Not only did Gov. Mark Sanford’s (R) family and staff seemingly not know that he had taken off to Argentina for the past week, but ABC News reports that the U.S. embassy in Argentina didn’t know either. According to a U.S. embassy official in Buenos Aires, they had “absolutely no idea” that Sanford was in the country and added that the news comes “from out of left field — it would be extremely odd that a US governor would not check in with the embassy.”
Update A source tells TPM Muckraker that “there is some evidence” that Sanford “was not alone” on his trip to Argentina. "
The other shoe's gonna drop,” the source said. “I believe there's a reason he wanted to drop his SLED detail."
Update The Plum Line casts some doubt on how "odd" it was that Sanford didn't notify the U.S. embassy after speaking to a State Department spokesman who said that "a governor
would not notify state department or embassies if he were going abroad."
Update According to The State, Sanford "declined to give any additional details about what he did other than to say he drove along the coastline." However, the paper notes that driving "along the coast could frustrate a weekend visitor to Argentina. In Buenos Aires, the Avenida Costanera is the only coastal road, and
it's less than two miles long. Reaching coastal resorts to the south requires a drive of nearly four hours on an inland highway with views of endless cattle ranches. To the north is a river delta of islands reached only by boat." (HT:
The Hill)
Update Jonathan Martin reports, "State. Rep Nikki Haley, a South Carolina Republican gubernatorial hopeful and ally of Gov. Mark Sanford,
removed a picture of and quote from the governor from her campaign website last night."
Update ThinkProgress received a statement from spokesperson Sonia Dub in the U.S. embassy in Argentina:
Governor Sanford did not contact our Intergovernmental Affairs Office or the Embassy in BA to register official travel. If he decided to travel as a private citizen, the Department of State would not have to be informed and I refer you to Governor Sanford's office for further details.
Most likely, because he WASN’T!
June 24th, 2009 at 12:15 pmFive bucks says it’s hookers.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pmTimeline: How Did Sanford’s Bogus Story Evolve?
By Josh Marshall (TPM)
Gov. Sanford’s (R-SC) staff, wife and even Sanford himself apparently ran through a series of evolving and often completely contradictory explanations about where he was and what he was doing. First, he wasn’t missing, then he was taking some time away from the kids to do something writing (yeah, that one was a doozy), then he was hiking the Appalachian Trail, then his staff was in touch with him and then he weren’t, now he was in Argentina. And those are only the big developments. We’ve put together an official TPM Gov. Sanford Bogus Story Timeline giving you the step by step guide to Sanford’s staffs valiant but ultimately vain efforts to come up with a cover story that would hold up for more than a few hours.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pmHere’s what you need to know…
June 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pm.
I smell “BOYFRIEND”!
.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:20 pmThis just stinks to high heaven. While we don’t have any hard evidence that Sanford did anything unethical (unless you count wandering away from your job without a word to anyone “unethical”), the whole situation doesn’t mesh with a scenario on the up-and-up.
If Sanford wanted to take a week off and go to Buenos Aires, why wouldn’t he tell his staff? his wife? his family? his friends? ANYONE?
Or why would he get his staff to lie for him, assuming they did know where he was and were told to cover up for him?
If he has nothing to hide, why is he acting like he does?
It will be interesting to hear what he has to say at his press conference this afternoon. I’m personally interested to see what fresh stamps actually made it into his passport.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:21 pmJust curious. Did Sanford ever run on “Accountability”?
June 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pmAccording to a U.S. embassy official in Buenos Aires, they had “absolutely no idea” that Sanford was in the country and added that the news comes “from out of left field — it would be extremely odd that a US governor would not check in with the embassy.”
Well, start stocking condoms and Viagra…he’ll check in…
June 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pmHe’s setting the stage for his own reality TV show…
‘Sanford & Some’
Unlike John & Kate, he doesn’t need a divorce. He just goes & gets him ’some’.
This is on the ‘alternative reality’ channel, WTFTV
June 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pmNo bet.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pmTime to call in the National Enquirer.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm.
Missmolly,
What gets me is that his office put out the “hiking the Appalachians” meme AFTER they contacted him. So either they knew he wasn’t in the mountains or he lied to his staff about his whereabouts.
.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:25 pmThis raises question on just who paid for this trip. There is no apparent official business. Hmmmmm.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:27 pmI wonder if his wife gave such cryptic answers because he’s done this before and she’s tired of his shit? She had to know such vague answers would pique interest.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pmI should hope that he is being investigated with a fine-toothed comb by the FBI, CIA, DHS, or whoever is appropriate. This could have been a ‘getaway emergency vacation’; could have been a drunken sexual escapade (and what ARE the laws on that for US citizens abroad?); but it also could have been even more shady — what secrets does he have to sell? Certainly the whole cloud of obscurity over this should have anyone questioning the motives(which would have stood firm, had not someone tipped off a reporter who followed up on the tip and caught him at the airport). The lack of observing protocol makes it even more questionable.
he should be kicked out of his home by his wife, kicked out of office by his constitutents, and investigated to the hilt by law enforcement.
Where are the conservative voices on this? Surely they cannot approve….
June 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pmSanford set the news conference at 2:00 to give him time to review Ensign’s and Vitter’s performances….
Sanford’s note to self: “Pull on hairs through pants pocket to make eyes water…”
June 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pmHe may want to keep his hands away from that region while discussing his little trip to boy beach.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:31 pmNever attribute to malice what can more easily be attributed to incompetence.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm“…it would be extremely odd that a US governor would not check in with the embassy.”
Not if the US governor in question was himself “extremely odd”…
June 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pmAlien Abduction.
