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	<title>Comments on: Rep. Neugebauer: &#8216;I Don&#8217;t Know&#8217; If Obama Is A Citizen</title>
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		<title>By: SamOSewell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5706784</link>
		<dc:creator>SamOSewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How else to explain the current situation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do some research.  How it happened isn&#039;t anything like what you guess.

Start here:&lt;strong&gt;Please get this straight: AKA Obama birth not vetted&lt;/strong&gt;
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/please-get-this-straight-aka-obama.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/please-get-this-straight-aka-obama.html&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Conservatives are enemies of the government. Liberals are enemies of the nation because they are not enemies of the government.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How else to explain the current situation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do some research.  How it happened isn&#8217;t anything like what you guess.</p>
<p>Start here:<strong>Please get this straight: AKA Obama birth not vetted</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/please-get-this-straight-aka-obama.html" rel="nofollow">http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/please-get-this-straight-aka-obama.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Conservatives are enemies of the government. Liberals are enemies of the nation because they are not enemies of the government.&#8221;<br />
Aristotle the Hun<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5706784', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SamOSewell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5706780</link>
		<dc:creator>SamOSewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;FOR THE DEMOCRACKADDICTS THAT DON&#039;T THINK I HAVE $10,000.00. FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS AT OBAMAS BIRTH.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your money will never be dispersed because AKA Obama wasn&#039;t born in Hawaii.

which is most likely;
(a) AKA OBAMA is hiding documents that are innocuous? 
(b) AKA OBAMA is hiding documents that are damaging?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>FOR THE DEMOCRACKADDICTS THAT DON&#8217;T THINK I HAVE $10,000.00. FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS AT OBAMAS BIRTH.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your money will never be dispersed because AKA Obama wasn&#8217;t born in Hawaii.</p>
<p>which is most likely;<br />
(a) AKA OBAMA is hiding documents that are innocuous?<br />
(b) AKA OBAMA is hiding documents that are damaging?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5706780', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SamOSewell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5706777</link>
		<dc:creator>SamOSewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Obama’s Presidential Eligibility: What You Need to Know&lt;/strong&gt;

Mostly facts and very little rhetoric, all cited. This is how research should be done.

&lt;strong&gt;Now what will the Obot PSYOPS agents do?&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Let me Guess; ridicule, name calling, personal attacks and changing the subject.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6216&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6216&lt;/a&gt;

Validated Facts on Obama Eligibility Story Updated and Expanded 

If you read the articles at the link and review the citations at the embedded links, you will be “literate” about the facts of the “eligibility” story and will be able to inform the public objectively. 

