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	<title>Comments on: Clinton Urges Obama To Stand Firm On A Strong Public Option: Don&#8217;t &#8216;Give Up The Store&#8217; To Get 60 Votes</title>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/16/clinton-health-care-meeting/comment-page-2/#comment-5690070</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;krystalview Says:

Well Daddy-O, you&#039;re not alone. I was a rabid Obama supporter. Donated more money and volunteered more hours of work to his campaign than anyone else I know. But I AM beginning to wonder if it was a mistake!&lt;/em&gt;

The thing is, it&#039;s easy to play would-could-shoulda.  What if Hillary had won, &lt;strong&gt;but&lt;/strong&gt; was stalling and playing wishy-wash as much as Obama is now?  We&#039;d be saying the same thing, just the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>krystalview Says:</p>
<p>Well Daddy-O, you&#8217;re not alone. I was a rabid Obama supporter. Donated more money and volunteered more hours of work to his campaign than anyone else I know. But I AM beginning to wonder if it was a mistake!</em></p>
<p>The thing is, it&#8217;s easy to play would-could-shoulda.  What if Hillary had won, <strong>but</strong> was stalling and playing wishy-wash as much as Obama is now?  We&#8217;d be saying the same thing, just the other way around.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5690070', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rodeskawler</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/16/clinton-health-care-meeting/comment-page-2/#comment-5689822</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodeskawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your &quot;Democrats&quot; will predictably dissappoint you, because they are not Democrats.  There will be nothing good to come out of any healthcare &quot;reform&quot; until we have real lobbyist and campaign finance reform.

Lots of big talk, but the bribes will stop any significant action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your &#8220;Democrats&#8221; will predictably dissappoint you, because they are not Democrats.  There will be nothing good to come out of any healthcare &#8220;reform&#8221; until we have real lobbyist and campaign finance reform.</p>
<p>Lots of big talk, but the bribes will stop any significant action.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689822', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Clinton is very right about this. He was very wrong about the trade agreements that gave away our store. But he is right about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton is very right about this. He was very wrong about the trade agreements that gave away our store. But he is right about this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689787', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: krystalview</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/16/clinton-health-care-meeting/comment-page-2/#comment-5689780</link>
		<dc:creator>krystalview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Daddy-O Says: 
These days I find myself wishing Hillary were President instead of Obama. Obama does not lead.&lt;/em&gt;

Well Daddy-O, you&#039;re not alone. I was a rabid Obama supporter. Donated more money and volunteered more hours of work to his campaign than anyone else I know. But I AM beginning to wonder if it was a mistake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Daddy-O Says:<br />
These days I find myself wishing Hillary were President instead of Obama. Obama does not lead.</em></p>
<p>Well Daddy-O, you&#8217;re not alone. I was a rabid Obama supporter. Donated more money and volunteered more hours of work to his campaign than anyone else I know. But I AM beginning to wonder if it was a mistake!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689780', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/16/clinton-health-care-meeting/comment-page-2/#comment-5689632</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Alejandro Says:
I saw military in there.
That&#039;s awesomely hilarious.
Your saying the Pentagon is run efficiently? The thing that &quot;misplaced&quot; $2.3 trillion before 9/11. The thing that builds F-22s for 4 times what they should cost so that every congressional district gets a piece of the pie. I could go on and on, but wow, using the military as an example of an efficiently run government agency is just, wow.&lt;/em&gt;

The military was run efficiently up until the time that Bush privatized much of it.  Once Bush started giving out no-bid billion dollar contracts for KBR to do what the military had done forever before, that&#039;s when our money going to the military started going down a black hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Alejandro Says:<br />
I saw military in there.<br />
That&#8217;s awesomely hilarious.<br />
Your saying the Pentagon is run efficiently? The thing that &#8220;misplaced&#8221; $2.3 trillion before 9/11. The thing that builds F-22s for 4 times what they should cost so that every congressional district gets a piece of the pie. I could go on and on, but wow, using the military as an example of an efficiently run government agency is just, wow.</em></p>
<p>The military was run efficiently up until the time that Bush privatized much of it.  Once Bush started giving out no-bid billion dollar contracts for KBR to do what the military had done forever before, that&#8217;s when our money going to the military started going down a black hole.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689632', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Alejandro Says:
Yes, the police are very efficient at violating your rights and tazing you for questioning their godhood.&lt;/em&gt;

And do you think that a privatized police force would be less likely to do these kind of things?  Do you really want Blackwater mercenaries running our police departments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Alejandro Says:<br />
Yes, the police are very efficient at violating your rights and tazing you for questioning their godhood.</em></p>
<p>And do you think that a privatized police force would be less likely to do these kind of things?  Do you really want Blackwater mercenaries running our police departments?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689614', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/16/clinton-health-care-meeting/comment-page-2/#comment-5689610</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;skarecro Says:
It&#039;s very scary that people are WILLING to give the govt control of health care funds. Have you all not been spanked enough by these crooks?
Name 1 govt agency that is run efficiently?&lt;/em&gt;

We already have government health care.  It&#039;s called Medicare.  And Medicare operates with a 4% overhead whereas for-profit health insurance operates at at 40% overhead.

