Obama: ‘Given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations,’ U.S. shoudn’t ‘be seen as meddling’ in Iran’s elections.
Obama: ‘Given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations,’ U.S. shoudn’t ‘be seen as meddling’ in Iran’s elections.
Since yesterday’s mass demonstrations in Iran over the disputed presidential elections, conservatives like Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) have urged President Obama to “act” and make forceful statements against Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s purported reelection. During a press conference today, Obama reemphasized his “deep concerns” about the election — but pointed out that, “given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations,” he wanted to make sure he did not appear to be “meddling” in Iranian affairs:
OBAMA: It’s not productive, given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations, to be seen as meddling, the U.S. president meddling in Iranian elections. … I do believe that something has happened in Iran where there is, there is a questioning of the kinds of antagonistic postures towards the international community that have taken place in the past, and that there are people that want to see greater openness and greater debate and want to see greater democracy.
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Echoing similar points made by Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) this morning, President Bush’s former ambassador to Iran Nicholas Burns endorsed Obama’s approach, saying, “President Ahmadinejad would like nothing better than to see a very aggressive series of statements by the United States that would try to put the U.S. in the center of this.”
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Let’s keep this between the Iranian people and Ahmadinejad and not allow Khamenei or Ahmadinejad off the hook by letting them invoke the United States as the Great Satan interfering in the affairs of Iran.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:48 pmPresident Obama is 100% correct. Anyone familiar with Operation TP Ajax in Iran in 1953 knows this.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pmObama: ‘Given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations,’ U.S. shoudn’t ‘be seen as meddling’ in Iran’s elections.
Especially considering the tremendously dubious nature of our own 2000 and 2004 presidential election outcomes…….
June 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pmABSOLUTELY! Please don’t get America involved in Iran’s election. We need to get the heck out of the Middle East – PERIOD! Let them handle their own affairs and fight their own battles.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:54 pmAs usual the Repugs are going to “introduce” legislation supporting the “new Iranian revolution” . . . playing right into the hands of the Iranian Right . . .
Another show of support from the folks that gave them the Shah . . . nice.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:56 pmObama and Lugar are right on this one, we need to clean up our own backyard…
June 16th, 2009 at 1:58 pmwell, that is MUCH too intelligent of a foreign policy stance
you know that will piss off the right wingers and their pet trolls they send here with talking points
June 16th, 2009 at 1:58 pmLugar needs to change parties.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pmCan you imagine what a President McCain and Palin would do in this situation?
What a freaking disaster that would have been…I could hear it now…
McCain: “We need to bomb, bomb, bomb…bomb, bomb Iran”
Palin: “The Democrat terrorist sympathizers caused this to happen, don’t ya know.”
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
June 16th, 2009 at 2:04 pmDirty Hippie Says:
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Lugar needs to change parties.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
It would simply be better for the entire country if the GOP disbanded completely ………
June 16th, 2009 at 2:04 pmExcellent! And exactly right as far as I’m concerned. In the election that ousted Katami and elevated Ahmadinejad to the presidency, the reformists in Iran begged and pleaded with us to not say anything in support of Katami because it would undermine support for him. Thanks to the meddleing of the Bush Administration, thats what happened.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:08 pmLets stay out of it this time. The Iranians will figure this out for themselve.
Got Mossadeq? CIA coup? Dead innocent legally elected national leaders?
Check, check, check.
If not…don’t even try to debate this one.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pmThe GNOP is going nuts over this! They want our president to cry foul because Iran’s more liberal candidate wasn’t proclaimed the winner, and the fundie extremist appears to have stolen the election in order to continue his radical policies.
Hmm. Sounds eerily familiar, only the GNOP remained quiet when it happened here.
President is saying and doing exactly what’s right here.
PEACE
June 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pmWhy do you Progressives support the Ayatollahs. Obama has thrown the Iranian people under the bus. I will never figure out why the left loves the Iranian regime so much.
It is hypocritical that you want to stay out of Iran’s affairs but have no problem getting involved in Israel’s. Watch the anti-Israeli responses come after I post this since you Progressives are so predictable. I’ll laugh if the Iranian people get rid of their rid, despite Obama’s support for the Ayatollahs.
I will sit back and laugh at your robo responses.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pmSam, I really am sorry that you do not have the facts on this issue. When you do, please come back and attempt an intellectual debate.
