Under Misspelled Banner, Buchanan And White Nationalist Brimelow Argue For English-Only Initiatives
Under Misspelled Banner, Buchanan And White Nationalist Brimelow Argue For English-Only Initiatives
On Saturday, Pat Buchanan hosted a conference to discuss how Republicans can regain a majority in America. During one discussion, panelists suggested supporting English-only initiatives as a prime way of attracting “working class white Democrats.” The discussion ridiculed Judge Sotomayor for the fact that she studied children’s classics to improve her grammar while attending college. The panelists also suggested that, without English as the official language, President Obama would force Americans to speak Spanish.
One salient feature of the event was the banner hanging over the English-only advocates. The word conference was spelled “Conferenece.” View it here:
The panelists pressed on with their anti-bilingualism diatribe without noting the irony of the obvious misspelling on the banner:
PAT BUCHANAN: Judge Sotomayor is up there at school in New York, she gets a scholarship to Princeton, she’s graduated with all these big honors and awards they said she never won. What’s she doing there in the summer? They said her adviser told her to read children’s classics so she can learn English better. How do you graduate number one in Princeton if you’re in the summer and you’re reading Rumpelstiltskin and Snow White? [laughter] [...]
PETER BRIMELOW: I really do recommend the language issue because you know that polls better than immigration and affirmative action. Eighty-five percent of Americans say they would favor official language policy. The wonderful thing about this issue if you look at what’s going to actually happen here is you’re going to find that the Obama administration is going to gradually institute institutional bilingualism in the country. It’s going to be required to speak Spanish in key positions, the police force and so on. This is a direct attack on the American working class because they are not going to be bilingual.
ThinkProgress attended the event and obtained audio of the panel. Listen here:
Mocking Sotomayor’s struggle to learn English has become a habit for Buchanan. On CSPAN a few weeks ago, Buchanan tried to undermine Sotomayor’s qualifications by saying she had read Pinocchio as a part of her “college work.” Buchanan was referencing a New York Times article, which talked about how hard Sotomayor had to work to graduate at the top of her class from Princeton. The article stated that she “spent summers reading children’s classics she had missed in a Spanish-speaking home and ‘re-teaching’ herself to write ‘proper English’ by reading elementary grammar books.” Sotomayor never read children’s books as part of her “college work” and the books consisted of classics such as “Huckleberry Finn” and “Pride and Prejudice” — not Snow White, as Buchanan contends.
Peter Brimelow, one of the panelists to the event, is the editor of Vdare.com. He has written extensively against immigration and has long advocated that the GOP must “appeal to its base: white Americans.” Brimelow has defended accusations that he writes and publishes white supremacist material by declaring his content to be merely “white nationalist.”
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Conservatives are irony-deficient.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:04 pmWell, it just goes to show, as with our trolls English is a second language to them.
And grammar and sentence structure isn’t a strong point with them.
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:07 pmI cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno’t mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:08 pmPAT BUCHANAN: Judge Sotomayor is up there at school in New York, she gets a scholarship to Princeton, she’s graduated with all these big honors and awards they said she never won.
Who said that Judge Sotomayor “never won” the awards from Princeton?
The only one I’ve ever heard say that was Pat Buchanan.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm…
this is nothing new to
readers of tp. our rw trolls
are very poor spellers.
:)
and they are proud of it!
:)
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:09 pmIronically, “grammar” is misspelled in the post.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:11 pmPat has always been a good KKKatholic.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:11 pmHey_There Says:
Ironically, “grammar” is misspelled in the post.
Pots meet the kettles!!!!!
hahahahaha
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:12 pmBuchanan has always been a racist.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:12 pmI just love Pat’s white men are an endangered species tour…What a nimrod.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:12 pmWhat does this sentence mean?
The discussion ridiculed Judge Sotomayor for the fact that she studied children’s classics to improve her grammer while attending college to threats.
Also, grammar is mis-spelled.
If TP needs a proof-reader, I’m available.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:13 pmMaybe it was Pat who mispelled conference…funny stuff
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 pmEveryone here needs to send an email to MSNBC to fire Pat Buchanan as a commentator.
As a white supremacist supporter and clearly racist, he has no place on a cable news network such as MSNBC.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:15 pmI love ThinkProgress but
I think that if you’re going to run a post mocking grammar and word choice, you should avoid misspellings and odd sytactical constructions.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 pmNow will MSNBC drop Buchanan as a commentator?
He’s always been a racist and a sexist, and MSNBC constantly gives him air time.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm…
tp, are you referring to
“kelsey grammer“?
:)
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:17 pmIgnorance isn’t a sole possession of the right wing, but they sure do prize it.
Why else would right wingers get so angry when you try to cure their ignorance?
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:17 pm…
“sytactical”?
