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Bolton Slams Obama For Being ‘Timid’ On Iran, Then Admits U.S. Options Limited Because Of Bush’s Failures

Yesterday on Fox News, Sean Hannity and former U.N. ambassador John Bolton joined the right-wing chorus hitting President Obama’s response to the Iranian election crisis. Bolton repeatedly said Obama should act more forcefully and offer the “possibility of concrete assistance” to the Iranian protestors:

BOLTON: Well, it’s not at all what they want, and you know what’s worst of all about this, looking at President Obama, is not only that he’s being timid, he’s being disingenuous. The real reason that he won’t speak out has nothing to do with this argument that we don’t want to meddle. [...]

[Obama] is abandoning the people in the streets and not providing any possibility of concrete assistance to them.

Hannity then asked Bolton whether he agreed with Lt. Col. Ralph Peters’s recent New York Post op-ed, in which he wrote that Obama’s “silence” is “a blank check for the current regime.” Bolton surprisingly backtracked and seemed to contradict his statements from a few moments earlier, claiming it’s better to be “prudent” right now because the United States isn’t in a position to “provide concrete assistance”:

BOLTON: Well, I think it’s mostly right except I would say this. Because including during the Bush administration we did not prepare adequately for this potential revolutionary moment, we’re not really in a position now to offer much concrete assistance.

And I don’t want America to be in a position where we urge people in the streets and then watch them die. I’d rather be a little bit prudent and prepare for the long-term where we really can provide concrete assistance.

Watch it:

So basically, Bolton wants Obama to stand with the Iranian protestors and provide the “possibility of concrete assistance,” even though he also thinks the United States is in no position “where we really can provide concrete assistance”? Of course, this call to be “prudent” comes from a man who wanted Obama to launch “meaningful efforts at regime change” just a few months ago. Bolton’s claim to want to assist Iran’s “people in the streets” also rings hollow, given that he has wanted to bomb them for years.

Transcript:

HANNITY: Barack Obama saying we’re meddling? This has nothing to do with us? It doesn’t matter which side wins? I’m thinking this — is that Reagan? Is that really what the people of Iran want from America?

BOLTON: Well, it’s not at all what they want, and you know what’s worst of all about this, looking at President Obama, is not only that he’s being timid, he’s being disingenuous. The real reason that he won’t speak out has nothing to do with this argument that we don’t want to meddle. The Iranian regime is already accusing us of that.

The real reason is the president is determined to find a way to try and negotiate with the regime, with Khamenei, with Ahmadinejad about their nuclear weapons program. This is a policy doomed to failure. But it explains why he won’t speak out in defense of representative government and individual liberty in Iran.

HANNITY: Well, is that why he’s basically a signal that he will work with them regardless of who wins out here?

BOLTON: He did indeed, and he has done that since his inaugural address where he said to regimes that stay in power by silencing the opposition and deceit and corruption, I will extend a hand.

Well, check, check, check, that certainly describes the regime in Iran, and he is abandoning the people in the streets and not providing any possibility of concrete assistance to them. [...]

HANNITY: What do you think of Ralph Peters? He says our silence is complicity and that by Obama and the administration being silent that it represented a green light to the mullahs for a crackdown?

BOLTON: Well, I think it’s mostly right except I would say this. Because including during the Bush administration we did not prepare adequately for this potential revolutionary moment, we’re not really in a position now to offer much concrete assistance.

And I don’t want America to be in a position where we urge people in the streets and then watch them die. I’d rather be a little bit prudent and prepare for the long-term where we really can provide concrete assistance.



109 Responses to “Bolton Slams Obama For Being ‘Timid’ On Iran, Then Admits U.S. Options Limited Because Of Bush’s Failures”

  1. RantingTommy says:

    Bolton is an idiot, but Another Joe will soon be here to complain that this has nothing to do with health care


  2. spencers mom says:

    I see the GNOP foreign policy “experts” are still as incoherent as ever. That they add their trademark insistence and certainty to their incoherence makes them increasingly dangerous.

    Thank whomever they have no power. Well, except in Harry Reid’s Senate!

