Obama questions legitimacy of Iranian elections, says it is ‘up to the Iranian people to decide’ their leadership.
Obama questions legitimacy of Iranian elections, says it is ‘up to the Iranian people to decide’ their leadership.
At this afternoon’s press conference, President Obama called on Huffington Post national editor (and TP alum) Nico Pitney, who has been aggregating and reporting valuable information coming out of Iran. Earlier today, Nico told his readers, “If I get called, I want to ask a question that comes directly from an Iranian.” Obama prompted Nico’s question, saying, “I know there may actually be questions from people in Iran who are communicating through the Internet. Do you have a question?” Nico posed this query from an Iranian to the President:
PITNEY: Under which conditions would you accept the election of Ahmadinejad? And if you do accept it without any significant changes in the conditions there, isn’t that a betrayal of — of what the demonstrators there are working to achieve?
Obama responded that there are “significant questions about the legitimacy of the election.” He added:
OBAMA: Ultimately, the most important thing for the Iranian government to consider is legitimacy in the eyes of its own people, not in the eyes of the United States. And that’s why I’ve been very clear, ultimately, this is up to the Iranian people to decide who their leadership is going to be and the structure of their government.
Watch it:
Transcript:
OBAMA: Since we’re on Iran, I know Nico Pitney is here from the Huffington Post.
QUESTION: Thank you, Mr. President.
OBAMA: Nico, I know that you and all across the Internet, we’ve been seeing a lot of reports coming directly out of Iran. I know that there may actually be questions from people in Iran who are communicating through the Internet. Do you have a question?
QUESTION: Yes, I did, but I wanted to use this opportunity to ask you a question directly from an Iranian. We solicited questions on tonight from people who are still courageous enough to be communicating online. And one of them wanted to ask you this: Under which conditions would you accept the election of Ahmadinejad? And if you do accept it without any significant changes in the conditions there, isn’t that a betrayal of — of what the demonstrators there are working to achieve?
OBAMA: Well, look, we didn’t have international observers on the ground. We can’t say definitively what exactly happened at polling places throughout the country.
What we know is that a sizable percentage of the Iranian people themselves, spanning Iranian society, consider this election illegitimate. It’s not an isolated instance, a little grumbling here or there. There is significant questions about the legitimacy of the election.
And so, ultimately, the most important thing for the Iranian government to consider is legitimacy in the eyes of its own people, not in the eyes of the United States.
And that’s why I’ve been very clear, ultimately, this is up to the Iranian people to decide who their leadership is going to be and the structure of their government.
What we can do is to say, unequivocally, that there are sets of international norms and principles about violence, about dealing with the peaceful dissent, that — that spans cultures, spans borders.
And what we’ve been seeing over the Internet and what we’ve been seeing in news reports violates those norms and violates those principles.
I think it is not too late for the Iranian government to recognize that — that there is a peaceful path that will lead to stability and legitimacy and prosperity for the Iranian people. We hope they take it.
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In other words, it’s not up to Obama to “accept” the election results.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:39 pmThat statement won’t be good enough for McCain and Graham. Anything short of threatening to invade Iran will never be enough. But, for anyone who isn’t a warmonger, President Obama’s words were a perfect blend of respecting Iran’s sovereignty and supporting the people of Iran who have the courage to protest the election.
I hope that the people in this country are learning from the people of Iran and might learn to stand up for what we think is right. I know that there is a movement afoot to start rallies around health care reform. I will be attending a rally Wednesday afternoon in Corvallis organized by my Unitarian Church. Hopefully people across this country will get out in numbers too big to ignore to have our say about reforming our broken health care system.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm.
… Just like how America decided their 2000 elections?
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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pmHow many countries in the world can you say that the people actually chose their leaders?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pmI watched this presser live , and the lack of respect and rudeness of the idiots in the MSM toward Obama was reprehensible and down-right sorry ; they never treated Bush anywhere near this disrespectfully , even though he was an unintelligible imbecile and lying moron……..
What an absolute disgrace ………..
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:45 pmsend in special forces, capture amdijonad, charge him with multiple counts, and sentence him to old fashion american justice. i want that shithead to be america’s 2009 pinata.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 pmThat may have been the best presser ever.
Just a reminder that if you dis-respect this President you will be pwned.
In public.
On national TV.
and once again Major Garrett was called on so he could show what a tool he is.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 pmthe great GOPsby Says:
send in special forces,
Where?
capture amdijonad,
Who’s that?
charge him with multiple counts,
Of what?
and sentence him to old fashion american justice.
For violating what old fashion American law?
i want that shithead to be america’s 2009 pinata.
What’s a pinata?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 pmlooks like it’s time for GOPansy’s nap
it’s also time for OFnF on him
do I have a second?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:52 pmthe great GOPsby Says:
send in special forces, capture amdijonad, charge him with multiple counts, and sentence him to old fashion american justice. i want that shithead to be america’s 2009 pinata.
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And as a result you get what? The Iranian people will still not be able to elect a new leader (he has to be confirmed by the Ayatollah). The government of Iran will not change. And we will be seen once again as meddling in the government of another country. Besides, every political party in Iraq originated in Iran. When the election results in Iran were announced, President Jalal Talabani called to congratulate Ahmadinejad. So, essentially, all OIF did was make Iran tremendously stronger and give it a huge ally in the region.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pmSeconded
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pmhttp://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/Obama_calls_on_HuffPost_for_Iran_question.html
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm“Only I am the President of the United States”. Obama (in presser)
Take that John McCain and your lap dog Lindsay.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pmmaybe pretend guy with the melonhead should get back to us when he learns some English…
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pmNor in the eyes of treasonous reighwingers
P.S. Thirded
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 pmJohnM Says:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/I_think_Muslims_are_non-human.html
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
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Your point being?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pmI have no problem with reporters being “hard” on the President at a presser. That should be the role of a responsible press. And this President is up to the task as he demonstrated today.