That’s exactly what I’d tell if I were Sanford.
Right now it’s as believeable as anything else that’s come out of this story.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pmMy guess, a little nip-tuck. Gotta be pretty if you’re going to run against Palin in the 2012 primary.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:37 pmOK, so where were Larry Craig and Rush Limbaugh during this episode?
June 24th, 2009 at 12:42 pmRantingTommy Says:
Never attribute to malice what can more easily be attributed to incompetence.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Speaking from a woman’s point of view, if I were Sanford’s wife, I’d have found a way to be maliciously incompetent. ;)
June 24th, 2009 at 12:43 pm“Top-Ten” list of possibilities on Little Marky’s escapade from last week:
1) Rush Limpballs personally arranged a sex tour for him and he spent the week diddling young boys
2) GDumbya invited him to the ranch to get wasted on Jim Beam and ganja, clear brush and spoon
3) Went quail-hunting with Darth Cheney
4) Secret meetings with his Stanford for President 2012
5) Found an intensive rehab program — did 30 days of drying out in seven days
6) Chased hookers in Atlanta all week looking for his own “stimulus program”
7) Went on a cruise with his soul-mate, Sarah Palin
8) Can’t blame him for disappearing — he hasn’t been to a KKK rally in more than a decade!
9) Left home for the week so that his wife’s children could spend Father’s Day with their real father
10) Spent the week on the streets of Tehran single-handedly starting the revolution.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:43 pm.
I know we are in opperation FnF on FreeMarketLiberal, but really, should we let him continue on thinking that Think Progress is gonna become a conservative web site?
.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:43 pmRollaMO Says:
My guess, a little nip-tuck.
He could schedule that here and have it covered by medical confidentiality. No, whatever requires a last minute secret flight to Argentina over Father’s day with rotating cover stories has got to be weirder than that.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pmWell, you don’t advertise Cocaine Orgies with hookers when you are a Governor.
Sounds like this guys should find another job, he obviously is not qualified or responsible enough for the one he has.
But then again, Conservatives are not qualified to run anything.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pmMax Anax junius -1 Says:
I know we are in opperation FnF on FreeMarketLiberal, but really, should we let him continue on thinking that Think Progress is gonna become a conservative web site?
Well of course it is. What, don’t you believe in bipartisanship?
/snark
June 24th, 2009 at 12:46 pmRollaMO Says:
My guess, a little nip-tuck. Gotta be pretty if you’re going to run against Palin in the 2012 primary.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
____________
That’d be my theory – Argentina’s becoming a top destination for medical tourism.
Now what’d be REALLY ironic is if he actually went for a more serious medical procedure that his insurance plan wouldn’t cover or that he couldn’t afford to have done in the US.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:47 pmIt’s pretty reckless for him to be in BA without notifying the embassy isn’t it? Don’t they have a lot of kidnappings over there?
June 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pmFreeMarketLiberal
June 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pm—
I assume you realize that consistently posting the exact same thing in multiple places is a classic cry for attention…
BTW, medical confidentiality, even under the HIPAA regulations, is still very suspect here. There are constant violations of this law, see the recent UCLA firings over the Octomom, and Britney Spears’ records, many others.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pmI see freemarketliberal has learned to use his cut and paste. How many times are we oging to see THE EXACT SAME POST in one day?
That boy ought to have enough flags to supply the next olympics.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pmMy gosh, this is theater for the absurd!! Sanford is a poor loser just like the GOP. I just got off the phone with a friend of mine in who lives in Columbia, SC and he told me that all of Sanford’s proposals that were vetoed were so draconian and oppressive that it actually was going to set the state back some 50 years or so. He also stated that Sanford should step down.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:52 pmElBruce,
That depends…
… Is there a “Public Option” available on TP?
.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:52 pmGrassroots Bipartisanship on Health Care
As a follow-up on Nate’s fine work (here and here) on polling about the “public option” in health care reform, it’s worth emphasizing that the two most credible surveyors of public opinion on this subject, the Kaiser Family Foundation and CBS/New York Times, have both found that at least half of self-identified Republicans favor a well-described public option.
So the question must be asked: if Barack Obama wants to conduct a bipartisan approach to universal health care, what does that mean in terms of the public option? Killing or watering down the public option in order to (maybe) attract the support of Sen. Chuck Grassley, and not much of anybody else in the congressional Republican ranks? Or maintaining it to appeal to rank-and-file Republicans, who favor it despite the views of their “leaders” and the polarized atmosphere in Washington?
June 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pmAre we sure he stayed in Argentina? Or, perhaps did he visit … Venezuela?!
June 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pmI hear he immediately picked up ‘the pet goat’ after exiting the plane in Argentina…
..no no, not the book…
June 24th, 2009 at 12:57 pmFreeMarketLiberal says:
It’s pretty hard to achieve “Social Utopia” with progressivism, collectivism in a Capitalist Country.
Yeah, well that will be short lived. Late decadent capitalism is descending into economic depression, social barbarism, and ecological suicide.
Your children and grandchildren will wonder what the fook you were even thinking, trying to turn the world and life into mere commodities, and they’ll curse you. But you don’t care, do you?
You’ve been brainwashed to believe an economic system is a “value”.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pmFreeMarketLiberal Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 1:00 pm“Achieving the Radical Left wing agenda by posting another article about a Republican.”
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It’s working great for me and I’m sure for the people of TP as well. BTW phuck them sorry a$$ losers Rethuglicans. Sanford just proved he is “incompetent” and “unfit” for any public office. So much for your collectivism capitalist country, Texas would be a perfect fit for you?
