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ThinkFast: June 24, 2009

By Think Progress on Jun 24th, 2009 at 9:00 am

ThinkFast: June 24, 2009


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The White House may be indicating to Senate allies that it is open to dropping the public plan option as part of a health reform deal. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), who has been pushing a proposal to replace the public plan with regional cooperatives, said chief of staff Rahm Emanuel indicated Obama is “open to alternatives.”

Vice President Cheney has “signed a book deal with a conservative imprint of Simon & Schuster” and will reportedly receive at least $2 million in the arrangement. Cheney’s book is expected to come out in spring 2011, a few months after President Bush’s memoir. He said that he has no plans to write “a screed” against liberals.

“An airstrike believed to have been carried out by a United States drone killed at least 60 people at a funeral for a Taliban fighter in South Waziristan on Tuesday, residents of the area and local news reports said.” If the details of the attack, which remain sketchy, are verified, “the strike could be the deadliest since the United States began using the aircraft to fire remotely guided missiles” at the tribal areas of Pakistan.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) called yesterday for President Obama “to come up with a comprehensive immigration plan this year, saying a directive from the White House is the only way to push the complex issue forward.” “What we need is not another photo op at the White House. What we need now is a plan from the president,” said Cornyn, adding that “the president doesn’t write legislation, but he does have the bully pulpit.”

Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said yesterday that “‘neither the system nor the people will submit to bullying‘ over the results of the disputed presidential election, which he has given a powerful supervisory body an additional five days to review.” “Everyone should respect the law. … We will not step an inch beyond the law: our law, our country’s law, the Islamic Republic’s law,” Khamenei said.

Working to “rehabilitate U.S. relations with the Islamic world and the Arab Middle East,” President Obama “has decided to return a U.S. ambassador to Syria after a four-year hiatus as talks between the two nations intensify.” “It’s in our interests to have an ambassador in Syria,” a senior administration official said.

Wendell Potter, a former health insurance executive who worked in the industry for more than 20 years, is scheduled to testify this afternoon before the Senate. “Potter is expected to speak critically of insurance company practices and provide insight on why consumers often come away feeling confused after dealing with insurance companies.”

MoveOn.org is urging its sizable membership to hound Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). The group is “criticizing her for cautionary remarks she made on CNN on Sunday about overhauling the health care system.” The group’s e-mail, which also carries a plea for donations to put up ads against her, says, “Her statement is a big deal: Political momentum could make or break health care reform this year.”

White House lawyers “are quietly drafting first-of-their kind guidelines barring workplace discrimination against transgender federal employees.” The guidelines, which “will be in an updated federal handbook for managers and supervisors to be distributed and posted online in the next couple of months,” will list transgender people as among several groups protected by antidiscrimination laws.

And finally: Approximately 600 extras gathered on Tybee Island, GA, on Monday to film the upcoming Miley Cyrus movie, “The Last Song.” One of those fans was Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), who brought along his family. Receiving $8 an hour, Kingston and the others tried to portray “typical beach-goers.” “I took with me a whole bunch of Congressional reading, and at one point a wave washed up on the beach and soaked and ruined all my papers,” Kingston said. “Which was a good thing. It’s one way to process it.”

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69 Responses to “ThinkFast: June 24, 2009”

  1. MCMetal says:

    Mark Sanford told a local South Carolina newspaper that he was in ARGENTINA …………

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


  2. DRxJ says:

    YADDA YADDA YADDA.
    All of the above are insignificant and irrelevant.
    WHAT ABOUT HEALTH CARE?

    HEALTH CARE!

    RED MEAT!

    HEALTH CARE!

    /snark.

    Add me to the list of JUST STFU, you AJo!


  3. Zimzone says:

    The White House may be indicating to Senate allies that it is open to dropping the public plan option as part of a health reform deal.

    WTF?

    President Obama clearly stated just the opposite yesterday. He said something like ‘competition would be good for the insurance industry’.

    We need to hammer our Congresscritters on single payer. Public option is a cloudy, undefined idea. Single payer is the only fair way to go.

    Americans have been getting screwed by insurers for years. It’s time to take corporate out of health care. This is the moment, folks.

    Make your voice heard or continue to be pawns of corporate interests.


  4. RantingTommy says:

    So Sanford lied

    Makes him a good Republican

    PS – congrats to the regs that gave Another Joe the spanking he deserved last night. I was in the studio and missed out on the fun.