&lt;strong&gt;AKA Obama Fans: All together now – say OMG!!&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-obama-fans-all-together-now-say-omg.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-obama-fans-all-together-now-say-omg.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Obama’s Presidential Eligibility: What You Need to Know</strong></p>
<p>Mostly facts and very little rhetoric, all cited. This is how research should be done.</p>
<p><strong>Now what will the Obot PSYOPS agents do?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Let me Guess; ridicule, name calling, personal attacks and changing the subject.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6216" rel="nofollow">http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6216</a></p>
<p>Validated Facts on Obama Eligibility Story Updated and Expanded </p>
<p>If you read the articles at the link and review the citations at the embedded links, you will be “literate” about the facts of the “eligibility” story and will be able to inform the public objectively. </p>
<p><strong>AKA Obama Fans: All together now – say OMG!!</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-obama-fans-all-together-now-say-omg.html" rel="nofollow">http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-obama-fans-all-together-now-say-omg.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5706777', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: obaminator</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5704082</link>
		<dc:creator>obaminator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ONCE AGAIN THE ABOVE POST SHOW HOW STUPID DEMOCRATS ARE.
DID YOU WORK IN THE HOSPITAL IN THE 1960&#039;S?
IF YOU DID THE BELOW DOCUMENT WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN.
NOT A LASER PRINTED COLB.
I WAS BORN IN HAWAII IN 1960&#039;S AND I AS WELL AS ALL OF MY CLASSMATES BORN IN THE 1960&#039;S ALL HAVE COLB THAT WERE TYPED NOT LASER PRINTED.
MAAM I AM TRULY CONCERNED THAT YOU PRACTICE NURSING.
I&#039;LL BET YOU BELIEVE THAT A PLACEBO IS AS GOOD AS THE REAL DRUG TOO!
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=101483</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ONCE AGAIN THE ABOVE POST SHOW HOW STUPID DEMOCRATS ARE.<br />
DID YOU WORK IN THE HOSPITAL IN THE 1960&#8242;S?<br />
IF YOU DID THE BELOW DOCUMENT WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN.<br />
NOT A LASER PRINTED COLB.<br />
I WAS BORN IN HAWAII IN 1960&#8242;S AND I AS WELL AS ALL OF MY CLASSMATES BORN IN THE 1960&#8242;S ALL HAVE COLB THAT WERE TYPED NOT LASER PRINTED.<br />
MAAM I AM TRULY CONCERNED THAT YOU PRACTICE NURSING.<br />
I&#8217;LL BET YOU BELIEVE THAT A PLACEBO IS AS GOOD AS THE REAL DRUG TOO!<br />
<a href="http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=101483" rel="nofollow">http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=101483</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5704082', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mari2RR</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5703203</link>
		<dc:creator>mari2RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I lived in Hawaii I worked as a RN.  I actually worked in Labor and Delivery and lately, I have found out that one of the nurses that I met while working there had personally been present when Obama was born in Hawaii.  Nr. Obama&#039;s birth certificate is readily available on the net and is easily accessed. It truly makes me giggle to hear all this stupidity about this issue but is just another reason why I have left the Republican Party.  Obviously, Republicans could not beat Obama at the ballot box after raising this issues so they now resort to this stupidity.  But alas. their stupidity or just pure racism is so obvious that it becomes so detrimental to Republicans.  This would be laughable if it were not so stupidly serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I lived in Hawaii I worked as a RN.  I actually worked in Labor and Delivery and lately, I have found out that one of the nurses that I met while working there had personally been present when Obama was born in Hawaii.  Nr. Obama&#8217;s birth certificate is readily available on the net and is easily accessed. It truly makes me giggle to hear all this stupidity about this issue but is just another reason why I have left the Republican Party.  Obviously, Republicans could not beat Obama at the ballot box after raising this issues so they now resort to this stupidity.  But alas. their stupidity or just pure racism is so obvious that it becomes so detrimental to Republicans.  This would be laughable if it were not so stupidly serious.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5703203', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: obaminator</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5701391</link>
		<dc:creator>obaminator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOR THE DEMOCRACKADDICTS THAT DON&#039;T THINK I HAVE $10,000.00. FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS AT OBAMAS BIRTH.
I WILL HAVE THE $10,000 PLACED IN ESCROW WITH THE LAW FIRM OF YOUR CHOOSING AND ORDER IT DISPERSED UPON PRESENTED PROOF.
I HAVE NO WORRIES. ONE ONLY HAS TO LOOK AT DIFFERENCES IN A REAL COLB AND A FAKE ONE.

