Republican party drops to Cheney-levels of unpopularity.
By on Jun 19th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Republican party drops to Cheney-levels of unpopularity.
A NBC/WSJ poll released this week showed that Vice President Cheney now has a 26 percent approval rating, “up eight points from April.” However, Greg Sargent today points out that the “overall popularity of the Republican Party has now dropped” below Cheney’s “abysmal level.” In fact, the party is now at only 25 percent, down four points from April. “Okay, the difference is within the margin of error, making this a statistical tie,” said Sargent. “But still, this is pretty awful for the GOP, given that for a long time Cheney’s historic unpopularity seemed to define a kind of low-water mark among Republicans.”
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After todays vote against the President in the House, I’d be more interested in seeing the approval rating of the Democratic party.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:13 pmSmall Dick Cheney needs to step it up. Seems they are competing with each other to see who can get the lowest approval. Every day they fight HARD for that badge of honor!
June 19th, 2009 at 4:14 pmI say the republicans bottom out at 16%.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:14 pmGetting pretty crowded down there in the bunker I imagine.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:15 pmVote against what? Is that what Faux noise is telling you to think today?
June 19th, 2009 at 4:15 pm…
this will change once
sarah palin’s beauty care
products infomercials
begin running in 47 key markets.
…
watch the pendulum swing.
:)
June 19th, 2009 at 4:15 pmRepublicans can finally say…
“We’re Number One!!”
Someone should tell them low score wins in golf. Not politics.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:17 pmTodd’s Moose Juice malt liquor will liven the ‘party’ up by New Years.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:18 pmIn fact, the party is now at only 25 percent
It’s that high ?
June 19th, 2009 at 4:18 pmDon’t worry. I’m sure their stance against health care reform, against reform of the financial markets and against confirmation of judges who are not white haired white skinned conservative males will soon make that approval rating move. . . below 20%
June 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pmWell… Well.. Well. So the Repugs have finally hit rock bottom. Please. They will sink even lower. This whole Ensign affair is just getting started. Now you add Faux News, Megan Kelly and his good Pal Colburn into the mix and you have a bigger scandal. Quite frankly, I could give a crap about Ensigns personal life, but as a so-called ‘Religiuos Consevative’ he has sullied himself even further. Him and Vitter should win hypocrits of the year.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm…
you know guys like
am. pat. are working
overtime to reverse this trend.
…
they just might do it.
:|
June 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pmThe level of stupidity in this comment is indicative of the partisan mindset that’s tearing this country apart.
I don’t watch Fox News, nor would I need to to know about the vote against the Presidents “non interference” policy on the Iranian elections.
All I, (or you if you had a brain) have to do is scroll down a few threads to the Think Progress article on the vote in the House today, where 233 Democrats (i.e. ALL of them) voted for Republican Mike Pence’s nonsense, and against President Obama’s wisdom.
Try reading before painting people as republicans just because they know things you apparently don’t.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:25 pmLet the (R) circular finger pointing squad begin
June 19th, 2009 at 4:26 pm…
just kiddin’!
:)
June 19th, 2009 at 4:27 pmBy the way their “score” is going so low…
…one must wonder if these are Golfers Or Politicians?
June 19th, 2009 at 4:29 pmHow can this be?
By listening to them talk they CLAIM to have the answer to EVERYTHING…lol
June 19th, 2009 at 4:31 pmIts rather amusing that all the hissy fits, FLOCKS Noose propaganda, all the feigned anger, the big tent bootings are all having just the opposite effect of what intended to rally the shrinking base.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:31 pmThe fact is most partisan hacks spend their time railing on the opposition without ever bothering to look at the opposition within their own party.
This morning, every single member of the House of Representatives voted against President Obama’s instructions to avoid even the very APPEARANCE of “meddling” in the Iranian elections, and instead voted for the hard line neoconservative whackjob, Mike Pence, and his “resolution” to take sides in the Iranian elections.
This vote is a kick in the kneecaps to the President, making him appear almost lame as not one single solitary democrat was willing to stand by him, and worse, it damages out of the gate the President’s attempts to rebuild relations with President Ahmadinejad once this “revolt” comes to its inevitable conclusion.
Rebuilding relations with Ahmadinejad is a key issue for on the President’s agenda, and this morning, every single democratic member of the House voted to cripple that agenda right out of the gate.
Instead of always waving the partisan flag and cheering the partisan chants, try looking once in a while at the enemy within.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:31 pmIts like the wicked witch of the west pouring water on herself
June 19th, 2009 at 4:32 pmI know a way they can get their approval back up — resign
June 19th, 2009 at 4:36 pmWAYNEBRO@19, Jeez. You are like a dog with a bone. ‘A kick in the knee-caps’ ‘appearing almost lame’? Saying the Prez is lame is stupid. As of now the Pres poll numbers are in the 60’s (give or take a few points) and the Repugs are in the toilet. So much for being ‘lame’
June 19th, 2009 at 4:41 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
All I, (or you if you had a brain) have to do is scroll down a few threads to the Think Progress article on the vote in the House today, where 233 Democrats (i.e. ALL of them) voted for Republican Mike Pence’s nonsense, and against President Obama’s wisdom.
