Krauthammer concedes Fox News is the ‘voice of opposition’ to Obama ‘in the media.’
Krauthammer concedes Fox News is the ‘voice of opposition’ to Obama ‘in the media.’
In an interview with CNBC this week, President Obama noted the constant criticism he receives from Fox News, saying, “I’ve got one television station that is entirely devoted to attacking my administration.” Some Fox regulars, like Bill O’Reilly, adamantly objected to Obama’s claim. But on Special Report yesterday, Fox contributor Charles Krauthammer admitted that Fox News can “accurately” be described as the “voice of opposition” to Obama:
KRAUTHAMMER: But what’s really interesting, the president yesterday has said, he complained about FOX, and he said, I think accurately, that it is the one, only voice of opposition in the media.
And it makes us a lot like Caracas where all the media, except one, are state run, with the exception that in Hugo Chavez-land, you go after that one station with machetes. I haven’t seen any machetes around here, so I think we are at least safe for now.
Watch it:
Krauthammer isn’t the only person at Fox who views the network as working in opposition to Obama. In March, Bill Shine, Fox News’ Senior Vice President for Programming, told NPR that the network views itself as “the voice of opposition on some issues” with Democrats in power in Washington, DC.
Transcript:
KRAUTHAMMER: Well, look, the media are so in the tank, really, they ought to get scuba gear about this president.But what’s really interesting, the president yesterday has said, he complained about FOX, and he said, I think accurately, that it is the one, only voice of opposition in the media.
And it makes us a lot like Caracas where all the media, except one, are state run, with the exception that in Hugo Chavez-land, you go after that one station with machetes. I haven’t seen any machetes around here, so I think we are at least safe for now.
But the rest of the media are entirely in the tank, and it’s embarrassing. You would think it would be embarrassment that would deter them.
Obama does u-turns on all kinds of policies — on taking money in campaigns, on rendition, on eavesdropping, on all kinds of issues, and the press does a u-turn, a whiplash u-turn in step.
In the end, what you have to could conclude is that it is, in part, ideological infinity with Obama, but also in part, he’s a rock star, and he sells. So it isn’t only ideology. It is greed. If you have him on the cover, he sells.
And that is the only defense that the mainstream media have, and it isn’t a pretty one — money.
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Duh! I wonder if he figured that out by himself.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:33 amthey seem to have opposition mixed up with “whiny classroom full of crybabies.”
June 18th, 2009 at 10:34 amIf they want to be treated as the press, they should grow up and act like adults. FAUX is phony and this same a zzhat said they create an alternative reality for the wingnuts.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:35 amNice conflation of a bunch of networks owned by large, publicly traded conglomerates with “state run” media Chucky. That would have been your network before the Republicans lost power. Thanks for admitting that Fox isn’t a “fair and balanced” news network however.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:36 amWe all know Fixed News is full of crap but check this out:
http://www.openleft.com/diary/13814/avenging-amanda-terkel-turning-the-tables-on-fox
June 18th, 2009 at 10:37 amI fail to see how the obvious is news.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:38 amranus69 Says:
We all know Fixed News is full of crap but check this out:
http://www.openleft.com/diary/13814/avenging-amanda-terkel-turning-the-tables-on-fox
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good show!
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June 18th, 2009 at 10:39 amMachetes, huh? Thanks for the idea, Cabbage-hammer. We’ll give it due consideration.
Yeesh.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:41 amwhere was this “voice of opposition” for the past eight years?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:43 amShorter Krauthammer: FOX is not fair or balanced
June 18th, 2009 at 10:43 amIf you haven’t done so. Watch “Outfoxed” a video about Fox Noise. You will understand why they feel left out since the Bush Crime Family is not in power any longer.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:44 amAnother day and another parsing of words by tp.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:44 amAnd it makes us a lot like Caracas where all the media, except one, are state run, with the exception that in Hugo Chavez-land, you go after that one station with machetes.
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Oh, it does not either. Would you care to explain which of our major media are “state run”? Just because we have broadcast and print media who aren’t dedicated to bashing the President 24/7 doesn’t mean they are beholden to him or his administration.
Furthermore, Fox News isn’t the only outlet who has criticized President Obama or done negative reporting about him. So get over the “lone voice in the wilderness” crap.
I’m getting a bit sick and tired of Republicans who compare themselves to people in the world who are genuinely oppressed. Conservatives are not Holocaust victims, Guantanamo torture victims, disenfranchised Iranians, or silenced Venezuelans.
Oh, and one more thing — if the role of Fox News is to be “the voice of opposition”, why did they adopt this role only after Obama was elected? It seems their role before that was “the voice of cheerleading and endless sucking up”. Let’s call Fox News what it is — “the voice of the rabid right”.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:44 amkasinca Says:
That comedy skit has been debunked beginning to end, newsliar!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:45 amAnd it makes us a lot like Caracas where all the media, except one, are state run, with the exception that in Hugo Chavez-land, you go after that one station with machetes. – Krauthammer
If the implication here is that Venezuelans have a one sided, pro-government media, this is false. This is unsurprising coming from a professional propagandist like Krauthammer.