***
he was on sarah’s short list for v.p.
and now this!
how sad.
:(
June 24th, 2009 at 1:01 pmSanford went to Argentina to have a stimulus applied to his package…
(did we already have a stimulus joke?)
June 24th, 2009 at 1:02 pmThose southern governors!
http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/2009/06/southern-governors-go-south-to-buenos.html
June 24th, 2009 at 1:04 pmSanford is having a news conference in about an hour.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:04 pmJust got off of Kayak and a trip to BA from Atlanta costs between $7000 to $10,000+ (depending on the carrier) flying first class, add another $3000 to $5000 for hotel, meals, car and entertainment…and double the airfare for 2.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:07 pmZooey Says:
Sanford is having a news conference in about an hour.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
****
this is going to be one of the most
watched pressers in history.
:|
June 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pm…
UPDATE Jonathan Martin reports, “State. Rep Nikki Haley, a South Carolina Republican gubernatorial hopeful and ally of Gov. Mark Sanford, removed a picture of and quote from the governor from her campaign website last night.”
…
not mark sanford’s wife.
:| :|
June 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmThere are even more suspicions arising on Sanford’s mysterious trip. He may not have been alone. (TPM)
If this guy had any aspirations for higher office, I think he should abandoned them.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pmAnyone can have a failed marriage, or take off without telling anyone, or just need some time alone — these are all legitimate.
But when a political party and its members have set themselves above everyone else as self-appointed moral arbiters of family values, they open the door wide to expose their own foibles.
Governors must inform the Lt. Governor, and certainly his security staff, of his whereabouts.
Lies have been compounded here – no one believes him. Another SC representative has left the GOP with this last straw.
You guys have it all wrong.
The reason he left on Father’s Day weekend was he was getting a sex change operation.
Think about it.
He’s not a man underneath….ssshhhhhh he celebrated Mother’s Day.
HAHAHAHAHAHA Marcia HAHAHAHAHA
June 24th, 2009 at 1:20 pmjoe cantwell Says:
…
UPDATE Jonathan Martin reports, “State. Rep Nikki Haley, a South Carolina Republican gubernatorial hopeful and ally of Gov. Mark Sanford, removed a picture of and quote from the governor from her campaign website last night.”
####
I saw news that a reporter is expected to ask about a certain state employee at the presser today.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pmjoe cantwell Says:
***
he was on sarah’s short list for v.p.
and now this!
how sad.
:(
In the repugs’ eyes this is a plus. he’s still on her list.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:24 pmWhile it might be fun to engage in wishful thinking, we don’t know what he was up to, so speculating that he might have done something less than honorable is just US wanting THEM to fail.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that….
June 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pm…
game,
that’s something esquire
would call a “dubious achievement award“.
:L)
:)
June 24th, 2009 at 1:28 pmLevi the Dungbeetle Says:
While it might be fun to engage in wishful thinking, we don’t know what he was up to, so speculating that he might have done something less than honorable is just US wanting THEM to fail.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that….
June 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
***
i’m a little vague on the
“wanting THEM to fail”
concept as i am not sure
(yet) about what sanford
was trying to do.
***
just speculating, but if mark was
trying to get a “boehner” tan
in b.a. well i for one hope he
succeeded! anyway we’ll find out
at the 2pm presser, won’t we?
:)
June 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pmThe Plum Line casts some doubt on how “odd” it was that Sanford didn’t notify the U.S. embassy after speaking to a State Department spokesman who said that “a governor would not notify state department or embassies if he were going abroad.”
____________
This just isn’t passing the smell test for me. I realize Argentina isn’t Afghanistan, but it’s still a place where tourists can be robbed, abducted, or fall victim to other street crime. It seems absolutely unbelievable that a sitting governor would not register with the embassy or diplomatic security on an international trip.
Unless, of course, he was trying to keep it a secret.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:35 pmI believe it is a “straw man” to attack Sanford for some as-yet unknown breech of conduct.
While it is fun to speculate on the possibilities of what Sanford might have done, the reality may be more bizzare than anything we could dream up.
Personally I picture sanford in a mud pit filled with adolescent midget boys wearing diapers.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:36 pmAnd another one gone and another one gone
June 24th, 2009 at 1:38 pmAnother one bites the dust,
Hey! Anybody heard from Darlyy for the last six days or so>??
June 24th, 2009 at 1:38 pmHow they got the diapers on the elephant, we will never know.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:38 pmjoe cantwell, if he was trying to get a Boehner tan wouldn’t he have been better off nude hiking the Appalachian Trail?
June 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pmHe was taking a later plane.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
joe cantwell, if he was trying to get a Boehner tan wouldn’t he have been better off nude hiking the Appalachian Trail?
June 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
***
is that how you get a “boehner tan”?
not worth it!
:(
June 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmIt’s all about sex, obviously. Nothing makes people act crazier. Probably a hot romantic fling – but whether with a girl or a boy remains to be seen.
Guess he wanted to arrange his own ’stimulus package’.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmI guess the U.S. embassy doesn’t monitor the child prostitution rings in Argentina.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmOooo… the plot thickens even further…
June 24th, 2009 at 1:44 pm“U.S. embassy had ‘absolutely no idea’ that Sanford was in Argentina.”
Well, well, well, Argentina????
“source tells TPM Muckraker that “there is some evidence” that Sanford “was not alone” on his trip to Argentina.” lol And who pray tell was with him on the trip?? Did Sanford do the nasty? Inquiries want to know. If so, there goes Sanford’s 2010 run for President up in flames.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pmI doubt it was Rush Limbaugh. His child prostitute connection is in Dominica.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmIf so, there goes Sanford’s 2010 run for President up in flames.