Also, against the wishes of many iranians as well. But who gives a flying f… about them, right? This is about the GOP’s God-given right to make NONBINDING RESOLUTIONS!
June 19th, 2009 at 4:42 pm…but..but..but Cheney wants to keep us safe…Oh my, I’m soooo scared.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:45 pm.
LIE-CHEAT-STEELE…
… The “NEW” G(no)P
Still wishin’ and hopin’ for failure…
… And coming ever so closer to that realization.
… THEIR OWN!
.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:46 pmP.D. Says:
WAYNEBRO@19, Jeez. You are like a dog with a bone. ‘A kick in the knee-caps’ ‘appearing almost lame’? Saying the Prez is lame is stupid. As of now the Pres poll numbers are in the 60’s (give or take a few points) and the Repugs are in the toilet. So much for being ‘lame’
Poll numbers don’t matter that much, wasn’t bush’s poll numbers up in the 90’s right after 9-11? They were still pretty high when he played top-gun and declared mission accomplished. Obama’s poll numbers are pretty low with me right now. On all the important stuff, he’s taken a joe leibermann stance. While that’s better than a larry craig stance it still sucks in my book…
June 19th, 2009 at 4:46 pmAfter their vote against the war bill and giving some
June 19th, 2009 at 4:47 pmB_ _ _ _ _ _ _ reason why might have something to do with it. I most admit I love it!!!!
The Republicans, by allowing only the rabid right mouthpieces to speak for them, and by obstructing everything just for the sake of obstruction, and by openly hoping President Obama fails, have succeeded in distilling their party faithful down to their loyal core of kool-aid drinkers and alienating everybody else.
They have managed to marginalize themselves. And they still don’t have a clue. Does anybody think the 2010 midterms will wake them up? Nah — they’ll campaign on the same rhetoric that handed them defeats in 2006 and 2008.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:48 pmHere genius.
Try and learn something.
This is why the democrats get away with this stuff.
Because the partisan hacks like you are so busy waving the partisan flag that you never bother to look at what’s really happening right under your nose.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:48 pmBobwurst@26, You make an excellent point. Obama has let me down too. The torture memos, ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’, and so on.. But I still rather have him than McCain/Palin. Man, that sends shivers down my spine
June 19th, 2009 at 4:51 pmGee, the gross obstructionist party is sagging down in the polls, what a surprise. Let by their gaggle of Republican Mullahs: Mullah Rush (unelected), Mullah Cheney (retired), Mullah McCain (in office), Mullah Sarah (in office), Mullah Beck (unelected), Mullah Newt (retired), Mullah O’Reilly (unelected), Mullah Bush (retired), and so on, what do they expect.
The G.O.P. needs to face up to their eight years of goosestepping eight long years of torture, treason and tyranny under Bush and Cheney. They need to express some contrition for their contributions to this present mess.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:52 pmWaynebro, there is no gain in agitation now. That would only incite those that already know where the United States stands on Iran.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:52 pmWell as most in here, you’re not getting it.
The President is using his head.
Everyone else is using their hot-head.
This “revolt” in Iran is not likely to succeed. Regardless of US support. In fact, our support is likely to ensure it’s failure, as hardline anti US factions and power squash it.
All this voice of “support” for the opponents of Ahmadinejad is going to do is make it that much more difficult for the President to follow through on his agenda of healing the rift between the US and Iran, and rebuilding relations with President Ahmadinejad.
Why people can’t see that is because they, unlike the President, are too busy ranting and raving to recognize the actual reality of the situation.
In a nutshell, the republicans are playing you like cheap plastic banjos.
Just like they played Congress today.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:54 pmWatch the floor drop out of these ratings after the full affect of the Ensign affair sinks in. RawStory has a must read on it.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:55 pmWAYNEBRO, Thanks! I have never been called a genius before. A smart-ass, yes. Genius, no. Thanks for making my day.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pmanybody know what herpes approval rating is?
June 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pmuhhh, yea.
Which is what I’ve been saying now for the last hour.
Try reading what I wrote prior to commenting on it.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pmAre there any expensive plastic banjos?
June 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pmpaleolib Says: Don’t worry. I’m sure their stance against health care reform, against reform of the financial markets and against confirmation of judges who are not white haired white skinned conservative males will soon make that approval rating move. . . below 20%
Don’t forget their wise advice on sticking our nose into the volatile Iran Election situation….that ought to count for a couple more points!
June 19th, 2009 at 4:58 pmhellinabucket@34, Yeah. This scandal is getting more sordid. Turns out Colburn knew about it then you add Faux News Megan Kelly, you got a story on wheels. MSM is staying pretty quiet on it.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:00 pmPlease forgive me waynebro for not reading every word you so carefully posted. Now about those plastic banjos……
June 19th, 2009 at 5:00 pmPerhaps before all the rabid anti-Waynbroites start with the confusion game, it would be best for me to restate my position in simpler terms.
As I said before, I STAND WITH THE PRESIDENT on his wise decision to avoid even the very appearance of “meddling” in the Iranian elections.
Doing so only circumvents the President’s attempts to rebuild relations with President Ahmadinejad, who will still be the Iranian president when this thing is over.
The President’s right here. And the republicans are playing the democrats like 50 cent plastic banjos.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:01 pmI take a bit different view in that the dems may have voted with the repubs so they couldnt use it to claim the dems are against democracy, civil rights etc etc.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:01 pmP.D. the initial letter to Fox is in the Raw Story report. Damn good stuff.