From Mark Weisbrot, “Eyes Wide Shut: The International Media Look at Venezuela”:
“But then there is the Venezuelan reality, which is what Chavez and his government really care about. While most Americans and Europeans can be swayed by their one-sided media, Venezuelans get to hear both sides of this story. Venezuelans can turn on their TV and see extremely harsh criticism of their government every day. They can turn on their radio and find the airwaves actually dominated by anti-government “news” broadcasting. They can walk to a newsstand and find that most of the biggest newspapers are also dominated by anti-government reporting.”
June 18th, 2009 at 10:46 amremember TPers, Operation Freeze n Flag is in effect for AP, the whiny, lying, right wing coward
June 18th, 2009 at 10:47 amHow big of Krauthammer to admit what has been obvious to anyone with a sliver of sense – which clearly excludes The Ironically Named American Patriot, who tried to join Al Quaeda but flunked the psychological…
June 18th, 2009 at 10:47 amWell, Charles, since you guys were pretty deep in Bush’s aquarium, do you mind if we borrow your snorkel?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:48 am**playing a tiny violin for the “opposition”**
June 18th, 2009 at 10:49 am_to_the_pOTATO BUG Says:
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they seem to have opposition mixed up with “whiny classroom full of crybabies.”
OBAMA: Well, that’s a pretty big megaphone. And you’d be hard pressed if you watched the entire day to find a positive story about me on that front.
Who’s whining?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:49 amSorry Ranting Tommy, that last post was up before I read yours
June 18th, 2009 at 10:49 amAmerican Patriot Says:
kasinca Says:
That comedy skit has been debunked beginning to end, newsliar!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:45 am
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do we have your word
on that?
:)
June 18th, 2009 at 10:49 amThanks for the link ranus69, It was awesome.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:49 amKRAUTHAMMER: But what’s really interesting, the president yesterday has said, he complained about FOX, and he said, I think accurately, that it is the one, only voice of opposition in the media.
– - Krauthammer is inaccurate in saying Obama said FOX is the only voice of opposition in the media.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:50 amsounds to me like you are patriot. =D you have an awful lot of time don’t you?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:51 amoh and youre quote is a little closer to the stoic truth than it is a whine.
Thanks for making my case.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:53 amFox is only the most blatant right wing corporate media voice. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc still toe the republican party line and the rubes are convinced by their radio that the media, which is controlled by a few right wing corporations, is somehow “liberally biased”.
Only a gullible rube would believe the mainstream corporate media is liberal.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:53 amAmerican Patriot Says:
Another day and another parsing of words by tp.
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you have no choice but to stay.
we have control over you.
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so easy to manipulate conservatives.
their minds are weak
and nicely parsed.
:)
:)
June 18th, 2009 at 10:53 amAmerican Patriot Says:
_to_the_pOTATO BUG Says:
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they seem to have opposition mixed up with “whiny classroom full of crybabies.”
OBAMA: Well, that’s a pretty big megaphone. And you’d be hard pressed if you watched the entire day to find a positive story about me on that front.
Who’s whining?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:53 am==========
The von Brunn virus has returned.
FOX has BDS
June 18th, 2009 at 10:54 amno biggie, talking ABOUT trolls is fine, just don’t engage them.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:55 amAmerican Patriot Says:
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kasinca Says:
That comedy skit has been debunked beginning to end, newsliar!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:56 am===========================================================
Denied but not debunked, Sparky. The wingnuts always deny but they cannot debunk.
Republicans sure know how to play the persecuted card, don’t they?
I have to somewhat admire their ability to market their soylent green by turning propaganda into palatable material for their viewers.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:57 amOnly a gullible rube would believe the mainstream corporate media is liberal.
The irony needle is pegged, again.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:58 amcan you imagine being so gullible that you believe FOX is fair and balanced and the rest of the media is liberal biased?
you’d have to be almost as stupid as the trolls that post here to believe that
June 18th, 2009 at 10:59 amThe issue is not that FOX News is critical of Obama. The issue is that they are critical simply to be critical. Their boss (Ailes) as publicly acknowledged that their main mission shall be to criticize Obama’s policies, no matter what they are, and hence they have lost all objectivity.
They have reduced themselves to be a propaganda tool for the conservative base. That is certainly their right, but they lose the right to claim “fair and balanced” and to behave self-righteous and indignant when called out on it.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:59 amCharles Krauthammer recently admitted that FAUX is a phony network that was created to deliver the wingnuts an alternative reality. (Since reality has never been kind to wingnuts).
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06102009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/how_fox_news_opened_america_173419.htm
June 18th, 2009 at 11:00 amAmerican Patriot Says:
Another day and another parsing of words by tp.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Parse:
So what are you trying to say here? Because I just don’t get it.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:00 amI want a troll for the house. Something little and stupid that I can bash aginst the wall when I have a bad day at work. If I forget to feed it and it dies, so what? Who would care?
The Cheeto salesman maybe, other than that…..
June 18th, 2009 at 11:00 amAmerican Patriot Says:
Only a gullible rube would believe the mainstream corporate media is liberal.
The irony needle is pegged, again.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:58 am Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
watchdog Says:
He’s simply stating how much other news organization are drunk with Obama mania and unfairly report only one side.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:58 am
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good doggies.
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June 18th, 2009 at 11:01 amJeffy Bovine,
Do me a favor and skip to the all important viewership numbers.
Be a nice Bovine.
Then we can talk about Fox Business Channel sinking.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:01 am…
“deny but not debunk.”
so true.
i like that.