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=101483

ALSO FOR THOSE WHO SAY THIS IS A RACIST ISSUE. I WILL SAY AGAIN.
OBAMA IS NOT BLACK. HIS MOTHER WAS WHITE SO HE CANNOT BE BLACK.
EVEN IF HE WERE BLACK HIS BIGGEST ADVERSARIES ARE REAL BLACK MEN.
HE IS A MIXED RACE OR MUTT. 
LEARN IT, BELIEVE IT, LIVE IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR THE DEMOCRACKADDICTS THAT DON&#8217;T THINK I HAVE $10,000.00. FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS AT OBAMAS BIRTH.<br />
I WILL HAVE THE $10,000 PLACED IN ESCROW WITH THE LAW FIRM OF YOUR CHOOSING AND ORDER IT DISPERSED UPON PRESENTED PROOF.<br />
I HAVE NO WORRIES. ONE ONLY HAS TO LOOK AT DIFFERENCES IN A REAL COLB AND A FAKE ONE.</p>
<p><a href="http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=101483" rel="nofollow">http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=101483</a></p>
<p>ALSO FOR THOSE WHO SAY THIS IS A RACIST ISSUE. I WILL SAY AGAIN.<br />
OBAMA IS NOT BLACK. HIS MOTHER WAS WHITE SO HE CANNOT BE BLACK.<br />
EVEN IF HE WERE BLACK HIS BIGGEST ADVERSARIES ARE REAL BLACK MEN.<br />
HE IS A MIXED RACE OR MUTT.<br />
LEARN IT, BELIEVE IT, LIVE IT.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5701391', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: IamTruth</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5701194</link>
		<dc:creator>IamTruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people who elected Neugebauer really need to question their own intelligence.  Imagine what they are suggesting; a conspiracy to have a citizen of Kenya elected  POTUS was devised in the early &#039;60&#039;s whereby a fictitious birth announcement was placed in a Hawaiian newspaper and a corresponding birth certificate was created and certified by Hawaiian authorities.  Then 47 years passed during which this future POTUS was groomed by his maternal grandparents to take over the office of the most powerful man in the world.  Of course this happened.  How else to explain the current situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who elected Neugebauer really need to question their own intelligence.  Imagine what they are suggesting; a conspiracy to have a citizen of Kenya elected  POTUS was devised in the early &#8217;60&#8217;s whereby a fictitious birth announcement was placed in a Hawaiian newspaper and a corresponding birth certificate was created and certified by Hawaiian authorities.  Then 47 years passed during which this future POTUS was groomed by his maternal grandparents to take over the office of the most powerful man in the world.  Of course this happened.  How else to explain the current situation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5701194', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: thomas mc</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5700525</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if Republicans are actually human beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if Republicans are actually human beings.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5700525', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark8</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5700450</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Birther movement&quot; is the Right&#039;s political invention designed to propagandize the so-called &quot;foreignness&quot; of President Obama.  

Republicans don&#039;t really care about this bill - they know it will never become law.  Its purpose is to bear fruit later - that is, to spin a tale that makes racism and xenophobia taste good without all those nasty calories.  Racism Lite.

The Right wants to make race a campaign issue in the next Presidential election but they can not afford to be seen as overtly racist.  So, they are trying to move the chess pieces now so that race by another name (&quot;He&#039;s foreign!&quot;) can be an issue in the next Presidential election under the disguise of an innocent and wholesome pride in our uniquely American respect for law and order, i.e., our Constitution.   

It will be racism disguised as law and order, disguised as nativism (which the Right I guess sees as palatable to its constituency and morally OK to them), disguised as the aw shucks innocence of a 5 year old child.  Its message will be &quot;we are innocent, pure, wholesome, law-abiding American godliness.  They are foreign devils who lie.&quot;

Sophisticated propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Birther movement&#8221; is the Right&#8217;s political invention designed to propagandize the so-called &#8220;foreignness&#8221; of President Obama.  </p>
<p>Republicans don&#8217;t really care about this bill &#8211; they know it will never become law.  Its purpose is to bear fruit later &#8211; that is, to spin a tale that makes racism and xenophobia taste good without all those nasty calories.  Racism Lite.</p>
<p>The Right wants to make race a campaign issue in the next Presidential election but they can not afford to be seen as overtly racist.  So, they are trying to move the chess pieces now so that race by another name (&#8221;He&#8217;s foreign!&#8221;) can be an issue in the next Presidential election under the disguise of an innocent and wholesome pride in our uniquely American respect for law and order, i.e., our Constitution.   </p>
<p>It will be racism disguised as law and order, disguised as nativism (which the Right I guess sees as palatable to its constituency and morally OK to them), disguised as the aw shucks innocence of a 5 year old child.  Its message will be &#8220;we are innocent, pure, wholesome, law-abiding American godliness.  They are foreign devils who lie.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sophisticated propaganda.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5700450', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: NutWrench</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5700254</link>
		<dc:creator>NutWrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only Mr Neugebauer had a competent staff that could find things out for him. You never know when an objective fact could come in handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only Mr Neugebauer had a competent staff that could find things out for him. You never know when an objective fact could come in handy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5700254', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kasinca</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5700098</link>
		<dc:creator>kasinca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure this wingnut or others who claim the president is not a citizen are human.  They may be aliens from outerspace for all I know.  Now if they had to furnish credentials to run for office, they may be.  I assume that President Obama has satified the requirements in the State of IL and with the FEC.  Why are these bigots wasting valuable time on something that has been debunked several times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure this wingnut or others who claim the president is not a citizen are human.  They may be aliens from outerspace for all I know.  Now if they had to furnish credentials to run for office, they may be.  I assume that President Obama has satified the requirements in the State of IL and with the FEC.  Why are these bigots wasting valuable time on something that has been debunked several times.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5700098', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: southtpa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5700067</link>
		<dc:creator>southtpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something interesting about all this. Within the homeland security laws there is something called a Transportation Workers Identity Card. If you are a natural born citizen then you can show the simplest forms of ID drivers license and social security card. Presumably Obama can do this. It is for certain McCain cannot because he is not a .......&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something interesting about all this. Within the homeland security laws there is something called a Transportation Workers Identity Card. If you are a natural born citizen then you can show the simplest forms of ID drivers license and social security card. Presumably Obama can do this. It is for certain McCain cannot because he is not a &#8230;&#8230;.<strong></strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5700067', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: lvdragonlady</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5700058</link>
		<dc:creator>lvdragonlady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GOP should just admit to the American people that they are very very upset about losing the election to a black man and get on with it. 
These kind of actions are so pathetic it is hard to believe that so called &#039;intelligent&#039; people keep pushing this.  It show disrespect for the American election process and the American people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP should just admit to the American people that they are very very upset about losing the election to a black man and get on with it.<br />
These kind of actions are so pathetic it is hard to believe that so called &#8216;intelligent&#8217; people keep pushing this.  It show disrespect for the American election process and the American people.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5700058', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark701</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5700030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how the trolls love to overlook the obvious. Let&#039;s look at this nonsense about Obama not being an American citizen.