  5. Keith H. says:

    The White House may be indicating to Senate allies that it is open to dropping the public plan option as part of a health reform deal.

    Plus:

    Vice President Cheney has “signed a book deal with a conservative imprint of Simon & Schuster” and will reportedly receive at least $2 million in the arrangement.

    Equals:

    Enough said about this fine country.


  6. Pachydiplax de St. Augustine says:

    DRxJ: Done…

    1) dbadass
    2) tony and lido
    3) Reggie
    4) ralph
    5) angels81
    6) joe cantwell
    7) Shadowboxer
    8) pastcaring
    9) shayne
    10) gummitch
    11) StratRat
    12) vinylspear
    13) toasterhead
    14) RUC
    15) Game of Life
    16) Gregor Samsa
    17) Pachydiplax de St. Augustine
    18) Buckie Boy
    19) Zooey
    20) wiley
    21) hormiga brava chavez
    22) Dr. Matt
    23) Pete
    24) livelongandprosper
    25) Jane E. Schneider
    26) AmericasBack
    27) Leftside Annie
    28) Jim Wolf359
    29) Bobwurst
    30) OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts
    31) ranus69
    32) Wayne A. Schneider
    33) spencers mom
    34) DRxJ


  7. RantingTommy says:

    1) dbadass
    2) tony and lido
    3) Reggie
    4) ralph
    5) angels81
    6) joe cantwell
    7) Shadowboxer
    8) pastcaring
    9) shayne
    10) gummitch
    11) StratRat
    12)vinylspear
    13) toasterhead
    14) RUC
    15) Game of Life
    16) Gregor Samsa
    17) Pachydiplax de St. Augustine
    18) Buckie Boy
    19) Zooey
    20) wiley
    21) hormiga brava chavez
    22) Dr. Matt
    23) Pete
    24) livelongandprosper
    25) Jane E. Schneider
    26) AmericasBack
    27) Leftside Annie
    28) Jim Wolf359
    29) Bobwurst
    30) OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts
    31) ranus69
    32) Wayne A. Schneider
    33) spencers mom
    34) RantingTommy

    I’m 34!


  8. RantingTommy says:

    1) dbadass
    2) tony and lido
    3) Reggie
    4) ralph
    5) angels81
    6) joe cantwell
    7) Shadowboxer
    8) pastcaring
    9) shayne
    10) gummitch
    11) StratRat
    12)vinylspear
    13) toasterhead
    14) RUC
    15) Game of Life
    16) Gregor Samsa
    17) Pachydiplax de St. Augustine
    18) Buckie Boy
    19) Zooey
    20) wiley
    21) hormiga brava chavez
    22) Dr. Matt
    23) Pete
    24) livelongandprosper
    25) Jane E. Schneider
    26) AmericasBack
    27) Leftside Annie
    28) Jim Wolf359
    29) Bobwurst
    30) OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts
    31) ranus69
    32) Wayne A. Schneider
    33) spencers mom
    34) RantingTommy
    35) DrxJ


  9. Zimzone says:

    Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
    Sanford met in Atlanta after returning from South America
    Gov. Mark Sanford arrived in the Hartsville-Jackson International Airport this morning, having wrapped up a seven-day visit to Buenos Aires, Argentina, he said. Sanford said he had not been hiking along the Appalachian Trail, as his staff said in a Tuesday statement to the media.

    Dr. Matt, Is it possible Sanford is Daryll? (Buenos Aires, the beach, golden male prostitutes.)

    Hmmmm…


  10. IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

    He said that he has no plans to write “a screed” against liberals.

    He has no plans on writing the truth either.


  11. Zimzone says:

    Please add me to the STFU list for AJo.

    Troll central sent a really stinky one this time.


  12. IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

    1) dbadass
    2) tony and lido
    3) Reggie
    4) ralph
    5) angels81
    6) joe cantwell
    7) Shadowboxer
    8) pastcaring
    9) shayne
    10) gummitch
    11) StratRat
    12)vinylspear
    13) toasterhead
    14) RUC
    15) Game of Life
    16) Gregor Samsa
    17) Pachydiplax de St. Augustine
    18) Buckie Boy
    19) Zooey
    20) wiley
    21) hormiga brava chavez
    22) Dr. Matt
    23) Pete
    24) livelongandprosper
    25) Jane E. Schneider
    26) AmericasBack
    27) Leftside Annie
    28) Jim Wolf359
    29) Bobwurst
    30) OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts
    31) ranus69
    32) Wayne A. Schneider
    33) spencers mom
    34) RantingTommy
    35) IgnoranceIsNotBliss


  13. MCMetal says:

    And finally: Approximately 600 extras gathered on Tybee Island, GA, on Monday to film the upcoming Miley Cyrus movie, “The Last Song.” One of those fans was Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), who brought along his family.