:)
June 18th, 2009 at 11:02 amjoe, the trolls have no self-discipline
they can’t stay away
they claim to hate TP but if they really did, they would boycott it
they don’t have the courage to boycott TP
June 18th, 2009 at 11:03 amjohnny dol1ar Says:
Jeffy Bovine,
Do me a favor and skip to the all important viewership numbers.
Be a nice Bovine.
Then we can talk about Fox Business Channel sinking.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:01 am
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the flagship.
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June 18th, 2009 at 11:03 amPresident didnt say that FOX was the only opposition. He said that he has one television station that is devoted to attacking his administration.
Nice Spin Krauthummer
June 18th, 2009 at 11:04 amKrauthammer: yes, we are the opposition and yes, we are crazy and proud of it.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:04 amBadmoodman Says:
KRAUTHAMMER: But what’s really interesting, the president yesterday has said, he complained about FOX, and he said, I think accurately, that it is the one, only voice of opposition in the media.
- – Krauthammer is inaccurate in saying Obama said FOX is the only voice of opposition in the media.
Exactly Badmoonman. It’s like he’s saying “Well someone has to be the opposition in the media because, you know, the media is such a left leaning institution as a whole.” God damn myth perpetuation done in the usual Fox unfair and no balance methods.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:05 amBut…but…but Fox…is so mean and treat me so badly says Body Odor (B.O.)…and actually expect me to answer questions about the facts of my proposed socialist policies. How downright hateful of them!
B.O. looked like a lil bytch crying about the only News Agency with enough guts to stand up to him and ask non-softball questions. Each of the major news outlets have been bought off by B.O….with high profile appointments in many areas of his administration…and fall all over themselves trying to give him slobbery knobbers…first!
“But…but…but Fox…is SSSSSSOOOOO mean to me!”
hahahahahahahahahahah
June 18th, 2009 at 11:05 amFixed news is way more than the “opposition”. It is the RNC propaganda network. I have no problem with them opposing President Obama’s policies, especially if they have something to offer in return. I have lots of problems with their lies, obfuscations and cherry picking quotes to try to make a case that Obama is intentionally trying to hurt this country.
Considering the fact that they are the cheerleaders for the party that brought this country to it’s knees, I think they did quite well with their propaganda.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:05 amFOX isnt mean, just ignorant. Bunch of grown men and women feigning outrage at every little thing.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:06 amFox is kicking all the other news outlets combined!!!!
it is just a matter of time before B.O.s polls go more south then Argentina.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:08 amAmerican Patriot your comedy skit has been debunked beginning to end, newsliar!
When will you answer the question?
Did you feel like a pawn when you served?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:08 amhaven’t read comments.
TP – you missed his point!
the point is:
And it makes us a lot like Caracas where all the media, except one, are state run,
they turned it around, as they do, our argument, for years, that fox is state tun propaganda…
ha. whodduthunkit…
and how do they keep getting away with it… ……..?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:08 amAlternaterealityunchecked
June 18th, 2009 at 11:10 amFOX is just the most extreme of the right wing corporate mainstream media.
All of them are run by corporations that depends on deregulation and corporate welfare and corporate tax evasion that republicans support.
Only ignorant rubes believe the mainstream media has a liberal bias.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:10 amthe funniest thing is when right wingers pretend FOX is the most popular news source on tv, ignoring the fact that they get TROUNCED by the ratings of network news (which of course, right wing rubes think has a liberal bias)
June 18th, 2009 at 11:11 amTrue, when Bush/Cheney were in office FOX was the Hugo Channel!!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:11 amand in the run up to the Iraq invasion, the alternative to the Bush propaganda was………..???????
This freak didn’t seem to have a problem then with there being no alternative to the Bush/ Cheney Administration lies about WMD’s etc, etc, etc, etc, ad nasuem.
This is the same idiot who made the claim about the only people in the U.S. who did not realize the neocons were right were “Upper West Side liberals”
Spend much time in the Manhattan/Beltway bubbles, Charlie?
Charlie Kraut is a complete weirdo freak whose WAAAY out of touch with reality and the mainstream of society.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:12 amHe should stay in his room and play with his toy soldiers.
The President die not complain about FAUX. He responded to a comment by Harwood that all the media was easy on him. He said he had a hard time swallowing that and then Harwood even admitted that CNBC had not always been easy. Now Krauthammer even admitted that the president was right about FAUX. All this accusing the president of whining is more lying and dishonesty of wingnuts who cannot handle reality.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:13 am297 million people didnt hear a word Krauthummer said.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:13 amRealityCheck Says:
Fox is kicking all the other news outlets combined!!!!
I’ll say! It’s great for my softcore porn fixes!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:13 amWait. That should be American people. In the wide world nearly 8 billion didnt hear a word FLOCKS NOOSE waaaaaahhhed.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:14 amRupert Murdoch reminds me of an evil villain in a James Bond movie. It would be nice to have a real James Bond to liberate us from this Rupert Murdoch/Newscorp evil empire.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:15 amFLOCKS NOOSE
We Yoke You Bleat
June 18th, 2009 at 11:16 amhahahahahahahahahahah
Indeed
June 18th, 2009 at 11:17 amI feel sorry for the lunchtime crowd at McDonald’s today with their workers American Patriot and watchdog taking off so they can post here and play their Slurpee game on each other.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:17 amAny right winger who thinks that the other media outlets are “drunk on Obama” is living in an alternative universe. Other than a few people on MSNBC, the remainder of the talking head programs on network and cable spend most of their time bashing President Obama. They have on twice as many conservatives as liberals and they shout down any liberal trying to make a point.