Right wing talking points do not count.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pmI agree! Their election is their business. McSame and his neo-con cronies are constantly itching for war. It is their fix. They just can’t wait for a pin to drop and start beating the drums of war, it’s their nature (warmonger nature):)
June 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pmRid of their regime, I meant to say. The attacks will begin in 10,9,8 …..
June 16th, 2009 at 2:31 pmwhen your campaign contributions come mostly from war profiteers, war is an attractive notion
June 16th, 2009 at 2:33 pmSam Says:
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Why do you Progressives support the Ayatollahs. Obama has thrown the Iranian people under the bus. I will never figure out why the left loves the Iranian regime so much.
It is hypocritical that you want to stay out of Iran’s affairs but have no problem getting involved in Israel’s. Watch the anti-Israeli responses come after I post this since you Progressives are so predictable. I’ll laugh if the Iranian people get rid of their rid, despite Obama’s support for the Ayatollahs.
I will sit back and laugh at your robo responses.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I’ll laugh harder at your stupid , moronic @ss even harder if the Iranian people over-throw their regime ; that would prove conclusively that Bush’s Idiotic Iraq Adventure was completely unnecessary , the worst and most imbecilic foreign policy maneuver in US history………..
June 16th, 2009 at 2:34 pmSam Says:
I will never figure out why the left loves the Iranian regime so much.
We don’t. Actually it’s the right wing that loves them. You’re the one trying to get us to strengthen them by proclaiming vocal support for Mousavi. Why do you want to strengthen them?
Republicans seem to believe that it’s far more important to loudly proclaim what you believe even if doing so would undermine bringing it about. Democrats believe in getting actually getting results, rather than mere appearances.
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Sam Says:
It is hypocritical that you want to stay out of Iran’s affairs but have no problem getting involved in Israel’s.
Palestine isn’t just “Israel’s affair.”
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Sam Says:
I will sit back and laugh at your robo responses.
Laugh away, crazy stupid shallow person.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pmWell I am glad he said this, but the real issue should be:
Given the history recent US elections, the US shouldn’t be seen as meddling.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pmI honestly think that right now? Meddling in Iran could have severe consequences in the future. If this ends up being a revolution on a scale of the 1979 one, and it means a change of regime, the best thing to do is to let the people overthrow the Ayatollahs – as opposed to us getting involved and tarnishing the end result. Because the Ayatollah’s strength has always been that we are the Antichrist, that we are always trying to overthrow the Islamic Republic.
Well, let the Ayatollahs find out that all their anti-American rhetoric was for nothing, and that it was the people, not the United States, who forced the end of their reactionary government.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pmWhy does the right whine an complain about every penny spent on domestic issues but can’t wait to find a reason to throw money away to solve the problems of other countries?
June 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pmAnd if we said we wanted to start an investigation into election fraud in 2000 and 2004 the right would be whining about wasting money.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pmBy what right does the USA have to determine another country’s election? It’s THEIR country, not ours. Let THEM sort it out.
I don’t remember Iran ‘acting’ in OUR elections, especially in 2000 and 2004.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pmSam you SHOULD be laughing at the stupidity of YOUR post. Why are conservatives so stupid? Why do morons like YOU lie so much. Why are you such ignorant pieces of filth? Why dont you just STFU since it is clear you are far too stupid to actually contribute?
June 16th, 2009 at 2:50 pmSam Says:
Rid of their regime, I meant to say. The attacks will begin in 10,9,8 …..
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My GOD you are stupid. Why shouldnt we attack a moron who comes in and tells us we support the Ayatollas call us predictable and hypocritical and is so stupid he thinks telling a country we give BILLIONS of dollars every year that they ought to start complying with the fourth Geneva convention is somehow like overthrowing their democracy and installing a brutal dictator. You are staggeringly stupid Sam. You embarass yourself with your abject stupidity.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:52 pmThe Republicans are all about American Exceptionalism. They believe in American principles EXCEPT when it means they get to start a war.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pmSam Says:
Why do you Progressives support the Ayatollahs. Obama has thrown the Iranian people under the bus. I will never figure out why the left loves the Iranian regime so much.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
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We don’t, puppykiller. That’s just a fantasy in your mind. You come in here with a preconcieved notion that we supprt the Iranian regime, and nothing we do or say can change that.
