Sanford Predicts Stimulus Will Result In ‘A Thing Called Slavery’
Sanford Predicts Stimulus Will Result In ‘A Thing Called Slavery’
Speaking to the Lexington County GOP last week, Gov. Mark Sanford (R-SC) lamented his defeat in his quest to reject American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funds for schools, the unemployed, and for job creation and retention. On June 4, the South Carolina Supreme Court ordered Sanford to accept the $700 million in stimulus funds he had opposed.
To defend his grandstanding, Sanford has previously lashed out at his critics, saying it would be tantamount to “fiscal child abuse” to accept the federal money. He has also compared President Obama to Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe, because of his fiscal policies. But now Sanford is taking his hyperbolic rhetoric to another level, claiming that the stimulus will result in “a thing called slavery”:
SANFORD: A guy from the northeast did a study on generational accounting. Generational accounting says what is the imputed tax for a young person born in America today? And remarkably, that number is 82, which at all ain’t that far from a thing called slavery. If you’re giving away 82% of every dollar you earn every day and every week and every month, A, it’s not a good deal, B, it collapses the capitalistic system because nobody has any initiative to work at that point, and C, it really isn’t that far from slavery. And what the Republic was originally set up was on the notion that was just talked about a moment ago, which is this larger notion of freedom. And economic freedom is a part of the larger notion of freedom.
Watch it:
Sanford’s comments echo the right-wing meme that nearly every policy President Obama pursues, whether it is the stimulus or his national service plan, is a covert plan to enslave Americans. President Bush’s $1.3 trillion — deficit enlarging — tax cut certainly did not elicit the same hysterical response from Sanford.
Sanford claimed that the nation was founded on “freedom” as opposed to slavery. But that view reveals either a profound ignorance of American and South Carolinian history, or, at worst, is an example of Sanford casually rewriting of the past.
Not only did the nation’s founding documents acknowledge and perpetuate slavery, but South Carolina has a particularly grisly record on the practice. Under the state Constitution of 1790, white men were required to own 500 acres of land and ten slaves to be eligible for the state House of Representatives, and double that to be eligible for the Senate. Author William Dusinberre has described South Carolina as a “charnel house” among other slave states, noting that over fifty five percent of slaves on rice plantations died before the age of fifteen. In addition to brutality from their masters, the deaths were a result of a combination of malaria and infants’ feebleness at birth, which was caused by the mothers’ own chronic malaria and their general exhaustion from rice cultivation during pregnancy.
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Sanford Hopes Stimulus Will Result In ‘A Thing Called Slavery’
There, TP, fixed the header!
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:47 pmOh, give me a flucking BREAK!!!
Hysterical nincompoop. Jebus.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:50 pmGotta give TP some credit on this one – not only is this a incredibly marginal, ignorant repug/neocon that probably no one outside of his district knows anything about, but its definitely “over the top” wingnuttery.
What else would a meaningless backwash-type person do after making a fool of themselves – must be on a week long bender.
Probably celebrating the fact that some will use this to distract from the real issues of the day, because on its own merits, this story would never have seen the light of day outside of his district – great job on keeping the attention on the marginalized, discredited, and wacko fringe and distracting from what obama and the dems are doing quietly.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:51 pmMan, they really don’t know when to keep their mouths shut, do they? Idiots.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pmGov. Sanford has gone missing.
He’s in the Dominican Republic with Rush pervern’ underage boy prostitutes, popping pills and drinking.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:53 pmStanford = Pathetically stupid. He is painful to watch because he is not that bright.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:54 pmOf course, we can laugh about this all we want, but the sad truth is these are the folks that obama and dem leaders consistently capitulate to.
Rather than sticking it to them and asserting the will of the people, they proclaim that they have to be “bipartisan” and pander to this crowd.
Even when the public overwhelmingly wants the opposite.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:54 pmThis is kind of an old idea:
“Debt is the slavery of the free”.
Publilius Syrus quote (Roman author, 1st century B.C.)
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:54 pmI guess the guy is so bad that his wife doesn’t seem overly concerned that he’s been “missing” for several days?
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:55 pmAnother Joe says:
..that probably no one outside of his district..
His “district” is the entire state, you hapless d**kwad.
Of course, can’t expect you wingnuts to think a “Governor” does anything, what with that clueless tramp Palin and all.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:56 pmAnother Joe:
Apparently you haven’t been paying attention. Sanford’s “district” is the state of South Carolina. He has made national headlines about his refusal to take Federal Stimulus Funds.