:|
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 pmOFnF on BouncedCheck
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 pmIzn’t ther soemhting mroe imprtotnat tahn wehtr or knot paat bchuanan nos hwe to spel?
omaba adn hte demrocarts ar seling us out on haelhtcare az we “spaek”.
Shur, ws a sntense in “thnk fsat”, but it iz an ishue taht BTOH repugs adn demorcats argee – we nead haelthcare refrom.
If yuo are reeding tihs, yuo do not nead speling.
Why all wginuts and bakcwash all the time? Its jsut a distaracshun – teh flks yuo blog abut 24/7 raelly do not mater.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 pmPAT BUCHANAN: How do you graduate number one in Princeton if you’re in the summer and you’re reading Rumpelstiltskin and Snow White?
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I suspect anyone graduating “number one” in Princeton (or any other accredited school) probably does so by working his/her ass off, whether one reads “Rumpelstiltskin” or not. I would be willing to bet that whether Sotomayor was reading “Snow White” or “Pride and Prejudice”, that wasn’t all she was doing.
Question for Buchanan, though — How do you get taken seriously by anybody but the kool-aid drinking choir when you pose such inane scenarios? Answer — you don’t.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:19 pmAnother Concern Troll comes here with yet Another OffTopic Whine
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:19 pmPat’s just jealous because he knows he could never have graduated at the top of anything but his White Power class.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pmSORRY… “syntactical”
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm,,,
another joe,
can you spell “concern troll”?
….
how about “obsessive compulsive”?
;;;
(you’ve been posting the same comment
for the last two weeks. it’s boring.)
:|
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pmBut meaningful healthcare refort DOES matter, is supported by the VAST majority of American (and even at least have of repugs) and it is actually the DEMS that are going to sell us out!
Billions for banks and millions for bonuses. Billions for wall street, Billions for illegal wars where this nation continues to commit war crimes in your name – no change there.
Unlimited funds for the auto industry – even if they use it to outsource jobs to Mexico.
But YOU can’t get healthcare because will be too expensive – its OBAMA and the DEMOCRATS that are selling you out.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pmThanks for your concern, Another Joe. We appreciate you bringing your concerns to our attention.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pmboring = 24/7 distractions about thoroughly marginalized people (and double that if the post mocks spelling with misspellings)
But to each his own…
Boring is as boring does.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pmAnother Joe thinks TP should ONLY post healthcare issues
apparently Another Joe is just a Concern Troll, just here to whine and b!tch, while pretending TP doesn’t have other threads on his single issue
obviously a right winger trying to turn liberals against Obama
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pmTP, can we have the original Joe? The other one is a boringly poor substitute.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:24 pmSo instead of coming up with solutions or compromises to the REAL issues of the day…healthcare, economy, foreign policy…the “PARTY OF NO” is going to try to win with all of this “Anti” rhetoric.
I am hoping the GOP does not fall for this…but then again they voted Bush in office twice…
Why are they so afraid of Sotomayor!?!!?
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 pmif Another Joe was really disappointed with TP, he’d prove it by boycotting the site
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 pmDamn, if I were you, AJ, I’d look into securing another vendor for your internet service.
It must be a drag having to look at TP all day, with no option to visit other sites.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 pm…
“refort”?
…
poor spelling,
another troll.
:|
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:26 pmso instead of coming up with solutions to the real issues of the day, they are going to continue with their “anti” everything rhetoric.
I hope the GOP does not fall for this…but then again they voted for Bush TWICE…
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:27 pmAnother Joe Says:
boring = 24/7 distractions about thoroughly marginalized people (and double that if the post mocks spelling with misspellings)
But to each his own…
Boring is as boring does.
…
trolling is
as trolling does.
…
good luck with the spelling.
:)
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:27 pmif there was a god, right wingers like Another Joe would be out getting educated instead of here trying to split liberals with phony concern trolling on EVERY thread, no matter the topic
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 pmAnother Joe Says:
Boring is as boring does.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
No is forcing you to stay here. Start your own blog and post everything you’re missing on TP.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pmReading children’s books is a way many people who speak another language learn to use our sentence structure and idioms. I had a friend in college who was raised in a Spanish speaking home. She said she learned to speak English correctly by reading children’s books.
The modern day Republic party is so ignorant and hateful it’s really sad. My father who was a died in the wool Republic would have had a fit over what his party has become. He once told me (a confirmed leftist) that before I died, I would one day vote for a Republic. Funny thing….he voted for Bill Clinton before he died.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pmArn – unfortunately, not just the “blue dogs” because the rest could call them out on it.
Don’t kid yourself – there will probably NEVER be another issue that this many Americans agree on, at least not when it comes to public policy.
Don’t let obama and the dems get away with saying its the repugs fault or the budget’s fault.
