The Republican National Committee has sent candles to lawmakers on Capitol Hill and released a web video claiming climate legislation will “tax our lights out.” Notes attached to the candles protest the Waxman-Markey American Clean Energy and Security Act (H.R. 2454), claiming that the bill’s cap on global warming pollution will make it impossible for Americans to use electricity:
If Democrats pass ‘Cap and Tax,’ this is all the energy American families and businesses will be able to afford. Don’t tax our lights out!
Watch the video:
In reality, the Congressional Budget Office found last Friday “that the net annual economy-wide cost of the cap-and-trade program in 2020 would be $22 billion — or about $175 per household” — less than the cost of a postage stamp a day. The CBO analysis, done at the request of Rep. Dave Camp (R-MI), found that the 23 million Americans “in the lowest income quintile — would see an average net benefit of about $40 in 2020.”
The point is that we need to be clear about who are the realists and who are the fantasists here. The realists are actually the climate activists, who understand that if you give people in a market economy the right incentives they will make big changes in their energy use and environmental impact. The fantasists are the burn-baby-burn crowd who hate the idea of using government for good, and therefore insist that doing the right thing is economically impossible.
“Tis a shame that he didn’t put your lights out.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 pmOh geez. ANOTHER straw man? Tired of teabags already?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:11 pmOh yeah? Well since President Obama took office, i lost 6 jobs, was evicted from 13 apartments, had 9 cars repossessed, and 8 of my cats cannibalized each other.
…Stop blaming the fact that your taxes haven’t increased a damn cent, you schmuck
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm.
http://change-congress.org/
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June 22nd, 2009 at 1:16 pmLOL. Do these guys really have nothing better to do? I’ve got a bunch of shrubs that need trimming if they’re that desperate for a project. And I’ve got a neighbor who doesn’t pick up after his St. Bernard if they need a new cause.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:16 pmJeff Bovine Says:
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Since Obama has taken office and taxed me beyond I belief, I had to electric service cut 4 times and cable TV cut 3 times, had my car repoed 2 twice, lost 3 credit cards, and my 5 cats quit eating.
Good to know that voodoo curse we put on you is working. As for the cats, they’re eating at my house. They just don’t like you.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:19 pmTHe GOP thinks they’re funny.
Problem is no one else does.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 pmOh give me a break. This is getting sad. You would think the dismal attendence at the tea-bag parties would tell these people these straw man arguments don’t work. But according to Faux News the tea-bagger parties were a smashing success. LOL! Yeah, a success to the righties! Meanwhile, young people don’t give a crap. You lose the youth, you are irrelevant.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 pmJust because the Republicans are in the dark they should not assume everyone else is. But at least they spelled all of the words right this time.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:22 pmYeah… consume everything in sight at the lowest possible cost and to hell with our kid’s futures.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:22 pmSame old trying to scare the masses talk from the GOP. I don’t think many people are listening anymore. We’ve already been scared by reality: job loss, lack of health insurance, fear of losing our homes. I think people are ready for a better way, both on health care and energy policy. The GOP has no ideas and will become increasingly irrelevent.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:23 pmThe DNC should send a flat-bed full of horse shit over to the RNC headquarters and drop it on their front doorstep to thank them for a generation’s worth of failed ideas, failed policies and for their unending devotion to waisting time, money and effort on utter nonsense. What has the RNC accomplished so far this year? Let’s see, meaningless resolutions, divisive rhetoric, obstruction on the Hill, the gleeful spread of lies and mis-information pertaining to much needed and overwhelmingly wanted progressive legislation, anonymous holds put on cabinet picks and all around cry-babiness.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:24 pmThis is what Pat Buchanan confab should have been on oops….I forgot this is to “intelligent” for him and the Repukelicans to understand.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:26 pmJeff Bovine Says:
Will you give ’snuggle bunnies’ a kiss and hug for me? I miss him the most.
Yeah, about that. He said he wants you to stop kissing and hugging him and get yourself a woman.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:26 pmSo are they going to have candle parties now! Why are they so dumb? Is there a problem with the water down south?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:27 pmI like joeyramonesmom.
I may even “like-like” her.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:28 pmIs the GOP capable of doing anyting but theatrics….. Oh I guess lying and hating american average citizens could also be part of their show.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 pmIf these clowns would actually try to find solutions to our problems instead of coming up with these stupid gimmicks, maybe people wouldn’t think they were such a**holes!
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 pmWow,
Isn’t this from the same party that brought monster deficits, huge increases in spending, and a wildly expensive unnecessary war.
