The VA has problems but, our vets do have health care and it has not bankrupted our economy. I recently took a good friend of mine to a few appointments at the Minneapolis VA hospital and I was very impressed. He arrived early and, rather than waiting for hours, he finished early. They even made an additional appointment and he was seen within a half-hour. During the time I was in the waiting rooms, I was very impressed at the efficiency compared to civilian clinics and hospitals.

I myself am on Medicare. It’s the best insurance I’ve ever had. I’ve never been turned away, despite clearly pre-existing conditions, and have never had a dispute over payment. Once again, it’s government health care that works.

In my experience, the VA and Medicare are the best arguments for government health care. Neither is perfect but the millions who have been well served are a more convincing argument than the hand full who have not.

Hey- looky there!!- there’s another one- old white dudes who lissen’a rush and FoKKKs all day……………………….

Second, Rasmussen had their numbers skewing towards McCain all through the election season until their final poll result fell in line with other polls.

Please show where he was skewing the polls until the final poll. Looks to me like the lead was pretty flat throughout the last month. McCain was within 3 points only one time during that time.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history

I’m SAYING you’re too TARDED to know how SCIENTIFIC POLLING WORKS… That’s what I’m SAYING… And SO FAR your *QUESTIONS* and your *POSTS* prove it.. ;)

I left for the night and I thought that maybe you would have the integrity to actually answer my simple question. I was clearly underestimating your imaturity. So I will ask again, a simple yes or no will do. You can keep throwing out the word scientific all you want in hopes that it will make your avoidance of the question acceptable, but it will not. It is a very simple question regarding the poll believe to be true.

Are you saying that we should not believe respondents when they say who they voted for in the last election, but believe the respondents on their answers to whether or not they agree with public healthcare?

obviously this Joe character is just a right wing troll trying to divide liberals with his feigned outrage

silly little whiner he is

never seen someone spend so much time on a web site they proclaim to hate

wow, just wow

that is, there is an implication that those who are/voted republican would, consequently and absolutely, not support heathcare reform.

This is a false assumption (though based on the republican concept that they all MUST march in line with the precise same ideology, or they are not republicans).

The voting results are inconsequential: just because someone voted for McCAin does NOT mean that they are against healthcare reform. This is empirically proveable to any person by going out and talking with a variety of people who voted republican.

As much as republican leadership marches lockstep, and dittohead followers do so as well, not every single person with conservative ideology is willing to tow the republican line in every and all aspects, much to the annoyance of the lockstep republicnas (who claim those others as not being “true republicans”, becasue they won’t follow along like good little sheeple).

We all know why they are used and how they can be used…

Wanting a public-funded system may vary depending on the question and how it was asked. I’d like to see the questions…

It all sounds great, but I know people who go to and work in the VA… Go ask the majority of folks using the VA system, our veterans, how they like the VA system–remember it is government-run health care.

But wait, you say. The VA is government-run health care and NOT government-run insurance. Right…

The issue isn’t “health care” vs. “insurance.” The issue is “government run.”

I am against it.

RUCeriousMaggot! asks Senator Hypocrite why he isn’t rejecting his “free, government health care.” That is JUST my POINT. Who would give up an “entitlement” once it is given? Everyone wants “free” health care because we won’t have to pay for it…

My first point is that the people (citizens who vote) gave it to Politicians by re-electing them after they “gave it to themselves.” People in Congress are treated differently than the rest because THEY designed it that way (e.g., they are not affected by laws/rules that the rest of us have to live by…See civil rights).

Education of the people to what is going on IN Washington will create a backlash against those that “work for themselves” rather than for the greater good.

However, the “greater good” is not “give things away.” I don’t believe in entitlements. Rather, I want people to “work” for what they get–otherwise, why is there any incentive to work at all?

Accurate scientific polls have shown for years that most Americans favor progressive policies–from universal health care to gun control to sex education. America is a liberal country and has always been so.

Because these facts are inconvenient for the right, they are ignored.

Rupert Murdoch in Pain

What a shithead this guy is.

Great find.

The bill almost sounds too good to be true. And you know it is good when, as in the article, the Party of NO strongly opposes it with this statement:

Republicans, who released a four-page outline of their health care alternative Wednesday, ripped the plan minutes after it was released.

“This plan is nothing less than a government takeover of health care, and families and small businesses who are already footing the bill for Washington’s reckless spending binge will not support it,” House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said.

Access to health care for all, and especially a plan this good passed with the dems in charge would be a certain death to the goppers.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

As common defense is NOT capitalized how did it gain the importance of 50% of our tax dollar? Shouldn’t we be paying more towards general Welfare, Tranquility and Justice for all ei: ACCESSIBLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL?

Well, that’s a self answering question isn’t it? There’s about 25% of humanoids here in America that really, really aren’t of sound mind.

We need to clone dbadass and purge the country of these throwbacks. Maybe clone some of them Schneider ladies too……

House Democratic chairmen on Friday released an 852-page health care draft that they said would ensure 95 percent of Americans are covered by insurance, although some details, including the cost, are still to be determined.
The bill includes a Medicare-like public health insurance option that would compete with private plans in a new national health insurance exchange.

The public plan that most Democrats envision would be offered alongside private plans through a new kind of insurance purchasing pool called an exchange. Individuals and small businesses would be able to buy coverage through exchanges, but eventually businesses of any size might be able to join.

I wish there were more details to be had. They tease that some Dems are getting bolder. I hope so!