    What is with these GOP slugs being so enamored with little girls of questionable talent ?


  14. spencers mom says:

    COLUMBIA, S.C. – South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford was in South America during a dayslong unexplained absence, not hiking the Appalachian Trail as his staff told the public when state leaders raised questions about his whereabouts, the governor told a newspaper.

    The State reported that Sanford arrived Wednesday morning at Atlanta’s Hartsville-Jackson International Airport on a flight from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

    Sanford’s spokesman Joel Sawyer declined to comment Wednesday morning to The Associated Press

    The Republican told the South Carolina newspaper he decided at the last minute to go to the South American country. The governor says he had considered hiking on the Appalachian Trail but wanted to do something “exotic.”

    Sanford said he was alone on the trip. He declined to give any additional details about what he did other than to say he drove along the coastline.

    Right. Decided he wanted to hike somewhere “exotic”, was alone on the trip.

    Right. Didn’t tell his wife, staff or the Lieutenant Gov he was off on a spur of the moment junket.

    Right. Blew off Father’s Day with no communication to the rest of his Family Values Klan.

    Right. Can’t wait for the details to seep out! This one’s gonna be good! Popcorn anyone?

    PEACE


  15. Pachydiplax de St. Augustine says:

    RantingTommy:

    Correction noted and made.

    I will post my own ignore statement when necessary in response to ignorant trolls.

    (Troll name) is on your ignore list.


  16. Zimzone says:

    MCMetal Says:
    What is with these GOP slugs being so enamored with little girls of questionable talent ?

    The same reason they prefer men & women of questionable talent, intellect, class and honesty?


  17. Pachydiplax de St. Augustine says:

    IgnoranceIsNotBliss

    Is # 36 okay with you?

    1) dbadass
    2) tony and lido
    3) Reggie
    4) ralph
    5) angels81
    6) joe cantwell
    7) Shadowboxer
    8) pastcaring
    9) shayne
    10) gummitch
    11) StratRat
    12) vinylspear
    13) toasterhead
    14) RUC
    15) Game of Life
    16) Gregor Samsa
    17) Pachydiplax de St. Augustine
    18) Buckie Boy
    19) Zooey
    20) wiley
    21) hormiga brava chavez
    22) Dr. Matt
    23) Pete
    24) livelongandprosper
    25) Jane E. Schneider
    26) AmericasBack
    27) Leftside Annie
    28) Jim Wolf359
    29) Bobwurst
    30) OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts
    31) ranus69
    32) Wayne A. Schneider
    33) spencers mom
    34) RantingTommy
    35) DrxJ
    36) IgnoranceIsNotBliss


  18. dbadass says:

    I am hoping the point has been made. If not I respectfully suggest selective repostings of the list so as to not tie up too much space
    thnks-


  19. spencers mom says:

    More questions about Sanford:

    1) Didn’t the Dept. of Homeland Security have a record of his passport being used? One would think a manhunt, albeit on the QT, would have begun after a major political figure “diappeared”. You know, post 9/11 mentality and all…

    2) Sir Sanford supposedly had his cell phone with him, supposedly called his staff at some point, for what? To perpetuate the lie? Again, DHS couldn’t track him using GPS technology to locate his cell phone?

    3) Reports yesterday that he was spotted boarding a plane in Atlanta. Boarding a plane to where? He couldn’t have been traced after being spotted boarding a plane???

    Oh, there are so many unanswered questions but one thing is absolutely certain: Sanford will not be re-elected nor does he have future in national politics. Another rising star fizzles out.

    Good riddance to bad trash.

    PEACE


  20. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

  21. Zimzone says:

  22. RantingTommy says:

    Another Joe says: what does your silly list have to do with my pet issue?


  23. Bobwurst says:

    Cheney’s book is expected to come out in spring 2011, a few months after President Bush’s memoir. He said that he has no plans to write “a screed” against liberals.