The real question – one you dodged yesterday, I might add – is why YOU support running over a box of puppies with a steamroller. We’re waiting for your answer.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pmHi Sam:
June 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pmYou’re that same attention seeker with ohso many screen names.. I can’t decide if I wanna just ignore you or whether I wanna make you look foolish. What do you think I should do?
“Obama’s support for the Ayatollahs”
June 16th, 2009 at 3:30 pm—
That is my favorite part as if saying it makes it so…
I apologize to all here. You are correct and I am wrong. I will never voice my opinion again.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pmwith chimpy’s stink on his “elections” the US is doing what is correct. What are we suppose to do? force another purple-finger-election under US rule?
President Obama is very wise and intelligent. Something repugs know nothing about.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pmMy Dear Sam… Sam Sam Sam…go to the bathroom, look in the mirror and repeat this 100 times….24 is not reality and I will not base my arguments on television programs…unless it is Keith Olbermann or Rachael Maddow…
:) :P
June 16th, 2009 at 3:42 pmThe election in Iran is still working itself out. Obama is doing the right thing by not putting his foot in it, given the past history the USA has had in interfering in Iranian politics.( we do have a history, starting in the 1950’s) The heartening thing about the elections is there is a very strong movement to bring Iran into a more democratic role and the rejection of the vote under 50 to the Theocracy.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:45 pmAh yes. The false dichotomy of the Reichwing mind.
We have no right to meddle in Iran’s affairs due to our own actions and theirs. We don’t even have normal relations with them. And, frankly, after Chimpy met their efforts to reach out after 9/11 with condemnation as “evil”? I can’t blame them. Chimpy shat all over a golden opportunity to find common ground.
Israel, on the other hand, is so inextricably bound to us that we may as well make them the 51st state. Personally, I have no problem with questioning what they do with the weapons we supply.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pmI will never voice my opinion again.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:56 pm— Sure you will. You’ll just use one of those other screen names. See the thing is Sam that multiple opinions are great and more than welcome but when you come in with such broad brush lines like “Why do you Progressives support the Ayatollahs”, it is clear that you are insincere and just want to draw negative feedback. Obviously that is a false statement and you know that. You wished to throw some flames and then play victim when you drew the very negative response you sought in the first place. I am forced to call BS upon you. Better luck next time…
It’s not productive, given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations, to be seen as meddling, the U.S. president meddling in Iranian elections.
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Two words…OPERATION AJAX.
(Or, if you prefer, Mohammed Mossadegh, since both sets of words basically refer to the same thing).
Boy, did that one ever come back to bite us in the backside big time! Let’s face it…that one incident is largely if not solely responsible for the current state of US-Iranian relations fifty years later, since it was our support for the Shah and our machinations on his behalf which led to the return of the Ayatollahs as well as the hostage crisis.
Ironic, isn’t it, that hardly anyone in the media ever talks about this rather dark little chapter in our supposedly glorious history as a champion of freedom and democracy — considering that we not only failed to defend it on that occasion, but subverted it outright?
June 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pmSam Says:
Yes you are wrong. You are also a punkass troll. You mean you wont come and regurgitate the opinion RUSH gave you? Good.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pmSam Says:
I apologize to all here. You are correct and I am wrong. I will never voice my opinion again.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
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Sweet. :)
June 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pmBomber Bolton wants to launch the missiles now. Maybe let Israel do it. In his twisted mind, somehow, the people would rally with their attackers, not their government.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pmWhen Bush Began the run up to the Second Iraq War…Hundreds of thousands of Americans Marched in the streets to protest this Folly.
This showed the World that Huge numbers of Americans were against Bush and his Plans.
Now hundreds of thousands of Iranians are in the streets, to show their Opposition to the Mullahs and their 15th Century Ideas.
This should make it easier for Americans to sympathize with the Iranian People….and hopefully…make it Harder for America to attack Iran.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:20 pmPresident Obama says that the Iranian people should be able to pick their own leaders without outside interference. Fine and dandy. It’s too bad that President Obama does not think that the Afghani people and the Iraqi people should be able to choose their own leaders without outside interference, such as US imperial hostile military occupations.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:33 pmCal Malenky Says:
Bomber Bolton wants to launch the missiles now. Maybe let Israel do it. In his twisted mind, somehow, the people would rally with their attackers, not their government.
I haven’t forgotten the mass bombing chimpy gave israel as a going-away present.