I agree that the press seldom was as hard on GDumbya. However, I think that’s because they didn’t want to watch him melt down in front of the American people. We all knew that we had a dolt in the Oval Office for those eight years but we really didn’t want to be reminded of it in such a graphic way.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pmOBAMA: Ultimately, the most important thing for the Iranian government to consider is legitimacy in the eyes of its own people, not in the eyes of the United States.
Hey , Supreme Court Justices ; are you listening/paying attention , jackasses ?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pmRantingTommy Says:
looks like it’s time for GOPansy’s nap
it’s also time for OFnF on him
do I have a second?
You had mine by the second comment it made. Why even ask?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pmhis point is that he’s an ignorant bigot that is afraid of his own shadow (because it’s not white)
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pmOFnF
what’s that?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pmChris LeJeune Says:
Besides, every political party in Iraq originated in Iran.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
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I thought the Dawa party originated in Kuwait, but I could be wrong about that…
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pmjust bringing others into the fold, man
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/I_think_Muslims_are_non-human.html
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
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Your point being?
No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
JohnM Says:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/I_think_Muslims_are_non-human.html
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pmwhy not simply capture ahmedinijad? it’s an easy call for a serious problem!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pmYou ditto heads are all equally ignorant. Anybody who knows anything knows Nico Pitney has been live blogging on Iran for days. He would of course seem a good person to ask such a question. Get an effing clue.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pmyay nico!
i gave him a shout-out here when i first saw him on
rachel maddow last week…
great work!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:06 pmJohnM Says:
No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:06 pmMaybe because they were…lapdogs…
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:06 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
JohnM Says:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/I_think_Muslims_are_non-human.html
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
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Your point being?
Oops. Pushed the wrong button.
Ahem.
I think JohnM wanted everyone to read the truly revolting comments that followed the post. All those people suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:07 pmhe’s giving himself 2-1 votes. johnM would agree with me that he needs to be imprisoned in a U.S. brig for what he’s doing to these people. our wonderful military code of justice will handle him from there. stupid iranian rag doll.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:07 pmDoodlebug Shayne says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:07 pmTo get a clue they first have to have a brain.
chiroptera toasterhead Says:
I thought the Dawa party originated in Kuwait, but I could be wrong about that…
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I’ve written a little about it on VetVoice – check it out if you’re interested:
http://vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1806
http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1182
http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2888
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
You ditto heads are all equally ignorant. Anybody who knows anything knows Nico Pitney has been live blogging on Iran for days. He would of course seem a good person to ask such a question. Get an effing clue.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
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I can’t blane Fingersnips McGee all that much – after eight years of Bush, he probably just can’t grasp the concept of a President who reads.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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You figured wrong.
I know that you like your information filtered through this website, but I would expect that other people here occasionally venture out of the friendly confines of thinkprogress to get another perspective. I’m not surprised that you don’t find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pmActually they can get a clue, but only if the clue had cheeto dust all over it…see, they got ta sniff it out….
:|
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pmJohnM Says:
No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Michael Calderone is neither relevant nor interesting , jackass ; in fact , he’s not even mildly credible , so stop posting links to absolute bullshit……..
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pmOFnF is in effect on GOPansy
also, these trolls have been demoted due to their ineffectiveness to gnats
GOP = Gnats On Parade
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JohnM Says:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/I_think_Muslims_are_non-human.html
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
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Your point being?
Oops. Pushed the wrong button.
Ahem.
I think JohnM wanted everyone to read the truly revolting comments that followed the post. All those people suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome.
You are incorrect, I did not read the comments.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:10 pmToiletM is still proving his racism and bigotry
flag and move on
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pmthe great GOPsby Says:
why not simply capture ahmedinijad? it’s an easy call for a serious problem!
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1. It would not solve the problem.
2. The government of Iraq would revolt against us heavily (and immediately).
3. We cannot simply run around kidnapping the leaders of every country we disagree with. Not every problem has a military solution.
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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You figured wrong.
I know that you like your information filtered through this website, but I would expect that other people here occasionally venture out of the friendly confines of thinkprogress to get another perspective. I’m not surprised that you don’t find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
How exactly is an incorrect perspective “interesting” , you sorry little GOP pansy ?
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ToiletM is still proving his racism and bigotry
flag and move on
How exactly is that link racist or bigoted?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pmChris LeJeune Says:
I’ve written a little about it on VetVoice – check it out if you’re interested:
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
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Ah, yes, that was it – they bombed our embassy in Kuwait, not originated there. Thank you for the links – I hadn’t realized just how close they were with Tehran.
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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You figured wrong.
I know that you like your information filtered through this website, but I would expect that other people here occasionally venture out of the friendly confines of thinkprogress to get another perspective. I’m not surprised that you don’t find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
How exactly is an incorrect perspective “interesting” , you sorry little GOP pansy ?
You don’t know that it is incorrect.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pmWow. Whoever was typing his words into the teleprompter must be a really fast typist.
What?