And don&#039;t come back and say that Medicare is in financial trouble.  The only reason why Medicare is getting into financial trouble is because the baby boomers are hitting the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>skarecro Says:<br />
It&#8217;s very scary that people are WILLING to give the govt control of health care funds. Have you all not been spanked enough by these crooks?<br />
Name 1 govt agency that is run efficiently?</em></p>
<p>We already have government health care.  It&#8217;s called Medicare.  And Medicare operates with a 4% overhead whereas for-profit health insurance operates at at 40% overhead.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t come back and say that Medicare is in financial trouble.  The only reason why Medicare is getting into financial trouble is because the baby boomers are hitting the system.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689610', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you President Clinton.  Now I just hope that President Obama listens to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you President Clinton.  Now I just hope that President Obama listens to you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689597', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vouchers are just a way to privatize public funds and like the MIC they would soon find a way to overcharge the govt thru a voucher system</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vouchers are just a way to privatize public funds and like the MIC they would soon find a way to overcharge the govt thru a voucher system<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689567', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Daddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>skarecro, I&#039;ll buy that property from you. One of us is wilfully blind, and it ain&#039;t me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>skarecro, I&#8217;ll buy that property from you. One of us is wilfully blind, and it ain&#8217;t me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689555', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Daddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;EugeneDebs&lt;/i&gt; sed:

&quot;This is an attempt to destroy public education...&quot;

Amen, bruh. My wife is a reading specialist in a public school. Her entire family works or worked in public education--teachers, administrator, vice principal, etc. They know what works, and vouchers ain&#039;t it, no matter how many happy stories about chartered schools, etc, make the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>EugeneDebs</i> sed:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is an attempt to destroy public education&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen, bruh. My wife is a reading specialist in a public school. Her entire family works or worked in public education&#8211;teachers, administrator, vice principal, etc. They know what works, and vouchers ain&#8217;t it, no matter how many happy stories about chartered schools, etc, make the media.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689552', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way our society is structured, with people making poverty [about 19k a year] wages [like min wage] 3200+ a year for private tuition isnt feasible.

Vouchers wouldnt lower taxes, or save the government money. It does give people an option, like a public option health insurance plan would</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way our society is structured, with people making poverty [about 19k a year] wages [like min wage] 3200+ a year for private tuition isnt feasible.</p>
<p>Vouchers wouldnt lower taxes, or save the government money. It does give people an option, like a public option health insurance plan would<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689551', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Daddy-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daddy-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days I find myself wishing Hillary were President instead of Obama. Obama does not lead. He does not rub his opponents the wrong way. He does not govern. He seeks compromise and middle ground with vicious extremists here in our own government. 

I doubt Hillary would have done that, and she would have learned from BILL&#039;S mistakes, too. 

I also find myself wishing Obama had made her HHS Secretary instead of Secretary of State. Sure, the State job has all the prestige and power, but the idea is to best serve the American people. It just doesn&#039;t pack the same punch to have Hillary commenting from State about universal health care. 

I know, I know...I&#039;m wishing for ponies. Don&#039;t jump my sh*t too hard, Obama luvers. Wishing; that&#039;s what comments are for SOMETIMES, ain&#039;t they?

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days I find myself wishing Hillary were President instead of Obama. Obama does not lead. He does not rub his opponents the wrong way. He does not govern. He seeks compromise and middle ground with vicious extremists here in our own government. </p>
<p>I doubt Hillary would have done that, and she would have learned from BILL&#8217;S mistakes, too. </p>
<p>I also find myself wishing Obama had made her HHS Secretary instead of Secretary of State. Sure, the State job has all the prestige and power, but the idea is to best serve the American people. It just doesn&#8217;t pack the same punch to have Hillary commenting from State about universal health care. </p>
<p>I know, I know&#8230;I&#8217;m wishing for ponies. Don&#8217;t jump my sh*t too hard, Obama luvers. Wishing; that&#8217;s what comments are for SOMETIMES, ain&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>;-)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689548', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The private tuition is, on average over $3200 year per child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The private tuition is, on average over $3200 year per child.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689545', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Buckie Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buckie Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t hear politicians with government health insurance complaining about it...

...no you don&#039;t, I have never heard one complaint from anyone who has government healthcare...

...ever....case closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t hear politicians with government health insurance complaining about it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;no you don&#8217;t, I have never heard one complaint from anyone who has government healthcare&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;ever&#8230;.case closed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689543', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the tuition issue to be skewed. In 2006 the amount of public funding, state, federal and local sources to be 521 billion. If that is divided by the population of America at about 300 million thats 1,736 dollars per person per year for public education [2006] for grades 1-12 [some states have public kindergarten]  Texas, for one state, doesnt have state tax that comes out of your paycheck but a percantage, 8cents, comes out of each dollar spent [except on food items such as milk, cheese, meat, bread etc etc]

And federal tax comes from many areas as well, such as gasoline[18 cents a gallon] etc etc.

So that 1,736 yearly doesnt come directly out of your pocket but from consuming goods, business etc. 