    PEACE


  3. Uncle Ho says:

    Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb the AEI

    no snark


  4. Briseadh na Firefly says:

    Perhaps the Reich-Wing wants President Obama to be more like King Bush I. After the successful invasion of Kuwait, Bush I encouraged the people of Iraq to revolt against Saddam Hussein, then stood back as they were slaughtered and gassed with the very chemical weapons the U.S. sold to Saddam.

    Perhaps it is time to begin looking at the Republican Party as a terrorist organization, given that their solution to world affairs is invariably violence.


  5. spearNmagicHelmet says:

    serious question:

    when do we collectively say enough of this shit?


  6. angels81 says:

    Neocons like Bolton will never be happy until we are at war with Iran. Its the only answer that gives them a woody.


  7. tokin librul says:

    I am (for now) content with how “thePrez” is ‘handling’ the immediate, domestic Iranian situation.

    There are, of course, USer/CIA operatives and agents provocateurs on the ground, stirring shit up, as usual. Nothing happens in the world without grubby Murkin fingerprints showing up on the details somewhere.

    But Obama’s strict hands-off stance as a matter of official policy cannot be rebutted, imho…

    Another interesting factoid to consider: How those claiming the solidarity with the Iranian “people” were so eager a mere 6 months ago to murder those very people, and destroy their country, at the behest of a “client” state (Israel). How soon after these domestic difficulties in Iran are concluded will Bolton, the PNAC/Zionists, and the rest begin the aggro for “bomb bomb bombing” Iran?

    BTW: Geaux Tigers!


  8. IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

    I couldn’t care less what Bolten has to say. The only thing this man is concerned with is finding a way to get us into a military conflict with Iran and he won’t be happy until we are.


  9. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Bolton is a bumbling wingnut fool along with McCain and the rest. President Obama has said all he needs to say. We don’t need another war. Let the Iranians handle their own issues.
    What else do they want Obama to say? That he’s going to bomb Iran?


  10. misscoleopteramolly says:

    RantingTommy Says
    June 23rd, 2009 at 10:05 am

    Bolton is an idiot, but Another Joe will soon be here to complain that this has nothing to do with health care
    _____________________________________________________________

    True — sort of like depending on the sun to rise in the east. In addition to his complaint that this has nothing to do with healthcare, he’ll label this “backwash”, which seems to be his favorite term du jour.

    While I agree that we don’t need to pounce on conservatives every time one of them has a simple brain fart and misspeaks (although sometimes that’s just funny), I think rebutting idiotic talking points they actually intend to say is worthwhile. After all, silence implies acceptance.

    Even more golden is when they undercut their own arguments, making our rebuttal unnecessary, and all that needs to be done is expose it. For if we don’t hold their doubletalk to the light, who will?


  11. RantingTommy says:

    true, molly, and what kind of moron would think that we could not simultaneously be concerned about health care and laugh at the stupidity of right wingers?


  12. paleolib says:

    Lest anyone think Bolton sounded remotely reasonable in admitting that “limited options” exist in light of the failure of the Bush administration to prepare, to Bolton lack of adequate preparation = failure to bomb Tehran while the neocons still had influence.


  13. pax says:

    He is an irrelevant idiot!


  14. Whenwillthisnightmareend says:

    It occurs to me that the right wing, the Palin/McCain wing of the GOP put out all this idiotic, but sounds good rhetoric, in the hopes of the Obama administration taking this bait and doing something ala George Bush, not for the betterment of this nation, but to watch Obama screw up, again ala George Bush (we KNOW where that got us), so that they can then take the high ground and highlight the failures that their recommendations will inevitably cause. They certainly are not people to be listened to, or trusted.
    We elected Obama; we should trust him to do the right thing, especially since his actions so far have exuded the competence that the GOP, for eight years, have lacked.


  15. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    misscoleopteramolly Says:

    I think rebutting idiotic talking points they actually intend to say is worthwhile. After all, silence implies acceptance.
    _____________

    Whilst this is true, missmolly, there’s also a subtle trap in there. Sometimes trying to disprove a dishonest talking point GIVES it credibility by making it appear to be worthy of debate in the first place. Sometimes, it’s just best to say “That’s silly”, or irrational, or meaningless.