The President didn’t use a teleprompter for responses to questions from the press?
But I thought the trolls said that he couldn’t speak without it????
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pmHey Twajie, I saw this on your stalker blog, can you say Delusions of Grandeur?
43. Rodan on 22 June, 2009 at 3:10 pm
re: #1 by K*n*e*vo
Yes Nico ran Think progress, I remember. You and I chased him out!
LOL!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pmthe gnats say a lot of things that are completely and totally untrue
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
Ah, yes, that was it – they bombed our embassy in Kuwait, not originated there. Thank you for the links – I hadn’t realized just how close they were with Tehran.
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And for the bonus round – who was their leader when they bombed our embassies? (I’ll give you a hint – he is the current Prime Minister of Iraq and his name rhymes with Nouri Al-Maliki).
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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You figured wrong.
I know that you like your information filtered through this website, but I would expect that other people here occasionally venture out of the friendly confines of thinkprogress to get another perspective. I’m not surprised that you don’t find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
How exactly is an incorrect perspective “interesting” , you sorry little GOP pansy ?
You don’t know that it is incorrect.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Uh , yeah , I do , GOP tool …….Michael Calderone is the same moron who erroneously claimed Bobby Piyush Brady Jindal’s pathetic response to Obama’s 1st address to the American people as president was met with an “Oh,God” response from Keith Olbermann , when it was actually Chris Matthews ; he has no credibility…….Like the GOP and yourself.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:15 pmMCMetal Says:
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Michael Calderone is neither relevant nor interesting , jackass ; in fact , he’s not even mildly credible , so stop posting links to absolute bullshit……..
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. The link was clear as to who wrote it, so you did not have to click on it if you did not want to read it.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 pmTommy, I don’t want to put words in your mouth but… are you saying they occasionally say something that may have some small degree of truth to it?
First I’ve heard of it. Must be by accident.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pmToiletM the racist keeps spewing his Gnat Talking Points
too funny
what a giant sissy
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pmwell, even a stopped clock………
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 pmJohnM Says:
You don’t know that it is incorrect.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
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It proposes a ridiculous hypothetical – that somehow Obama and the Huffington Post conspired so that Obama would be asked a thought-provoking question about Iran. At the same time, it thoroughly ignoring the basic fact that Pitney has been live-blogging events in Iran and is obviously well-connected to individuals there and thus was an obvious choice of person to call on for a question about Iran.
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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You figured wrong.
I know that you like your information filtered through this website, but I would expect that other people here occasionally venture out of the friendly confines of thinkprogress to get another perspective. I’m not surprised that you don’t find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
How exactly is an incorrect perspective “interesting” , you sorry little GOP pansy ?
You don’t know that it is incorrect.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Uh , yeah , I do , GOP tool …….Michael Calderone is the same moron who erroneously claimed Bobby Piyush Brady Jindal’s pathetic response to Obama’s 1st address to the American people as president was met with an “Oh,God” response from Keith Olbermann , when it was actually Chris Matthews ; he has no credibility…….Like the GOP and yourself.
So he mistook one hack on MSNBC for another hack on MSNBC? Seems like a pretty common mistake.
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Michael Calderone is neither relevant nor interesting , jackass ; in fact , he’s not even mildly credible , so stop posting links to absolute bullshit……..
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. The link was clear as to who wrote it, so you did not have to click on it if you did not want to read it.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
That is not my opinion , tool , it’s known FACT.
That moron has already revealed his accuracy when guessing , as I posted earlier ; you have no example(s) to prove he’s in any way credible.
You lose , punk ………….
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:19 pmtoasterhead, don’t try to reason with ToiletM
it comes here with its ignorance completely intact and it intends to keep it that way
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 pmWell said Mr. President. Stay the course.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 pmRantingTommy Says:
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ToiletM the racist keeps spewing his Gnat Talking Points
too funny
what a giant sissy
What talking points? I only posted the link. Do you even know what you are talking about?
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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You figured wrong.
I know that you like your information filtered through this website, but I would expect that other people here occasionally venture out of the friendly confines of thinkprogress to get another perspective. I’m not surprised that you don’t find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
How exactly is an incorrect perspective “interesting” , you sorry little GOP pansy ?
You don’t know that it is incorrect.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Uh , yeah , I do , GOP tool …….Michael Calderone is the same moron who erroneously claimed Bobby Piyush Brady Jindal’s pathetic response to Obama’s 1st address to the American people as president was met with an “Oh,God” response from Keith Olbermann , when it was actually Chris Matthews ; he has no credibility…….Like the GOP and yourself.
So he mistook one hack on MSNBC for another hack on MSNBC? Seems like a pretty common mistake.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Your previous post claimed I don’t know that he’s incorrect , and now you’re admitting he isn’t credible ; well done , dipshit………
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:22 pmChris LeJeune Says:
And for the bonus round – who was their leader when they bombed our embassies? (I’ll give you a hint – he is the current Prime Minister of Iraq and his name rhymes with Nouri Al-Maliki).
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
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Ooo ooo I know this one- William Ayers?!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:22 pmObama just has to realize that regardless of the stance he takes on this issue, he is going to be attacked from the right, and the misinformed.
Here is a perfect example of misinformation being spewed, Congressman Darrell Issa style…
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=1919
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Michael Calderone is neither relevant nor interesting , jackass ; in fact , he’s not even mildly credible , so stop posting links to absolute bullshit……..