I’m off for now. I expect a detailed catalogging of the plastic banjo prices from you Waynebro.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:01 pmSweet schadenfreude. :)
June 19th, 2009 at 5:02 pmYou’re forgiven. I just don’t want confusion here where clarity is so evident. I stand by the President on this decision, and we ALL should.
He’s proceeding as a wise statesmen, and the republicans are playing on the democrats emotions, particularly with regards to “stolen elections”, not to mention painting Mousavi as some sort of “liberal”, which he’s not.
As for the banjos, all I can say is today, Mike Pence was Roy Clark.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:05 pmYes. They cost one democratic House vote apiece.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:07 pmWell, I dont ever think we should meddle in other countries elections or protests as we arent the elected worlds police force.
On the other hand our elected banjos, heh, like to play interventionist and have for some time now.
Now if Iran had come to us and said please help, thats quite another thing.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:12 pmhttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_ballot/generic_congressional_ballot
Democratic and Republican candidates are tied for the second straight week in the latest edition of the Generic Congressional Ballot.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 39% would vote for their district’s Democratic congressional candidate while 39% would choose the Republican.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:14 pmTry and understand.
The President’s agenda includes rebuilding relations with Iran. We know this uprising won’t succeed. We know that. The Iranian Military and police force is easily the most powerful in the middle east, and is almost 1 million active members strong.
This uprising was doomed to failure before it began. We already know that the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is supporting Ahmadinejad so that means Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will remain President. We already know this.
So siding with his opposition is ensured to do one thing and one thing only.
Cripple President Obama’s plans to rebuild US\Iran relations, and open dialogue with Ahmadinejad.
Even AP admits this vote today was intended as a rebuke of the President. So it’s foolishness to cheer it on.
The President’s right, and he’s thinking ahead, and setting the stage for peaceful relations with Iran.
For the Star Trek fans among you (I hope there’s a few), just consider President Obama’s decision to be honoring the “Prime Directive”.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:23 pmLooks like America is starting to pay attention, which isn’t good for Repukes.
Bye Bye ever shrinking big tent Republic Fascist Party, may you rot in hell.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:26 pmAnd those of you buying into Mike Pence and the republicans nonsense that Mousavi is some sort of a friend to the liberals are being played to the hilt.
Lets not forget Mousavi WAS Prime Minister before. In fact he was the 5th and last of the Prime Ministers, from 1981 to 1989.
And he wasn’t rolling out any red carpet to the US. In fact he was known as a puppet to the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and while he was “somewhat” better than Ahmadinejad, he’s certainly not going to be changing the Iranian nuclear policy anytime soon. He’s said he plans on continuing their nuclear program which is the key issue we have with Iran right now.
So even if the US were able to help him overthrow Ahmadinejad, where would we be?
Hate me if you want, but what I’m telling you is right.
Friends don’t let friends be played by republicans.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:30 pmCheney could care less of how low his popularity is. He said himself that he doesn’t care whether the people of America approve of him or not. The man is a sociopath. This man has a very dark heart.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:30 pmWhen Cheney, Limbaugh, Gingrich, everyone at Fox, etc., are the face you choose to show the country, you shouldn’t be surprised when the country tells you to get stuffed.
After all, the country has told you loud and clear in the last two elections what they think of that kind of leadership. So ask yoursleves, Reichies, just where have they led you?
June 19th, 2009 at 5:38 pmPerhaps it’s useful to consider the possibility that, when one particular poster seems to be at the center of so many instances of “confusion”, some of the fault could lie with the poster, as opposed to the multitudes of respondents who seem to so frequently misunderstand the original position.
just sayin’…
June 19th, 2009 at 5:38 pmWaynebro, this resolution is enough to make one want to vote the straight socialist ticket except it would probably help the repubs more than send a message to the dems.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:46 pmCheney and his spawn have been on every TV show and rightwing radio program in the nation — it is not surprising that his popularity has risen.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:47 pmThe party of NO however is living up (or down) to its reputation and if they continue being obstructionist while Americans are suffering, they will find themselves in single digit approvals —
hmmm, I was implying single digit ratings approvals, but a single digit alone is also appropros — if you know what I mean.
Rush Limbaugh: less popular then “partial-birth” abortion.
Michael Steele: less popular than marijuana legalization.
Mitch McConnell: less popular than abortion on demand.
John Boehner: less popular than increased immigration.
Favorability ratings of GOP leadership vs. public opinion on hot topics
Cannabis legalization favored by 31%
June 19th, 2009 at 5:47 pmLegal late term abortion favored by 28%
Legal abortion in all cases favored by 25%
Rush Limbaugh favorability 23%
Mitch McConnell favorability 22%
Michael Steele favorability 20%
Increased immigration favored by 18%
John Boehner favorability 15%
North Korea favorability 13%
.
.
.
Nonetheless all are still viewed more favorably than North Korea. Maybe the GOP should use that for a fund-raising slogan. “Send $$$! We’re more popular than Kim Jong Il!”
You would think the wingnuts would love this guy….
June 19th, 2009 at 5:52 pmBut but but fox has 3 million viewers a night, how could it be the repub approval is dropping?