June 24th, 2009 at 1:49 pmEspecially since the election is in 2012…
Oh where oh where can our little Sanford be? With his tail cut long and his hair cut short, oh where oh where can he be?
Actually, Sanford was on a secret mission for the former President Bush to scout out a nice new ranchette in lovely humid Paraguay. Some place to chop that nice thick Paraguayan brush, you know…
June 24th, 2009 at 1:49 pm5th Estate:
The start of new lyrics for you:
Don’t cry for me South Carolina
June 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pmMy dick was hard, I needed some vagina
In Bueno Aires, in Argentina
most probably boys, could be midgets, maybe not mud pit
June 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pmdiapers absolutely , it’s so GOP
ASSOCIATED PRESS
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — Personal trainer and self-labeled ex-prostitute Mike Jones, whose allegations regarding disgraced Baptist megachurch preacher Ted Haggard led to the latter’s resignation, says he spent the weekend in a Colorado hotel room with missing South Carolina Republican Gov. Mark Sanford. And he has a plane ticket receipt with Sanford’s name on it that he says proves it.
A spokeswoman for Sanford’s office called the allegation “beyond ludicrous; shameful,” adding that Sanford is a “married man who is deeply committed to his wife and children, whom he loves very, very much.”
“Governor Sanford would never engage in the incredibly immoral acts Mr. Jacobs has alleged took place,” the spokeswoman said. “Governor Sanford believes homosexual acts are a sin and violate the Bible and the sacred institution of traditional marriage, which is why he fully supports South Carolina’s Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as being between only a man and a woman.”
The spokeswoman wouldn’t say if the governor plans to sue for defamation of character, only that “Mr. Jones should be very, very careful about what he says about Governor Sanford in the future. And we’ll be praying for his soul at this clearly troubling time in his life.”
June 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pmDan Quayle overheard saying: “and you guys thought *I* was the dumbest Republican!”
June 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pmWow – seems like this rabbit hole has gotten a little deeper! I’ve got to see and hear what logical explanation Sanford will provide for his stange behavior.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pmShellly Says:
ASSOCIATED PRESS
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — Personal trainer and self-labeled ex-prostitute Mike Jones…
I’m finding that hard to buy. Sanford wouldn’t hook up with somebody who already brought down a wingnut.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:03 pmI stopped thinking that 8 years ago.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:06 pmA spokeswoman for Sanford’s office called the allegation “beyond ludicrous; shameful,” adding that Sanford is a “married man who is deeply committed to his mistresses and their illigetimate children, for whom he pays very, very much dinero.”
“Governor Sanford would never engage in the incredibly immoral acts Mr. Jacobs has alleged took place,” the spokeswoman said. “Governor Sanford believes extramarital acts are a lot of fun and he quotes the Bible while doing, and the sacred institution of traditional whoremongering, which is why he fully supports South Carolina’s Defense of International Prostitution Act, which defines underage prostitution as being between only a governor and his children of choice.”
“Mr. Sanford should be very, very careful about what he says about his philandering in the future. And we’ll be praying for his soul at this clearly hosed up time in his life.”
June 24th, 2009 at 2:08 pmI smell “BOYFRIEND”!
Buenos Aires is a GREAT place for GAYCATION!!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:12 pmThe personal lives of our leadership shouldn’t be that big an issue.
The relationships they have should be of little consequence. We should be more concerned with how they do their jobs.
This Sanford event is different. You can’t just split without being able to justify your whereabouts. Is he having contacts or covert relationships that could jeopardize national security? He can’t explain, so we don’t know.
If he took off to get time alone. That’s cool. But, he should have at least told the people that are closest to him.
It calls his judgement into question.
Additionally, although I feel that our leaders personal lives should be de-emphasized, conservatives and Republicans face additional scrutiny because they often make moral relationship issues paramount. That’s a mistake.
The best thing Republicans could do today, is to pledge to retreat from their hollow judgmental attitudes towards others.
After a time, maybe others will stop highlighting the extreme hypocrisy of their positions.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pmDamn, uhh…Sanford is lying uhh…already what a shame.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pmHe starting with bs.
He apologized, so he DID do something wrong.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:26 pmWhat a crybaby…I guess he didn’t stay long enough.
WAHHHHHWAHHHHH
June 24th, 2009 at 2:28 pmCHEATED!
I still don’t believe he’s telling the truth.
ON FATHER’S DAY!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:31 pmHe just admitted to having an affair.
I knew it because he started by apologizing to his wife and talking about God’s law.
Wow.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:31 pmWhy is he bullshyting now? OMG!! I knew it
June 24th, 2009 at 2:31 pmSo can we finally put Bill Clinton’s tom foolery to rest?
This is two church going republicans in one week.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pm…
let the spin
begin.
:|
June 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pmResign now Sanford damn!!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pmRepugs’ Family Values
HAHAHAHA
June 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pmYES YES YES!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pm…
with a round
of applause.
:|
June 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pmThis is turning out even more surreal than I’d expected. I was not expecting the “sexting with special friend IN Argentina” answer.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pmOh geez — now the breaking news is that Sanford admits being “unfaithful” to his wife…
No! Really?
Wonder if his wife was standing next to him at the presser?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pmOMG!! What a cry baby
June 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pmHe’s a stone liar!