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. The link was clear as to who wrote it, so you did not have to click on it if you did not want to read it.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
That is not my opinion , tool , it’s known FACT.
That moron has already revealed his accuracy when guessing , as I posted earlier ; you have no example(s) to prove he’s in any way credible.
You lose , punk ………….
You actually haven’t proven that he is not credible, he was wrong on which MSNBC hack said the comment. You will need a little more than that.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:24 pmif a rogue government is going militant on its people then its the responsibility of the people’s foreign allies to send in the might. we should have that dictator of a rag doll routed and a couple of beer drinkin’ u.s. marines kicking him senseless and posting his carcass on youtube.
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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You figured wrong.
I know that you like your information filtered through this website, but I would expect that other people here occasionally venture out of the friendly confines of thinkprogress to get another perspective. I’m not surprised that you don’t find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
How exactly is an incorrect perspective “interesting” , you sorry little GOP pansy ?
You don’t know that it is incorrect.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Uh , yeah , I do , GOP tool …….Michael Calderone is the same moron who erroneously claimed Bobby Piyush Brady Jindal’s pathetic response to Obama’s 1st address to the American people as president was met with an “Oh,God” response from Keith Olbermann , when it was actually Chris Matthews ; he has no credibility…….Like the GOP and yourself.
So he mistook one hack on MSNBC for another hack on MSNBC? Seems like a pretty common mistake.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Your previous post claimed I don’t know that he’s incorrect , and now you’re admitting he isn’t credible ; well done , dipshit………
That hardly shows he is not credible and you know that, you just wish you had more than that.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:25 pmJohnM Says:
I think JohnM wanted everyone to read the truly revolting comments that followed the post. All those people suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome.
You are incorrect, I did not read the comments.
Why am I not surprised you can’t detect irony?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:26 pmMCMetal Says
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
How exactly is an incorrect perspective “interesting” , you sorry little GOP pansy ?
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Eh — cut the troll a little slack. They don’t have much these days, so they’re trying to dress up what they’ve got as best they can.
This is a typical wingnut trick — when you can’t bash what President Obama says, find a shiny object and divert attention toward that. Even if you have to make one up.
In this case, Politico is trying to claim that Nico Pitney’s question was a carefully choreographed event, and implying this is scandalous. Of course, their speculation is based on Pitney’s question looking like it could be a setup.
Step two of this process is to get a troll (this is JohnM’s role) to trot this blog raving off to a progressive site like TP — claiming that we might find such blather “interesting”. Not only is it not interesting, but it doesn’t discredit President Obama’s words (which is what it’s trying to do).
Me? I really don’t care if Obama calling on Nico Pitney was truly spontaneous, or if it was as planned as a shuttle launch. The story here is what Obama said about the Iran elections, not who asked him the question or how it was asked.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 pmToiletM just can’t handle it. There is a black man in the white house. That makes racists like ToiletM angry. Angry enough to believe the liars on the radio that tell him what to think.
poor little pansy, can’t think for himself, just posts links to right wing BS and repeats bogus talking points
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 pmthe great GOPsby Says:
if a rogue government is going militant on its people then its the responsibility of the people’s foreign allies to send in the might. we should have that dictator of a rag doll routed and a couple of beer drinkin’ u.s. marines kicking him senseless and posting his carcass on youtube.
Hmm… not too sure that a Canadian invasion following Kent State or surgical air strikes by the Germans to support the people being sprayed with fire hoses in Birmingham would have had the desired effect…
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:29 pmthe great GOPsby,
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pmyou do know the protagonist of the fitzgerald novel you swiped your moniker from dies in the end…kinda like the current GOP?
UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: “Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/Obama_calls_on_HuffPost_for_Iran_question.html
I guess it was staged. Good job Michael Calderone.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pmthe great GOPsby Says:
if a rogue government is going militant on its people then its the responsibility of the people’s foreign allies to send in the might. we should have that dictator of a rag doll routed and a couple of beer drinkin’ u.s. marines kicking him senseless and posting his carcass on youtube.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
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Good point, good point.
However, the people of Iran will just have to take a number and wait their turn. The people of Zimbabwe, Burma, Peru, Palestine, Egypt, Uganda, Sudan, Chad, Turkmenistan, Nigeria, and Saudi Arabia have all been waiting in line much longer.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:31 pmToiletM still spouting talking points. What a pussy. Too scared to think for himself, has to let right wing blowhards think for him.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:31 pmour president needs to get on the television and give the 1st marine division the word. maj. gen. waldhauser will the give the word to all hands of the division, plan a brilliant course of action, locate ahmedinijad’s hq, call in airstrikes, arrest ahm when hes eating his fruitcake, and copter him to america. waldhauser will then be celebrated and nominated for lieutenant general.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:32 pmmisscoleopteramolly Says:
Me? I really don’t care if Obama calling on Nico Pitney was truly spontaneous, or if it was as planned as a shuttle launch. The story here is what Obama said about the Iran elections, not who asked him the question or how it was asked.
According to most of the comments at Politico, this is proof positive that the president is (a) a lightweight, (b) a demagogue, and (c) a media darling. Oh, and that he’s black.
It is SHOCKING that a president would call on a favorite in the press, or call on someone while knowing the question in advance. You’d never see a Republican president do that, no siree bob.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pmJohnM Says:
I guess it was staged. Good job Michael Calderone.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pmyes, the great GOPsby@79
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pmsince we all know how well american intervention in iran has worked in the past. good plan!