The United States spends about 100 billion annually on three major intelligence and law enforcement agencies, the CIA, FBI and NSA. One would think that if Obama&#039;s birth certificate was phony and he was born in another country at least one of those agencies would have figured it out during the elections and released the information, especially in light of the fact that Republicans turned it into an issue. It didn&#039;t happen because Obama&#039;s birth certificate is legitimate (and don&#039;t think for one second that these agencies didn&#039;t check it out). To rational and sane people that should alleviate any concerns about Obama&#039;s citizenship. 

However, as we all know, many conservatives are not driven by rationality or common sense, rather by anger, fear, xenophobia, bigotry and hatred anyone or anything that refuses to accept their twisted view of reality. On their own these people would be of no concern. However, when their fear, ignorance and suspicion are amplified and legitimized by main stream media outlets like FOX &quot;News&quot; it becomes a problem. 

Make no mistake, that the inability of progressives and conservative to speak to each other is largely the result of crazies like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Savage and a host of other self serving entertainers who make hundreds of millions of dollars off their viewers fear and loathing. It is a crystal clear example of how corporate backed cronies destroy the discourse that is necessary for democracy to function, and these corporations could give a rats ass as long as they are pulling in the bucks. Welcome to America 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how the trolls love to overlook the obvious. Let&#8217;s look at this nonsense about Obama not being an American citizen.</p>
<p>The United States spends about 100 billion annually on three major intelligence and law enforcement agencies, the CIA, FBI and NSA. One would think that if Obama&#8217;s birth certificate was phony and he was born in another country at least one of those agencies would have figured it out during the elections and released the information, especially in light of the fact that Republicans turned it into an issue. It didn&#8217;t happen because Obama&#8217;s birth certificate is legitimate (and don&#8217;t think for one second that these agencies didn&#8217;t check it out). To rational and sane people that should alleviate any concerns about Obama&#8217;s citizenship. </p>
<p>However, as we all know, many conservatives are not driven by rationality or common sense, rather by anger, fear, xenophobia, bigotry and hatred anyone or anything that refuses to accept their twisted view of reality. On their own these people would be of no concern. However, when their fear, ignorance and suspicion are amplified and legitimized by main stream media outlets like FOX &#8220;News&#8221; it becomes a problem. </p>
<p>Make no mistake, that the inability of progressives and conservative to speak to each other is largely the result of crazies like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Savage and a host of other self serving entertainers who make hundreds of millions of dollars off their viewers fear and loathing. It is a crystal clear example of how corporate backed cronies destroy the discourse that is necessary for democracy to function, and these corporations could give a rats ass as long as they are pulling in the bucks. Welcome to America 2009.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5700030', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Undecided</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5700020</link>
		<dc:creator>Undecided</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this age of “in God we trust, everyone else must provide data” I’m surprised that dropping your birth certificate off at the Fed Election Commission and anything else that confirms eligibility is not already a pre-requisite to run for office.  It stops all this BS in its tracks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this age of “in God we trust, everyone else must provide data” I’m surprised that dropping your birth certificate off at the Fed Election Commission and anything else that confirms eligibility is not already a pre-requisite to run for office.  It stops all this BS in its tracks<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5700020', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Angry McAngus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5699922</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry McAngus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, should be &quot;photos of him or her self&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, should be &#8220;photos of him or her self&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5699922', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Angry McAngus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5699921</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry McAngus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obaminator says: 
&lt;em&gt;AND FINALLY I AM OFFERING A $10,000 REWARD FOR ANYONE THAT CAN PROVE THAT THEY WERE AT OBAMAS BIRTH IN HAWAII.
THIS CAN BE ANYONE. DOCTOR, NURSE,FRIEND, ANYONE.
REQUIREMENTS ARE:
YOU WILL HAVE PHOTOS OF YOU AT THE BIRTH WITH PROOF IT WAS IN HAWAII.&lt;/em&gt;

