Comments on: Lugar disagrees with McCain’s call for the U.S. to ‘act’ against Iran.

By: EugeneDebs

EugeneDebs — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:33:26 +0000

Bunk we didnt say squat about the rigged election of Shevernadze in Georgia nor the rigged elections in El Salvador and Guatemala. We have to tread carefully here. We are the guys who overthrew thier first democratic government. Every Iranian knows that. We just dont have the credibility there to throw down any guantlets. I am sure things will be said but it needs to be done with care and delicacy. It would be very easy to make things worse.

By: cjdew

cjdew — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:15:15 +0000

Why the hating on John M. – Warmonger? He is asking for the President of the United States to make a statement. Why do we pretend nothing is happening in Iran? If a sham election took place in any other country the US would be the first country to speak out. Hell the Dems still can’t shut up about 2000.
Isn’t Free and Fair Election the US Mantra?

By: Caribbean Joe

Caribbean Joe — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:49:13 +0000

Whatever the end result of the Iranian election, the Mullahs will have no other choice than to change some of their policies towards young people, women and gays.
Sen. Lugar, a voice of conservative reason in the US Senate, knows that only a few years ago Mexico was going through a period of voter revolution against the conservative establishment and even though the election there was clearly stolen, the US under Pres. Bush did not side with the people.
Sen. McCain does not remember when he said during the campaign: “we’re all Georgians now” just to win points with the anti-Russian electorate. Well, the EU has just blamed the president of Georgia for starting the war with Russia. So much for McCain’s foreign policy wisdom!

By: wiley

wiley — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:09:58 +0000

We would have a fight on our hands if Lugar were the leader of the Republican party. I’m guessing he doesn’t want to be the party’s babysitter.

McCain not being president makes me happy—that was a close call. His campaign was one of the most frightening things I have ever seen, in my life. Sarah’s crowds screaming “terrorists” was uberscary.

President Obama has become my favorite president. I haven’t really liked a president since Carter, and I thought him too good to be president. I think if we stick with him and keep Congress Democratic, we’ll do well. Congress needs to be whipped by the public.

By: Rodeskawler

Rodeskawler — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:08:09 +0000

Take action against Iran? Install another Shah you mean?

By: Chessmaster

Chessmaster — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:13:58 +0000

Lugar is one of the few remaining Republicans who still has a rational brain.

By: ElBruce

ElBruce — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:13:23 +0000

publicsteele Says:

Look, the guy just figured out email last year, and only because people were making fun of him. So he’s still about 20 years behind Twitter.

Evil Spaniard Says:

Bombing Iran would unite the people to fight the foreing invader.

… under their right-wing incumbent.

By: The Angry Republican

The Angry Republican — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:50:27 +0000

AND In another reality…

Action…

[Zoom in Oval Office]

[Pan to Sec. Defence Joe Scarborough]

Mr. MCCain the Iranians are revolting over their suspected tainted election I recommend we give Israel the go ahead.

[Close-up MCCain]

We should at, we should act, uh we should act at at attack ack
[hack cough] act.

[Pan Scaryborough]

You said that Mr. President, what do what to do…

[Pan MCCain]

we should bomb Iran with messages of our outrage!

[Pan Sarah Palin by steel case]

[Zoom close up Palin's hand pressing the button starting WWIII]

[Voice Over MCCain]

NO SARAH WAIT!! That’s not what I meant!
Don’t touch that!
No wait Sarah that’s not…

Oh hell it’s nap time anyway.

[MCCAIN naps on couch]

[pan back wide angle outside White House]

[cue Hysterical giggle Palin]

[Palin voice over]

Well we sure showed them, you betcha :)

By: Whenwillthisnightmareend

Whenwillthisnightmareend — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:08:19 +0000

All the bellicosity and bluster won’t change the fact that John McCain was a disappointment to his dear old Dad. The fact that he is a loudmouth war monger is the reason he lost the last election to a level headed, intellectually superior individual who has a habit of weighing and measuring his words, and I must say, successfully. Thank the gods that John McCain has been marginalized.