    Translation: it will be a screed against liberals.


  24. CageyCretin says:

    MCMetal Says:
    What is with these GOP slugs being so enamored with little girls of questionable talent ?

    Little girls, little boys: all the same to the GOP (they call them “party time”).

    Why do you think Sanford was in Argentina? Come on. He probably got some reccomended sites to visit from Limbaugh — you know, where the children are cheap.


  25. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    dropping the public plan option as part of a health reform deal

    NO! Put the option out there and make Congress members put their support or lack of on record.

    Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) called yesterday for President Obama “to come up with a comprehensive immigration plan this year,

    YOU, Mr. Cornyn, are a legislator and a representative of a border state. If you are so interested in there being a comprehensive plan to legislate, you write it and push it. If you don’t, I, for one, am going to think you are just trying to be a thorn in President Obama’s side rather than really interested in fixing anything.


  26. Zimzone says:

    Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said yesterday that “‘neither the system nor the people will submit to bullying‘ over the results of the disputed presidential election.

    Shades of 2000!
    This sounds remarkably similar to what we had to listen to after the SCOTUS ruling on Bush / Gore.

    Supreme leaders, Supreme Court, religious extremism, unquestionable patriotism; it’s all the same crap.

    Are Republicans actually secret Muslims? Shia, perhaps?


  27. CageyCretin says:

    39) CageyCretin

    Red meat. Backwash. Slogan is policy. You’re not true liberals. Quit picking on the repugnicans. You have no facts. Important issues of the day.

    You know, he logged comment #1 of yesterday at 9:29 TP time, and the last at 10:10 pm… and was persistently present all day.

    Lot of energy for a site he hates.


  28. tom says:

    He (Darth Cheney) said that he has no plans to write “a screed” against liberals.

    In other words, it’s going to be a short book with lots of pictures . . . kind of like “The Pet Goat”. Perfect bedtime reading for GDumbya.


  29. IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

    Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    IgnoranceIsNotBliss

    Is # 36 okay with you?

    Yep.


  30. Wayne says:

    Add me to that list and I am going to flag Another Troll-Joe every time it posts. Its constant whining is tiresome.


  31. CageyCretin says:

    He (Cheney) said that he has no plans to write “a screed” against liberals.

    Well, that may be accurate: he will not specifically attack liberal people in general, just specific ones he really does not like. He will mainly have a screed against “liberal ideology”, which is COMPLETELY different from a “screed against liberals”. See the difference? Me neither.


  32. spencers mom says:

    Okay, please please forgive me for not taking off my National Enquirer hat this morning, but this from Bill in Portland over at DailyKos:

    [IMPORTANT UPDATE: Don't be fooled, people! The Governor Mark Sanford who just returned from Argentina is the cyborg!!!]

    And how did we find out that the Gov was off in Argentina? Because a reporter got a tip and met his plane in Atlanta’s airport! I wonder what story he and his staff were actually cooking up?

    So he was “hiking” in Buenos Aires. Um, isn’t that kind of a Nazi thing to do?

    I find this story so hilariously funny, I can’t help myself! Again, apologies all around!

    PEACE


  33. spencers mom says:

    33) spencers mom
    34) RantingTommy
    35) DrxJ
    36) IgnoranceIsNotBliss
    37) PLC
    38) Zimzone
    39) CageyCretin

    Do I hear 40?

    PEACE


  34. gummble-bee-itch says:

    Interesting timeline about the wandering governor, including an explanation about gps . . .


  35. A Patriotic Anopheles Acting says:

    41) A Patriotic Anopheles Acting


  36. Chyron HR says:

    spencers mom Says:

    So he was “hiking” in Buenos Aires. Um, isn’t that kind of a Nazi thing to do?

    That’s totally unfair. Sanford could just be a follower of Peronism.


  37. Zimzone says:

    Mark Sanford, the 21st Century Moses, went looking for the Republican Party.

    He knew Boss Hog Limblahblah liked the boys in Argentina, so he walked the beach for days, looking for a sign, or at least a good looking boy.

    He carried nary a watch or cellphone, determined to find Truth for his party.

    After walking alone in that wild sand that borders Earth & Ocean, he at last found his party. ‘Thank you, God’, he thought to himself as he saw light ahead on the dark beach.