And we cannot just blame some dems when the rest are actually just sitting on their hands an going along with a VERY unpopular plan that totally undermines what the vast majority of Americans wants.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pmProbably as sure as you were that Iraq had WMDs
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm“I’ve been to 57 states and have 2 more to go to.”
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pmjoe – spelling is trivial, but you want to make a big deal out of it.
And ignore important issues.
And then sit there like a smug little smirking chimp proclaiming “SEE!” to the choir of monkeys that pound on their keyboard about banality.
Yup, boring is what boring does.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:33 pmMeanwhile, the topic is Pat Buchanan’s racism and support for racist groups
no matter what the Another Joe the right wing concern troll wants it to be
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:34 pmanonymouse,
enjoy.
:)
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:34 pmPETER BRIMELOW: The wonderful thing about this issue if you look at what’s going to actually happen here is you’re going to find that the Obama administration is going to gradually institute institutional bilingualism in the country. It’s going to be required to speak Spanish in key positions, the police force and so on.
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More fear-mongering by the right (if you can call a threat of having to learn Spanish something to be frightened of).
In the first place, I doubt President Obama would be able to mandate institutional bilingualism on a national level, even if he wanted to. The only real effective way of accomplishing this would be to have Spanish declared an “official” language (sort of like French in Canada). That could be problematic, since we haven’t even declared English an “official” language. Sheesh — and I thought the paranoia about how he allegedly wants to take away everybody’s guns was loony…
And in the second place, many police officers, firefighters, EMT personnel, and other public safety workers in areas with even a modest Spanish-speaking segment have managed to deal with the language barrier — through learning key phrases in Spanish (such as “halt!”, “Police!”, or “you’re under arrest!”) or having interpreters readily available. Each municipality sets their own guidelines based on community need. Communities with no Spanish-speaking population, but perhaps a German, Hmong, or Serbian population adjust their public safety departments accordingly. This is already going on. I’m not afraid of it. Why are these blowhards?
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:34 pmImagine if life had more than just Another Joe’s 2 (and only 2 choices):
whine 24/7 about one issue, or be totally unconcerned about it
I guess he is one of those slow types that can’t multitask
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:35 pmSpeaking of Republicans, let’s check out a brief history of Republicans and Iran. In 1953, Republican President Eisenhower gave the go-ahead to our CIA to help the Brits overthrow the democracy in Iran and put in the vile dictator Shah. It took the Iranian people twenty-six long years to get rid of the Shah. After the Iranian Revolution of 1979, what was the Republican response. First of course, there was the treasonous arms-for-hostages deal, engineered by Reagan aides, so that they could illegally funnel millions of dollars to the thuggish Contras in Nicargua, who were trying to destroy the progressive new government there.
Later, Reagan gave WMDs (poison gas) to dictator Saddam of Iraq and egged him on to start a vicious war against Iran. Reagan hoped to destroy the Iranian Revolution and to bring back a dictator who would ensure that we got cheap oil.
Bush in the 21st century, demonized the Iranian government as part of the so-called “axis of evil.” The actual axis of evil under Bush ran from the White House to the CIA to the Defense Dept.
Now big-mouthed hypocritical Republicans are demanding that President Obama be more forceful in defense of free elections in Iran. Funny, these same Republicans were silent as mice when the GOP was hacking, rigging, fixing, Dielbolding and stealing elections in 2000, 2002 and 2002…
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:36 pmMaybe WMD was a typo and it should have been WTF?!?!?!?!
Maybe you are right – spelling is important and the war crimes and crimes against humanity were all just an honest mistake. Perhaps Iraq really had:
W3C
W4WG
WAG
WAIS
WAITS
WAN
WAOSS
WAP
WATS
WBT
WCS
WDM
WELL
WFW
WIA
WI-FI
WIFI
No wonder dur chimpfurher couldn’t find any WMD when he looked all over the white house for the national press (eliciting great laughter and applause from those present with “r’s” and “d’s” after their names).
It was all a misspelling…
WIKI
Not an acronym – the word “quick” in Hawaiian. Used for name of: web site which can be directly edited by any user, without special software. From the WekaWiki project.