Lets say you are a typical family, two parents two or three kids. 

Thats less than 3500 a year for two kids to be educated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the tuition issue to be skewed. In 2006 the amount of public funding, state, federal and local sources to be 521 billion. If that is divided by the population of America at about 300 million thats 1,736 dollars per person per year for public education [2006] for grades 1-12 [some states have public kindergarten]  Texas, for one state, doesnt have state tax that comes out of your paycheck but a percantage, 8cents, comes out of each dollar spent [except on food items such as milk, cheese, meat, bread etc etc]</p>
<p>And federal tax comes from many areas as well, such as gasoline[18 cents a gallon] etc etc.</p>
<p>So that 1,736 yearly doesnt come directly out of your pocket but from consuming goods, business etc. </p>
<p>Lets say you are a typical family, two parents two or three kids. </p>
<p>Thats less than 3500 a year for two kids to be educated.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689542', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oldgranny 

EXACTLY and the kids who are dyslexic or have ADD. They have a right to a public education but private schools dont have to take them so they dont have to pay the special ed teachers. Then we test and the rightwing can say see, private education does it better and cheaper. This is an attempt to destroy public education</description>
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<p>EXACTLY and the kids who are dyslexic or have ADD. They have a right to a public education but private schools dont have to take them so they dont have to pay the special ed teachers. Then we test and the rightwing can say see, private education does it better and cheaper. This is an attempt to destroy public education<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689527', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: smidget</title>
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		<dc:creator>smidget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Luis
I wasn&#039;t insinuating that you actually thought that, nor would I hint that you are, indeed, more guillable than Limbaugh&#039;s audience (that was a bit of a zinger, though...my bad). 

I figure the spare money is in the same place that the &quot;missing&quot; money referenced earlier is.

A lot of the issues with the healthcare industry, aside from the obvious failures that we have all dealt with, stem from the fact that it is a for-profit industry. There&#039;s a reason that some things are left to the government, and it&#039;s not because it&#039;s the most efficient way to do it, it&#039;s because it&#039;s the most accessible way to do it.  People need an education, so we have public schools.  Private schools compete with them, and you&#039;re welcome to send your kids to one, but because the public ones exist, &lt;em&gt;everyone&lt;/em&gt; has access to an education.  Healthcare is no less important, and everyone should have access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Luis<br />
I wasn&#8217;t insinuating that you actually thought that, nor would I hint that you are, indeed, more guillable than Limbaugh&#8217;s audience (that was a bit of a zinger, though&#8230;my bad). </p>
<p>I figure the spare money is in the same place that the &#8220;missing&#8221; money referenced earlier is.</p>
<p>A lot of the issues with the healthcare industry, aside from the obvious failures that we have all dealt with, stem from the fact that it is a for-profit industry. There&#8217;s a reason that some things are left to the government, and it&#8217;s not because it&#8217;s the most efficient way to do it, it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s the most accessible way to do it.  People need an education, so we have public schools.  Private schools compete with them, and you&#8217;re welcome to send your kids to one, but because the public ones exist, <em>everyone</em> has access to an education.  Healthcare is no less important, and everyone should have access.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689514', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wiz</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/16/clinton-health-care-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-5689503</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been amazed that people vote and act against their self interest. It would be interesting to know how many people who have no health insurance are against Obama&#039;s health care reform. I think this is not a small number. It is the trick Republicans play, bringing up social issues that really don&#039;t effect the lives of the people who are whipped into a fever over issues in which they have no stake. How many anti-gay marriage people even know any gay people, I would suspect many do not, if they did they would see them as individuals worthy of equal rights. Another example is abortion, Republican&#039;s have been railing against abortion rights for how many years, and in all that time has a constitutional amendment ever been proposed by a Republican President? While many people have heart felt beliefs against abortion, those people have been manipulated into thinking Republican will do something about it, but never have. If abortion were settled, those people would move on to other issues and some would drift away from the GOP. It is all about distraction with the Republicans. This financial crisis is another example, too much spending they rage, but when Bush was spending not a peep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been amazed that people vote and act against their self interest. It would be interesting to know how many people who have no health insurance are against Obama&#8217;s health care reform. I think this is not a small number. It is the trick Republicans play, bringing up social issues that really don&#8217;t effect the lives of the people who are whipped into a fever over issues in which they have no stake. How many anti-gay marriage people even know any gay people, I would suspect many do not, if they did they would see them as individuals worthy of equal rights. Another example is abortion, Republican&#8217;s have been railing against abortion rights for how many years, and in all that time has a constitutional amendment ever been proposed by a Republican President? While many people have heart felt beliefs against abortion, those people have been manipulated into thinking Republican will do something about it, but never have. If abortion were settled, those people would move on to other issues and some would drift away from the GOP. It is all about distraction with the Republicans. This financial crisis is another example, too much spending they rage, but when Bush was spending not a peep.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689503', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/16/clinton-health-care-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-5689498</link>
		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was humored to the out of date text being used at an expensive private school near me by the uncertified biology instructor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was humored to the out of date text being used at an expensive private school near me by the uncertified biology instructor&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5689498', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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