He is also making noise about running for President in 2012.
Yeah, there are a lot of us that know this wingnut and follow what he says to try to point out his hypocrisy at every turn.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 pmImportant documentary President Obama for anyone that has any doubt where this nation is heading.
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 pmSanford has gone missing. No wonder, after these ridiculous racist comparisons and asinine comments. By the way– you may be missing, but you won’t be missed.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pmLefty – I am paying attention, he is not a frontrunner and there is no general consensus within the party that he is right or even speaks for them.
Don’t by your “we must blog about their hypocracy at every turn” theme – when they are marginalized and talking stooooooopid, there are more important things to talk about.
For example, how about the issues that the American public really cares about and that have widespread general support.
You see, without that dialog, they get defeated because obama and the dem leadership has been consistently giving in to the backwash.
“THEY MADE ME DO IT” didn’t fly as an excuse when you were in Kindergarten – it shouldn’t fly with today’s politicians either.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:02 pmHas anyone ever seen Gov. Mark Sanford and Rick Perry of Texas in person, together at the same time?? They are either the same person or they were searated at birth!
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:03 pmBack when there was actual slavery, the slaves would work a certain percentage of their time producing what little they were allowed to have for their own lives; shelter and clothing and such. The rest of their labor was taken by force. I wonder what the percentage was.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:03 pmAlejandro Says:
Back when there was actual slavery, the slaves would work a certain percentage of their time producing what little they were allowed to have for their own lives; shelter and clothing and such. The rest of their labor was taken by force. I wonder what the percentage was.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
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What do you mean, “back when there was actual slavery?”
There IS actual slavery TODAY. On farms in Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, and other states, ACTUAL slavery is alive and well.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:07 pmkrystalview – most likely the “quality time” these two spend together is behind closed doors.
You have heard the rumors about the TX governor, right? And as for sanford, the only way I could even begin to explain his immature and fantasy view of the world would be to wonder if there aren’t some deeply repressed latent tendencies in which he is in denial of.
Those types of folks make the best repug/wingnuts becuase the project their inner confusion and self-loathing on to the rest of the world.
These types of folks are easily coerced into taking whatever the party line is – too many things in their closets.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:09 pmLeftside Annie Says:
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Oh, give me a flucking BREAK!!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:09 pmAnnie – you beat me to it – was going to say the same exact thing. This is getting ridiculous.
Gov. Sanford has gone missing. No one knows where he is, nor has anyone seen him in the last four days.
Has anyone checked the vacation destination spots of the bailed out execs and their taxpayer-funded private jets? Burdening our citizens with the mismanagement of the financial elites is genuine slavery.
PEACE
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pmchiroptera toasterhead,
true – but if it results in cheap crap at the walmart supercenter, dems and repugs alike are willing to look the other way.
Now wonder they sh#t in our spinach.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pmThere are 49 states and South Carolina.
The governor of South Carolina — South Carolina — is comparing generational debt to slavery?! That’s insulting and stupid even for Sanford. I’m guessing his disappearance is his own personal, individual secession from the Union, hiding out in a Unibomber-style shack somewhere in the backwoods.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:11 pmtoasterhead. If you point to the tough economic circumstance of the workers as slavery, maybe that’s the point Sanford is making.
If the debt impacts our future economic circumstance, maybe it will lead to a similar kind of slavery for the American people.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:11 pmWhat a Drama Queen! He’s tired and he needed to get away! WOW, I’m sure the school children in his state are tired of their crumbling schools. And this guy wants to run for President!? At least Bush never complained he needed to get away…he proudly displayed his hard partying ways and his need to constantly vacation.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:11 pmHey Sanford….Need a tissue?
WillWrite4Food
My guess is he is blowing the chimp.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pmThat’s if your Chinese masters allow you to keep them.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pmbackup Says:
toasterhead. If you point to the tough economic circumstance of the workers as slavery, maybe that’s the point Sanford is making.
If the debt impacts our future economic circumstance, maybe it will lead to a similar kind of slavery for the American people.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
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And if you redefine slavery as ice cream, then we can all go out for slavery after school! Yaaaaay!
Ooo, I want a mint chocolate chip slavery!