Delusions of grandeur.  You don&#039;t have $10,000 and you know that no one is going to have photos of him or her at a birth 40 some odd years ago that can be verified.

So this is just more posturing by irrational racists who believe that Will overcomes Reason.  If they Will something, by sheer force of effort, they will overcome Reason.

Pathetic.  Get some help.  Find out how to learn to deal with the fact that you&#039;ve been lied to and manipulated your whole life.  Do some constructive with the anger that comes from that realization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obaminator says:<br />
<em>AND FINALLY I AM OFFERING A $10,000 REWARD FOR ANYONE THAT CAN PROVE THAT THEY WERE AT OBAMAS BIRTH IN HAWAII.<br />
THIS CAN BE ANYONE. DOCTOR, NURSE,FRIEND, ANYONE.<br />
REQUIREMENTS ARE:<br />
YOU WILL HAVE PHOTOS OF YOU AT THE BIRTH WITH PROOF IT WAS IN HAWAII.</em></p>
<p>Delusions of grandeur.  You don&#8217;t have $10,000 and you know that no one is going to have photos of him or her at a birth 40 some odd years ago that can be verified.</p>
<p>So this is just more posturing by irrational racists who believe that Will overcomes Reason.  If they Will something, by sheer force of effort, they will overcome Reason.</p>
<p>Pathetic.  Get some help.  Find out how to learn to deal with the fact that you&#8217;ve been lied to and manipulated your whole life.  Do some constructive with the anger that comes from that realization.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5699921', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: smidget</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5699868</link>
		<dc:creator>smidget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people are so far gone, I&#039;m not sure that there is a solution other than civil commitment.  That sounds harsh, I&#039;m sure, but anyone that is either this crazy or this stupid is clearly a danger to themselves and/or others. What if they were to come across something pointy?  They may hurt themselves.

I&#039;m not sure if I qualify, but I&#039;d like to add myself to the list. I&#039;m not a fan of telling people to STFU, but I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve told it to simply &quot;shut up&quot; on at least one occassion....or maybe that was another troll.  It&#039;s so hard to keep them straight.