WIMP Windows, Icons, Menus, Pointers or Windows-Icons-Menus-Pointer or WIndows Media Player or Wireless Implanted Magnetic-resonance Probe (healthcare)
WinHEC Windows Hardware Engineering Conference
WINS Windows Internet Name Service
WINSOCK Windows Socket
WINTEL Windows / Intel
WIP Work In Progress
WLS
Wireless Location Services
WMF
Windows Metafile (vector file format for the PC)
WMI Windows Management Instrumentation
WML Wireless Markup Language
WMTS
Wireless Modem Termination System
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:36 pmWORM Write Once – Read Many
WRED Wrong Reading Emulsion Down
WREU Wrong Reading Emulsion Up
WTLS Wireless Transport Level Security
WTOR Write To Operator with Reply
WWAN Wireless Wide Area Network
WWW World Wide Web
WYSIWYG What You See Is What You Get
and WE are free to point and laugh at you
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:36 pmBuchanan better never refer to “laissez faire” in a discussion of economic policy.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:37 pmJeff Bovine Says:
Flaged.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:37 pmWell, we appreciate your efforts to liven up our little site, here, AJ. I only hope it doesn’t get soooo boring that you stop coming here to tell us what we should be concerned with.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:37 pmlittle tommy, keyboarding is a psychomotor skill that is learned through careful practice and combinations of different keystrokes.
Eventually the fingers learn their place, first letter by letter, then short word by word, and then short phrases. This is called “chaining”
It is usually taught with careful repetitions of carefully selected text.
Eventually, little tommy, YOU have to learn how to put some thought into what one keys! Of course, I am sure that mommy limits the amount of time you get to spend on the computer each day.
So make the most of it while you can, make mountains out of mole hills and blog on about the truly meaningless.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 pmaww, looks like I hurt little AJ’s feelings when I pointed out that he is here to disrupt and whine like little right wingers do
poor little guy, I guess you should boycott TP because of all of us big mean liberals that pick on you for being an a$$
someone call whine wun wun, this one needs a waaaambulance
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pmbe concerned with “grammar” vrs “grammer” if you like. Or perhaps how to spell conference.
If those are the salient issues of the day, some will find that a meaingful topic.
After all, there is a great deal that most Americans DO care about and the MSM and some of the bloggosphere consistently demonstrates that it is not willing to openly and honestly discuss it.
Someone is getting very desperate for distractions when they blog about a sign with a misspelled word that pat buchanan stood under when someone snapped a photo.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pmAnother Joe Says:
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Constantly nailing yourself to the cross is boring.
Flag this idiot.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pmWhether a person climbs trees and screams to the world that “the public option needs to go away” or quietly kills it in a back room matters not one wit.
They are both going against the will of the vast majority of Americans.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pmI would too, if I had your “physique”
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pmseconded, OFnF in effect. do we have a third?
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:45 pmAnother Joe Says:
little tommy, keyboarding is a psychomotor skill that is learned through careful practice and combinations of different keystrokes.
Eventually the fingers learn their place, first letter by letter, then short word by word, and then short phrases. This is called “chaining”
It is usually taught with careful repetitions of carefully selected text.
Eventually, little tommy, YOU have to learn how to put some thought into what one keys! Of course, I am sure that mommy limits the amount of time you get to spend on the computer each day.
So make the most of it while you can, make mountains out of mole hills and blog on about the truly meaningless.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
…
another troll,
your spelling is improving.
:)
nothing about healthcare?
:|
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:45 pm… oh my gawd… a sign painter’s worst nightmare…
or, ‘just rewards’ if you’re a good progressive sign painter…
(or sign maker, as in that case… computer cut vinyl lettering…)
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pmI’d love to stick around and help ya beat up on Another Whiner, but I got to go to a meeting (gotta explain the web technology to the suits again)
back in a couple of hours
peace
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pmAnother Joe Says:
Whether a person climbs trees and screams to the world that “the public option needs to go away” or quietly kills it in a back room matters not one wit.
They are both going against the will of the vast majority of Americans.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
…
and that has what to
do with “healthcare”?
:|
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pmAnother Joe:
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:48 pmIf it hasn’t already been noted when you cut and paste you should cite the source.
thanks-
Jeff Bovine Says:
RantingTommy Says:
I would too, if I had your “physique”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I am a perfect example of human micro-evolution. In just short 8 short months I went from six-pack abs to a 2 liter. Conservatives do not believe in being slaves to our body. Dr. Savage taught me/us this.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
…
another troll,
here is a healthcare
issue that you should
address. if you really care.
:|
:)
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:49 pmdbadass Says:
Another Joe:
If it hasn’t already been noted when you cut and paste you should cite the source.
thanks-
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
…
busted!
:|
:\
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pmI don’t remember Buchanon ever making fun of Bush’s struggles with the English language. I wonder why?
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm…
btw, tp fixed their typo.
grammer = grammar.
…
trolls are too “proud” to do that.
:)
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:53 pmJeff Bovine Says:
joe cantwell Says:
here is a healthcare
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Conservatives believe health care should only be for the elite of a nation. Survival of the fittest and richest!
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
…
good point.
maybe you and another troll
can have a “conferenece”
and discuss it.
:)
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:56 pmRight-wing Republicans are terrible at math. 20% is not a vast majority.