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ToiletM just can’t handle it. There is a black man in the white house. That makes racists like ToiletM angry. Angry enough to believe the liars on the radio that tell him what to think.
poor little pansy, can’t think for himself, just posts links to right wing BS and repeats bogus talking points
I guess when you can’t debate somebody the best thing to do is simply call them a racist despite a complete lack of evidence to support the claim.
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Michael Calderone is neither relevant nor interesting , jackass ; in fact , he’s not even mildly credible , so stop posting links to absolute bullshit……..
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. The link was clear as to who wrote it, so you did not have to click on it if you did not want to read it.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
That is not my opinion , tool , it’s known FACT.
That moron has already revealed his accuracy when guessing , as I posted earlier ; you have no example(s) to prove he’s in any way credible.
You lose , punk ………….
You actually haven’t proven that he is not credible, he was wrong on which MSNBC hack said the comment. You will need a little more than that.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
According to whom ?
A supporter of the worst president in US history in Bush , who has no evidence AT ALL that Calderone has any credibility ?
Try again , dipshit……..
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:34 pmthe great GOPsby Says:
our president needs to get on the television and give the 1st marine division the word. maj. gen. waldhauser will the give the word to all hands of the division, plan a brilliant course of action, locate ahmedinijad’s hq, call in airstrikes, arrest ahm when hes eating his fruitcake, and copter him to america. waldhauser will then be celebrated and nominated for lieutenant general.
First I think we should invade Iraq. The people there will greet us as liberators, democracy will flourish and then totalitarian regimes across the Middle East will topple and people there will sing the praises of the United States… that’s the only way!
What’s that?
Wait, what happened?
Say What!?! Damn.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 pmHey Twajie, sorry about the joke on the other thread. I’m sure it conjured up deep, lost memories, and you’re upset.
It was just a joke to lighten up the thread you helped derail.
No harm, no foul, okey dokey???
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pmwho gives a lingering sh t what other countries do. this is america. WE slap on the elbow grease. other countries stand by and sit on their behinds. lazy bums.
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No point at all, it is relevant to the thread and I figured people would find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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You figured wrong.
I know that you like your information filtered through this website, but I would expect that other people here occasionally venture out of the friendly confines of thinkprogress to get another perspective. I’m not surprised that you don’t find it interesting.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
How exactly is an incorrect perspective “interesting” , you sorry little GOP pansy ?
You don’t know that it is incorrect.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Uh , yeah , I do , GOP tool …….Michael Calderone is the same moron who erroneously claimed Bobby Piyush Brady Jindal’s pathetic response to Obama’s 1st address to the American people as president was met with an “Oh,God” response from Keith Olbermann , when it was actually Chris Matthews ; he has no credibility…….Like the GOP and yourself.
So he mistook one hack on MSNBC for another hack on MSNBC? Seems like a pretty common mistake.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Your previous post claimed I don’t know that he’s incorrect , and now you’re admitting he isn’t credible ; well done , dipshit………
That hardly shows he is not credible and you know that, you just wish you had more than that.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
That’s still one more piece of evidence than you have that shows Calderone has any credibility , dipshit .
You have none , and you lose , tool………
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pmIt’s much more fun just talking about racist gnats like ToiletM, rather than engaging them directly.
Watching their cowardly flailing is amusing as hell.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:37 pmMCMetal Says:
According to whom ?
A supporter of the worst president in US history in Bush , who has no evidence AT ALL that Calderone has any credibility ?
Try again , dipshit……..
He has shown his credibility here. Okay, I’m done with you, move along.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/Obama_calls_on_HuffPost_for_Iran_question.html
UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: “Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference.”
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pmgummble-bee-itch Says:
It is SHOCKING that a president would call on a favorite in the press, or call on someone while knowing the question in advance. You’d never see a Republican president do that, no siree bob.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
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Also, there’s no indication that the President knew the question in advance. Only that he knew Pitney had some questions from Iranians and wanted to give them an opportunity to have their voices heard. That’s not “staging.” Staging implies that the exchange was rehearsed, which it was clearly not.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pmDRxJ Says:
No harm, no foul, okey dokey???
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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pmJohnM Says: No point at all
Gnat a single point.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pmFor those who think the prez isn’t doing enough, what exactly should he do?
Maybe if the people of Minnesota took the streets like the Iranians, the GOP would adhere their own advice and seat Al Franken.
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It is SHOCKING that a president would call on a favorite in the press, or call on someone while knowing the question in advance. You’d never see a Republican president do that, no siree bob.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
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Also, there’s no indication that the President knew the question in advance. Only that he knew Pitney had some questions from Iranians and wanted to give them an opportunity to have their voices heard. That’s not “staging.” Staging implies that the exchange was rehearsed, which it was clearly not.
How does that Kool-Aid taste?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:40 pmJohnM Says:
UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: “Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference.”
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
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So?
That’s not evidence that the exchange was staged.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:40 pmAnd he DIDN’T call for CARPET BOMBING???
Pussy!
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UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: “Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference.”
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
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So?
That’s not evidence that the exchange was staged.
Sure they just called him up and let him know that his Iran question would be asked and had no idea what the question was. Your willful ignorance knows no bounds.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pmOkay, Twajie, I see you are still upset over the joke.
It was all in fun, okay?
Next time I’ll use JoeM or AnotherJoe as the punchline.
We still buds, right?