Heh
June 19th, 2009 at 5:55 pmXisithrus Says:
But but but fox has 3 million viewers a night, how could it be the repub approval is dropping?
Heh
Empty appliance stores leaving their tv’s on?
June 19th, 2009 at 6:18 pmHere genius.
Try and learn something.
Well as most in here, you’re not getting it.
Because the partisan hacks like you are so busy waving the partisan flag that you never bother to look at what’s really happening right under your nose.
This morning, every single member of the House of Representatives voted against President Obama’s instructions to avoid even the very APPEARANCE of “meddling” in the Iranian elections, and instead voted for the hard line neoconservative whackjob, Mike Pence, and his “resolution” to take sides in the Iranian elections.
—————————————————
From the previous thread:
Ron Paul (R-TX) was the only no vote, while Reps. Brad Ellsworth (D-IN) and David Loebsack (D-IA) voted present.
I don’t think anything further needs be said. His own words say it all.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:20 pmNo Ralph, all you’re “just sayin” is the same juvenile tripe and personal attacks that you’re always saying.
If you’d read my previous comments you’d see there was no confusion. I was being sarcastic. My points were clear.
And they were 100 percent accurate.
And they still are.
Which is why instead of refuting those points, you instead try to turn this once more into a personal attack, and get me to defend, so that you can obscure the facts and focus on your own personal little vendetta with me.
Think I’m wrong?
Prove it.
Refute the point rather than trying to start a personal attack on me.
:|
Of course, we both know you can’t.
This is all you’ve got.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:23 pmAnd they were 100 percent accurate.
Tyr again.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:24 pmI was sooo bummed when Chuck Feney grabbed that moniker.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:25 pmOops, make that “try.”
If you’d read my previous comments you’d see there was no confusion. I was being sarcastic. My points were clear.
And they were 100 percent accurate.
And they still are.
Care to apologize?
Think I’m wrong?
Prove it.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:26 pmOf course, we both know you can’t.
Mmm… delicious crow, eh Waynebro?
June 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pmSee Ralph?
Plenty in here “get it”.
But of course this poster isn’t caught up in the petty, juvenile social butterfly nonsense that you and a handful like you are mired in.
As always, this isn’t about me. It’s about the issues.
And the issue today is that both houses of congress voted with hard line republican Mike Pence, to rebuke the President’s wise “hands off” approach on the Iranian elections and damage his attempts to heal the rift between the US and Iran.
Well said Rosada.
Well said.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pmAnd the issue today is that both houses of congress voted with hard line republican Mike Pence, to rebuke the President’s wise “hands off” approach on the Iranian elections and damage his attempts to heal the rift between the US and Iran.
Not exactly.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:28 pmAnd as usual, in comes the moron brigade.
The usual suspects.
Barf-fly and company, to make juvenile taunts without bothering to actually refute the issues.
For some reason, he thinks a simple “nuh uh” is enough to disprove a proven fact.
The issues he want’s nothing to do with.
Just a silly, juvenile argument.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:30 pmWow, your brain actually managed to generate enough electricity to move your fingers long enough to type two words.
Two words which equate to “nuh uh”.
Well, “nuh uh” back to you twit.
When you have something to actually say, you let me know.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:30 pmIf Dick Cheney and the Republican Party enjoy nearly identical approval ratings does this make him the spokesman for the GOP?
June 19th, 2009 at 6:31 pmJohnM Says:
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_ballot/generic_congressional_ballot
Democratic and Republican candidates are tied for the second straight week in the latest edition of the Generic Congressional Ballot.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 39% would vote for their district’s Democratic congressional candidate while 39% would choose the Republican.
Nice try moron but I looked at your study and it’s horribly flawed. I saw no examples of questions, no demographic information or margin of error. Any reputable study or poll includes that information.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:31 pmWe all know there’s a lot of folks out there who love conspiracies. They want to believe in bogymen.
They want to believe they’re better than other folks, smarter than other folks… so smart, in fact, they have figured out a way to be smarter easier… let Cheney et al. do the thinking for them!
They’re with the ‘in crowd’.. the A list. They identify with the rich and greedy (as opposed to rich folks that care about stuff). That’s why they side with the oil companies and other big business. They don’t need no stinkin’ clean water or air. Just stop them freakin’ abortions and God will save us.
These types have always been with us, and always will be with us.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:32 pmPlease read my first post again, and consider apologizing. That you apparently can’t see your own mistake is hilarious, but predictable.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:32 pmI stand with the President on the wisdom of not meddling in the affairs of the Iranian people.
Barfly and Ralph do not.
Not because of any reasoning or logic mind you.
:|
Just because it opposes me.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:32 pmWhen you have something to actually say, you let me know.
You look cute with that self-inflicted wedgie, waynebro.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:33 pmWe will know that both Cheney and the Repignofascist Party have climbed from their self-made abyss when their popularity is greater than syphillis. Until then we can continue to laugh our Cheney’s off that they. LOLOLOL couldn’t happen to a more deserving group of creeps.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:34 pmI read your post nitwit.
And the fact that two democrats chose to spinelessly abstain doesn’t change the fact that they did NOT stand with the President.
Voting “present” is not “standing with the President”.