    Otherwise, you can get into a push-pull kind of argument you can’t win, because there is no real answer.
    _______________

    Even more golden is when they undercut their own arguments, making our rebuttal unnecessary, and all that needs to be done is expose it. For if we don’t hold their doubletalk to the light, who will?
    _______________

    Indeed… that’s why I like to embarrass them w/ their own words…


  16. kasinca says:

    This guy is a neo-conservative fascist.


  17. hormiga brava chavez says:

    What is with all of these “former” buttheads (Bolton, Gingrich, Rove, Cheney, Santorum and even GW Bush) giving their opinions on the President’s actions? Why are they always trying tell the President what to do and say?
    I’d love to serve them a hot plate of STFU! Go back to your caves has beens!


  18. RantingTommy says:

    kasinca Says:

    This guy is a neo-conservative fascist.

    That’s redundant


  19. Marie says:

    This dynamic duo certainly has all the answers. Wrong!

    Hannity, the cowardly blowhard is hardly one to speak about what Obama should do — aside from having nothing more than criticism for the sake of criticism – he offers NOTHING in what he thinks should be said or done.

    Bolton, the abysmal failure at the UN — the bellicose Yosemite Sam of the diplomatic (?)corps — never has anything to say except criticism — despite al evidence to the contrary, he’s always right, just ask him.


  20. hivanh says:

    I thought Bolton was dead? More wishful thinking, I guess.


  21. Another Joe says:

    Well, bolton is a largely discredited “backwash” from the criminal cabal that made up dur chimpfurher’s administration.

    But then you need to realize, bolton was the guy that wanted to nuke the entire region into a glass parking lot.

    It’s a good thing that chimpy “failed” these neocons in that way.

    BRING ON MORE READ MEET AND LET THE CIRCUS BEGIN!



  22. tom says:

    Little Seanie Vanity and John (”Got milk?”) Bolton . . . the Laurel and Hardy of the right-wing chattering class.


  23. lvdragonlady says:

    Bolton is a warmongering traitor. He has been pushing war in Iran, N.Korea and any place else he can think about. Need to send his dumb*** over there with a rifle and see how he REALLY likes it. He is like so many in the GOP, they tout war but have NEVER had to serve, so screw them.
    This guy needs to be tried as a traitor to his country.


  24. Shellly says:

    If these folks would stop for just one minute in opposing everything the president does, says or do not say, they might be able to realize that the president is right.

    The minute I see one of these republicans flailing in disagreement, I know that the president is correct.

    If the president said the sky is blue, they would find a way to disagree with him. They should just sit this one out.

    They won’t even fight for their own citizens here without health care, but yet want to take on the regime in Iran. They can’t even solve the norm coleman /Al franken saga, but yet want to take on Iran?


  25. mk3872 says:

    More granstanding and political opportunism. The Republican conservative strategy since 01.20.09: slam EVERYTHING the president does and stake out the exact polar opposite position.

    This should not come as a surprise.


  26. jrfunkenstein says:

    My God; how did this mind numbingly hypocritical idiot ever rise to a position of prominence in international politics?

    Oh right; compared to the rest of the Bush cabal, Bolton must have been seen as the ‘radical moderate.’

    After calling for military intervention in Iran for YEARS, he now admits the US position has been severely weakened by the Bush ‘doctrine,’ which as we all now realize, was merely code for abject incompetence.

    First Obama isn’t doing enough to offer ‘concrete asssistance,’ whatever the Hell THAT means, then only moments later, Bolton admits there isn’t anything in the form of ‘concrete assistance’ that Obama can do; and this constitutes an opinion?

    A five year old could punch holes in that logic in between hopscotch games at recess.

    Yet another brilliant Bush sycophant weighs in with all the credibility of a court jester; pathetic.


  27. majii says:

    Isn’t Bolton the idjit who got the UN position via a recess appointment because Bush knew it would be difficult getting him approved in the Senate? More cronyism. I stopped listening to republicans a long, long, long time ago. I’ve always viewed most of them as scum of the earth. I’ve watched them all in office from Reagan to Bush, Jr., and have witnessed the erosion of our civil liberties, the rich getting richer, Christianity becoming more entrenched in public policy, etc. All policies which served their purposes but not those of the average American.