We still gonna party it up at Cabo with Sammy Hagar and the Waboritas?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pmtoasterhead, don’t try to reason with ToiletM the racist Gnat
it just changes the subject when its proven wrong, every time
best to just flag the racist little pansy and move on
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pmJohnM Says:
How does that Kool-Aid taste?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
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Wouldn’t know. I don’t drink high-fructose corn syrup. Nor do I mindlessly parrot talking points, like some people I know.
(I’m referring to you here, by the way.)
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pmtoasterhead, ToiletM has an IV of right wing koolaid
no point in trying to reason with it
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:44 pmJohnM Says:
Sure they just called him up and let him know that his Iran question would be asked and had no idea what the question was. Your willful ignorance knows no bounds.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
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Sorry, but I require proof before I can believe something. Unlike you.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:45 pmThis question seems staged. But, I applaud the whole thing.
President Obama’s comments are exactly right. I am absolutely on board.
Additionally, it is amazing the kind of influence someone like NIco Pitney can now have on world events.
Thanks to the internet, information that would have been blacked out in the past, is now free to flow.
Through Nico Pitney, the President is talking directly to the Iranian people.
It immensely complicates the response for the Iranian government. And that’s good. If forces them to answer for its actions.
The Iranian government must stop killing protestors and explain or rectify the election results.
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How does that Kool-Aid taste?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
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Wouldn’t know. I don’t drink high-fructose corn syrup. Nor do I mindlessly parrot talking points, like some people I know.
(I’m referring to you here, by the way.)
Sorry bud, you are the one with the blinders on and it is extremely clear to anybody objective. Maybe just once you can try and get info outside of left wing blogs, you might see that there is a whole world out there.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:46 pmJohnM Says:
Sure they just called him up and let him know that his Iran question would be asked and had no idea what the question was. Your willful ignorance knows no bounds.
Why not explain why there is a problem with this anyway?
In simple terms: so what?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:46 pmshorter ToiletM: “If you would just listen to Fox and Rush, you’d know where I get my misinformation from!”
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pmThanks for posting some news and/or information about someone other than lying liar wingnuts and other marginalized, obscure, or otherwise non-news-worthy types (which means they would never even have a platform if people just left their stink alone).
Kudos to you!
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Sure they just called him up and let him know that his Iran question would be asked and had no idea what the question was. Your willful ignorance knows no bounds.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
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Sorry, but I require proof before I can believe something. Unlike you.
The proof is he was called by the whitehouse and they discussed his Iran questions. I guess you don’t have any deductive reasoning skills, but that’s okay thinkprogress didn’t give you any yet.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pminstead of directly to, should have been directly with the Iranian people.
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Sorry bud, you are the one with the blinders on and it is extremely clear to anybody objective. Maybe just once you can try and get info outside of left wing blogs, you might see that there is a whole world out there.
YAWN… The WINGNUT TEABAGGER thinks EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG… How PATHETICALLY PREDICTABLE OF YOU PRINCESS…
That WHOLE WORLD just VOTED YOU and your EXTREMIST BUDDIES OUT OF OFFICE – DUM BASS… How about you JOIN *US* in REALITY FOR A CHANGE – FREAK.
Oh, it must be another commercial on cartoon network.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:48 pmOnly two criteria need to met in judging this situation:
1. Was the question relevant and important?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm2.
ok, I’d love to stay and make fun of ToiletM the racist Gnat and his fellow Gnats, but I got music to make
yous guys toke em easy
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm2. Did President Obama give a good answer?
(I hit the tab button and my incomplete comment posted)
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:50 pmThere you are, Another Joe! We were getting worried about you.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:51 pmMaybe folks are just shocked that we have a president who can actually read and gets information from different sources, so he’s abreast of what is going on in the world.
Watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTRDtrVleDQ
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The proof is he was called by the whitehouse and they discussed his Iran questions. I guess you don’t have any deductive reasoning skills, but that’s okay thinkprogress didn’t give you any yet.
Yet YOUR POSTS don’t say ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. They only said he was “INVITED TO ASK QUESTIONS”. Where do you have any *EVIDENCE* that the PARTICULAR QUESTIONS WERE DISCUSSED?
I bet you have a hard time staying in the lines on your coloring book. Is that why you have been held back so many times?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm@JohnM
You actually haven’t proven that he is not credible, he was wrong on which MSNBC hack said the comment. You will need a little more than that.
Here’s the proof:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/Obama_calls_on_HuffPost_for_Iran_question.html
Someone who is more concerned with who asked the questions or the potential that Obama may have already spoken to him about getting asked a question than they are with the content of the answer has no right to be considered even remotely credible.
Unlike others here, I found that article fascinating. I found the comments stunning (and I loved how most of the comments that people were responding nastily to weren’t there anymore….damn those scrubbers). I was unaware at the depths to which people will go to smear the President. Sometimes it’s warranted, sometimes its expected, hell sometimes it’s even acceptable. But it is incomprehensible that someone could find fault with the answering of a question that has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual response given.
It’s a new low. Thanks for sharing.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:51 pmtoasterhead, you’re trying to reason with the unreasonable.
JohnM is completely locked in his own alternate reality, and he thinks that the rest of us should recognize his own delusions as objective reality.
The well-known right-wing rigidity must really come in handy for JohnM.
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The proof is he was called by the whitehouse and they discussed his Iran questions.
PROVE IT.
UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: “Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference.”
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:56 pmrepublican hates facts needs to go to summer school.
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According to whom ?
A supporter of the worst president in US history in Bush , who has no evidence AT ALL that Calderone has any credibility ?