:|
Moron.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:34 pmNot because of any reasoning or logic mind you.
I pointed out your mistake, and your unwarranted hyperbole regarding other posters’ cognitive abilities. Cry me a river.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:35 pmVoting “present” is not “standing with the President”.
But that’s not what you said:
This morning, every single member of the House of Representatives voted against President Obama’s instructions to avoid even the very APPEARANCE of “meddling” in the Iranian elections, and instead voted for the hard line neoconservative whackjob, Mike Pence, and his “resolution” to take sides in the Iranian elections.
Delicious.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:36 pmWhat mistake?
I said every single democrat member voted against the President, and a “PRESENT” vote is against the President.
Standing with the President, is a YAY vote.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:38 pmSo, you’re ready to walk back your previous statement, now that it’s been shown to be in error?
Or will you continue to call me names? I haven’t called you anything, and don’t intend to. It’s not necessary. You do a better job of exposing yourself.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:39 pmStanding with the President, is a YAY vote.
And now you’re parsing your own previous statement. Doubly delicious.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:40 pmIs atheism really a religion? The lack of religion?
Imposed in communist dictatorships?
The dream of a madman?
Inquiring minds would like to know!
June 19th, 2009 at 6:41 pmAll you’re doing barfly is confirming you have zero points to make other than trying to find some minute technicality in my words to attack ME on.
Proving you have zero interest in the issues.
Zero.
All you want to do is start a fight with me, and ignore the point I made.
Think I’m wrong?
Then go on.
Explain how 2 democrats voting “PRESENT” shows the house supported the President today.
Voting present is the same as abstaining.
It does not support the President, thus its the same as voting against in an overwhelming vote.
The vote was FOUR HUNDRED to ONE.
400
to
1
Show me the support for the president there, or admit that you’re nothing but a two bit punk trying to personally attack me, rather than deal with the issue I presented.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:42 pmThe part of this poll that should be really worrying the Republics is when the question was what political party the respondent was aligned with. Here are the results:
Strong Democrat………………21
Not very strong Democrat ……..10
Independent/lean Democrat……..10
Strictly independent …………18
Independent/lean Republican ……9
Not very strong Republican……..7
Strong Republican ……………14
Other (VOL)…………………..7
Not sure……………………..4
Only 14% said they are strong Republics. Another 7% say they are not very strong Republic. Add that to the recent poll that showed 33% of Republicans were not happy with the way their party is heading, the Republic party is in big trouble. They stand to lost that 7% who are weak Republics if they keep going they way they are going now.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:42 pmevery single member of the House of Representatives voted against President Obama’s instructions to avoid even the very APPEARANCE of “meddling” in the Iranian elections, and instead voted for the hard line neoconservative whackjob, Mike Pence, and his “resolution” to take sides in the Iranian elections.
Do you really want to play this game?
You’re going to lose. Badly.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:43 pmAnd there you see it.
Rather than deal with the issues, the three little stooges are here to attack me, and not the issues.
Not one of you wants to deal with the facts. Instead you want to bury the issue in your personal tirade of attacks like the juvenile half wits you are.
Today, the US Congress stood against the President and voted against his position.
I stand with the President.
You do not. Not because you’re philosophically opposed to his position.
:|
But simply because you’re philosophically opposed to me.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:45 pmShow me the support for the president there, or admit that you’re nothing but a two bit punk trying to personally attack me, rather than deal with the issue I presented.
Anyone reading this thread will immediately see who has resorted to ad hominems, and who has not.
Does their use improve your argument in some way, or refute your previous over-the-top statement? I don’t see it. When criticizing others, one must first make sure their own ass isn’t hanging out.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:46 pmGame is a perfect word pinhead.
Because that’s all you do is play games.
My point is clear, the two “PRESENT” votes change nothing.
My point was not ONE MEMBER of the HOUSE stood with the President.
Two “PRESENT” votes do not change that one iota.
You want to play little games because you’re a two bit punk with a big mouth who can’t debate me on the issues.
So instead you want to strut two “PRESENT” votes as if they changed anything.
They do not.
They did NOT stand with the president, which was the clearly articulated meaning of my comments today.
No ones interested in the spineless worms who vote present so as to be able to say they voted to their constituents.
They didn’t vote yay, so they didn’t stand with the President.
Period.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:47 pmYou do not. Not because you’re philosophically opposed to his position.
Ad hominems and strawmen. Please post any statement from me that proves your point. This should be good.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:48 pmWell I never said anything about ad hominems, punk.
You are a punk. And you came in to start crap, like you do on regular basis.
I could care less what you think punk.
Because your silly game doesn’t change my facts that no democrats stood by the President today.
The President was right.
And the congress is spineless and worthless. Much like you.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:50 pmfrom spencer Ackerman
Given that the Obama administration worked last night with House Democrats to soften the language of Rep. Mike Pence’s (R-Ind.) Iran resolution — which passed by a 405-1 margin today — it should come as no surprise that White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs just now told reporters, “we welcome the resolution.”
Your out Waynebro…
June 19th, 2009 at 6:51 pmI don’t need to post a statement punk.
The fact that you wanted to start shit with me over two “PRESENT” votes, pretending that made my position wrong, was enough.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:51 pmAnd here’s the link
http://washingtonindependent.com/48028/gibbs-welcomes-house-iran-resolution
Now who standing with who over your little made up tirade?