June 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm“Obama: ‘Given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations,’ U.S. shoudn’t ‘be seen as meddling’ in Iran’s elections.”
Given the history of the U.S. as ‘democracy promoter’, the U.S. does not have anywhere to moraly stand!
June 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pmWe need to stay out of this. Obama is very right. We cannot seem to be interfering in their politics. We did that in the 50’s when we put in the Shah and his secret police. That is why we have a problem now. Whatever happens there has to be settled by them. In an aside note, Ahmadinejad’s rival was a part of the Iran Contra scandal under Reagan. He helped with the deal of illegal arms for release of the hostages. It took awhile because we sent them arms they did not want, and they were slow in releasing the hostages for Reagan. If Reagan had not made that illegal deal when Carter left office, the hostages would still be there.
We should stay away from what happens there. People like McCain who always wants to bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran, are full of advice on killing. It is what the conservatives do. They should be patient. Most likely we will always be involved in conflict. Enough perhaps even to satisfy a neocon. Or maybe not.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:03 pmThose protesting the election, would likely side with their current leaders if the U.S. were to butt in. They want to change their government, they don’t want to stop being a sovereign nation. Mousai(sp?) is a moderate conservative that is very pro-Islam and nationalist. The Iranian youth aren’t pushing for Westernization. It’s their fight. Leave them to it.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:46 pmSam Says:
I will never voice my opinion again.
Thank GOD!
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Cal Malenky Says:
Bomber Bolton wants to launch the missiles now.
This statement is true at any time, and has always been true, whatever country you may be talking about, at whatever time period you are saying it.
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Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Says:
s too bad that President Obama does not think that the Afghani people and the Iraqi people should be able to choose their own leaders without outside interference, such as US imperial hostile military occupations.
They have elected their own leaders, and those leaders are (at least in Iraq) trying to maneuver us to the door, while strongly hinting that the pary’s over and it’s time to go home.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:21 pmI’m not sure that the majority of Iranians are behind the protests, either. It’s possible that Ahmadinejad actually won the popular vote—maybe not by the landslide presented, but he may have actually won. When we talk about the nation of Iran, the protesters don’t represent the whole nation. To be behind the people of Iran, as a whole, would include being behind people who voted for Ahmadinejad.
Fortunately, it’s not our problem. We have enough problems.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:17 pmcurious Says: “Ahmadinejad’s rival was a part of the Iran Contra scandal under Reagan. He helped with the deal of illegal arms for release of the hostages. It took awhile because we sent them arms they did not want, and they were slow in releasing the hostages for Reagan. If Reagan had not made that illegal deal when Carter left office, the hostages would still be there”.
Sorry curious but you’ve got your history a little bit wrong.
The person responsible for holding back the release of the hostages was none other than George H.W. Bush acting on behalf of Reagan so that Pres. Carter would not get credit for their release just before the election. Pres. Carter did not allow the Shah of Iran to enter the US after the Shah was overthrown and would not have traded the hostages for weapons to aid the Contras thereby enriching the same intermediaries who cut the hostages deal.
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Those protesting the election, would likely side with their current leaders if the U.S. were to butt in. They want to change their government, they don’t want to stop being a sovereign nation. Mousai(sp?) is a moderate conservative that is very pro-Islam and nationalist. The Iranian youth aren’t pushing for Westernization. It’s their fight. Leave them to it.
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Sam Says:
I will never voice my opinion again.
Thank GOD!
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Cal Malenky Says:
Bomber Bolton wants to launch the missiles now.
This statement is true at any time, and has always been true, whatever country you may be talking about, at whatever time period you are saying it.
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Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Says:
s too bad that President Obama does not think that the Afghani people and the Iraqi people should be able to choose their own leaders without outside interference, such as US imperial hostile military occupations.
They have elected their own leaders, and those leaders are (at least in Iraq) trying to maneuver us to the door, while strongly hinting that the pary’s over and it’s time to go home.
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I’m not sure that the majority of Iranians are behind the protests, either. It’s possible that Ahmadinejad actually won the popular vote—maybe not by the landslide presented, but he may have actually won. When we talk about the nation of Iran, the protesters don’t represent the whole nation. To be behind the people of Iran, as a whole, would include being behind people who voted for Ahmadinejad.
Fortunately, it’s not our problem. We have enough problems.
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