  28. misscoleopteramolly says:

    mk3872 Says
    June 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 am

    The Republican conservative strategy since 01.20.09: slam EVERYTHING the president does and stake out the exact polar opposite position.
    ___________________________________________________________

    And by doing this, they lessen their impact. They don’t realize that the constant drumbeat of opposition becomes nothing more than noise people become accustomed to (much like the sound of traffic in the city), and they stop listening.

    It’s red meat for the party faithful, but it fails to win any new converts.


  29. Reggie says:

    Another Joe Says:
    BRING ON MORE READ MEET AND LET THE CIRCUS BEGIN!

    Circus, are you here to be one of the clowns?


  30. Uosdwis says:

    Can’t we just get this guy and McCain and Lindsey Graham, hell, all republicans, into a paintball camp or something and let them act on their aggressions all day long and leave the rest of us alone? Maybe a boxing ring?


  31. Leftside Annie says:

    Bolton sez: Yeah, we broke it – but you’re a PUSSSY becuz you can’t fix it!!!! Neener, neener, neener!!!

    Jebus. What is he, like six years old??


  32. neoconsrscum says:

    So, Bolton, you moustachio-ed, Clownish, Neon-CON, Chicken-Hawk Piece of SHIT,

    Which one is it? Are you prepared to send yours kids to Iran? YOU never served, and don’t say being a talking head and State Department hanger- on counts.


  33. shoeless says:

    BOLTON: And I don’t want America to be in a position where we urge people in the streets and then watch them die, unless we are the ones who are killing them.


  34. the great GOPsby says:

    mcCain would have cut to the chase and bombed them to the neverland. america know knows they made the wrong choice. its all about choice and choice is good. like in health care. america now knows the consequences of their bad choice.


  35. A Patriotic Anopheles Acting says:

    Uosdwis, can we tell them it’s paintball and supply then with live ammo?


  36. the great GOPsby says:

    i dont want bolton’s kids serving. i want them going to good business schools and letting cnbc know of all the great economic growth.


  37. the great GOPsby says:

    carter signed a peace accord that never worked and led to more violence. using our weaponry promotes structure and order and discipline.


  38. shoeless says:

    the great GOPsby Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    mcCain would have cut to the chase and bombed them to the neverland.

    Wow! John McCain would have slaughtered 75 million people? That would rank him in history as the most bloodthirsty monster of all time! Wouldn’t uou be proud.


  39. Art says:

    Republicans are the “Slam Obama” party, no matter what he does.
    It is their knee jerk reaction.

    The president would be damned by them if he did, and damned by them if he didn’t.


  40. the great GOPsby says:

    thats right. you have to admit, mccain is a ucking awesome military man.


  41. pastcaring says:

    [Obama] is abandoning the people in the streets and not providing any possibility of concrete assistance to them.–Bolton

    You have him confused with Bush…during Katrina


  42. the great GOPsby says:

    why not? party of nooing worked during the clinton. clinton was so boxed in he relieved his tensions by licking the butt crack of monica lewinsky.


  43. the great GOPsby says:

    tell me liberals. what good is a military if we never use it? what good is our missiles and tanks and bombers and all the military r d if we keep everything dormant.


  44. Mikala says:

    Is it any wonder that the Bush foreign policy was such a failure when you listen to Bolton’s dribble. The GOP wants Obama to fail and it is statements like this that proves it.


  45. Doc Rock says:

    John Bolton is a loud, obnoxious, dimbulb who set back U.S. diplomacy significantly!


  46. LibertyLover says:

    I wonder if “recess-appointed; never confirmed by the Senate UN ambassador” Bolton gets tired of talking out of both sides of his mouth.

    Why is he still on the airwaves? I don’t know of any other former ambassador that gets to parade themselves on the TV. Oh, never mind, I forgot we are talking about Faux Noise.


  47. ElBruce says:

    Let’s go ahead and parachute Bolton into Iran with a knife between his teeth and see what he can do to fix everything.


  48. the great GOPsby says:

    i get tired of hearing bush’s foreign policy failed. he intervened like any great flag-producing nation should do. the nostrils of democracy can whiff the fresh apples pies in the oven.


  49. the great GOPsby says:

    if obama makes one recess appointment his approval ratings will decrease 30 points.



