would be nice to see him actually defend in practice the same positions he spoke about so eloquently while campaigning for the job.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:40 pmIt seems to me that there are two main factions within the American far-right: those who support Israel no matter what and the anti-Semite, holocaust deniers like von Brunn, David Duke, and neo-Nazis.
JorduSpeaks Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pmWhile antisemitism is not the same as criticism of Israel, I think it’s safe to say that support of Israel is not compatible with antisemitism. Needless to say, James Von Brunn would most likely not be sympathetic to the right-wing Zionist agenda
The picture of Beck says it all– a hateful, bigoted, racist, violence inciter & incest-admirer — who thinks he’s cute.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pmWatch any random minute of Becky. If you don’t catch something stupid, divisive, or insane? You aren’t paying attention.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pmWhile I don’t seek the opinions of the latter group enough to know where their political allegiances lie, isn’t the notion that they would ally themselves with the former group somewhat counter-intuitive?
June 15th, 2009 at 6:53 pmTo Jordu
June 15th, 2009 at 7:01 pmPerhaps it is counter-intuitive, but David Duke ran for office as a Republican–not as a Democrat. Perhaps it is because anti-semites like Duke and vonBrunn still find enough within the Republican Party that they can support. Of course, the farthest of the rightwing supports neither of the major political parties.
Nothing counter intuitive about it. The GOP is closer to the ideals of the radical right than the DNC, or most of humanity. They grow harder to separate with each passing day.
In the case of the beast who murdered Stephen Johns, his hate for the GOP is because he thought they had moved left and abandoned his racist ideals.
Trying to call him a “leftist” is insane. Even if he rejected the GOP’s support for Israel, he certainly followed their lead to take matters into his own hands.
The far-right hate machine is fomenting rebellion and their audience is snapping, one by one, and making their statements with bullets instead of words. As much as I hate to say it, I don’t think it will be long before the bombings start.
In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the ultimate expression of terror, suicide bombings, here in the good ‘ol U.S.A. Only here it won’t be Muslims, or communists, or foreign powers. It will be the quiet “good Christian patriot”, who lives down the street.
June 15th, 2009 at 7:37 pmBeck is my hero. An unbiased right leaning libertarian who isnt afraid of the liberal media.
June 15th, 2009 at 8:00 pmWTF? This from a man who gets paid big bucks to keep the country divided?
June 15th, 2009 at 8:08 pmAnd why should Glenn or anyone fear the liberal media, Jimmy Little Brain? It isn’t known for printing the addresses and photos of people it doesn’t like and encourage shooters to go seek them, after all.
June 15th, 2009 at 8:08 pmJimmy Big Bucks Says:
Beck is my hero. An unbiased right leaning libertarian who isnt afraid of the liberal media.
As long as you don’t go pouring “gasoline” on people, knock yourself out.
June 15th, 2009 at 8:30 pmBeck’s brain seems scrambled……
Past drug use? Alcoholism?
June 15th, 2009 at 8:42 pmor just plain nuts?
JorduSpeaks Says:
I clicked the links, but didn’t see any “railing against minorities”. I saw him discussing border security, saw him make the claim that the democratic party sees Sotamayor as some sort of “Magic Latina…”
Rewind all that and look again.
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Jimmy Big Bucks Says:
…unbiased right leaning…
That says everything we need to know about you, right there.
June 15th, 2009 at 8:53 pmDo you see how utterly un-falsifiable this position is? If a person committing violence agrees with the GOP, it’s because GOP ideals encourage violence. If they disagree, it’s because the GOP “moved left”. One could easily adapt the argument to vilify the Democratic party, the Catholic Church, or the American Medical Association if one were so inclined.
June 15th, 2009 at 9:43 pmOne could have recently read his own words on the subject, talking about how “his party”, the GOP, had “abandoned him and the white race”. He also provided thoughts on Obama and other Democrats that are far too vile to repeat. Alas, it appears that his accomplices have erased much of his online presence and those who had unintentionally spread his vile crap have done so as well.
But hey, if one wants to paint the killer of Stephen Johns as a “leftist”? I won’t argue. I’ve found it’s impossible to argue with people who are batscat crazy.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:04 pmI might add that when a Becky fan uses the term “un-falsifiable”? It makes me laugh until I pee.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:07 pmI never claimed to be a fan of Glenn Beck, nor did I claim that von Brunn was a “leftist”. I was merely trying to question the assumptions that Beck is a racist, and that von Brunn is “right wing”.
And, yes, your argument does seem to be tautologous. I would be interested in seeing those writings you alluded to, though, should they resurface. That would, at the very least, provide compelling evidence that von Brunn viewed himself as right wing.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:18 pmI didn’t call Becky a racist. I said he’s insane. Personally, I need no proof beyond his calling Bible Spice “smart”.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:29 pmYou didn’t, but others did.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:30 pmDo you see how utterly un-falsifiable this position is? If a person committing violence agrees with the GOP, it’s because GOP ideals encourage violence. If they disagree, it’s because the GOP “moved left”.One could easily adapt the argument to vilify the Democratic party, the Catholic Church, or the American Medical Association if one were so inclined.
False assumption. There are elements in the party that have always viewed “mainstream” republicans as RINO’s, and contemptable. If now, they are motivated to violence because of Obama’s election, they are merely acting out impulses they always possessed, but previously kept suppressed. They have not moved from their political position of obstruction. It is simply another form of obstruction. Violent obstruction.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:51 pmI was merely trying to question the assumptions that Beck is a racist, and that von Brunn is “right wing”.
Von Brunn posted on Free Republic, a conservative website, and his posts were not removed. Anyone who knows Free Republic, knows that unconservative viewpoints are censured and removed. The mere fact that his posts exist on their site is confirmation enough, for all but those inclined to disregard, because of politically partisan leanings.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:56 pmSo then, is it your view that, for these individuals, the relationship between political affiliation and violent inclination is incidental rather than causal?
June 15th, 2009 at 11:01 pmDo you have a link, then?
June 15th, 2009 at 11:05 pmKnock yourself out. Personally, I’ve already read too much.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/11/AR2009061104031.html
June 15th, 2009 at 11:35 pmThank you, kindly. I’ll look over it.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:28 amI read the article. It was typical nonsense ranting and paranoid conspiracy theory with delusions of persecution. That said, it was critical of Obama (sort of, it didn’t actually criticize any policies of his, just made baseless accusations about his citizenship). I still don’t know what, if anything, his antisemitism has to do with the right wing, but I am convinced that he identified with the right on some level.
One quick clarification, von Brunn did not actually post on the site (as near as I can tell). Rather, he posted the rant on a Norwegian site (for some reason). It was then discovered by a user of Free Republic and re-posted.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:53 amen son videolar
June 16th, 2009 at 9:43 amen son videolar
JorduSpeaks
It is not that antisemitism is associated with neocons, it’s that antisemites are conservatives, politically.
It’s kind of like when people say that “Not all antisocials are serial killers, but all serial killers are antisocials.”
June 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pm