Also, if it is OK for Fixed News to be the opposition station, then why is it not OK for MSNBC to be more supportive of President Obama? The people on Fixed whine all the time about how far left MSNBC is (even though that’s a crock).
June 18th, 2009 at 11:17 amRealityCheck Says:
Fox is kicking all the other news outlets combined!!!!
Would you like to provide some proof of that. Because the only place Fixed can claim they rein supreme is on cable. Network news pulls way more viewers than Fixed. And, if you combine the viewers for CNN and MSNBC (they split the non-brain dead audience) they come very close to and frequently would out number the Fixed viewers.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:19 amOnly gullible rubes believe the propaganda from FOX
June 18th, 2009 at 11:19 amThe Jonathan Pryce character in “Tomorrow Never Dies” was a fictionalized version of Murdoch. And, yes, he was a villain.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:20 amI get all my news from Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. His coverage of the news is so complete and in depth that we are a few months behind and still studying the Bush, Cheney era. I would not know what this KHammer guy is talking about because old news is still news to me. Maybe when we catch up with the future this story will some how make sence and we will come to know him better. I am just wondering how on this earth at this time one would could possibly have conflicting views of any kind with our great leader and possible savior of all man kind…..(with possible exception of white house insects)!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:20 amSo, Krauthammer works for, who? I thought he was paid royally by the Washington Post for bloviating.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:22 amRantingTommy says, “Only gullible rubes believe the propaganda from FOX.”
Unfortunately, the majority of Americans today are “gullible rubes”.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:22 amFAUX boasts of high ratings. Why do only wingnuts watch FAUX? They have contracts with bars and airports and military installations requiring them to show FAUX 24/7 to manipulate the statisics. They can’t even face reality there. If they are so popular, wouldn’t they pick up some viewers besides the wingnuts? Also we the majority have lives and watch NCAA baseball, basketball, discovery channel, Keith, Katie, and an mariad of other things, like movies while wingnuts cling to their alternate reality station and think they are not the minority of KKK, christian taliban, and neo-nut chickenhawks.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:23 amRantingTommy Says:
the funniest thing is when right wingers pretend FOX is the most popular news source on tv, ignoring the fact that they get TROUNCED by the ratings of network news (which of course, right wing rubes think has a liberal bias)
Way to state you’re opinion as fact! Fox is killing all of the lefty leaning networks combined but never let FACTS disrupt leftwing fantasy!
hahahahahaha
June 18th, 2009 at 11:23 amJust Fox News doing more of the same. Take a sound bite, misquote it, and twist it so that they are the only good guys in a world gone bad… in a way that’s contradictory to the other newscasters on the same station.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:23 amBilbo, excellent point, but I think you fail o recognize that wahat RC’s handle refers to is the way the right wing demands that people check reality at the door when they enter the Faux News “alternate reality” that Krauthammer identified last week.
So in their alternate reality, perhaps Faux really does “kick all other news outlets”. We have no way of knowing without, y’know, checking reality at the door and entering their world.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:24 am“Faux News, we distort with legal lies.”
In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:25 amWOW! Bilbo……reality was right….
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_tuesday_june_16_119227.asp#more
My whole world has been turned upside down!!!! HOW CAN THIS BE? I thought WE were the majority……Oh! How must we feel?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:26 amRantingTommy Says:
Only gullible rubes believe the propaganda from FOX
You’ve distilled it down to the essence, Tommy.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:26 amI’ve been saying this for years. I think most people from the NYC area of a certain age group know Hannity and O’Liely for exactly what they are; classic, old school, New York conmen carrying on a long tradition of conning the old folks and the rubes.
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rc,
if you really cared about fox
you’d watch fox business news.
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they need your help.
“help!”
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June 18th, 2009 at 11:26 amThis guy has a “look” that is entirely different from the typical “nerdy look” of Newt, Hannity, Rove etc.
This guy looks “scarey”…something like a cross between Ivan The Terrible and Dracula. Maybe he rents out for parties?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:27 amRealityCheck Says:
Way to state you’re opinion as fact! Fox is killing all of the lefty leaning networks combined but never let FACTS disrupt leftwing fantasy!
hahahahahaha
June 18th, 2009 at 11:23 am
It’s “your,” not “you’re.”
I guess you don’t see the irony of stating YOUR opinion as fact every single time you post a comment.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:27 amRealityCheck Says
June 18th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Way to state you’re opinion as fact! Fox is killing all of the lefty leaning networks combined but never let FACTS disrupt leftwing fantasy!
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Says the troll who is making an absurd statement, insisting it’s fact, and can’t provide any evidence to support it.
Can we get a better grade of troll here, please? This one doesn’t even meet minimum requirements.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:28 amPachydiplax de St. Augustine Says:
“I chirp whatever the blue blogs tell me to chirp, debunked or not.”
June 18th, 2009 at 11:29 amSlappyBastinado Says:
WOW! Bilbo……reality was right….
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_tuesday_june_16_119227.asp#more
My whole world has been turned upside down!!!! HOW CAN THIS BE? I thought WE were the majority……Oh! How must we feel?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:26 am
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we are.
:)
now your world
is right side up again.
happy?
i am.