  50. RantingTommy says:

    sound like the GOPsby is a giant pussy, scared of everything and needs the big ol’ military to protect him from phony threats


  51. pastcaring says:

    HANNITY: Barack Obama saying we’re meddling? This has nothing to do with us? It doesn’t matter which side wins? I’m thinking this — is that Reagan? Is that really what the people of Iran want from America?

    1. Reagan is dead…
    2. You cannot profess to know what Iranians want…given the results of the last election, you don’t even know what Americans want…
    3. STFU…


  52. katy says:

    And I don’t want America to be in a position where we urge people in the streets and then watch them die.

    you mean like pappy bush did, with the kurds in iraq?

    am i mistaken?


  53. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    the great GOPsby Says:

    i get tired of hearing bush’s foreign policy failed. he intervened like any great flag-producing nation should do. the nostrils of democracy can whiff the fresh apples pies in the oven.
    ____________

    I t’ink ya mighta mispoken dere, Li’l Feller…

    Didn’t you REALLY mean to say… ahem…

    “the nares of democracy can whiff the fresh ROAD apples of freedumb on the march…”????

    There… fixed… better, no? You can t’ank me later.


  54. the great GOPsby says:

    whats a phony threat little man?


  55. shoeless says:

    the great GOPsby Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    if obama makes one recess appointment his approval ratings will decrease 30 points.

    Oh no! Then he would only be 15 points higher than Bush!


  56. dasm says:

    Bolton is an obscene war-monger who lives & breathes for attacking other countries. It’s time to stop listening to his promotion of killing & violence.


  57. Purple State says:

    the great GOPsby Says:

    tell me liberals. what good is a military if we never use it? what good is our missiles and tanks and bombers and all the military r d if we keep everything dormant.

    What good is an ambulance if you’re not using it every second of the day? What use are the police and fire departments if they are not our fighting crime 24/7? Why have any emergency service if they are not being used all the time?

    The role of the military is not to seek out wars and conflicts and appease them. The role is to make sure that any emergency conflicts are appeased.

    And you do know that the military has peacekeeping roles too, right?


  58. Reggie says:

    There will never ever be such a thing as clean coal. Even if it was possible to store carbon emissions, coal will remain the dirties, least environmental friendly source of energy.

    1) Mountain-top removal mining is an environmental nightmare that leaves mining area disaster areas.

    2) Burning coal releases thousands of tons of toxic heavy metals

    3) Transporting coal is inefficient and consumes vast quantities of energy in the form of fossil fuels

    4) Millions of toxic fly-ash created by thermal electric generation has already been shown to be a disaster waiting to happen.


  59. tokin librul says:

    the great GOPsby Says:

    tell me liberals. what good is a military if we never use it? what good is our missiles and tanks and bombers and all the military r d if we keep everything dormant.

    ummmmm i’ll take a guess?

    Deterrence?


  60. RantingTommy says:

    the great GOPsby Says:

    whats a phony threat little man?

    the ones that have you peeing your pants and voting Republican


  61. joe cantwell says:

    somewhere out on the great

    appalachian trail a wolf is howling.

    :)


  62. the great GOPsby says:

    1. Reagan is dead…
    2. You cannot profess to know what Iranians want…given the results of the last election, you don’t even know what Americans want…
    3. STFU…
    —————————————————
    1. his grandfatherly spirit lives on.
    2. iranians are crying for freedom and they expect america to bring them their bobba. if theres no way to bring them freedom then they would know theres no one who can bring it to them and they would request that we bomb them so they can start over.
    3. BFF-FU!


  63. Reggie says:

    Sorry, my comment @63 was meant for another thread.


  64. RantingTommy says:

    GOP = Gang of Pussies

    always with the bluster to cover for their cowardice


  65. the great GOPsby says:

    tokin librul Says:

    ummmmm i’ll take a guess?

    Deterrence?

    ———————————

    building up a military and never using it is wasted freedom.


  66. tokin librul says:

    Reggie Says:
    There will never ever be such a thing as clean coal. Even if it was possible to store carbon emissions, coal will remain the dirties, least environmental friendly source of energy…

    O’course, you’re correct, Reggie.