GOVT. HEALTH PLAN TO COMPETE WITH PRIVATE INSURERS
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 pmFavor 72%
Oppose 20%
Another sad attempt to by good ol’ boy Pat to “dumb-down” Americans. Who will be able to translate international terrorist threats?
Just a quick snapshot of Christian Fundamentalist Terrorist:
Gov Perry = Secessionist
Gov Palin = Less money is good?
Rep. Cynthia Davis = Poor kids don’t need to eat?
Rep. Mark Kirk = Told China not to trust America’s books?
Pat Buchanan = English only for America?
Bachmann = The name just says it all for her?
Gov Sanford = Forced to take Federal dollars to help his ailing state.
All Repukelicans = “No” to “public option health coverage” but “yes” to “privatize social health care coverage?”
Inhofe = “No” to everything unless it’s covered in a white hood.
The partial list of the “alternative reality lunatics” who are hellbent on toatlly destroying America.
And there worried about President Obama??
PS Is just me but I think Perry wants to stick his tiny thumb in Palins mouth?
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm…
mark koldys = johnny dollar?
???
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:00 pmDont these sick bastards have any other ideas? I guess when you’re the party of god (as Tom DeLay called the Repignofascists at the 2000 convention) you dont have to worry much.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:01 pmdbadass Says:
You might have said “sight the source” so Another Smoe could understand it.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:01 pm… she gets a scholarship to Princeton, she’s graduated with all these big honors and awards they said she never won.
huh? whaaa??? WHO said? who wouldn’t claim honors and awards?
what IS he talking about…?!?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:02 pmEnglish only initiative? someone better clue in the residents of alabama, mississippi, louisiana, texas, georgia…last time i checked, they were butchering the english language not “speaking” it
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:03 pmPachydiplax de St. Augustine Says:
dbadass Says:
You might have said “sight the source” so Another Smoe could understand it.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:01 pm
…
i’m going to miss that guy.
be brought fun to the post.
and he tried so hard.
yes, i’m going to miss him.
:|
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:03 pmBrimelow has defended accusations that he writes and publishes white supremacist material by declaring his content to be merely “white nationalist.”
A classic distinction without a difference. Sometimes referred to as “turd polishing.”
Brimelow hates anyone who is not white and a supremacist Republican who thinks just like him. Period.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 pmJeff Bovine Says:
RantingTommy Says:
Probably as sure as you were that Iraq had WMDs
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
By definition, Saddam was a WMD.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm============
…and by facts and proved, Cheney was and still is a WMD and a American Terrorist.
Ah, Pat. Not just the banner.
They said her adviser told her to read children’s classics so she can learn English better.
Using “can” throws off verb tense for the sentence and “learn English better” is awkward, terrible English.
He followed up with “Thems brown folks don’t can’t talk real good.”
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:07 pmThe final, desperate fallback position of the pathetic Bush apologists. I guess they envision Saddam in the final scene of Dr. Strangelove.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:13 pmWhy don’t right-wing extremists such as Buchanan stop the charade and just go join a Klan rally.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:13 pmWe all know he really wants to…
Oops! I was wrong. This is the final, desperate fallback position of the pathetic Bush apologists.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:15 pmPoor Jeff is firmly rooted in the alternate reality.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 pmBut, now that I think about it, maybe Bush was a liberal. He did set up a national system of socialized health care…IN IRAQ!
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:23 pmFolks, it’s pretty clear that jeff Bovine is a parody troll. Not an especially clever one, but definitely parodying the wingnuts.
Trouble is, how do you parody someone who already is a self-parody?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:25 pmHere’s our sad Bovine Boy’s theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fc6uUAI0mo&feature=fvst
Poor Jeffy always moos indigo.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:25 pmYes, Jeff, we know all about it. Charles Krauthammer spilled the beans about the alternate reality created in order to control you poor deluded Republican sheeple.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:28 pmJeff Bovine Says:
By definition, Saddam was a WMD.
No, Chuck Norris is a WMD. Saddam was a patsy.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:30 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Folks, it’s pretty clear that jeff Bovine is a parody troll. Not an especially clever one, but definitely parodying the wingnuts.
Trouble is, how do you parody someone who already is a self-parody?
Badly?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:32 pmI disagree. I don’t think any parody troll could think up something this convoluted and deluded.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:36 pmshoeless Says:
Jeff Bovine Says:
——————————————————————————–
Conservatism is indeed the alternate reality to the real reality that isn’t really real because the Hollywood MSM liberal elites created it.
I disagree. I don’t think any parody troll could think up something this convoluted and deluded.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
…
he is a forty year old virgin.
any thing’s possible.