So the only things we can spend money on is tax cuts?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:30 pmIf the RNC can come up with a more childish example of symbolism, they will – it appeals to their grass hoots.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:30 pmJeff Bovine Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:32 pmSince Obama has taken office and taxed me beyond I belief, I had to electric service cut 4 times and cable TV cut 3 times, had my car repoed 2 twice, lost 3 credit cards, and my 5 cats quit eating.
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Good to see you paying your fair share now. The rest of your fallacies sounds like the Bush economy?
I’m thinking the DNC should send all Rethuglicans some K Y jelly to help those morons pull their heads outta their arses!
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:34 pmGreat — lighting those Chinese-made candles with Mexican-made matches and putting them on their Hungarian-made tables instead of turning on their Taiwanese-made light bulbs will do only one thing — create more greenhouse gases that contribute to global warming.
Why does the GNOP hate American workers and the earth so much?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:38 pmAlready did my part, upgraded the heating in my house to Radiant Heaters, 100% efficiency, 400 watts per heater, one in each room that can be turned on or off.
Old heating bill – 200 a month
New Heating bill – 70 a month
In the dead of winter.
And I am installing solar panels (3) so the new bill will be about 35 a month.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:39 pmpeople wandering around in the dark would be wise to hold onto thier candles.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:40 pmIt’s hilarious that the party of Big Oil , the GNOP , believes they are credible in some way to be discussing energy proposals ; especially when considering their hatred of Jimmy Carter in favor of Ronnie Reagan , who was one of the worst presidents in US history , and who removed the solar panels that Carter had installed in the White House and didn’t try to wean us off of oil 3 decades ago……..
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:45 pmtaxing our lights out vs. coughing your lungs out…
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:46 pmThe Republican National Committee says, “If Democrats pass ‘Cap and Tax,’ this is all the energy American families and businesses will be able to afford.”
If only Bush and Cheney hadn’t created the the worst economic disaster since the “Great Depression”. Bush is the Enron President.
If only Bush and Cheney hadn’t invaded two countries in the Middle East, at a cost of almost $3 trillion to American taxpayers. That cost continues to grow.
If only Bush and Cheney hadn’t given Clinton’s $5 trillion budget surplus (our money) to the wealthiest 1% of Americans.
It’s going to take 100 years to repair the damage that Bush and Cheney caused to America.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:51 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
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I like joeyramonesmom.
I may even “like-like” her.
Aw shucks, I’m just doing my job as a novice trollslayer. You and the other masters have taught me well.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 pmRepubs- all gimmick, no substance.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:58 pmJeff Bovine Says:
Since Obama has taken office and taxed me beyond I belief, I had to electric service cut 4 times and cable TV cut 3 times, had my car repoed 2 twice, lost 3 credit cards, and my 5 cats quit eating.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
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And you still fail to take the hint to stop posting here.
How thick can you be??
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:01 pmR-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-epublicans arrrrrre R-r-r-r-r-r-r-etarrrrded!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:04 pmThe GOPers are the wind the candles are in.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:04 pmwell, it was good for the candle makers at least…
unless they went to the dollar store and bought chinese…
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 pmHi ralph
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:10 pmMaybe is spencersmom isn’t busy we can get a little double date deal going. Seems we will have to met in Chicago though or some place sort of halfway…
whether it’s teabags, candles, or tire-pressure guages, if it can be found at “The Dollar Store”, R’s will try to use it as a come-on to the credulous gomers who still vote for them.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:17 pmNow that’s funny. The GOP asks for a study and the results are the exact opposite of what they wanted.
Unfortunately because the MSM only lets Republics talk on their shows, they will convince some of us that what they are saying is true. Fortunately for us, they are convincing less people as the days go by.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:26 pmSince President Obama took Office, pirates looted 2 of my villages, 7 mines collapsed on me, 19 bankers kicked me in the junk, and dozens of starving feral cats are looking at me like Im dinner RIGHT NOW!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:28 pmdeebaser
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:32 pmWell if you own two villages it does seem a little wealth redistribution might be in order. Don’t tell me let me guess you hard work in the face of adversity self made man small business owner success warrants and demands the ownership of multiple villages. If those villagers just worked harder they two would have villages of their own…
unproved hypotheses?
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:33 pmCandles…technology Republicans can understand.
Sort of like tea bags.
Next they will be sending horses.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:34 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says:
How much does the Unioncratic Party and Jim Jones Soros dump into this Conservative smear “Stink Tank”? I see a college education doesn’t provide dignity nor does it cure a bad case of linear thinking.