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm“If the debt impacts our future economic circumstance, maybe it will lead to a similar kind of slavery for the American people.”
But backup, where was all of this outrage from Republics when Bush was ‘enslaving’ future generations? This is bullshit coming from the Rs now.
Did you see my response to your last comment on the ThinkFast thread (re: Iran)?
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pmSandford gone missing for 4 day?!? Is it possible he was at a klan function…seeing as how he knows sooooo much about slavery…oh cynical me…
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:18 pmbackup Says:
I’ll be gentle to my Republican slaves.
That’s if your Chinese masters allow you to keep them.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Okay, that was funny. ;)
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:18 pmGov. Sanford has gone missing. No one knows where he is…
I think Gov Sanford was here yesterday posting on the Cynthia Davis thread using the nickname Proud American.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:20 pmRumor has it they are still scraping gray matter off the ceiling.
Funny, but when obama and the dems “redifine” healthcare reform as “no universal coverage, no public option” because they expect us to believe impossible in a democracy to bow to the will of the people (over 75 percent support for these changes – that’s a non-story in the mainstream media and even at TP.
But a backwash republican warning us that we are all about to become slaves gets promoted to the frontpage!
Even stranger, some folks cheer and demand more of this “red meat” instead of a rational political dialog on the hypocrisy of the folks that actually have the podium and political clout to accomplish something.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:22 pmJust goes to show you how the other side views slavery as just something that happened and was no big deal. I mean the good Governor and his ilk saved us from Lions, Tigers, and the Ebola virus, thank ya suh.
RIP
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:22 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Is this guy a flake, or what. And how about her? Why would she put up with this crap. These are not normal people here.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:24 pmWow. That is spot on.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pmHakaN. HakaN. Do you love me HakaN? Haka…
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm“Jenny Sanford said the governor said he needed time away from their children to write something.”
You’ve GOT to be kidding – you can’t tell me that there isn’t a spare out-of-the-way room in the governor’s mansion that he can write in?
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:30 pmJane. you’re right about this. It’s why Republicans have little credibility on the issue.
Hopefully, Progressives will see the danger in excessive debt and curb it.
Progressives can point to Republican mismanagement, (while they rack up their own record deficits) but that response doesn’t really address the concerns that come with excessive debt.
Hopefully, we will all come to a place, where we all understand the jeopardy and abandon the ‘you did it, too’ for more responsible stewardship.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:30 pmFound him.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:31 pmkist93. Nice.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:33 pmGov. Sanford has gone missing.
Maybe he went looking for his brain.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 pmThis isn’t just a reach, it’s rucking fidiculous.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pmOnce again, we get the, “Don’t blame us for all the horrible things we did. It’s time to move on,” defense.
Grow up.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pmKist93, thanks for the laugh! :D
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:41 pmI’m glad he’s not in the recycling bin.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:44 pmtoasterhead. I’m going under the assumption that Publilius (the first century B.C. Roman author) wasn’t a Republican partisan or a racist Obama detractor.
But, he states: “Debt is the slavery of the free”.
Another saying: The debtor is the slave to the lender.
Despite Sanford, there is a long standing connection between debt and slavery.
It’s a little sensational, but the idea is that too much debt is a problem; regardless of which party you belong.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:45 pmBlame Republicans or Conservatives or me all you want. But, then when you’re done blaming us for what we’ve done, try doing something different.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:47 pmGov. Sanford has gone missing. No one knows where he is, nor has anyone seen him in the last four days. Sanford spokesman Joel Sawyer told the AP that Sanford was taking time to “recharge” after his failed fight against federal stimulus money.
David Vitter been sighted recently??
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:49 pmHe’s been found.
Of course, that report is from the notoriously evil commie pinko CBS . . .
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 pmSlavery? Isn’t that the system where people are forced to work for minimal compensation while their ‘owners’ reap economic benefits?
Isn’t that a system where only a few privileged types sock away the money while keeping the work force contained by limiting things like opportunities, wages and health care?
Isn’t it a system where an elite rations things like education, keeps the work force enthralled because they can’t afford anything more?
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:54 pmIncidentally, in the original post that should be “grisly history” rather than “grizzly history” — unless we’re talking about bears.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:55 pmI see Sanford took Cramer’s advice and “kind of just went away.” It’s not surprising that Sanford has those views he’s a racist.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:56 pmAnother Joe Says:
Important documentary President Obama for anyone that has any doubt where this nation is heading.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm==========
Why are you so paranoid?