    Yes, the Governor finally found his party. It was a good party, too. Lots of merriment & ale, even some Mad Dog 20 20.
    Verily, he consumed much drink and partied hardy with the local natives. Now his mind was clear. He would return to the swamps of South Carolina with a strong message to the unbelievers…

    STFU, & leave me alone!



  38. Witch1 says:

    Would some one be so kind and add my name to the list….Thank you…P.B. & J


  39. Another Joe says:

    Obama may be open to selling us out?

    We want the public option! Add your name to this TV ad at http://WeWantThePublicOption.com. We’ll air this in Washington DC on CNN, MSNBC, and other places where senators and staffers will pay attention.


  40. CageyCretin says:

    By the looks of things, someone does not seem to be very welcome hee. Not to name names or anything, but their initials are “Another Joe”.

    I think that it is fairly accurate to say that we would like “Another Joe” to go the way of Joe the Plumberjournalistpunditwannabe — back to your tailer and silent obscurity.

    Emphasis on “silent”.


  41. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    We made a list
    We checked it twice
    We all know
    Who is naughty or nice
    Ignore when it comes to post
    Ignore when it comes to post
    Ignore when it..comes..to post


  42. katy says:

    Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), who has been pushing a proposal to replace the public plan with regional cooperatives …

    MoveOn.org is urging its sizable membership to hound Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA).

    sounds like MoveOn needs to direct some hounding conrad’s way…

    seriously…


  43. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    The White House may be indicating to Senate allies that it is open to dropping the public plan option as part of a health reform deal. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), who has been pushing a proposal to replace the public plan with regional cooperatives, said chief of staff Rahm Emanuel indicated Obama is “open to alternatives.”

    GeebutZ. Blue Dog Democrats killing the public plan option.
    Slam the damn door on this ‘alternative’. Let the blue dogs go to the next election with the scuttling of health care reform millstoned around their necks.


  44. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    33) spencers mom
    34) RantingTommy
    35) DrxJ
    36) IgnoranceIsNotBliss
    37) PLC
    38) Zimzone
    39) CageyCretin
    40) Witch1 !!!


  45. katy says:

    fer chrissakes… what a waste of bandwidth… not to mention brain cells…

    go ahead a feed the f’n troolls if that’s what it takes to get your nut…

    it’s a freekin’ anonymous blind asz blog… who seriously thinks they can control anyone here… use the flag…

    get fookin real… you are embarrassing yourselves… again.


  46. katy says:

    TP should be a top class blog… the commenters should read smart.

    this is too much like grade school… grow the fook up.


  47. Another Joe says:

    What if we ran the fire department like we run the health care system?

    At HAARM, they do.


  48. Witch1 says:

    Thank you, RUCerious…..Blessings


  49. Another Joe says:

    “I don’t know that he has the votes right now,” California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein said of President Obama. “Health-care reform is on life support,” warned Tennessee Democratic Rep. Jim Cooper.

    Looks like just ANOTHER example that obama really stands for “NO WE CAN’T”

    If this happens, it is going to have serious repercussions because even he admits the stimulus package isn’t helping “main street”.

    If you want the President to succeed, need to advocate for meaningful change.

    if you want to see him fail – blog 24/7 about backwash and ignore the hypocrisy of the dems.


  50. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    katy, your two posts read more childish than what you are tantruming about.


  51. katy says:

    ya think, plc???

    that was no tantrum. that was disgust.

    i am embarrassed for faiz & co.

    all that hard work, and all they have to show for it in the comments section is na-na-na-boo-boo.

    if you kids can’t ignore it, or flag it, just STFU.


  52. Mr.Bungle says:

    “The White House may be indicating to Senate allies that it is open to dropping the public plan option as part of a health reform deal. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND), who has been pushing a proposal to replace the public plan with regional cooperatives, said chief of staff Rahm Emanuel indicated Obama is “open to alternatives.””

    Senator Conrad, aren’t so-op’s socialist? How would Republicans ever vote for that?

    We don’t need Republicans, and we certainly don’t need Democrats who can’t support a public option. Time to let your Senators and Reps know that you will be supporting all primary challengers of those Senators that helped kill meaningful health care reform. This co-op idea will fail to halt the cost increases and will still leave millions without coverage, the Dems will take the blame, and Republicans will be back in business.

    Mr. President, if you can’t get this done, you will see you approval drop by at least ten points, and will never get back 50% again. Guaranteed!