These liars will bring up their God as a crutch.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pmHey when Edwards had his affair made public and possibly having a baby out of the affair, all you leftists were saying it was none of our business. Why is it when a Republican does it, it is bad. When a Democrat does it, that’s ok. Please explain?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pmBesides I don’t blam Sanford for having an afafir with an Argentine woman. They are hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He’s the man!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:36 pmOMG! I almost puked when he started crying! HYPOCRITE!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:36 pmOooh, FoxNews finally gave this a mention. Did they spin it? Naw, not a chance!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Oh lord, she was married with 2 kids. And it happened so innocently…yeah right.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:37 pmThe Truth Says:
Why is it when a Republican does it, it is bad. When a Democrat does it, that’s ok. Please explain?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
_____________
Cause this is MUCH funnier.
Also, Edwards was a private citizen at the time, whereas Sanford is the sitting governor of South Carolina who went AWOL for five days.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:38 pmGladly.
Because we haven’t set ourselves up as the bastion of moral and spiritual holiness.
You hypocrites, have.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:38 pmGame of Life.
Who cares! The other woman was an Argentine, they are great in bed! I don’t blame him, most American woman are lame in bed. Russians, Italians, Greeks, Spanish are the best!
Sanford is that man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmThe Truth Says:
Hey when Edwards had his affair made public and possibly having a baby out of the affair, all you leftists were saying it was none of our business. Why is it when a Republican does it, it is bad. When a Democrat does it, that’s ok. Please explain?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pm=============
Because Rethuglicans always preach about “family values” and yet they don’t practice what they preach.
We aren’t talking about Edwards dicwad.
Stay OT or STFU
June 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmSee, don’t invoke the name of GOD or harp on the sanctity of marriage or marriage being between a man and a woman when you’re not living your life that way!
Edwards wasn’t infront of the cameras pushing the sanctity of marriage and christian conservative values! THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pmThe Truth Says:
Hey when Edwards had his affair made public and possibly having a baby out of the affair, all you leftists were saying it was none of our business. Why is it when a Republican does it, it is bad. When a Democrat does it, that’s ok. Please explain?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
***
what office did edwards hold at the time?
oh that’s right. none
…
who is the party of “family values”?
i forget…
oh yeah, the republicans.
***
and gov. sanford (a man of faith)
is ALL yours.
:)
enjoy.
:) :)
June 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pmSo can we assume you represent the first wave of republicans relinquishing their “family values” and “pious superiority” in exchange for the “I’d tap that” position?
:)
June 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pmBreaking up is hard to do,
Unless you’re the one got left behind…
June 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pmWe still don’t have the whole story. This liar should step down.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pm…
the sound of a right wing head exploding:
The Truth Says:
Game of Life.
Who cares! The other woman was an Argentine, they are great in bed! I don’t blame him, most American woman are lame in bed. Russians, Italians, Greeks, Spanish are the best!
Sanford is that man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
…
here comes the boom.
:)
June 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pmchiroptera toasterhead,
Who cares! The other woman was an Argentine! He gets respect for that!
Sanford is the man!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pmNever touched a woman. Not an American, not a Russian, not any woman. So actually, I have no frigging idea what I am talking about.
And that’s The Truth.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pmWAYNEBRO,
Sanford is a pimp! He has good taste, I dated several Argentinian Women. They are awesome in bed! American women have nothing on them. Sanford gets a medal for what he did!
He’s a PIMP!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:44 pmHe spent 5 days crying in Argentina. Is that what they call wild sex now?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:44 pmThe Truth Says:
chiroptera toasterhead,
Who cares! The other woman was an Argentine! He gets respect for that!
Sanford is the man!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
_______________
Did you hang out with a lot of Argentines in Cabo, Trajan?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pmCONSERVATIVE VALUES = BULLSHIT!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pmBreaking News:
Sanford is a wh0re! A big fat lying stinking two-faced hypocritical cheating wh0re!
Not that the (R) after his name wasn’t a dead giveaway. Of course he’ll be forgiven because at least he was fcuking a woman. In his presser, he thinks it will take people days, weeks, even months to forgive him. Me thinks his time estimates are as realistic as Donald “could take six day, six week, I doubt it will take six months” Rumsfeld.
What a trainwreck! Buh bye Markie Mark!
PEACE
June 24th, 2009 at 2:46 pmThe followers of corporate evangelicalism are already hard at work, spinning excuses for his louche behavior. The “Christian” vanguard in politics seems to have an awful problem with marital fidelity.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pmjoe cantwell,
June 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pmWho cares about Family values, he’s getting Argentine pussy!
GOP: the ultimate party of self-marginilization.
“Pass the popcorn!”
June 24th, 2009 at 2:49 pm…
i think he forgot to
apologize to his gardener.
:|
…
June 24th, 2009 at 2:49 pmchiroptera toasterhead,
Sorry you have me confused with another poster. I live in Hollywood, FL and there’s alot of Argentines here.
I think you are jealous he was baning an Argentine woman. For this he is a hero!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:52 pmThe Truth Says
June 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Hey when Edwards had his affair made public and possibly having a baby out of the affair, all you leftists were saying it was none of our business. Why is it when a Republican does it, it is bad. When a Democrat does it, that’s ok. Please explain?
___________________________________________________________
That’s actually a fair question and deserves an answer.
The biggest difference between the two men, of course, is that Mark Sanford is a sitting state governor, and John Edwards was a private citizen holding no office at all at the time his sexual activities became known.
The other difference is that Edwards managed to carry out his adultery without vanishing for days and putting valuable state resources on the verge of launching an expensive investigation as to his whereabouts.
I personally don’t approve of adultery. However, I recognize that adultery by itself (considering no other factors) is the business of the adulterer, his wife, his family, the person he cheated with, that person’s family, and his God.