Looking at the panel behind this garbage reminds me of that movie “Revenge of The Nerds”
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
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FreeMarketLiberal Says:
How much does the Unioncratic Party and Jim Jones Soros dump into this Conservative smear “Stink Tank”? I see a college education doesn’t provide dignity nor does it cure a bad case of linear thinking.
Looking at the panel behind this garbage reminds me of that movie “Revenge of The Nerds”
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
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June 22nd, 2009 at 2:45 pmLet’s try this out on other subjects:
“If they don’t believe in the unproved hypothesis of Supply-Side Economics, they need to be forced into believing. Got to love that economic justice.”
Hmmm… it’s got a certain ring to it. let’s try another:
If they don’t believe the unproved hypotheses of Democracy at the Point of a Gun, they need to be forced into believing. Got to love that economic justice.
Nice. Yeah, I’m starting to like this…
If they don’t believe the unproved hypotheses of Libertarian Deregulation, they need to be forced into believing. Got to love that economic justice.
Whadday say, watchpup? I think we gots us a winner!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:53 pmThat’ll show them damn union auto workers!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 pmJust goes to show there’s no FreeMarketLiberal lunch.
He’s had his eaten already.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:56 pmIf those candles came from Publicans, I’d do the old smell test, you can’t be sure where those tapers have been…just sayin…
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:57 pmdbadass Says:
unproved hypotheses?
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
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Isn’t it cute when science deniers try to talk science?
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:00 pmwatchdog:
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:12 pmBefore we start this dance yet again can you share with everyone your knowledge and training in the sciences so we can adjust the discussion up or down in accordance with your needs.
Thanks-
Well, ralph, maybe they will be satisfied with just sending the road apples. I don’t think the USPS takes horses.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:12 pmOh no the Osage apple discussion deja vu all over again…
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:13 pmand their base actually believes that they’ll someday end up in the GOP’s true base, you know those people whom we call elitists but Bush called his base…
and the GOP fosters that myth because it works for them when it comes to faux populism…
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pmwatchdog, did you actually research global warming or did Exxon and the GOP tell you it was a hoax?
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pmBe patient, UCSBKitty, it takes the pup a bit to page back through the talking point manual. Sooner or later he will come up with the paws that refreshes.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:25 pmI’ve never gotten a good answer from climate change deniers when I’ve posed the following question:
why is it that whenever someone disputes the science of global climate change, they ALWAYS turn out to be politically conservative?
It’s not really a partisan question. It’s science. it’s complex science, certainly, but it’s science. Yet I’ve never run across a liberal who disputes the science outright. Some have a healthy skepticism, of course, but none I’ve ever met treat it as an emotional investment like right-wingers do. Nor moderates, either. It’s just right-wingers.
Is it their anti-science bias?
Their resentment against common interest?
A reaction against some perceived “blame humans” thing?
Weird.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:26 pm“distributing candles” ????
Should the Democrats distribute condoms . . . starting with Vitter and Ensign . . . just sayin’ . . . .
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:34 pmWatchdog do you support/trust the US military?
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pmWatchdog did you support/trust the Bush Administration?
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pmUnited States Climate Action Partnership (USCAP) is a group of businesses and leading environmental organizations that have come together to call on the federal government to quickly enact strong national legislation to require significant reductions of greenhouse gas emissions. USCAP has issued a landmark set of principles and recommendations to underscore the urgent need for a policy framework on climate change.
USCAP Members Include:
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pmAlcoa
Alstom
Boston Scientific Corporation
BP America Inc.
Caterpillar Inc.
Chrysler LLC
ConocoPhillips
Deere & Company
The Dow Chemical Company
Duke Energy
DuPont
Environmental Defense Fund
Exelon Corporation
Ford Motor Company
FPL Group, Inc.
General Electric
General Motors Corp.
Johnson & Johnson
Natural Resources Defense Council
The Nature Conservancy
NRG Energy, Inc.
PepsiCo
Pew Center on Global Climate Change
PG&E Corporation
PNM Resources
Rio Tinto
Shell
Siemens Corporation
World Resources Institute
Au contraire… the ‘realists’ know that oil interests remain important for urban garbage incineration? Their narrow interests may be served by a huge red herring which goes something like, “Global pollution? Maybe!? But don’t tax us because of the rest, of the world!!” Smoke stacks may, desperately, need air filters?!
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 pmjUST KICK ALL THE REPUCKS OUT OF OFFICE AND START 3OR4 NEW PARTIES.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 pmWow.. first tea bags…now candles.. it sounds like they’re setting us up for a lovely evening.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:47 pmSCREW the environment as long as the idiots don’t have to pay higher taxes!
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:38 pmMaybe next time they can distribute brains as they are obviously lacking.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:23 amThank you..
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