:)
June 18th, 2009 at 11:29 amralph the wonder locust says, “The Jonathan Pryce character in “Tomorrow Never Dies” was a fictionalized version of Murdoch. And, yes, he was a villain.”
I’ll have to rent that movie again. Thanks.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:29 ammisscoleopteramolly Says:
Says the sock puppet that talks to himself!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:30 amZooey Says:
RealityCheck Says:
Way to state you’re opinion as fact! Fox is killing all of the lefty leaning networks combined but never let FACTS disrupt leftwing fantasy!
hahahahahaha
June 18th, 2009 at 11:23 am
It’s “your,” not “you’re.”
I guess you don’t see the irony of stating YOUR opinion as fact every single time you post a comment.
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their poor grades
are holding them back.
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June 18th, 2009 at 11:30 amOur friend should really stop slapping his bastinado, and learn to read.
For the week of February 9-15, 2009, Brian Williams’ broadcast averaged 9.444 million total viewers, compared with Gibson’s 8.187 million and Katie Couric’s 6.750 million total viewers.
as compared to:
Overall, Fox News averaged 1.2 million viewers during the entire first quarter.
I’d suggest that “Check Reality at the Door” learn to read, but I suspect that’s a lost cause.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:31 amThey have contracts with bars and airports and military installations requiring them to show FAUX 24/7 to manipulate the statisics.
Can you provide a credible source for this bs?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:32 amI’d like to give a shout out to all those who are observing the FnF on our little Parrot.
Should only be a matter of time before Pee starts busting seems and blowing gaskets.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:35 amFocus, focus…..there….gyros operating, functions nominal…..all clear for throttle up…….back on schedule!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:36 amSorry… “busting SEAMS”
oy.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:36 amFOx was always the “voice of opposition” —
during the Bush years they staunchly opposed anything that did not follow the Bush agenda to the letter.
Now they are staunchly opposed to anything that the President or anyone who is not a supporter of the republic fascist party presents.
However, they never opposed the cheap exploitation of women.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:36 amXisithrus Says:
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299 million people didnt hear a word olbermahn said.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:39 amralph…..stop with the sillyness…. FOX is NOT in the freeloader tv market with NBC. (at least be honest with your self)
June 18th, 2009 at 11:39 amSlappyBastinado Says:
WOW! Bilbo……reality was right….
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_tuesday_june_16_119227.asp#more
My whole world has been turned upside down!!!! HOW CAN THIS BE? I thought WE were the majority……Oh! How must we feel?
Me? I feel great!
I know that I can get my news from ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, HLN…the list is pretty long, and there are plenty of places to choose from.
Conservatives…well, they only have Fox. Oh, and Pajamas TV.
So I look at it in a commercialized sense. Let’s say a product was sold in a red and blue version. The red version was sold at only one store, while the blue version was sold in six stores.
The way I see it, I can get my blue product at more stores. If I wanted the red product, I have only one store. My guess is that you’d see better sales at that one store versus the other individual stores, buuuuuut…the blue product could be actually selling better when the total sales are viewed.
So you keep it up with those SCOREBOARD! chants. Me, I’ll be watching the not-Fox channel.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:40 amComparing FAUX News to cable news channels is like comparing it to the Home Shopping Network. It ain’t the same thing, so the comparison isn’t relevant.
In fact, it would be more appropriate to compare its ratings to E!
FAUX News is “news entertainment” in much the same way that pro wrestling is “sports entertainment.” It looks kind of like the thing it’s pretending to be, except without all the boring rules and truth and stuff.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:41 amAmerican Patriot Says:
“I have a bird brain so I chirp.”
June 18th, 2009 at 11:42 am92 Jeffy Bovine sez
Can you provide a credible source for this bs?
Krauthammer himself, KKKlownnity, Billdo, Baboon Beck, they have admitted to be commentators, not NEWS reporters.
Satisfied, Jeffy Bovine?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 amPurple State I must admit I watch “Farm news” on the RFD-TV cable channel…..cattle futures, weed control and tractor care are a “must” at my house.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:45 amTHanks for your concern, Slappy, but the issue was RC’s claim that “Fox is kicking all the other news outlets combined!!!!”
If you’re honest with yourself, you must recognize that RC made no distinction between broadcast and cable outlets, and broadcast networks certainly have to be considered “news outlets”, right?
Thanks for playing. Pick up a stuffed bear on your way out.
A small one.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:46 amI have tractors on my mind right now…..but I like bears as as well……….
June 18th, 2009 at 11:51 am103 SloppyMasterBater
So, you do not watch Fox Business Channel?
You know, for the Economy and Business NEWS.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:51 amI sometimes wonder if the talking heads at foxnoise have incentives built into their contracts. Whoever comes up with the craziest sht gets a bonus. Id be willing to bet that nutjob beck would far exceed his base salary.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:53 amSlappyBastinado Says:
Purple State I must admit I watch “Farm news” on the RFD-TV cable channel…..cattle futures, weed control and tractor care are a “must” at my house.