June 19th, 2009 at 6:51 pmCheney has done so much damage to our country. I would love to see him write a tell all book. Then he could have a book signing at Barnes and noble. I would pay for the book and wait in line for hours for the war criminal to sign it. I would do all that just so i could stand behind him and yell BOO!!! I apologize im just curious to see what a massive heart attack looks like when you dont have a heart. Cheney is responsible for thousands of people dying. One way or another i wish he would just go away.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:52 pmIt’s “you’re out” pinhead, and I already posted the President’s response to day, reiterating his position that we need a hands off approach.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:52 pmThey did NOT stand with the president, which was the clearly articulated meaning of my comments today.
I debunked your clearly hyperbolic statement, and you went personal. Next time, be a little more circumspect in your assertions. They too might be proven overblown, by missing a simple mistake.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:53 pmYou didn’t debunk anything.
What you did was try to start an argument over two “PRESENT” votes as if that changed anything, which it did not.
Present means no vote. It just says they were there for the vote and abstained from siding with either side.
So all the democrats who DID VOTE voted AGAINST the President’s wishes on abstinence from the very appearance of meddling in Iranian affairs.
All you’re seeing now is damage control by Gibbs.
The President said something quite different this morning however.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:56 pmThe fact that you wanted to start shit with me over two “PRESENT” votes, pretending that made my position wrong, was enough.
Still not sinking to your level, just pointing out how sometimes patronizing statements (like insulting other posters’ cognitive abilities) can blow up in your face. That you seem to think this is about policy is also hilarious.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:56 pmCheney would look good in a monocle,while carrying a swagger stick, sporting a Nazi armband.
Ye gods but smokers suck butts.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:58 pmhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_iran
June 19th, 2009 at 6:59 pmGo find some more hairs to split BartleBee.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:00 pmAckerman’s piece clearly shows that Obama’s people worked this issue over, and that’s how politics works. It’s not always an us versus them. Except for you, and it’s always someone you have to split hucking fairs with.
Piss off.
What’s hilarious is you’re ignorance in thinking two abstaining votes constitutes changes what I wrote.
They abstained with a “PRESENT” vote, hence every democrat in the house that voted voted against the President.
And what’s also hilarious is your trying to attack me and then pretending to be a saint.
You attack me constantly barfbag.
Don’t like my response, then keep your stupid inane tripe to yourself.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pmHere’s more Ackerman, not that you’d actually pay attention to anything but your own braying.
Nowhere in the resolution does it actively support any side or party in Iran, as the administration has refused to do, and every word about human rights is commensurate with what President Obama has said himself.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pmAnd of course, now that your little mistake has been revealed, you go on as if nothing happened. Except something did happen. You went on a tear about our reading and thinking skills, blissfully unaware that you had yourself made a glaring error. An apology is in order, don’t you think?
June 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pmWhat this is about is the President understanding that this “revolt” will most likely be crushed.
And when it is, if the US takes a position of support for Mousavi, then that undermines his attempts to rebuild relations with Ahmadinejad.
That was what I repeated over and over and over.
And you didn’t deal with that.
Instead you went for a cheap diversion, which is all you ever do.
Because you’re a cheap two bit hack.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:03 pmI made no mistake.
I may have worded my comment to include the abstaining votes, but it wouldn’t have changed the meaning of my position on iota.
Not one iota.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:05 pmYou attack me constantly barfbag.
Don’t like my response, then keep your stupid inane tripe to yourself
You seriously think you’re gonna’ shut me up with your schoolyard intimidation tactics?
Apologize to the board, and I’ll leave you alone – don’t, and I’ll post your mistake on every thread I see you on, to show others who they’re really dealing with.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:06 pmTwo democrats out of 233 choosing to abstain from a position doesn’t change my position one bit.
It’s just a two bit hack looking for an in so he can say “nuh uh Waynebro, ‘nuh uh”.
It’s a silly childs game kids play when they have nothing important to say.
Like I said, when you’ve got something to say on the issues, let me know.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:07 pmI may have worded my comment to include the abstaining votes, but it wouldn’t have changed the meaning of my position on iota.
It wasn’t that alone. It was your condescending tone, mixed with your glaring mistake. Dial back your ego, and apologize.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:08 pmI doubt ton of bricks dropped on your hollow head could shut your big fat mouth up scumbag.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:09 pmLike I said, when you’ve got something to say on the issues, let me know.
Your mistake, and your snide tone has now become an issue.
Care to discuss?
June 19th, 2009 at 7:10 pmAnd the only apology owed here is from you, trying to pretend that you “caught me” on something by pointing out that 2 out of 233 democrats voting “PRESENT” somehow changed my position which has been restated 3 dozen times today.
It changed nothing.
They didn’t vote.
But if you want an apology, ok.
I apologize for recognizing what dirtbag you are.
:)
There.
How’s that?
June 19th, 2009 at 7:11 pmSure.
With your mom.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:12 pmIsn`t that DICK cheney due for a hunting trip? maybe this time he should bring his fat ass daughter liz. Bush was the president but he was too damn stupid to understand what was going on. Dick ran the show. I am a liberal so i dont condone violence, I am just so angry with the right trying to defeat everything that our president is trying to do for country.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:12 pmThe 20%`ers and fox noise followers actually believe all of their bullsht. Wingnuts,trolls,and repugs our country is moving in a very positive direction. Please STFU and go back and sit down at the kiddie table. The adults are in charge now.