    But there’s LOTS of money behind the myth, and basically all a myth needs to become reality is LOTS OF MONEY.

    And of course, also, a compliant, accommodating, presidential cheerleader, such as “thePrez” has been at least since the middle of the campaign when he needed the Ohio River vote.


  67. tokin librul says:

    1. his grandfatherly spirit lives on.

    I am now absolutely certain that Great GOPsby (a really clever nym) is a parody troll…


  68. the great GOPsby says:

    whiff … mmmm … fresh apple pie.


  69. LibertyLover says:

    joe cantwell Says:

    somewhere out on the great
    appalachian trail a wolf is howling.
    :)

    That wouldn’t happen to be Mark Sanford, would it?


  70. Exit Stage Left says:

    ElBruce Says:
    Let’s go ahead and parachute Bolton into Iran with a knife between his teeth and see what he can do to fix everything.

    Don’t forget his roll of duct tape and paper clip.


  71. LibertyLover says:

    Exit Stage Left Says:
    ElBruce Says:
    Let’s go ahead and parachute Bolton into Iran with a knife between his teeth and see what he can do to fix everything.

    Don’t forget his roll of duct tape and paper clip.

    And maybe his father’s watch stored in an available crevice.


  72. muzz says:

    There was a documentary on National Geographic last night “Iran and the West” – I’m sure it will be on again. If you watch that you will see how Bolton pretty much single-handedly wrecked an agreement the Europeans had worked on with Iran several years ago that could have changed the whole course of where they are now. He is nothing but a chicken-$hit chicken hawk – the more wars for the neo-cons, the better.


  73. Purple State says:

    the great GOPsby Says:

    building up a military and never using it is wasted freedom.

    Wasted freedom? How is it wasting freedom if you have the power to summon the most potent military in the world if a severe international crisis breaks?

    I’d call the conservation of military force and the ability to use it with the drop of a fascist hat the definition of freedom itself.


  74. A Patriotic Anopheles Acting says:

    I love watching the civil war happening right now within the GOP. On one hand you have the neocons. They bring war, failed international policies and the military complex to the party. On the other hand you have the pro-business, fiscal conservative…deregulating, failed domestic policies to the table. Both sides have strong opposing world views and it’s great to sit back and watch them go at themselves with their typical rabidity. The neocons haven’t seemed to notice that no one’s buying their war bullshit anymore and the fiscal cons haven’t seemed to notice that the Nation has moved beyond their corporate tax break, trickle down bullshit. The neocon dream of world domination, blathering bravado and using all of our weapons so we can make more way of life is dying an appropriate death. Bolton, Fleischer, Cheney, Kristol and now McCain somehow think that the world hasn’t finally woken up to see their abyssmal failures for what they are. I doubt the neocons will ever go fully extinct but at least they are now rightfully relegated to the short bus where they belong. Now we just have to find a way to keep them off of the “librul” airwaves.


  75. ralph the wonder locust says:

    tokin librul Says:
    1. his grandfatherly spirit lives on.

    I am now absolutely certain that Great GOPsby (a really clever nym) is a parody troll…

    Clearly.


  76. the great GOPsby says:

    if we didnt use the military we would need to lay everyone off except the officers. im not paying for people to do nothing! drop freedom’s cadburry eggs or go home!


  77. the great GOPsby says:

    i wouldn’t call it a civil war within the GOP as i would the refusal of unruly children to listen to what the wise have to say. the unruly (libs) once theyve calmed down will realize what the wise meant.


  78. gummble-bee-itch says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:

    tokin librul Says:
    1. his grandfatherly spirit lives on.

    I am now absolutely certain that Great GOPsby (a really clever nym) is a parody troll…

    Clearly.

    I think it’s a real troll and a common one. Pretty obvious from the first comment.


  79. RantingTommy says:

    gummble-bee-itch Says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:

    tokin librul Says:
    1. his grandfatherly spirit lives on.

    I am now absolutely certain that Great GOPsby (a really clever nym) is a parody troll…

    Clearly.

    I think it’s a real troll and a common one. Pretty obvious from the first comment.

    Either way, it doesn’t appear to be very bright


  80. pastcaring says:

    dasm Says:

    Bolton is an obscene war-monger who lives & breathes for attacking other countries. It’s time to stop listening to his promotion of killing & violence.