I’ll tell you that the Farm News channel isn’t the best place to get information on manure.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:54 amNow, now… it would not be effective propoganda if the sheeple enamored by it actually questioned its validity on any point. As soon as propoganda is questioned, it fails. So, in regards as to effective propoganda, FOX has done a stellar job with those who do tune in regularly (however, those claiming great ratings, or even good ratings, are assimilating in their claims those people who just tune in to one or two shows that they like, that are not part of the propoganda — thus, to claim that the ‘ratings’ show popularity and thus validate the “news” or “commentary” content as having merit are being even more dishonest as they assimilate as part of their data an unknown number who do not ever watch those “news” shows that they claim the ‘ratings’ validate).
June 18th, 2009 at 11:55 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
RealityCheck Says:
Fox is kicking all the other news outlets combined!!!!
“Would you like to provide some proof of that. Because the only place Fixed can claim they rein supreme is on cable.”
To add to your post Bilbo, the ONLY demographic that FAUX leads in consistently within the cable news realm is with the older and dying off geriatric crowd. MSNBC and CNN consistently beat FAUX in the more important 18-35 year old crowd. You know, the people responsible for the downfall of the Reich Wing. Keep squawking trolls, you only help prove the point that those on the right in the media, in Washington or on the blogs will do and say anything to smear the President. It doesn’t matter what is right for America to the right wing, just that they go to any length to oppose progress.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:01 pm107 sscncturn64
KKKlownnity is feeling the heat.
Baboon Beck has a better time slot and his poo flinging act along with *sniff, sniff* patriotic concern preempts KKKlownnity from out babooning him.
The Baboon came up with his B$ 9/12 comedy and KKKlownnity was late with his idiotic B$ “Liberty Tree”
Also Billdo has had several times the Baboon over to lick his ACORNS, er, nutz in homage to the Mighty Falafel.
KKKlownnity is quickly approaching Frankestein Face status.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:09 pmIrrelevant, unwatchable, trite, deflated.
Looks like Pee decided to retreat and avoid having to get his gaskets replaced.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:13 pmHBO and Comedy Central both kick FAUX News’s ass. So… that means something!
Look, it’s very nice that you have a TV channel that looks like a news channel but which solely exists to make you feel good about your existing political biases. Have fun with that. But stop trying to compare it to real news channels. You’re just being ridiculous.
FAUX News makes no attempt to conduct journalistic fact-checking or evenhandedness. They run with whatever propaganda makes their wingnut audience feel good about believing what they believe. They avoid mention of anything that might upset the delicate balance their viewers require in order to continue to believe such outrageous and insane things.
But that’s not news.
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A Patriotic Anopheles Acting Says:
To add to your post Bilbo, the ONLY demographic that FAUX leads in consistently within the cable news realm is with the older and dying off geriatric crowd. MSNBC and CNN consistently beat FAUX in the more important 18-35 year old crowd.
It’s almost impossible to advertiser-boycott them since all of their ads are for buying gold, life insurance, or getting one of those wheelchair scooter thingies for free on your Medicare.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pmWhat is this another frigging troll conference?
June 18th, 2009 at 12:26 pmDon’t these trolls have to work or go to school?
As for Krauthammer: Wonder how many papers he’s carried in.
ButI would see why right-wingers would like him: spew the same crap over and over again and hope it sticks.
tony and lido
American Patriot Says:
Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says:
“I chirp whatever the blue blogs tell me to chirp, debunked or not.”
June 18th, 2009 at 12:28 pm========
the von Brunn virus is continuing to spread.
Emphasized for the fact that Fox showing Hover-Round at all is extremely ironic.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:29 pmAmerican Patriot Says:
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They have contracts with bars and airports and military installations requiring them to show FAUX 24/7 to manipulate the statisics.
by “kasinica/sock”
Can you provide a credible source for this bs?
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Krauthammer himself, KKKlownnity, Billdo, Baboon Beck, they have admitted to be commentators, not NEWS reporters.
by below average spaniard
No proof of these said “contracts? Thought not. Go back to looking for rocks, ok?
June 18th, 2009 at 12:31 pmWasn’t it the people on Faux that were screaming, “Criticising the President is treasonous and Unamerican.”?
They should have been more clear about that with, “Criticising A REPUBLICIAN President is treasonous and Unamerican.”
Fcuk Faux
June 18th, 2009 at 12:32 pmMcDonald’s sells millions of burgers every day. That doesn’t make them good.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pmThe fact-free troll demands proof…for anything.
Too funny.
Dismissed.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:43 pmSlappyBastinado Says: I get all my news from Talk Radio the coverage of the news is so incomplete and shallow that we are a few YEARS behind and still studying the Clinton Gore admin.
Floated Your Turd, YVW.
Slappy Slappy Slappy. Olbermann, who I dont watch, I dont watch Teebee very often to tell the truth, doesnt call his show NEWS.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pmZooey, consider how miserable someone would be if he wanted nothing more than attention from others, yet his only means of getting that attention drove others to ignore him?
Would you have any sympathy for such a pathetic person?
Me either.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pmI disagree with Krauthammer,
Although FOX may well be a media blitz against OBAMA in the White House.
FOX is really just a corporate propaganda tool for the corporate interests only. Using issues to divide Americans in the corporations best interest.
FOX is basicaly on the opposite side of 74% of the country.
Was FOX ever in opposition to George Bush and his White House? EVER? FOX is going to have to spend more and more to hold that 20% of Bush dittoheads in viewing attendance in the future.