DallasNE – yes this guy IS A FLAKE.
The only real question should be “WHY ARE WE BLOGGIN’ ABOUT THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF A SELF-PROCLAIMED PROGRESSIVE WEBSITE!”
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pmranus69 – just havin’ fun and pointing out that if we want to see positive change, we need to keep our eyes on the folks that are currenly IN the white house and the CURRENT leaders of congress.
And if change doesn’t happen, even when 75% or more of the public demand it – then hold THEM accountable.
The backwash had its day in the sun, yet it is all backwash all the time here lately.
And important issues never see the light of day here as a direct result.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pmI hope the ACLU schools him on what slavery is really like.
Joe you’re contributing to the comments on this thread so the call for it to stop is really hypcritical. Why are you even here if you don’t like the content?
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 pmIsn’t Backwash when gravity pulls the wave back down the beach?
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 pmGov. Sanford has gone missing. No one knows where he is, nor has anyone seen him in the last four days.
Wow, that’s some family life he has there where he goes missing over the Father’s day weekend and his wife doesn’t seem very concerned. It sounds like maybe he’s done something like this before. Perhaps he’s off for a little nooky with his girl friend.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 pm“He was writing something and wanted some space to get away from the kids,” Jenny Sanford told The Associated Press while vacationing with the couple’s four sons at their Sullivans Island beach house. She said she didn’t know where he was, but wasn’t concerned.
Them Family Values ™ is tight like a jock strap.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 pmTryin’, b-cup. Unfortunately al the shrieking about “generational theft” and “slavery” kind of makes it a tad more difficult than it ought to be.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 pmThe thing that Sanford ignores is the fact that his state got in the terrible financial condition it’s in now under his stewardship. So since he screwed up their finances, he now wants to use Federal funds to bail them out.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 pmAnother Joe, have you tried television?
At least there, you get a choice of channels.
You’re not forced to watch one all the time, like your crappy internet provider forces you to do online.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:17 pmComing off as wacky, disappearing probably eliminates him from contention for any 2012 possibilities. People won’t elect someone that shows unstable behaviour. Even if this turns to be a big nothing, his GOP opponents will hang it around his neck like a burning tire.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:18 pmkdgamergirl Says:
Joe you’re contributing to the comments on this thread so the call for it to stop is really hypcritical. Why are you even here if you don’t like the content?
It is here because it gets off on whining and all the attention people pay to it for its whining.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:18 pmSanford Predicts Stimulus Will Result In ‘A Thing Called Slavery’
Gov. Sanford has gone missing.
Clearly he went shopping for a lifetime supply of crazy pants.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:18 pmDamn. Wow. How are they getting away with that?
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:21 pm“Sanford Predicts Stimulus Will Result In ‘A Thing Called Slavery’
Also known as “the good ole days” for the GOOPER base in the south
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:24 pmAlso, there is a difference for debt that you incurred by your own free will and debt incurred in your name by others.
“Hey we passed a spending bill and you owe $1200 for it. Don’t worry the next spending bill will only cost you $1100. Stop? Stop spending? Hey, we represent you and we say that you want this debt.”
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pmHow insulting is a statement like that from a well-off South Carolina southern white guy to those millions of African-Americans that are decendents of ACTUAL FRIGGIN SLAVES at the hands of rich white land owners in SC?
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pmHe’s taking time to ‘recharge’…on Father’s Day weekend without telling his family where he was. What a guy…..
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pmdbadass – maybe where you come from, but to the rest of us its what is left in a beer or drink that is flat, stale, and full of saliva – rather than “drink the backwash”, most of us prefer a “fresh” drink.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:29 pmHawkeye Says:
“He’s taking time to ‘recharge’…on Father’s Day weekend without telling his family where he was. What a guy…..”
ten bucks says there was meth and a gay male hooker involved.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 pmralph – here I get a steady stream of crap that, in the most hypocritical manner, demands an outrageous level of literal truth from the most dishonest of pundits and politicians.
And obama and the dems get a free pass for capitulating to them anyhow.
On TV, I have hundreds of channels, all with different crap.
It is much easier to laugh at the train wreck here and take some comfort in knowing that there are others that visit this site that are also sick of the 24/7 coverage of idiots and the absence of any dialog about “progress”, much less holding obama and the dems to the same standards for literal truths.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 pmAJ,
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 pmA jibjab video? Really?
