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Example: today’s demonstrations were treated as a “mourning” demonstration (i.e. religious) rather than a political demonstration. Not coincidentally, we’re starting to hear about police and militia refusing to conduct violence on the demonstrators today.

Example: protestors safely removing police and militia members from the crowd and taking them to safety rather than taking them hostage or beating them to death. Somebody in those crowds was being amazingly decent, to the level that suggests that they must have a specific moral code requiring them to do so.

Example: Tonight, with all other communications shut off, protestors in Iran have been shouting “Alaho Akbar!” to each other from the rooftops, to let each other know they aren’t alone; that their numbers are strong.

Example: Tomorrow’s protests take place on the Iranian version of the “sabbath” that is, the day of the week that they’re supposed to spend in religious activities. The protest crowds are going to be bigger than ever.

Plain fact: Even if Mousavi ends up prevailing, don’t assume that Iran will be secular. The protest movement is intentionally using many of the same methods that the Iranian Revolution used in ‘79. And it’s working again.

Look at it from their point of view – the way everything plays out is, it’s a question of who’s being the better Muslim; as long as there’s a religious excuse, one can’t be blamed or oppressed for protesting; to do so is un-Islamic. As long as they do it “properly,” the protestors can get away with protesting, since the only legal reason to crush them would be to claim they were “un-Islamic.” But they still have the ability to claim they’re being “pro-Islamic.”

From what we’ve all seen, this all plays out in terms of strict religious morality.

I’m just impressed that religion is being employed for an actually good cause for once. God knows it hasn’t before in my lifetime.

PS: Is that ElBruce-ian enough for you?

1. Frankly, it’s not that bad. These are decent people, and their religion is a big part of their decency.

2. Whatever comes out of this – either way – will still be profoundly “Islamist.”

On the one hand, they’ve got this f**ked up religion that makes their women hide themselves as second-class citizens. On the other hand, it ties their hands againt the worst kinds of abuses that they might be able to conduct otherwise.

As an American, all I can say in response to what I’ve seen so far is… Alaho Akbar!

Is APee and Jimmeh doing more than dating?

And, no, I am not posting to you APee but about you.

He used to be one of the TP crew!

Really? I didn’t know that.

He’s like the Walter Cronkite of this issue. None of the TV channels have more than 5% of what he’s putting up, and that over 24 hours late.

Remember back during Gulf War I when CNN’s coverage made the concept of 24-hour cable news permanently viable as a primary source for news for average Americans? I think that’s what Nico’s work on this is doing for web/blogging is the same thing now.

Also gotta give a shout-out to Andrew Sullivan at the Atlantic who’s been running a pretty good liveblog himself.

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Mathazar Says:

WOW, Mousavi’s spokesman compares Obama to Mousavi and Bush to Ahmadinejad.

Oh come on, we were all thinking it.

Ouch. That’s gotta hurt. There’s only one glaring differance.

When Bush stole the election, there weren’t millions of protesters in the streets.

We’ll do. :)

Sitting on his thumbs is “policy?”