It won’t be long before FOX’s main viewership is in the deep racial south.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:47 pmralph, I’d have sympathy for the people around him/her.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:48 pmFLOCKS NOOSE
Alternative Reality Yoked Sheople Can Believe In
June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pmzooey is a dyke. According to zooey one needs no proof to make claims.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pmGets lonely at the bottom don’t it. Kinda makes you homesick doesn’t it?
June 18th, 2009 at 12:50 pmdoesnt call his show NEWS.
Msdnc touts the tool as a “journalist” which he isn’t by any stretch of the imagination.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:52 pmAmerican Patriot Says: zooey is a dyke
Well, no, I dont think she is, but then again I am not concerned what people do in private unlike those who feign concern over anothers soul to rationalize their authoritarian BS
Now, step away from the window and get back to your fry machine and start cooking McNuggets.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:54 pmAh yes… out w/ that cooped up inner adolescent, Pee.
It’s been working so hard under the surface these last few days.
Let it shine.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:54 pmOFnF on AP ASAP
June 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pmMedia Bistro/TV Newser, sure that’s real important. How many media buyers use this propaganda site to purchase time. ZERO. It’s another Fox tool. Just like every auto manufacturer supports its own magazine and wins those awards every year. All the sites with actual information have to be paid to give up their data. That’s why Fox gets away with lying about their viewers.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:59 pmMsdnc touts the tool as a “journalist” which he isn’t by any stretch of the imagination. -=APee=-
Journalism, newspapermen, write columns in papers. I dont know that Olbermann writes columns.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:03 pmThat’s why Fox gets away with lying about their viewers.
Does your a-hole get sore from talking out of it?
June 18th, 2009 at 1:04 pmralph the wonder locust, Brian William is HOT! Does he do the news? :)
June 18th, 2009 at 1:04 pmThe troll called me a name.
Oh wow, now my feelings are SO hurt.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:04 pmI dont know that Olbermann writes columns.
Maybe zucker calls him a “journalist” based on his kos blogs? LOL!
June 18th, 2009 at 1:06 pmDoes your a-hole get sore from talking out of it?
I dont know if O’Reilly is sore or not.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:07 pmZooey Says:
The troll called me a name.
Oh wow, now my feelings are SO hurt.
Poor widdle thing is getting testy because no one wants to play with it.
Who wants to play with dog poop?
June 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pmMaybe zucker calls him a “journalist” based on his kos blogs? LOL!
Your writing on a blog, does that make you a journalist?
June 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pmBILL MOYERS: Yeah, I noticed when you a sportscaster you never took sides between the teams on the field. But a lot of people think you’ve taken sides now. They think you’ve taken sides with the progressive or liberal story.
KEITH OLBERMANN: They didn’t say that a lot during the Lewinsky thing. I always find that kind of ironic as I’ve seen some of the criticism from the right. But, what I’ve done on the air in the last 4 1/2 years, and particularly in the last year and a half since the special comments began, is really journalism.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:11 pmOFnF works
June 18th, 2009 at 1:12 pmThen she gets Jimmy to massage it for her.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:13 pmPee >> Tree >> Eat
SPECIAL COMMENT
June 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pmBy Keith Olbermann
Anchor, ‘Countdown’
msnbc.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Keith_Olbermann%27s_special_comments
Its commentary…Olbermann doesnt call it news, like I said before. At least he is honest about his POV unlike FOX that hides behind slogans such as Fair and Balanced
Thats what this thread is about FOX
Now, meet Iggy APee
June 18th, 2009 at 1:20 pmX, the American Parrot is the subject of a current Flag n Freeze op. It’s working wonders, as the childish name-calling directed at Zooey indicates.
Can we count on your support?
June 18th, 2009 at 1:22 pmRarely does it satisfy to make assumptions based on someone’s appearance, but if you don’t look at krauthammer and see an evil fook spewing lies and calumny for profit then we are on opposite poles of the moral compass. Wasn’t he bragging last week about Fox’s “alternate reality”, which this week is the loyal “opposition”?
The man lies for a living. His job is to distort, manipulate, and destroy. Look at his face.
“The eyes are the window to the soul.”
June 18th, 2009 at 1:35 pmstewarjt Says:
If the implication here is that Venezuelans have a one sided, pro-government media, this is false. This is unsurprising coming from a professional propagandist like Krauthammer.
Well, it’s not from a lack of trying.
From Mark Weisbrot, “Eyes Wide Shut: The International Media Look at Venezuela”:
That’s from 2007. Things are bleaker this year.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:44 pmAmerican Patriot Says:
zooey is a dyke. According to zooey one needs no proof to make claims.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
***
“dyke!”
the cry of the conservative
who can’t get laid.
:)
:|
keep trying am. pat.,
someday your dream girl
will arrive.
:)
June 18th, 2009 at 3:11 pmVery few conservatives are born- nearly all develop from liberals as they mature. The simple difference- conservatives seek objective fact, and form opinions AROUND them. Liberals seek only those facts which support their agenda. Fox News usually has at least one liberal on most of its discussion panels and (gasps) even lets them talk. Juan Williams of NPR, deomocratic strategist, Bob Bechtel, Susan Estrich, who managed Michael Dukakis’ campaign, and others (Alan Colmes etc.)are regulars on Fox. Watch Fox and hear both sides, not so much with their competitors.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pmnofreelunch Says:
Very few conservatives are born- nearly all develop from liberals as they mature. The simple difference- conservatives seek objective fact, and form opinions AROUND them. Liberals seek only those facts which support their agenda. Fox News usually has at least one liberal on most of its discussion panels and (gasps) even lets them talk. Juan Williams of NPR, deomocratic strategist, Bob Bechtel, Susan Estrich, who managed Michael Dukakis’ campaign, and others (Alan Colmes etc.)are regulars on Fox. Watch Fox and hear both sides, not so much with their competitors.