By: Evil Spaniard

Evil Spaniard — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:01:08 +0000

LUGAR: No. I think for the moment our position is to allow the Iranians to work out their situation. When popular revolutions occur, they come really from the people. They’re generated by people power within the country. For us to become heavily involved in the election at this point is to give the clergy an opportunity to have an enemy…and to use us, really, to retain their power.

Bingo!

Bombing Iran would unite the people to fight the foreing invader.

By: publicsteele

publicsteele — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:45:30 +0000

Twitter and social media, primarily developed and owned by the private sector in the U.S., has proven the strongest support in history for a citizen’s movement. McCain fails to see that we did “act,’ and continue to act in a way much more significant than whatever 20th Century, antagonistic solution he would be referring to. And it didn’t involve governmental entanglements. Our support goes way beyond content: Our free-market provides the means of communication and, yes, revolution.

By: Constant Weader

Constant Weader — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:25:41 +0000

Great comments! Lugar is an old-timey Republican conservative — the kind you can disagree with vehemently but who will always put the country’s interests before cheap politican shots. That makes him pretty much a lone wolf over there in Republicanville.

On the other hand, if there were more sane Republicans Lugar & fewer like McCain, there probably wouldn’t be a Democratic Congress. One thing Obama understands way better than I would like is that a lot of so-called “independents” are really pretty conservative & only voted for him because McCain & Palin were so knee-knocking scary.

The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

By: pags2

pags2 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:01:30 +0000

McCain is doing what all the Republicans do; they talk big about defense and security issues. This is their favorite issue for beating up on the Dems. However, this cowboy diplomacy is over because the public approves Obama’s handling of foreign relations. Too bad the Republicans have not got the message.

By: DaTruth

DaTruth — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:35:32 +0000

This country is too broke and way in debt to act against Iran or any other country in addition to the ongoing costly wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We’re in no shape when it comes to finances. Military forces are overstretched as well.

By: prozac-me

prozac-me — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:21:32 +0000

Good lord, it truly scares the hell out of me that John McCain almost became the POTUS. Is it only me or am I missing something? Whenever McCain takes a stand on an issue, it is absolutely the wrong position. If he were elected, I am sure we would be facing down the barrels a Russian task force. He is belligerent and is incapable of following a complete thought process as to what the ultimate outcome of his actions.

I am a veteran and I use the VA for medical care. If McCain’s stand behind veteran issues is any kind of marker as to what kind of character he processes, then America did the correct thing in rejecting him.

Now John McCain is speaking out on health care and I am assured that his position will be wrong as usual. Follow the money, follow the money, and keep following the money.That is how you will get a full measure of a mans character.

By: Jess Wonderin

Jess Wonderin — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:19:24 +0000

Obama put it right in his press conference this AM with the S Korean leader . . . “it is not in the best interest of America to be seen MEDDLING” . . .

And of course the GOP “leadership” Mike Pense wants CONGRESS to get involved . . . with a “resolution” . . . just what the Iranian hard-liners NEED, an AMERICAN attempt to “influence” their politics that will remind them of the Shah/CIA take over . . .

By: NutWrench

NutWrench — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:30 +0000

What exactly is McCain proposing that we do? Send over a stealth bomber to blow some shit up? Given the last eight years of foreign policy decisions we’ve seen from conservatives, he sure as hell isn’t proposing that we do anything intelligent or reasonable.

By: katy

katy — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:05:26 +0000

DRxJ Says:
Well Hell’s Bells!
Where were the Iranians and their government during our 2000 election fiasco???

well hell’s bells! where were the AMERICANS!?!?!???

i am actually jealous of the amazing show of iranian people power…

and very proud of them…

By: DRxJ

DRxJ — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:57:12 +0000

Well Hell’s Bells!
Where were the Iranians and their government during our 2000 election fiasco???
Why did they not get involved (diplomatically or militarily)?

Because it was none of the farking business!
Just like now it’s none of ours!!!

Geez, I hate it when war mongers can’t utilize their cognitive skills and imagine the scenario from the other side.

Thank goodness some GOPers like Lugar can.

By: gummble-bee-itch

gummble-bee-itch — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:56:55 +0000

Why didn’t McCain propose attacking Ukraine when they were having election issues?