:|
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:39 pmCan Jeffy Bovine’s comments be described as “udder” disaster?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:40 pmJeff Bovine Says:
Luis Chapulin M Says:
No, Chuck Norris is a WMD.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I wish Norris starred in Gladiator instead of that lib Russell Crowe.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
***
gladiators don’t wear mullets.
:)
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:42 pmJeff Bovine Says:
Virginity is a Conservative concept. Hence, Jesus was a Conservative.
…
so was onan.
:|
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:42 pmJeff Bovine Says:
Great, now libs are denigrating the millions of fine Americans with mullets. Another low.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
…
they are?
:|
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:44 pmToo bad all of you wingnuts don’t follow that concept religiously. The world would be such a better place.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:46 pmFish can swim
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:48 pmMullets are fish
Therefore trolls resemble grilled cheese sandwiches.
Zooey Says:
Constantly nailing yourself to the cross is boring.
Flag this idiot.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
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I beg to differ. Nailing oneself to the cross is more difficult than you’d expect – particularly after the first hand is nailed up.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:49 pmPachydiplax de St. Augustine Says:
Can Jeffy Bovine’s comments be described as “udder” disaster?
Why, because they read a bit COWardly?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:49 pmA concept for sure, thinking about Bristol Palin.
Jesus was as conservative as Larry Craig and Mark Foley.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:49 pmRepublicans =
Epic.
Fail.
Republicans are F * * K T A R D S!
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:50 pmLuis Chapulin M Says:
Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says:
Can Jeffy Bovine’s comments be described as “udder” disaster?
Why, because they read a bit COWardly?
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
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Really? I found them rather MOOving.
Though they do tend to STEER the discussion off on a tangent.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:50 pmjoe cantwell Says:
Jeff Bovine Says:
Great, now libs are denigrating the millions of fine Americans with mullets. Another low.
they are?
I’ll volunteer to.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:52 pmIf they didn’t insist on milking every talking point, they cud make more sense.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:52 pmRACISTS UNITE!!!!!
/snark
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:52 pm.;..
why did jeffy link his
name to a picture of
nicholas cage?
is he a fan of “moonstruck“?
???
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:53 pmI bet Jeffy’s favorite movie is Brokeback Mountain.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:53 pmmore appropriate, Annie…RACISTS UNTIE!
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm#89
According to News Hounds, they are one and the same person.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 pmJeff Bovine Says:
Great, now libs are denigrating the millions of fine Americans with mullets. Another low.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
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That’s really not possible. Americans with mullets cannot be “fine.” Therefore, it is not possible to denigrate them any further than they already are.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 pmGuys, ignore the parody troll.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 pmAh, the Republican Party, continuing to show the power of “white man’s affirmative action.”
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 pmNext Jeffy will tell us his ancestors came here in steerage.
He doesn’t realize that his ilk is headed for the last roundup.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:57 pmPurple State Says:
Guys, ignore the parody troll.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
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i love him.
he pushes people over to our side.
you can’t buy help like that.
:)
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:58 pmIt occured to me the other night that our concern trolls like Joe and Hanshiro sound very familiar. They say the usual:
-Obama is a horrible, awful man who didn’t do {insert problem here}
-Obama didn’t grant my every wish in the whole five months he’s been in office!
-You people are so {insert insult} for believing Obama, he preaches false hope etc.
Anyone else think that sounds like oh I don’t know, Rush Limbaugh, the G(n)OP, John Voight?
Whining + no new ideas = The Party of NO! Looks like the concern trolls need to switch parties…
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:59 pmPerhaps if these illiterates had read Snow White & other classics, they might know how to spell.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 pmAnd the racism in their comments is repugnant.
Hi FreeMarketLiberal:
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:46 pmAre you seeking some attention that you are posting this weirdness everywhere?
Irony………..so………..thick………choking……..Gaaaa(*&#*($&
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:53 pmIf Jesus were alive today, Pat Buchanan would tell him to get a haircut and a real job and stop being a leech on the economy. That is if he didn’t completely dismiss him for being a liberal hippie, preaching all that lovey crap and organizing activists. That is if he didn’t call him a terrorist because of his darker skin and full-on beard and organizing activists.
Jesus would have it rough from today’s Repubs.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:57 pmkdgamergirl Says:
It occured to me the other night that our concern trolls like Joe and Hanshiro sound very familiar. They say the usual:
The form letter I really enjoy is the ones that start out:
“Golly, I don’t know anything about all them politics, but I have an open mind and one day decided to weigh all of the evidence from both sides equally. In my open-minded opinion, it seems obvious to me that Obama was born in Keny and sent to the U.S. as a sleeper mole for the Weather Underground to turn us all into Muslims…”
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FreeMarketLiberal Says:
How much does the Unioncratic Party and Jim Jones Soros dump into this Conservative smear “Stink Tank”?
Learn to use the Interwebs if you want information.