RandomChaos – yup, but Maher actually has a better take on obama.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 pmmost of us prefer a “fresh” drink.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm——
Have you considered a different bar?
Another Joe,
If 76% of the public is demanding health care reform NOW than we are holding them accountable?
And as far as the important issues never seeing the light of day that sounds like the last administration for which no one held them accountable for anything.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pmSpeaking of slavery: George W. Bush (in his heart and mind) is thoroughly glad that slavery occurred. Bush hates black people.
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SCANDAL! SCANDAL! SCANDAL!
EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!
George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her.
“In her suit, Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point, when she commits suicide” (blog of drizzten).
“One of those ‘very leasts’ [was] George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of [then] president-elect George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell—Nevada Progressive Democratic Candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010).
McConnell is correct: Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death.
Bush is a racist hate criminal and hates black people (please feel free to see my “GEORGE W. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY” blog: andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com). (Schoedinger was an African-American woman.)
BEWARE: If the president of the United States hates one—for whatever reasons—he can continuously criminally stalk one to the point that one cannot get away from it, and one ultimately commits suicide in desperation to escape. He can murder people in this way.
Bush is getting away with his murder of Schoedinger—with no sheriff, prosecutor, or court willing to uphold the rule of law.
Bush’s method of murdering Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way.
Bush should confess, come out with the names of all of the people whom he murdered in the disgusting way he murdered Schoedinger, undergo execution, and accordingly find himself at the intersection where he would be free.
(There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. It exists very extensively in all major search engines. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her” or “Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death,” hit “Enter,” and find innumerable results.)
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:42 pm_______________
Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
(a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”)
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.
Bullshit. You just think that failure to declare the president a traitor to his cause is giving him a “free pass”. Your act has gotten a little predictable and tiresome, as many have pointed out.
So I see you have embraced your inner troll, as Keltoi used to say. Congrats.
Yeah, well, you know what I do when I’m sick of a website?
I stop visiting it.
Not sure why that option hasn’t occurred to you.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:43 pmHi Andrew Yu-Jen Wang:
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:43 pmI have been thinking about you and your novile resume. Still no bites?
Andrew most employers could care less where you went to high school especially if it was 16 years ago…
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 pmSorry AJ, Streaming videos/music are blocked here. (I am called an Internet Nazi for blocking it.) So I will have to get back to you on the two funny people with opinions on Obama.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 pmr-anus, you don’t get it, but blog about the meaningless backwash 24/7 if you really think it somehow helps the will of the people prevail.
In the meantime, the majority of Americans are being sold out by the white house and congress. Some doing the selling-out are loud and vocal about it.
But obama and the dem leaders are pretending to be helpless and at the mercy of the wingnuts that get 24/7 coverage here.
If you think it is beneficial to continue the 24/7 backwash coveraage, by all means, continue to say to here. Its your right.
It is also the right of others to laugh at the sheer hypocrisy of devoting so much attention to the marginalized and fringe lunatics and giving a “free pass” on those that, a few short month ago, proclaimed to have a “mandate” but are now capitulating to said backwash.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 pmralph – you don’t get it, but please continue posting so those that do can see you don’t.
What’s that famous line, “so clueless that he doesn’t even suspect”
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:49 pmI think debt is slavery but I’m doubting the 82% figure. Deficit spending is slavery though, I won’t dispute that.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:49 pmi see the UPDATE has it covered… here’s more:
AWOL South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford has entire state in a tizzy
New York Daily News – Helen Kennedy – ?27 minutes ago?
Sanford ditched his security detail on Thursday, missed Father’s Day weekend with his family, and didn’t show up at work Monday.
SC governor’s whereabouts unknown, even to wife The Associated Press
Missing: One South Carolina governor. Has sentimental value… Christian Science Monitor
WLOS – msnbc.com – Politico – Newsweek
all 372 news articles »
http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&ncl=dMmFqotnox8lGYMQfNShVScO_t8kM&topic=n
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:50 pmAnother Joe,
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:53 pmDo you get it?
Another Joe. I watched the clip you linked (back around comment # 79):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRIlmG94GIo
I agree with the point that Republicans have become, not the party of capitalism, but of corporatism.
The bailouts of the corporations is the opposite of capitalism.