Anywho.
1) dbadass
2) tony and lido
3) Reggie
4) ralph
5) angels81
6) joe cantwell
7) Shadowboxer
8) pastcaring
9) shayne
10) gummitch
11) StratRat
12)vinylspear
13) toasterhead
14) RUC
15) Game of Life
16) Gregor Samsa
17) Pachydiplax de St. Augustine
18) Buckie Boy
19) Zooey
20) wiley
21) hormiga brava chavez
22) Dr. Matt
23) Leftside Annie
24) missmolly
25) smidget</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people are so far gone, I&#8217;m not sure that there is a solution other than civil commitment.  That sounds harsh, I&#8217;m sure, but anyone that is either this crazy or this stupid is clearly a danger to themselves and/or others. What if they were to come across something pointy?  They may hurt themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I qualify, but I&#8217;d like to add myself to the list. I&#8217;m not a fan of telling people to STFU, but I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve told it to simply &#8220;shut up&#8221; on at least one occassion&#8230;.or maybe that was another troll.  It&#8217;s so hard to keep them straight.</p>
<p>Anywho.<br />
1) dbadass<br />
2) tony and lido<br />
3) Reggie<br />
4) ralph<br />
5) angels81<br />
6) joe cantwell<br />
7) Shadowboxer<br />
8) pastcaring<br />
9) shayne<br />
10) gummitch<br />
11) StratRat<br />
12)vinylspear<br />
13) toasterhead<br />
14) RUC<br />
15) Game of Life<br />
16) Gregor Samsa<br />
17) Pachydiplax de St. Augustine<br />
18) Buckie Boy<br />
19) Zooey<br />
20) wiley<br />
21) hormiga brava chavez<br />
22) Dr. Matt<br />
23) Leftside Annie<br />
24) missmolly<br />
25) smidget<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5699868', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: misscoleopteramolly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/23/gop-birther-bill/comment-page-4/#comment-5699851</link>
		<dc:creator>misscoleopteramolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robt Says
June 24th, 2009 at 4:09 am 

And how does anyone know that he isn&#039;t an American citizen himself?

HMMMMM?
__________________________________________________________

Exactly. We should demand Rep. Randy Neugebauer&#039;s birth certificate -- the original certificate -- and then if he produces it, promptly declare it to be a forgery.  Then start a blog whispering campaign that suggests Neugebauer is a member of a terrorist sleeper cell that will ultimately bring down our government.

Sound absurd?  It is!  Yet this is what the &quot;birthers&quot; apparently live for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robt Says<br />
June 24th, 2009 at 4:09 am </p>
<p>And how does anyone know that he isn&#8217;t an American citizen himself?</p>
<p>HMMMMM?<br />
__________________________________________________________</p>
<p>Exactly. We should demand Rep. Randy Neugebauer&#8217;s birth certificate &#8212; the original certificate &#8212; and then if he produces it, promptly declare it to be a forgery.  Then start a blog whispering campaign that suggests Neugebauer is a member of a terrorist sleeper cell that will ultimately bring down our government.</p>
<p>Sound absurd?  It is!  Yet this is what the &#8220;birthers&#8221; apparently live for.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5699851', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: misscoleopteramolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>misscoleopteramolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ralph the wonder locust Says
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

Fair enough, missmolly.

A few regulars have declined to sign, and that is fine.

Please be advised, however, that it is not strictly a STFU list. It&#039;s just a list of those who have reached the point of suggesting Another Joe knock it off with his trolling.
_________________________________________________________

OK -- in that case, I&#039;m in.

1) dbadass
2) tony and lido
3) Reggie
4) ralph
5) angels81
6) joe cantwell
7) Shadowboxer
8) pastcaring
9) shayne
10) gummitch
11) StratRat
12)vinylspear
13) toasterhead
14) RUC
15) Game of Life
16) Gregor Samsa
17) Pachydiplax de St. Augustine
18) Buckie Boy
19) Zooey
20) wiley
21) hormiga brava chavez
22) Dr. Matt
23) Leftside Annie
24) missmolly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ralph the wonder locust Says<br />
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm</p>
<p>Fair enough, missmolly.</p>
<p>A few regulars have declined to sign, and that is fine.</p>
<p>Please be advised, however, that it is not strictly a STFU list. It&#8217;s just a list of those who have reached the point of suggesting Another Joe knock it off with his trolling.<br />
_________________________________________________________</p>
<p>OK &#8212; in that case, I&#8217;m in.</p>
<p>1) dbadass<br />
2) tony and lido<br />
3) Reggie<br />
4) ralph<br />
5) angels81<br />
6) joe cantwell<br />
7) Shadowboxer<br />
8) pastcaring<br />
9) shayne<br />
10) gummitch<br />
11) StratRat<br />
12)vinylspear<br />
13) toasterhead<br />
14) RUC<br />
15) Game of Life<br />
16) Gregor Samsa<br />
17) Pachydiplax de St. Augustine<br />
18) Buckie Boy<br />
19) Zooey<br />
20) wiley<br />
21) hormiga brava chavez<br />
22) Dr. Matt<br />
23) Leftside Annie<br />
24) missmolly<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5699845', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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