Try again , dipshit……..
He has shown his credibility here. Okay, I’m done with you, move along.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/Obama_calls_on_HuffPost_for_Iran_question.html
UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: “Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference.”
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
MORON
Knoller works for CBS radio , NOT HuffPo ; and did Knoller interview Pitney personally ?
You have zero proof of ANYTHING ; now shut your stinky , stupid piehole you colossal moronic GOP pansy ……..
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:57 pmJohnM Says:
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The proof is he was called by the whitehouse and they discussed his Iran questions.
PROVE IT.
UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: “Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference.”
You need to work on the English language comprehension skills.
“Ask questions” is not the same as “discuss the questions.”
Seriously.
And you still haven’t explained why anyone would give a damn, even if they had discussed the question(s).
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:58 pmWhy do we care if the question was staged or not?
It was a question that needed answering.
I don’t think we should be giving style points for being able to wing it.
What’s much more important is communicating the position.
Which is spot on.
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The proof is he was called by the whitehouse and they discussed his Iran questions.
PROVE IT.
UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: “Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference.”
That’s NOT PROOF that they *DISCUSSED HIS IRAN QUESTIONS* which is WHAT YOU CLAIMED.
Anytime you’d like to provide REAL PROOF, PLEASE DO.
Meanwhile you JUST broke one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS to NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS – hope you ENJOY THE WINTER IN H*LL SINNER! ;)
Obviously you mommy gave you Kool-Aid when you were watching Scooby Doo this morning.
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McMetal, JohnM doesn’t understand the DIFFERENCE between RUMORS, GOSSIP and “FACTS”, poor little TARD… ;)
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
He’s a fu(king retard ; what the hell does a Twitter tweet prove ?
You couldn’t have a less credible source than that ……
Wait , cancel that ; it could the “word” of a GOP tool…….
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pmAnd he won’t. You can’t make him.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:03 pmWhat’s the beef? Ask Helen Thomas about getting called on during Bush’s press conferences — like never. Who gets called on is commonly telegraphed before these conferences. Besides, the question wasn’t a softball question. So where is the beef?
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The proof is he was called by the whitehouse and they discussed his Iran questions.
PROVE IT.
UPDATE 2: Knoller, again via Twitter: “Huffington Post’s Nico Pitney says the WH called him this morning and invited him to ask his Iran questions at the news conference.”
You need to work on the English language comprehension skills.
“Ask questions” is not the same as “discuss the questions.”
Seriously.
And you still haven’t explained why anyone would give a damn, even if they had discussed the question(s).
You really are gullible. They clearly discussed the questions before hand, why else would they contact him. Why not just call on him? There is no reason to contact him before hand unless it was to know the question.
For now on you shall be known as gullible-bee-itch.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:03 pmThe tools aren’t really angry if the Nico Pitney’s question was set up or not…they’re just angry that Pitney didn’t have nude pictures on the net they could drool over…
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:05 pmsee what I mean? Locked in his own, dank echoey cavern of a mind. Words mean exactly what JohnM wants them to mean and nothing else.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:05 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says:
Chris LeJeune Says:
And for the bonus round – who was their leader when they bombed our embassies? (I’ll give you a hint – he is the current Prime Minister of Iraq and his name rhymes with Nouri Al-Maliki).
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
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Ooo ooo I know this one- William Ayers?!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm~~~~~~~
The Platinum Medallions and crowns of Laurel Leaves go to chiroptera toasterhead and Chris LeJeune. Bravo and thanks…
Their principles are as sturdy as water…promise keepers and all…they miss Jeff Gannon
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:08 pmJohnM Says:
For now on you shall be known as gullible-bee-itch.
Yes, JohnM may belong to a political party that officially claims that Obama is the Muslim Socialist Terrorist Antichrist, but at least he’s not “gullible”.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:08 pmJohnM Says:
You really are gullible. They clearly discussed the questions before hand, why else would they contact him. Why not just call on him? There is no reason to contact him before hand unless it was to know the question.
If you’d read anything you’d know there was a perfectly good reason to contact him in advance — to tell him he needed to be there. And you think I’m the gullible one? He’s not part of the regular press corps, dummy.
And you continue to avoid the real question: who cares?
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 pmAnd you still haven’t explained why anyone would give a damn, even if they had discussed the question(s).
Thought I’d post it again, just to see if JohnM will blatantly ignore a reasonable question yet again.
He ignored it when I said it to. The reality is that how the question was posed really doesn’t mean dick. The content of the answer is the important part. That’s why the Politico article is irrelevant, that’s why JohnM is irrelevant. I know the devil’s in the details, but we’re about thisclose to someone criticizing Obama for having a fly-away hair on a windy day.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pmthe president wanted to hear a specific question that none of the major networks would ask…. Sometimes you don’t get to ask a specific question, because someone else has asked it.
this morning on CNN, Kiran Chetry played a recording of an iranian citizen and asked Robert Gibbs to comment, so i think they are well aware of what is going on… and maybe the president wanted to answer that particularly question directly.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:15 pmralph. It doesn’t surprise me that liberals and conservatives think differently.
Liberals or progressives seem to want, and are more open to, change, while conservatives seem to be more comfortable with the status quo.
If all change is good, the generalization that the liberal mindset is somehow more appropriate or evolved, would be compelling.
But, is that the assumption? That any and all change is better than the status quo?
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:16 pmIt’s so nice to have an intelligent president for a change.