The corporations that Republicans have championed only give lip service to the idea of free markets. Their real thrust is self preservation.
Good for the corporations. Bad for everyone else.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 pmYou don’t read TPM or see my post earlier today – you post no link here. Since last week, TPM has been all over this and I have brought those links here daily.
You cannot prove to me that “single payer” is now part of the dialog, I can show you dozens of recent articles saying not only is that out, but now so are universal coverage and a public option.
Maybe you should hold yourself accountable, but I hope we all hold those that ran on “change” accountable too.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:55 pmMaybe Andrew is just inordinately proud of his connection with Kobe Bryant?
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:56 pmdbadass – what don’t you get….
Real “accountability” is a 2 way street. If people run on a platform of “change” and then abandon the reforms that 75% of Americans would support, there is no real change.
Its called pandering.
And it’s hypocrisy whether a dem or repug does it. Blog about the outrageous fools on the right if you want, but don’t ignore the fact that obama and the dems are still capitulating to them.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:56 pmNo, Joe, I think I get it.
You like attention. Otherwise, you’d go elsewhere. Pretty much everybody around here gets that.
But thanks for your concern.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 pmThat’s it, jeff, attack someone with liberal progressive ideas instead of holding obama and the dem leadership accountable for delivering “change.”
That’s real “progress” for ya – that’s how you “think progress” – give in to the repugs and wingnuts and proclaim that you had to, because…
Well they are just so crazy.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 pmdbadass – what don’t you get….
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June 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 pmThat wasn’t the question but unlike others I am not going to dodge it. I don’t entirely get string theory and I absolutely do not get now those shitty chain restaurants can call some woody romaine ends, some stale bread, and some dried out chicken a Caesar salad. Otherwise I get a lot of stuff. Now do I have to repeatthe question?
dbadass, apparently none of us “gets it”.
Another Joe and hanshiro are the only ones who “get it”.
Oh, and b-cup.
We’re fortunate that they’re all so concerned.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 pmralphie – glad you speak for EVERYONE – must feel good to anoint yourself GOD OF TP.
It is funny to watch fools like you rant about idiots on the right and have no expectations that obama or dems deliver on their promises.
But is a certifiable insane repug says something stupid, JUMP!!!!!! And then ignore the fact that obama and dems are giving in to these wildly unpopular folks anyhow.
And then blame the people that point out the hypocracy and call it “think progress”
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 pmGod od TP?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:03 pmAren’t you the one decree that you get it and others don’t? For real if you don’t dig it why not split? Can you atleast answer that? I don’t disagree with you basic premise. I just thing it ought to be tempered with some level of reality and a little less presumptionof superiority…
The world according to TP:
sanford says something stupid – BAD
obama and democratic leaders capitulate to the demands of the crowd sanford represents and enables the continuation of their agenda – good.
You see, obama, pelosi, and reid have a “d” after their name, so they are the good guys…
We might not get the change we were promised (hypocritical pandering anyone) but at least it was OUR GUYS that screwed us over.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:03 pm- not your monkey
if you agree on some of my premise, then I will post forever – after all, it takes only a second to add some REAL ISSUES to the banality being bantered around here for the past week.
All backwash all the time and shame on you if you expected change!
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:04 pmJeff Bovine,
Hows your un-American mom doing over there with Ensign? I heard Silvio Berlusconi was paying a bit better?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:04 pmJoe, you are annoying.
You come here and assume that all anyone here does is read TP and gets no other information, and you feel that it is your resposibility to educate us on what you assume we do not know.
Add to that the fact that you ignore the posts by MOST people who DO hold Dems to the flame.
So, yeah, I agree with the others. You just want attention. Pretty lame.
If you have a point make it. Try not to use the term backwash, kay?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 pmActual upon further reflection, your basic premise is shit. Why don’t you get the hell out of here and preach your attention seeking shit elsewhere…I don’t know what can over me.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 pmAnother Joe Says:
- not your monkey
if you agree on some of my premise, then I will post forever – after all, it takes only a second to add some REAL ISSUES to the banality being bantered around here for the past week.
All backwash all the time and shame on you if you expected change!
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:10 pm===============
Yawn…….
For real if you don’t dig it why not split? Can you atleast answer that?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:11 pm—
I’ve got a fin that this one also goes unanswered… Any takers?