  53. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    katy, flagging leaves the decision making and control to TP. I see the list as a committment to control ourselves and to ignore, at least that’s why I added my name. Finally, how is your disgust and demand to us to “just STFU” more adult-like?


  54. dbadass says:

    flagging went on for days. Nothing was done. The community sent a message. I don’t think anyone rejoices in dealing with these problems but none the less it happens. As always I would remind everyone that individuals can read around that which interests them not…


  55. stateofthedivision says:

    The White House shifted language in regard to health care reform. They called a public option a “not for profit alternative.” The blue team craters for their for-profit health care sponsors.


  56. katy says:

    actually, plc, according to an email from faiz, during another earlier round of troll infestation – MUCH worse that this one, i might add – “flagging leaves the decision making and control to” the COMMENTERS.

    he even lowered the number of flags it takes to oust the pest.

    but, whatever… i’m out of this hassle… have at it.


  57. vinylspear says:

    The watchdog is a typical “red zone” case.
    It is important to understand that red-zone dogs are usually frustrated, disassociated dogs with a lot of pent up energy.
    They are unsure of their status in the pack because they lack a true pack leader or they lack pack structure completely.
    The lack of rules, boundaries, and limitations create frustration and unstable energy within the dog.
    As a result, the dog feels that it is his role to be pack leader and manifests its excess energy through aggression and dominance or simply posting gibberish. Remember, in order to talk to the mind of the dog you need to remove the energy from the body in the form of a constructive activity such as critical thing and meaningful, intelligent debate. This allows you to be the dominant animal. Calm, assertive leadership means watchdog doesn’t need to fill that unnatural role and can return to a balanced submissive role.


  58. upright left says:

    ______
    PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    katy, flagging leaves the decision making and control to TP. I see the list as a committment to control ourselves and to ignore, at least that’s why I added my name. Finally, how is your disgust and demand to us to “just STFU” more adult-like?

    June 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am
    ______

    Her point appears to be that she is disgusted that regulars repeatedly claim to “ignore the troll,” “fnf” etc. Yet, seldom does a thread go by that it actually happens. This current list is just the latest incarnation, which of course means nothing:

    RantingTommy Says:

    Another Joe says: what does your silly list have to do with my pet issue?

    June 24th, 2009 at 9:27 am

    If the target of the supposed “fnf” doesn’t post in the first 20 or so comments, someone (see above) usually wonders where the target is. Target shows up, a few posts are made “about not to” the target, and before you know it everything is back to the usual. Surely you have seen this more than once. ;)


  59. linkwray says:

    Obama is being bullied in the same way Clinton was in his first term. A few Senators who’ve run and won by lying to their constiuents are doing the same thing to the progressives, with the help of MSM, of course. Diane Feinstein is the black widow of progressives and she is the female version of Lieberman. Any Sen. who doesn’t support a public option and carries the (D) next to their name is a shill and a lackey whore for the Medical/Industrial Complex. If Obama doesn’t get health care done right all the rest of his agenda won’t matter because he’ll go the way of Carter in 1980 where a third party option(Anderson) allowed the right to gain power. This is probably what the DLC wants to happen because this will allow the Corporate Dems to recapture the party and the money. The Dems need a litmus test and then a purge of these party officials now before it doesn’t matter in Oct. 2010 when the polls show we’re losing on the economy and governing ability. Winning the public option is our game-changer, pure and simple, and without it we’re toast.


  60. misscoleopteramolly says:

    I have gone through the back threads and have consolidated The List. I believe this is comprehensive — and I put it in date/time order. The timestamp references the first instance I saw of A) somebody requesting to be on the list (or putting themselves on it, B) somebody naming another poster to the list, based on personal witnessing of that poster telling Another Joe to STFU (or equivalent reaming), or C) any poster actually telling Another Joe to STFU.

    Here’s the list:

    1) dbadass (6/23/09 5:02pm)
    2) tony and lido (6/23/09 5:04pm)
    3) Reggie (6/23/09 5:07pm)
    4) Ralph (6/23/09 5:11pm)
    5) angels81 (6/23/09 5:12pm)
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    26) Dr. Matt (6/23/09 7:42pm)
    27) Jane E. Schneider (6/23/09 8:57pm)
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    30) livelongandprosper (6/23/09 9:19pm)
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    32) missmolly (6/24/09 7:22am)
    33) DRxJ (6/24/09 9:02am)
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    36) Jim Wolf359 (6/24/09 9:09am)
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    I tried to be thorough — my apologies if I missed anyone.