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this paragraph meanders.
try again.
…
“gasps”?
:)
June 18th, 2009 at 3:28 pmZooey Says:
The troll called me a name.
Oh wow, now my feelings are SO hurt.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
***
when they have no facts
that’s what they usually do.
right, freecorporatelunch?
:)
:)
June 18th, 2009 at 3:32 pmUnemployment is 28.8% Use of foodstamps is 30%. Hundreds of buildings are left vacant by the nearly one million residents who have left. Thousands of businesses have closed since the city’s population peaked six decades ago. There is no grocery chain in the city. The city is Detroit, and it has been controlled by liberal democrats for over 60 years. These are objective facts.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pmnofreelunch Says:
Very few conservatives are born- nearly all develop from liberals as they mature.
No. What you call “conservatives” are crazy people. Maybe they are “made not born” but that’s because they’ve been thoroughly indoctrinated into madness.
BTW, I used to be much less liberal than I am now.
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nofreelunch Says:
The simple difference- conservatives seek objective fact, and form opinions AROUND them.
No. Iraq had WMD’s? Reducing taxes always helps the economy no matter what? Institutional racism is a myth? Threatening other countries will force them to obey you out of fear? These are all dogmatic beliefs held by “conservatives” today, and are contrary to the facts.
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nofreelunch Says:
Fox News usually has at least one liberal on most of its discussion panels and (gasps) even lets them talk.
No. I’ve never seen any of these people on FAUX Noise. Maybe they let one of them on once in a while, but the majority of panels is a bunch of right-wingers agreeing with each other. Whenever they do let a liberal on, they gang up and loudly berate them.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:39 pmThere are only two categories of liberals: The Power Seekers and the Dupes. The Power Seekers understand perfectly well what they are doing, undermining and dividing America, and they do it for their narrow goal of short term gains of power. Almost all liberal leaders, whether elected officials, union leaders, civil rights gurus, professional feminist, some political columnist or college professors etc., are in this category. The Dupes are a little different. They have a child’s political philosophy. They are the true believers, who believe in the face of all evidence to the contrary, that liberalism improves peoples lives. Think Detroit.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:41 pmGoodbye Children, until next time. THINK!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 3:44 pmI just got blinded by a flying troll ,
June 18th, 2009 at 3:53 pmNotice how he cut out before he had his arse handed to him.
Chicken trolls.
And for the record most conservatives are brought up in an authortarian household. FACT
tony and li;do
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nofreelunch Says:
Goodbye Children, until next time. THINK!!!!
June 18th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
…
the free market economy of iceland.
based on the free market principles
of milton friedman.
…
i added the link in case you
didn’t know who he was.
wonder why he’s laughing…
:::
think.
(if you can.)
:)
June 18th, 2009 at 4:11 pmnofreelunch Says:
Unemployment is 28.8% Use of foodstamps is 30%. Hundreds of buildings are left vacant by the nearly one million residents who have left. Thousands of businesses have closed since the city’s population peaked six decades ago. There is no grocery chain in the city. The city is Detroit, and it has been controlled by liberal democrats for over 60 years. These are objective facts.
No, these are from the “Midas Letter“.
AGAIN please cite your sources, AP/0$. Stop snitchin’.
June 18th, 2009 at 5:10 pmnofreelunch Says:
Unemployment is 28.8% Use of foodstamps is 30%. Hundreds of buildings are left vacant by the nearly one million residents who have left. Thousands of businesses have closed since the city’s population peaked six decades ago. There is no grocery chain in the city. The city is Detroit…
Aren’t conservatives the ones who were trying to drive the American auto industry into bankruptcy so you could bust up the unions? Well, congratulations. There’s your result.
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nofreelunch Says:
There are only two categories of liberals: The Power Seekers and the Dupes.
Oh, I see your problem. You keep saying “liberals” where you mean to say neocons.
This is a pretty common tactic – describe your worst qualities, and then switch the names to your enemies. When we point out that you’re the real offender, the entire thing dissolves into a “no u” argument. That way you can fend off any criticism as a he-said/she-said sort of thing. You do the same thing with fascism and racism.
This post is particularly egregious, since in every lie that you people spawn about the left, its leaders and their policies, it’s so easily debunked that I keep thinking “Somebody knew. The person who first typed up this chain email knew they were lying. They couldn’t not have known that they were trying to intentionally mislead others. And all of those other conservatives passed it on believing it as truth.” It’s the evil leading the stupid.
June 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pmEvery time I look at KRAUTHAMMER’S face, I get the impression there is an invisible turd under his nose! Is it just me?
June 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pmThe other common tactic, ElBruce, is the fact that this is our good friend obamawipe$/American Patriot swiping other peoples’ comments at Pajamas media. Or at least someone’s deleted comments there.
June 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pmPurple State Says:
The other common tactic, ElBruce, is the fact that this is our good friend obamawipe$/American Patriot swiping other peoples’ comments at Pajamas media. Or at least someone’s deleted comments there.
…
wipey?
plagiarizing again?
:|
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