You piss off.
The only hairs I’m spitting are the ones holding your cranial lobes together.
President Obama said he stands by his position.
Gibbs attempts at damage control aside.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:16 pmLet’s keep score how many time Waynebro resorted to namecalling, and how many times I called him a name:
I doubt ton of bricks dropped on your hollow head could shut your big fat mouth up scumbag.
It’s just a two bit hack looking for an in so he can say “nuh uh Waynebro, ‘nuh uh”.
You attack me constantly barfbag.
I don’t need to post a statement punk.
Game is a perfect word pinhead.
Rather than deal with the issues, the three little stooges are here to attack me, and not the issues.
Moron.
Barf-fly and company, to make juvenile taunts without bothering to actually refute the issues.
8 insults to my zero. You lose.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:18 pmJune 19th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
June 19th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Sure.
With your mom.
You’ll need a shovel, and a strong stomach. But if you’re that into necrophilia, I don’t think she’ll mind.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:20 pmPosts 122, AND 123?
Someone’s getting desperate.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:22 pmDesperate?
This from a guy who thinks two “PRESENT” votes changes the fact that the house voted 405 to 1 today defying the President’s hands off approach to the elections in Iran?
Desperate was what you were, when you came in.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:24 pmLike I said, when you have some issues to deal with barfbag, you let me know.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:26 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
Like I said, when you have some issues to deal with barfbag, you let me know.
Well, how about your insufferably elitist tone, for starters? You seem progressive, yet you are quick to pull a sterotype out of your holster, whenever challenged. Why is that? You posted a few in our last exchange. Are strawmen your only defense?
June 19th, 2009 at 7:31 pmThey earned it.
Kiss and make up guys. I’ve looked at two threads so far. The first is overrun with juvenile one-liners. This one is mostly a fight between two regulars. It’s looking shabby around here.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:41 pmAnd lastly, waynebro, I also support Obama’s foreign policy choices. My issue was your tone, and the glaring mistake, that highlighted the inappropriateness of it, with other posters. But you never asked me my position, merely jumped to an erroneous conclusion, that I oppose Obama’s choices. That apparent degree of stereotypical thinking makes me wonder at your objectivity. Now see, I didn’t say your objectivity sucks; that is for you to show, on your own. I can only highlight those instances when your rhetoric conflicts with reality. You can attempt to reword your previous statement all you wish, but if you take that tone here again with posters, and I see it, I will rub your nose in your past, GLARING error, again and again. Are we clear?
June 19th, 2009 at 7:42 pmI’m off, Wiley.
But watching, ever watching…
June 19th, 2009 at 7:45 pmOh, I’m sure this isn’t “lastly”.
Second, there was no “glaring mistake”.
A glaring mistake would have been democrats voting against the bill that I neglected to mention.
Two democrats abstaining from the vote and voting “Present” so they can keep their voting roll call tally up to fool their constituents changed NOTHING.
Absolutely nothing.
And as for “tone”?
Your “tone” was to come in and try to insult me for ignoring the two abstaining votes, similar to my mocking whatshiface for saying “your” instead of “you’re”.
It was a technicality that didn’t change the meaning of what he said.
Just like your technicality didn’t change the meaning of what I said.
It was simply an attempt to divert from my position, and pull a “gotcha” on me because you’re still stinging from the last few asswhoopin’s I’ve given you over the years, each time you try starting something you can’t finish.
You’ve followed me around for a long, long long time, and each time you come in out of some desperate need to “get me”.
Which is why I have nothing but utter contempt and disgust for you. Because you’re a worm. A worm I wipe off the bottom of my shoe.
If you ever had a cognizant point to make, I might oblige you in reasonable discourse. But you never do. Instead you always come at me with this sort of nonsense. Which is why all you’ll get in return, is nonsense.
Because it’s all you’re worth.
You and the little dogs who follow you in.
June 19th, 2009 at 7:56 pmHey Proud, first of all TP doesn`t spin anything,that would be foxnoise. Magic eightball? Reagans looked to the stars,you are a typical wingnut. All fantasy. Cheneys approval ratings are going up? Where the fck else could they go? They were at ZERO. Even if DICKS numbers were going up, what would it matter? He is irrevalant allways was and allways will be.
June 19th, 2009 at 8:05 pmThree months from now you probably will be to ashamed to post here.President Obama has done good things for the people in this country. He has also given us a much better standing around the world that your hero bush destroyed. Why cant you wingnuts just except the fact that you lost. If you really love your country then stand behind your president. I would like to know one thing. When bush was in office the likes of hannity,orielly,beck,limpdick,and the rest of rightwing talking heads said if you criticize our president during a time of war then your a traitor. We are still fighting bushes wars and the right keeps criticizing Obama, so how is it different now?
Most people in here I offer a modicum of respect, even those to whom I disagree with strongly. But we have history barfbag.
You know it, and I know it.
And you and the three little rubes who follow you in to play “pile on” start this stuff with me every time.