76% of Americans support a public option for all on health care. Yet the dems claim that they don’t have the “votes” to pass a public option or that they need Republican support to reform health care
Voters considered the Repug plan – rejected it in 2008. More than 3 out of 4 Americans reject it today.
In other words, to hypercritical dems wringing their hands over sacrificing real change at the crumbling alter of “bipartisanship,” to those who worship politics over principle and to those who act as if their constituents are the Republican minority in Congress whining about “socialism” rather than the American majority from coast to coast wishing for a public option, election have consequences.
John McCain lost. Republicans lost the presidency. Let’s not reward their defeat by implementing their rejected plans. Because in that dynamic, the only people who truly lose are the American people who voted for the Democratic candidate, Barack Obama, and for his public health insurance plan.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:18 pmdbadass – not your monkey
Besides, you might be standing in front of the line now pretending it is your parade, but you do not speak for everyone here.
But stick a flag in your naval and pretend you are the little pooh-bah if that trips your little dinger.
We will see change here and in our politics eventually. You will not be able to continue to rail against people that ask for a meaningful dialog as long as obama and the dems continue to capitulated to the folks that LOST in 2008.
There will be consequences next time around and your proclaimations won’t matter.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 pmJust answered the question or show yourself to be a fraud. Cut the shit alright. I have no patience for posers.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:24 pmShall I repeat it for you big guy?
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
dbadass, apparently none of us “gets it”.
Another Joe and hanshiro are the only ones who “get it”.
Oh, and b-cup.
We’re fortunate that they’re all so concerned.
All AJ says is:
WAH Obama is a mean old President cause he did something I didn’t like.
WAH I have nothing better to do that insult TP posters cause I have no friends.
These concern trolls sound like Rush Limbaugh and the other GOP clowns only “liberal” style!
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:32 pmIf blacks were getting paid for not working on the plantations, why was slavery such a bad thing?
No wonder the South fought for slavery. They were just trying to help out the black folk.
Now I kinda wish they woulda won.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:34 pmI’m interested in what you concern trolls (That would be you Joe) actually do about their endless complaints.
Do you even do anything to improve your community or serve your country to help make things better? Do you contact your representatives in government and express your anger with certain policies?
My bet is no. Just whining.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:35 pmHey there kdamergirl
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:38 pmWanna Fuji and Tanaka this faker? I’ll but the Mai Tais when we are done…
Now you’ve done, it dbadass…
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:41 pmdbadass Says:
Hey there kdamergirl
Wanna Fuji and Tanaka this faker? I’ll but the Mai Tais when we are done…
Absolutely. I’m sick of these whiny children taking over the threads and the Mai Tais will be an added bonus :)
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:42 pmI suspect that you’re referring to this comment of mine?
Perhaps I should have clarified:
Judging from the comments, pretty much everybody around here gets that.
Does that make it clearer? I hope so.
If not, please feel free to cling to your “GOD OF TP” meme. It seems to be working well for you.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:43 pmDang, joe. You really should just be honest and admit you want a totalitarian dictatorship with you in charge. There’s no shame in high ambition, unless one lies about one’s motives and goals.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 pmsorry ralph it was the two way strret thing that threw me. To make it up I intend to beat this one into the ground and then chuckle at it’s made up ass some more…
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 pmNo prob, dbadass. This is a tricky one to be sure.
That “two-way street” thing will get you every time with these guys. Still, it’s important to make the effort.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 pmRodeskawler Says:
If blacks were getting paid for not working on the plantations, why was slavery such a bad thing?
No wonder the South fought for slavery. They were just trying to help out the black folk.
Now I kinda wish they woulda won.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm============
And that’s why the union won the civil war.
Another Joe Says:
…not only is this a incredibly marginal, ignorant repug/neocon that probably no one outside of his district knows anything about…
Governors run states, not districts.
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Alejandro Says:
Damn. Wow. How are they getting away with that?
Typically by rousing racism into political discourse, thereby making it really difficult for undocumented residents to get green cards, so they can be easily exploited. If your very existence is considered illegal then you have no recourse to the law for any purpose, and others can do whatever they want with you. Something to think about next time a Republican is screaming about how immigrants are committing crimes just by being here.
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Another Joe Says:
after all, it takes only a second to add some REAL ISSUES to the banality being bantered around here for the past week.