    Bolton was/is part of PNAC…what can you expect…


  81. kevsters says:

    Well, regardless of what Obama says, the right is going to hammer him. The right will simply make up false comparisons like Pence did with Reagan.

    Last night Rep. Darrell Issa tried to make a comparison between Iran and Tiananmen Square. The subsequent article, with clip debunks the claims Issa made.

    Here is the clip.

    http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=1919


  82. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Too bad we can’t capture the great GOPsby and dissect his brain so we can learn what causes the stupidity necessary to be a Republican.


  83. pastcaring says:

    Doodlebug Shayne Says:

    Too bad we can’t capture the great GOPsby and dissect his brain so we can learn what causes the stupidity necessary to be a Republican.

    No dissection required…it’s fear…often buried under varying layers of bull$h!t, depending on which specimen you are reviewing at the time…


  84. ralph the wonder locust says:

    gummble-bee-itch Says:
    ralph the wonder locust Says:

    tokin librul Says:
    I am now absolutely certain that Great GOPsby (a really clever nym) is a parody troll…

    Clearly.

    I think it’s a real troll and a common one. Pretty obvious from the first comment.

    Dayum. It’s gettin’ so’s you can’t tell the real ones from the fake, that’s how out there they’ve gotten themselves.


  85. darnay says:

    Bolton and Colonel Peters are both Knuckleheads.


  86. joe cantwell says:

    LibertyLover Says:
    joe cantwell Says:

    somewhere out on the great
    appalachian trail a wolf is howling.
    :)

    That wouldn’t happen to be Mark Sanford, would it?

    June 23rd, 2009 at 11:34 am

    he’s alive!

    :)


  87. mary lacewing says:

    I don’t trust Bolton. Nothing but total regime change will make him and his fellow neocons happy.

    from his latest AEI pub from June 15th:
    Iranians across the board must resolve to change not just the rules but the entire system, overthrowing the Revolution and its superstructure


  88. dbadass says:

    like any great flag-producing nation should do
    – I am assume you mean China.Isn’t that where all those trinket American flags are made?


  89. A Patriotic Anopheles Acting says:

    muzz Says:
    “There was a documentary on National Geographic last night “Iran and the West” – I’m sure it will be on again. If you watch that you will see how Bolton pretty much single-handedly wrecked an agreement the Europeans had worked on with Iran…”

    Muzz, do a little research and you will find former vice president Cheney’s daughter’s dirty finger prints all over this, right next to Bolton’s.

    “In April 2006, The New York Times published a story critical of Cheney’s work, particularly with respect to Iran. Of particular scrutiny was a grants program administered by Elizabeth Cheney’s unit, in collaboration with a Republican-affiliated foundation, the International Republican Institute.[17] The Times maintained that when the group became controversial, with critics saying that it was plotting covert actions that could escalate into war with Iran and Syria…”

    I know, it’s wikipedia but I was in a hurry. I’m sure their are plenty of other references for this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Cheney


  90. blackwidow says:

    I’m getting a bit annoyed with the Republican response to the Iranian election since we all know how they would have reacted if Americans took to the streets in mass numbers in 2000 or 2004 in response to Bush stealing the elections.
    All we have to do is see what happened at the RNC convention last year.


  91. blackwidow says:

    and why is anyone paying attention to the neo-cons?
    Jesus, these bas-tards cannot be trusted.


  92. A Patriotic Anopheles Acting says:

    Sorry O/T, but that squishy popping sound you hear is undoubtedly more GOP heads exploding as home sales are up for the second month in a row:
    http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&ned=us&ncl=dFpLcrgOXNvH_2MlsUn50q4qR5SBM&topic=b#articles


  93. hidflect says:

    If Bolton was an idiot I could forgive him somewhat. But he’s not. He very, very smart. And a sociopath also, unfortunately.


  94. A Patriotic Anopheles Acting says:

    hidflect Says:
    “He very, very smart.”