What’s galling about politicians who can’t keep their pants zipped is the lying, the hypocrisy, and doing it on the taxpayers’ dime. Some, like Ensign, are screwing outside the lines at the same time they condemn others who do the same, and trumpet “family values” (in defense of Mark Sanford, he’s never been one for false moral sanctimony, so he gets a pass on the hypocrisy thing). Others use resources not belonging to them to carry out their activities — such as using taxpayer money for trips and hotel rooms, diddling on the job when they should be working, etc. And others just lie through their teeth about where they’ve been for days.
I’m not a fan of what either man did. But the bottom line is that Edwards wasn’t an employee of the people when he did it, and Mark Sanford was.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:53 pmspencers mom,
June 24th, 2009 at 2:53 pmYou American woman have nothing on Argentines. Stop hating on the man for wanting better ass!
Yea?
:|
How much did they charge?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:53 pmHe took the trip to end the affair. Okay, now I don’t have too much experience in this (we’ll leave it at that, m’kay?) but does it really take a full week to end an affair? Or is that a whole lotta farewell sex, perhaps without the farewell?
Ew. But I think I’m gonna like using the expressions “hike the Appalachian Trail” myself!
PEACE
June 24th, 2009 at 2:53 pm,,,
“baning”?
what kind of republican
slang is that?
:)
…
June 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pmHe had an affair. More Family Values. I wonder if the GOPers will give him a standing O like they gave Ensign.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pmThe Truth Says:
Who cares! The other woman was an Argentine! He gets respect for that!
Sanford is the man!
Ah, I see the newer-model trolls are now equipped with ethical/moral goalposts stapled to their asses.
Much more efficient.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pmAnyone who can get sex other than self inflicted is my hero.
That’s The Truth
June 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pmThe Truth Says:
Sanford gets a medal for what he did!
He’s a PIMP!
Yea?
What do his wife and children get?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pm…
on slate,
nothing.
:|
June 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pmWhat a great man, what a great father, what a poster child for Repugnicunts!
Think his four kids will remember this Father’s Day?
June 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pmMost of that apologizing “to her” was not to his wife but to the girlfriend in Argentina. Listen to it again. Apologizing to the wife and girlfriend was an after thought. And I’m sure he’s been boinking the girlfriend for 8 years and just got caught a year ago. Check his passport.
When does Bill Clinton and the taxpayers of this country get an apology from the GOP for the money wasted persecuting Clinton and for all the work he didn’t accomplish (like stopping bin Laden) because of that persecution.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pmspencers mom Says:
He took the trip to end the affair. Okay, now I don’t have too much experience in this (we’ll leave it at that, m’kay?) but does it really take a full week to end an affair? Or is that a whole lotta farewell sex, perhaps without the farewell?
Ew. But I think I’m gonna like using the expressions “hike the Appalachian Trail” myself!
An email would have done the job to end the affair, no?
And I predict that “hike the Appalachian Trail” will soon become an internet sensation!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pmThe Truth Says:
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Game of Life.
Who cares! The other woman was an Argentine, they are great in bed! I don’t blame him, most American woman are lame in bed. Russians, Italians, Greeks, Spanish are the best!
Yeah, American women aren’t so good at faking it. Argentinian are much better at that.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pmWAYNEBRO,
June 24th, 2009 at 2:58 pmWho cares!
…
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
On Fox, Mark Sanford “(D)” holds press conference
June 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
***
“Messe und Balance.”
:=)
June 24th, 2009 at 2:58 pmAnd he might get more than a “medal” out of this.
Did you see him dodging questions by a reporter asking him “did you have your staff lie about your whereabouts”?
Who was the Governor of South Carolina over the past week?
You can bet there’s a few more issues at stake here in addition to another republican moral hypocrite.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:58 pmBUS.
TED.
And on Father’s Day, no less.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pmjoeyramonesmom,
They are not fakers. They love sex and aren’t ashamed to whatever for their men. Stop hating on Argentines.
Sanford is a hero for this!
June 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pmThe Truth? The Truth is you couldn’t get laid in a whore house with a fist full of $100 bills. Not here or in Argentina. But if by some freak accident you did I wouldn’t expect anybody to put themselves out for you. I’m sure the real men here don’t have trouble with American women.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmHi Twajie.
Still stinging over my fellatio joke yesterday?
My bad.
Time does heal all wounds, though.
So stop licking yourself for Crisco sake!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmYou obviously don’t.
Thanks for showing the republican in his true light.
Zero character.
Zero morality.
Zero integrity.
You are a credit to your party.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmI could be wrong, but I don’t know that Sanford really billed himself as a “social conservative” bible-thumping finger wagger. He seemed to be getting more press as an “economic conservative.”
.
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
On Fox, Mark Sanford “(D)” holds press conference
OMG, they’re still playing that game? Wow.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmI don’t blame him, most American woman are lame in bed.
I think of my black girlfriend, and laugh…
You poor little man.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:01 pmI have to admit that I am not monogamous, I am ambidextrous.
And that’s The Truth.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:02 pmPurple State,
Stop the hypocrisy. All these politicians cheat. Sanford choose wisely, he’s a great man for doing this!
I bet his Argentine woman looks better than Monica of that airhead Edwards was with.
At leaset it wasn’t a hooker like Spitzer!
Hey when Spitzer did it witha hooker, you leftists were defending him. Why hate on Sanford, he got exotic pussy!!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:02 pmAs if this “truth” troll ever had sex with a woman, let alone pleased her, that it didn’t have to pay for.
Fcuk off, loser. You don’t know the first thing about women, American, Argentinian or otherwise.
Limp, little poser. But very, very funny! Now grab your box of Pampers and head on home.