You distract from whatever points or issues I’m making, and instead try to play silly games in an attempt to divert and play “gotcha”, albeit unsuccessfully each and every time thus far.
Like you did today. Go read the “tone” of your comments.
You tried pretending I made some “glaring mistake” and ignored my position and instead tried to pretend you caught me on something. Which you didn’t not. Nothing more than a mildly worded sentence that could have included the two “PRESENT” votes HAD THEY MADE A DIFFERENCE.
Which they did not.
You can play little angel all you want, but you know, and I know, what your true intent is and always has been, each and every time you start this crap.
And each and every time you’ll get back what you deserve.
Nonsense.
Because that’s all you bring to the table.
June 19th, 2009 at 8:06 pmProud Says:
Cheneys approval numbers are going up and King Obamas numbers are going down. Should be just about even in about 3 months. I will be very curious to see how TP spins those numbers. The Magic 8 ball is never wrong.
Apparently you used that Magic 8 Ball to come up with this comment.
June 19th, 2009 at 8:07 pmCheney’s numbers have no where to go but up.
We don’t have facilities for negative poll numbers.
As for the “Magic 8 Ball”, I assume you’re referring to your own noggin?
June 19th, 2009 at 8:10 pmUhm, either “rise” or “popularity.
June 19th, 2009 at 8:33 pmThey would have been even more unpopular in the past if they DROPPED to his level of UNpopularity, right?
Indeed, Cheney is unpopular. Moreover, Cheney is mentally ill and requires psychiatric help immediately.
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SCANDAL! SCANDAL! SCANDAL!
EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!
George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her.
“In her suit, Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point, when she commits suicide” (blog of drizzten).
“One of those ‘very leasts’ [was] George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of [then] president-elect George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell—Nevada Progressive Democratic Candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010).
McConnell is correct: Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death.
Bush is a racist hate criminal and hates black people (please feel free to see my “GEORGE W. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY” blog: andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com). (Schoedinger was an African-American woman.)
BEWARE: If the president of the United States hates one—for whatever reasons—he can continuously criminally stalk one to the point that one cannot get away from it, and one ultimately commits suicide in desperation to escape. He can murder people in this way.
Bush is getting away with his murder of Schoedinger—with no sheriff, prosecutor, or court willing to uphold the rule of law.
Bush’s method of murdering Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way.
Bush should confess, come out with the names of all of the people whom he murdered in the disgusting way he murdered Schoedinger, undergo execution, and accordingly find himself at the intersection where he would be free.
(There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. It exists very extensively in all major search engines. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her” or “Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death,” hit “Enter,” and find innumerable results.)
June 19th, 2009 at 9:31 pm_______________
Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
(a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”)
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
Wang111 Says:
STOP SPAMMING! No one cares tool.
June 19th, 2009 at 9:46 pmIf I had a wang that was one inch long, I wouldn’t yell it three times…!
June 19th, 2009 at 9:50 pm.
In some recent poll only about 25% identified as ‘Liberals’ or ‘Progressives’.
:)
absurd thought –
God of the Universe says
don’t protest tax increases
or support states’ rights
June 19th, 2009 at 10:14 pmYOU RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST…
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caption…
“Life has become so empty without Jeff Gannon….”
June 19th, 2009 at 11:15 pmFor the Star Trek fans among you (I hope there’s a few), just consider President Obama’s decision to be honoring the “Prime Directive”.
Waynebro, sounds correct to me. ;)
June 19th, 2009 at 11:27 pmLive long and prosper Jane.
June 19th, 2009 at 11:39 pmyou know why? USpace? Conservatives have done an awesome job demonizing liberals and progressives and smearing what was once an honored term, liberal. They have made liberal into a four-letter word. Check the people’s position on stances, not identification and you might see a different picture.
June 20th, 2009 at 1:54 amI hope everyone gets to see Bill Mahers closing monologue tonight. In it he declares the Democrats are the “New Republicans” and the Republicans are just insane.
Bill sees.
Many of us don’t want to, but its the truth. We don’t have a liberal party any more.
We have a center right party (democrats) and a far right nutjob party (republicans). The democrats vote today is just one in a long line of examples of that. I realize many in her will never listen to me, but maybe they will listen to Bill.
June 20th, 2009 at 2:21 amby_karizma Says:
Take your porn spamming to another site. You are getting most annoying.
June 20th, 2009 at 11:13 amSo a backlash is setting in on the Republicans for their constant smears. No mystery to why that is happening.
June 20th, 2009 at 11:59 amReally. And why are you always following me around karizma and posting that nonsense whenever you see me in a thread?
Quoting me now even?
This stalking things getting ridiculous.
And what the hell is “sesli chat”?
If you’ve got something to say, why don’t you just say it?
Or are you capable of a coherent thought?
June 20th, 2009 at 1:37 pmProudMoron spews his delusions again. Cheneys go UP from the basement. Obamas come down some from the stratosphere and you thinkk they are going to keep going til they meet in the middle? My GOD you are stupid. Your Magic 8 ball is as flawed as your cerebral cortex you MORON
June 20th, 2009 at 3:12 pmUSSpace
It is amazing enough how stupid and pathetic you are. The fact you are inordinatly proud of being so stupid is just astonishing. I love to laugh at really stupid people but YOU are so stupid it isnt funny. You are just sad
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