Nobody here is disputing that the slant of this site is to “smear” conservatives, typically through using their own words and occasionally some publicly available facts.
If you mean “smear” in the sense of “leave them as a greasy _____ by the side of the road” that is.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:58 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
How much does the Unioncratic Party and Jim Jones Soros dump into this Conservative smear “Stink Tank”? I see a college education doesn’t provide dignity nor does it cure a bad case of linear thinking.
Looking at the panel behind this garbage reminds me of that movie “Revenge of The Nerds”
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Interesting. This poster spews insults but provides no evidence to back them up. I can only assume he has some bizarre need to hurl invective and doesn’t feel the need for any of it to make sense.
“Unioncratic Party”? I suppose the Democratic Party has shown far more support for labor unions (and laborers in general) than the Republican Party has, but why is this an insult?
“Jim Jones Soros”? I don’t see the connection between George Soros and Jim Jones — perhaps someone can help me out here? It appears to be just random baseless conflation.
A “Conservative smear Stink Tank”? Um…I believe a “smear” is when one tells (or suggests) lies about an opponent. While I admit TP sometimes twists things unnecessarily in their headlines, they’re pretty good about sticking to the truth and quoting people verbatim.
And then there are the usual insults about the intelligence of the TP staff, although I admit the slam about their physical appearance is new.
I’m always amazed at people who come here and whine about the site. It’s a site dedicated to the progressive point of view — a perspective TP has never tried to hide (unlike media who claim to be “fair and balanced” while pushing an ideological agenda).
At least some trolls attempt to make some kind of lame point about the topic of the thread. Some conservative posters make intelligent points (but I don’t call those posters trolls). This one just feels obligated to take a crap and leave, which surely puts him at the bottom of the dungheap.
Why do they do this? Is it for a cheap thrill? Are they getting paid to do this? Do they truly not know how to Google for sites that reflect their kind of thinking? It truly makes one marvel at how some people truly need to get a life.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:06 pmI skipped all the other posts, so if I’m a repeat (which I’m sure I am) I apologize.
I just wanted to make note of the incredible irony, and mention that an incredible learning opportunity has been lost by the decision of someone to not stand up and tell these people that they may be more effective in their arguments if they themselves learned to speak English before demanding that everyone else do the same.
But then, it would no doubt have fallen on deaf ears. Alas.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:15 pmDon’t make a fuss over the spelling or they will try to have the way THEY spelled it put in all the dictionaries, because, you know, they are always right and they will find some way for the middle and poor class tax payers to pay for the change.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:23 pmUnbelievable…
When old Pat shows up for his TV Gig dressed in a white hood and holding a cross, will MSNBC finally get rid of him?
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:08 pmBrimelow has defended accusations that he writes and publishes white supremacist material by declaring his content to be merely “white nationalist.”
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“You say toh-MAY-toh, I say toh-MAH-toh…” If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks like a duck — guess what, folks??? It’s probably a duck.
Puh-leeeeeeeeze…who does Brimelow really think he’s fooling? He’s free to call his material whatever he likes, of course — he can call it a head of lettuce for all that I care — but it makes no real difference in the end since he’s still talking about the same thing. As Vice President Cheney once said, “you can put lipstick on a pig — but it’s still a pig.” Changing the name of a thing in order to make it sound like something different still doesn’t change the fundamental essence of the thing one iota. Brimelow’s claim that he’s a “white nationalist” rather than a “white supremacist” is nothing more than a convenient, self-serving euphemism on his part. It doesn’t change the fact that he’s a racist any more than a combat general referring to civilian deaths in wartime as “collateral damage” makes said civilians any less human or himself any less responsible for their deaths. It’s just an exercise in self-justification…nothing more.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:21 pmIt’s a form of ebonics for ignorant racists.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pmThe thing speaks for itself. There is something prophetic about it.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:33 pmI always get a kick out of those Texans who complain about “furriners” who can’t speak English. We have a constant rumble of complaints from parents because Johnny and Susie Bonehead can’t understand what their TA is saying during lecture. Then when you ask Johnny or Susie have they have to say about the situation, it turns out that you practically need a translator to get their responses. The East Texans are the worst but there are others as well. I remember listening to one good ol’ boy TA from North Texas talking about “higher” in lecture and it was a good month before I figured out that he was referring to the stuff that grows out of a mammal’s skin.
And don’t even get me started on Mainiacs.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:41 pmWhy isn’t Pat praising Judge Sotoma for her tenacity and dedication? One would think she’d be the poster child for the English-only crowd.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:22 pmThis just infuriates me. These people love to scream about how inclusive they are, yet they have the audacity to lecture on how to lure white and yellow people? My husband, who is Chinese, said, “What Asian person in their right mind is going to join a party in which its leaders refer to them as ‘yellow people’?”