PEACE
June 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pmPlace your bets: standing ovation from the South Carolina Republicans for Sanford?
June 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pmObviously, Twajie has never really had an “American woman” in bed.
Nor any other nationality.
Well, without the help of chloroform.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pmHey, did any of you just feel a draft? Cause the wind here in DC just picked up by a good couple of knots.
Must be the collective Republican sigh of relief that Sanford’s “other person” was a lady-friend instead of a boy-friend.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pmbarfly,
I should state: White American women are lame.
Black Women on the other hand, are a freak of nature. I give you props for handling that!
:-)
June 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pmThe Truth Says:
Purple State,
Stop the hypocrisy. All these politicians cheat. Sanford choose wisely, he’s a great man for doing this!
I bet his Argentine woman looks better than Monica of that airhead Edwards was with.
At leaset it wasn’t a hooker like Spitzer!
Hey when Spitzer did it witha hooker, you leftists were defending him. Why hate on Sanford, he got exotic pussy!!!!
Thank you for assuming that I support infidelity. Now assume that I agree with everything you have to say.
Marriage is a contract; if you fail to fulfill your part of the contract, it ought to be void.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:07 pmThe Truth, do you know what sound a satisfied woman makes?
No you wouldn’t would you.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:07 pmSee, you can always tell when someone has never really experienced a sexual encounter, when it continuously refers to the woman who Sanford was having an affair with, as “exotic pussy”.
Wow. Twajie must have the intellect capacity of Flavor Flav!
And that’s slamming Flavor!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:07 pmspencers mom,
I hate to burst your bubble, but down here in Ft. Lauderdale/Miami everyone prefers the foreign women to White American women. That is because the foriegn women have passion.
White American women are out only for money and suck in bed!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:08 pmDRxJ Says:
See, you can always tell when someone has never really experienced a sexual encounter, when it continuously refers to the woman who Sanford was having an affair with, as “exotic pussy”.
Wow. Twajie must have the intellect capacity of Flavor Flav!
And that’s slamming Flavor!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:08 pmTwajie,
A man with any experience would see this as a plus, LOSER.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pmPurple State,
Where you mad when Spitzer did it?
Nope don’t lie.
Doodlebug Shayne,
Yup everynight with my French-Chilean wife!
DRxJ,
June 24th, 2009 at 3:11 pmI have it everynight with my wife, too bad you don’t get any or you get lame White American pussy.
The Truth Says:
spencers mom,
I hate to burst your bubble, but down here in Ft. Lauderdale/Miami everyone prefers the foreign women to White American women. That is because the foriegn women have passion.
White American women are out only for money and suck in bed!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pm==========
Than take your stupid a$$ to Argentina and leave our great American women alone?
So are srbian or bosnian or whatever she was with the bad teeth real good or what? Do you think it polite to discuss such things in such a childish manner?
June 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pmDoodlebug Shayne.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:13 pmI’m the Truth, not Twajie. Please address me and not another poster. Or is it that you can’t handle me and have to resort to pretending I’m someone else. That is a sign of fear of a person.
Wow, after the press conference, it gives a whole new meaning to the thread’s headline:
U.S. embassy had ‘absolutely no idea’ that Sanford was in Argentina.
Assuming Argentina was her name, of course.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pmranus69,
June 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pmI have been to Bueno Aries 3 times. Plus I am happily married to my wife for 4 years. Chileans are just as good as Argentinians.
Well he has admitted to cheating on his wife, no shock there.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:16 pmThe Truth Says:
Doodlebug Shayne.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pmI’m the Truth, not Twajie.
======
Your Twajie and will be addressed as such you “moron.”
Or is it that you can’t handle me
June 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pm—-
Well hello there The Truth… You called?
“U.S. embassy had ‘absolutely no idea’ that Sanford was in Argentina.”
neither did his old lady and kids…
June 24th, 2009 at 3:18 pmThe Truth Says:
ranus69,
June 24th, 2009 at 3:18 pmI have been to Bueno Aries 3 times. Plus I am happily married to my wife for 4 years. Chileans are just as good as Argentinians.
==========
I’m sure Sanford probably stuck it to your wife as well.
The Truth Says:
Purple State,
Where you mad when Spitzer did it?
Nope don’t lie.
YES I WAS.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:19 pmTrajan is a latin queen and has multiple lovers. Or at least he did while he was in prison. Now the poor lonely loser relies on his memories of Bubba and Jergens.
And that’s The Truth.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pm“The Truth” aka Trajan aka whatever is the ultimate in low-rent trolls. Indulging it in “discussions” about its mythical sex life is as useful as teaching roadkill to sing.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmThe Truth Says:
“Purple State,
Where you mad when Spitzer did it?”
did spitzer run on a family values and morality platform?
June 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmSo was I. And Spitzer resigned. As Governor Blagojevich was impeached for his yet to be proven indiscretions. Only Republicans get away with this kind of behavior.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmmissmolly. this is hairsplitting. Edwards was on the campaign trail and would have moved into the white house, if his secret didn’t get out.
Whether he was on the payroll isn’t that relevant. Everyone knows he was intending to be.
I am amazed that people in these positions can’t tow the line, if only for the time they want to serve.
I am also amazed that with all the eyes watching them, they think they can manage a secret relationship. I don’t get that.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pmranus69,
So is everyone who is not a Leftist called twajie around here? I’v been coming here 2 months and have seen threads where 5 diffenet people are called that. Seriously how can one person be behind every poster? Use logic and you will realize not everyone is Twajie.
dbadass,
June 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pmYes you can’t handle me so you call me by another posters name. That is a sign of fear of the unknown.
backup Says:
I am amazed that people in these positions can’t tow the line, if only for the time they want to serve.