    I don’t know about that. An intelligent person is not wrong 100% of the time. A smart person doesn’t devolve into the inane blather that falls from this neocon’s mouth like a rabid dog when his foreign policy ideas are questioned. Bolton is just another “Right Wing Intellect” in the mold of Cheney, Gingrich and Krauthammer. They use big words and age-old rhetoric to try to sell their special brand of bullshit to college educated Republicans, corporate heads and the media. They are the elitists that they warn you about (projection). They WERE however very good at shoving their BS down America’s throat for decades. Now we live in the world of teh internets. Their lies are quickly and easily disproven and their hypocracies are just as rapidly shown. As the populace of Iran is experiencing and acting on a desire for change, and we see that the large majority of it’s citizens are of a younger generation hoping for freedoms and a promising future, so we saw a younger generation with a huge stake in the future of America step up and be heard this last November. The citizens of both nations are internet savvy and are much less apt to fall for the lies and fearmongering that their leaders have relied upon for far too long. Every lie these @ssholes utter is immediately available to be digested and shat back at them.


  95. jurassicpork says:

    We have to ask ourselves during this crisis in Iran: What have we learned from the Iranians?


  96. the great GOPsby says:

    A Patriotic Anopheles Acting Says:
    Sorry O/T, but that squishy popping sound you hear is undoubtedly more GOP heads exploding as home sales are up for the second month in a row:

    ————————————–

    yeah, big investors reelin’ em in! hahahah! did you think they were being sold to ditzy chicks with nothing more than a exceeded credit limit to their name?


  97. pags2 says:

    A Patriotic Anopheles Acting Says:

    “I I doubt the neocons will ever go fully extinct but at least they are now rightfully relegated to the short bus where they belong. Now we just have to find a way to keep them off of the “librul” airwaves.”

    Quite the opposite is true. The more media coverage that Bolton and the rest of the neocons are given, the more they make fools of themselves. It is good for the public to see their statements because they are the best ad for voting Dem.


  98. nynick says:

    What these armchair generals like Bolton and Cheney don’t ever admit is our misadventure in Iraq made Iran into the super-regional power they are today. There is a direct correlation. Before we invaded and occupied Iraq, Iran was under pressure from within and an obscure minor player in international affairs. Invading Iraq let the Shi’ite genie out of the bottle. They quickly took advantage of their position both regionally and beyond. Europe, Russia and China quickly became key trading partners as they seeked an alternative to Iraq’s oil supplies. They armed the insurgents and created a web of influence that now stretches from Afghanistan to Dubai. We spent billions of dollars and gallons of blood to remove Saddam because he supposedly had contacts with terror networks and was seeking WMD’s. Meanwhile, Iran has a thirty year history of exporting terror and was well on their way to building a nuclear bomb. I would love to hear Bolton or any of the other neocon hawks address their complicity in creating the current situation in Iran. I won’t however hold my breath.


  99. eyeswideopen1 says:

    why why why do these people still have jobs. Why are they all over the airwaves. Why why why? They have no credibility. A 5yo can google their history and discredit everything they say.


  100. delafield says:

    If Bolton wants to attack Iran then he should pick up a rifle and get his butt over there. And after they capture him, I hope they waterboard him 180 times every month.


  101. MapleStreet says:

    from a man who wanted Obama to launch “meaningful efforts at regime change” just a few months ago…..

    Was the use of “to launch” (as could be said of missles) some sort of Freudian slip ?


  102. piltdown says:

    I guess Bolton just wants Obama to be more like Reagan.

    You know, ship them some missiles.


  103. Rodeskawler says:

    So, Obama needs to be aggressively prudent. I think he is already there, for the most part, when it comes to foreign affairs as far as I can tell.


  104. Alec Mento says:

    The boldest, smartest, awesomest, most excellentest Administration (sic) ever “did not prepare adequately for this potential revolutionary moment”? I thought they knew everything about past, present, future — and everything else! I thought they were the reality creators! I’m shocked, shocked!


  105. jrfunkenstein says:

    ‘carter signed a peace accord that never worked and led to more violence. using our weaponry promotes structure and order and discipline.’

    Riiighhhht…..that worked out great in Vietnam and Iraq.

    War is peace; another great GOP strategy.


  106. jrfunkenstein says:

    ‘building up a military and never using it is wasted freedom.’

    Ohh….now I get it; you’re just insanely stupid.




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