Could you imagine the mess this would have become with McCain and Palin?
We are sooooo lucky that the magine was soooo wide that the GNOP could not steal another election.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:21 pmPitney has been blogging on Iraq for two weeks – does Calderone think Obama wouldn’t have a clue on the nature of a question he would ask? With the coverage from Iraq coming from twitter and blogs, doesn’t it seem logical to ask one of our own?
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pmThe sneering and sniffing that goes on among the so-called journalists of today is further proof that their personal attitudes, coupled with the general tone of the media as a whole, is contributing to their becoming irrerlevant.
@backup
Your question is fair and reasoned. The answer is – there is no answer. Sometimes yes, and sometimes no (see, there’s that liberal flip-floppy-ness that the cons can’t stand….actually it’s because there is no black and white answer).
Conservatives and progressives are polar opposites. True conservatism advocates, literally, for there to be no change. True progressives say that since things have to change, we should change with it. Both are reasonable when applied to certain situations. When the way to freedom and personal liberty means changing, then it change is good. When change equals oppression and the regression of society, then it is not good. To determine whether “new and shiny” or “tried and true” is the best option, one must first know the details of the situation.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:29 pmFirst President Obama should send in troops to arrest Bush, Cheney, Rove and all the other crooks who stole the 2000 election and then skewed the 2004 election. It is not his job to fix elections in Iran.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:30 pmNice try, smidget, but JohnM doesn’t DO “reasonable”.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:32 pmNo.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
smidget Says:
And you still haven’t explained why anyone would give a damn, even if they had discussed the question(s).
Thought I’d post it again, just to see if JohnM will blatantly ignore a reasonable question yet again.
Nice try, smidget, but JohnM doesn’t DO “reasonable”.
*forehead slap* You’re right, ralph. I don’t know what I was thinking.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:39 pmGood. We are on the same page. Both schools of thought serve a purpose.
Progressives push for change. Conservatives champion the status quo. Hopefully, progressives will make headway on issues that need change and conservatives will successfully defend those areas of the status quo that benefit society.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:47 pmAnyone
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm,like JOhnnyM, who thinks diabetes is not a disability is automatically not worth engaging in conversation.
Although, I must admit it’s hilarious dragging out his stupidity.
As for the subject, we all know Bushbaby never scripted anything, don’t we. (gr)
tony and lido
smidget. nice post.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:49 pmyou people are cool.
See ya.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pmHakaN. Don’t draw me into your sweet realm of on-line chat with supposedly beautifully women.
Oh, who am I kidding. click.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:54 pmOnce again President Obama karate kicked McCain, et al in the head when he said “Only I am the President of the United States.”
Now go pick up your heads from the curb herbs!
KEEP REMINDING THE NAYSAYING GOPERS!
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:08 pmNUFF SAID!
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And you still haven’t explained why anyone would give a damn, even if they had discussed the question(s).
Thought I’d post it again, just to see if JohnM will blatantly ignore a reasonable question yet again.
He ignored it when I said it to. The reality is that how the question was posed really doesn’t mean dick. The content of the answer is the important part. That’s why the Politico article is irrelevant, that’s why JohnM is irrelevant. I know the devil’s in the details, but we’re about thisclose to someone criticizing Obama for having a fly-away hair on a windy day.
Sorry, I did not see your post. I think the answer to your question is how upset people are here about the possibility that it was staged. People here obviously care, otherwise they would not be so set on trying to prove denounce the possibility.
Personally, I don’t care if it was staged or not. I actually agree with Obama on his stance with Iran. I just think it is interesting that people are so unwilling to believe that he would do this, especially when Bush would get so much flak for doing same thing. It is strange that the whitehouse reached out to this reporter before the press conference and it did seem to be staged during the press conference. The fact remains the left was very critical of Bush staging answers and Obama must be held to the same standard.
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:26 pmI guess since I knew how I was going to make my coffee this morning, in advance, that it was “staged”. I feel like a fraud, yet cannot think of a way to make coffee spontaneously, with no foreknowledge. Even if I went out to get coffee, it would be staged, because I would know where I wanted to go to get the coffee before I left the house. Oh. I hate myself. Such a phony.
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I guess since I knew how I was going to make my coffee this morning, in advance, that it was “staged”. I feel like a fraud, yet cannot think of a way to make coffee spontaneously, with no foreknowledge. Even if I went out to get coffee, it would be staged, because I would know where I wanted to go to get the coffee before I left the house. Oh. I hate myself. Such a phony.
Horrible analogy.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 pmPolitico is probably just miffed because Obama didn’t call on them like Bush did.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 pmIt’s not a work of art, but the President calling on someone in a press conference is pretty damned pedestrian.
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:27 pmJohnM
It wasn’t my question, John. I repeated it for the 88th time on this thread. Pretending you didn’t see it doesn’t cover you. I don’t know why it would take you so long to answer such a simple question with such a ridiculous answer, but it did.
YOU are the one that posted the conspiracy-to-answer bullshit. YOU are the one that has been keeping the idiocy going on this thread. The people who are here that care whether or not something so stupid is being spread around are, for the most part, appalled at how vapid people have to be to 1) buy this garbage, and 2) give a shit.
I’m glad you agree with Obama on his stance on Iran. So what’s your excuse for going out of your way to propagate the moronic rumors you find on Politico?
June 24th, 2009 at 8:50 amSesli Chat
Sesli sohbet
Thanks
June 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pm