It’s “toe the line”, backup. “Tow the line” is something you do with a dinghy.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pmYea?
:D
I’m glad for ya.
:|
How much extra does she charge to let you call her “my wife”?
June 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pmSo far, this is my favorite from Twajie:
White American women are out only for money and suck in bed!
Well, yes, when you have to pay for it, the hotel bed is usually where all the action takes place.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:30 pmWell he got it right then.
After all, this was something Sanford did with his “dinghy”.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pmb-cup Proclaims:
Edwards was on the campaign trail and would have moved into the white house, if his secret didn’t get out.
Forgive me if I’m wrong, and I usually do have a photographic memory for this thing, but didn’t Edwards admission of an affair come after Obama was nominated for the Democratic party?
June 24th, 2009 at 3:32 pmdbadass,
Yes you can’t handle me so you call me by another posters name. That is a sign of fear of the unknown.
—-
June 24th, 2009 at 3:32 pmWhere did I do this thing you speak of?You have already blown it and we haven’t even started…
The Truth Says:
ranus69,
June 24th, 2009 at 3:32 pmSo is everyone who is not a Leftist called twajie around here? I’v been coming here 2 months and have seen threads where 5 diffenet people are called that. Seriously how can one person be behind every poster? Use logic and you will realize not everyone is Twajie.
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If you feel that offended than leave TP. BTW all that “hate” you been spewing here for 2 months you deserve to be called a Twajie.
I don’t judge anybody with an affair. It’s not right, but we’re all imperfect.
But, one issue about this tops my thinking. You live by the sword, you die by the sword.
Conservatives have a reputation for a holier than thou attitude when it comes to morality. It’s obviously b.s.
The good news out of this: We are one step closer to an inevitable Republican capitulation on this idea that they somehow hold some higher moral ground.
What I would prefer much more than Republican politicians chastising Sanford, is an admission there needs to be a re-examination of Republican moral judgmentalism. They’ve obviously got no moral legs to stand on.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:36 pmTwajie, your posts and continuous grammatical errors are what reveal you, every single time.
Your accusations of “Leftists” further identify you.
Your total lack of compassion for the opposite sex doesn’t help your “hidden identity”.
Your admission of being from Miami was just the icing on the cake.
Mucking foron!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:36 pmmarky getting ass is more important than being governor and being a husband.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:37 pmDRxJ. You’re right. I was trying to make the point that Edwards would have taken the public job (President), if he could. While he was having the affair, he was working to get elected.
On that basis, the difference between him and Sanford isn’t that great.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmThe Truth are you still looking? I’ll check back in about 40 minutes okay?
June 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pmDRxJ,
June 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pmAre you scared to address me? Why do you fear me? You are scared becasue you keep addressing me by another poster’s name. This is a sign of fear of the unknown, so you call me by a name you know to reassure yourself.
DRxJ,
June 24th, 2009 at 3:41 pmI’m from Hollywood not Miami. It’s 15 minutes away also there about 5 Million people in this metro area. I guess we are all the same person here. But I get you have to reassure yourself when dealing with the unknown. Therefore you use the known to define the unknown. That is a sign of fear.
This is great.
Twajie is about to self explode, just like last night.
Popcorn, anyone?
June 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pmThe Truth
June 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pmWhat is there to be afraid of? I’ll tell you what you can stop looking becuase you won’t find it. Why not admit the error and when I get back we can talk. K?
gummitch and WAYNEBRO.
Toe the line, tow the line, whatever – you got me.
All I know is that I do not want a line attached to my dinghy.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pmdbadass,
June 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pmSorry I was reffering to DRxJ.
Don’t be afraid The Truth….
June 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pmDRxJ,
Wow so you think I am this Twajie from last night! LOL!
Last night me and my Wife went to this great restaurant, so too bad it wasn’t me. You call everyone Twajie, don’t you?
A sign of fear of the unknown!
June 24th, 2009 at 3:46 pmDRxJ and company,
June 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmI have to run to a meeting with a client up in Boca. Hopefully the real Twajie will appear and annoy you all.
See ya all tommorow!
Again, the personal lives of our leaders shouldn’t be that important.
But, this is an opportunity to contrast those leaders caught in relationship scandals with President Obama.
Assuming that the perception of his marriage and family life are accurate, his conduct is admirable.
I’m sure the President would have ample opportunity to pursue temptations.
But, he has given no indication that he does (or ever has). To the contrary, he seems to have a very positive relationship with his wife and kids.
It shouldn’t be that important, but it would be hard to argue that behavior, used as role model, isn’t good for America.
June 24th, 2009 at 3:57 pmAnd yet, none of them told you they prefer to be called Argentines.
June 24th, 2009 at 4:00 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
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The Truth Says:
Sanford gets a medal for what he did!
He’s a PIMP!
Yea?
What do his wife and children get?
WAYNEBRO, this!
Grounds for Fault based divorce:
(1) adultery
(2) alcoholism and/or drug addiction
(3) physical cruelty
(4) willful desertion for 1 year
and probably most of his money, house, cars
June 24th, 2009 at 4:01 pmGee, ya THINK?
June 24th, 2009 at 4:33 pmSort of odd that The Truth had to run along and just when I so wanted to talk with them…
June 24th, 2009 at 4:47 pmSanford “N” Staff, Any mercy for this brutzing bully or any other GOP family values pervert, I’m fresh out. And after what he said about President Clinton, he should be discredited and abandoned like the hypocrite he truely is.
June 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pmThank you..
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