    I believe I speak for everyone on this list when I say to Joe:

    We get it that your favorite issue is health care and that you find many of the other threads on this site to be frivolous and not newsworthy. You repeat yourself ad nauseum on this, as if you think saying the same thing over and over and over again will cause us all to collectively smack our foreheads and say, “Wow, we’ve seen the light — Another Joe is absolutely right! We should talk about health care 24/7 and ignore all other issues because we must not spend any time at all on anything he finds trivial!”

    Instead, you have become tiresome. If you really want to provide some feedback to the TP staff on how to run their site, please send them an e-mail and quit annoying the rest of us (there’s a helpful “contact us” button on this page you may use for this purpose). If that doesn’t work, just ignore the threads you have no interest in. That’s what the rest of us do. Or, you can ignore this site altogether. While we’ll miss your occasional thoughtful post, we think that’s a good trade for not having to wade through your endless crap about “backwash”.

    So, post thoughtfully on those issues you care about, or…

    …STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  61. BearCountry says:

    I bothered to read this far into the thread. It was hard, but I wanted to make sure that I was correct when I put in my $0.02. obama and the dims are getting ready to cave again and spin it as a great victory for “health care.” It will, in fact, be abject defeat by a group of whores for the insurance companies. This is important to discuss; a few did. Most of you allowed the trolls to hijack the thread and you wasted all of your time and energy attempting to convert or shame someone or ones who were perfectly happy to have you do that. Why even read them and respond? Also, many spent time snarking about sanford of SC; another waste of time. This blog is getting to be worthless to read.


  62. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    I’m sorry, Master Bear. I promise to try better in the future to waste my time only in the way you want me to. I will try not to be so worthless to you in what I write.


  63. DRxJ says:

    BareCountry Says:
    Why even read them and respond?

    Oh, I don’t know. I guess it’s human nature to respond to an attack where one doesn’t respect the leader of our country, and calls us stupid and not bright.
    You know, kinda what you posted.

    obama and the dims are getting ready to cave again and spin it as a great victory for “health care.”

    Here. Take your 2 cents back.
    Maybe play again later.


  64. stateofthedivision says:

    Bear is spot on. This site used to be a good source of news and discussion. It has a severe troll obsession, when an ignore option would be more functional.

    Here’s the lingo Obama and his White House spokespeople used yesterday. Did you not catch it on the Ed Show?

    President Obama called for a “public option that’s not profit driven.”

    Linda Douglas, Communications Director for the Office of Health Care Reform spoke on MSNBC. Linda said “if you have a not for-profit alternative.

    Those are shifts worth noting from a progressive standpoint. Big Ed Shultz let them fly on by.


  65. piltdown says:

    “Those are shifts worth noting from a progressive standpoint. Big Ed Shultz let them fly on by.”

    That’s why I won’t watch Ed. He’s not a Progressive, he’s a moderate Republican.

    “The White House may be indicating to Senate allies that it is open to dropping the public plan option as part of a health reform deal.”

    Then I guess they’re dropping the expectations of a MAJORITY of their constituents in favor of their corporate donors.

    Stop support for a public option, and I stop supporting the administration and party. Not like the public matters, the HMO’s “donation” checks will be much larger than you or I could offer.

    And this is America. Money talks.

    We’ve been sold out. Again.


  66. RealityCheck says:

    New York Times Poll Showing 72% Support for Obama’s Health Care Plan Was Stacked With Obama Supporters link

    Just so all the idiots who have been throwing out the bogus figure that 72% of America wants B.O.’s Obamanation Health Care…I thought you would like to read how your boy skewed the results for the poll he has been rapping about since Saturday!

    Of course the rest of us were not fool for one minute…only you democRATs. This is propaganda and it is only going to get worse. We will be vigilant though…us conservatives and Fox!


  67. RealityCheck says:

    stateofthedivision Says:

    Bear is spot on. This site used to be a good source of news and discussion. It has a severe troll obsession, when an ignore option would be more functional.

    Yea…God forgive you might have to get a different perspective then the total left leaning BS you believe in.


  68. stateofthedivision says:

    As for for-profit health insurers and their franchise that needs to be maintained:

    Senate Report Finds Insurers Wrongfully Charged Consumers Billions

    Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released today by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html?hpid=topnews



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