You can post any news items you think are missing from TP in the “Think Fast” post that goes up every morning. Other posts have one subject, and we should stick to that. If you don’t want to talk about that subject, don’t post; or find a website where that subject is being discussed and discuss it there.
But what you’re doing here is like walking into someone’s living room and peeing on their rug while complaining at the top of your voice that it isn’t a bathroom, but it should be a bathroom, and demanding someone come put a toilet in front of you.
It’s usually wingnuts that come in and do that. So we’re double-offended that you’re making liberalism look stupid.
Lots of people at TP criticize Obama and Congressional Dems. It would be more effective if you were specific and on-topic with your criticisms. Post in a thread relevant to an issue that you think Obama/Pelosi/Reid should be more to the left on, and explain why and what they could do. I realize that as you see it there’s a huge list of things they’re doing wrong, so you may think you’re saving time by waving a blanket condemnation; however, the reverse is actually the case. If you stay focused to an actual topic, your comments will be more convincing, and therefore your time here will be more productive.
Others might still disagree with you, but at least then they’ll have to say why, as opposed to just pointing at you and laughing.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:55 pmWe should just refer to them as Rush Limbaugh or some other GOP losers because that’s what they sound like.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:56 pmI amjust bummed that Andrew Yu-Jen Wang had to split why I was tied up with that other unpleasantness…
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:06 pmI don’t see Sanford getting re-elected if they actually bother to count the votes down there.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:19 pmSo i wonder where Mark Sanford is right now… It’s ten o’clock! Do you know where Mark Sanford is?
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:33 pm“It’s ten o’clock! Do you know where Mark Sanford is?”
Ape-Man, do they still do that “It’s 10p.m., do you know where your children are?” thing? – I used to see that on the local news, but I haven’t watched local news in years.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 pmIt would be nice if TP had a function where we could ignore the most annoying posters.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:21 pmBetter lost than dead I guess.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:22 pmJane E. Schneider Says:
“It’s ten o’clock! Do you know where Mark Sanford is?”
Ape-Man, do they still do that “It’s 10p.m., do you know where your children are?” thing? – I used to see that on the local news, but I haven’t watched local news in years.
They don’t around here, Jane. But I once saw a comedian make a play on it:
“It’s ten o’clock, in Peyton Place. Do you know who your parents are?”
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:56 pmIt’s 10 o’clock, do you know which stall your US Senator is in?
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:05 pmMark Sanford says: the Republic was originally set up was… this larger notion of freedom. And economic freedom is a part of the larger notion of freedom.
This coming from the Republicans who were opposed to the minimum wage being as high as $5.15 per hour, think it fine that healthcare for one is $1000 per month, and are opposed to rent controls. Do the math and you have the economic freedom to do absolutely NOTHING!
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:15 pmPete,
try this link:
http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/distribution/default.asp
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:19 pmSanford is out getting his stimulus package sucked. If the republicans can starve public education out of existence it will be another step in making sure that only the wealthy get a decent education. Their most effective political strategy is the Jerry Springer talking point angle.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 pmPo widdle baby can’t stand the heat.
While he’s on vacation the rest of the state bleeds.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 pmThis story goes a long way towards explaining Sanford’s “Disappearance”…He’s rebuilding the underground railroad!
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:44 pm@ another joe #14
Sorry, I had a family emergency to deal with right after I posted.
What the h*ll are you rambling about? My 3 year old neighbor makes more sense than you…
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:46 amThe potential GOP candidates for 2012 are dropping like flies. Ensign, now Sanford, are all now apparantly out of contention for weird behavior. Palin supporters can give a little cheer.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:12 amIdiot !!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 amSlavery??? …why that ought to get the support of all the racist republican pigs in the South.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:09 amJesus; no wonder this clown has disappeared.
I would want to run away from those ignorant comments too.
I especially like how his staff are claiming he’s on some kind of ‘Deliverance’ outing in the Appalachian mountains.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:17 amHey Stanford- go take a hike !! Oh my bad- he already did !!! What a nut !!
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:36 pmyou are all missing the point. you are approaching this thing from a republican versus democrat stance. WRONG! And you are falling for the trick. Bottom line…
BOTH parties are full of crap! They both take their turns “being in charge” and we fall for it every 4 to 8 years.
ONLY when we the people return this country to the hand of those that uphold the US Constitution and accept that the Federal Government is supposed to be a servant to the States and NOT their master… only then will we begin to solve the problems and regain our freedoms.
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