Good God.
I’m sick and tired of seeing Pat on MSNBC, too. I haven’t seen him on Hardball in a while. Have they finally realized what a f^^king pig he is?
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:50 pmRacism is ugly no matter the person expressing it. Pat Buchanan is always making these hate-filled racist remarks. Amazing that Fox still gives him a program where he can blab his hatred, People like Pat Buchanan are so great in carrying on racism. Sad that he misunderstands his Catholicism so much that he feels he is excused from even handed behavior on the race issue. But alas, his long history of overt racism is there for all to see.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:14 amIt is not racism, but reality. If an American goes to a foreign country, they take their language dictionary for whatever country they are in or their hand held translator. The people coming to America from Mexico, South America, Central America or expect America to adjust to them instead of them adjusting to America. This should be an English first country and ANYONE that wants to live, work and stay here should be required to learn and speak English. We should not have to change forms and procedures those who refuse to learn. In fact they should not even be allowed to apply for citizenship until they can speak and read English.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 amIt is not racism, but reality. If an American goes to a foreign country, they take their language dictionary for whatever country they are in or their hand held translator. The people coming to America from Mexico, South America, Central America or expect America to adjust to them instead of them adjusting to America. This should be an English first country and ANYONE that wants to live, work and stay here should be required to learn and speak English. We should not have to change forms and procedures those who refuse to learn. In fact they should not even be allowed to apply for citizenship until they can speak and read English. — LVDragonLady
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With all due respect, LVDL…do you have any idea how hard it is to learn English? English is considerably more difficult to learn than a good many other languages — largely due to the fact that modern English incorporates words borrowed from other languages. English grammar is very inconsistent when it comes to such things as plurals, pronunciation, and verb tenses. As an example, consider the following English words — bough, cough, enough, though, and through. Each one uses the same basic dipthong of “o-u-g-h”…and yet each one of these words is pronounced differently. If memory serves (and it usually does), this is something you quite simply don’t see in Spanish — or indeed, in many other languages — where the same set of letters is always pronounced exactly the same way. Think this might make it harder for someone? I would.
It also takes a long time for any person learning a second language to develop true fluency since most native speakers rely much more than even they themselves realize on slang, idiom, and colloquialism — and these almost never translate well from one language to another, since they often mean something different than what the words literally imply. For that matter, let’s talk about legalese — a language which is hard enough even for native English speakers to understand! Can you imagine how difficult it might be trying to decipher something as confusing as that when English is not your native language — especially when your paperback Whatever-To-English dictionary doesn’t even include many of the more specialized terms? Did that thought ever occur to you?
It’s also a well-established fact that young people generally find it much easier to learn a new language than older people do. This is at least one of the reason — if not the reason — why you see many immigrant families with parents and/or grandparents who don’t speak English well (if at all) while the first generation of children born here usually don’t have trouble speaking English.
Finally, if you really believe that most Americans who travel outside the US really make much of an effort to speak other languages, I suggest you get that thought out of your head right now. The stereotype of the “Ugly American” exists for a reason…one of those reasons being the fact that a good many Americans still don’t make much effort to speak the language of the countries they’re visiting — with or without pocket translators — and still do expect other people to accommodate them. Fortunately for them, English is by now spoken in many parts of the world — in part because people in those countries have made an effort to learn another language, something which the majority of Americans have not done. Unfortunately, the fact that English is spoken in many parts of the world has also encouraged many Americans to be lazy when it comes to traveling overseas — and it’s not a point in our favor.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm“What kind of music do you play here, anyway?”
“Why we got both kinds, reactionary and wingnut.”
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pmThank you..
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Spanish is no threat to English-speakers, so xenophobia is misguided.
The age-old pesky U.S.-Mexico border problem has taxed the resources of both countries, led to long lists of injustices, and appears to be heading only for worse troubles in the future. Guess what? The border problem can never be solved. Why? Because the border IS the problem! It’s time for a paradigm change.
Never fear, a satisfying, comprehensive solution is within reach: the Megamerge Dissolution Solution. Simply dissolve the border along with the failed Mexican government, and megamerge the two countries under U.S. law, with mass free 2-way migration eventually equalizing the development and opportunities permanently, with justice and without racism, and without threatening U.S. sovereignty or basic principles.
To read the details, Google “Megamerge Dissolution Solution”.
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June 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pmIt’s amazing to see this reprobate Buchanan, without let or hindrance, spew his hatred for any and everybody who are no like him, even on the so-branded “Liberal MSNBC”. I can only hope this piece of sh it, and the others of his ilk, will not be long for this sphere.
June 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pmHave I mentioned lately how much I hate these Repuglicons?
Inspired by Mike Malloy.
June 29th, 2009 at 2:41 pm